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Speaker 1: This is a podcast called twenty five whist Stalking Parts,

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Speaker 1: and they were a whizz So yeah, it's too bad,

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Speaker 1: But what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty

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Speaker 1: five Whistles twenty Wine.

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Speaker 2: We've had some awesome guests sit down with us on

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Speaker 2: the podcast this year, so I want to look back

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Speaker 2: at some of our favorite interviews that maybe you missed.

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Speaker 2: First up, head coach of the number four seed in

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Speaker 2: this year's college football playoff, Joy McGuire from Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: Text twelve and one on the year they won the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve. Coach McGuire's put his name up there with

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Speaker 2: the best up and coming coaches in the country. He

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Speaker 2: just signed a new seven year contract extension with Tech,

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Speaker 2: so B congrats to him, and man, they're awesome here

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Speaker 2: he is Coach Joey McGuire. Let us welcome one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite coaches. He's now the hunter. The hunted has

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Speaker 2: turned into the hunter. Coach McGuire, let's up.

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Speaker 3: And what's up?

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Speaker 4: Brother?

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Speaker 3: So good to see you and be on your show.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man, where on the priority list is it for you

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Speaker 2: to make sure you guys have maybe an advantage or

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Speaker 2: are just ready to take a shot at the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It's high.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talk about it all the time. You know,

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Speaker 3: Number one, you're coming here to get a great education,

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Speaker 3: and one B, you're preparing yourself could be a pro.

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Speaker 3: Now we talk about being a pro like being a

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Speaker 3: great dad, being a great husband. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're a pro at what you do. But these guys

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Speaker 3: that we have on this team, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: them that have the ability and athletic and mindset to

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Speaker 3: be in the NFL. So we want to make sure

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Speaker 3: we're preparing them for that. You walk into our team meetings,

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Speaker 3: everybody's going to have a notebook, everybody's taking notes, everybody's

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Speaker 3: locked in. Teach them how to watch film, watch an

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Speaker 3: extra film. One of my big deals that I talk about,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, every single day, it's taking care of your body.

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Speaker 3: Because you and I both know there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: because they can stay healthy. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: So we we spend a lot of time with that.

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Speaker 2: Are you all football all the time, even when it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I meat up with it, you know, especially college football.

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Speaker 3: I love watching It's just a pageantry and and you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll watch a little bit of pros pro wise, I'm

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Speaker 3: we have it in the background while I'm watching Feeling.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't have a lot of hobbies. You know,

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Speaker 2: Is it different every year what the players do as leaders?

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Speaker 2: You have some years where you just trust your captains

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Speaker 2: who the captains are every year?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent? You know, we we've got a really

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Speaker 4: But one thing that we did.

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Speaker 3: There were some really strong alpha males that came in

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Speaker 3: Skylar Gil Howard has been huge for us. And so

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Speaker 3: this is a player led team. You know, I can

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Speaker 2: Next up is the runner up in this just Heisman

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Speaker 2: Trophy race. Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia. Diego became Bandy's first

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Speaker 2: ever Heisman finalist, led Vanderbilt to their first ten win

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Bobby, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: We were talking to coach Lee last year and he

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Speaker 2: was talking about, you know, it's hard to get into Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and to recruit players, it's got to be

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Speaker 2: It sounds like juniors and seniors can't transfer in. You

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Speaker 5: I mean I was taking twenty one credits. I was

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Speaker 2: Whenever I tried to do like online when I got

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Speaker 2: terrible at taking like Driver's Head online. Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I took online classes, I would

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Speaker 5: We should have just typed it into chagbt what we

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Speaker 2: What's Vandy like to go to class? I'm assuming you're

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you meet a lot of interesting kids at class.

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Speaker 5: And but I really like the students at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Can you go online classes now?

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Speaker 5: So I have an all online major right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So I'm really bought into football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah did they make sure do most guys do that?

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Speaker 5: No? Actually, not from Vanderbilt. We got a lot of

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Speaker 5: smart kids on our roster. That's what makes that's what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, why did you choose Vanderbilt? Well?

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Speaker 5: I chose it because at New Mexico State are my

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Speaker 5: And then once coach kill really went to Vanderbilt That's

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Speaker 2: Whenever you come over or you're thinking about coming over,

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Speaker 2: are they like, hey, diego, there's a good shot you

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Speaker 2: and go not really knowing I guess, not knowing how

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Speaker 5: Well, there was a quarterback battle going in. I kind

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Speaker 5: there wasn't going to be no favoritism or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: And all I asked for going in is because I

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Speaker 5: if you promised me that it's a fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: So you didn't even ask for the guarantee to start.

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Speaker 2: You just wanted a fair shot to win the job.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted a fair shot to win the job.

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Speaker 2: What was the scheme difference? Offensively from New Mexico to here?

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Speaker 2: Same thing Because the coaches came there, a lot of

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Speaker 5: There was a little bit of a twist because of

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Speaker 5: it wasn't too much learning that I had to do.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel that when you came in you were

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Speaker 5: I would say I was probably ahead, just because I

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Speaker 2: So you knew what he was saying, Yeah, what you

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Speaker 5: And I was in the So I like practice. I

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Speaker 5: I'd go through my reads and I'd throw the I'd

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Speaker 2: So it's like being on the on deck circle and

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Speaker 2: What are you like in the huddle?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm a I'm real serious in the huddle, Like

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Speaker 5: once it's business, Once that clock starts, it's all business

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Speaker 5: and just tell him, hey, you got it.

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Speaker 2: Why do your guys believe in you?

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Speaker 5: I think they just see that. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 5: to win more than anything else in life. Like this

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Speaker 5: is all I know. All I know is football. Without football,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I would do.

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Speaker 2: Do you like before game to be extremely hype or

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Speaker 2: because we've had other guys come in like ma fighters,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to be hyped. They want to have

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Speaker 2: good adrenaline, but they don't want to be hyped because

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Speaker 2: then they don't react and think the same. They want

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Speaker 2: to be as calm as possible. Where are you before

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm hyped. I'm jumping up and down. I'm ready

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Speaker 5: to go, you know. And then sometimes what's kind of

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Speaker 5: and focus, you catch like these yawns that are like

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Speaker 2: What are the facilities like at Vanderbilt? And I would

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Speaker 2: like for you to walk back to both schools because

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Speaker 5: Oh you should have saw my sister. So my sister

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Speaker 5: I was able to play varsity. Maybe that affected why

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Speaker 5: No, I felt like because towards the end, I was

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And no, I don't think just no one wanted

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Speaker 2: So why did you choose to go to what did you?

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Speaker 5: How did you what do you call in New Mexico Military?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 5: My brother chose it for me. Really, I was thinking

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Speaker 5: And then so when Juco went UH six and four

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you when the offers came in, so I switched.

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Speaker 2: Because you said, you're a Florida player, and they just

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Speaker 5: I guess that's how it works, you know.

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Speaker 5: The same time. I don't switch it, Hey, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But once I switched it. It was like, oh, now

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Speaker 5: a three star. No, I was a no star.

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Speaker 2: You're a no star.

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Speaker 5: I was a negative star.

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Speaker 2: What sports did you play?

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Speaker 5: I wrestled and played football.

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Speaker 5: I played football and then I played baseball for two years.

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Speaker 5: People thought I was the best at wrestling, but I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, way more.

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Speaker 2: Could you have wrestled in college?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Could you play baseball in college.

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Speaker 5: If I would have worked at it?

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Speaker 2: What coaches had the most impact on your career? Jerry

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: He's hard, had lunch pill. He's just different, Like you

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Speaker 5: Even at New Mexico State, I was going through a

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Speaker 2: There have been times where if I were playing a

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Speaker 5: Oh well, we watch film, like uh so say we

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Speaker 2: What do you mean in the stadium?

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Speaker 5: Like once, once you're in it, once you're there. Like

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Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, Like this is like when you step

444
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Speaker 5: into the arena. Okay, in real life, real this is

445
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 5: real life. Okay, yeah, got it. Auburn holds like one

446
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Speaker 5: hundred and four thousand, Kentucky doesn't hold as much. Sure

447
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 5: how much they hold, but it's like a whole extra

448
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Speaker 5: layer you know, that goes up, so like the depth

449
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Speaker 5: perception is a little bit off.

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Speaker 2: Could you play college football twenty six though, and diagnose

451
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Speaker 2: like look at coverage as they're putting in and go, okay,

452
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Speaker 2: what would I do here? What would I do there?

453
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

454
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Speaker 2: Have you played with yourself?

455
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Speaker 5: I've only got to play once and that was at

456
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Speaker 5: the media days.

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Speaker 2: Can you call every defense. Though, Even even if you're

458
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Speaker 2: not good with your fingers on the sticks, could you

459
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Speaker 2: go okay, they're gonna blut safety, They're you know, go

460
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Speaker 2: to obviously, so we'll look at the hook here.

461
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I always do that, But sometimes it's the video

462
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Speaker 5: game is different than real life, and so that's why

463
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Speaker 5: sometimes it's kind of cracked. But I also like to

464
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Speaker 5: mess around on the video game. Just throw one on

465
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Speaker 5: one jump balls to Eli.

466
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what you guys are doing in JV chunk balls.

467
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Speaker 5: I try to get him to widen me out how

468
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Speaker 5: Cam Newton did at Auburn, But Eli's like man I

469
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Speaker 5: throwing a jump ball to No. Five time Mexican.

470
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Speaker 2: What quarterback do you watch or did you watch as

471
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Speaker 2: a kid that inspired you?

472
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Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel He was cold. He's a That guy is

473
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Speaker 5: just a different athlete.

474
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Speaker 2: Has he reached out to you at all?

475
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Speaker 4: Oh?

476
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Speaker 5: I we talked a few times. He's a real cool dude.

477
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Speaker 5: He's just when I watch his tape two, he's just

478
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Speaker 5: he's wired different. That's what I really like about him.

479
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Speaker 2: What do you do right after a game for your body? Oh?

480
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Speaker 5: Shoot, I usually just relax. Let me think that's a

481
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Speaker 5: good question.

482
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Speaker 2: Do you ever get in that like that the chamber

483
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Speaker 2: of the cold thing that the cryo.

484
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Speaker 5: Or the chiro therapy. No, we don't have one of

485
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Speaker 5: those at Vanderbilt. I probably I just go in the

486
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Speaker 5: next day. They have treatment, like at eight in the morning.

487
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Speaker 5: So I always go into there and just I'm big

488
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Speaker 5: on my legs, just making sure those are healthy because

489
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Speaker 5: my arm's always gonna come with it.

490
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Speaker 2: After the season. NFL aspissions for sure.

491
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Speaker 5: I mean they can't tell the highs and winner that

492
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Speaker 5: he can't get drafted.

493
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Speaker 2: You know they can't. And it's also you know there

494
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Speaker 2: have been other five, ten, five eleven.

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Speaker 5: Quarterbacks right that have gotten drafted and have played well exactly, Yeah,

496
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Speaker 5: I haven't. I had. I actually know more quarterbacks over

497
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Speaker 5: six foot one who have played I guess less not

498
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Speaker 5: as good than people under six foot.

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Speaker 2: With coach Lee being such a defensive guy, do you

500
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Speaker 2: spend much time with him?

501
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Speaker 3: Oh?

502
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I asked him a lot of questions about the defense.

503
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Speaker 5: He's like thinking about different types of ways, Like we

504
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 5: see NFL coverages all day and like they'll get to

505
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Speaker 5: a cover two doing some weird stuff and it's like, bro,

506
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Speaker 5: how are you doing that? That's not even a true cover.

507
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Speaker 5: He looks like Cover three, you know, but that stuff

508
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Speaker 5: is just way different, just a lot of third, third

509
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Speaker 5: and long stuff that they get to Eddie have final question.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, it's just awesome having you here. I mean,

511
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Speaker 8: my favorite was watching you in New Mexico because that

512
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Speaker 8: was like late for us, right, you know, so like

513
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Speaker 8: after I'd lost all my bets of the day in

514
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Speaker 8: New Mexico.

515
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Speaker 2: So dude, it's really cool avening here. That's funny because

516
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Speaker 2: those are the games we watch after Central time Zone,

517
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Speaker 2: after all of our games Eastern and Central Go, we're

518
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Speaker 2: watching like Oregon State, New Mexico. Yeah, you guys been

519
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Speaker 2: playing later so we can watch those games later.

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Speaker 5: I remember at New Mexico State we were like ninety

521
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Speaker 5: three against a spread or something like that.

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Speaker 2: That's pret Eddie. You should know that. Yeah, that's why

523
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Speaker 2: he's watching diego. Good to see you. Man, really appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys having.

525
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Speaker 2: Now let's get over to Minnesota head football coach PJ. Fleck.

526
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Speaker 2: Coach Fleck has been leading to Go First since twenty seventeen.

527
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Speaker 2: Known for his high energy and row the boat phrase,

528
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Speaker 2: coach holds the school record for most ball wins his

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Speaker 2: head coach with six, and he hopes to extend that

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Speaker 2: this week when they play New Mexico in the two

531
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Speaker 2: only twenty five Rate Bowl. Good luck to coach and

532
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Speaker 2: his team here he is coach PJ Flack, What up?

533
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Speaker 2: Coach Hobby Bones?

534
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Speaker 3: What's up? Man?

535
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that I do now in

536
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Speaker 2: the different jobs that I have where I can use AI.

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Speaker 2: Is Have we got to the point now where you

538
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Speaker 2: can just like stick other teams in AI to see

539
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Speaker 2: what their what their tendencies are through a computer program?

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Speaker 5: You can.

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Speaker 7: I think that we have been doing that for years.

542
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Speaker 7: We've been doing that in a very different way though.

543
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Speaker 7: The analytics have been around for a while, but AI's

544
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Speaker 7: taking it to a completely different level in my opinion.

545
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Speaker 7: But there's still a human element of football. Remember, our

546
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Speaker 7: product is people. Apple's product is the iPhone, the iPad,

547
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Speaker 7: the earbuds, and you know, like that's the product. When

548
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Speaker 7: you're dealing in a world where the product is eighteen

549
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Speaker 7: to twenty two year olds, there's still a sense of

550
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Speaker 7: the human part of it. So yes, like going forward

551
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Speaker 7: on fourth and one and having analytics on this and

552
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Speaker 7: that and what's the book say on this, and what's

553
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Speaker 7: the AI say on that? Which is fine if it

554
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Speaker 7: was all robots going out there and playing. Uh, these

555
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Speaker 7: are human beings, so there's still that human element. There's injuries.

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Speaker 7: What does your team really do well? What do they

557
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Speaker 7: not do well? The type of opponent you're playing, what

558
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Speaker 7: injuries do they have?

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Speaker 4: That mean?

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Speaker 7: It's crazy. It is the most unpredictable sport I think

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Speaker 7: in the entire world.

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Speaker 2: Have you been to a concert lately at all? Coach?

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Speaker 7: Yes, love concerts, love concerts.

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Speaker 2: What'd you go to?

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Speaker 7: Well, we've been to a few concerts. We went to UH.

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Speaker 7: We took the staff last year to Bruce Springsteen. I'm

567
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Speaker 7: a big fan of Bruce.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 7: We went to UH. We went to a small concert

570
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Speaker 7: for the TV one F Foundation, which is a great

571
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Speaker 7: friend of ours. She's a she's a teenage girl has

572
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Speaker 7: cancer and unfortunately's got it for the third time. But

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Speaker 7: she had like Graham Barham in and got to spend

574
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Speaker 7: some time around Grand Barham, who I thought was absolutely awesome. Uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, having that that oil Money song. And I'm

576
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Speaker 7: a big country music fan of Luke Combs, Riley Green.

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Speaker 7: I got to see those guys. Oh gosh, last one

578
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Speaker 7: Kenny Chesney.

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Speaker 5: In the sphere?

580
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Speaker 2: Did you go?

581
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Speaker 3: How would I forget?

582
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Speaker 1: That?

583
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: In fact, went to the show, not necessarily with but

585
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Speaker 7: met up with Matt Rule, the head coach from Nebraska

586
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Speaker 7: UNLV Dan Mullen, the head coach there, and we were

587
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Speaker 7: all at the show kind of together. Got to be

588
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Speaker 7: around Kenny a little bit. He was so gracious. Matt

589
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Speaker 7: Rule's friends with the guy, Dan Mullen's friends with the guy.

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Speaker 7: I'm not friends with him, so I was starstruck.

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Speaker 2: Man.

592
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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, I met you outside this Malibu

593
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Speaker 7: hotel like five years ago ago, and I was like, fangirling, man,

594
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Speaker 7: it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I know Kenny Brellan overly well. And he invited me

596
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Speaker 2: out a couple of times and I didn't go. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, I've seen Kenny before, but that's Spear show.

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Speaker 2: Is it pretty special? Just that that venue?

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Speaker 7: It is the greatest entertainment spectacle I think in the world.

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Speaker 7: I've seen lay Mis in London, I've done a lot

601
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Speaker 7: of like things. What people say, you have to see

602
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Speaker 7: this show. I love concerts. I go to a lot

603
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Speaker 7: of concerts. By far, the greatest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 7: Immersed in the experience I don't think I've had, and

605
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Speaker 7: we were sitting was perfect, but I don't even remember

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Speaker 7: looking at Kenny Chesney or the stage. Like it's the

607
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Speaker 7: only concert I've ever been to where I never looked

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Speaker 7: at the stage. You're immersed in this feeling and experience

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Speaker 7: of what Kenny Chesney is all about. The feeling he

610
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Speaker 7: wants you to feel.

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Speaker 4: You feel it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it hits your heart, your soul. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've never been and Heather and I love Vegas,

614
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Speaker 7: so it's great, but this fear is unbelievable. And Kenny

615
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Speaker 7: put on such a live show.

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Speaker 2: What an entertainer, all right there he is Coach Flake,

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Speaker 2: good to see a coach.

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Speaker 7: Big fan of you, Bobby, Thank you very much for

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Speaker 7: having us on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks coach. See later, let's change the sport for the

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Speaker 2: final interview of this episode and our talk with Tennessee

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Speaker 2: head basketball coach Rick Barnes. Coach Barnes spent a decade

623
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Speaker 2: at Tennessee turned them into a consistent contender in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: He built his name up with the Longhorns, where he

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Speaker 2: coached Kevin Durant. We talk about that he just signed

626
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Speaker 2: a lifetime contract with Tennessee. Here he is coach Rick Barnes,

627
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Speaker 2: hey coach. I was doing a little little intel onya.

628
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Speaker 2: I don't want to put my person out, but I

629
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Speaker 2: have a very close friend that has an sec official

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Speaker 2: and I said, I want to read you a quote

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Speaker 2: from him. I said, uh, And this is a very

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Speaker 2: close friend of mine who will come to the house

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Speaker 2: here sometimes in Nashville. And it doesn't live here though.

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Speaker 2: I said, uh, what's up a Rick Barnes. What kind

635
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Speaker 2: of guy is he? Because he'll tell me because some

636
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Speaker 2: coaches coach he's like, ain't good? He said, tremendous man

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Speaker 2: on and off the court. And I said, I'm about

638
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Speaker 2: to talk with him, and he said, Rick and I

639
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Speaker 2: have a great relationship. And so that's from somebody very close.

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Speaker 2: So now that I know you're a tremendous man, I'm

641
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Speaker 2: so excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I was living in Austin almost the whole time that

644
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Speaker 2: you were there and then moved to Tennessee. Basically, when

645
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Speaker 2: you moved to Tennessee, some would say you chase me

646
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Speaker 2: that's fine. That's fine, coach, you can chase me if

647
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Speaker 2: you want. That's it's all good. But what's the real ut?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what, when I first got here, I

649
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Speaker 6: don't think I bet you for two or three years,

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Speaker 6: when I would go out and meet and speak, everybody says,

651
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Speaker 6: welcome to the real ut. And obviously their line was, hey,

652
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Speaker 6: you know what the line was or would not be

653
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Speaker 6: at Texas if it wasn't for Tennessee. And uh so

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Speaker 6: they I got to go with the University of Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Whenever you leave a school that's color because you're in

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Speaker 2: two distinct you went from one very distinct. I mean,

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Speaker 2: even if it clems in distinct colors of the version

658
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Speaker 2: of the color. Do you all your burn orange stuff?

659
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Speaker 2: Does it go away like it's there's that fire cell

660
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Speaker 2: and then it's all now that the Tennessee orange.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah once I you know, the colors changed.

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Speaker 6: People that you know that are there, that you were

663
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: close to you, I've always said, hey, come get what

664
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: you want.

665
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: It's all here. Getting ready to get a new wardrobe.

666
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Well ties and everything. Yeah, you gotta think it's not

667
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: even just like the stuff with the logos on it

668
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: like ties, hats, everything you have, like all things must go.

669
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: So you guys at Tennessee have been it's an awesome experience,

670
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: Like you guys have a great game day atmosphere. Now

671
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: I've been there and I've lost. I'm an Arkansas guy

672
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: and you guys pounded us. That's terrible. It's miserable experience.

673
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: But I respected how passionate and how loud those fans were.

674
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you feel when you came in that you have

675
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: amplified the basketball culture there? You and your staff? I

676
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: feel that way as outside looking in and where do

677
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: you guys, what do you kind of rank you guys

678
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: sec wise as far as like arenas well.

679
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: You know, I will say this on that every People

680
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 6: tell me all the time just how hard it was

681
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 6: to play in Stokely Athletic Center back when before they

682
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 6: moved into the Foods which is now the food Citing Center.

683
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: They our fan base here is incredible. I mean you

684
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 6: think about it. We're the only programs in the country

685
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 6: that sell out, you know, women's softball, baseball, football, and basketball.

686
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 6: And I can.

687
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: Tell you this.

688
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: We've had people tell us that they think this is

689
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: as hard a place play as there anywhere in the country.

690
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: I could say the same thing about what you're talking about.

691
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: You're an Arkansas fan. Uh, that's that Walton Arena is

692
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 6: a tough place.

693
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: To play when that thing's cooking.

694
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: Now it is that ceilings blow that that uh that

695
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 6: is we sit around a lot and we talk about

696
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 6: Justin Ganey and I and people have asked me the

697
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: question all the time in my lifetime of the hardest arenas,

698
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: the loudest arenas to play in. And I've always said

699
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 6: the loudest arena ever in my coaching career was the

700
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 6: old gall the Gallagher Iba Arena before they raised the

701
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: roof on it, that thing when we had some incredible

702
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 6: games in there, when Coach Sutton was there, and it

703
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 6: was so definitely you couldn't even hear and if a

704
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 6: person with three inches from your face. Sometimes the old

705
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 6: Rentals College Sam at NC State Colefield House. Obviously, Kansas

706
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: still has what they have going, but there are some

707
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 6: places that you that really stood out like that. And

708
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: but when I'm coaching a game, I'm kind of oblivious

709
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 6: to all that, to be quite honest. But I have

710
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 6: had a lot of people tell me how hard it

711
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 6: is to come in here.

712
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: Employ.

713
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee sucks to play because you guys are so loud.

714
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm biased Arkansas Auburn. It's small, but that's it to

715
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Auburn gets loud and because it's so small and right

716
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: on top of you. So there's a dynamic there towards

717
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: the whole, like nine thousand people but doesn't allow freaking

718
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: nine thousand people.

719
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, it is. I mean you know that, does

720
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: you know?

721
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 6: I think about you know, Old miss can get going,

722
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: you know, I think now you know, obviously a lot

723
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 6: of people have cut their arenas down. You know, you

724
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: go out in Texas, now think about it. Baylor wins

725
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 6: the National Championship, goes from a ten thousand seed arena

726
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 6: to like of what the seven thousand and eight thousand

727
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 6: seed arena. Texas goes from a seventeen thousand seed arena

728
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 6: to a ten thousand seed arena. But there's still something

729
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: to be said about the arena that you know, twenty one, six, seven, eight,

730
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: and especially when.

731
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: You fill it up.

732
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 6: But there's a lot of them that can be loud

733
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: in some ways, obviously, but they all have their own

734
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: really unique personalities.

735
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: What about stand in that box. I don't feel like

736
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: they give you enough room, and you know, you come

737
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: out of the box and give a little warning. You

738
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: feel like that box should be extended a little better way.

739
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: Well, what I think they ought to do, they ought

740
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: to move the officials where I have the worst seat

741
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: in the house, where I sit on the bench the

742
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: officials but is right in my face the entire game.

743
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 6: His job is just staying at the foul line, and

744
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: my seat lines up with the foul line, and so

745
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 6: that makes me have to get up and move. But

746
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 6: sometimes I will literally he said, I'll push them to

747
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: the side a little bit.

748
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 4: But that's where they're supposed to be.

749
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, back in the day, you know,

750
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 6: you know, you could walk down as far as I

751
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: remember when you could walk to half court. But uh,

752
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: you know, again, it just goes back to where they

753
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: want to try to feel like they got control of

754
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 6: the game and trying to keep people under control.

755
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: When did they hit you though with the tech? Because

756
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm assuming they'll say, coach, do they give you like

757
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: a quiet warning? First? Allowed warning? Second? Like, at what

758
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: level do they go that's too much? We've told you

759
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: twice three times already.

760
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 6: Pends on each guy, you know, back earlier. I'll never

761
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: forget one night when I was coaching the province in

762
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 6: the Big East, and you know, coaches and referees, you know,

763
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 6: we all I thought we had pretty good relationships. We

764
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 6: knew each other. But Timmy Higgins one night, who I

765
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 6: loved to death and did a lot of games, and

766
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: games just started and you know, we weren't playing well,

767
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: and I'm getting after him a little bit, and next

768
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: thing I know, he comes by me and I said,

769
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: I just showed out Timmy and he turned around.

770
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: He teed me up. I looked around.

771
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: I said what and he looked down and I promise

772
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: you my foot was a half an inch out of

773
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 6: the box. He looked at me, he looked down and said,

774
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 6: you're out of the box. And then he turned back

775
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 6: and I said, are you kidding me? He said, Coach,

776
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 6: I had a bad day today. I don't want to

777
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 6: hear it, you know, And.

778
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: That you know thing. But you know, I go back.

779
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 6: I think there's guys that referee the game, and there's

780
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 6: guys that managed the game too. And if you asked

781
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 6: me what I'd rather have a guy that manages a

782
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 6: game or referee is a game, I'd probably I just

783
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 6: want referees to call the rules of the game, but

784
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: they need to mana is it too And I think

785
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: older guys probably are a little bit better at that. Uh,

786
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: as it gets experienced.

787
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a person on your staff that whenever

788
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: you have been triggered so much, they go, all right,

789
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: coach stop that you actually will listen.

790
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: To not really uh, you know, not really.

791
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 6: I mean if when I get if, if I do

792
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 6: get going, I I.

793
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: Want to get going. You know, this is really funny.

794
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: I think I don't remember the last time I had

795
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 6: tactical I think I think it was here when John

796
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 6: was at Kentucky and he got a technical foul and

797
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: I looked at him and I was laughing because he

798
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: didn't I didn't think he had done anything. And he

799
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 6: turned around teed me up because because I didn't think,

800
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, what did he do? And they teat us

801
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 6: both up, And that may be that's one of the

802
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: last ones I think I remember.

803
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: That I got.

804
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, officials, you know, I think there's

805
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 6: been a lot that has gone into helping the officials

806
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: to learn how to communicate. That's the key between games

807
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: with coaches and referees and the communication level. And obviously

808
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 6: some coaches are going to get along better with others

809
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 6: and vice versa.

810
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: But it's a communication factor.

811
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 6: That has been You know Mike Keys, who is our

812
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 6: supervisor of official, he has done just an incredible job.

813
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: Incredible and I will tell you this, I really do

814
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 6: respect those officials. I was on the rules committee for

815
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 6: five years and knowing and learning how hard they work

816
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 6: at it, have to work at it, and it's a

817
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 6: really difficult game to officiate. Uh, that gave me a

818
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 6: whole different perspective. But it also helped me because I

819
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 6: can I know where they're supposed to be.

820
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: They're not there.

821
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 6: I can kind of get at it a little bit.

822
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 6: But they work at it and they want to get

823
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 6: it right. That's all I'm going to tell you. They

824
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 6: do want to get it right.

825
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: It's important to them.

826
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: And back in the day, everybody used to feel like

827
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: there's a part time job for those guys.

828
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: It really isn't.

829
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 6: Those guys you know that money if they might have

830
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 6: another job, and it feels important to them to help

831
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 6: take care of their families. And I think you got

832
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 6: to respect him because really it's a tough game to officiate.

833
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Beaddi, Hey, Coach.

834
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 8: My first job out of college, I was a news

835
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 8: cameraman for News A and Austin. You were head coach

836
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 8: at Texas and I never did sports really, but they

837
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 8: sent me out to one of your press conferences because

838
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 8: the photographer wasn't available, so I'd go up there and

839
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 8: it's the first time I'd ever seen you in person,

840
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 8: and they had you guys had planned a fart machine

841
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 8: under one of the reporter seats, so every time that

842
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 8: reporter started to ask a question, you guys hit the

843
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 8: button and a fart noise would come out and he

844
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 8: just couldn't get his question out. I thought that was

845
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 8: the funniest thing in the world. I became a huge

846
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 8: fan of yours after that moment. After that, do you

847
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 8: still do that kind of stuff with the media? I

848
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 8: thought that was so great.

849
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: Hey, if you want me to get up, I'll walk

850
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 6: in my locker and I'll get that machine.

851
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 5: You remember that, Coach.

852
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm sure I've done worse than that, but

853
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes you just want to have fun doing

854
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 6: what you're doing. And I'm not sure who it was,

855
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 6: but I'm sure it was good reason why we put

856
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: it underneath their chair.

857
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: That's funny. Okay, final two questions. I'll talk about Kevin

858
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Durant for a second. How cold was he as just

859
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: a freshman at Texas?

860
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: Man?

861
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: Oh man, I could tell you, I could tell you

862
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 6: stories all day about him. I remember, you know, I

863
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 6: tell everyone, when you coach a guy like Kevin Durant,

864
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: he's the hardest workers. He's as harder worker, maybe the

865
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 6: hardest worker.

866
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: That we've ever coached.

867
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 6: He's just an incredible teammate, very unselfish. All he cared

868
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 6: about was winning. But you know, he just loves being

869
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 6: in the gym.

870
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: And he still does even today.

871
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean he works as hard as now

872
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 6: or harder. I mean, he just loves the game of basketball.

873
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 6: And so when you coach a guy.

874
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: Like Kevin, and you know, he came in and.

875
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 6: We had lost three guys early to the NBA Draft

876
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 6: and Daniel Gibson, PJ. Tucker and LaMarcus Aldridge, and we

877
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 6: were down to three players in our program, and we

878
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: signed best recruiting class in the country. We had, you know,

879
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 6: Kevin and DJ Augustine, Damien James, and we signed seven

880
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: freshmen and four I'm started, but Franfretchell had called me

881
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 6: in September. He was doing getting ready for the season.

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Speaker 6: He says, what do you think about your team? I said, well,

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Speaker 6: we're going to start for freshmen and a sophomore and

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Speaker 6: or junior, and I don't know how good our team is,

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Speaker 6: but I've got the best player in the country. He said,

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Speaker 6: you mean you got the best freshman. I said, no,

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Speaker 6: I got the best player in the country. I said,

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Speaker 6: he is the very best player in the country. And

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Speaker 6: he became the first freshman to win the national uh all,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think seven National Player of the Year awards.

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Speaker 6: But he had an incredible game where he kind of

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Speaker 6: broke out. We were playing against coach Knight at Texas

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Speaker 6: Tech and is one of those nights where I think

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Speaker 6: he had thirty some points, you know, maybe twenty rebounds

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Speaker 6: and almost triple double. And game after that, we came

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Speaker 6: back a couple of weeks later and Kevin had We

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Speaker 6: went out there and he got rolleding in he was cooking,

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Speaker 6: he was.

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Speaker 4: Rolling and playing at just an incredible level.

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Speaker 6: And Texas Tech comes back and right before the game,

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Speaker 6: you know, five minutes before the game, you know you're

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Speaker 6: supposed to put your starting line up in and we

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Speaker 6: had prepared for Texas Tech to come in, and next

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Speaker 6: thing I know, they come in. It's a tax changer

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Speaker 6: line up. They're starting to walk on and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: what in the world I'm looking there, and I started thinking,

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Speaker 6: you know what they're doing. Another good player in the league,

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Speaker 6: Martin Zeno, was a really good one on one player,

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Speaker 6: And I said, by the way they're starting, and Kevin's

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Speaker 6: going to have to match up with him. And so

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Speaker 6: Coach Knight's gonna go at Kevin with Zeno, He's gonna

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Speaker 6: make kitting. And so I told Kevin, I said, look,

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Speaker 6: whatever you do, you don't even leave the lane. You

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Speaker 6: just stand in front of the basket. And we jumped

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Speaker 6: on those guys and we were up probably like something

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Speaker 6: like thirty to five, and all at once, I hear

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Speaker 6: somebody stomping her foot and I look around and coach

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Speaker 6: nice looking down there. He looks at me and he

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Speaker 6: calls me a name and starts laughing at me. And

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Speaker 6: we're up at halftime by thirty points. The second half,

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Speaker 6: it took thirty seconds, thirty minutes to get the entire

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Speaker 6: at half over. He went zoned and I'd never seen

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Speaker 6: him go z and after the game he told me

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Speaker 6: it's him. At halftime, he said, if anybody fouls, we're

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Speaker 6: going to get into two three zone. If anybody fouls,

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Speaker 6: you're going to walk back to Lubvick.

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Speaker 4: I want to be out of here.

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Speaker 6: And that game was that half was over in thirty minutes,

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Speaker 6: but Kevin put on and then I can just remember

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Speaker 6: some of the things he did. One of my favorite

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Speaker 6: stories is we go to Kansas and place as you

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Speaker 6: know is gone and we start that game and Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you it's one of the greatest twenty minutes

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Speaker 6: in entire college basketball history. And Danny Manning told me

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Speaker 6: later he was on the bench with Bill and I mean,

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Speaker 6: we were running a play that we couldn't guard. When

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Speaker 6: Carmelolo Anthony beat us in the final force just and

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Speaker 6: simple isolation.

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Speaker 4: Put it's up to kd Just to pick it apart.

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Speaker 6: And every gallon court had scored a point because he

941
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: neither made the pass or did something. And Danny, they

942
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: couldn't stop him. I mean, he was unstoppable. And Danny

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Speaker 6: told me that Bill looked at him and said, what

944
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Speaker 6: do you think? And Danny said, I looked at Bill

945
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Speaker 6: and said, Bill, that's a bad mother. But he gave

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Speaker 6: it to him any and every way you could.

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Speaker 2: Everybody I know that knows you loves you, and so

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Speaker 2: it's really nice to talk to you. Thank you all right, Coch,

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