1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The your Good as Gone August 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: is over. Addition, as the Bengals wrap up the preseason 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: with a sixteen to seven win over the La Rams. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: and coaches, and analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Then, 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: in this week's fun fact segment, you'll hear from a 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Bengals rookie who grew up forty minutes from pay Course 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: stadium rooting for the Seattle Seahawks. Hey, nobody's perfect. The 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download Ultimate 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Bengals ahead of the twenty twenty two season. It's free 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: to play next level fantasy football with fantastic Bengals prizes. 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Get it now on the App Store and Google Play. 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: And here's a quick reminder that you can have the 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: latest to do of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since Ken Riley's almost certain enshrinement in 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Approximately ten days ago, 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in Canton announced the three players 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: in the seniors category that are finalists for the twenty 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty three class, including Bengals legend Ken Riley. The Rattler 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: will get into the Hall of Fame if he is 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: supported by at least eighty percent of the voters in January, 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: and that is considered a formality. Riley sixty five interceptions 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: ranked fifth highest in NFL history, and while he obviously 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: earned this, he got some help in recent years from 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: fans like Bengal Jim Foster, who helped organize rallies to 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: raise awareness that there should be more Bengals in the 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Hobson also 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: deserves a shout out for making Riley's case with his 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: fellow Hall of Fame voters. It's great news for Bengals 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: fans and especially meaningful for the Riley family. Here's hoping 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: that a couple of Anderson's, Ken and Willie, are up next. 34 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Now time to look back at Saturday's preseason finale against 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Bengals got on the scoreboard first in 36 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the first a thirty two yard pass from Brandon Allen 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to Stanley Morgan led to an Evan McPherson field goal 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: in a three nothing lead at the end of the 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: first quarter. It looked like the Rams might pull ahead 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: early in the second when they drove deep into Bengals territory. 41 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Third down in three at the Cincinnati ten to hand 42 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: off to Funk. He's got the first down inside the five, 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Tackled at the fours, ball comes out and the Bengals recover. 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Trey Von Henderson punched it away from Jake Fuck. Dominique 45 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: Davis recovered the fumble, and moments later Brandon Allen de 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: for the Bengals longest play of the preseason. He waits 47 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: at the goal line for a shotgun snap on second 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: and nine, Pump fakes throws it down the guideline. It 49 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: is caught on the run at the forty. Kendrick Pryor 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: with the catch and he gets taken down at the 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: forty two yard line. A thirty eight yard game. It 52 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: led to another McPherson field goal to make it six nothing. 53 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: But Kendrick Pryor winced when I asked him about that play. 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Not just wish I would have scored. That's all been 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: cool to have, Like an on a two yard line 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: ninety eight yard teschdown, that would have been cool. But 57 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: still happy though grateful, made a big play, But definitely 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: always want more than what I can get, So definitely 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: wish I would have got It would have been much 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: cooler with a ninety eight toesdown versus a thirty eight 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: yard game. So but it was, like I said, grateful though, 62 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: trusted me, gave me a good ball, let me run 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: underneath it, just made a play. It was another good 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: night for Pryor, who finished with five catches for sixty 65 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: five yards. He led the Bengals in receiving yards this 66 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: preseason with one hundred eighty two in three games. Felt 67 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: like I did pretty pretty decent throughing the preseason games. 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, went out there throughout camp, those preseason games. 69 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Just got a chance to show people I can make 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: plays and when my numbers called, I'll be there too, 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, make a play for something. So like, I 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: feel like I did pretty good. Do you feel like 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you've put yourself in a good position to still be 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: part of this team going forward? Oh yeah, definitely. You 75 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: know at this point inside of my control now, you know, 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: if we got but we don't have any more practices 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: our games left, So at this point it's just hoping. 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: But I put on film, you know, it's good enough 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: to make their roster. But I got got good confidence, 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, I felt like things should go should go 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: good for me. But at this point, like I said, 82 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: it's out of my hand. So you're just gonna sit back, wait, 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: wait till Tuesday, four o'clock. Tuesday at four is the 84 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: deadline for cutting the roster from eighty to fifty three. 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: If Prior doesn't make the cut, there's a strong chance 86 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: he'll be part of the sixteen man practice squad. The 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: bat Goals scored once more before halftime, as another McPherson 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: field goal made it nine nothing at the break. The 89 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Rams managed just seventy five yards of offense in the 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: first half. LA didn't do much better in the third 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: quarter as the Bengals forced a pair of fumbles. Zach 92 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Carter caused the first on a strip sack. T Gray 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Scales forced the second by ripping the ball away from 94 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: running back Trey Regas. For the second straight week. The 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Bengals took a nine point lead to the fourth quarter. 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: They weren't able to hold the lead. Last Sunday, against 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, and they allowed the Rams to score in 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter on Saturday night, Hell send three receivers 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: out to the right, one out to the left, shotgun 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: Snap Perkins looking around. He's back at the twelve. Under pressure, 101 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: gets away from Gunter running toward the left side. He's 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: down to the five and he gets close to the 103 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: pylon and he's in for a Rams touchdown when he 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: is an athlete. That made it nine seven Bengals with 105 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: roughly eleven and a half minutes to go. How did 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the offense respond with a thirteen play drive that took 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: nearly seven minutes off the clock and ultimately put the 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: game away. Browning drops back to pass fires in the 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: end zone, bought by Justin Rigg for the touchdown. The 110 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: young man from Springboro, Ohio, by way of the University 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of Kentucky with the touchdown catch and the Bengals lead 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: at fifteen to seven. It was Jake Browning's first touchdown 113 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: pass in eight NFL preseason games between the Vikings and Bengals. 114 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: And here's the guy on the receiving end, undrafted rookie 115 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: tight end Justin Rigg, going through my head. I heard 116 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: the play call and I knew that I had a 117 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: chance to get that ball, and I saw the the 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: outside leverage on the guy to break out, and right 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: when I broke out, I knew the ball was coming 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: and then obviously ended up in the end zone. And 121 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I was in shock at first, because you know, especially 122 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: as a blocking tight end, you never expect that type 123 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: of thing to happen. But you just gotta be ready 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: for when your numbers called. And it happened, and just 125 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: through the roof excited. I gotta work on my celebration 126 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. I didn't. I didn't know what to do, 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: but I'll get it next time, all right. Forgive me. 128 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I didn't keep watching to see how you celebrated. What 129 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: did you do? Oh? I just I just threw up 130 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: my arms. I didn't know what to do. Celebrated with 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: my teammates. But next time, next time, I'll have something else. 132 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Who got the ball? You were, Jake? I have it 133 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: right here in my locker, right here. So I appreciate 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: them getting me that ball, and I'll cherish that moment forever. 135 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: We'll get to know just and much better later in 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, the final score the Bengal sixteen the Rams seven. 137 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Now let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: about three minutes with Dave Lapham after the game. Coach 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: pitched shut up for three quarters against uh, you know, 140 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: a damn good football team. Hard to do. I thought 141 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: it was really good performance by our defense. A lot 142 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: of guys put a lot of snaps. It's a good 143 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: way to finish the offseason here. So the the two 144 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: days that you that you had working together and the 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: carry over to today's football game, it looked like guys 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: were pretty familiar with assignment, alignement and adjustment and all 147 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the sort of things that needed to get done tonight. 148 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I didn't notice a lot of mental awers. That's something 149 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: we'll see more tomorrow. But I thought the guys played fast, 150 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: they played with confidence and allowed us to get a win. 151 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: So Jake Browning on the one touchdown drive, he was 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: basically accounted for all the yards made, all the How 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: good was he tonight? He managed the situation really well, 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you know. And they had a zile leverage in the 155 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: run game playing base to eleven, so sometimes you just 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: gotta throw it and and I thought we did a 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: really nice job operating that situation. Yeah, I think you 158 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: threw at eleven straight times, didn't you know something like that? 159 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I think in that drive, yeah, they know, based to eleven, 160 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think they were down personnel gave us 161 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: the excuse to throw the ball a little bit more, 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: and so we took advantage of it. I mean, your 163 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: defense though in the second half went base. I mean 164 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: three linebackers, A lot of the linebackers and they were 165 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: eleven and they were a kid and felt like high 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: school again going out there with four down linement and 167 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: three linebackers played pretty well with it. Yeah, traditional old 168 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: school linement there to a true four three. I thought 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: that they handled it really well. You know, KeAndre had 170 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: to play a different role for us. Michael Thomas had 171 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: to play a different role. He played some nickel there 172 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. So I just thought our guys 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: did a really good job adjusting to some of the 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: things that we had to do to help ourselves in 175 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: this game. Turnovers, you guys really protect the ball well. 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: They had some difficulty and a lot of it was 177 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: due to the excellency your defensive football team. Again, they 178 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: did a great job creating the turnovers. Win the turnover 179 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a battle. You got a great chance to win the game. 180 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: I wish we could have capitalized a little bit more 181 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: on the red zone there and offense, but I thought 182 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: our guys did a really good job wining the turnover 183 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: battle early in the game. I think their first four 184 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: possessions three three and outs and then they had the 185 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: fumble at the two yard line and the low red zone. 186 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Pretty good. Yeah, it was really good. You know, it's 187 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: anytime you can hold him to zero at halftime, then 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: we feel like we're in a pretty good shape. Yeah, 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: no question. So as far as I know, knock on wood, 190 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: if I can find some nothing at all that looked 191 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: like it was any kind of a problem from an 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: injury standpoint, that was the biggest goal tonight, wasn't it. 193 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah we'll find out. You know, some of those things 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: pop up the next day, and so we'll to make 195 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: sure that everybody's healthy as we come out of this thing. 196 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: And then now you're in a in a scenario where 197 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to evaluate things from a personnel standpoint, 198 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: makes some tough decisions. I know, like everybody that I 199 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: talked to in the locker room that is trying to 200 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: fight for a job, man, I hope I stay here. 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: I love this place. I love it here. Kudos to 202 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: you for creating that kind of culture. I mean, guys 203 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: want to be here a big time. I think guys 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: have really bought it and they enjoy being around each other. 205 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: And that's important if you're gonna have a winning football team. 206 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Guys got to enjoy the process and be willing to 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: do some hard work and like doing it with the 208 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: people that they're doing it with. And I think that 209 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: we've got that here. So now, just what's the process, coach? 210 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: You got you gotta get down to the fifty three. 211 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: But the roster is still in flux, probably for a 212 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: couple of days or so. You have Labor Day weekend off. 213 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: But the Pittsburgh Steelers coming to town to open the season. 214 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: How much time have you given to the Pittsburgh Steelers 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: during the course of training camp? Has there been some 216 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: time to vote it to them. We're always keeping an 217 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: eye on everybody, you know, and so it'll be nice 218 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: to get through the Snell part and just dive into 219 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Congratulations, got the dub. He got out of 220 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it in real good shape. It looks like physically it's 221 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: a pretty good night. Good night, Yeah, I appreciate it. 222 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: So now players on the bubble have to go through 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: the agony of waiting to find out if they made 224 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the roster or the practice squad. One of the players 225 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: who seems likely to stick around is undrafted rookie cornerback 226 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Alan George. He played every defensive snap against the Rams, 227 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: and I talked to him about his performance and the 228 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: upcoming roster cuts. I think for the most part, it 229 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: was good. Um, I kind of got I did the 230 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: same thing in the first game. I took all eighty 231 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: one snaps on defense, so or are not all anyone 232 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: snaps on defense, But I took all the snaps on defense, 233 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: So I kind of got my my lungs ready for 234 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: that at that at that point when he played the Cardinals. 235 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: So when we came out here today, I actually felt better. 236 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: I was telling my wife that that I that I 237 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: kind of have to get my mom right. But I 238 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: actually felt pretty prepared him and I was ready to 239 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: him to handle the tempo or however fast they wanted 240 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: to go. So I think for the most part, I 241 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: handled the snaps pretty well. You went visited with your 242 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: wife right after the game, but she pretty excited about 243 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: how things went. Yeah, she's always excited. She's always in 244 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: my former twenty or seven. Ever since we met, she's 245 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: sent me a game day messes, long messes. I don't 246 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: know how she keeps formulating new ones. But and then 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: she has a Bible verse in there and we just 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: pray over it. So she's extremely supportive. She comes to 249 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: every single one of my games. She hasn't missed one, 250 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: so she's extremely support her. We're chatting with Allen George. 251 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I thought you had a good week and those joint 252 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: practices against the Rams, I thought you did extremely well. 253 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Had the interception in one of those practices. Do you 254 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: feel like this final week goes a long way toward 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: you sticking around here? Yeah, I mean I hope it does. 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wants to exit the league or 257 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: exit the team or a club. For the most part, 258 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I put my best foot forward, and 259 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: if I did make a mistake, I was. I wasn't 260 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: ever losing a rep. I was kind of just learning 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: from it. So my brother when I was growing up, 262 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: he always just tell me you don't ever lose, you 263 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: win or you learn and uh, and that's kind of 264 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: one thing I carried down throughout my football career, so uh, 265 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: anything that that hit me and during the during the 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: RAMS practices or just any practice throughout camp. If it 267 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: hit me once, I tried to make sure I got 268 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: it off my tape and I didn't let it hit 269 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: me again. So for I think I put my best before. 270 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: Did anything in particular stand out in those joint practices 271 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: against the likes of Cooper Cup and the other great 272 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: players that they have on that team. Yeah, I didn't. 273 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get the chance to cover Cup, but I 274 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: talked to him after one of the practices, Uh, and 275 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: it was just it was just crazy just to be 276 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: in the same It's I mean, it's crazy for me 277 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: to be in the same space as these people already. 278 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I belong in the league definitely. Um, 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: but just me coming from the situation I came from 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: as an undrafted rookie from from Vandy and then I 281 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't play football till I was fifteen, from a city 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: of eight thousand people like it. It's not common from 283 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: my type to get here to this point. So um, 284 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: anytime I get the chance to meet any of those 285 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: people that might get a gold jackets, it's kind of nuts. 286 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: So Um, I think I learned. I learned some intricacies 287 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: of how they run routes. Uh, and I've been able 288 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to kind of make that and adapt how I play 289 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: certain certain receivers when it comes to body types or 290 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: their speed or anything like that. So I always try 291 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to use the knowledge that I get from from the greats. 292 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: If I feel like final question for Alan George, how 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: do you plan to spend the next day or two 294 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: hoping to get that that phone call that you're part 295 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: of this team going forward? UM, I'm just gonna spend 296 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: it happy. I have no no, nothing, nothing to hold back. 297 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: I really have no regrets of how I played this 298 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: or my interactions within the building and meetings or training 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: like like weightlifting or anything like that. I feel like 300 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: I put my bestsel forward and in every regard. So 301 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, my wife is just gonna relax or it 302 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: relaxed as much as I can and then just pray 303 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: and hope it was just like we did for the draft. 304 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that didn't that didn't work in our favorite 305 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: but when he got something right after. So if it 306 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: goes our way, it goes our way, and I'll be 307 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: extremely grateful. And if it doesn't I'll have my head 308 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: up high, and I'll still be extremely grateful for the opportunity. 309 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: You should have your head up high. You've done an 310 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: excellent job. Best of what going forward? Thank you. Allen 311 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: had five tackles against the Rams and shared the team 312 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: lead and passes defense in the preseason with three. Now 313 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: time for postgame analysis with Lap and this week's Radio 314 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: guys recap. All Right, Lap, The Bengals end the preseason 315 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: with a nine point victory over the Ram sixteen to 316 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: seven the final score. I know people don't remember wins 317 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: and losses in the preseason, but the players do. When 318 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: they take the field, they want to walk out of 319 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: there with a win, and obviously everybody feels a little 320 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: bit happier that at least they got one of these 321 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: three preseason games. I agree with you, Dan, I couldn't 322 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: agree with you more in fact, And to get the 323 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: victory against the Rams, who obviously had a bit of 324 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: defeat in Super Bowl fifty six. And then you know 325 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: the little uh, a little bit of a rub that 326 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: occurred at the end of the second day of practice. 327 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are still guys that have feelings about that. 328 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: So it's it's good to get a victory, particularly the 329 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: way the defense played. I mean, jeez, they were just 330 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: lights out. You shut out an NFL team in any 331 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: circumstance for three quarters, that's getting it done. I mean, 332 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: these guys are out there on the football field for 333 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: a reason. I mean, they can form, they're they're high 334 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: end athletes. And I thought Louianna Rumo and his defensive team, 335 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean the first four possessions thirty three and ounce 336 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: in a takeaway in a low red zone, I mean 337 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: it was crazy good. And you know, I thought Brownie 338 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: played well. The receiving corps or own nine catches for 339 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: ninety three yards last five forty two prior five for 340 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: sixty five. I mean nineteen catches out of three guys, 341 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, for about two hundred yards. I mean, that's 342 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty good. They did a great job, I thought, 343 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: finding holes and seams and the zone coverages of the 344 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: rams and you know, we're on the same page. Browning 345 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: did a good job finding those guys, you know, as 346 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: well as Brandon all and both quarterbacks played well. I 347 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: mean Brandon ll And eleven out of fifteen four hundred 348 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: and thirty yards, Browning nineteen for twenty four and seventy three, 349 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: and like you said during the broadcast, Brownie was responsible 350 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: to the touchdown drive all by himself ten for twelve 351 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: to sixty three yards in the touchdown passed and he 352 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: had the twelve yard run to keep the drive alive. 353 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean it was the Jake Browning drive. I want 354 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: to follow up on those three wide receivers, Trent and Irwin, 355 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Kendrick pryor Kwamie Lasseter. All of them had at least 356 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: five catches tonight. I would think the Bengals will have 357 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers on the practice squad. Can 358 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: they have all three? I know, it's it's h they 359 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: all they all played like they wanted to be there tonight, 360 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Can they have three out 361 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: of sixteen? I think maybe they can. Maybe they can, boy, 362 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: they all deserve it. And then you know, Trevion Williams 363 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: every opportunity he gets, this kid steps up as well, 364 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: you know. I mean he's a practice squad guy last year, 365 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: and he's certainly we had four catches himself for forty 366 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: yards and seven rushes for twenty two and I thought 367 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: I thought he was the best blitz pick up guy 368 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: against the Giants last week. In terms of consistency of 369 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: technique and all that. I mean, they've got some good 370 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: football players. This personnel department here has put together a 371 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: roster that's got some some depth and talent. There's no question. 372 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: A guy that stood out to me tonight who I 373 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: really hadn't noticed much in the first two preseason games 374 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: as linebacker t Gray Scales. He was part of the 375 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: coin toss as one of the five Cincinnati kids that 376 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: went out there at the beginning of the game. He 377 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: had six tackles, he forced a fumble. That's a guy who's, 378 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to stick around on the practice squad, 379 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and I thought he had his best performance tonight. I 380 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: agree with that one hundred thousand percent as well. I 381 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: mean I put him down for all right now, he's 382 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: going to really step up on special teams. He's gonna 383 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: impress Darren Simmons. Well, heck, he got his snaps defensive 384 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: lyne he stepped up in those. I mean he showed 385 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: you know that. Okay, I'm on the big stage. This 386 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: is important to me. I'm a Cincinnati guy. Great crowd again, 387 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: by the way, wasn't it for preseason him. I mean 388 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: written they were into us, a good crowd, and the 389 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: juices were flown now to him, this was his individual 390 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six. You know it was that important 391 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of these guys, and they played like it. Yeah. 392 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: I thought, he's If he's not a practice squad guy, 393 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: that'd be stunning. He's got to be. You want to 394 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: develop a kid like that that responded the way he responded, 395 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: He certainly didn't. You know, the stage wasn't too big 396 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: and bright for him. He stepped up and he showed himself. 397 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: So he showed up big time. What do you think 398 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: becomes of the punting battle? Kevin Hubert's first punt, great 399 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: hang time, forty five yards fair, caught exactly what Darren 400 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: Simmons is looking for. But we know about the leg 401 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: strength of Drew Chrisman, and he boomed when sixty five 402 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: yards now went to the end zone, but it bounced 403 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: at the five before going in. It's still forty five 404 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: yards net. Do you think Darren in his mind has 405 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: his winner determined? Do you think he's gonna think about 406 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: it for twenty four or forty eight hours? I don't. 407 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: I wonder I wonder if he does have it determined 408 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: because I think I think tonight showed what you have 409 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: to make the decision about. One guy has booming howards 410 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: are hanging off his right hip, and the other guy 411 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: still is the tremendously accurate. You know, Finesse find the 412 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: directional punting spots perfectly. And I guess to me, we 413 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: were talking about a little bit before the game in 414 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: the booth that how many times during the course of 415 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the season do you have to flip the field as 416 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: opposed to making accurate directional kicks and backing people up. 417 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the both invaluable things. If you can back 418 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: somebody up inside the ten, never mind the twenty inside 419 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: the ten like Kevin has done, you know, a myriad 420 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: of times in his career, that's massive. To make him 421 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: go long field like that, I mean, that gives the 422 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: defense extra juice. And you know, the offense is like, 423 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: I can't make a mistake. If I make a mistake, now, gosh, 424 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: they got points. You know, we're on a short field. 425 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: So it changes play calling, change his attitude, changes mindset. 426 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: But there's nothing better than you know, you're backed up 427 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: in your fifteen yard line and a punter boots the 428 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: ball from his own end zone to their ten yard line. 429 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's like huge, So you know, I guess, 430 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: I guess Darren has to weigh all that. I guess 431 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: weigh all that out. To me, I don't know. It's 432 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: almost like Kevin Huber in my mind, almost deserves to 433 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: be knocked out instead of TKOD And I'm not sure 434 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: he's knocked out. You know, I think Christman's a talent. 435 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: I think somebody's going to gobble him up when he 436 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: goes on the waiver wire. And I honestly, I think 437 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: somebody that's got a punning problem is gonna goble up 438 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Huber as well. Whoever they let go has got 439 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: a job somewhere in the National Football League. But Kevin 440 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Huber is an institution here. I mean he's He's something 441 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: that you know, seasons come and go, but Hubert stays. 442 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: So it's going to be very very interesting. Darren Simmons 443 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: has a very very intriguing decision to make, and you 444 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: know he did. I thought he was kind of tipping 445 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: his hand a little bit when he says when he 446 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: said early before training camp started, I think he said 447 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the job now because of place kicking, 448 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: the excellence of the kickers as a holder and forty 449 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: percent punter. I'm thinking, oh, he's going Huber. And then 450 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: Chrisman is a good athlete and he's got high hand coordination. 451 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: He's shown marked improvement. And Darren says he's monitored. You know, 452 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: he's tracked all of them, and it's it's a toss 453 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: up so Man, but he's done it for all those 454 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: years and Clark Harris and Kevin Huber have never had 455 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: a screw up. All that stuff just means something to me. 456 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's one of those situations where how 457 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: can you how can you say what? It's either decisions, 458 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: it's that's made. But it's a difficult one, very tough. 459 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: Let's turn to Jackson Carmen, who got every snap at 460 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: left guard. He may have been very solid over the 461 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: course of most of those snaps the night. Hopefully he 462 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: was when we go back and look at the tape 463 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: of the game. But he did give up a sack, 464 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: he had a penalty. The kinds of mistakes unfortunately that have, 465 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, hurt him because it's kind of a roller 466 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: coaster ride with him. Do you think that helps clinches 467 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: that clinch things in favor of Cordell Volson, if it 468 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: wasn't already clinch going into the game. Yeah, you know, 469 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: I think I think that if if it was close 470 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: going into the game. In my mind, Cordell Volson the 471 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: thing that if I'm coaching the offensive line, I have 472 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of trust and Cordell Volson and athletics is 473 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: built on trust, just like relationships. Any relationships built on trust. 474 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: And I think Cordell Volson, even even as young as 475 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: he is, he's he's very very I mean, all the 476 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: abilities besides the physical ability or liability, responsibility, dependability, availability, 477 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: he's got all the available abilities. And he's he's strong. 478 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, he finishes, he learns quickly. It's not you know, 479 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't make the same mistake twice. He's got he's 480 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of uh, he's got a lot of 481 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: very very high redeeming qualities. You know. Um, He's made 482 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: us some good stuff. There's no doubt about it. So 483 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: but honestly, I think they're gonna need both of them 484 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: at some point in time. So if it does work 485 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: out that they go with Cordell Wilson, Jackson, Carmen can't 486 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: get his darbar down Jackson Carmen. I mean, if you, 487 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: if you you know, my mindset would be all right, Well, 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: I'll just try to get better, work harder. Maybe they rotate, 489 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe three guards rotate. You know, who knows, maybe they 490 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: end up. I'm not going to run a messenger guard 491 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: system with Joe Barrow, but who knows what they do it. 492 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: You just you don't spit the bit, you don't give 493 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: up on it. And that's going to be the next 494 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: That's the next thing that I would look at as 495 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: a coach. All right, Well, if it doesn't work out, 496 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: am I going to lose one of these two guys? 497 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: And you can't make a decision on well, I don't 498 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: want to hurt that guy's feelings. This guy would handle 499 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: it better. So I'm gonna go with this guy because 500 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: he would. You don't want to do that. So it's 501 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: I think. I think Cordell Wolson is probably comfortable with 502 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: resting on the tape that he's put on display, and 503 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: I'll let the chips fall as they may. Let's turn 504 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: to Justin rig who caught a three yard touchdown past tonight. 505 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals number one tight end Hayden Hurst healthy ready 506 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: to go for the start of the season. Drew Sample 507 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: sprinted with some of his teammates before the game tonight, 508 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: so it looks like hopefully he'll return to practice next week. 509 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: Mitchell Wilcox is still out, so the tight end position 510 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: is a bit of a mystery. And justin Ray, we 511 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: already knew he could block, and now he showed something 512 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: in the passing game with a touchdown catching the red 513 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: zone tonight. Yeah, that was good to see. I think 514 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: they know. It's almost like they rewarded him for a 515 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: job well done at the line of s primmage. Now 516 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you know, We're gonna target you and 517 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: let you catch an NFL touchdown pass in the preseason. 518 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a good job kid, and h 519 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, we know you can do this and we're 520 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna let you do it. And just like every position, 521 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Dan and I mean I when every single training camp 522 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: I went to, I'm like, I gotta win us a job. 523 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: First thing I have to do is win a job 524 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: to get on the rush and then win a starting job. 525 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: But you have to approach it that way every year 526 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: because there's always somebody, whether they trade for him or 527 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: they pick him up off the waiver wire or whatever 528 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: the case may be. A big part of a personnel 529 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: department's responsibility is always trying to improve the football team. So, man, 530 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: if you think you got it made, that's when you 531 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: don't have it made. Honestly, it's it's so competitive. There 532 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: are so many guys that would give their right arm 533 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: to be in the National Football League. And if you 534 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: feel like you know, I got it, I'm good man, 535 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: you'd start that complacency. You're gonna get slapped down, man, 536 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: and get slapped down quick. So hopefully all these guys 537 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: realize because that this roster Tuesday at four o'clock, that's 538 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: just the beginning. There could be, you know, multiple tweaks 539 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: during the course of the week. You know, there may 540 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: be some guys that are on the on the waiver 541 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: wire that they fully intend on bringing back and having 542 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: a guy make the fifty three man roster then put 543 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: them an injury reserve. It's a lot lesser time, so 544 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: you have to play the roster mechanics, and they've done 545 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: that over the years multiple times. So at four o'clock 546 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, you can actually don't let the all the 547 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: air out though, because man, There's there's more days the 548 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: rest of the week that you're gonna have to worry 549 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: about and deal with. And that's just life in the NFL. 550 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: If it were easy, everybody to do it. Last thing, 551 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: at the end of the final preseason game in your 552 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: rookie year, did you know that you had made the 553 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: team or did you have that uncomfortable weight to find 554 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: out that you were good to go? I was drafted 555 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: in the third round, the sixty first pick in the draft, 556 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: and a guy named Daryl White, All American guard from Nebraska. 557 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: We were the two All American guards. He was drafted 558 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Dog fight and you know, my 559 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: good buddy, Stan Walter's fellow Syracuse salum was on the 560 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: team still before he had traded to Philadelphia Eagles for 561 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: John Rees, the quarterback and standing makes the Pro Bowl 562 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: at the eag He was a really good player. But 563 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: so last cut and I get my playbook in my hand, 564 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: I get out of my car and I'm looking at 565 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: Frank's mouse who was the turk, And I'm like, I'm 566 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of tiptoe and you know, should I walk faster? 567 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: And he looks at me and then he kind of 568 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: looks around me. I'm like, so I go to my 569 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: locker change out, put on my shorts, t shirt, going 570 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: to the team meeting him, and everybody had tape. Paul 571 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Brown put a strip of tape in the right hand 572 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: corner up a right hand corner of your desk with 573 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: your name on it, so Lion will up front. I 574 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: go looking for my name, No lap him. I'm like, 575 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Sun up again. Frank's mouse didn't even recognize me. And 576 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: that's how bad I suck. He didn't even know who 577 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: the hell I was. This is awful and I made 578 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: no impression, and I was beat red. I could I 579 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: could feel the heat coming off my chest, and I'm like, 580 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: Darrell made it and make it something. So I really 581 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: had no idea, and I'm thinking because because I played 582 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: the first three preseason games, I played quite a bit, 583 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: and then I didn't, you know, and Daryl played a 584 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: ton and I'm thinking, Okay, is this a signal that 585 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: you played well enough or it's like it wasn't good enough. 586 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: And Darrel, they want to see him how well he's playing, 587 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: and so you don't know. You just don't know what 588 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: they're thinking. And so I turned around to find Darrell 589 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: and shake his hand. No, Darrel. I'm like, God, they 590 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: cut both of us. I can't believe that. And then 591 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: everybody starts laughing and stand hit hidden my desk in 592 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: the he pulls my desk out. Ain't done, rookie. I 593 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: wanted to kill him, but I'm like my heart was pounding, 594 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: and so Paul Brown after the meeting, congratulations young man, 595 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, coach, I was thinking, that's your first mistake. 596 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Don't think, don't think. I'll do the thinking you play. 597 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Don't think. I'm like, yes, sir. Words to live by. 598 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Don't think doubt about it, no doubt about it, don't 599 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: overcomplicate anything, don't think. Bengals returned to practice on Wednesday 600 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: as they turned their focus to the regular season opener 601 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: against the dreaded, hated, but grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steelers. The 602 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the free 603 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: to play fantasy football game. This past season, Ultimate Bengals 604 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: awarded a weekly winner during the course of the year, 605 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: with tickets, autographed merchandise, and money can't buy experiences all 606 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: up for grabs. Find Ultimate Bengals in the App Store 607 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: and Google Play. Now time for this week's Fun Facts interview, 608 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: where you get to know the person under the pads. 609 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with rookie tight End. Justin 610 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: rig from Springboro, Ohio, about forty miles away from Cincinnati. 611 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Were you a Bengals fan as a kid? Actually, I 612 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: was not, I guess I kind of at first grew 613 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: up and my middle brother was a Bengals fan, and 614 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: then my oldest brother was a Steeler slash Falcons fan, 615 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: and then I kind of revolted against going with one 616 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: of them, and I was I've been a Seahawks fan 617 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of mine. It was my whole life until kind 618 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: of up to until now, I guess. So, yeah, I 619 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, growing up in Springboro wearing a Russell Wilson jersey. 620 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: How passionate were you about that? I mean it started 621 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: with Matt Hasselbeck and Sean Alexander and them way back 622 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: when I was a little younger, and when they went 623 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl against the Steelers that year, and 624 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: then ever since then, you know, yeah, I was a 625 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: big Russell fan. Bobby Wagner, all those guys, just loved 626 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: them all. Justin you're a big man, You're six six 627 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: to sixty Were you always the tall kid in the 628 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: back of the class photo or did you have a 629 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: late growth spurt growing up? I would say I was 630 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: always a taller kid, but I would say up until 631 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: eighth grade, I was kind of with those taller kids. 632 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: But eighth grade, going into freshman year, I would say 633 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: I just started to grow and be like the taller 634 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: kid in school. Probably only a couple other kids in 635 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: school were even close to the height that I was at, 636 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: so I guess at that in high school I kind 637 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: of took over the height. When it came time for college, 638 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: you went to Kentucky Why UK? And was that a 639 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: difficult decision? I would say throughout the process, you know, 640 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: going to different camps and stuff like that, I had 641 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: no idea until I think I started to talk with 642 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Coach Stoves and Coach Marrow, and they were heavily recruiting 643 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: me and just kind of talking to them, busy with them. 644 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: They kind of made Kentucky feel like a second home, 645 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: and they kind of made they felt trustworthy. And I 646 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: felt that the way Coach Marrow was talking to me, 647 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: I could really trust what he was telling me, and 648 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: everything that he did tell me came so till this day. 649 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: I think that the way they recruit and the way 650 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: they do, they're really upfront and honest with players, and 651 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I think that they're going to continue to grow that 652 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: program like they are now. And I think I've made 653 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a great choice coming there. You must have liked it 654 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: because you're there for a long time, more than a 655 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: quarter of your life. So you got injured. It's a 656 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: true freshman, so you got a medical red shirt. Then 657 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: the COVID rules allowed you to take an extra year, 658 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: so you actually played in six different seasons. Was staying 659 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: a football decision or did you just love UK that 660 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: much that you wanted another year? It was definitely. I 661 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: mean I do love UK, but I think that extra 662 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: year really helped me develop my game even more, with 663 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, getting a whole new offense and it kind 664 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: of being the NFL style offense that we had. I 665 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: think it really helped propel me to get to where 666 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I am now. I think staying that extra year was 667 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: kind of beneficial to helping me get to the NFL. 668 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: Aside from football, what was your favorite part of the 669 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: UK experience? I would say I do love UK as 670 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: like a city, and I love everything that they have 671 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: going on there. I feel like there's always something to do, 672 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: and then you know, just I feel like anywhere you go, 673 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: the college experience is really awesome, and especially having the 674 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: teammates that I did and the friends that I had there, 675 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: that it really was a great thing all around. You 676 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: signed with the Bengals after the draft as a college 677 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: free agent. I imagine you were hoping to get drafted. 678 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Was that weekend disappointing? I mean yeah, I mean, every 679 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: every player always wants to get drafted, and you're sitting 680 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: there watching the whole draft, just watching your phone because 681 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you really never know. I knew I was just from 682 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: reports and talking to my agent. I knew i'd be 683 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: in that back end. I mean, I have different opinions, 684 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: but I just knew that's where I would be, and 685 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: I knew that the situation that I was in would 686 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: come down to it, and you know, it's it's really 687 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: worked out for me. And I love being close to home, 688 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: love being at the Bengals, and I love everything that 689 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: they do here. You know, Coach Taylor has a great 690 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: program going on, and I just love the way that 691 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: the style of the organization they have. So we've heard 692 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: stories about guys in your position. Where as the draft 693 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: is winding down, the phone starts to ring. It's teams 694 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: trying to get in position to potentially sign you as 695 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: soon as they're allowed. Is that what it was like 696 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: for you? Oh? Yeah, I received phone calls from different teams, 697 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: all kind of from all different areas, and you know, 698 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: it was just kind of it comes in fast. So 699 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: I was getting those calls and then you know, right 700 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: when you hung up, you talked to your agent about 701 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: your options, what you think, and then you get another 702 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: phone call and then you just kind of you got 703 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: to make a decision fast because those offers could go away, 704 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: like like anything can really happen in that time, and 705 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: you could call back and they'd be like, okay, well off, 706 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: like that offers off the table type thing. But you know, 707 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: we kind of had a game plan going into what 708 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: my decisions would be and looking at different teams. We 709 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of had it down and I feel like this 710 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: was the best fit for me. We're doing fun facts 711 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: with tight End justin Riggs. So you made your NFL 712 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: debut a couple of weeks ago at pay Course Stadium. 713 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: How big was the rooting section and can you articulate 714 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: what that was like to make your NFL debut so 715 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: close to home. Yeah, it was pretty awesome because you know, 716 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: I had pretty much my whole family here. But then 717 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I also had a lot of close friends at the 718 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: game too, And you know, you know, once you start playing, 719 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: you kind of zone out, but then after the game 720 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: you kind of realize all the people that were there 721 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: to watch you. And you know, after I saw my 722 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: entire family and I was just ecstatic, and I was like, 723 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: I just played in the NFL game. You know, you 724 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: reach your goal. I mean, I have more goals now, 725 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: but you kind of reached that final goal of I 726 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: made it to the NFL and I got to play 727 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL game, But you know, I still got 728 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: a lot more goals to prove and I got a 729 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: lot of things to do. But just being able to 730 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: share that with my family and friends was a great thing. 731 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: I reference your size. You're an excellent blocker, but I 732 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: know that you can sider yourself a good pass catcher 733 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: as well. Correct, is that a big thing you would 734 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: like to prove to everybody you know right now? Like 735 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: I see myself as that blocking tight end and I 736 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: want to fit that team role and I'll go in 737 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: there and block for a second down. I'm completely fine 738 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: with that. You know, if I go out, if I 739 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: do go out for a pass, I'm gonna catch it 740 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna run and I'm gonna do what I 741 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: can do. I feel like I have great hands, but 742 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: right now i feel like I am a great blocker, 743 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna utilize that and push for my future 744 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: as a blocking tight end show that I can do that, 745 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: Just so so the team can trust me in that factor, 746 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: I'll write a few wild card topics for Justin Rigg. 747 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: According to year UK bio, your hidden talent is card tricks. 748 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: There's evidence of this on YouTube, so I've seen some 749 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: of your work. How did that get started? You know, 750 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: I think my freshman because in high school and stuff like, 751 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I would always like if I was at home, I 752 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: would get bored. I would start learning card tricks. And 753 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: there was a time period where I would a while 754 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: that I learned a bunch of card tricks and then 755 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: I really liked it. I thought it was really cool. 756 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: And then I got to UK and I saw the 757 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: formulare like, oh hidden talents. I was like, the only 758 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: I can think of as a card tricks. I wrote 759 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: it down and it kind of stuck. And then throughout 760 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: my years at UK, they asked me a couple of 761 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: times to do I wasn't as doing it as much then, 762 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: but they kind of asked me to do it. So 763 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: I try to pull from memory some card tricks that 764 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: I could do. But yeah, I think I love you know, 765 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: America's got talent and all that stuff that you see 766 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: all those things on I think they're really cool. I 767 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: recommend checking it out on YouTube. You do it well. 768 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: If that you're hidden talent, what are you terrible at? Terrible? 769 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: You know? With all seeing all these rookie show things 770 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: that they're doing across the league and stuff, There's one 771 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: thing I will never sing. I cannot sing. I have 772 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: a bad voice. I know I can't sing, and I 773 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: just I would refuse to do that. But yeah, I 774 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: would say that was the one thing I'd be that 775 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: I'd be bad at. John Caliperry recently did an interview 776 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: where he said UK is a basketball school. Were you offended? 777 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of things can get taken out 778 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: of context, and I don't know the full story of it. 779 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: I did see all that stuff, and you know, you 780 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: see it all over social media and stuff. But I 781 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: know that the both programs and all of UK athletics 782 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: have a great, you know, friendship, and they're all together 783 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: and they want every single organization or every team to succeed. 784 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: And I think that that feud was I know that 785 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: those coaches don't have that feud with each other, and 786 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: I know they're probably they probably already figured it out. 787 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: And to me personally, you know, I think what coach 788 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Joe has done has shown that we that were in 789 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: everything type of school, and I think that it shows 790 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that it was meant that way. I 791 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 1: guess Coach cal did go on to say he wants 792 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: the football team to win double digit games every year 793 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: and go to a bowl game, so I guess he 794 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: couched it a little bit. Yeah. Final question, This one's 795 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of deep. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, 796 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: whoever it might be, who would that person be and why, 797 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: like maybe George Washington, just to meet somebody back from 798 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: way back then and just kind of understand what the 799 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: things that they went through and how I guess that 800 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: time period and just what it what it was like, 801 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: because you really never know what happened all those years 802 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: ago and just kind of see, I guess what happened 803 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: then I don't. That's a tough question though. I'll have 804 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: to think about that one more. I'm trying. A bunch 805 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: of people are going through my head, and I'm just 806 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to pick a good one. But yeah, I would 807 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: just think anybody from you know, back in like eighteen 808 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: hundreds or just just to know what that time period was. Like. 809 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: You can't go wrong with George Washington, father of our country. 810 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: That's a great answer. Yeah, that's why I picked. I 811 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: was like that, you can't go wrong with that, all right. 812 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: If you think of something else, feel free to let 813 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: me know. But in the meantime, appreciate your time, best 814 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: of luck, and congratulations on this opportunity making it into 815 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: an NFL campus a remarkable accomplishment in and of itself. Yeah, 816 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: thank you. I really appreciate it, all right. That's justin ring. 817 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of The 818 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download Ultimate Bengals 819 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the upcoming season. It's free to play next 820 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: level fantasy football with fantastic Bengals prizes. Get it now 821 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: on the App Store and Google Play. 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