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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says, here are Mickey Spagnola, Bryan Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It is a fabulous football Friday. Mickey,
Speaker 1: who do you wave at when you wave when they
Speaker 1: announce your name? Yourself in? Somebody's watching, No one in particular,
Speaker 1: just all the Mickey fans fans. All right, it's time
Speaker 1: to talk Cowboys. It's time to talk Cowboys, Red Skins
Speaker 1: and I am Bill Jones, Rob Phillips. The Aggies are
Speaker 1: doing what this weekend. I think we're off this week
Speaker 1: I think you are off this weekend. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: the Bayou Bengals are doing what this weekend. Mississippi stayed
Speaker 1: at home. This will be interesting. Hopefully you'll be able
Speaker 1: to be in a boy, You'll be in a position
Speaker 1: because you're here. I am here, you stay here. I
Speaker 1: will I will sweat this game like I always Six
Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow night on the ESPN and the Missoi Tigers
Speaker 1: are doing what Mickey, homecoming against Memphis, and you'll miss homecoming.
Speaker 1: I will probably miss the game. Fly on to Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: All right, non conference tilt against Memphis. Yes, Memphis is
Speaker 1: not bad. The one like a six and one. A
Speaker 1: lot of people picking them to win, so and I
Speaker 1: think the spreads only seven points. Can you might have
Speaker 1: not picked the right team for homecoming? Can I ask
Speaker 1: a real quick question here, Mickey, is this quarterback played
Speaker 1: like a guy that we might need to talk about
Speaker 1: in the draft show as one of the top two
Speaker 1: or three. You will and his name again, Drew Locke,
Speaker 1: Drew lock Them. Does he remind you of anybody you've scene?
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. He's God. No, he made
Speaker 1: the right decision. He came back for his SATH year.
Speaker 1: Gabert made the big mistake because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: times last year where they were throwing to spots and
Speaker 1: I think the best thing that's happened to him is
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley got there and they're playing more of a
Speaker 1: pro style. Author Gabert may have made the right decision
Speaker 1: because if he stayed in school, he may have been
Speaker 1: exposed and he may not have been a first round
Speaker 1: and that might have been that. Well, the scout should
Speaker 1: have seen it. I saw it, you know when he
Speaker 1: got remember that got to the NFL and he yes,
Speaker 1: he is. Okay, that's some scene. There's some good quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this got a first he's got a first round arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here he better. I mean, he's fortunate he's coming
Speaker 1: out now because after we talked to Gil Brandt about
Speaker 1: the Oregon quarterback and then I saw him play. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's like six six sixty seven
Speaker 1: and he runs and he got an arm. Meanwhile, my
Speaker 1: five six first round draft pick quarterback Kylie plays at TCU.
Speaker 1: We see if the defense gets turned around. All right, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: red Skins Thursday Night Football last night, Denver, all over
Speaker 1: Arizona and speaking of first round draft pick quarterbacks, Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen did not have the best of days. But kind
Speaker 1: of thought that guy was Matt Ryan when he was
Speaker 1: coming out. He looks far from Matt Ryan with the
Speaker 1: way they're playing right now. I didn't expect Arizona to
Speaker 1: be that bad. Yeah, I know they changed coaches and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, but that's maybe replacing their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Is that the that was the narrative time out of
Speaker 1: the game. You know what, that's a new coach. Well,
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, that's a new coach. And one and done.
Speaker 1: Mickey over there, I don't know. But when you get
Speaker 1: beat that bad at home, I don't know what he's talking.
Speaker 1: He's talking one half and done. I can't I can't
Speaker 1: get Mickey to say anything bad about this coach. He's
Speaker 1: trying to fire Zona's guy. This team that bad in
Speaker 1: a while. When you don't have an offensive line, that's
Speaker 1: a struggle. That just brings us to Cowboys Redskins. And
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of offensive lines here, one that,
Speaker 1: as you know, with the Cowboys played much better last
Speaker 1: week and maybe hitting a stride as we hit mid season.
Speaker 1: And then of course Bill Callahan and his bunching running game.
Speaker 1: Moses over there. It's a great nickname he created for
Speaker 1: him a long time ago. I like Bill as a coach.
Speaker 1: It has been with him a couple of places. Everywhere
Speaker 1: he goes, they seem to run the ball. Well. Now
Speaker 1: Peterson is running like a guy who's not thirty three.
Speaker 1: Every other week. It's incredible, Yeah, it is. It's been
Speaker 1: an every other week proposition for them, which makes you
Speaker 1: wonder when they lose. It's funny. When they lose, it's
Speaker 1: he doesn't get a hundred yards, but when they win,
Speaker 1: you know, he seems to get under yards and at
Speaker 1: thirty three, maybe it isn't every other week proposition, which
Speaker 1: bodes well for the Cowboys this week because he has
Speaker 1: ninety eight last week or something like that. Yeah, running
Speaker 1: hard though, yeah, quick first. Yeah, see, that's what I
Speaker 1: worry about. I worry about you guys. We we see.
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins, I know Mickey'll probably go through
Speaker 1: the injury report. Redskins are really beat up at receiver.
Speaker 1: There's a good chance that they're not going to have
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder for this game again. Yeah, and there's a
Speaker 1: and there's a chance they might not have Paul Richardson either,
Speaker 1: which is like they're two primary now there. If you
Speaker 1: look at their team, their number one receiver is the
Speaker 1: running back Chris Thompson. Their number two they didn't have
Speaker 1: last right, and their number two receiver is Jordan Reid
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, so this is a team that's offensively
Speaker 1: challenged when it comes How many times have we've seen
Speaker 1: the Redskins when we play and it's been over there
Speaker 1: and it's been like, geez, you gotta worry about this
Speaker 1: guy and this guy and this guy and this guy.
Speaker 1: You know, all those receivers that they've had for all
Speaker 1: those years in the Carson back, in the jay Tana Moss, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shan Jackson, I mean Richardson, Yeah, Paul Richardson banged up
Speaker 1: though he's got he's got some shoulder practiced all week, yeah,
Speaker 1: neither shoulder and knee, crowder hand practice all week. And
Speaker 1: Richardson's they're leading wide receiver, yeah, with sixteen catches. Sound.
Speaker 1: Richards has never done much for me, even coming out.
Speaker 1: He just a speed guy, but he just you're just
Speaker 1: kind of were hoping that he would have one of
Speaker 1: those eighty catch seasons and it just hadn't materialized. I
Speaker 1: just he just hadn't done much more. And I didn't
Speaker 1: expect much either from this. This is going to be
Speaker 1: the challenge for the Cowboys defense if if if we
Speaker 1: can go that direction a little bit. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're playing with a lot You're playing with a checkdown
Speaker 1: back that can make some plays. You're playing with a
Speaker 1: real running back that can run despite being thirty three
Speaker 1: years old. But you're also playing with a back. If
Speaker 1: Thompson plays, you're playing with that back that they can
Speaker 1: flip the ball to. But now you've got to cover
Speaker 1: a bunch of tight ends. You know, you got to
Speaker 1: cover the Jordan reads and you got to cover the
Speaker 1: Vernon Davises and stuff. Marinelli said yesterday this is the
Speaker 1: best tight end combo that he's had to deal with. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see he got hurt, yeah early in that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been it's yeah, I'm trying to think though, Giants, Giants,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram a little bit. But two different guys can
Speaker 1: beat you. You know they haven't dealt with that yet.
Speaker 1: Forget Seattle's tight ends. Um, it's not Jimmy Graham, I
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah. Detroit, Detroit. Yeah, that's that's been kind
Speaker 1: of a see Houston. I mean, Ryan Griffin had all them,
Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin. See, that's what I want to get to.
Speaker 1: Are you worried a little bit mickey about that? You
Speaker 1: didn't really cover Ryan Griffin all that well? And now
Speaker 1: you're having to play against tight ends that are capable
Speaker 1: of catching the ball down the field. I'm trying to remember, Um,
Speaker 1: how they played that? Is it? You know, did they
Speaker 1: cover it with did it Heath? Heath was taking on see,
Speaker 1: I think they zone the tight ends against Houston. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember. Yeah, when did Heath get hurt because
Speaker 1: he missed part of second second game? It was the
Speaker 1: Houston game he got he got the shoulder in the
Speaker 1: in the in that game when somebody who ran into him.
Speaker 1: He was on the goal line when they had the
Speaker 1: collision on the goal line. Yeah, yeah, it looked like
Speaker 1: a ball offensive penalty. Honestly, Yeah, Detroit, I think it
Speaker 1: was Houston came back the next I can't remember what
Speaker 1: I had for breakfast this morning, asking questions you can
Speaker 1: remember nineteen seventy four, though I can't remember nineteen sevent
Speaker 1: four that scarred me for life. But but do you worry, okay,
Speaker 1: do you worry about though, how they're gonna play these
Speaker 1: tight ends? Are you worried that? Okay? Is it gonna
Speaker 1: be Heath and Frazier and would single high or is
Speaker 1: it gonna be Vandersch or gonna be Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: clarification on he got hurt against Detroit, carry on Johnson,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, because I'm sure played eighty snaps against Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe and Flower Mount's losing his mind right now because
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember the Detroit game. Okay, yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: all run together, all right, continue on, but no, the
Speaker 1: tight ends. Yeah, you know that seems like the best
Speaker 1: avenue for what the Redskins. How they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: move the ball if they don't get things going in
Speaker 1: the running game. Are we concerned about hey, the outside,
Speaker 1: We're not worried about the receivers so much. We worried
Speaker 1: about what Washington can they beat you just throwing the
Speaker 1: ball to the tight end Xavier Woods. That's what they
Speaker 1: did last week against Carolina. Yeah, I mean that touchdown
Speaker 1: to Vernon Davis. They split Jordan read out. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: they was single high, right, Alex Smith looked off the
Speaker 1: safety and there goes and they were confused. It was
Speaker 1: just like it was time. It was a three tight
Speaker 1: end formation. There you go, and they were the Carolina
Speaker 1: was confused and Will McClay broke it down. You'll see
Speaker 1: it on the Jason Garrett Show. This yeah, watching and
Speaker 1: Luke Luke Keekley is trying to get everybody lined up
Speaker 1: right in Carolina defense. And no one took Vernon Davis
Speaker 1: because they were they were thirteen personnel, Yeah, thirteen personnel.
Speaker 1: They let Jordan Read out wide right, and they and
Speaker 1: Alex Smith looked off the safety who was going to
Speaker 1: cover read. Vernon Davis was left wide open up the
Speaker 1: scene for a touchdowns hand a fourteen nothing lead, and
Speaker 1: Washington goes on to I think if you had to
Speaker 1: see a concern about this offense, it's not so much
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen at wide receiver, it's what's going to
Speaker 1: happen potentially at tight end. Well, they'll get lined up
Speaker 1: this week because out there, there you go. You'll get
Speaker 1: to the injury report. Sure, why not. We'll start with
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee. There you go for practice fully, first time full.
Speaker 1: So my understanding is unless something happens today or overnight
Speaker 1: last night, that he's probably good to go and they'll
Speaker 1: get back to their three man rotation. Obviously they're not
Speaker 1: going to play him eighty snaps, but there'll be a
Speaker 1: rotation between those three guys at the two positions. So
Speaker 1: that's good news for the Cowboys. De Marcus Lawrence got
Speaker 1: back into practice full eight, and so did Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: So from an injury standpoint, that's the good news. The
Speaker 1: bad news is they will be without Tavon Austin and
Speaker 1: depending on what he decides, and it sounds like he's
Speaker 1: leaning against surgery. He had been to Philadelphia. I think
Speaker 1: they were recommending surgery. The Cowboy doctors were not. And
Speaker 1: so five to six weeks probably for him that he
Speaker 1: would be out if he didn't have surgery. If he
Speaker 1: has surgeries, probably on IR we've we've talked about pairing
Speaker 1: this thing down. Do you have to go get somebody
Speaker 1: for Tavon Austin? Are we going to carry him for
Speaker 1: five weeks? And who would you go get? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean go get his off the practice. You've got to
Speaker 1: buy or go or go or Noah Brown. You start
Speaker 1: to clock on Noah Brown. You gotta buy next week.
Speaker 1: So that helps you in terms of you're not missing
Speaker 1: a game there that's one week down. If it's five weeks,
Speaker 1: then yeah, it's four games without him, and I think
Speaker 1: you could carry him. You know you've already I r
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams, who suspended, by the way, that was announced
Speaker 1: yesterday three games, which doesn't affect anything as far as
Speaker 1: the roster. It affects his pocket book, right, he doesn't
Speaker 1: get played him. And I figured I figured he misses
Speaker 1: two hundred and five thousand dollars per game a game,
Speaker 1: six fifteen total. Yeah. Now, the good news that there's
Speaker 1: a buy in there, so I'm assuming he gets paid
Speaker 1: for the buy Yeah right, yes, so well, okay, so
Speaker 1: this week contract this week and then they paid two
Speaker 1: other game than two other games he misses. Cheez, that's
Speaker 1: not good for that kid. I think you could carry
Speaker 1: him right now. I mean I think I think the
Speaker 1: idea would be too. You look at this injury report
Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of guys on it, but
Speaker 1: they're all practicing, so this is some of the healthiest
Speaker 1: looks they've been so far. Knock on wood, knock on
Speaker 1: Brian's forehead right there. Yeah, I think you can carry him.
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler is signed to be part of this thing, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point are we going to see
Speaker 1: him or not? I mean, I'm ready for Mickey to
Speaker 1: tell to shut up about Bryce Butler. But you don't
Speaker 1: have to put Oh no, never mind. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: Williams was already on. Yeah, William sorry, Austin becomes the
Speaker 1: inactive guy instead of Bryce Butler. Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had not still have five guys. Yeah, at some
Speaker 1: point he's gonna get more than the Harold Mary snap
Speaker 1: right or maybe not. I don't know. They signed him
Speaker 1: for the Terrence Williams insurance really and now here's Austin
Speaker 1: hurt too. All right on Tavon, if you did decide
Speaker 1: to I r him with the with the thinking that
Speaker 1: he could come back, Okay, be one of your guys
Speaker 1: you bring back eight weeks, would take you through the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia game and he would be Williams. You could have
Speaker 1: him the last three games, three games and playoffs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis, Tampa Bay and at the JOm the like
Speaker 1: I kind of like you know that kind of show.
Speaker 1: It was blink guy, right, at least one that'd be
Speaker 1: three playoff games or four that would be one bill. Okay,
Speaker 1: first round by. But if they if they if they
Speaker 1: did that first round by, that's good. Yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 1: they did that though the rams A guy. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you, if you had to fill a spot, what
Speaker 1: would you rather have, Noah Brown or Lance Lenoris? Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go on the noise. No, it's a fair no,
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. I think that's a fair question.
Speaker 1: That's a fair question. Say it again. Okay, I'm interested
Speaker 1: Noah Brown or Lance Lenor. Yeah, it's a fair question.
Speaker 1: I know he's just he's not a fan of Nover
Speaker 1: and what but no, think about what training camp? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: are you a fan of He doesn't want to around
Speaker 1: on this football team to worry about the big Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm maybe this is the weird me. But he does
Speaker 1: make plays in practice. I will give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: Which one Lance lenoors game? Do we always see the
Speaker 1: plays when he gets to play? That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Make you kill me on He's time to find out
Speaker 1: he had a hell of a game like that. It's
Speaker 1: time to find we're not finding out about Michael gallop
Speaker 1: or exactly, thank you very much. As soon as he
Speaker 1: went across the table with me at that one, I'm like, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you haven't found out about Michael Gallup yet either, have you? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean at least he's on the fifty three. Yeah
Speaker 1: for one week. I understand what you're saying. And here's
Speaker 1: another thing about it. They signed Bryce right and and
Speaker 1: some people's Brian said like why not Lance, Well you
Speaker 1: have a five eight Cole Beasley, you have a five
Speaker 1: eight Tavon Austin and then too. Now if if Austin's
Speaker 1: out of the picture for a few weeks, maybe it
Speaker 1: makes a little more sense. Again, though, I ask, why
Speaker 1: is Bryce Butler on the team if you're not going
Speaker 1: to use him. Why this is a guy that has
Speaker 1: shown he can make plays with Dak Prescott as your quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just like to see him at some point. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to wonder if it's going to happen though. Was
Speaker 1: he healthy enough last week because he would have been Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's that, but I mean even something went on there
Speaker 1: and we just haven't had it figured out yet. Mickey,
Speaker 1: something's going on. I'm screaming for the guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: the hugest fan of his, but I understand a big
Speaker 1: body guy that will go get it. They made him
Speaker 1: inactive for the game, but Jason said he could have played.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a numbers thing. They felt better
Speaker 1: about receiver. I guess the whole game. Yeah, well they
Speaker 1: kept they kept him up, but I guess that was
Speaker 1: for an emergency situation. Okay, who do you want to
Speaker 1: play the Tavon Austin role this week? That's a good question.
Speaker 1: Well I think you Okay, can Micky, tell me what
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin's role is. No, I was gonna say, you
Speaker 1: created a role for him specifically, But if there is
Speaker 1: there a receiver on the team, does that have to
Speaker 1: have a role. Well, is there a receiver on the
Speaker 1: team who can do some of the same stuff potentially
Speaker 1: that Tavon Austin. I'm talking the jet sweep stuff and
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where you're the stuff that you've
Speaker 1: incorporated into the offense. Is there some other wide receiver
Speaker 1: who can take on that role where you're not just
Speaker 1: eliminating that now Cole Beasley only last week, whenever he's
Speaker 1: done it previously, it has if you wanted to do
Speaker 1: you have to have that in your offense. I'm getting it.
Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson, he's got the speed to do it. That's
Speaker 1: who I was thinking of. But how many jet sweeps
Speaker 1: do you run per game? Like? I'm kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's not like he's not not
Speaker 1: talking just jet sweeps, But what I would question if
Speaker 1: they're using enough. I'm waiting there. See, that's the problem
Speaker 1: I have. If you're gonna tell me, Okay, who's gonna
Speaker 1: run the jet sweep stuff? Does it really matter? Okay,
Speaker 1: how many snaps was Tavon getting? Mickey help me? Not
Speaker 1: quite twenty again? Okay, so who's the Tavon snaps? Hopefully
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop. I'm just you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: just want him to play more, right, But and then
Speaker 1: Gallup played a lot last week? Sure didn't get Tart snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's start targeting him while he's out there, if we can, please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was that? What was that about? What you question? No,
Speaker 1: that's an agreement. Tavon Austin ten to eighteen, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty three, eighteen last week, but he got hurt? All right?
Speaker 1: How about Deonte Thompson? Thompson is less thirty twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty six and last week seven
Speaker 1: seven last week for Thompson. See, this is where I'm
Speaker 1: starting to be a little because Michael Gallup had fifty
Speaker 1: nine and Hearns had fifty seven. Do you have somebody
Speaker 1: else in mind you'd rather dressed than Thompson on the
Speaker 1: forty six, I'd rather dress than Thompson. Bryce Butler, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm yes, I would argue that. Yes, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I've been arguing that much is it is? And Butler
Speaker 1: was a will participate this week in practically ask you this.
Speaker 1: I'm for paring it down, but I kind of want
Speaker 1: to see another guy that don't. They haven't gotten down
Speaker 1: to the top three. Gallop herns in Beasley, that's my three.
Speaker 1: That's my three. That's kind of the way they've been going, right,
Speaker 1: that's my three. Swains, you're tight end. Swain's my tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm Jarwin Schultz. They've got me confused on
Speaker 1: this receiver. Stay yeah, No, I'm with you. They're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, I think. And now now
Speaker 1: you have a situation where you have to juggle a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm with you on the extra snaps going
Speaker 1: to gallop though that was a pole. That was that
Speaker 1: guy crossed the way he was on that. I'm just
Speaker 1: piggybacking what he's saying. Now, they just need to throw
Speaker 1: target targeting, get them. Yeah, all right, we're just getting
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Speaker 1: I want to write tuesday. Is there any position you
Speaker 1: would like to improve at the trade deadline? Ask you this,
Speaker 1: If you'd added a wide receiver, would it matter? I
Speaker 1: mean no, seriously, I mean everybody wants you to add
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. But with the way this offense is
Speaker 1: right now, does it matter? I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1: We're still trying to figure out how we can get
Speaker 1: Michael gallupmore naps, and now we're gonna try to you know,
Speaker 1: bring in another dude. Well, I don't know about I
Speaker 1: don't know about your guys, Timeline, but everybody wants Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: I can understand that. I mean, and I how much
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm going to understand it's probably his
Speaker 1: base salary this year is not you're only paying for half. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, how much is it going to cost me
Speaker 1: to get him? Better? Not be a first round pick?
Speaker 1: See that's I'm saying. So, you know, if the if
Speaker 1: the Raiders, But let's be honest here with the way
Speaker 1: that they you know, and maybe we in the next
Speaker 1: ten games or so, you can develop some down the
Speaker 1: field throws. Maybe we see that kind of work. But
Speaker 1: can I can a one make that much difference right
Speaker 1: now with the way And I'm just asking. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be a smart a, you know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if you went out and got a guy like that,
Speaker 1: does it it's kind of help, right? It would help?
Speaker 1: It would probably if you get a guy of that caliber.
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably are drawing more attention and maybe
Speaker 1: opening things up for others. How long does it take
Speaker 1: to get a new guy incorporated in the offense in
Speaker 1: mid season as Roy Williams. Some fans just crack me
Speaker 1: up because a week ago, it's fire everybody, let's start
Speaker 1: the draft show, Let's do all that. Next Thursday, we
Speaker 1: got one, by the way, wait and they win a game.
Speaker 1: That's that's right. Bye week. Addition, and they win a game,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, let's you know, let's beef up
Speaker 1: for the playoff run. You know, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out. I'm just trying to figure out if if
Speaker 1: I went in and gave if I took Mickey's second
Speaker 1: round pick and went and got a wide receiver, would
Speaker 1: he make that much of a difference, you know? Or
Speaker 1: or is there you know defensively? I don't think I
Speaker 1: would try and improve anything. How smart is the guy?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Yeah, see, because you're gonna pick it
Speaker 1: up quick. There's no bye week unless you do. My my,
Speaker 1: my guy, Michael Lombardi, who I've worked with and was
Speaker 1: best man in my wedding and all that he told me,
Speaker 1: and he told really America in the world that he
Speaker 1: wasn't sure he's hearing that. Michael Galupua, we didn't like
Speaker 1: Michael Gaup that Amari Cooper really didn't like football, but
Speaker 1: there's been guys that played well in this league that
Speaker 1: didn't like football. Not trying to hurt him for that,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to say, gosh, if why is Gredon
Speaker 1: getting rid of him? You know, I texted John the
Speaker 1: other day, just told him to keep his head up.
Speaker 1: And you know, he just says, hey, I just need
Speaker 1: to keep building this team and I and I wanted
Speaker 1: to text back, John, you're tearing your team down. You know.
Speaker 1: I think John just wants his type of players. You know,
Speaker 1: if he's not Gruden's type player, then I don't want him. Okay,
Speaker 1: now Mickey out say this, please before you go that route. John.
Speaker 1: John is rough on personnel. That's all right, John, John
Speaker 1: Will John will look at you the eyes. And he
Speaker 1: didn't say he couldn't play though, No, he didn't. And
Speaker 1: you know, but it surprises me that John. And John's
Speaker 1: usually really good with his wide receivers. He's really a
Speaker 1: good usually a very good evaluator of wide receivers. Now,
Speaker 1: I always remember him about Isaac Bruce. He told all
Speaker 1: of us in Green Bay. He goes, you guys are
Speaker 1: idiots for not wanting this guy. He's he is a
Speaker 1: legitimate player, and we're all like, yeah, right, John, right, John.
Speaker 1: But he's had he's had his he's has moments. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know why he's getting rid
Speaker 1: of him, Mickey. I just think he wants his own
Speaker 1: guys and and but he can't do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep losing games. I mean, that's one thing
Speaker 1: to tear things down, but there's no sense getting rid
Speaker 1: of a building block, you think. Can you know Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson tore things down in eighty nine, but he didn't
Speaker 1: get with Michael Irvin did. Yeah, we had terrible teams
Speaker 1: though here, Mickey didn't We Well, they have a terrible
Speaker 1: team there now. Well, there's no bigger building block than
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. They've already gotten rid of him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was a financial thing, right, Okay, they were sat
Speaker 1: across the table for me and said just keep him
Speaker 1: and make him show up. Well I would have, but
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't figure he was going to show up,
Speaker 1: so they said, okay, let's get something for him. I
Speaker 1: don't know, he had two first rounds for him, right,
Speaker 1: So if I got two first rounds, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Seattle got two first rounds for Joey Galloway.
Speaker 1: They probably stripped over themselves. Stop in that trade. No
Speaker 1: more first round picks for wide receivers somebody else doesn't
Speaker 1: want it. Just threw up in my mouth. And to
Speaker 1: your point about getting a wide receiver acclimated very quickly,
Speaker 1: keep in mind, the Cowboys have four games in the
Speaker 1: span of eighteen days in the month of November, starting
Speaker 1: with a Monday night game against Tennessee and stopped making
Speaker 1: a good point of to day. And if this guy
Speaker 1: doesn't want to live here for four weeks, then you're
Speaker 1: wasting your time. And next year it's fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: I would rather take Mickey's second round pick and try
Speaker 1: and find a wide receiver in the draft. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really would. And I'm usually that, well, go for it, Mickey,
Speaker 1: go for it, which you know. Yeah, that brings up
Speaker 1: another point. I heard Solomon Wilcot's on NFL serious, he
Speaker 1: pronounced his name right, very nice radio driving in getting
Speaker 1: on Jerry Jones today because of not draft, because of
Speaker 1: his comment about not having a number one wide receiver
Speaker 1: here for several weeks, and he blamed him for not
Speaker 1: having one and any well, he blamed him for the GM.
Speaker 1: He blamed him for not taking Calvin Ridley in the
Speaker 1: draft and not taking Courtland Sutton. It was on the
Speaker 1: heels of Courtland Sutton catching a touchdown. Now, okay, we
Speaker 1: worked the draft show really hard and Courtland Sutton was
Speaker 1: a guy that we were right, and hey, we knew
Speaker 1: that they loved him. He did a workout really the
Speaker 1: day before the draft out here on our fields. Right now.
Speaker 1: We was eating in the training Tam Mickey was Mickey
Speaker 1: was elbowing him to trying to get the chowder. That's
Speaker 1: what Solomon was saying. He with their SMU He's right
Speaker 1: in your backyard. Okay, yeah, but if you look at
Speaker 1: you sometimes, and this is where you have to be careful.
Speaker 1: You talk about trading up for guys, and people will
Speaker 1: hold you up for picks. They will hold you up,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole idea. Yeah, they could have taken
Speaker 1: in Ridley. Absolutely. Where did where did Courtland Southern for
Speaker 1: the Broncos at forty one? What was it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Dallas was in that position where they were
Speaker 1: in the middle of the draft and they're trying to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: how much is it gonna Now they had picks, They
Speaker 1: had enough picks to maybe work that out, but we
Speaker 1: don't know what Denver was trying to, you know at
Speaker 1: forty Yeah, because the Colts had to hear a draft show.
Speaker 1: I love this. Colts had two picks ahead of you,
Speaker 1: I mean two that they one of you thought you
Speaker 1: can maybe trade, But you don't know what calls were made.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have very well tried to make
Speaker 1: a trade to go. So Psalma needs to be careful
Speaker 1: about that because maybe Dallas was trying to, like hell
Speaker 1: to get up there. But then again, you don't draft
Speaker 1: Connor Williams and they were or if he's talking about
Speaker 1: taking him in the first round. Have you watched Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh play. That's that right there. You're all your arguments
Speaker 1: about me wanting to take the safety from Florida State
Speaker 1: and everything else. They made the right choice with Layton Vanderesh.
Speaker 1: That was the absolute right choice to make at that time.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, all right, it's Layton Vanderesh nineteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: feel okay, feel all right? Yeah, Layton Vanderesh has played.
Speaker 1: If retracted, if they redrafted Layton vander Esh would be
Speaker 1: maybe a top twelve pick, they probably wouldn't have gotten him.
Speaker 1: He's he's had more, he's had He's been more productive
Speaker 1: than the guy the Bears took at eight who everybody
Speaker 1: loved from Georgia, that one Smith. And there were guys
Speaker 1: in the room that thought you could take Gallop in
Speaker 1: the second round. He was that good of a value.
Speaker 1: Ye there, Yeah, so you get him in the third round.
Speaker 1: We keep going back to him and going back to
Speaker 1: talking about Nicky's gonna get him going, talking about going
Speaker 1: training for a receiver. Maybe they I know that they
Speaker 1: feel like he's a guy that could break out down
Speaker 1: the stretch potentially if you give him time and you
Speaker 1: let him keep I talked to Cole Beasley about him
Speaker 1: this week and he said, he's just gotta if he's
Speaker 1: not thinking, if he's playing aggressive, he's trying to show
Speaker 1: that he's putting in the work. He's it's gonna come
Speaker 1: for him, and the opportunities have to come for him.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, maybe you just keep building this
Speaker 1: thing and hoping that he breaks out as the season
Speaker 1: goes on. That's what I've thought all along on him,
Speaker 1: and with most rookies with that kind of talent. It's
Speaker 1: so difficult the first half of your rookie season. And
Speaker 1: I was looking at the second half of this rookie season.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see greater strides from Michael Gallup than than
Speaker 1: what we see earlier, just because of the astiration, getting
Speaker 1: getting accustomed to it. You know, he's a bright guy.
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna get it. It just has to happen.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, guys. I do not, And
Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the better receivers coming
Speaker 1: out of this draft. And that's why I'm with Mickey.
Speaker 1: I have hope, you know, I have hoped, you know,
Speaker 1: find a way if you're gonna get him to it early,
Speaker 1: get him a ball early, get to him in the middle,
Speaker 1: and get it to him late. You know, maybe that kid.
Speaker 1: Let that kid feel some confidence in making some plays.
Speaker 1: But I just think he had to temper your expectations
Speaker 1: right off the bat with him, just because Yeah, I
Speaker 1: sure read for him too much. Ridley who took him Atlanta, Atlanta.
Speaker 1: His numbers are not bad, Mickey. If you look at
Speaker 1: the touchdown six touchdowns. Yeah, he's got twenty two receptions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's played well, and the quarterback, he gets him the ball,
Speaker 1: did you take twenty two receptions? Because you don't know
Speaker 1: if they would be six touchdowns somewhere else. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're happy with his development. I would imagine they are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Calvin Ruley is a good player. Let's not him and
Speaker 1: DJ Moore at Carolina And I mean that hold that
Speaker 1: middle of that trap. Well yeah, it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: you've got several different needs and you gotta you have
Speaker 1: to make a decision. Okay, just like last year. I
Speaker 1: love Juju Smith Schuster, but I don't blame the Cowboys
Speaker 1: for taking Cheeta a Woozier with your second round pick.
Speaker 1: They could have taken Juju went like the next pick
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. But that's an important position, cornerback. And Cheeto's
Speaker 1: not a disappointment at all. No any by the way, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you worry about Cheeto in this game a little bit? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder, like how long is this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: ankle supposed ankle getna last Yeah, I didn't mean it's
Speaker 1: derail there, Bill. I was just thinking, I've heard the name,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, because I'm gonna write about something day
Speaker 1: in final thoughts about about that. I'm a little I'm
Speaker 1: a little concerned that maybe you know, he's he's kind
Speaker 1: of coming back slowly from this, but you know, they've
Speaker 1: got the buy and all that coming up, and so
Speaker 1: I don't know they take that approach where they take
Speaker 1: that approach because you know, you got Brown and Lewis
Speaker 1: played pretty well for you last week, and again here's
Speaker 1: a here's a you know, it's just as soon as
Speaker 1: it comes on my mouth, they you know, they they
Speaker 1: that this group has a challenge, their their challenged it receiver.
Speaker 1: You know, do you do you go ahead and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we can we can live in two weeks. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can live with Brown and Lewis and Jones and you know,
Speaker 1: and and hope like hell will cover everybody else. And
Speaker 1: he's kind of in your back pocket in case somebody's hurt.
Speaker 1: But it's such an important game that it's a huge
Speaker 1: game that it's just like their approach with Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: People say, yeah, okay, you can buy two more weeks
Speaker 1: if he doesn't play well. Now, if you're well enough
Speaker 1: to play, you're playing against Washington, you're well enough. If
Speaker 1: you're not, if you're playing, yeah, he's good to go.
Speaker 1: Play him. Shun Lee's an NFC e's killer. Yeah, he plays,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean these games. This is a game
Speaker 1: where he tips a pass on fourth down and you know,
Speaker 1: and then they get an interception or he some instinctual play.
Speaker 1: They try and run, and they try and run a sweep,
Speaker 1: you know, a quick sweep. Been he's right there to
Speaker 1: tackle for minus four? What's the what's the sign in
Speaker 1: baseball when they'd have a review and they they they
Speaker 1: don't change it? Safe? Safe? Yeah, everybody, nicky just did
Speaker 1: the safe sign. If you're on the treadmill right now,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the headset off. Yeah, I'm going safe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to James in New York. You're
Speaker 1: up on Talking Cowboys. Hello James, Hey, guys, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking the call um. Awesome job this week, guys with
Speaker 1: the wible. We're talking you guys talking about the Redskins
Speaker 1: all week. I've been loving like the stories of Midi too,
Speaker 1: because I was actually down there. Don't you guys remember
Speaker 1: the two thousand and four Monday Night game when they
Speaker 1: yeah thirteen nothing in Saint Anna Moss. That was Triplett's
Speaker 1: gotten the Ring of Honor that night. That was wild. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at that game and that was the first time,
Speaker 1: you know that. I was like, wow, this is a rivalry.
Speaker 1: They really hate us here. I remember because my buddy
Speaker 1: were looking for beers in the store. I didn't you
Speaker 1: know in New York you can buy him anywhere. That
Speaker 1: is true, and it's true. Yeah, this lady hits our
Speaker 1: carriage and says, you know, we hate the Cowboys. This
Speaker 1: is westkillan I got and I was one of the
Speaker 1: Roy Williams double Star jersey and I'm like, buddy, we
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. Yeah. So it was cool.
Speaker 1: I was reminding those things about the game. As far
Speaker 1: as the thought on the game, guys, I just think
Speaker 1: they should do what they did last week. Play of
Speaker 1: their strengths, at least on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: and what that is. The play action stuff and that
Speaker 1: readoption stuff is money marks. I feel that is such
Speaker 1: a better quarterback when he's doing play action. And when
Speaker 1: they were I think there was a stat when they
Speaker 1: were over like thirty percent or something like that is
Speaker 1: passer rating. It's very high. And I just think they
Speaker 1: do those things. I think they got a great shot
Speaker 1: of winning this game, all right. Thank you and the
Speaker 1: Monday night game you're referring to was the one at Washington,
Speaker 1: which was a twenty one eighteen Cowboys win in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four one one five. Yeah, the O five
Speaker 1: which the thirteen nothing lead and Santana Moss Santana Moss
Speaker 1: twice in the last two minutes of the game to
Speaker 1: win fourteen thirteen for Washington. Like he took a smoke shot,
Speaker 1: like two yard passing, Yeah, eighty yards with it? Crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what? Hey, how about this one for something?
Speaker 1: For numbers? I know, Mickey, you like numbers. The last
Speaker 1: four times that they played Washington, they've run the ball
Speaker 1: in average of thirty five times. That's because they beat them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You know Washington, I mean Washington.
Speaker 1: I think it's better equipped to handle the run now.
Speaker 1: But the recipe to me, yeah, find a way, I mean,
Speaker 1: find a way just to physically if you can, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's you know, if the recipe is
Speaker 1: to run the football and play play action, I'm all
Speaker 1: for that. Get them big Alabama boys moving laterally. It's
Speaker 1: be a hard one today. Make them go laterally. Yep,
Speaker 1: let's go to Jim and Pasadena. Next up, I'm talking cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hello Jim, good morning man. I really appreciate your show.
Speaker 1: It's the highlight of my day. Actually, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: You weren't need to work on that life, sir, not
Speaker 1: during the season. It's all right. There you go, well said,
Speaker 1: well said that life. Love where the conversations going. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to think outside the box. If we really
Speaker 1: feel we're a receiver away from a running the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you got to give up something you love to get
Speaker 1: something you need. But we don't want to give up
Speaker 1: a first or a second next year. So how about
Speaker 1: a force in Sean Lee? Do it? I know it?
Speaker 1: Hey Bill? He said he was coming out of the box, right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, keep going right, keep going on the field,
Speaker 1: and we're winning, okay. And what is he a grooten guy?
Speaker 1: And walked about a grooten guy? And then two thousand
Speaker 1: the previous caller, two thousand and four game, that's the
Speaker 1: one that exposed Roy Williams can't play the deep ball?
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that the game you guys are
Speaker 1: talking about? I think that is absolutely right. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. And he's such a good player. Um,
Speaker 1: here's your Chris scallister tribute question. How many picks did
Speaker 1: he have in the Super Bowl his rookie season and
Speaker 1: what team did they play? Thanks? Guys, it was the Giants, right?
Speaker 1: That had been the Giants? Christmascallister was Baltimore? That that
Speaker 1: had been Giants? Right. I don't know how many interceptions
Speaker 1: that they were? So Carrie Collins was so bad that day.
Speaker 1: Look it up, Bill that to two thousand super Bowl? Right,
Speaker 1: it was two thousand Super Bowl. I think I'm right
Speaker 1: about that. I'm gonna I'm gonna just guess he was
Speaker 1: an MVP. That was he? Who's at Chris McAllister. I
Speaker 1: think it was somebody he lost. It might have been
Speaker 1: Jamal Lewis, Jamal Lewis, she hadn't running all over. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I think that was I think that
Speaker 1: was a game. I think I'm talking about the two
Speaker 1: thousand Super Bowl. I think Chris McAllister played another super
Speaker 1: Bowl because it was twelve years between super Bowls. I
Speaker 1: think I think he was still in the Ravens And no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it. Yeah, what was that? It was Tripp
Speaker 1: Can't was the quarterback? Yeah, yeah, but he but Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Carry Collins was the quarterback the bad quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: he was a bad quarterback that day from the Giants.
Speaker 1: He was a good quarterback against Minnesota two weeks before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a bad quarterback that should have gone to
Speaker 1: the backup. Yeah. Oh I got the video instead of
Speaker 1: come on, Bill, That's what you get for a bunch
Speaker 1: of old guys working on a show. Sorry, Robin, you know,
Speaker 1: can't get the video to work, can't do anything. They're good?
Speaker 1: Why did the video come up? Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this though, okay outside the box thought, Yeah, trade and
Speaker 1: Sean Lee? You sound insane? Yeah? I like that. Can
Speaker 1: I just say this, I am so sick. And I
Speaker 1: love our fans and everybody who follows us, but I
Speaker 1: am so sick of the mention every time I tweet
Speaker 1: about Sean Lee practicing this week? Don't need him? Suit
Speaker 1: him down. Give me a freaking break, Dude, Mickey looks
Speaker 1: like he wants to trade Sean Mike. He's My rhetorical
Speaker 1: question would be what happens if one of those guys
Speaker 1: get hurt? Yeah, who's who's got? It's kinda Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: who are you going in there with? Yeah? Because there's
Speaker 1: no Joe Thomas probably for three three more weeks. I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll probably say that who's going to go
Speaker 1: in there when Sean Lee gets hurt? Well, Layton Vanders don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think some people realize they were doing a
Speaker 1: rotation before he got hurt. They were playing all three
Speaker 1: of these guys, and all three of them will play.
Speaker 1: And I talked to Marinelli about this yesterday and he said, really,
Speaker 1: if you extrapolated, there's a big word out for sixteen games.
Speaker 1: By spreading out the snaps, you're cutting down maybe two
Speaker 1: games worth of reps in terms of keeping guys fresher,
Speaker 1: keeping Sean fresher if you've got him for the rest
Speaker 1: of the shore. So that's the mindset. Yeah, everybody should
Speaker 1: benefit from it. Don't give me this progress stopping. But
Speaker 1: John Lee still the best player, defensive player on your
Speaker 1: team other than Table's healthy. Yeah, no, I totally it's
Speaker 1: crazy to act to think like that. It's but his
Speaker 1: argument or his point was, you're gonna have to trade
Speaker 1: something to get something. I'm really not talking about the caller.
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, he's thinking outside the box. That's cool.
Speaker 1: It's more about people thinking. He shouldn't play even though
Speaker 1: he's healthy. It's just insanity to me. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: have to make a decision about Sean Lee at the
Speaker 1: end of this at the end of the season. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's still in the trek. Still you're still still going
Speaker 1: with that? Oh yeah, all right, I like it. If
Speaker 1: that's if you guys are gonna ride with that. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna fault you for he's one of your best
Speaker 1: defensive players. I'm not Yeah, I'm not going down that
Speaker 1: road at this point. He's still your defensive captain. But
Speaker 1: I'm not. Look, the linebackers are playing really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're playing out standing. Bill, How are you doing over there?
Speaker 1: Kind of figure out wipe right now? Carry Collins through
Speaker 1: four interceptions in that Super Bowl. I'm trying to cra
Speaker 1: cow Strap two. Maybe can you go to the box score? Bill? Well,
Speaker 1: how don't we go to pa again? You know? All right?
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Speaker 1: He didn't, he wasn't. Ray Lewis was the MVA. Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis was MVP. Yeah, it was one. We're still looking
Speaker 1: at one. He had one? Yeah, Stark said one six
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Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige and and n in Sync. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: that was what they used to do ensemble after they
Speaker 1: walked Its Way with in Sync and Brittany and Dellie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. One of the best ones. How about
Speaker 1: the national anthem? Who It's Tampa. Most famous national anthem
Speaker 1: was probably Whitney Houston and that was in Tampa. Bload out.
Speaker 1: That actually just sob the back Streets boys. You're right kid,
Speaker 1: back Street Boy, back Street Boys. We did the national
Speaker 1: anthem and in Sync got to do the halftime show.
Speaker 1: Who actually boys? Any trivia is your man? Yeah? Music
Speaker 1: when it's music. That man's been all over the world. Yes,
Speaker 1: he has performed all over the world. All right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Parcels did the coin Toss by the Way from Way
Speaker 1: with Marcus Allen, Otis Anderson, Tom Flores and Bill Parcel.
Speaker 1: That was the Hall of Fame class was that former. No, no,
Speaker 1: you just took two guys from each team. I guess Oh,
Speaker 1: there you go, right, there you go. Who were they again? Oh? No?
Speaker 1: Why was Tom Flores? No, that's not right. It must
Speaker 1: be the Hall of Fame. How did we get Parcels
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? He didn't go to the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, that's right. He wasn't done coaching kind of coach.
Speaker 1: So why would they have been What would they doing there?
Speaker 1: You forget two thousand and three to six, Hi didn't too,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what when is he throwing the coins? Okay,
Speaker 1: so tell me why those guys were doing it? Then?
Speaker 1: What were the names? Again? Well you could talk to Mickey,
Speaker 1: yeah or not? Marcus Allen, Otis Anderson, Tom Flores, and
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels. Okay? Was it was a super Okay? Wait,
Speaker 1: Otis Anderson and Bill Parcels because Tupa Bay Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: There's Tampa Bay Super Bowls, that Tampa Super Bowls. Tom
Speaker 1: Floy's coached the Raiders. Marcus Allen, I believe was the MVP. Parcels.
Speaker 1: Parcels and I think the wide I think the Gary
Speaker 1: Anderson fuel Gold was in Tampa. The women they're talking
Speaker 1: about hypothetical. Yeah, thanks, coach, because parcels were that sweater
Speaker 1: and it was about ninety degrees probably, yes, yeah, that
Speaker 1: the blue sweater and he's up you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's they all had something to do with
Speaker 1: previous Tampa Super Bowls. There you go, all right, good,
Speaker 1: that makes them a lot of sense, right, ye, not
Speaker 1: that this show makes a lot of sense. But Okay,
Speaker 1: there was a great tweet this morning from Bob Toomas.
Speaker 1: Think about what you're saying here, a great, great tweet.
Speaker 1: It was a great tweet our statman b Statman, Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio, Bob Thomas talking about second half drives for
Speaker 1: Cowboys opponents. Okay, now I gotta find the tweet. Why
Speaker 1: did I break it up without having the tweet? A well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he brought it up because the Redskins cannot
Speaker 1: score points in the second half. That's true. They only
Speaker 1: have twenty four of them. They got twenty four over
Speaker 1: six games. It's right. Okay, my math tells me that
Speaker 1: they've been. They've been. That's right. They had them five. Sorry,
Speaker 1: so that's five points. Check Out check out what Bob
Speaker 1: tweeted out this morning about the Cowboys defense holding opponents
Speaker 1: to an average of one minute, forty seven second drive time,
Speaker 1: three and a half plays, and five yards on the
Speaker 1: opening drive of the second half of the six games
Speaker 1: so far this year, they've resulted in four punts and
Speaker 1: two fumbles. Yeah. In fact, opponents haven't scored on the
Speaker 1: opening drive of either half. Okay, So I did my
Speaker 1: little research this morning. Remember last year, okay, Cowboys had
Speaker 1: so many problems in the second half of games. They
Speaker 1: were awful. Okay, and everyone's talking about halftime adjustments whatever,
Speaker 1: least for three games in a row. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: this was my research this morning on the opening drives
Speaker 1: of the second half. All right. In eight games last season,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys yielded scoring drives on the opening possession of
Speaker 1: the second half. Opponents averaged six minutes, sixteen seconds, eleven
Speaker 1: plays and seventy four yards, six touchdowns and two field
Speaker 1: goals on the opening drive of the second half of
Speaker 1: those eight games. Geez, does that mean opening like that
Speaker 1: first possession for the opponent for the third quarter? The
Speaker 1: first Garrett takes the ball and they get the ball
Speaker 1: to start a second of the opponents first the opponent's
Speaker 1: first possession of the third quarter, I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: scare me out of it, right there, those numbers would
Speaker 1: scare me out of it. Worked out good for me.
Speaker 1: But but no, that's not the first drive. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the opponents first. But at least make them play
Speaker 1: the second position, right, It has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: deferring or anything like six touchdowns, six touchdowns and two
Speaker 1: field goals. So half of the games last year, on
Speaker 1: the opening drive of the second half, the opponents got
Speaker 1: six touchdowns and two field goals in eight games there
Speaker 1: the average drive time was six sixteen seventy four yards
Speaker 1: in eleven places. Demoralized and then but then this year,
Speaker 1: in six games so far, the average drive time one
Speaker 1: forty seven five yards on three and a half plays.
Speaker 1: They are like three and out every sing three games
Speaker 1: that that happened to last year, Sure, Atlanta, Philadelphia the
Speaker 1: Chargers exactly three in a row right there. In fact,
Speaker 1: they had four straight games Kansas City, Atlanta, Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: the Chargers. The opening drive of the second half resulted
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, Kansas City going sixty two yards and
Speaker 1: nine plays, Atlanta seventy five and eleven plays, Philadelphia seventy
Speaker 1: five and eight plays in the Charge of seventy seventy
Speaker 1: ten plays, which means Kansas City scored back to the
Speaker 1: back possession exact and the Cowboys won that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ye luckily. Yeah. So, and you remember in training camp, okay,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys running winsprints at the end of every practice basically,
Speaker 1: well not every practice, but that was a point of
Speaker 1: emphasis about finishing, about finishing and playing better in second
Speaker 1: half of games. That's been a point of emphasis throughout
Speaker 1: this off season, in preseason, and now on end of
Speaker 1: the season. It's pan dividends. So you're saying they already
Speaker 1: knew this, Oh yeah, that wasn't I'm thinking their analytics
Speaker 1: probably said, you know, of course we kind of knew
Speaker 1: it just watching the games last year. Yeah yeah. Or
Speaker 1: maybe they shouldn't have rested at halftime. But you know,
Speaker 1: Mickey's right about this, Washington, the second half inability to score.
Speaker 1: That's something we get to keep an eye on right there,
Speaker 1: because what you know, Dallas find a way to build
Speaker 1: a lead. Well, I know, you carry this thing in
Speaker 1: the second half, and the way they've been playing defense.
Speaker 1: Let me take it another step further. So twenty four
Speaker 1: points in the second halfs Alex Smith's quarterback rating in
Speaker 1: the second half is seventy seven point eight as opposed
Speaker 1: to one oh three nine in the first halfs Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of weather the storm with that guy. Well, okay, Mike,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it. Yeah, go for it. My key
Speaker 1: to the game is flip it around. This offense has
Speaker 1: to start faster. They've got nine points in the first
Speaker 1: half in three road games, three road losses, no touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I think in the Houston game they had it. They
Speaker 1: actually had a lead six nothing after the first quarter. Um,
Speaker 1: but they're just not finishing drives and they've got to
Speaker 1: be able to do you know, you look at what
Speaker 1: Washington was able to do against Carolina. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: They didn't see. Yeah, they didn't run a whole lot
Speaker 1: Carolina did. Didn't get to what they wanted to do
Speaker 1: because they were behind so much. So that's you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you want Doctor run more, you want
Speaker 1: to get Zeke involved, you want to do some more
Speaker 1: zone read stuff, then you better being more of a
Speaker 1: comfortable position on the scoreboard. And they're just they've got
Speaker 1: to find some kind of rhythm starting games better offensively.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they had a meeting about it. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: Dak said the team, the offense met as a group
Speaker 1: to figure out, okay, specifically on third down, what can
Speaker 1: we do to improve the communications so we function better
Speaker 1: on the road. Here here, I'll tell you what I might.
Speaker 1: I like what you said, though, did you pick the
Speaker 1: game or game pick that point. I think they're they're
Speaker 1: due for a better road performance. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: I think they've they've played Washington pretty well these last
Speaker 1: few years on the road. I think they, you know,
Speaker 1: this is their time to get a road win, something
Speaker 1: like twenty three seventeen. I like, I like what you're saying,
Speaker 1: though you gotta pick to click, um, Michael Gallup, Okay,
Speaker 1: like Michael Gallup, we're gonna get this out of We're
Speaker 1: gonna push it all the way. I like what you said.
Speaker 1: I and I think too, I like what you're talking
Speaker 1: about a road win there as well. And I feel
Speaker 1: like though the Cowboys are one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league when it comes to getting people off
Speaker 1: the field, the third, the three and outs. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're the top top four doing that, you know, And
Speaker 1: they're one of the better teams that playing on and
Speaker 1: the reason they they're so good is they play so
Speaker 1: well on first down? You know, they limit what you
Speaker 1: can do. When you talk about the run, you talk
Speaker 1: about what they do, and then they get you that
Speaker 1: long yard situation and they sick that rush on you
Speaker 1: with the blitz as well. I am. I think the
Speaker 1: one thing they have to worry about are these tight ends.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Washington could beat you just throwing
Speaker 1: the ball to the tight end. And so if they
Speaker 1: could play that part of the game, get that blitz,
Speaker 1: get the get Alex Smith's eye level down to where
Speaker 1: he's looking at the rush. I think Carolina affected him
Speaker 1: a little bit in that game, especially in the second half.
Speaker 1: I like what Dallas can do in this game. I
Speaker 1: got him winning twenty four to thirteen. I don't think
Speaker 1: Washington is going to be able to score a lot
Speaker 1: of points, but I think the Cowboys can get some
Speaker 1: of the things like you said on track and get
Speaker 1: this thing going. Twenty four thirteen Dallas and they rode
Speaker 1: win at Washington. Do you like to click Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: I think Shawn Lee is gonna make a difference in
Speaker 1: this game. I always talk about nfc'st killers. This guy
Speaker 1: right here, he is he has got the bit right
Speaker 1: clearly between his teeth. This is when it becoming one
Speaker 1: of those twelve thirteen tackle games for Shawn Lee. So
Speaker 1: here's how they shut down the tight ends. Okay, ah,
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, Jeff Heath, all right, and Cowboys twenty three
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty or three nineteen, because you you were real
Speaker 1: close to it. I was like, oh no, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go twenty seven twenty Cowboys, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: go Sean Lee. But because I'm not going Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, I'm going Layton Vander. Yeah. There
Speaker 1: we go. This room for all of them to eat.
Speaker 1: Not bad at all, and not that this has anything
Speaker 1: to do with anything in this game, but the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have won the last five times at FedEx Field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite memory from FedEx Field? You wrote a
Speaker 1: book or not? Can rfk rfk? Probably the only win
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine? Oh? Okay? Was it thirteen to three? Yep?
Speaker 1: Like that? Three? Wow? Steve Walsh. Steve Walsh, you thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna make boy you've picked out. I did, though,
Speaker 1: all set for an oh sixteen season and they won one,
Speaker 1: and then it was just a really awful. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't wish that, I wish that on anybody. I really wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be the first. Yeah. Yeah, all those
Speaker 1: years everybody covered the Cowboys, and that was my first
Speaker 1: year to cover them by myself. Okay, And so what's
Speaker 1: the story on this trip and the and the what
Speaker 1: the team is doing on going after the game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: they're going to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History,
Speaker 1: and then on Monday, they're going to the National Museum
Speaker 1: of African American History and Culture. So they're having dinner
Speaker 1: Sunday night as a team together at the American History
Speaker 1: Museum and then the African American History and Culture taking
Speaker 1: a tour through it on Monday. Well that's impressive. So
Speaker 1: staying an extra day basically during the bye week. And
Speaker 1: are you getting to go? We are getting to go
Speaker 1: to the Monday event. Yeah, we gotta work Sunday. She'll
Speaker 1: be right right Sunday, that's right. Yeah, And we'll have
Speaker 1: to figure out when we're doing Talking Cowboys next week.
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta show Monday, we gotta do all
Speaker 1: you guys being gone, so we'll figure it out, figure
Speaker 1: it out all right, we'll see it tuesday. Bill, We'll
Speaker 1: see you tuesday for sure. Okay, enjoy the game. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. This has been a production
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