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Speaker 1: You're wrong? You're wrong. I don't think that's true. But

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of soccer moms out there, Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: How much do you think potentially that five round distance

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Speaker 1: You can swim until they push you, in no doubt

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Speaker 1: also we see Aspinall can be quick early, he can

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Speaker 2: Luke, does Asperdall come in here looking to expose a

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Speaker 2: he's as solid right now as anyone in this division. Meaning,

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna Certainly, any kind of game plan

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Speaker 1: in this regard BC are like shockingly high. First of all,

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Speaker 1: How about this strike's landed permitt it seven point one

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Speaker 1: doable thing, of course, easier said than done. Because Volkov, Hello,

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Speaker 1: he lands four point eighty six strikes per minute. That's

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Speaker 1: also that's not as high as Aspenall, but again given

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Speaker 1: only absorbs two point nine five So we shouldn't lose

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Speaker 1: But in general he doesn't take a ton of abuse.

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Speaker 1: That's not a huge differential. So Aspinall's gonna need to

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Speaker 2: There's gonna have to be a brilliant execution here from Espinaal,

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Speaker 2: This is a bit what I'm saying to him, that's

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Speaker 2: He certainly looks like there's a lot more that he

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Speaker 2: hasn't shown yet because he hasn't had to yet. This

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Speaker 2: is the fight to do that again. It's just you know,

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Speaker 2: outwork him. That's what Cyril Gan did. Now. Cyril Gon's

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Speaker 2: a different type of striker of course than Aspinall, and

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Speaker 2: boxing performance out of Aspinall. Yes, I have to see

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Speaker 2: certain intangibles that we just haven't had to yet. And

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Speaker 2: And you know, if your Volkoff, I guess I'll ask you, Luke,

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Speaker 2: if you're Volkoff with those things maybe going against you,

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Speaker 2: a pro, he's been there. How does he use Aspinall's

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be First of all, that crowd is gonna

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Speaker 1: that could get really dicey. We'll see how things go.

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Speaker 1: In terms of what he can do for for Aspinall,

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Speaker 1: That will tell you a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to be in the clinch with

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Speaker 2: a kickboxer like this, Luke. He's got educated knees, He's

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Speaker 2: got a lot going for him, all right, Luke. I

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Speaker 2: take into account a lot of things when it comes

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Speaker 2: to making the pick to what are you feeling? Where's

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Speaker 2: all them UK crazy hungry fans who also love our show.

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Speaker 2: But you know, take the time to DM me and say, BC,

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Speaker 2: you idiot, are boys coming on? How do you not

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Speaker 2: see this? The odds makers see this? Would Aspinall be

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Speaker 2: a great addition to the top five title contending group

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Speaker 2: of heavyweights. Of course, he's young, he's aggressive, he's skilled.

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Speaker 2: Imagine Luke, we see Anthony, Joshua Tyson, Fury, Carl Frott.

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Speaker 2: I mean they do these stadium boxing matches, Like dude,

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Speaker 2: George Groves, Like George Groves was a respet BECKTD fighter,

428
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: But that's no like superstar on this side of the pond.

429
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: They put eighty fucking k in that stadium. Okay, when

430
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: aj comes out, it's like it's like the Rolling Stones hit.

431
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like Jesus came back to life

432
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: and is about to raise Lazarus. It's insane.

433
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: You have to believe that, you know, if COVID numbers

434
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 2: can go in the right direction, that Dana's watching that

435
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: of course, and Dana has to respect game of what.

436
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: You know, Eddie Herner is doing what Frank Warren does,

437
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 2: who he's friends with on the highest level. You know,

438
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: this is the type of guy that you know, you

439
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: could start I'm not saying that Tom Aspinall has this

440
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: like McGregor type potential, But you need players in this

441
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: scene who are title contenders and good in the UK

442
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: to then bring over your champion and do it. I

443
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: wonder if we are going to get closer to the

444
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: UFC to start to do that, if they can continue

445
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: to make guys like Espinall, like Paddy Pimblet. If he

446
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: wins this weekend, so that's certainly something to watch, but

447
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if he doesn't win here, Luke. And

448
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 2: when I add it all up in my head, the

449
00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: experience and the durability of Volkov, his jab, his hard

450
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: leg strikes and his body kicks, I think we're gonna

451
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: see a lot that we like from Aspinall. But I

452
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: think this is still the lesson that he has to

453
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: learn on the path to the top. Give me volkoff

454
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: by late round stoppage in the championship rounds, Luke, I

455
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: can't get off of that until I see it. Tom Aspinal,

456
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 2: if you can prove me wrong, do it. Your fans

457
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: will be in my DM boxed for sure. But Luke,

458
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: take the underdog here.

459
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Speaker 1: You know what. I don't hate that pick. I really

460
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: don't be see. I think that there's a lot of

461
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: people who are so high on Tom Aspinall, and with

462
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: good reason. People thinking Tom Aspinall has a very high

463
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: ceiling are totally in the right. I don't see how

464
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't think otherwise, or you could think otherwise. Excuse me,

465
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: but I'm with you, like people are sleeping on Volkov

466
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 1: a little bit man. They you know is he has

467
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: the loss of goun and you know he got finished

468
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: by Lewis at the late sort of moment there, but

469
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: he gives other heavyweights a really tough time. Still, I

470
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: am pretty high on Tom Aspinall I from I usually

471
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: go with the pick you make, which is, until I've

472
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: seen someone do it, I'm going to side with the

473
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: person who has a more impactful, you know, filled out resume.

474
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: I have a clear sense of what Volkov can or

475
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: can't do, then have a clear sense of what Aspinall

476
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: can and can't do. I'm usually that guy, and I

477
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: respect your pick. I think you're right that there are

478
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are ready to anoint tom

479
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: And if you look at his resume, has he done

480
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: it on the resume yet? No, it's not there. A

481
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: win like Volkov doesn't exist. This is him having to

482
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Speaker 1: do something he's never been tasked with doing. That being said,

483
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: from what I've seen on tape, I don't know how

484
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: he'll perform in the third, fourth and fifth round. I

485
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: am taking a leap of faith. But what I have

486
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: seen on tape tells me that this kid is actually,

487
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: I think, very very special and I think he probably

488
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: will find a way to win here. But I grant

489
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: that Volkov is no one's pushover. They are at the

490
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: UFC is saying, okay, Tom, if you want to be

491
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: something special, that campaign starts at UFC London against Volkov.

492
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: Now's the time. I'm gonna side with the britt. I

493
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: think you'll get it done. But I'm expecting a very

494
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: competitive affair.

495
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: And let's not forget they just put tig to Avasa

496
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: in the same position and your boy BC went on

497
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ and Morning Combat and whoever would have

498
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: me and said, look, I'll love me some Tuivasa. I

499
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: do not find a path to victory against Derek Lewis

500
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: that path to victory? Luke kicked me right in the dick. Okay,

501
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean they say, as.

502
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Well, at least you didn't pick Austin Vanderford and then

503
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: you know the whole thing imploded.

504
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: Right, so so some you know this is the type

505
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: of fights that are set up for God to make

506
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: the leap. Let's see if he can do it. I

507
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: like this fight. The closer we get, I love it

508
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: even more, Luke, do you know when this starts? I

509
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: didn't look that up. It's in the UK. Is this

510
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: a normal evening cards? An afternoon delight? What do we got?

511
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: I believe the main card for this one. I'll double check,

512
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: but I believe I looked at this before. I believe

513
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: the main card will start at four pm, four pm

514
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: East Coast time. I'll double check that right now. Okay,

515
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: that main card will start, that's correct, at four pm

516
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: and your prelimbs kick off at one thirty pm in

517
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: the East.

518
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Luke, this co main event is It's fantastic And

519
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: we didn't really talk about it enough on Wednesday, and

520
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's getting the love of deserves.

521
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Does anyone have a more quiet eight fight win streak

522
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: in the UFC, including every performance he's had in the octagon.

523
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: Then Arnold Allen, he's coming on, Luke. We've talked about

524
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: some of the guys he's beat to get here, and

525
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: it's impressive. We got Dan Hooker at one forty five

526
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: who stepped onto the scales with those like what type

527
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: of sunglasses did you see those, Luke? He put on

528
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: like mad Mac sunglasses or some shit. I mean he

529
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: is yoked at forty five and ready. And when you

530
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: look at the odds, the betting oddsmen are still showing

531
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker a ton of respect here. Arnold Allen minus

532
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: one fifteen by DraftKings Daniel Hooker, Dan Hooker, if you

533
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: will minus one oh five. So, Luke, Uh, no one's

534
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: getting plus money here. We're getting a plus because we're

535
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna see this theater break out. Let's talk about what

536
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker needs to do. This isn't last minute against Islam,

537
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: doubling down, trying to make magic happ and he's going

538
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: back to the drawing board, but it doesn't get any easier,

539
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: and he's got a chance really to rebound right back

540
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: to where he needs to be with a big win.

541
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: But Arnold Allen is nobody's pushover. How does Dan Hooker

542
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: do this?

543
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Luke, Dan Hooker has got to keep this on the feet. Uh,

544
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: He's got to. So why would Dan Hooker go to

545
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: one forty five a lot of reasons, right, you could

546
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: get a fresh new opponent. Look, I mean, look at

547
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker. He switched weight classes coming off of a

548
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: loss in his last fight, right he beat Hackpress and

549
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: he has a loss of if that memory serves yes

550
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: to Makachev. So you're going down to one forty five

551
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: and already they put you in a very relevant fight,

552
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: co main event, first time back in what three years

553
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: in London, and this is a big card. So part

554
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: of it is opportunism. Okay, that's one, but the other

555
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: part BC is we need to say it out loud.

556
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: Arnold Allen has a seventy inch reach seven zero, Dan

557
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Hooker seventy five, so a five inch reach advantage. We

558
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: already know he's kind of lanky. He uses that well.

559
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: How about height? Arnold Allen five foot eighth not very tall,

560
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker six feet tall. So already you can see

561
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: some of these physical dimensions bring themselves into play. And

562
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: we talked about it before. Dan Hooker is one of

563
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: the best guys in the UFC. When there's a height

564
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: differential in his favor, he uses those step through knees

565
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: to light opponents on fire. Be on the lookout for this.

566
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: But if I'm Arnold Allen, I would really consider the

567
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: takedown here. And the reason why is for some of

568
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: the dimension issues I've talked about. We know Dan Hooker.

569
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: What's Dan Hooker's best asset aside from being tough, like

570
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: from a skill set standpoint striking, I would argue, I

571
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: think his striking is his best kind of work, and

572
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: everyone's got a different lit way of doing it. His

573
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: way of doing it is pretty interesting. Arnold Allen is

574
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily a high volume guy. He only lands two

575
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: point nine to six strikes per minute. That's pretty that's

576
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: not super low, but it's kind of low, right, And

577
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker one of his problems is he takes a

578
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: lot of abuse four point sixty one. So what I'm

579
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: saying is on the feet, you've already got these physical

580
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: dimensions that favor Dan Hooker, and on top of it,

581
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: you're going to have a pace that I think is

582
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: going to much more favor Dan Hooker relatively speaking, because

583
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: it is going to be a little bit low, a

584
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: little bit more. He's not going to be overwhelmed with

585
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: volume were being backed up with huge power. Right, We'll

586
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: see how his chin holds up, but that probably stands

587
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: to reason that way Arnold Allen has in all of

588
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: his UFC wins, I think just two by submission and

589
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: all the rest of our decision. Double check me on that,

590
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: but I believe that's right. So here's what I'm saying.

591
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Be see, if I'm Arnold Allen, I'm taking this one

592
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to the ground. If I can't, or at a bare minimum,

593
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really mix in those takedown threats somehow, pushing

594
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker up against the fence. I know he's strong

595
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: in the clinch, but really from a wrestling standpoint, make

596
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker wrestle at least a little bit, and from

597
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: there some of your other opportunities might open up. But

598
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I think if they're just sort of standing at range,

599
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: and especially if Dan Hooker has again room behind him,

600
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: that's a very competitive fight and you might even lean

601
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: towards Hooker in that case.

602
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: It's interesting here, man, I like that you point out

603
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: those size and reach differences. This is Dan Hooker's forty

604
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: five not debut, but right back at it here, but

605
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: the first time since losing three of four at lightweight,

606
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: all to the very elites obviously though, and shit, what

607
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: Chandler Poorier, who's the third one there? Oh yeah, Islam.

608
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: But Luke he did wrestle well against Hosperrat, and it

609
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: felt at the moment like Dan Hooker saying, Okay, I'm

610
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: gonna keep fighting and be an opportunist because I'm thirty

611
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: two years old. Then the window is here. This is

612
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: you know, this is my time to show all great

613
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: I can be. I thought he wrestled great against against

614
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: has Pross to show you you know, I can go

615
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: down this lane if I need to. But we don't

616
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: know where his gas tank is going to be out

617
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: here at forty five, and I think that's going to

618
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: be a real interesting part of it. He has been

619
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: here before, so it's not completely foreign. But the betting

620
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: odds makers are giving him a great deal of respect.

621
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: And again it's part of me going okay, why let's

622
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: look at Alan. Luke is as solid as Alan has

623
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: been eight and oh in the UFC, outside of that

624
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: late third round submission went over Mad's Brunell, every single

625
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: fight has gone the distance for him, though, Is he

626
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: have the potential Arnold Allen to be solid yet unspectacular

627
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: And if Dan Hooker can get back into his potential

628
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: spectacular group again and control the terms of the striking

629
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: and to your point, keep his back off. You know,

630
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: for long distances. Is the fact that Arnold Allen has

631
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: been steady but never yet kicking your door in the

632
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: reason why these odds are so close.

633
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think also people just don't know what to make.

634
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back and you look at

635
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Arnold Allen's record. I was talking about this yesterday. Dude,

636
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: he's got a really sort of strange competitive schedule, Arnold Allen,

637
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: listen to this. He fought once in twenty fifteen, once

638
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, once in twenty seventeen, once in twenty eighteen,

639
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: twice in twenty nineteen, once in twenty twenty, once in

640
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: twenty This guy is Gary Russell junior. Bro Right, That's

641
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: who he is. He takes the mandatory one time a

642
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: year and he does really well. He's undefeated in the

643
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: in the UFC since June of twenty fifteen. But it's

644
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: not it's not super common. So I think part of

645
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: the reason is we've seen Dan Hooker at his best

646
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: and his worst, and we've seen Arnold Allen at his

647
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: very goodest. If that's not a word, which it's not,

648
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: but like somewhere along that line, but a little bit

649
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: more steady little. We've not seen his highest highs and

650
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: we've not seen his lowest lows, and so between the

651
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: lack of activity and not, I mean, you know a

652
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: lot about Arl Allen, but at the same time, you're

653
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: not quite sure what you're gonna get this time, because

654
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: it's been a year since you've seen him. With Dan Hooker,

655
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: you have a clear sense of things. But then the

656
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: advantages from going back down to one forty five in

657
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: terms of power, maybe not so much speed obviously, but

658
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: in terms of the dimensions of his physical frame and

659
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: everything else. I think that's why it's pretty close. Most

660
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: people have Arnold Allen as a slight favorite. Other places

661
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: have it as a near pick em. You see, I

662
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: mostly agree with that. I'm not really sure what to

663
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: make of this one, don't you know. I gave you

664
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: my sort of sense about how they're probably gonna match up,

665
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: But you know, I do, what's Arnold Allen gonna show

666
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: since the sadik Use fight. Let's fucking see, I guess we're.

667
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: Gonna find I mean, look, it's very good matchmaking, it's compelling.

668
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: I really don't know which way to lean. We haven't

669
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: seen Hooker lose it at this weight class since Hick

670
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Diaz took him in twenty sixteen. Luke, that's been a

671
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: that's been a minute. As the much younger and in

672
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: shape and hipper people like to say, I'm not even

673
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: gonna give you a pick, Luke, I don't know. I

674
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell this thing's gonna look like.

675
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 2: But let me ask you this question. At least if

676
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker wins and shows us that forty five, going

677
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: back to it now, and let's not forget Look, a

678
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: lot of people seem to have hit a certain roadblock

679
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: and making weight within the last five or six seven years,

680
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: and you know some of them are da Youana. We

681
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, they're never gonna be able to make

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: that weight again. Now that they're using the the Performance

683
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: Center Institute, now that they're doing it a much smarter

684
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: scientific way, we seem to be in a I hesitate

685
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: to use the word golden era of weightcutting because I

686
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: still think weightcutting in this modern era is incredibly dangerous

687
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: and one day we'll be behind us after a bad situation.

688
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: But at the very least people are figuring out how

689
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 2: to do it professionally right now with help. So if

690
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: Hooker wins here, Luke, is he like an instant title

691
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: contender at one forty five? How do you sort of

692
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: gauge what his future could look like?

693
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how good Arnold Allen will look,

694
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure that if he has even a

695
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: decent performance, he won't look bad. Right Like, in other words,

696
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: what if we said before we've seen his very good,

697
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: we've not seen him what he really best is, and

698
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: we've not seen him. Look, you know, mattz Burnell got

699
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: him down six times and then MAT's Brunell lost a

700
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: decision to him. Or actually mattz Burnell got finished excuse me,

701
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: by him. So think about that. Mattz Burnell took him

702
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: down six times and still got finished by him. I mean,

703
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty it's pretty ridiculous. I'll say this if you know,

704
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: you could say, well, what does beating Arnold Allen get you? Well,

705
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: first of all, in the UFC, no one's done it yet.

706
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Number one number two. To beat a guy who's as

707
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: careful as Arnold Allen, that's hard to do, right, Arnold

708
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: Allen hasn't shown us all of his firepower, but he

709
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: has shown us he doesn't make a lot of mistakes.

710
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: So if Dan Hooker can get a win of a

711
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: guy like that by making him enforced mistakes or making

712
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: him into somebody he otherwise would not be, Yeah, you

713
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: might be, dude, You might be like, that's a really,

714
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: really difficult thing to do. I would actually have a

715
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: great amount of It'd be one thing if he goes

716
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: in there and just smokes him off one right hand

717
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: and whatever. But to go in there and systematically make

718
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: a guy who is very careful, to make him fumble,

719
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: that that's really that's not easy to do. And I

720
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: think if Hooker can show that, yeah, he might be, dude,

721
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: he honestly might be. And by the way, Volkanovski seeing

722
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: the top of that, that one could get awkward.

723
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: And by the way, if Hooker wins this and now

724
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: he's in that title picture, and if the Beat's really

725
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: coming back, dude, featherwish still fun as heck. We talk

726
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: a lot about you.

727
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Make fun of you make fun of me for my

728
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith love affair. No one loves the Beat more

729
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: than you ever in human history. I cannot imagine another

730
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: person who thinks highly of the guy. We haven't seen

731
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: it in a long time.

732
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: Remember on the Titanic when the captain he said, you know,

733
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: this is how it has to end. He's got to

734
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: go down with the ship. Luke, Okay, I don't often

735
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: go down like all right, all right, uh Luke. Yeah,

736
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: that's all I got. Okay, thank you very much. Uh yeah,

737
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: there it is. Let's keep it rolling on this always

738
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: there for you. It is, yes, it is okay, uh luke.

739
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

740
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: Patty Pimblet made a lot of news this week, and

741
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: we talked on Wednesday before we had the full information.

742
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Patty Pimlet's gonna be back his second UFC fight. He's

743
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: gonna take on that can't be the man's name. What

744
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 2: the hell is this guy's name, Kazula Vargas. It is Luke,

745
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: but he got into a dust up with.

746
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Him, which is the sort of the name of a

747
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: soup in Cartagena.

748
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: So that borderline racist of you, uh lou, didn't mean

749
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: we didn't have all the information when we played the

750
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: video of this brawl with Taporia, who's also on this card.

751
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: But you know a lot of our listeners that hey,

752
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: BCN lt dude, get the score right. Did you see

753
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: the now deleted tweet that Patty had put out, you know,

754
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: did ripping Georgians and saying Russias should you know, invade

755
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: them and take them over?

756
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: Luke, we know, like something about how Georgians aren't, in

757
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: his words, very smart. No wonder the Russians terrorized them,

758
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: which is, you know, horrific.

759
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: We already know. I mean it was like, Luke, it's

760
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: different now, right, you might show up with a neck

761
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: tattoo one of these days and we're just gonna go, look,

762
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: that's the culture. But when I was growing up, Luke,

763
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: if you had a tat on your neck or anywhere

764
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: below your elbow, dude, that meant you were either in

765
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: jail before or you're about it bout it at any point. Okay.

766
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: The certain things you pick up on you smell it.

767
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, now it just means you're a sous chef.

768
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: Exactly. When the guys from these certain countries hear trash talk,

769
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: they don't take it as selling a fight. So we

770
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: already know that. But should we be looking down I'm

771
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Patty for these comments, and it's hard, Luke, because I'm

772
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 2: always the guy who says, for the most part, let

773
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: combat sports be the shit show it is. We're fighting

774
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. Like Dana always likes

775
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: to say, right, it's a fight, say bad stuff about

776
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: each other. But Luke, when Connor I thought crossed the

777
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: line with the beb and went after the wife, went

778
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: after the religion, you saw what could happen at two

779
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: twenty nine, and it's that's not good for the fans, right,

780
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean that the shit's basically flown into the crowd.

781
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: And also, Luke, you know we got on Billy Joe

782
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: Saunders when he put out that joking video about how

783
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: to hit a woman. There are lines in this game, Luke,

784
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: does this cross your line at all?

785
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Dude? I don't even know what the line is anymore,

786
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, I don't even know

787
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: what to say. I was talking to this about what

788
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: a friend recently, like, I don't even know what the

789
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: right answer is anymore. Obviously, you know, making fun of

790
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight Georgians suffering at the hands

791
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: of the Russian military, you know, is beyond ignorant and

792
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: in any way defensible. You know, there's no defense of

793
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: the comment by itself. Certainly, it's a horrible thing to say,

794
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: But dude, I have sort of like, I don't even

795
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: know what the right answering is anymore. Like, can you

796
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: really tell me that, like the broader community genuinely cares

797
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: that fighters say unspeakably horrible things to each other. I

798
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: would tell you, I've been in this game for now,

799
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, fourteen or fifteen years. I would say that

800
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: the evidence pretty strongly indicates that nobody seems to ever. Yeah,

801
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: the fighters care, and a couple of the people who

802
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: are associated with the fighters, or you know, on the

803
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: occasion thing where you get the McGregor situation where you're

804
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: really worried about ratcheting up tensions, you can get kind

805
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: of dangerous. But I would say that the overwhelming evidence

806
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: and it this puts me in a despondent mind state.

807
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: They just don't care about any of these things. So, like,

808
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: can we say that the things he said were horrific

809
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: and ignorant? Sure, I mean, that's very true. What are

810
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: we supposed to do about it? I don't know anymore.

811
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't know anymore. I don't know. I don't

812
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: know what the answer is.

813
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, So the original tweet was, lad, how

814
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: stupid are those Georgians men? No wonder the Russians terrorized

815
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: their lives end quote, and then Taporia had quote tweeted

816
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: and said, you think that's funny in that attack by

817
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Russia against US many in this and people lost their lives,

818
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: including children. The one who supports terrorism and racism is

819
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: one of them. This tweet will haunt you for life.

820
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: To Puria told Ariel he was gonna kill Patty next

821
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: time he sees him. So, oh, you got that hanging

822
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: over your head, Luke. But if you're Patty pimblet as

823
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: we talked about on Wednesday, whether you are McGregor light

824
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: or not, you seem to be welcoming the smoke in

825
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: the same regard and not backing down. Does that have

826
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: any impact on this fight against Kazula Vargas, The same fight,

827
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: by the way, in which is an even Israel Da

828
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: Saudia went public and said, damn, they're giving Patty a

829
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: soft touch.

830
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Here comes says he said that, Yeah, he said that,

831
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: that's funny. I didn't see that. Yes they are, I

832
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't think Listen, here's the thing. UFC is

833
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: clearly soft pedaling this, Okay, I don't think that's the

834
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: wrong thing to do. Dana White had a comment I

835
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: saw her an MMA junkie being like, listen, we get

836
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: that everybody loves this guy, you know, and that's an

837
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: amazing thing. But if you're gonna be a star in

838
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: this organization, you gotta win fights. Now, you might be saying, well, okay,

839
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: it's easy to fights. If they're giving you the fights,

840
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: you should win. All right, Let's be honest about it.

841
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Are the UFC matchmakers doing Patty a solid at this

842
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: juncture of his career? Yes, they are. I do think

843
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: they are. However, what I would submit to you is

844
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the correct way to do it. The

845
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: popularity that surrounds Patty is a good thing for Patty,

846
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: for the UFC, for all the parties involved, including his opponents,

847
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the level of his ability that they

848
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: will get if that's the thing that they care about. However,

849
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: it has outpaced what I think the level of ability

850
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: that he has shown. Now, let me be clear, I

851
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: think he has shown a high level of ability, but

852
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: he has still some green parts of his game, particularly

853
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: as it relates to striking defense, and there could be

854
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: some other ones as well, but that's sort of the

855
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: one that stands out. Why would you rush him into

856
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: fights that are significantly more competitive when A if he

857
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: wins this one, he has to get to that point anyway,

858
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: and B if he doesn't, then this is all for naught.

859
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: Understand I made the same argument when the UFC put

860
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor up against Dennis sever When they announce that

861
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: fight in Boston, people are like, Dennis Sever really they're

862
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: giving this guy no wrestlers because they're like, why are

863
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: they giving him Edgar? Why are they given him Mendez?

864
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: And the argument was, sure, he could be fighting those guys.

865
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If he can really massage his

866
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: popularity win these contests, he's going to elevate himself to

867
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: a point where you can no longer hide from those fights.

868
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. He hadn't fighting Mendez any one,

869
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: if we know the story, but then eventually lost some

870
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: along the way, you will eventually graduate to a point

871
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: where you're fighting other names. We're hiding like that inside

872
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: the division is not really possible. Why would you rushi

873
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: a kids development because his popularity is already high when

874
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: you can soft pedal a little bit. You can maximize

875
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: his development, which means you have a much better chance

876
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: of winning the bigger and better and more important fights

877
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: when the time comes around. The UFC. For all the

878
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: criticism they faced about this, I think that the critics

879
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: are wrong. This is exactly the way they should be

880
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: doing it, and I think it's the best chance they

881
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: have of getting the most out of the Paddy Pemblet experience.

882
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Now he has to win, but that's the way to

883
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: do it.

884
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: Luke, when they gave John Jones' first main event, they

885
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: gave him forty one year old the janitor, Vladimir Mattresshenko,

886
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: who I'm not gonna act like was immobile at that point.

887
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: But that was a step back matchmaking wise, to give

888
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: somebody a showcase, right.

889
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: Right, But what did John Jones do with him?

890
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so, Luke, when we look, we had

891
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: Steven Essminos on, when we talked Showtime Boxing, we talked

892
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor, Dana White, we talked Jake Paul a lot.

893
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: Of stuff, and we we understand that, like, look, we're

894
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: gonna have our boss on, so we're not gonna piss

895
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: them off. We're gonna ask him journalist questions and we

896
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: did that. One of the comments he made Luke, some

897
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: people were like, oh, you guys, didn't you know, didn't

898
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: hit him hard on when he said, look, the reputation

899
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: of UFC matchmaking used to be that the best always

900
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: fight the best. But that's not long that's no longer

901
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: the case. And I think when you hear that at

902
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: face value, you go, oh, come on, saur grapes, what

903
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: are you talking about. But he made a specific point

904
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: to say, look at McGregor, and in this case, look

905
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: at pimblet. Would you say what Stephen said is true

906
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: if put under the right frame.

907
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: I do think that there is an overstating of the

908
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: best not fighting the best in boxing. Now, there is

909
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: certainly a lot of truth to it as well, let's

910
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: be very clear, but sometimes people overstated. I remember, for example,

911
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: and we were totally wrong about it too. We should

912
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: sort of say that, you know, when Cambosis was fighting Lopez, oh,

913
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: this is you know, some mandatory bullshit blah blahlah blah blah.

914
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Same thing with caterall right, when he faced when he

915
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: faced Josh Taylor, Sah, this is some bullshit blah, blah

916
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: blah bla blah. You know, listen, it's just there's a

917
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: system in boxing, which it is true, it doesn't facilitate

918
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: the best fighting the best as often as you would like,

919
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: but there's also a system in place in boxing that

920
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: gets a little bit more of that than the average

921
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: dismissable insult accurately reflects. But dude, like the UFC moving

922
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: to I don't understand what people are so upset about

923
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: this or or thinking it's a problem the UFC borrowing

924
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: some of what boxing does to give guys who need

925
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: more development but who are already popular a little bit

926
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: of a easier runway to take off. What on earth

927
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: is the problem with that? I honestly don't understand what

928
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: people are complaining about, because understand the converse, Dude, I

929
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: live through pride, taking Olympic gold medalists and just chucking

930
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: them into these insanely difficult fights and completely fucking up

931
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: their development. That's a real thing that will happen. Dude,

932
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: if you really believe in the ultimate potential of Patti Pemblet,

933
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: you should be thanking the UFC for saying, let's get

934
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: this guy some time to adapt to the elite level,

935
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: so then he can be the best he can be.

936
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: Why would you fuck with that? It doesn't make any sense.

937
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: To mess on taking stage North Page van ZANDT and

938
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: just saying this is what we do. We did dabrac Leslar.

939
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 2: We're just can throw you at a high ranking when

940
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: you do have to realize this is a business. Is

941
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm McGregor can get a time shot

942
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: when he doesn't.

943
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Disturb Let me let me say one thing. We just

944
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: talked about Alex Pereira last weekend, right, so, and I

945
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: saw our colleague Brent Brookhouse was like fuck it put

946
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: him to the front of the line. He ended up

947
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: calling out cannon hear not quite auto Sonia. But dude,

948
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: that's a different scenario. That guy's thirty four years old.

949
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of time left to maximize

950
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: his athletic potential. He's in a different sport than it.

951
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: What is his main sport to begin with, And in

952
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: that other sport, he beat the fuck out of just

953
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: about everybody. So what are you waiting on? It's like

954
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: you don't have time to mess with this anyway. You

955
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: got to strike while the iron's hot. Patty Pimblin is

956
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: in a completely different division or different situation. He's seven

957
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: years younger than that. Why would you borrow the Alex

958
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Perera arguments for a guy in his second UFC fight

959
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: who's twenty seven years old. It makes zero sense to me.

960
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, Patty's opponent Kazu la Vargus, thirty six years old

961
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: from Mexico, Luke, and he's lost two of his three

962
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: UFC appearances. Although he just beat wrong Zoo what the

963
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: super young guy who showed his butt on? Have you

964
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: seen this shit? So twelve and four overall, has fought

965
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: in cambat a couple of other places. We'll see what happens,

966
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: Lucas Patty passed the test here and get the the

967
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: the crowd going nuts and him sitting atop the cage,

968
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: and it's just.

969
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'll say this though, if he loses to

970
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: this guy this is that would be horrible. That would

971
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: be really really bad.

972
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: That'd be really bad, Luke his potential.

973
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: That's the one downside to these fights. That's the one downside.

974
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: You have to win them. You absolutely you can't like

975
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: look good in a losing effort. Fuck that, you have

976
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: to win this one.

977
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: His potential future counterpart. Ilia Taporio will face Ji Herbert

978
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: in a lightweight about to kick off this main car

979
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: in ESPN Plus, we talked about how good that fight is. Luke,

980
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna put more gas in the Tapuria fuel tank here.

981
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: This could be a wild one.

982
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this could be a while. And he's up at

983
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: one fifty five for this one, taking on Jie Herbert,

984
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: a sort of a guy we know, you know, as

985
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: a I would say, a very good striker, lean quick,

986
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: a very I'll say this a completely different test than

987
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: Ryan Hall, right to go from Ryan Hall, who is

988
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: this sort of one type of very significant threat, to

989
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: Jie Herbert, who has a completely different set of significant threats.

990
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna get We're gonna learn a lot about Illiot

991
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Sapori here. And I got a feeling that as good

992
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: as Herbert is, and I have great respect for him.

993
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: To Pouria, and everyone's different. You're saying, oh, well, Patty's

994
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: only twenty seven, blah blah blah. Right, so Pooria looks

995
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: to me, to me, we'll see could lose here, you

996
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: know whatever. He looks to me, you see to be

997
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: a little bit further along in his development. Everyone develops

998
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: at different levels, at different stages, at different speeds, at

999
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: different times in their career. So for to Pooria, this

1000
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: makes sense to me, I like this one. I think

1001
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: you should win. I think you probably will win. And

1002
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: I gotta say, you know, Patty Pimblet's right to get

1003
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: all of these like irons in the fire, with all

1004
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: these people that want them. All it does is raise

1005
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: the level of ability and the stakes they're gonna fight

1006
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: with Soporia, Careful what you wish for? Careful what well?

1007
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Vegas likes both to survive in advance and maybe fight

1008
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: each other. DraftKings has Addy Pimblet as a minus six

1009
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: hundred favorite plus thirty five for Vargas, and also has

1010
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: to Purry a minus five point fifty Jai Herbert plus

1011
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: four hundred. Very interesting, Luke Let's speed through a few

1012
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: of these Gunner Nelson back. Finally, Luke, he is going

1013
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: to be a minus five to fifty favorite against Takashi

1014
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: sato Is. There's still time for Nelson to make some noise.

1015
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he had a few minutes in this game, right,

1016
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, then he was Connor's Icelandic training partner, and

1017
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: then he's been hit or miss in and out. So

1018
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: he's back.

1019
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: He is back. You know, he can strike on the feet.

1020
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: We know he has got that sort of like karate

1021
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: style where he's kind of in and out, in and out,

1022
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: and he can do his thing. But BC, I mean,

1023
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: just listen to this. This is why I would really

1024
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: hope he takes this fight to the ground for his

1025
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: own sake. Strikes havesor permitted for Gunner Nelson three point

1026
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: three to three, so little on the high side, Okay,

1027
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: strikes landed permit it one point seven to one. So

1028
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: not only is that extremely low, he's got a negative

1029
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: differential of almost two integers. That's that's high. That's that's

1030
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: a very high differentiation there. So Takashi Sato is hittable.

1031
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: He too has a negative differential three point one six

1032
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: to four point one eight in terms of strikes landed

1033
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: versus absorbed. But on the ground, dude, Takashi Sato, I

1034
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: just don't think it's got the same level of ability

1035
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: that Gunnar Nelson does. I would really like to see

1036
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Gunnar Nelson go back to the thing that made him

1037
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: the money that it did, and and in the jiu jitsu.

1038
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see he should win this.

1039
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, though Gooner Nelson has the thoughts. In twenty nineteen

1040
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: he lost a split decision to Leon Edwards and then

1041
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: he lost the unanimous decision to Gilbert Burns. So he's

1042
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: back here. He tends to only lose to the to

1043
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: the to the upper course, so we'll see what happens here.

1044
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Luke I cannot believe they are burying Paul Craig and

1045
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: Nikita Krilov on this prelim card. Look, let's give you

1046
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: a see credit. They're back in London and for a

1047
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: fight night card. They have loaded up some some well

1048
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: matched matchups. This is another one. Paul Craig is four

1049
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: zero to one in his last five. He could be

1050
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: coming on here. Luke X's and O's wise, what does

1051
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: this look like here against Cree Love.

1052
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: Again. Paul Craig probably will stand with him on the

1053
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: feet to some degree, and he's got a little bit

1054
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: of trickery there. But dude, he's gonna have to pull guard,

1055
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: which is what he always does, and he might get

1056
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: torched for it, or he might just end up with

1057
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: a great submission. Nikita Krilov came into the UFC. The

1058
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: story was if you guys have never seen his photo

1059
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: on the fight finder. My understanding is he submitted that

1060
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: directly to Shirt Dog to have as his fight finder photo.

1061
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: That was back when their database was like the database

1062
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: in MMA. Now Topology and Wikipedia and some other places

1063
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: have caught up. But so that was, and he was

1064
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: even in the UFC, and he was wearing UFC gloves

1065
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: and he was calling himself al Capone. It was like,

1066
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: and then when he first came through the UFC, he

1067
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: was not really UFC ready, he got bounced. Now he's

1068
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: back and he's much better, much better, just a lot

1069
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: cleaner mechanics, better decision making, much more well rounded, has

1070
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: physically filled out to a strong degree as well. Paul

1071
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: greg has his hands full here. But I would imagine

1072
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: that this is a fight that Krilov should win. But BC,

1073
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: how many times has Paul Craig been in fights that

1074
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: he was should have lost given the strategy that he employed,

1075
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: and he still found a way to pull it out.

1076
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: So I'll favor Krilov here, But Paul Craig is the

1077
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: wrong guy to sleep on big time.

1078
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like a streaker wearing a trench coat, he finds

1079
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: a way to pull it out Luke, and he's like

1080
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned, four oho one, but it'll be the betting underdog.

1081
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: Kreelov has lost two or three. I'll be it against

1082
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: absolute hammers of the Nkalaiyah variety, but Krelov here, Luke

1083
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: will be minus one ninety five plus one six five

1084
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: Paul Craig the underdog. This, this will be good, Luke.

1085
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: Maybe the reason why this is on the prelimbs is uh,

1086
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Molly the meatball is going to get the uh the

1087
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: the at home love here on the main card against

1088
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 2: Luana Carolina Molly McCann Luke Women's flyweight. She fun and games,

1089
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: are she a real thing?

1090
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: We'll have this. We'll have to see. We'll have to

1091
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: see pretty one. Yeah, yeah, you know what. So far

1092
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: I think her her. It's been a commendable effort, but

1093
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've gotten a clear sense about

1094
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: which direction this is all going yet. This will help

1095
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: us potentially solidify it, I will say, ABC, I got

1096
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I got a couple of people who tweeted me that

1097
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: we had neglected to mention a couple of fights on

1098
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: this card that are worth mentioning.

1099
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Jack? Because the people.

1100
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Are yes, that's another one. The other one is Mohammed Makayev,

1101
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: taken on Cody Durden. Mokayev I think has like twenty

1102
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: plus wins as an amateur, undefeated as a pro. This

1103
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: is his UFC debut. Folks are asking what to make

1104
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: of him. This is his UFC debut. I mean, what's

1105
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: you know? He obviously is the goods on some level,

1106
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: but it's so early in his development. Let's just wait

1107
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: and see Luke.

1108
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: Jack Shore fifteen to oh four and oh in the

1109
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: UFC he's a plus one hundred underdog against timor Vella

1110
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: Valiev val Valie. I'm gonna go with Bally minus one twenty.

1111
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: So dude, this is a well matched card. Dude, this

1112
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: this is a good ass There's some good ass ship here, Luke.

1113
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and people, and this is the thing. Boxing promoters,

1114
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: as you well know, would load up fights where it

1115
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: was a little bit more on the pimblet Vargas kind

1116
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: of side of things. And there is that one here

1117
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: on this card. But in general, dude, these are the Brits.

1118
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: Don't necessarily are or I should say that the folks

1119
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: out of the UK and and and and whatnot They

1120
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: don't really have the easiest road here. These are some

1121
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: pretty tough fights up and down all the way through.

1122
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: So uh, good card, great card is mattered.

1123
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well done, Mick Maynard and Seawan Shelby. By the way,

1124
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: Shawn Shelby made an appearance, of course, in UH Morning

1125
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Combat documentary number six at the awards dinner as well. Luke,

1126
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: let's move on to topic number two. This hit the

1127
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 2: news waves in the The fight itself is not the news.

1128
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Rosnami Unis will defend her Women's Staraway title in a

1129
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: rematch against the inaugural champion, Karla Asparza. They met in

1130
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: twenty four at the Tough Finale to crown a champion

1131
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: for the first time. That's the first UFC fight I

1132
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: ever attended and covered, Luke, I love that. But the

1133
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: hook here is that it's being added to UFC two

1134
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: seventy four. It's May seventh. The sight is Phoenix, Arizona

1135
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: that's going head to head potentially with Canelo Alvarez, same night,

1136
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: same time, and we've got Charles Olivera Justin Gaigi in

1137
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: the main event. Now Rose and Carla Part two in

1138
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: the Cole Maine, Michael Chandler, Tony Ferguson, Luke how jacked

1139
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: is this single to Mayo Weekend Card?

1140
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: Now?

1141
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: This is this is great, this is huge, what a addition.

1142
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: As you indicated the main of card. We alread some

1143
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: of the names, Olivera, Gaichi, Nomy, you excuse me, A, Sparza, Chandler, Ferguson,

1144
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna do this one again, Showgun versus Saint Prue,

1145
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: which is crazy, That's what it's gonna be. And then

1146
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Serroni versus Lozan and you know you can go down

1147
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: the list from there. I love this and I love

1148
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: what Carla Sparza has done in this division. You know

1149
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: she never gonna get an easy path back to the

1150
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: title after losing the way she did to Johanna and

1151
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: then a couple of hiccups she's had along the way

1152
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: in this particular case, obviously Goadelia and Tatiana Suarez, but

1153
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: since then Jenji Roebuck quality, Grasso quality, Waterson, Hadriguez, Shaunan.

1154
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: These are all quality wins. Five in a row. She

1155
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: could no longer be denied, and it's crazy, dude. Rose

1156
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: nama Unis has no job except to fight the same

1157
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: fighters over and over and over again. We talked about

1158
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: it last time when she was I think she's had

1159
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: what three rematches back to back to back something like that.

1160
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: This is a different one obviously from earlier on, but

1161
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: a rematch just the same. It's so strange that she

1162
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: finds herself in these positions, having to fight the same

1163
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: fighters over and over again. But it gives you a

1164
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: chance that obviously you know, getting choked out the first

1165
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: time for revenge, but also it gives Carla Sparza a

1166
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: chance to flex all of her new skills as well.

1167
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: Rose has made up more ground since they fought the

1168
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: first time, so she should probably be favored here. But

1169
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: I I just I love this contest. I love when

1170
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: contenders you can't take anything from them. You cannot take

1171
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: anything from Carlos Barza and again a rematch. What's not

1172
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: to love a revenge aspect as well, title fight. It's

1173
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: the best, It's the best.

1174
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: I love it. Great story and look, I'm just saying

1175
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: this card is now becoming like, oh shit, should we

1176
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: go to that? It's becoming that level do with these

1177
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: three fights atop it?

1178
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: Where's this one again? It's gonna be in Phoenix.

1179
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: That's Sean al Shoddi territory. Okay, that's Dan.

1180
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Marley got an uncle in Phoenix, Dude, I had an.

1181
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Uncle in Phoenix. He just moved out. He lived there forever, Luke,

1182
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: we should go stay with your uncle, right, have him

1183
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: on MK cover these fights. Okay, all right, so much

1184
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: for that. I guess we don't talk about Bruno or

1185
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Luke's family under any circumstance here, Luke. Topic three, Dude,

1186
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a topic. It started about

1187
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: three to four days ago. I think Chill Sonin's most

1188
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: responsible for this. Out in the ethosphere, the Ethernet, the cosmos,

1189
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: that one Colby Covington as the number one contender at

1190
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: Walter Wade and with a not really obvious path back

1191
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: to the title, given that he's lost twice to Usman,

1192
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: should be allowed per Chail son In to automatically make

1193
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: a leap to the top of the middleweight division if

1194
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: he wanted to to take on Israel Outasnia. Now, Luke,

1195
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: I was gonna throw that into the wheel of death

1196
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: on Wednesday as a Okay, this is interesting. Is chail

1197
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: just backing another trash talker like himself, maybe to retroactively

1198
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: try to justify his own title shot against John Jones,

1199
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: which was undeserved and really unnecessary in so many ways.

1200
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: But Luke, it's it's kind of blown up from there.

1201
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: And then we get Colby Covington visiting our friends down

1202
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: Under on Submission Radio, and here's Colby's comments. I think

1203
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: I can definitely go up to one eighty five and

1204
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: fight out of Sonia. But I don't know if he's

1205
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: going to turn around like that. He doesn't have a

1206
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 2: dance partner right now. I mean, some of the guys

1207
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: are trying to line him up with its unriginal Why

1208
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: can Usman fight him and trying They're trying to lie bah,

1209
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: why can't Usman fight him? And all the fans want that.

1210
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: But the guy that beat Usman, I be Dusmann. I

1211
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: be Dusmon twice. Usman sucks, dude. Everybody knew an MSG.

1212
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: I won the last three rounds. It was an easy

1213
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: win for me, easy decision, unanimous. So why can't I

1214
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: fight out a Sonia? He can't stop my wrestling. I'll

1215
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: pick him up and drop him on his fucking head.

1216
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: He's a cardio kickboxer. They got enough cardio cut kickboxers

1217
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: and women's classes around the US. Blah blah blah. End quote, Luke,

1218
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of jail level revisionist history in that quote.

1219
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: And since that quote hit the airwaves, you see some

1220
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: rumors on IG that aut Asagna could be back International

1221
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: Fight Week in July and Vegas to defend against Jared

1222
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: Cannon Are So it's not as if he doesn't have

1223
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: a willing contender. But could you buy in this calendar

1224
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: year to Colby Covington get this opportunity against Israel out

1225
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: of Sunya?

1226
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: No, No, why would that happen? Like, I don't even understand.

1227
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: Two reasons? Two reasons, Okay, One, Covington in theory sells

1228
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: fights in ways that is these other opponents can't. And

1229
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: if you hedge that with if he beats Cannon air

1230
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: there there isn't anyone else that's like screaming at the

1231
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: moment that he hasn't fought. And then two, Luke, I

1232
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: guess it's the style matchup hole you could talk yourself

1233
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: into where well, what if he could take get Israel

1234
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: down the whole fight, you know, like everyone tries to do.

1235
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like everyone in.

1236
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: The theory says how's the How has that worked out

1237
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: for the US?

1238
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: It hasn't. It hasn't, But it is star versus star. Luke,

1239
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: admit to me, if he beats Cannon Air in July,

1240
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: where's he going back up to two o five? Where's

1241
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: he going? Luke?

1242
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think back up to two of five. Probably. Listen.

1243
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm immune to the idea that a

1244
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: guy who can wrestle and chain wrestle and provide pressure

1245
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: and has great cardio couldn't be a problem, not just

1246
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: for at Asinya, but for a lot of those middleweights. Yeah,

1247
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: of course that is a reasonable thing to think about.

1248
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: But I keep saying this like people just being like wow,

1249
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: ad to Signia is you know you just couldn't defend

1250
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the takedown dog. Who are these people that are just

1251
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: lording this over Adasanya at this point where they can

1252
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: win fights, they can't even fucking win rounds doing that anymore.

1253
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how much it has gotten better for him. So,

1254
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, while I am appreciative of Kolby's ability, while

1255
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm appreciative of what I like to see that fight

1256
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: on some level, BC to answer your question, sure, but

1257
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: it's like Colby is doing everything other than calling out

1258
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: relevant welterweights. To me, that's actually the story here. You're

1259
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: calling out Dustin Partier and then sort of suggesting you

1260
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: can come up to another division. So what so where

1261
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: are you? Where are you? Are you still a guy

1262
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: who's in You can call out whatever you want. But

1263
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: to me, like the story is a as unicaated Otasignya

1264
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: already has a date with Cannony or at least, you know,

1265
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: an eventual date with cannoneer and be the other fight

1266
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: he wanted was Dustin Parier. It's like I'm supposed to, Hedge,

1267
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to believe that the guy who was calling

1268
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: out people outside of his weight class a champion or

1269
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: a rival who is smaller on some level. Anyway, that

1270
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: tells you that this is the overwhelming, dominating machine who

1271
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: can just go to one A five and snatch the

1272
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: title when all the other middleweights couldn't. Maybe, maybe, certainly

1273
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: I would like to see it, but I'm a little

1274
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: bit skeptical that it's as easy as everyone thinks seems

1275
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: to think that it is.

1276
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: I think they make it this year. Luke unless unless,

1277
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: unless Izzy announces a full time move to two a five.

1278
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: And to be fair, Luke, if Prahatschka wins this title

1279
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: and stops Glover and you're izzy, it's not that you

1280
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: don't believe you can beat pro Hoska, and it's not

1281
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: that you can't be pro Hotska, but that's not an

1282
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: opportune time to launch yourself back into the division. The

1283
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: opportune time is when there's an aging champion or a

1284
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: champion and let's say it, Blohovich at that time was

1285
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: to be an aging fighter who stumbled into the belt.

1286
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: Good for him, but out of sign he's gonna beat him,

1287
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: and then he didn't. That's the time I think to

1288
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: parachute in the division. Or if John Jones is there

1289
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: and you make a super fight, I don't think he's

1290
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: just gonna march in. If it's you know, any of

1291
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: these hammers, I think he's like, Okay, let's see what happened.

1292
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: What is the what is the demand for this? Like

1293
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: he'd beat Jorge Masvidal and that's great, Like you we

1294
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: both thought he would. I thought he would, and I

1295
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: think you respected the fact that what you saw was

1296
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: certainly possible ahead of time. But it wasn't like you know,

1297
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: like that performance is the one that wants us to

1298
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: now see what he can do skipping around across divisions,

1299
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: Like if anything, that fight made me think I would

1300
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: like to see him against other relevant welter ways to

1301
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: see exactly where he is still. Not Hey, let's shoot

1302
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: this guy to the moon because Anderson Silva just doesn't

1303
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: have any more opponents. Let's see what happens when we

1304
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: stick Forrest Griffin in front of him. Remember, like the

1305
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: Demian Maya fight was considered so bad. One of the

1306
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: theories after that fight was, you know, a guy like

1307
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Silva needs some people to come after him and really

1308
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: take it too, and not just the kind of guy

1309
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: who's gonna stand there and not do enough to make

1310
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: him illicit a response. So they send in Griffin, and

1311
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Griffin got washed. We're putting Kolbe on that level now,

1312
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: Like he just doesn't have any anybody who can do

1313
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: anything to him, So we have to find these other

1314
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: guys and these other divisions to see where he's at. Dude, Like,

1315
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: there's there's a whole row of elite Walter waits he

1316
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: hasn't even fought yet, Like, I don't under no, I'm

1317
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: not that interested in this not not at all.

1318
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: If it was Homza, though you could get a little

1319
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: more excited about it.

1320
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: Still need to see what's up with him. He beats

1321
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: Gilbert and then forget about it. At that point, it's not.

1322
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: Gonna be hobbs. I'm just saying maybe that. I mean,

1323
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: it's look, I don't want I don't want this, But

1324
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: do I want Covington und saying no? But do I

1325
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: think it could happen? Yeah? Of course I have we

1326
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: seen it. We've seen this happen before. Of course we

1327
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: can see it at sure.

1328
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: Any anything is possible in terms of how weird the

1329
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: matchmaking could be. But I don't really believe that there's

1330
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: like a big push for this at all. I don't

1331
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: buy that it did.

1332
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: It did take over the Twitter verse for a day

1333
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: or two. All right, Luke topic four, This would be

1334
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: quick but top rank box. He's got a tripleheader this weekend.

1335
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: By the way, de Zonne was supposed to have Virgil

1336
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: Ortiz Junior back in a fight we don't really care

1337
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: about against McKinnon at Walter Waight. Virgil Art's how to

1338
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: pull out with a weird.

1339
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: No, it's not that weird. All the crossfitters get it.

1340
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: They call it the rabdo. The clown is how they

1341
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: named it. Rabdo is the short name for rabdo myolysis.

1342
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: It's a basically when you have essentially overtrained and your

1343
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: body is, for lack of a better description, turning on itself,

1344
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: and you can get really sick and fucked up, and

1345
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: you can lose muscle, tissue and all kinds of stuff.

1346
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty serious once you get to that point.

1347
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: So he overtrained to the point where he got sick.

1348
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: Basically shout out.

1349
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: To Virgil Archies, junior of the unbeaten promising Welterway prospect

1350
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: but top rank ESPN this weekend, Luke Madison Square Garden. Damn.

1351
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: We got a triple header and Luke being put in

1352
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: the main event is one precurious. Edgar Berlanga, the unbeaten

1353
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: super middleweight twenty four years old, eighteen and oh was

1354
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: sixteen KOs. We know him mostly for that stretch of

1355
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: sixteen consecutive first round knockouts, which led to him showing

1356
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: up on this show talking about being best friends with

1357
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: Fat Joe, I mean, living the life. But Luke, he

1358
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: went the distance two fights ago and looked okay. But

1359
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: in his last bout, he won a ten round decision

1360
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 2: against Marcelo Esteban Coheris, but he suffered a left torn

1361
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: biceps injury which needed surgery. He got dropped in that

1362
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: fight after the injury happened, and uh Luke, he just

1363
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: didn't look like the killer anymore. So he's gonna be

1364
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: in there in this main event against Steve Rolls. And

1365
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: to be fair, Steve Roles is a shiny, glossy record,

1366
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: but Luke, his only fight of like any note is

1367
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: when he filled in last minute against Triple G and

1368
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: got sent to hell in four rounds. So this is

1369
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: when I'll say this.

1370
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: I rewatched that fight this morning in today's prep. Who

1371
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: the first three rounds he did okay. It was just

1372
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: after that was like fuck this, I have I need

1373
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: to get I gotta go catch the l I double

1374
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: R downstairs indeed, and then just you.

1375
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: Know, uh Berlenga was on. He talked to boxing see

1376
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: dot com this week. He said about that that fight

1377
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: in which he didn't look great, that showed I could

1378
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: fight through anything. I got another fight with getting rounds

1379
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: and I went the distance. It just showed that I

1380
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: got heart I'm a warrior, and now we've.

1381
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: Talked about six rounds with a completely detached bicep. That, yeah,

1382
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: not be easy.

1383
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: He said. It's about me tightening up my skills and

1384
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: executing it now, which is true. Luke. I'd say there's

1385
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of pressure here. You know, you're putting

1386
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: him in the main event. You're putting him in there

1387
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: after a flawed appearance. Although does he have an excuse

1388
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: for an injury, of course, but you know I've said it, Luke,

1389
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: it's a blessing and a curse when you get attention

1390
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: because of a streak like that, a first round knockout

1391
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: streak where it's like, if you don't knock the guy out,

1392
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: the hell are you doing? You know, and then you

1393
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: face any adversity and we're just suddenly waiting for Humpty

1394
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: dumpty to fall off. You know, this kid's got pop,

1395
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: he's big, he's got charisma, confidence, He's gonna have to

1396
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: go out there and blow Steve Rolls away.

1397
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1398
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: In the first half of this fight, I think to

1399
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: keep that train moving in that direction.

1400
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is see, this is the part where you're like, okay,

1401
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: you can soft pedal development for a while, and I

1402
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: actually think it's beneficial. And then it becomes kind of

1403
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: strange because after a performance like that with Burlanka, it's like, okay,

1404
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: do you give him somebody who's like a really tough

1405
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: test after you know, he looked kind of very ho

1406
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: hump granted with a terrible injury, but he looked kind

1407
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: of ho hum. You can do that, or you can

1408
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: give him somebody who he should really beat. But then

1409
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: you also risk like what if he looks kind of

1410
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: ho hummish against the guy he's really supposed to beat.

1411
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: Then you're like, you know, I'm not sure what you're

1412
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: supposed to do in that kind of case. So it's

1413
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: a it's a difficult situation. It's an opponent he should

1414
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: run through, but based on some of the doubts being

1415
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: raised more recently, you're like, what have you done run

1416
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: through him? That the train might come out to a stop,

1417
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: but you might certainly slow down on all the high

1418
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: But then again, you know, he Burlonga, I think does

1419
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: have big power and I think he can show that,

1420
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: so he should be okay, should be okay.

1421
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: It's worth checking in on here from New York, Puerto

1422
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 2: Rican of descent and also looking this co main event

1423
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: from Puerto Rico, nineteen year old Xander Zaiaz the junior

1424
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: middleweight twelve and zero with nine KOs he'll be taking

1425
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: on He's good Quincy Lavallis that is a guy to

1426
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: watch in the boxing game. Here top Rink does a

1427
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: good job and matches them tough, so we'll see what happens.

1428
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question about Top Rank is

1429
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: it my This may sound kind of weird, but for

1430
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: folks who don't know, if you look at the square

1431
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: footage of the island of Puerto Rico, no territory on

1432
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: Earth has produced as many boxing champions as Puerto Rico

1433
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: does Top Rank recruit and discover more Puerto Rican fighters

1434
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: than other promoters or is that my imagination?

1435
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: No? I would I would deem that to be true.

1436
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly Don King had had his share in

1437
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: his prime as well, but today, no question about it.

1438
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 2: You can even go further and say, although Golden Boy

1439
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: with Oscar de le Joy and the Mexican American connection,

1440
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: you know finds great Mexican or Mexican American partners. Bob

1441
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,919
Speaker 2: Aaram has long had a working relationship with Fernando Beltran,

1442
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 2: who's a top promoter in Mexico and in Beltron's promotional

1443
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: company has always been sort of called like Latin Top

1444
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: Rank or Mexican Top Rank, and you know they've brought

1445
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: one now will Mark has and all these great stars

1446
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: to Bob and they've co promoted and stuff. So there's

1447
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: always been a Hispan pipeline there for Bob. No question,

1448
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: does that does that play into I just raised I

1449
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: don't know, good God, yeah it doesn't. The only reason

1450
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: I ask is I just I just see Bob featuring

1451
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: a lot of Puerto Rican talent in ways that other

1452
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: major promoters, Not that they don't feature perto Rican town,

1453
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: because there's so much of it it's almost hard not to,

1454
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: but it does seem to me like Bob makes a

1455
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: real clear effort at it. So yeah, absolutely, And Bob

1456
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: does a great job of always connecting Puerto Rico to

1457
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: New York and using that fan base and all that,

1458
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: no question about it. Luke, some quick hitters to get

1459
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: us through here. You put this on my radar. It

1460
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: goes down this week and Dubai and it is the

1461
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: being billed as the heaviest boxing match in history. When

1462
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: is a game of Throne star and former World's Strongest

1463
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: Man Thor Bjornson, who weighs in at three hundred and

1464
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: sixteen pounds in all, six foot nine of him.

1465
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: As we were, not that one fifty two kilos, so

1466
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty five.

1467
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: Look at that.

1468
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: That's he's got abs and he's three hundred and thirty five.

1469
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I got the weights mixed up. He'll be taking

1470
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: on fellow former world Strongest Man Eddie the Beast Tall,

1471
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: who is six foot three. He must be the one

1472
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: who's three hundred and sixteen pounds, Luke. They both have

1473
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: the same eighty inch reach. They're both former strong men.

1474
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 2: You can watch this only on the Segi s e

1475
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: g I TV stream. I don't know what that means,

1476
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 2: but we not only have a picture of this large

1477
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: man on the scale Thor Bjornson, We've got video of

1478
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: a little dust up from their press conference. And then

1479
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: I'll get your reaction here I think.

1480
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 5: Members fall call control himself, don't lose you.

1481
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Luke, I get your interest given the bodybuilding background,

1482
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: But how like this does seem like some Jake Paul

1483
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: type stuff, So how how should we feel this? For

1484
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: this for Saturday how should we look.

1485
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: As total as a total ship show circus the powerlifting

1486
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: community and the world the strong man community are all

1487
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: about it about it basically like people are telling the

1488
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: story a little differently. It actually goes back to I

1489
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: think it was twenty seventeen World Strongest Man. I could

1490
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: be wrong about the date, but they these two were

1491
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: in the final on something called the Viking press, which

1492
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: is where you have a bar essentially like a square

1493
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: in front of you and you don't press it overhead,

1494
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: you kind of press it out to the front, and

1495
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: they there was a rep that half thor did that

1496
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: did not count, so then Eddie had the most reps

1497
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: on that, but he felt he got cheated and that

1498
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of started a bit of a difference between them

1499
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: because actually Eddie Hall has a really good relationship with

1500
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: Brian Straw and an American strongman has won it four

1501
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: times and so it's not like a it's a weird

1502
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: that those two would bump hands. Most of these strongmen

1503
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: are like really like chumming with each other, so to

1504
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: get a dispute like this is somewhat somewhat unheard of.

1505
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: And then there was the deadlift record during the pandemic

1506
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: where Eddie Hall was the first one to deadlift, first

1507
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: man ever to deadlift five hundred kilos, and then Thor

1508
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: at his own gym, not at an event, but it

1509
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: was It was an event, but it was at his

1510
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: gym during the pandemic because no one could get around anywhere.

1511
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: He did over that. I think he did five hundred

1512
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: one or five hundred and two kilos, and so he

1513
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: broke the record. But of course Eddie Hall was like,

1514
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: that's a bullshit record because you didn't do it at

1515
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: a meat it's different. Blah blah blah. So all of

1516
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: that has combined together to make this what it is.

1517
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: They are clearly dramatizing it, motherfucking half. Thor Bjornsen can

1518
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: deadlift five hundred plus kilos and move a bunch of

1519
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: men the size of Jake the von Amsterdam out of

1520
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: his way, like if you want to chuck those guys

1521
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: with one hand, he could do that. So it's obviously

1522
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: a total shit show circus. But I will say this

1523
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: for Thor b see he has spent this time because

1524
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: Eddie got injured in between. I think he tore his

1525
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: bicep as well, and they had to delay this fight

1526
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: and delay this fight, and if he actually knows what

1527
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: Thor has been doing, he took a bunch of amateur

1528
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: fights and tried to really work his way through and got,

1529
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, for a dude, three hundred and fucking forty pounds,

1530
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: both of these guys used to be well over four hundred.

1531
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: He moves pretty well. He moves pretty well. We're gonna

1532
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: this could be a little bit of fun for a

1533
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: little while, so check it out.

1534
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bjorn Thorn, Bjornson, whatever you want to call him, Luke,

1535
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: he has had a pro fight. I guess his acount

1536
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: as a profile. I don't know he fought recently. I

1537
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: only know about this, will you. But also, my son

1538
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: Isaac has Eddie the Beast tall as his screensaver on

1539
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: his laptop. He loves, you know, he loves maybe getting

1540
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: inspiration from a man like that. So I'll be checking

1541
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: this out. It'll be interesting, Luke, It'll be sloppy. You'll

1542
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: probably see it on Mondays. Have you seen this shit?

1543
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 3: Luke?

1544
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: Is this one gonna go? Serious? Question? Do you think

1545
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: it makes it to the third round?

1546
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 4: I don't think they're No, they're gonna gas or I mean, look,

1547
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: that's a six inch height advantage.

1548
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: They have the same reach though, but the floor is

1549
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 2: a big dude, man, I don't know if get they

1550
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: could punch or deliver one. We're gonna find out, Luke.

1551
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the other thing. That's the other thing about

1552
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: this one too, is that most strongmen are, like the

1553
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: better ones are usually real tall. They're usually like six

1554
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: six six seven sixty eight. Bjornsen is six ' nine

1555
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: and he's only six ' three. That's a that for

1556
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: for a strong man that is short. That's not that

1557
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: that's not that big. So there's gonna be a little

1558
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: bit of a difference there, Luke.

1559
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: We all know that heavyweight unified heavyweight champion Alexander Russik

1560
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: is good is, you know, putting boxing on the back

1561
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: burner and joining many a pro athlete from Ukraine and

1562
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: good lord taking up arms on the front line. So

1563
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: the rematch with Anthony Joshua was certainly on hold. But

1564
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: another quick hitter here a j went to the eye

1565
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: and put this announcement out in let's see questionable grammatical

1566
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: form announcement soon come, Luke, What the hell does that mean?

1567
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's think about this. He lost to Usik So

1568
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: who the fuck knows what's gonna happen with that? So

1569
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: he must be taking a stay busy fight, right, and

1570
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: Dillion White's all booked up? What do you think?

1571
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: It can't be a Donk Luke. It can't be like

1572
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: a morning combat listener fight, you know what I mean?

1573
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: Like, come on, you're gonna fight? What about this? What

1574
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: do you fight at Chiazora?

1575
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah he could. I mean I wouldn't hate that.

1576
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean what would he fight the winner of Eddie

1577
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: the Beast Hall and Bjorn thornbag Er Maybe Luke? Maybe,

1578
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: who knows. Let's hope it's a big event.

1579
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: Thornbag will fucking thornback box your fucking ass up.

1580
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: Believe that, right, Luke. Another quick hitter, Jr. Mal Charlow,

1581
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: the WBC middleweight champion who has just announced he's gonna

1582
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: fight Machi Sulechki as part of the Showtime Boxing rollout,

1583
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: appeared alongside Paul Pierce of Showtime in NBA Fame on

1584
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: the Tyson Hot Boxing Pod and Old Lions Only got

1585
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: a little call out from Big Mike. Let's go to

1586
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: the video tape, hair.

1587
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Mike, Mike was pure pressuring the funk.

1588
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 3: Out of them, everything about Bena Vida. Would you fight him?

1589
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: I fight him for sure? Head?

1590
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: You know what?

1591
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: Why why did not letting you fight this guy? That

1592
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 3: guy got me? Call him the Mexican monks? Everybody scared

1593
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: of this guy? You want to fight?

1594
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: It's just things.

1595
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 4: Value is low, not worth as much as uh my god, dad,

1596
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 4: I'd rather like get one of the best in the

1597
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 4: world right now.

1598
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: They got a belt. And why you're not fighting. I'm

1599
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: just waiting for six years already to fight the next

1600
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: best guy, the Mexican monster. Who then the Vida?

1601
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: You know, Mexican monster. Scared we box, We're not scared

1602
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: of no human heart.

1603
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: Please call it. Listen, the whole world looking at you.

1604
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: Call these people that.

1605
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: It's the jamal To head man, Charlotte, let's get it.

1606
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: Who won't it?

1607
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: Name them names, names the Mexican month.

1608
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 2: Why is Mike dressed so nice? Normally he's like dripping

1609
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 2: on shrooms and barely showing up to there, Luke, is

1610
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: he right? Mike?

1611
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: Mike don't have time for these games. Man, Mike doesn't

1612
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: have any time for these games. I love it from him.

1613
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: By the way, I gotta tell you a lot of

1614
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: people were hitting me up, being like, why isn't Charloie

1615
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: fighting Devid Benavidez because we know Benavida's fighting THEMUX and

1616
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: you know he's kind of busy, and folks were asking,

1617
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: and then I'll say, Jamal has a fight against Leski,

1618
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: so you know, why didn't you just skip that and

1619
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: then go to these two? Dude, these boxers. I don't

1620
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: know how to explain this to people. It's not that

1621
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: these fights don't get brought up to them in the

1622
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: in the various negotiations at some point, but at some

1623
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: point it just kind of all falls apart. Now, BC,

1624
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: who do you blame? You want to blame Dami Videz,

1625
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: but at Benavidez you want to blame Charlot. I don't know,

1626
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: but I love Mike's attitude. Dude, you got to peer

1627
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: pressure of these guys to take it, and I think eventually, listen,

1628
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: I think eventually I'll say this, if Charlo looks good

1629
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: and Benavidez looks good, there's gonna be some real momentum

1630
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: behind this fight. But I listen, I like what Mike's doing. Dude,

1631
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: fucking pressure these and listen. We can't do that because

1632
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: we're not Mike Tyson, but Mike Tyson can be like YO,

1633
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: call those names by name.

1634
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: I think if there's any sort of corporate responses is like,

1635
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: would this fight be hard to make in theory? No,

1636
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: they both fight under the PBC banner for al Hayman,

1637
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: but it would be Jermal moving up in weight in Benevitez. Look,

1638
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: this is the only problem. I justn't have a title

1639
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: right As much as we say titles don't matter, just

1640
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: make the big fights. I'd love to see this fight

1641
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 2: right now. But if you make this fight, they're probably

1642
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 2: both gonna want a certain level of money that it

1643
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: might have to be a pay per view fight, and

1644
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: if there's no title at stake, you get it. We

1645
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: might have to build toward it, which is what we

1646
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: do in boxing.

1647
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: And a lot of people think that a lot of

1648
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: people are scared in boxing, and it's true. People do

1649
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: obviously obviously manicure the records, There's no doubt about it.

1650
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of guilty of it on some level. But

1651
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: the more I get into boxing, the more I'm like, dude,

1652
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: the way in which financial incentives, financial incentives structure deals

1653
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: and what gets made. We already knew that was important,

1654
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: but it's like way more important than you ever realized.

1655
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 1: It is really the driving determinant of of what happens.

1656
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, we gotta find a way to make that profitable.

1657
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: You gotta find a way to make that profitable, Luke.

1658
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people fighting this weekend, some like

1659
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: Eddie the Beast who've never done it before. How about

1660
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: this beast stepping forward MMA Fighting Zone and a friend

1661
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: of the larger combat sports community, e Casey led in

1662
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: the husband, of course of the goat when it comes

1663
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: to photography, correct, Luke, I mean the Goat.

1664
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also Casey is probably the most underrated important

1665
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: member of the MMA media that doesn't get heralded for

1666
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: his abilities too.

1667
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, he joined the Wimp to Warrior program and

1668
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna have his amateur MMA debut this Saturday in

1669
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. The card is Celtic or Celtic your choice,

1670
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: Gladiator thirty one. His only thing I know about his

1671
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: opponent is his last name is Frauendorf. If you do

1672
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: want more, Casey did a lengthy interview with Aery on

1673
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: m A Fighting and like you should shout out to

1674
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: him for taking this step Luke, we have a look

1675
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: of Casey's fighting shape here as we get closer. He's

1676
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 2: taken this very serious. He told Ariel he wants three

1677
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: fights before he gets out. Luke. He's a regular donk

1678
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 2: for the most part, like us, probably around our age.

1679
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: But dude, he's doing what a lot of us you know,

1680
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: can't won't. It's not even a conversation. He's going for it, Luke,

1681
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: much respect, Much respect. Luke. You know Casey a lot

1682
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: better than I do through the years. How do you

1683
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: sort of explain him taking this move here?

1684
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: I think Casey is one of the Casey has been

1685
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: involved intimately inside the m A business since the pro

1686
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Elite days, and you're like, who's pro Elite, right? Exactly.

1687
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: He's been doing it since then, and he's always just

1688
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: been a videographer, just kind of sticking the camera in

1689
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: everyone's face. But he's been in all the gyms, he

1690
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: knows all the fighters. He was Ariel's number one cameraman

1691
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: for all those years when Arioel was doing all of

1692
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: those on the ground interviews of the media days and

1693
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: everything else. When they did the walk and talk with

1694
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: Rampage and Connor, he was the guy backing up filming everything.

1695
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Casey has been at the forefront of MMA, either with

1696
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: Arial or anybody else for just a long time. And

1697
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: you talk to him at these fights, Dude, he knows

1698
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: so much. He knows just as much as you and I,

1699
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: if not more. It's really quite amazing to talk to him.

1700
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: And what happened from what I can tell from Afar,

1701
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: I've not seen the interview yet with Ariel, but what

1702
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 1: I can tell from Afar was that he was just

1703
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: always like just a regular dude basically who was good

1704
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: at videography. And then during the pandemic, he began to

1705
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: lose a lot of weight. He got his health in order,

1706
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: and I saw him forget one of the UFC shows,

1707
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: and I was shocked at how much weight he was.

1708
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: He was never fat or anything, but you know, just

1709
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: the dad bot or something, and then he lost a

1710
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: bunch of that weight, kind of taking his health seriously.

1711
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: And I guess, I guess have approached him and pitched

1712
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: him the idea. And here's a guy who has done

1713
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: everything you could possibly do inside of MMA, other than

1714
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: MMA itself, so I think he decided to give it

1715
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: a try, and I have just I couldn't have more

1716
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: respect from him. I want to make this clear. I

1717
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: know Esther gets a lot of credit, and every piece

1718
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: of credit she gets is well deserved. Please make no

1719
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: mistake about that. In fact, she probably doesn't even get enough.

1720
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: But I've long believed that Casey, in terms of his

1721
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: videography skills, both in terms of getting content fast to

1722
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: an editor and then making it so good, I just

1723
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: never had problems when he was my videographer. Shit arrived

1724
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: on time, it looked beautiful, it was shot well. He

1725
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: always has all the gear he needs.

1726
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 5: He did.

1727
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: He's a pros pro and his eye for videography is

1728
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: so special. I couldn't say enough nice things about Casey.

1729
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: I really couldn't.

1730
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: Of course, Esther land in long time show time, formerly

1731
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: fighting a legend herself in the game. Yeah, Luke, I'm look,

1732
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 2: obviously we're cheering for him here. This is this is

1733
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: this wild, this wild, you know, I mean this is wild, dude,

1734
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 2: this really wild.

1735
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: And to make yourself vulnerable like this in the way

1736
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: that he's doing, because you know, you go out there

1737
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: and lose and we won't really hold it against him,

1738
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: but you know that's obviously a source of pride, and

1739
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: he's put a ton of effort into this. It would

1740
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: obviously be hugely impactful for him. I really hope he

1741
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: goes out there and shines, because he and the.

1742
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Guy he's fighting is entered the same program, the whimp

1743
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: to Warrior and Luke. Just for reference, that's what Rich Chow,

1744
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: the former belt Or matchmaker left Beltour to go to

1745
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: full time. Correct.

1746
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Yes, if Corey's back there, if you can throw the

1747
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: poster up one more time, Wimp to Warrior did change

1748
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: their name. They're now called Alta A L T A.

1749
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: I guess it was a rebrand because the company has

1750
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: grown beyond what it normally was. And you could see

1751
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: there it's called the Gladiator Challenge or whatever it is.

1752
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: But Alta right above where it says Leyden versus Frauendorf,

1753
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: that's the name of the company. And they appear to be,

1754
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, on a high note themselves actually, So congrats

1755
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: to them. And I really wish nothing to Casey but

1756
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: the best of outcomes. And I'm really proud of him

1757
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: for doing this.

1758
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: What is Casey's East stand for? Luke?

1759
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 5: Uh?

1760
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: He's told me before.

1761
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 2: Because if you're gonna make that your name, people are

1762
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna ask does it stand for ecstasy? What does the

1763
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: stand for?

1764
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,919
Speaker 1: I've forgotten. He has told me before, I've forgotten.

1765
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: That's what they said. EMF. Remember that one hit wonder

1766
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: band EMF they had this song. Yeah, unbelievable.

1767
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh what the fuck? I'll just say, do if you ever,

1768
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: if anyone's out there watching this, and you ever get

1769
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: the chance to work with Casey, you will not regret it.

1770
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: You bother me with the old question. Yeah, I agree,

1771
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 2: I agree, Luke Schubert dip was that album? EMF? They

1772
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: said it stood for ecstasy? Motherfuckers? You know what I'm saying.

1773
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: Luke.

1774
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: You know that. You know that shit? Luke? You think

1775
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: he's older than us?

1776
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: Casey Leidense, Yes, he's older than us. He's like forty

1777
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: five forty six.

1778
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: Going after it? Uh, Luke? You HAVEC teasing a huge

1779
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: Abu Dabi announcement in the last twenty four hour, saying

1780
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty one October twenty second. According to the promotion,

1781
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: this will take place at Eddie hot Arena and cap

1782
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: off the Abu Dhabi Showdown week with a blockbuster event

1783
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: headlined by a crowd pleasing title bout. It's still unclear Luke,

1784
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 2: which champion will defend their belt there? Make a prediction

1785
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: for me. Who will be the main event of UFC

1786
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: two eighty one on October twenty second in Abu Dabi Dude?

1787
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: I would I couldn't possibly guess at this point. Probably Makachev.

1788
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he was calling for one that was one he

1789
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: wanted against dar Yush. I'm guessing I'll say that. How

1790
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 1: about that Makachev versus dar USh? That's that's the title.

1791
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 2: There ain't no titles for that, Luke.

1792
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: No, you could put an interim on.

1793
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: They just said it'd be a big title fight at

1794
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: the top. That's all I saying.

1795
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: What does that got to do with being interim or not?

1796
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: They'll say whatever.

1797
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: It could be John Jones versus Steepe for the interim belt.

1798
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: For all we know, Luke, right, for all we could be,

1799
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: It could be, could be.

1800
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: Could be finally, Luke and quickly, but Jake Paul's name

1801
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: got referenced once again on the Endeavor earnings call and

1802
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: Aria Annual. The CEO was asked by an investor point

1803
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: blank about the pressure Jake Paul has put on media

1804
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: wise for Fighter pay Ari came back Luke with some

1805
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 2: pro company quotes about how much they've paid the increase

1806
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: to fighters over the last decade plus. But Luke, obviously

1807
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 2: a lot of us in the know are going, yeah, bro,

1808
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: but you've increased your your earnings over that same period

1809
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: by like six hundred percent, Luke.

1810
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: Is he just.

1811
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Not with it? Or is this a calculated defense strategy

1812
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: on how to keep you if.

1813
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: You're the UFC. If you're the UFC, what are you

1814
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: supposed to do with all of this? Right? You have

1815
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: a you have a business model. You have a business

1816
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: model that allows you to keep upwards of eighty percent

1817
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: of the revenue. If you had a business this big

1818
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: with that kind of margin, you are going to try

1819
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: and hold onto that with all your might. You really are.

1820
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they don't use it, To his point,

1821
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: some of the some of the money in a very

1822
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: forward thinking way with the institutes and and everything else

1823
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: that they've done, and getting overseas deals and getting on

1824
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: television and massage in those markets, no doubt about it.

1825
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: That is true. But that's why they're gonna They're not

1826
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna do. They're not gonna let go of this business

1827
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: model until a mechanism that they cannot control forces them

1828
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: to a core order, a law, something, something where they

1829
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: actually have to comply. But short of that, they're gonna

1830
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: find anything they can say, and so they have these

1831
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: are totally disingenuous. It was I think it was uh

1832
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Laurence Epstein. He was accusing people of saying that fighter

1833
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: pay is bad as being somewhat disingenuous. I'm not sure

1834
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: around which argument specifically, But then he cites like, oh, well,

1835
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: Jake Paul's controlling and we see the sort of rise

1836
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: in workers uniting around like Amazon and Starbucks and whatnot,

1837
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: and and then fighters using it for leverage. Some of

1838
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: all of that is probably true that it feeds the

1839
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: current climate. But I'm gonna humbly submit to UBC. Maybe

1840
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: the reason that people think that they pay low is

1841
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: because we now have documents from them stating exactly what

1842
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: they pay and what their plans are for the future

1843
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: to keep it exactly there. Like he said, where does

1844
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: this sixteen or seventeen percent figure come from? From the

1845
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: court documents that UFC submitted.

1846
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: It's in their papers, Like where did it come from?

1847
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: The BC? The call is coming from inside the house,

1848
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: That's where it's coming from.

1849
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: Hi, do you like scary movies. Yeahuke, you like you?

1850
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Do you like? Do you like your your purse split

1851
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: between win and show?

1852
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah that don Ari Emanuel Luke. He's just

1853
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: swimming in money. He don't know the re he don't

1854
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: know the real Well.

1855
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: I saw a stat. I saw a stat for his

1856
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: yearly earnings. He got one hundred million more than what

1857
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: the entire UFC roster was paid last year. He got

1858
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: one hundred million more on top of it. So it's like, dude,

1859
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: like you and the UFC should be happy. Dude, they're

1860
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: making a shit ton of money. Good for them. They

1861
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: no one can say they didn't earn it.

1862
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised.

1863
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: You gotta share a little bit more.

1864
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: Marshall Rogan IU Luke as the reason why fighter pay

1865
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: has turned around. Luke, whatever the hell that means.

1866
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they reached out to me too. They seemed like

1867
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: nice folks.

1868
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: But is that named after Joe's dog?

1869
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they had to change it. They had to

1870
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 1: change it, so it was like mcmarshall Rogan INU and

1871
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: now it's just Marshall INU. So I don't I'm not.

1872
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I wish him luck, but I don't. I don't think

1873
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: that will solve the problem.

1874
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Luke. We get a lot wrong each

1875
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: week because I mean we're willing to stand in front

1876
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: of them es. We do for long periods and you

1877
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 2: email us about it. Morning Combat at gmail dot com

1878
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 2: is the home for your Wednesday fan subs. And on

1879
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: Friday when we look in the mirror, we get presented

1880
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: with the L. We read the receipt about the L

1881
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: and we would determine whether we should spread it wide

1882
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: and sit on that L. It's called did all righty then, Uh,

1883
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: this first one's from Lawry Laurie Lauri.

1884
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Spell it, spell it l A w R I E Laurie.

1885
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that spelling.

1886
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: That's just a fun way, right, Larry Lowry. Lawry on

1887
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Wednesday Show BC said, Alex, So, Luke, I've been pronounced

1888
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: I might get dead wrong for this. I've been pronouncing

1889
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: it Alex Padata, but it's really Alex what Peda?

1890
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I thought it was Pereira.

1891
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm just americanizing it.

1892
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: I know.

1893
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: I could just call him if you guys want me to.

1894
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: All right, I said that he knocked Israel out of

1895
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Sonia out in Glory Kickboxing when it was actually in

1896
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: a different promotion called Glory of Heroes. An easy mistake.

1897
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Heard it both ways, Love the show, Laurie Luke. Is

1898
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 2: this true?

1899
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is true, although for folks don't understand that

1900
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 1: happened at that event. But this is where it gets confusing.

1901
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Pareeda was also a double champ in real Glory, in

1902
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: actual Glory, so like that's where that's that's the that's

1903
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: the thing there.

1904
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: So it's a rival promotion though Glory of Heroes. Correct.

1905
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, I think it's a I'm not

1906
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: sure what it can't do.

1907
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Like, is not a subletting of Glory. I don't know. Look,

1908
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 2: you're you're the guy who used to work for Glory.

1909
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: In fact, my showbox producer, Richie Gone said he was

1910
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 2: your producer back when you used to suck it up

1911
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 2: as you said, for Glory.

1912
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Richie was the man. He probably tolerated how awful

1913
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I was at that job. But candidly, dude, once, once

1914
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: I was really sort of in all in on MMA

1915
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: fighting stuff. I didn't have much time for anything but MMA.

1916
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: So now I'm kind of branching back out.

1917
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: But look, you know they're pushing the ship. About of

1918
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 2: those adult film t shirts on the lower third just

1919
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: keeps coming out. We just put a full screen, Corey.

1920
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you trying to is ourj have

1921
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 2: a gun to your head right now? He's like, bro,

1922
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 2: we got to move those Oh oh now, Corey, this is.

1923
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, the listeners here, hun Corey, Corey, Corey did

1924
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the did the audience hear you there? Or no? Okay?

1925
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: So Corey says, here's what Corey said. Corey said he

1926
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: was instructed anytime there's a sexual reference to put the

1927
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: shirt on the screen. BC is now amazed at having

1928
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: his sexual references thrown back at him, was like, wow,

1929
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: these are a lot, Yes, BC, they are a lot.

1930
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, what message are we putting out there to

1931
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: the people? All right? This is from Nicholas nik La

1932
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Las Nicholas Hi guys. During episode on February twenty fifth,

1933
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 2: a Friday, at nine minutes and ten seconds, Luke is

1934
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: proudly showing his bookshelf in the studio. He calls Thomas

1935
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 2: Piquetti's famous work Capitalism. This is dead wrong. It is

1936
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 2: not even named capitalism. The book sexual name is capital

1937
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 2: In the twenty first century. I suppose Luke, like myself,

1938
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: likes to show off by having the book in the shelf,

1939
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: but has never taken the time to read this piece

1940
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,520
Speaker 2: of complicated economics best regards from Stockholm.

1941
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: Sweet, Okay, wow, he's he's mostly right. He's mostly right.

1942
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: I'll take a little bit of an l there. It's

1943
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: not technically true, but here's my rule, BC, here's my

1944
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: rule on these books. For sure, this is one hundred

1945
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 1: percent true. It's either a book I fully read or

1946
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: a book I partly read, as like a chapter or

1947
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: two for college. If it was like a reference book.

1948
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: So if I've cracked it or used it at at

1949
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: a class, or I read it fully, it's on here.

1950
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: The Piketty book a friend told me about. He was like,

1951
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: you got to read this because it is primate. This

1952
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: is the only thing I read. It's a I think

1953
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: the book is like seven or eight hundred pages. It's

1954
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: fucking huge. I've read maybe thirty pages on one small

1955
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 1: little argument about income inequality and where it went. So

1956
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,520
Speaker 1: it's not technically true that he's right, but he's mostly fucking.

1957
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 2: Right, believe it. So, like me going, okay, what record,

1958
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 2: what piece of Vinyl. Can I order that I haven't

1959
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: listened to, but that people are going to think I'm

1960
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 2: super cool and put it up there on the shelf.

1961
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Luke cool?

1962
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. It was I was. I was

1963
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: just trying to fill it up with something that I

1964
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: thought was interesting. I'll take the other I'll take.

1965
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 2: I wonder why Ashley didn't buy your books initially? Hey, Luke,

1966
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: you made all the other ones that I've read. I've

1967
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: read almost cover to cover. Hey, Ale, shout out to Ashley. Okay,

1968
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: Ashley A she really helped us out today, Luke gaff

1969
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: was off and I'm sending him all these last minute

1970
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: videos to put up.

1971
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: You should have heard Ashley complaining. I mean she was pissed,

1972
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: right yeah.

1973
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: I think she's unhappy because every time I see her,

1974
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you are you still engaged? Is this

1975
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: still did you give it up yet? Is this still happening?

1976
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: And Luke, I don't mean that nefariously or grossly. I

1977
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: just sort of like, hey, Luke, you know you're still alive?

1978
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 2: Everything good? Okay? Cool?

1979
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: You know it's like yeah, yeah, you're like, you know,

1980
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: you just see cancer patients and you go. Don't you

1981
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: go dying on me. I'm just saying I like dumb

1982
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 1: and dumber.

1983
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Luke. Michael says, hey, guys, I love

1984
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 2: your show, but I'm just dropping in with this quick

1985
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: dead wrong. On Monday, March fourteenth, BC was dead wrong

1986
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 2: when he called Chris Mutino Alex Mutino. Who the fuck

1987
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: is Alex Mutino?

1988
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: BC?

1989
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: I gotta get some athletic greens since you guys are

1990
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: sponsored by it, but I think I'll pass because obviously

1991
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: it don't do shit for brain health. Considering BC's cognitive

1992
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: functions are less reliable than a flaming bag of shit,

1993
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I'll stick to smoking weed, thank you, Michael.

1994
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, he wants you to know he likes marijuana.

1995
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Busy, Yes, sir, this is an RBS. Wow, I guess

1996
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. Is that my wrong?

1997
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 3: Luke?

1998
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 2: Who the hell's Alex Mutinos? That soccer coach or something.

1999
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh, there's just Jose Mourinho, but that's not muten.

2000
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: That's who I'm proud. Now who's let me type it in.

2001
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 2: Who's Alex Mutino? Let's see the guy's got on Instagram.

2002
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 2: He's a he's a crossfitter.

2003
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 3: Luke.

2004
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, crossfitter.

2005
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I was looking at his DMS and it

2006
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 2: was just subconscious. At least I didn't say, like, you know,

2007
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: a UFC straweight or something. Right, Luke, this is from

2008
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Caesar again. Caesar's back. This is the final dead wrong Luke, Hey, Luke,

2009
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: you old bitch. On Wednesday's edition of MK, you said

2010
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall hasn't even tasted the second round when he

2011
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 2: infects submitted as andre Arlovsky in round two. You're still

2012
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: my favorite washed vaping donk. But when you're wrong, you're wrong.

2013
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I got that wrong. Sorry about that.

2014
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,799
Speaker 1: My brain doesn't work very well anymore.

2015
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 2: You need more athletic greens, Luke.

2016
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I need a lot more than athletic. As good as

2017
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: it is, I think I need a little more help them.

2018
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Like does athletic greens make a vaping cartridge? I'll just

2019
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: I'll just ingest that ship that way. Yeah all right,

2020
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: Uh Luke, I think he.

2021
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Did tele fans about his athletic greens the most disgusting

2022
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: swamp water tadpole I've ever.

2023
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 3: Seen my ros.

2024
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: So here's what I do. You're only allowed one scoop

2025
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 2: of ag one in your water per.

2026
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: You can have more, motherfucker, you don't need just one.

2027
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean, no, I think it's just one. I think

2028
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: too much would be too much good stuff for you, Luke. Right,

2029
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: So I take the scoop, I put it in a

2030
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 2: water bottle. I fill that water bottle, but I don't

2031
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 2: shake it aggressively, Luke. So then when I'm you know,

2032
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: nine tenths done with the first water bottle, there's still

2033
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: a good amount of compound at the bottom. So then

2034
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: I refill it with water, and Luke, by the end

2035
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: of it, I get six or seven full jugs here,

2036
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 2: all tasting like athletic greens. Now, look to me, it's

2037
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 2: the same marriage bed, Luke. Is it a little gross?

2038
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 5: Is there?

2039
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 4: You know?

2040
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you're not inside here, you know what

2041
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like this is like, I don't think that's

2042
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, is it like me openly dipping? No, it's

2043
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: not that gross, Luke.

2044
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: Just just start drinking your own piss. You might as

2045
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: well just be a piss drinker, BC, the piss drinker.

2046
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody. Look, I don't think this show

2047
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 2: kept our hitting streak alive of just getting better every episode.

2048
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: But Luke, we are award winning. We are coming on

2049
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 2: and uh you and I next week, Luke, We're gonna

2050
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 2: broadcast Morning Combat at least one time from a new location,

2051
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: are we not?

2052
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes, we are. We're gonna have a new location for

2053
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: that Wednesday show, if memory serves, I think that's right.

2054
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun.

2055
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Luke and I taking our towns to South Beach.

2056
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 2: Got some important business to do, some important content to make.

2057
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Maybe some celebrities involved, we'll see, Luke. Okay, a lot

2058
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 2: of famous people that live in South Florida. Okay, and

2059
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: a corner Cova.

2060
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: Does she live in South Florida?

2061
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm assuming she's married to what's his name?

2062
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Right?

2063
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: He's Miami based.

2064
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:39,799
Speaker 6: I don't know who she's married to, Not Ricky Martin,

2065
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 6: the other guy, Luke, the other guy who the other.

2066
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: Prominent early two thousands singer of songs like by the

2067
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 2: Most Let the Rhythm take you over, Luke.

2068
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Enrique Iglesias there it is.

2069
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Yep, they've been married since two thousand and one, Luke,

2070
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 2: are you trying to say this? Did you say he

2071
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: was from Miami?

2072
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,959
Speaker 1: He lives in Miami, right, Enrique Iglesias is Spanish?

2073
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 2: Is he not allowed to live in Miami, which has

2074
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: a huge Spanish culture.

2075
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Luke, you mean Hispanic culture. I don't know how much

2076
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Spanish culture has done the big difference.

2077
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good, good time to get out of

2078
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 2: the show now, dude.

2079
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic and Mexico is Hispanic culture that is widely

2080
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: distinct from Spain Spanish culture. They are not the same.

2081
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: They are very very different.

2082
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: Look, there's a lot of Spanish being spoken in South Florida. Okay,

2083
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: that's all.

2084
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of English being spoken in America. That

2085
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: don't mean we have tea with the fucking Queen's a

2086
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: big difference, bro, big difference.

2087
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you motherfucker right, you know what

2088
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, like, who do you like? Who do

2089
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 2: you think you're educating right now?

2090
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,759
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, there's just a difference. Spanish culture from Spain

2091
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: is widely distinct from a lot of the other Spanish

2092
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 1: speaking cultures from the Western hemisphere.

2093
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 2: There lives in Miami. What did I say he might

2094
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 2: live in Miami.

2095
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a difference.

2096
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: Goddamn, Because before that she was banging Pavel Butrey when

2097
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: he lived in Miami playing for the damn what do

2098
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 2: you call it?

2099
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: Luke?

2100
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 5: Right? Uh?

2101
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Who is that?

2102
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: Pavel bay Ba remember him? He was my brain doesn't

2103
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: work anymore and from the Vancouver Canucks. Luke he was

2104
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: the you couldn't handle him on NHL ninety four on

2105
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 2: Sega remember yes, yes, yes, he played with the Panthers

2106
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 2: l but they claim, Luke, they claim that he did

2107
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 2: like a uh Pat Berry and whoever, uh whoever aspen

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Speaker 2: Lads coaches. They claimed that he did one of those

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Speaker 2: with her.

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Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, well, it's a free country.

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Speaker 2: You can recruit. It's a free country. Luke. Okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: how did you know? The Really the real question is

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Speaker 2: how do we end up here? That's the real question, Luke.

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Speaker 1: The good news is we don't have to stay here.

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Speaker 1: We can just go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go home. Corey's right. We'll be in Florida

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Speaker 2: next week and we'll be giving you just just great ship,

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Speaker 2: great content. Go to Morning Coombat Dot store. Take a

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Speaker 2: test ride with our merch. I don't think you're going

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Speaker 2: to be disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's always there for you, all right. You can always

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Speaker 2: put it on no matter what you're doing. All right looke.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to thank anybody? Do you want to

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Speaker 2: shout anybody out?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I want to thank the entire Malka crew this

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Speaker 1: past week, who I know were in some cases shorthanded

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Speaker 1: or another cases had a lot of stuff sprung on

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Speaker 1: them at the last minute, and they really thought did

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Speaker 1: a pretty admirable job trying to accommodate all of our

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Speaker 1: many requests and challenges, especially on the fly. So I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate what they do when we're in studio. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much.

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Speaker 2: That's very heartful. I appreciate that Showtime dot Com We'll

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Speaker 2: get you thirty days free. Bela Tour Championship Boxing w

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Speaker 2: kmal Bell is incredible. We need to talk about Bill

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Speaker 2: Cosby documentary series. Check out all that and then some tall,

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Speaker 2: pale and handsome Fridays with BC is about art. But

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Speaker 2: we're about to put this thing in the books. Corey

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Speaker 2: Meniche on the ones and twos. Thank you, sir. I

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Speaker 2: continue to encourage you that while this is your career

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Speaker 2: from now, your passions and music get there, get there.

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Speaker 1: He's not responding.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Casey led and good luck to

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Speaker 2: you this weekend. Sir. We respect you. All as well.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the fights. Fans. Thank you for for your support,

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Speaker 2: like subscribe, we don't. We don't do anything without you.

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Speaker 2: And if you keep voting us to for awards, who

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Speaker 2: knows what's gonna happen next. Luke can't look. I gotta

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Speaker 2: find out if we won that shit I got, I

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Speaker 2: mean and we got. You know, we didn't shout it out.

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Speaker 2: We were in the studio on Wednesday and we had

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Speaker 2: our People's Choice Influencer Award there as well. Luke, the

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Speaker 2: hardware is just piling up, Okay, piling.

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Speaker 1: Up, So we'll see what else happens as we move forward.

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Speaker 2: All right, For Luke Thomas, for the great staff that

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Speaker 2: makes this show possible. My name is Brian Campbell, Showtime Malchas,

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. Thank you for your patronage, ri Ip, Bob

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Speaker 2: Saggott and Kobe and anyone else that that we've lost.

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Speaker 2: Two words.

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Speaker 1: We're about to lose. We're about to lose the viewers.

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Speaker 2: Let's call it lose our sponsors. We out, we out