Speaker 1: I guess what will what's that man? So I was
Speaker 1: looking at letters of note this week and there was
Speaker 1: this thank you note I found that I was stunned by.
Speaker 1: It's from Clyde Barrow. Clyde, Oh is that is that
Speaker 1: Clyde of Bonnie and Clyde. That's right? And he wrote
Speaker 1: a thank you note to Henry Ford. So here's what
Speaker 1: it reads. While I still have got breadth in my lungs,
Speaker 1: I will tell you what a dandy car you make.
Speaker 1: I have drove forwards exclusively when I could get away
Speaker 1: with one, for sustained speed and freedom from trouble. The
Speaker 1: Ford has got every other car skinned. And even if
Speaker 1: my business had been strictly legal, it don't hurt anything
Speaker 1: to tell you what a fine car you got in
Speaker 1: the V eight yours truly Clyde Champion Barrow. No is
Speaker 1: this is this real? So there is some question about that.
Speaker 1: But it was sent from Tulsa when Clyde Barrow was
Speaker 1: tooling through the area, and according to Stokes, it was
Speaker 1: very much his style of humor. But I was learning
Speaker 1: about gratitude, and it turns out that counting your blessings
Speaker 1: and writing thank you notes like this one actually help
Speaker 1: you sleep better at night, And according to the Journal
Speaker 1: of Psychosomatic Research, you should count blessings not cheap because
Speaker 1: you actually have more positive thoughts before you sleep, which
Speaker 1: soothes the nervous system and helps people sleep better and longer.
Speaker 1: So maybe an outlaw like Clyde actually had a really
Speaker 1: good reason for thanking Henry Ford. But learning about this
Speaker 1: story made us wonder what are some of the other
Speaker 1: scientific benefits of gratitude. Do human brains start with a
Speaker 1: negative bias? And how much can being thankful and really
Speaker 1: help our lives. So that's what we're digging into. Let's
Speaker 1: dive in. Hey, their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius.
Speaker 1: I'm Will Pearson and is always I'm joined by my
Speaker 1: friend man guess how Ticketer and sitting behind the soundproof
Speaker 1: glass bell thing out the theme song to Golden Girls.
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, he's been playing this what do
Speaker 1: you Say? Mango for like three hours over Oh he
Speaker 1: loves that thank you for being a friend line. It
Speaker 1: just puts the biggest smile on his face and I
Speaker 1: love to see that. That's our friend and producer Tristan McNeil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knew he was such a fan. Well, I know
Speaker 1: he loves the eighties, but yeah, you're right. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he was such a big fan of this one.
Speaker 1: But anyway, turn it down, Tristan, it's time to get
Speaker 1: focused here. And I know we wanted to talk about gratitude,
Speaker 1: and I thought there'd be no better person to discuss
Speaker 1: this than with our good friend and author A. J. Jacobs. Now,
Speaker 1: if for some reason you don't know A. J's work,
Speaker 1: he's done all sorts of amazing feeds, from reading the
Speaker 1: entire encyclopedia for his book That Know It All, to
Speaker 1: following every rule in the Bible for the year of
Speaker 1: living Biblically. And now he's got a new book all
Speaker 1: about living a more thoughtful life called Thanks a Thousand. A. J. Jacobs,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. Well, thank you, of course,
Speaker 1: thank you. I have to say that, but I also
Speaker 1: mean it. Well, J. Tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: this book. You chose to thank every person who helped
Speaker 1: bring a cup of coffee to your lips. But why
Speaker 1: don't you give you this idea? And why do you
Speaker 1: choose coffee over I don't know, cheese or white wine
Speaker 1: or something else. M hmm. That's good. I could do
Speaker 1: sequels on those. I like both of those. Back when
Speaker 1: I was writing The Year of Living Biblically, the book
Speaker 1: you just referenced, and that one was about where I
Speaker 1: tried to follow the Bible as literally as possible, uh
Speaker 1: ten commandments. I grew a huge beard. I stoned people adulterers.
Speaker 1: I stoned adulterers, but using small pebbles so I didn't
Speaker 1: get arrested. The Bible says that you should say prayers
Speaker 1: of thanksgiving, so I would do that, and uh, I
Speaker 1: actually found it quite meaningful. But when the project was over, UH,
Speaker 1: I wanted to continue in some way, but it felt
Speaker 1: a little odd because I'm agnostic, so thanking God seemed
Speaker 1: a little strange. So instead I tweaked it and decided,
Speaker 1: before a meal with my wife and kids, I would
Speaker 1: thank some of the people who helped, you know, the
Speaker 1: farmer who grew the tomatoes and the woman at the
Speaker 1: grocery who sold me the tomatoes. And my my kids
Speaker 1: tolerated it for a while and then my son said,
Speaker 1: you know, Dad, uh, those people can't hear you. If
Speaker 1: you really believe this, you should thank them in person.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that is a good idea. That
Speaker 1: is actually a book idea. So thank you for helping
Speaker 1: my job. Um and uh, I decided to do it
Speaker 1: and it was it was a wild experience. I went
Speaker 1: all over the world and made me realize that it's
Speaker 1: all interconnected. Every little thing we do in life has
Speaker 1: hundreds thousands of people involved that we take for granted.
Speaker 1: I decided costs or first of all, coffee. You know,
Speaker 1: I do love it. I have it every morning, and
Speaker 1: it's just such a huge part of modern life. You know,
Speaker 1: there's two billion cups of coffee consumed every day around
Speaker 1: the world. And uh, a'm floys a hundred twenty five
Speaker 1: million people. So I I thought, all right, let's do
Speaker 1: the coffee. Wow, that is unbelievable. Hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: he said. Five million people employed by this industry somehow, right,
Speaker 1: And that's not counting, as I say, sort of, the
Speaker 1: the people who are adjacent, the people who you know,
Speaker 1: make the steel for the coffee roasters so that they work. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: you know, if you include that, you can get up
Speaker 1: to I'm sure however you define it, you can get
Speaker 1: it up to you know, a billion or two billion. Well,
Speaker 1: with with that in mind, how do you even start
Speaker 1: when you embark on a project like this, it definitely
Speaker 1: feels overwhelming. So how did you decide which thousand people
Speaker 1: to thank? I mean, and should you have thanked Beyonce
Speaker 1: in the process. Yeah, you could thank her because you
Speaker 1: could make the argument the chemist who designed the plastic
Speaker 1: lining for my coffee cup listen to Beyonce while studying
Speaker 1: for her example. But I just followed what fascinated me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to focus on for five or six stories
Speaker 1: that I thought were really surprising and touching. I started
Speaker 1: with the barista at my local New York coffee shop,
Speaker 1: who was lovely and who told me, you're encountering people
Speaker 1: in a very dangerous situation pre caffeination. And she said
Speaker 1: the worst part is people just treat her like a
Speaker 1: vending machine. They don't look up from their phones. They
Speaker 1: just thrust their credit card in her direction. So I made,
Speaker 1: uh the pledge that I would, you know, actually make
Speaker 1: eye contact with people that I'm and I know I
Speaker 1: deserve a Nobel prize for that. Uh but uh, but
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a small gesture, but it's so
Speaker 1: it has such outsized impact to to actually look at
Speaker 1: someone in the eyes when you're dealing with them instead
Speaker 1: of at your phone. I really love that, you know what.
Speaker 1: One of the things, as he mentioned a little earlier,
Speaker 1: was about how important the coffee lids are for for
Speaker 1: the cups, and I was curious if you could expand
Speaker 1: on that a little bit more. Oh yes, so the
Speaker 1: lids I did not know. You know, I could have
Speaker 1: written a book on lids. Probably would not have sold many,
Speaker 1: but it was fascinating to see every little thing has
Speaker 1: so much behind it. And I talked to the designer
Speaker 1: of the lid for my coffee cups and he was
Speaker 1: so passionate about it, and he was very innovative. He
Speaker 1: was sort of like an Elon Musk of coffee lids,
Speaker 1: hopefully a little more emotionally stable. And he thinks the
Speaker 1: problem is the lids will block the aroma, which is
Speaker 1: a huge part of the coffee experience. So he made
Speaker 1: a bigger hole in the middle. Um he made this. Uh.
Speaker 1: The shape is like this inverted uh hexagon, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the buckminster Fuller type uh shape and uh so
Speaker 1: you can really get your nose in and get max
Speaker 1: of him a roma. And it is just hilarious how
Speaker 1: much thought goes into uh this, this little piece of plastic,
Speaker 1: and it made me realize there are there are hundreds
Speaker 1: of these these mini masterpieces. So I actually loved the
Speaker 1: little sides of people who should have been thanked. And
Speaker 1: one of the people you bring up in your book
Speaker 1: is Jonas Salk, who we all know figured out the
Speaker 1: vaccine for polio, but for most of us who've heard
Speaker 1: of him, he's treated as kind of a loan genius. Like,
Speaker 1: why do you think more people weren't recognized for that discovery? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: that is one of the big themes of my book
Speaker 1: is that it takes hundreds of people for every advance,
Speaker 1: and psychologists call it the responsibility bias, that we just
Speaker 1: like to focus on the one person and say, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the loan genius. And Jonas Salk is a perfect
Speaker 1: example of that. And he invented the polio vaccine or
Speaker 1: a polio vaccine, and he was like the superhero. He
Speaker 1: was along on the cover of Time magazine and he
Speaker 1: gave a speech saying how great he was basically for
Speaker 1: conventing the vaccine, but he neglected to thank all the
Speaker 1: people in his lab, and there were tons of people
Speaker 1: in his lab. There are tons of people who made
Speaker 1: scientific advances, like on growing polio, so you could actually
Speaker 1: do the experiments on the polio uh and and they
Speaker 1: were very upset with which I think is understandable. So
Speaker 1: we as humans have this bias to feature the one person,
Speaker 1: and I totally as an author, I play into that.
Speaker 1: You know, this book says it's by A. J. Jacobs,
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous because a truthful cover would say by
Speaker 1: you know, the words by A. J. Jacobs. Here's the design.
Speaker 1: You know, it would have like two hundred fifty people
Speaker 1: on the cover. And I actually proposed that to my publisher,
Speaker 1: and I thought that might be an interesting sort of
Speaker 1: marketing angle. But I do have a list in the
Speaker 1: back of a thousand people who helped with the coffee
Speaker 1: and my book. Speaking of being grateful and especially in
Speaker 1: this sense, what are some of the scientific benefits of
Speaker 1: being grateful? And you know, like does it have an
Speaker 1: impact on our health or happiness? There are studies that
Speaker 1: show you you know, it'll lift depression, it will help
Speaker 1: you sleep, improve your diet. Uh. I like this one
Speaker 1: study that indicated that gratitude causes you to be more
Speaker 1: generous to strangers. If you're feeling grateful, you're more likely
Speaker 1: to help others. There's studies on how it boosts athletic performance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I love that you
Speaker 1: thanked a thousand people and now you're gonna, like be
Speaker 1: drafted for the NBA or okay, exactly, I should try
Speaker 1: out now that I'm so grateful. Many people we have
Speaker 1: the negative bias, which was very helpful when we were
Speaker 1: cave people trying to uh get away from lions. But
Speaker 1: but going through the world with a negative bias and
Speaker 1: only focusing on those three or four things that go wrong,
Speaker 1: it's not great for our mood. So this really has
Speaker 1: helped me to focus on the hundreds of things that
Speaker 1: go right every day as opposed to the three or
Speaker 1: four that go wrong, and just making a conscious effort.
Speaker 1: Like when I was at the airport, uh the other day,
Speaker 1: I I'm always annoyed because my gate is always the
Speaker 1: one that's a mile and a half walk. It drives
Speaker 1: me crazy. But I realized that's not true. That's just
Speaker 1: what I remember because I remember the annoying ones. And
Speaker 1: so every time the other day I was at a gate,
Speaker 1: like you go through security and it's right there, and
Speaker 1: I say, you know what, I'm gonna make a note
Speaker 1: of that. I'm gonna remember pay attention, and next time
Speaker 1: I try to complain to myself, I'm gonna say, that's wrong,
Speaker 1: You're you're being irrational. I I know, I've read these
Speaker 1: studies before that if you've fake smiling, it'll actually eventually
Speaker 1: make you happier. And I was curious, is that possible
Speaker 1: with gratitude, to like, can you fake gratitude and and
Speaker 1: end up being more grateful in the process? Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: the answer is yeah, and there are studies and from
Speaker 1: an anecdotal point of view, totally because I you know,
Speaker 1: I would wake up in my default mood of grumpiness
Speaker 1: and I would during this project, I would force myself
Speaker 1: every day to spend a couple of hours either writing
Speaker 1: thank you notes or uh calling people cold calling or
Speaker 1: visiting people uh to thank them for their role in
Speaker 1: my coffee. And it had an effect on me, and
Speaker 1: it had the the ideal as if it has a
Speaker 1: good effect on that. You know, some people I would
Speaker 1: call and they'd be like, what's going on? Is this
Speaker 1: a pyramid scheme? What are you trying to do? But
Speaker 1: I would call the woman who does the pest control
Speaker 1: for the coffee, the warehouse where the coffee beans are
Speaker 1: word and I'd say, I know this sounds strange, but
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for helping keep the insects
Speaker 1: out of my coffee. And she would say, well, that
Speaker 1: does sound a little strange, but that that's lovely and
Speaker 1: that helped make my day and you know, it made
Speaker 1: me feel better, you know, A j There's this little
Speaker 1: aside in the book that I really liked, and it's
Speaker 1: about how a friend of yours has this trick for
Speaker 1: counting her blessings and this is before she goes to sleep,
Speaker 1: and she uses the alphabet to do this. Can you
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: love and that has worked for me, this idea of
Speaker 1: when you're going to sleep, instead of counting sheep, do
Speaker 1: this little trick, which is go through the alphabet and
Speaker 1: come up with one thing for every letter that you
Speaker 1: are thankful for. So you know, I could be anything
Speaker 1: related to your life. You know, A is for the
Speaker 1: apple pancakes and my my husband makes on Saturday mornings,
Speaker 1: or what have you. It gets you enough outside of
Speaker 1: yourself for me that you fall asleep as opposed to
Speaker 1: stressing about all of the things you have to do
Speaker 1: the next day. That's really wonderful. Well, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: back with A. J. Jacobs right after this break. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Part Time Genius, where we're talking to author A. J. Jacobs. Now,
Speaker 1: A J. I want you to talk to us a
Speaker 1: little bit about nostalgia. I know you used to have
Speaker 1: a calm at mental flass that talked about how things
Speaker 1: used to be and falling into this trap of the
Speaker 1: good old days? But what was coffee like in the
Speaker 1: good old days? And should we be grateful for how
Speaker 1: it's evolved? Oh? Yeah, I mean I love talking about that.
Speaker 1: The good old days were not good at all. They
Speaker 1: were They were horrible day where disease ridden, smell a racist, homophobic, sexist,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And yeah, coffee, you are very lucky
Speaker 1: that you were not drinking coffee in the nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: You did not know what you were getting. There was
Speaker 1: no FBA. So you know, the list of things that
Speaker 1: adulterated coffee in the past is quite impressive. You know, sawdust,
Speaker 1: dog biscuits, lead arsenic, something called monkey nuts, which I
Speaker 1: don't actually think is the private parts of animals. It
Speaker 1: was a sort of plant from South America. But I
Speaker 1: am very grateful for coffee for saving the United States,
Speaker 1: at least that's my theory. The because in the Civil War,
Speaker 1: the North had real coffee, caffeinated coffee, but the South
Speaker 1: had no real coffee. The naval blockade blocked it, so
Speaker 1: they had to make bake coffee out of chicory and
Speaker 1: like roasted corn and asparagus seeds and all sorts of
Speaker 1: ridiculous stuff. But you know, they were not caffeinated. So
Speaker 1: North was caffinated. And I think it could have been
Speaker 1: the deciding factor. Will never know, but I like to think. So. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: you you did talk about a friend who happens to
Speaker 1: be a professor that reminded you that you do have
Speaker 1: to be honest, even in a book about gratitude about
Speaker 1: coffees good and bad qualities. And so with that in mind,
Speaker 1: along the way, you decided to thank a major petroleum company.
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm curious one, you know, why did
Speaker 1: you do that and to how did it make you
Speaker 1: feel when you decided to do that? Right, it made
Speaker 1: me realize the coffee could not have gotten to me
Speaker 1: without oil. And you know, it powers the ships and
Speaker 1: the trucks that bring it to me. So I figured
Speaker 1: I had to thank Exxon because they were that's what
Speaker 1: the trucks used. But I also think that Exxon is
Speaker 1: probably doing some horrible things to our planet. So I
Speaker 1: wrote what I think might be the most passive aggressive
Speaker 1: thank you note in the history of thank you notes
Speaker 1: to the CEO of Exxon, where I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your role in getting me my coffee. I
Speaker 1: love coffee. I hope it's around in fifty undred years
Speaker 1: and that are planet doesn't explode from overuse of fossil fuels.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that had a huge impact. We're
Speaker 1: just we're just waiting. I'm sure that some of those
Speaker 1: policy changes are coming pretty soon because of you exactly.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to hear about your experiences at the
Speaker 1: coffee warehouse because I saw a line in the book
Speaker 1: about gay moths and I was curious to hear a
Speaker 1: little bit more about that. Oh yeah, so that was
Speaker 1: I did check up on this, and and it appears
Speaker 1: to be true. But they have, you know, they have
Speaker 1: a pest problem at the warehouse because they have the
Speaker 1: amount of coffee there. It was, if I believe it
Speaker 1: was five football fields, Big phil stacked with coffee fifteen
Speaker 1: feet high. You know, it could make a billion cups
Speaker 1: of coffee so that you know, of course insects enjoy
Speaker 1: their coffee. So but they had found some novel strategy
Speaker 1: for getting rid of the moths and it had to
Speaker 1: do with releasing a far genome that made the male
Speaker 1: moths not attracted to females so that they wouldn't, uh,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't mate and have baby moths. And I looked
Speaker 1: into it and it seemed to have some scientific package,
Speaker 1: so uh, yeah, I don't know it was. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm all for uh, moths identifying in any way they
Speaker 1: want and their fluidity and moths is fine by me. Um,
Speaker 1: and I guess it's better than killing them. So there
Speaker 1: you go. Now, we've we've got a bunch of stories
Speaker 1: on coffee over the years, both at Mental Floss and
Speaker 1: now Here a part time genius. And I've read about
Speaker 1: coffee cherries before, but I didn't realize that you can
Speaker 1: actually eat them. So I'm curious, what does a coffee
Speaker 1: cherry taste like? Yeah, coffees grow on trees and uh
Speaker 1: and the fruit looks like a cherry or a grape tomato.
Speaker 1: It's red and inside is the coffee bean. And what's weird.
Speaker 1: It's a very paradoxical fruit because you've got If you
Speaker 1: taste the fruit, it's quite sweet, but the but the
Speaker 1: bean is bitter. And there's the legend of how coffee
Speaker 1: was discovered. I guess people didn't need it, but the
Speaker 1: legend is that called the the Ethiopian goatherd, and Millennia
Speaker 1: passed saw his goats eating the the cherries and like
Speaker 1: flipping out and just dancing and bouncing around, and he's like, huh,
Speaker 1: that looks fun, and so he uh started to eat him.
Speaker 1: You know, I did think collect heard in the book,
Speaker 1: but ever existed. That's a great point. I didn't and
Speaker 1: that is an oversight. Thank you. In the follow up edition,
Speaker 1: I will so. One of the facts that struck me
Speaker 1: was that if you actually paid minimum wage to everyone
Speaker 1: involved in the process, you're write that a cup of
Speaker 1: coffee would cost Is that right? Well, there was one
Speaker 1: calculation from one team. I can't swear that that's true,
Speaker 1: but yeah it was. It's weird because you pay three
Speaker 1: dollars for this little cup of brown liquid. You know,
Speaker 1: one part of me is like, this is ridiculous, This
Speaker 1: is yeah crazy. Uh, but once you look into the
Speaker 1: supply chain, there are so many hundreds of people, and
Speaker 1: it has to travel so far, and if you paid
Speaker 1: minimum wage to the people who were working in the
Speaker 1: developing countries, then the coffee should actually be twenty five dollars.
Speaker 1: Some people are afraid that beings super grateful makes you complacent,
Speaker 1: And there was a Barbara Aaron Reich, the writer. She
Speaker 1: wrote a New York Times op ed that said, you
Speaker 1: know gratitude is She said it was basically a right
Speaker 1: wing conspiracy to keep people from making real reforms, like
Speaker 1: Walmart workers would be so grateful for their for minimum
Speaker 1: wage or whatever they can paid that they wouldn't object.
Speaker 1: But luckily, the research says the exact opposite. It actually
Speaker 1: says the more grateful you are, the more likely you
Speaker 1: are to advocate for change. I'm curious, what was it
Speaker 1: like to thank the people who plucked and produced the
Speaker 1: coffee cherries in Colombia? Like, how did they respond when
Speaker 1: you thank them? I think they were a bit confused
Speaker 1: as to my project. But in the end, I think
Speaker 1: I got through and I tried to make it as
Speaker 1: vivid as possible, which is what they say the best
Speaker 1: ways of thanking. You know, I said, you, you know,
Speaker 1: every morning I drink the coffee that you that you
Speaker 1: guys make possible, and and I couldn't do my job
Speaker 1: or take care of my kids without your coffee, so
Speaker 1: thank you. And and they did come around, and they
Speaker 1: actually said that they couldn't do their job without a
Speaker 1: hundred other people. And they talked about, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the pickup truck that they drive is made from parts
Speaker 1: all over the world, and the machine that takes the
Speaker 1: skin off of the coffee cherry that's made in Brazil.
Speaker 1: They didn't Jonas Salka and just take all the credit
Speaker 1: for all the coffee exactly that it's all us. Uh No,
Speaker 1: they were very nice. Stay right there, Listeners will be
Speaker 1: back with A. J. Jacobs after the break. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Part Time Genius. We're here with A. J. Jacobs
Speaker 1: talking about his new book, Thanks a Thousand. I love
Speaker 1: seeing the list some of the funnier entries in there.
Speaker 1: I know it was a little surprised to see Joe's
Speaker 1: parents from Joe's Coffee thanked in here. And I'm curious, like,
Speaker 1: who were some of the funnier, maybe more surprising people
Speaker 1: that you didn't exactly expect to thank as you were
Speaker 1: on your way to a thousand thank yous. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some very you know, I used my credit
Speaker 1: card and I didn't know how much went into just
Speaker 1: making the credit card. The people who have to make
Speaker 1: the magnetic strip and the people who assigned the numbers
Speaker 1: to the credit cards. There's a there's a whole institute
Speaker 1: that assigns numbers two various credit cards. Um, and you
Speaker 1: know that they don't do it themselves. Uh. I will
Speaker 1: say this one was crazy. If you go on the
Speaker 1: Apple website, you can find a list of their suppliers,
Speaker 1: and it's I could have done the whole thing just
Speaker 1: that list that I restrained myself. But a lot of
Speaker 1: companies don't do that. They don't say where their stuff
Speaker 1: comes from. But but some do, and the Apple was
Speaker 1: one of them. M hm. Well, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: spoil it for people, but the way you end the
Speaker 1: book with the Italo Calvino quote and how the world
Speaker 1: could look if we were all a little bit more
Speaker 1: grateful made me just genuinely want a world where we
Speaker 1: could be more aware and more connected and not like
Speaker 1: social media, connected but actually grateful and connected. And I
Speaker 1: just wanted to thank you so much, truly for writing
Speaker 1: this book, and thank you of course in mangas as
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I you know I'm a huge listener, and
Speaker 1: I that a few episodes ago you told the story
Speaker 1: of how you were in Portland and everyone thanks and
Speaker 1: the bus driver and how touched you were, and I
Speaker 1: thought that it's lovely. If we can turn the world
Speaker 1: into one giant Portland bus, the world would be a
Speaker 1: better place. I agree. The book is thanks at thousand.
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