1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, good morning, good morning, Happy Thanksgiving, everybody, 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: hope your turkey, Dave's great, good weekend, family food, football, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: the greatest of the greats, goodwill. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: This is project in iol and Uh. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: He is Danny d Dad, Anthony the sports dad, one 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: of the fellas that's coming your way. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Uh in an hour. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Now we look at the lens of high school youth 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: and of course college sports and the nil prism. 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: This is a weekend of football, so a heavy football 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: theme for you. Is Sean Patten, who was the GM 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: at Nebraska. He's now a special assistant to the athletic director. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Will join us to talk about recruiting and all the 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: coaching moves. Good morning, Danny D. What's going on? Because 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: how are we doing over there? 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: Brother? Happy Thanksgiving? 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving? Brother. It was a good It was a 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: good one for me. How about you and the family? 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: Same here, buddy, same here. We have our own little 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: turkey day right in South Philly. We were all together. 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: We had about Uh. It's my friends and all the 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: kids and everybody. There's probably twenty something of us love it. Yeah, 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: and we all do a turkey ball. So a lot 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: of fun. Yeah, it was, it was. It was good times. 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: A lot of great football that was on, although not 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: the Eagles yesterday. 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: That's our yesterday. I was. I was loving the football, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: all the action all Thursday yesterday, and the Eagles just 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: ruined it for me. But we'll move on. 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was good, good stuff last night 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: in Texas and arch Arch right. I'm happy for man 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, look, where are that where that name on 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: your back? 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Is really hard? Right? 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: You know he got a huge nil, ye know. In fact, 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: you know I had read his nil total. The valuation 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: was six point eight million, and because he had struggled 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: early on, it dipped at three point six million. 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, and we touched on that a little 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: bit last week. But it's it's a wild world and 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: a lot of it is marketability, right, how how well 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: you can market yourself and your name right, which he 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: has that Manning name. But the other side of it 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: is you have to perform right, So to cut it 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: in half, it is difficult, especially for a kid that's 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: twenty years old, you know. But he's gonna be fine. 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: He's still gonna be I think he's gonna figure it out. 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan. I think you know, they're gonna 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna continue to get better, and if he sticks 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: around another year, I think it'll be great for him. 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: I love to see him again in college football and 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: hopefully he stays hot and they going a little run here. 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good for the game. 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: You know what's funny we were talking about last night 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: and there is a report that if he came out, 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: he would still be the number one pick, and you know, 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: you know he's not ready obviously, and you know, I 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: mean between his family that, I mean, they know it's 61 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: right for him. I would be shocked if he came out. 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: He needs another year at least in college football to 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: hone himself. 64 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: But it is great to see, you know, the progress. 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: And he saw it last night on a big stage 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: against a great defense and then you know, a stark 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: rivalry with Texas A and M and he had a 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: huge second half. He's down ten six and a half time, 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: the offense is languishing and he comes down and he 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: leads him too. 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Two touchdown drives. 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: Looks great early, right, and then it continues it and 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: it seals it with the big run. 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he could do it all hits his legs, 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: and I agree with you. I think he definitely stays 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: just for the fact that he was so patient. He 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: didn't run when ND start. These kids these days, they 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: need that instant gratification. He's sat for two years, you know, 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: he wasn't in a rush to play, So I think, 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: you know, if they have a lot of great people 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: around him, obviously in the family, and they understand the game, 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: so I think they'll really look at it. And I 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: think he probably comes back to play college football again, 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: probably at Texas, but who knows. And I'm sure there'll 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: be a bag of money for nil his way if 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: he decides to come back for another year. 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and why not get why not make a 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: great and great living and continue to hone your skills 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 2: at a great place like Texas? All right, So let's 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: just get dive in a little bit with Thanksgiving and 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: football and the professionalization of high school sports. We see 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: it really with high school football, basketball too, but especially football. 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: And because of that, the landscape's changing. Man, Like the 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Alba Mater on Thanksgiving Day doesn't exist in a lot 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: of pla places anymore. 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, the rivalry game is going away, and they touched 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: on this a little bit on NPR this week. I 98 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: was listening and it was it was really big and 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: close to us and in southeastern Pennsylvania, huge rivalry games 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: that go back one hundred and twenty years. And I 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: saw a stat in the paper that said in two 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: thousand and five there was thirty eight games locally to 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: us in southeastern Pennsylvania. It's down to ten. Wow, in 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: twenty years, from thirty eight to ten Thanksgiving Day football games. 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: I saw stats that said in the thirties there was 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: one hundreds of thousands of people went to it. There 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: was more people that went to you know, Thanksgivin Day 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: games and rivalry games and NFL games. Right now a 109 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: lot plays into that, right, TV, the accessibility to be 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: able to watch it, obviously that changed a lot, right, 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: the state playoff structure, right, high school football structure, that 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: changed a lot. 113 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: Right. 114 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: So there's there's money factors in it, but now even 115 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: more so with this new era of sports, it's continuing 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: to die. And it was a huge part of what 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: you know America early early on in the nineteen hundreds, 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: and you know, these rivalries are one hundred and twenty 119 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty years old. They're dying and it's uh, 120 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: you know, they're even the ones that are still alive, 121 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: they're getting you know, a couple hundred people that used 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: to have a minimum of ten thousand, right, So it's 123 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: a sad it's a sad day because you love that robbery. 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: You love to see those teams kind of meet and 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: those fan bases come together. But it's something that you know, 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 4: it's part of this new world and it's a dying 127 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: it's a dying thing, which is to me a little sad. 128 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: Well a lot said in that sense. 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if there's a way where, you know, 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: you could satisfy both the history and the new landscape. 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: It's just I guess it's just hard because of the 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: playoff and the calendar. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of these state playoffs have gone longer. 134 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: A lot of them used to end around Thanksgiving, so 135 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: they still had these games. 136 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: Now. 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: I can only talk to the state associations close to 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: us that I know a lot about. Even you know, 139 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: in California they had their state playoffs this weekend. They're 140 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: big games, you know, that's the big football state right now, 141 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: and there was a lot of games going on last night, 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: some going on today. So when the playoffs go past Thanksgiving, 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: it makes it difficult for these teams to commit, right. 144 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: So your dream is at the beginning of the season 145 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: is to play first a championship, right, So you're not 146 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: really thinking about this game if there's still games to 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: be played afterwards hypothetically, right. So it makes it a 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: little difficult to keep these games going with the length 149 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: of these state playoffs and how long these seasons are going. 150 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 3: So what can be done? I mean anything? Now, here's 151 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: the thing. 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: You're at a school, so you know this is obviously 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: project nil and you're a real ad. Dammy, the Bernard 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Demons is a real a d Was that Saint Joe's Prep? 155 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: You help build a national powerhouse of a football team. 156 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: You just left to go to Penn Charter, which is 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: one of the oldest high schools in the country. So 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: did that affect you, guys? So for Penn Charter, they 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: have a tradition. 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 4: It's the only oldest rivalry in the country, one hundred 161 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: and thirty nine years of a continuous game of football 162 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: games and other sports. So they're a part of it. 163 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: They just the way their season ends. They end two 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: weeks before Thanksgiving, so they still play this rivalry game 165 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: against Germantown Academy again one hundred and thirty nine years. 166 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: It's something so special today is awesome. It's filled with 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: so much tradition and thousands of people do come out. 168 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: So this was kind of their version of the Thanksgiving game. 169 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: They never played it on Thanksgiving, but there's they're not 170 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,359 Speaker 4: a part of a state association that has football available 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: to it, so the scheduling doesn't really put in a 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 4: factor to them and they're able to play this game still. 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 4: If you were a part when I was at Saint 174 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: Joe's Prep, if you're a part of PIBA, which is 175 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: the state in Pennsylvania, the state championship is the first 176 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: week in December, so every year, if you're hoping to 177 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 4: play in it, you can't be a part of these 178 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: rivalry games on Thanksgiving. So at the prep, they were 179 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: in the state playoffs for ten years straight, so they 180 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: used to be a part of a Thanksgiving Day game, 181 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: but that ended when they started to join the state 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: Association back in twenty eleven. 183 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: So I guess you know you're basically stuck right like 184 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you got to make a choice 185 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: as to where you want to be. And especially we 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: touched on the powerhouses, right, like these big national powerhouses. 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: You know, those rivalries are done. 188 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: It becomes almost the national you know, we've grown into 189 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: this big spotlight, right, like the league it's so big 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: and national and you know the NFL and big time 191 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: college and that big time high school where it's you're like, 192 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: you played the national schedule. 193 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're gonna find these games. You're still going 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: to have these rivalry games. You're just going to be 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: earlier in the season, right, You're not you're unable to 196 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: play them at the height of the season, which is 197 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: in late November, right, which everyone used to you know, 198 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: arn for and hope that they could come together and 199 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: play this big game at the end of the season. 200 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: So there is still these games, right, They still do exist. 201 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: There's still rivalry games. They just have to happen a 202 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: lot earlier in the season. And that's you know, how 203 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: the sports evolved, How these playoffs have you know, moved along, 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: and how people want to continue to play football late 205 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: in the December for a high school season, which is 206 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: wasn't the norm years ago, right, So that's something that's 207 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: changed and it's hurtin these rivalry games, which is a 208 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: little sad, But at the end of the day, you know, 209 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: you want these kids to to really strive for something great, 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: and inf state championship is something that you know is 211 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: part of that list. I want them to go get it. 212 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: So it's it's a little give and take on it. 213 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, now listen, it's the evolution of everything, right, so 214 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: you mentioned it. You know when you're talking about the 215 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds and the nineteen you know, thirties and forties, 216 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: you have these towns and there was no you know, 217 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: there was no NFL. That that was all the docket 218 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: from the day, right, Like everyone was did their thing 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: before they went home, they have their turkey, would go 220 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: out to their local high school, right, and they would 221 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: congregate and it would be kind of the center of 222 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: the town wherever you lift, and everybody would congregate to 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: watch the game, and you would you know, I can 224 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: imagine that the crowds would be huge. 225 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: They were saying it was bigger than any professional sporting event. 226 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: And up until like the sixties, where these thanks living, 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: they had games where people, you know, they just came out. 228 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: They had so much pride and where they went. You know, 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 4: there wasn't as many you know, private schools that had 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,359 Speaker 4: open enrollment, so it was like really a very community 231 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: based this is where I lived, where I go to school. 232 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: You know. 233 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: So as school's evolved as this high school landscape where 234 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: kids can travel to go to different schools and you know, 235 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 4: play go to a different state to go to school. Right, 236 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: these are all things that have happened as you know, 237 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: everything in sports has evolved. So it's a lot of 238 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: different factors that play into it. But at the end 239 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: of the day, it was something really cool and then 240 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: you know, we just want to put some light on 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: it that it was something that was huge in the 242 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: country and now it's something that's kind of dying out. 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wow. 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: But you know, I mean listen, if you woke up today, right, 245 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: if you got transported in time from back then to today, 246 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: college football was was huge back then, right like it was, 247 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: you know, college football was bigger than the NFL up 248 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, through the seventies. Really, I mean, you know, 249 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: the NFL didn't become king probably until the late eighties 250 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: early nineties where when it overtook baseball, but college football 251 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: was was huge, was it was a monster. And if 252 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: you told those people that, you know, you would get 253 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: these big contracts and kids would be moving from school 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: to school and coaches would be moving for you know packages, 255 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: you know, for a hundred million dollars, they would be aghast. 256 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: It's crazy and it's you know, I'm happy for the 257 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: coaches too. You know, a lot, there's a lot going 258 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: to come out today with Lane Kiffin, right, he said 259 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: this future will be announced today. There's a lot of 260 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: these reports and as the players contracts are going more. 261 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: I mean, Lane Kiffin's gonna get a hundred million dollars 262 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: to coach college football without a doubt wherever he shoes. 263 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: If he decides to stay at Old miss Oh yeah, 264 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: he has to go to LSU. 265 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: But I mean that was you want to back up 266 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: the truck. Florida is going to. 267 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: Back up the breaks trucks backing up brother, So yeah, 268 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: thanks for him. They're backing up on them. Yeah, it's 269 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: you know this nil error. It's it's vital for the coaches. 270 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: I think it's more vital than ever before with job security. 271 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: And you know, coaches might be out quicker than normal, 272 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: But on the flip side, they're gonna get a lot 273 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: of money when they do well, you know. And Lane 274 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: Kiffin has had a bit of a roller coaster career 275 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: in coaching, and he really turned old missing New a 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: perennial powerhouse. And now he has a lot of options, 277 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: and we'll see today where he ends up. I'm very 278 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: curious to see it. 279 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: It's wild. 280 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean, his his career path is wild from you know, 281 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: from the Raiders. They like think about that, like it 282 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: feels like in another lifetime that he was the coach 283 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: of the Raiders. 284 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean, why till he wasn't right then he wasn't 285 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: the guy. He had to start over, had to go 286 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: to Florida, Atlantic, had to kind of reset when he 287 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: was down. 288 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: Of course, they all go to they all want they 289 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: all went to Uncle Nick to themselves. 290 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: Had to get him right. So Uncle Nick down in 291 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: Alabama and then you know, went from there. But he 292 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: was the golden boy then he wasn't. Now he's back 293 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: and I'm happy to see him. He seems like a 294 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: great guy. Got to meet him once or twice through 295 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: his recruiting trips when he was in Philadelphia. So I'm 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: anxious to see where do you where do you think 297 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: he ends up. I'm sure curious to hear. Yeah, you 298 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: think it's it. 299 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I think I think he's bat Tom Rouge. I think 300 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: they back up the truck and let's go. Uh. 301 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: I think you tigers this, I do. I believe it's governor. 302 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: Uh again, these these state schools, the governors are hugely involved. 303 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: It's a political football to no end. In fact, you know, 304 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: because I've been, I've been filling you in. But I'm 305 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, writing a TV show about this whole world. 306 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: And in the world. It's a state school in the 307 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: Midwest and the Heartland, and there's a governor, and there's 308 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: a billionaire, and it's the football program. And this is 309 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: the intersection of modern day life. It's Bretton circuses. Uh 310 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: been up to talk about it. Assistant A D for 311 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Strategic Intelligence is his actual title, Sean Patten. 312 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: Wealth of Knowledge Sean, Yes, at all. 313 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: He was the he's the he was the AD at Nebraska. 314 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: Now he is that title. He was also the guy 315 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: who negotiated the Dylan Reyola contract, which was historic at 316 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: the time. 317 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: Very historic. Was early on to do multi year deals 318 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: before nil it was an evolving Hey it's still evolving today, 319 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: but early on to make that decision to be that 320 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: strategic with it. Was they were trendsetters, they were they 321 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: were ahead of it, and yeah, they're reaping the benefits. 322 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: Dylan's having a great career and he's still got another 323 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: year left before he can potentially go pro. So credit 324 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: to Sean to figure that out. 325 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Sean all about this landscape of 326 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: coaches and the recruits, right, because you know, you're seeing 327 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: the Virginia Tech with frand he's taken a lot of 328 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: a lot of recruits that were going to Penn State 329 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: are not going to Virginia Tech. 330 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Franklin at his core was is an 331 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: elite recruiter, right, so it kind of comes through, right. 332 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: It's always knock was, you know, making some adjustments and 333 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 4: big games, but recruiting was never an issue. So to 334 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: see kids follow him is not surprising at all. And 335 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: and you know, one of our good listeners just actually 336 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: reached out to me and said, part of the high 337 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: school problem is that the pride is because kids just 338 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: bounced around so much these days. Also, right, the no 339 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: one wants to wait, so kids are bouncing around. They're 340 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: going to multiple high schools. So the pride is you're 341 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: losing some of it in these driveway games, the ones 342 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 4: that are still on right. I didn't really think about 343 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: it in that light, but it just reached out to 344 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: me and told me that that's also an issue that 345 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 4: we didn't really touch on. 346 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, we got to do that. We got plenty to 347 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: talk to Sean about. So keep it right here. It's 348 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving weekend. This is Project and I Hell Daily DBAD. 349 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm your sports stat and as we hang out right here. 350 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: As always on Fox Sports Radio. 351 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 352 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: the nation. 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This isn't 357 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your. 358 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: Throat every day. 359 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest 360 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at 361 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: the sportsbook. 362 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: And all the best guests. 363 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 5: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 364 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 5: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 365 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: you get your podcasts. 366 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back project and I ll Danny d the a 367 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: d Danny de Bernardinas now Penn Charter in Philadelphia. I'm 368 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: Anthony gargantto our resident sports dad. I don't forget Fellas 369 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: coming up. Jeff Schwartz and I at the top of 370 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: the hour now joining us. He was the GM now 371 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: he's the assistant A D for Strategic Intelligence man. He 372 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: has been at bell Or, he has been at Temple, 373 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: he was with the Carolina Panthers, all with Matt Ruhle. 374 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: He is a guy that is integral in this whole world. 375 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: Sean Patton, my good friend, joins us. Happy Thanksgiving, Sean. 376 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 6: Happy Thanksgiving to the Anthony. Good to hear from you. 377 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: Always great to hear from you, buddy. Big weekend, How 378 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: how was it? I know it was a tough game 379 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: against the Ioway yesterday, but always uh, tough weekend. It's 380 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: a tough, you know, kind of season with Dylan going down, 381 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: but you know, still a winning record and you know 382 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of hope in that program. 383 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 6: Well, I think we're locking our wounds after this Iowa game. 384 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 6: It was certainly not the outcome that we were looking for. 385 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 6: It was certainly not the fight that we were looking to. 386 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 6: You know, we were looking to carry on a much 387 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 6: better fight than what we had there. But you know, 388 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 6: incremental games we are. You know, we have met some 389 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: of our goals. We didn't meet all of our goals, 390 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 6: but we are going bowling first time consecutive Bowl games 391 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 6: and I think it's twelve years and really proud of 392 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 6: the seniors, really proud of the guys that were here 393 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 6: before them to get us to a Bowl game last year, 394 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 6: and we're just we're just trying to keep making incremental games. 395 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, you know you're talking about a great 396 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: staff and a great coach and Matt, you guys will 397 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: definitely get there. I had no doubt about it. I 398 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: want to start this conversation off when you negotiated the 399 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: Dylan contract Dylan Ray at the point, which was the 400 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: largest contract in nil And of course now it's gotten 401 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: broken several times. But this you're a perfect guy to 402 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: talk to about this ever changing landscape and how it's 403 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: blown up. 404 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: I mean, have you got a handle on it yet. 405 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 6: Or what I think that I think the explosion has 406 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: already happened. I think that we're entering into a phase 407 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: of much more sensible, much more normal, just in terms 408 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 6: of getting to a normalized place with you know, sort 409 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 6: of set set dollars in place to a certain extent, 410 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: but for lack of a better word, most schools are 411 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 6: working off of a similar cap at least the ones 412 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 6: that want to participate as high as you can. And 413 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 6: that has been you know, it was crazy, especially when 414 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 6: they change the transfer rule right in the middle of it. 415 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: All. 416 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 6: That certainly made it made it crazy. I don't know 417 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 6: if Dylan's at the time was the highest or anything 418 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: like that. That's not something that he was ever necessarily 419 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 6: pushing for. But I think that we're at the point 420 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 6: now where everybody's sort of working off the same page 421 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 6: in terms of what's allowed and what's not allowed. And 422 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 6: you know, people are always going to be you know, 423 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 6: have unscrutable thoughts, but for the most part, I mean, 424 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 6: I think we're getting ourselves to a normal situation here 425 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 6: where everybody's sort of working off of the same uh, 426 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 6: you know, same number of dollars or close to it. 427 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 428 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: Sure, So when you guys got Tom Nebraska and you know, 429 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: trying to rebuild this program. Right, being being able to 430 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: go to two Bowl games in a row for the 431 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 4: first time in twelve years is awesome. I'm really interested in, 432 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, the architecture of how you how you got 433 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: here right? How did you guys build this up to 434 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: become more consistent power? Obviously they were trying for years 435 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: and they couldn't figure it out. So coming to a 436 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: program that was once historic and has kind of been mediocre, 437 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: how did you guys approach this? 438 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 6: I think that we approached the rebuilding process. I wouldn't 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 6: call it. I wouldn't necessarily call it a rebuilding process. 440 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: I think there was some there were good materials here, 441 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 6: there were good there was good leadership here. That's the 442 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 6: one thing that you would never never doubt at Nebraska. 443 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: I mean, these kids want to win, and they want 444 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 6: to give it they're all And I think that, you know, 445 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: our approach is always going to be upfront, just from 446 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 6: a just from a recruiting standpoint, you got to make 447 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 6: sure that you're taking care of you know, upfront, and 448 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 6: that's has been our approach and will be our approach. 449 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 6: And I think that as you as the landscape sort 450 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 6: of changes, I shouldn't say changed, but you sort of 451 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 6: take a look at a different model in terms of 452 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: free agency. I mean, free agency isn't quite the right work, 453 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 6: but if you're looking for something to model itself after. 454 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: And what we did was NFL front offices, So we 455 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: transitioned a lot of staff to be looking out into 456 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: the future in terms of kids that are playing college 457 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 6: football right now, because once the transfer rule changed, that 458 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 6: changed exponentially who was a potential player for your football team. 459 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: So you know, we have we have remote scouts right 460 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 6: now that have done over nine hundred reports on current 461 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 6: college football players because you have to change the structure 462 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 6: to make sure that you understand who all is out there. 463 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 6: And I would say that has been a big structural 464 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 6: change in that you just need to have knowledge of 465 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: so many more players because the potential of who could 466 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 6: be on your roster has grown exponentially with the transfer 467 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: rule being no longer enforced. 468 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's a free agent, man, Like you know, That's 469 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: that's what you're at is every year every player is 470 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: a free agent. 471 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 6: Well, the interesting thing though is that this year will 472 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: be different in that and that we enter into a 473 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: dead period on Monday, so it's really going to be 474 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: in January where student athletes will announce and I intend 475 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 6: to enter and all of that, but technically not be 476 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 6: in for till till later on. So it really gives 477 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: teams time to finish out their season. They put some 478 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 6: rules in there to help people with trying to retain 479 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 6: some of their players if they are a new coaching staff, 480 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: and allowing coaches and giving additional windows players to go 481 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 6: into the portal if they do have a coaching staff change, 482 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: because there's that could be dominants falling all over college football. 483 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 6: You just don't know. 484 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: And again I know that you know it's it's college 485 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: right and the kids got to be in for spring semester, 486 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: But doesn't the window need to be moved further? And 487 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: with this coaching carousel, I mean, the delay Kiffin thing 488 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: is wild in that you know they're a playoff team 489 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: and he's if he leaves, what happens. 490 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: It's just wild. The whole thing is crazy. 491 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 6: I don't know what's going to happen. I have no idea. 492 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 6: It's a it's a tough situation, but it happens all 493 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: the time. I mean, it's very direct in this circumstance 494 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 6: because people kind of know who's bowing out and who's 495 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: sticks around and and who's in it. So it's sort of, 496 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 6: you know, not as opaque as this thing normally is. 497 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 6: So it's weird. But you do have locker rooms facing 498 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 6: rumors all over the country right now too, So it's 499 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: going to be It's been a part. I mean when 500 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 6: we were at Temple, there are rumors that Matt was 501 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 6: going to Missouri the year before and he had to 502 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 6: address it. 503 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: Uh, and we were this year, you guys had to 504 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: address the the ped state rumors that hit you know, 505 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: hit Matt and hit uh Signetti and Indiana and hit 506 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: alcoh and A and m. 507 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, every everybody's you know, there's there's especially in this year. Uh, 508 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 6: there's probably there aren't too many programs that haven't felt 509 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 6: some sort of pressure to say, hey, I'm either getting 510 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: a new contract or I'm staying put or you know, 511 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: but it's it's I think that and I know to 512 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 6: answer your question, should it be longer, it's tough with 513 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 6: the semester, you know what I mean, It's tough. 514 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: You got I mean, you can figure it out. 515 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you can make an exception for the football player. 516 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, let's face it, let's be real here, 517 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: you know, let's wag the dog man. Well, let me 518 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: stop with this, with this, like this whole charade for 519 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: football players, they should be allowed late entry and figure 520 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: it out. 521 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you know. 522 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: You broke up, you broke up a man. 523 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 4: To that. To that, though, I do know some college 524 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: ads who have been involved in you know, this process 525 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: and trying to you know, put some guardrails on all this. 526 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: They did say in the future there could be a 527 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 4: number limited on transfers because of finishing your degree. So 528 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: if you transfer four times in four year years, you're 529 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: unable to with these credits moving around. And at the 530 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: end of the day, college is still about education, right, 531 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: So a way to put parameters on the amount of 532 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: transfers could be behind this. So they might say, hey, 533 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: you only can transfer two or three times, and that 534 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: could maybe hone in a little bit more of this 535 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: free agency and wild West in the portal. 536 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 6: There is a progress towards degree component to your eligibility. Now, 537 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything anything concrete with regard to that, 538 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: but I think that would be a mechanism that somebody 539 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: could say they could try to use to limit that, 540 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, to try to limit that, 541 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 6: But you don't limit a regular kids from going to 542 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 6: as many schools as he wants to. And that's ultimately 543 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 6: what the courts will end up coming back to. That's 544 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: just my opinion, but they're going to say it happens 545 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 6: for a regular kid, regular kick can go in many 546 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 6: schools as they want, why couldn't this kid? And that's 547 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 6: I think that's where the court's logic will probably go 548 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: to that regard. But shoot, everything on this thing could 549 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 6: end up being in a lawsuit or somewhere or another, 550 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. This whole thing is there 551 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 6: there are actors out there that will poke holes in 552 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: this entire agreement and will look to sue it at 553 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 6: any camp, in any pocket they can get to it. 554 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: So that's that's going to happen. It's just be ready 555 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: for the you know, the batty of lawsuits that will 556 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 6: come with the agreement itself and just. 557 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: For purposes right like there is no there is no cap, right, 558 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: there's no ni L cap like you know in truth 559 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: you know if you're you know name is school tax 560 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: attack anybody, right, like anybody with a big support. Any 561 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: player can get an ni L deal, a supplemental an L, 562 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: the NIL deal that goes beyond the salary cap. 563 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 6: The I mean to use the word cap. I mean 564 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 6: that's not exactly, but that's easy kind of just kind 565 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 6: of to kind of explain it to folks. But you 566 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 6: can get like, uh, kids on teams can get normal 567 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 6: NIL deals. It gets scrutinized. It has to go through 568 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 6: a clearing house in order to take a look at it. 569 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 6: And they're matching up. These are auditors on you know, 570 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 6: the Lloyd and I don't know who it is, but. 571 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, that that that are comparing it with other deals 572 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 7: and with the market itself, and they're coming back and 573 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 7: they're saying yeah or nay on particular deals, and so 574 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 7: you know they intend. 575 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean again, I mean, I don't know what's what's 576 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: been out there, but get shut down. 577 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, get shut down. 578 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 2: It's such a it's such a that's another one, another 579 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: gray area. Because if I'm this hot recruit and I 580 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: got you know, seven million follow on Instagram and Twitter 581 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: and TikTok, who's to say what that's worth? 582 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: Well, the what. 583 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 6: Says that's worth is what other people have been getting 584 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: paid for that exact work. And if you do have 585 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 6: a huge following, that goes into that, that goes into effect. 586 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: Like that's a that's a factor in it. It is 587 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 6: a factor. It has a huge following, then you know, 588 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 6: influencers get paid for the things that they do. 589 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sean could teams get creative and say, all right, 590 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: our guys who have a big following will push to 591 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: the collective for ni I deals, and the guys that 592 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: might not have a small, large following, we'll just pay 593 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: them through the school's allotment of that twenty one million 594 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: dollar number. 595 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 6: I think that there's I think that you don't necessarily 596 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 6: want to use that money to usurp the cat, but 597 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 6: I think that guys that are more marketable are going 598 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 6: to have more opportunities. More opportunities can mean more dollars. 599 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 600 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: Me and Anthony speak about that earlier a lot, and 601 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: we talked about kids and saying, hey, it's so important 602 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: the marketing piece of yourself, right. How social media is 603 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: a huge tool, but it can also hurt you rite recruitment, 604 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: but also if you're smart with it, it can also 605 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: really really help you. 606 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean these kids for me, you know, when 607 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 6: it comes to social media and the way they can 608 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: monetize that, that's like seeing like X ray vision. To me, 609 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 6: I'm fifty years old, I can't even But these kids 610 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 6: have had a sensibility towards their social media presence at 611 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 6: a very very early and so they get it. You know, 612 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 6: they get it. You know kids that come in that 613 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 6: weren't playing at all and they were like, look at 614 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 6: how many followers I got. I'm like, yes, I know 615 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 6: this isn't pay to play, but like you're not gonna 616 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 6: get on the field. That's not going to really help football. 617 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 6: Lot love the followers and keep up the good work 618 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 6: football first. 619 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: That's great. 620 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no, I'm just gonna say that 621 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: they have like very much early on, we had to 622 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 6: do a lot of social media training on guys and 623 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 6: everything like that. But a lot of times kids come 624 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 6: in and have that sensibility at this point right now, 625 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 6: and if they don't, there's probably other other problems they 626 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 6: got to get a handle on as well. So but 627 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 6: it's it's in the past. It was very much something 628 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 6: that we had to train guys on. Now now it's 629 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 6: you train guys that just just shut up and just 630 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: when when when people are trying to pick a fight 631 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 6: with you or or or or talk about their whatever, 632 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 6: uh fantasy pics or whatever the hell they might be 633 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 6: talking about. You know, just don't engage. That's the biggest 634 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 6: thing now. And it's not to engage because everybody's you know, 635 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: everybody can reach out to everybody. And so you know, 636 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 6: you drop that ball and all of a sudden you 637 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 6: got to hear from Joe the ragman, you know what 638 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 6: I mean? 639 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, without of that, hey, Uh, the last 640 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: thing is that we're up against it. And man, this 641 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: is so so interesting how we touched on free agency. 642 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: How does that affect recruits now in high school? 643 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: And you know, the. 644 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: Limiting number of the high school workers, like what are 645 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: you guys at Nebraska, what do you how many? How 646 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: has that affected how many kids are you recruiting as 647 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: compared to the portal? 648 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 6: Well, I think the rosters, the roster size, uh and 649 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: and and the limits that will be going into place 650 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 6: on roster size can also factor into you know, the 651 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: sheer numbers that are that are being brought in. I 652 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 6: think that I think you'll see lower high school numbers, uh, 653 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 6: probably on the whole simply because people will be you know, 654 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 6: utilizing kids that have kids that have played you know, 655 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 6: guys that have gotten snaps, guys that have played games. 656 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 6: You know, there's a all sorts of studies going on 657 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 6: as in terms of, you know, where your dollars can 658 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 6: be best spent, and that's an ongoing sort of study 659 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 6: in terms of where people are going so to turn 660 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 6: around and say, oh, we're going to do this and 661 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 6: we're not going to do that anymore. I don't think 662 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 6: we're at that point, but we've certainly put more resources 663 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 6: into understanding the guys that are out there that are 664 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 6: already playing college football. I think that you may see 665 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 6: a bit of a shift. It may be more of 666 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 6: more of like you know, you've got you know, eight 667 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 6: draft picks and then you've got your free agency, uh, 668 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 6: you know, in terms of how the NFL sort of 669 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 6: works it. But I think it's ongoing to sit there 670 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: and say this is how we're going to approach it, 671 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 6: or this is exactly how it's going to work moving forward. 672 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: It's just not that's not our approach. 673 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 3: So you real quickly, we got to go. 674 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: But you get a high school kid, the best advice 675 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: for high school parents is to what like, work your 676 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: way up the ladder of smaller schools. 677 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 6: You mean, do you mean coming out? I mean if 678 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 6: I'm oh first coming out, I mean go to where 679 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: you go to who loves you and who you who 680 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 6: loves you know, start first, you know what I mean. 681 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 6: Just just just go fromwhere where you're gonna feel comfortable 682 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 6: and you're gonna thrive. Uh and if that thriving so 683 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 6: happens to open up other opportunities down the road. And 684 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 6: it's been great, you know what I mean. The guy 685 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 6: at Scrint and wilf Fear is not like, oh shoot, 686 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 6: that guy's getting called up to. 687 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 4: Ape or. 688 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 6: You know, to the big well. Right, that's how it goes, 689 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, That's that's the You gotta 690 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 6: play where it lies right now. 691 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating stuff, showing great. 692 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we got to get you back in just 693 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: incredible insight into the world. We really appreciate it. Good 694 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: luck in the ball game. Uh and uh, you guys 695 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: will be back strong next year. 696 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: Thanks bill birds. 697 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need some pro we get some problems there. Uh, 698 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: this is Project then. I will be back in just 699 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 2: a second. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back, Project n I 700 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: l look Danny D d A D. 701 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: I'm an and uh he missed any of the show. 702 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: You'll want to check out the podcast Fox Sports Radio 703 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's 704 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: podcast will be posted. Be sure to follow the podcast 705 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: right at five Stars. You can even provide a review 706 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: to So Solid and again. Just search Fox Sports Radio 707 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, you'll find today's full show 708 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 2: posting right after we get off the air. All right, Dan, 709 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: interesting stuff from Sean Patten. Yeah, he's uh, he's really insightful. 710 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: You know, with all the coaching movement, you know, it's 711 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: it's an interesting world because I mean, to some extent, 712 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: you always had that when a when a coach would 713 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: get fired. Uh, you know, obviously the all the recruits 714 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: would be left in limbo, right, and then you know 715 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: what would happen to kids in high school? 716 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: Where would they go? And they committed to the school 717 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: and you de commit. 718 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 2: But now with money involved it again, money's up the water, 719 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: right because now all of a sudden, you know, you're 720 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: agreed to a deal and an il deal and you 721 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 2: know a lot of cases and now all of a sudden, 722 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: your coach, the guy that you believed in is not 723 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: there anymore. 724 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's difficult because some of these a lot 725 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 4: of the times, it's life changing money for some families, right. 726 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: And you know, and I've been close enough where I've 727 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: been involved with kids who were committed to big, major 728 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: programs and then that coach you know, is fired or 729 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 4: left and how they navigate that, right, So the school 730 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: basically tell you we don't know where it is. You know, 731 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: everything we agreed upon is up in the air, like 732 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: there's a really good chance it still happens. And it's 733 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: a it's an interesting dynamic because whoever's the intrum staff, 734 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 4: they're fighting to keep you right. They want you to 735 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: stay with your commitment because it helps the intrum staff 736 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: if it happens mid season. But on the other side, 737 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: they have to be honest with you and say it's 738 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 4: not guaranteed. So it's a very tight you know walk 739 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: you're doing our dance. You're doing to figure out what's next. 740 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 4: And should I stay committed to a program where there's 741 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 4: a chance that I might be left in a lerch 742 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: come January and I now I'm shuffling, or do I 743 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: be proactive and go get the guaranteed money now. 744 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's wild, and you know it's such a 745 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: difficult prospect, you know, especially I mean linke k Iff, 746 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 2: it's going to command a lot of money. 747 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 4: It's gonna the dominoes that are going to fall from 748 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: this today. I mean they're saying it's going to come 749 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: out today. I mean these are the reports. Yeah, but 750 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: the dominoes that are going to fall from this is 751 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: going to be very very interesting to watch and I'm 752 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 4: sure we'll dive into it next week. But uh, yeah, 753 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 4: it's going to be crazy, I know. 754 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: And you know it's wild because of the NFL when 755 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 2: their openings come around. It because college is so much 756 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: down like the NFL, and Saturdays and Sundays are blending. 757 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 2: You have a pool of coaches shrinks even more so. Uh, 758 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, guys are gonna get paid. The landscapes can 759 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: be wild. Hey, before we get out of here, I 760 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: know you have a great NIL story. 761 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Quincy Williams. I know we don't always get in 762 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 4: the track, but Quincy Williams, the number one track runner 763 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: in the country, ran in the Olympics a couple of 764 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: years ago, is committed to Maryland. He's staying home huge 765 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 4: NIO deal with new balance and uh just want to 766 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 4: give Miss Flowers. You know, we don't always get to 767 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 4: talk about track and field, but it's involved in this 768 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: process and you know, want to give Miss Flowers and 769 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: run Quincy. He runs the four by four is one 770 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 4: of his best races. He has the national record for that. 771 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Listen, do it for us. Everybody, have a 772 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 3: great day. Stay tuned for the Fellas.