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Hiring Indeed is 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: all you need. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: All right, guys, Welcome back eyl Nostalgia Audition Audition. 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: So if you were rocking with earning your lisia, you 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: know that if you're a Day one supporter, Day one listener, 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: you know that the first ten out of twelve episodes 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: that we did something lone Elf Lines didn't. We didn't 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: have any guests. We had a whole format of how 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: we how we created your legion. It wasn't built on guests. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: It was built on case studies and breaking down trending 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: topics like in like pop culture was related to business, 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: telling stories. It was a whole thing that we had 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: and it really became really popular. People liked it and 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: we kind of just fell into having guests. By default, 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: it was inevitable it was to have guests, so we 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: just had it. Then we just fell in love with 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: having guests and we just been doing that ever since, 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: for months and months and months. But everywhere we go 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: all of our Day one listeners and supporters have always 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: acts like, can we get at least one episode how 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: it used to be without any guests? 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: Man? Is it they originated? Yeah, back to where we started. 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: Next week will be back with our regularly scheduled guests. 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: We got a lot of dope interviews with different guests 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: in the Oven, but we wanted to bring it back 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: to where it originally started. We actually kind of missed 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: the format and it was actually really dope. 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: So it took me back to the times where it 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: was like, Yo, Tuesday, let's have a meeting, but we're 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: gonna talk about Thursday, let's finalize it and come up 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: with the ideas, and Saturday let's just shoot. It's like 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: that routine kind of changed now, but it's good to 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: come back to it, man, because we always we always 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 4: gonna have ourselves. 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like riding a bike, like we always have myself. 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: Now, this is something I'm excited about because we got 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about and we wanted to just 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: kind of just break it up a little bit and 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: just just just give you guys us. Yeah. 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: Man, So so that's who we're gonna do this episode. 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: But before we start, by the time you guys here, 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: this will be like a few days until our big 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: DC takeover, and that's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be crazy. 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna talk about it too much. 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: So much. 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: But there's a few tickets left for the workshop. VIP 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: is sold out by the time you hear this. We 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: might be able to get a couple more tickets. I 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: don't know, but workshop, we still have some tickets, a 65 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: couple of tickets available for that, and it's gonna be 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: a vibe man, we're looking forward to Wenna. 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: Put the list of people who's gonna. 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Be Yeah, everybody's gonna be there, Man Max Maxwell, ash Cash, 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: Wall Street Trapper, Rashana Scott, Mobile homes Elite, ut MG, 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the Mortgage Guy, Andy from Y two K Credit Solution, 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: Derek Falcon from Homemade Sabine, The Purpose Attorney, Miss Business. 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be crazy. 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: So that's like twelve episodes in the. 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, so, like I said, we we gotta plug it. 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully we see you there. If not, we catch you 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: in the next one. We're gonna release information on the 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: next one pretty soon. But all right, so we're gonna 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: jump right into this episode with a trending topic something 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: that actually we put it on Instagram like a month 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: and a half ago and we asked like should we 81 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: cover this, and overwhelming everybody wanted us to cover it, 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: but we just didn't have enough time because. 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: You call, I remember you put it up on like 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: a Thursday, and like Friday was like, yeah, we got 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: to cover this on Saturday, and I'm like, yo, we 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: got a few people lined up that we got an interview. 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if we can do it. We're like, yo, 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: let's do it on Instagram Live. I'm like, nah, this 89 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: needs more than Live, this needs this needs a segment. 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we didn't really have time, but we just 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: kept it in the back burner. So we're gonna cover that. 92 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: In the first segment. We're gonna cover that, and it's 93 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: in regards fashion, licensing, ownership, TRADEMARKT trademark and all that stuff. 94 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: And then in the second segment, we're gonna talk about 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: multiple streams of income important E y L is multiple 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: streams of income. So we're gonna give you the blueprint 97 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: and you know, full transparency is our whole theme. And 98 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: then the third segment, we're going to talk about some 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: different financial topics that people a lot of times aren't fully. 100 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: Aware of, and we're gonna test your expertise. Man, like 101 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: this questions I had. I'm like, we've never even had 102 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: these conversations. So it's gonna be dope. I get to 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: do some questions at you. 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna start this off with a 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: throwback from the past, everybody's favorite segment that. 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: It's the only right we do it forty episodes. 107 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: You gotta give him the intro, like you always do. 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls without further ado story time. 109 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: Here's a little story that must be to listen up, 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: gangsters and honeys with your head done. 111 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 4: Best storyteller stuff man Rader. 112 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: So first and foremost. You know Kanye West. That's uh 113 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: our brother. 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: We can't throw him away. 115 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: He Kanye West. You went to his concert? 116 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 4: I go to a lot of I've been to a 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: number of his concerts. I remember the first time I 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 4: saw him. He was opening up for Usher on a 119 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: Confessions tour. That's how far back. 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: But he went to his most recent concert. Yeah, I 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: was at the La Jesus Is King. 122 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 4: We told that story alive. Yeah, I went. I went 123 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: to Sunday Service. 124 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Man, he went to Sunday Services because we was at 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: Complex cam Me, Mike Jamore you. We was at Complex 126 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: con in l A and Long Beach and he had 127 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: his show and you bought tickets to the show. 128 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: All of us. 129 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And he was about to go is in 130 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Inglewood and you got in the uber and nobody else 131 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: got it. 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: Listen, let's paint this picture. It was like three o'clock. 133 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, the show starts at at four, Like 134 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 4: I'm calling this uber right now. Guys, it's a forty 135 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: five minute ride to Inglewood. Y'all coming with me, and 136 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: everybody's like. I was like, I'm calling the uber. We 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: all walked outside. I got into uber. I looked back. 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: I saw y'all standing on the curve. I said this, 139 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm closing this door. It's gonna be a one man journey. 140 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: And I looked and y'all took two steps backwards and 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: I closed the door and I said, I'm going. 142 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, was in fact shout out to ye no disrespect, 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: no disrespect. 144 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it left me. 145 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: Ya just wasn't in vis. You gotta be mentally prepared 146 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: for that. 147 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: And I'm not mad at it. I told you when 148 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 4: and I doubled back. I came back. I was like, 149 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: you know what, some things you need to experience by yourself. 150 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: I kind of I needed that, man. It was an 151 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: emotional moment. 152 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: Shout Sunday shot, Yeah, you went by yourself, but shout 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: out to complex content. 154 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: I was. 155 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: But I say that to say, we're gonna talk about 156 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: Virgil Ablow. Yeah, right, and Virgil if you don't if 157 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: you don't know, is he just recently took the. 158 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: Head job at the hell designer of Louis. 159 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Louis Vaitton, I think the men's Louis Vuitton, right, And yeah, 160 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: so he's he's big in fashion obviously, but before that, 161 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: he has a brand called off White. Off White, if 162 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: you're not familiar, is huge. Just it's it's one of 163 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: these things where all of the rappers, where all the 164 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: athletes wear it, and it costs a thousand dollars for 165 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: a T shirt. 166 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 167 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, off White, It's like a thing. 168 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: But so I mentioned Kanye West because Virgil comes from 169 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Kanye's tree. So when we talk about Kanye's tree, we 170 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: talk about his musical tree, right, people that have come 171 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: from him. So the big Seawans of the world, the 172 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: John Legends of the world, kid Cuddies of the world, 173 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: these are all people that come from Kanye's tree. No no, no, 174 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: we can't put drinking there. No no, no, we can't 175 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: play with Drake like that. But so so shout out 176 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: to the six Guard. So so that's so d so. 177 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: But but music is crazy, his his his his branches 178 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: is crazy in music. But even more impressive is his fashion. 179 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: So people, I would say more impressive. The people come 180 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: from under Kanye in fashion is Jerry Lorenzo Fair of God, 181 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Virgil Ablow who we just talked about don Ce who 182 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: worked the Jordan brand and what else did he do? 183 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: He still has it and he has the rs VP shop. Yeah, 184 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: he has a couple of deals he did. Uh, he 185 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: did a deal with the NBA where he likes in 186 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: some of this stuffy. 187 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: And Virgil and Kanye actually moved to the all of 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: them literally for like six months, and they interned Louis 189 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: So it's crazy. 190 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: So a right, Louis Vautan don Actually no, Louis Vuitton don. 191 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got his whole name from that whole vibe. 192 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: So what happens? Okay, So Virgil starts a company called 193 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: off White, and off White blows up. Off White becomes 194 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: a really big thing, and it's one of those things, 195 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: like I said, where everybody's just it's like you got 196 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: to get off White. 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: Sure it started before like he built the buzz because 198 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: he had that pirate there was like this pirate's vision 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: that fashion line that he had done, but it was 200 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: he was pointing it on other pieces of cold and 201 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: so you might see a Champion sweatshirt, but it had 202 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: like the Pirates stuff on it, so push your tea 203 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: obviously that makes sense, right, He's part of that that 204 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: crew that conglomerate at Kanye Conglomerate. So they was wearing 205 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: it and then that Pirates became a big thing, like Jay, 206 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: whar is it? That was big? And then somebody saw 207 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: the light in him. 208 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fact. 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: So Marcelo Brown, Berlin Burlin, Marcelo Marcello, Yeah, Marcelo Burlin 210 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: recruits him to come to Italy, right, and so Mark 211 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: he owns the New Guard group. Yeah, him, he has 212 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: two parts, which is a fashion conglomerate, right, So he 213 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: takes him to Italy and he shows him their manufacturing factories. 214 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, we started laughing because it's like when Kanye. 215 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: Remember when Kanye was on Sway and he was like 216 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: he was talking and nobody really understood what he was 217 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: talking about, and he was like, I can't produce this level. 218 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: I can't produce and they like why would you? Like 219 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And he's like, yo, got 220 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: dance to sweat. 221 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: They only gonna give us tea shirts a hat. 222 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: And so he's like and even Charlman was like what 223 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: do you Nobody really knew what he was talking about. 224 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: He didn't really do a good job of explaining what 225 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: he was talking about, but he was just saying like 226 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: he didn't have the factories to produce, and it just 227 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: didn't go over well. 228 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: Right. 229 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: But it's crazy because it's like when Virgil, they said, 230 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: when he when he went there and he saw the factories. 231 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what they with these factors like magical fits, 232 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: like Willie Walker in the Chalcoling factory. So he saw 233 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: these factories and he realized that he couldn't compete Get 234 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: down later type vibe. So he saws his company and 235 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: you know what's crazy is that shout out to Dapper Dam. 236 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: But when Dapper Dam was on the Breakfast Club when 237 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: that's what really started this whole vibe. Dapper Dam was 238 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club and Charlemagne kept pushing him like, yo, 239 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: why don't you just own your own joint? 240 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: Like why are you working for Gucci? You've done so 241 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: much for this company. You brought the street with and 242 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: Contour together, like create your. 243 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: Own, create your own things. 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: So then he kept pushing them on that, and then 245 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: that was like, well, who what black designer owns. 246 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: Their own outright? 247 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Like on a high level, on a very high level, 248 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: and he was like off white Virgil, and then he 249 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: was like does he does he? So then Charlamagne was like, well, 250 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: what does that mean? 251 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: What are you saying. 252 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not saying anything. He's like, through your research, 253 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: I promise you. Like as soon as I saw that, 254 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: and then one week later this whole story. I was like, yo, 255 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing the research and then we found this, I'm 256 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: like so surprised. It turns out that he doesn't own 257 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: off white. New Guard Group owned off white right majority state. 258 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: So what happens is that he sold it to the 259 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: New Guard Group. All right, it happens all the time 260 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: people sell that company. But what makes this interesting is 261 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: that he still has control over it in a certain 262 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: way because he kept the licensing right. So this is 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: very important. This, this is this is where the story 264 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: gets interesting. So he sold the company to the New 265 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Guard Group, but he kept licensing rights. So what happens 266 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: is that New Guard was in control of development, distribution, 267 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: and manufacturing, so they they wach everything everything right, but 268 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: but he was in control of licensing. So in order 269 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: for them, in order for them to put it in 270 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: any store, or to sell it. Effectively, they have to 271 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: rent the licensing rights from him and then they split. 272 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: They don't they didn't say what their agreement was as 273 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: far as the split, but they split. Let's just say 274 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: hypothetically the fifty to fifty split. And so he still 275 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: makes money, but he's not actually doing anything which actually 276 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: works out for him now just he could focus and 277 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: to see his energy on running Louis Vatan. 278 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the beautiful thing about licensing and trademarking 279 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: is that he can do it with this one and 280 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: right now, this group that this deal that he has 281 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: with New Guard and we'll talk about who they sold 282 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: it to, is that this one's exclusive. But the next time, 283 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: and like we said, we don't know the terms of 284 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: the money in the contract. We don't know the terms 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: of the years either. But as soon as this deal 286 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: is done, he can license to New Guard, he can 287 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: license to this person. He could I mean, he can 288 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: do it as many times or with whoever you want. 289 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: So the licensing thing is extremely It's an interesting conversation, 290 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to fashion, because people don't fully understand, like, 291 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: you know, who's huge in fashion, so Disney, You never 292 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: really think about it like this and shout out the 293 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Prince Darnell, another ey L alumni, he was. He was 294 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: in a store I think like a month ago. He 295 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: did a whole Instagram clip about this. But Disney licensed 296 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: their characters out all the time, all the time, especially fashion. 297 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: They're real big in fashion. So we talked about like 298 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: back in the day with Iceberg with Goofy, and Goofy 299 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: was on all the sweaters. They're not using Goofy just 300 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: saying I want to use Goofy. No, you can't do that. 301 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: It's a selling you got a license it. 302 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: So they did. They had Mickey too. I remember they 303 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: I remember the sweater. Vicky had the one. So they 304 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: had Mickey, they had Goofy, Peanuts. They also licensed that. 305 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: But it's like they have to pay to use those characters. 306 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 307 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is like, so when you go 308 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: in the mall, because you see especially now it's Holliday time, 309 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: you see a bunch of shirts with Snoopy, Mickey, especially 310 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse Mini Mouse. 311 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: They're huge. 312 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: You never really tried, you never really paid attention, right, 313 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: But if you go and you look at the tag, 314 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: they're not gonna say Disney right. 315 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 4: You could go in Old Navy right now and find 316 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: the Mickey Mouse t shirt or Urban Outfitters. 317 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: And all of these, all of these different companies that 318 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: put those characters on it, they have to pay Disney, right, 319 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: so they license their characters out on Fashion. They license 320 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: all this stuff out too. 321 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: Music. 322 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like the Netflix. Right before they started their 323 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: own streaming service, all of the Marble catalog was on Netflix, right. 324 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: Netflix is paying Disney big money, big money to use this. 325 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: It's the reason why now like with Disney Plus that 326 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: all like Black Panther's not on Disney Plus yet, or 327 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: like Star Wars, the New Hope is not on Disney 328 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: Plus yet because the licensing agreement hasn't run out. As 329 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: soon as it does, that'll be on Disney Plus. Netflix 330 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: will never see another Disney product. 331 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 332 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: So it's the same thing with fashion and some of 333 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: your top favorite designers they don't own right. You think 334 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: they do because it's the name, because it's the name, 335 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: But larger corporations like the New Guard Group, they own it, right. 336 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: So this happens all the time. Also, we talked about 337 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: as far as even in real estate. So Trump is 338 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: a guy, Yeah, Donald. 339 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: Trump in New York City. You know, like especially maybe 340 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: ten years prior to today, when you drove down the 341 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: West Side Hiway, it was nothing but buildings that said 342 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: Trunk Tower, Trump Tower, Trump Tower, Trump Tower. He doesn't 343 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: own the building, the land itself. He just licensed his 344 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: name to put it on the building, which in turn 345 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: people associate with the lifestyle. It's like, this is high luxury. 346 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm living in the Trump Tower. I have money, I 347 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: have high luxury. There's a certain lifestyle that comes with it. 348 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that probably the best, honestly, I mean, 349 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: hate it and love it. But you gotta always look 350 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: at a business case study, right, You got to take 351 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: emotions out when you're looking at business. So whether you know, 352 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: politics is very divisive. So whether you love them, whether 353 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: you hate them, whatever, you gotta look at the business 354 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: model behind it. Like all of this stuff from his ties, 355 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: a lot of his golf courses, all of those buildings, 356 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: those Trump Tower, very few of those. Does he actually 357 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: own the casino too. He licensed his name. People pay 358 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: him because he built the brand around Trump, the name Trump, 359 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: and now it's like, okay, just the name on itself, 360 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I can make money via value. So this is what 361 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: makes the Virgual deal interesting because it's like, okay, like 362 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: we said, people sell their companies all the time. We 363 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: talked about Kylie Jenner recently selling fifty percent of our company. 364 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: So he sold the company, but he also is making 365 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: money on the back end because he licensed. 366 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: It, right, And that's one of the things they said, 367 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: especially in fashion, if anyone's trying to start something, owning 368 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: the trademark is probably the most valuable thing you can 369 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: have in fashion because you that lives on forever. Like 370 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: this least agreement that you might have eventually they're renting, 371 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: but that lives on forever. As soon as that agreement 372 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: is done, you can find seven different partners to now 373 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: license with, and then that lives on in perpetuity. Like 374 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: keep that. He you know what he does. He owns 375 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: his masses. We always talk about music. Yeah, Virgil owns 376 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: his masses. 377 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: But so, but now what happens is that so New 378 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: Guard Group gets brought. So it happens, okay, So Virgil 379 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: has to deal with New Guard Group, right, and he 380 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: sells him a percentage of a large percentage of the company, 381 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: but he keeps the licensing agreement. 382 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: Right. 383 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: They do all of the work, they manufactured, they distributed, 384 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: they do everything, he gets paid and they have a 385 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: good relationship, I'm assuming, right, But now New Guard Group 386 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: gets brought by G three three, which is another fashion 387 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: conglomerate company. So now this way it becomes a little 388 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: complicated because it's like, Okay, it's like a record label. 389 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: We HAVET Mickey facts only saying he got dropped by 390 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: one record label or his record label got acquired by 391 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: another record label. Right, So it's like you might have 392 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: a good understanding with an executive at RCA, but now yeah, 393 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: so now it's a whole different, you know, relationship. So 394 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: it's the same thing with this, right, So it's like, Okay, 395 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: you might not be on the same page, right because 396 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: now you got the company that you sold, the two 397 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: guys acquired. Right, So I'm assuming that you know, obviously 398 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: Virgils seasoned, and I'm assuming he has a good counsel 399 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: and he's around good people that's given him good advice 400 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: and he's noledge with himself. So now what you do 401 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: is you put a termination. 402 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: Clauset, a termination provision really, so it's like what that 403 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: means is like if a brand, if the company decides 404 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: to put out stuff that does not represent the brand 405 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: any further. Then he has the right to say, you 406 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: know what, we don't want to do business anymore since 407 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: you've sold it the company and we lost our agreement. 408 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: If you can't match what we are expectations going forward, 409 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: if we're not a high luxury brand and going forward 410 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: we end up in like a TJ Max or something, 411 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: are deals terminated. 412 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very important. 413 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: So that's very important because you always gotta I always 414 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: give the analogy of like when you go to the movies, 415 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: like before a movie starts, they they always say, like, 416 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: disit an exit right when you get on a plant, 417 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: when you get on a plane, before the plane takes off, 418 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: they tell you where the exit rolls are, and they 419 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: tell you like the procedure like if if an emergency happens, right, 420 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: So if you really on point, before you go to 421 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: any building, you always got to recognize the exit before 422 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: you because it's like getting out is more important than 423 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: getting in. You have to you have to identify an 424 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: exit preferably before you even get in, right, because you 425 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: don't want to get somewhere and you don't know, then 426 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: you got to kind of like knock around and run 427 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: where's the exit. So, if you like presidents, right, they 428 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: already mapped out the exit strategy before they actually getting 429 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: out the secret services job. So in business is no different. 430 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Before you do a deal, you got to figure out 431 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: the exit strategy. Hopefully it doesn't go bad, but you 432 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: always got to think what if it does. Right, It's 433 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: like getting It's like in a prenumptial agreement when you 434 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: getting married. What's that Well, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully you never 435 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: have to use it, but just in case fifty percent 436 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: chance that it, you know, it doesn't work out, you know, 437 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: you got to your walking papers already established. So that's 438 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: extremely important for entrepreneurs. And this is a very high 439 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: level case, but any level of business ship partnership, whenever 440 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: you are doing business with somebody, you always got to 441 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: have a exit built in because if not, now you. 442 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: Get screwed, you get stuff or dropped. Yeah, n G. Three. 443 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: So they also own Donna Karen right, So that Donna 444 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Karen stories is interesting as well because. 445 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: It's like the flip side of the Virgil situation. 446 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Right, Right, she didn't she didn't license her. 447 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: Name, right, she didn't license her name and she got acquired. 448 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: She actually got acquired by lvm A. 449 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: Lvm A shot the Wall Street Trapper. We talked about 450 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: that in episode and they just did with Tiffany's. They 451 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: just bought Tiffany's for sixteen billion. 452 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 3: LVMH one of the largest companies in the world. 453 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: The largest high fashion. 454 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: One of the largest, well Apple is the largest, right 455 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: right right, my fashion fashion, Yeah sure, so LVMH, like 456 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: I said, we talked about that in episode forty four, 457 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: Wall Street Trapper. But they own Louis Vuitton, Hennessy, Moat, 458 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: a bunch of different stuff Tiffany's. Now they own a 459 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: long list of high fashion and just high lifestyle item. 460 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: So she sold, she sold her company to them in 461 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: two thousand, four hundred and fifty million. 462 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money. 463 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: But that took out the game, right, but they still 464 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: use her name. 465 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: She sold her brand and her entity, so Donna Carrott International, 466 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: which encompasses DKY and everything else that comes with Donna Karen. 467 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: But now so they sold did to G three another 468 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: G three acquire in twenty and fifteen for six hundred 469 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 2: and fifty millions. They made two hundred so they made 470 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: two hundred midle. 471 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: But during that like when they sell it, she steps down, right, 472 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: So she steps down from her position. I think when 473 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: she sold it to LVMA, she stayed on its head 474 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: designer twenty fifteen. She steps down. So now she has 475 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: nothing to do with the brand. 476 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: No, she's done, But the brand still makes money. 477 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 4: The brand is super profitable, like last year, I think 478 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: five hundred and seventy million in profit. She gets none 479 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: of it, and she has no say in a brand 480 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: that has her name, Like she could walk into any 481 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 4: store to say Donna Karen is like wait, they made that, 482 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: and she could do nothing. Even though it has her 483 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: name on it, she can't use it. 484 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's interesting because, like I said, a 485 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: lot of times people don't fully understand, like when they 486 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: just see headlines in the news. But these are things 487 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: that I think any entrepreneur can learn from because it's like, Okay, 488 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: he's so it's a very savvy move that he did 489 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: where he sold the company, but he kept the licensing 490 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: right right, So now he's still gonna make money in 491 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: perpetuity as long as he keeps that agreement. 492 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: The next deal is gonna be silly. 493 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 2: And yeah, as long as the company keeps growing, he 494 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: can renegotiate next time and even more. 495 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's the thing. It's like when you see 496 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: this is an exclusive deal, so like you'll see off 497 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: White like they just did the Ikea drop. Did you 498 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: see that they put the off White Ikea furniture? 499 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: Nah? 500 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: It was crazy. So like that sells out like that, 501 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: Like the branch just grows once this deal is over. 502 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: Whenever it is, like, can you imagine the lineup of 503 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: people who are coming to knock on that door to 504 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: use the license. It's gonna be ridiculous. He could do 505 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: it like right now. It's exclusive, so he can only 506 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: use through New Guard. But I can't imagine, like what's 507 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: gonna happen when he's a free agent and it's like, yo, 508 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: who wants to use the license? He's gonna be out 509 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 4: as world. 510 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: You know. 511 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes you get paid on front in the back end. 512 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And and the little Eton stuff is moving crazy. 513 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. So yeah, we 514 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: gotta get more on your leisure. 515 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: That's a fact. Make it happens, get on it. We 516 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: got to make that happen. 517 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: All right. So that's the case study breakdown on Virgil. 518 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: So the next second we're gonna talk about multiple streams 519 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: of income, how to how to get money from different avenues. 520 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: It's important, man, you can't you can't just have one 521 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: in this day and age. So we got one. You're done. 522 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: Let's do it all right. So now we're going to 523 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: talk about multiple streams of income. 524 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: That is I mean, I get that question. I'm sure 525 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: you get a bunch of I get that. Especially in 526 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 4: the education field. Teachers every day it's like, yo, I 527 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: need to make more money. How am I going to 528 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: do this? What do I do? How are you doing it? 529 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, we got something for you. 530 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: Real life got multiple streams of income. It's no longer option, 531 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: It's a. 532 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: Necessity in this world that we live in. So we're 533 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: going if you're a member of e y L University, 534 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: shout outs to all of our EYO earn out the 535 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: students that's enrolled. Ey L University is the dopest platform 536 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: right now online. It's crazy. We did a whole course. 537 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: We did an our course on multiple streams of income. 538 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: That's actually out right now. So we're going to do 539 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: is try to condense this like fifteen minutes, but if 540 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: you want the like full hour version, you can just 541 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: check out earn your leision dot com. We also have 542 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: a course on it about how to create a podcast. 543 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: With details, product placement, all that. 544 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: It's dope, it's dope, so yeah, we yeah, this would 545 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: be like the abbreviated version, and if you want the 546 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: full version, you can just check out Eyo University for sure. 547 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: But so, right, when it comes down to like having 548 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: multiple streams of income, right, I think it's important to 549 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 2: first understand and shout out to Derek Falcon another one 550 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: of our legendary episodes that you don't. A lot of 551 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: times people are under the misconception that you need like 552 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: five seven different things because they say the average millionaire 553 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 2: has anywhere between five to seven streams. So a lot 554 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: of times people look at that and it becomes like 555 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: overwhelming because it's like we're so try. The average person 556 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: is just trained to work a job to get money. 557 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: So now it's like, Okay, I gotta work seven jobs 558 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: or I gotta like create seven totally different businesses. So 559 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: I gotta do like construction, plumbing, real estate, I gotta 560 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: be a stock market invest I gotta do all these 561 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: different things. 562 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: And it's like who has enough time? 563 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Right, But one thing I really liked about with Derek 564 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Saitning and really resonated with us, is that you don't 565 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: need multiple avenues to create multiple streams of income. You 566 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: just need one lane that you do really well and 567 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: you can create multiple streams of income off of that 568 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: one lane. 569 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: It's like what we said, like we got to build 570 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 4: a foundation. If you think in the sense of a tree, 571 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: the tree is gonna be the foundation of what you're 572 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: gonna do, right, So like from that you're just gonna 573 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: start building branches from it. 574 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, So yeah, so we're not gonna 575 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: give you a case study or theory. We're gonna give 576 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: you the real deal. This is this is just all 577 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this is ours platform in blueprint. But I mean, 578 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: you know everybody's blueprint is gonna be different. But we 579 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: can just we could speak best about what we personally know. 580 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: Right, So, and they've been here to see it, so 581 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: like y'all been here watching it, y'all seen it from 582 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: January to now, We're just gonna give you really in detail, 583 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: like how this works. 584 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 585 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: So the thing with Earn your Lisia is that all right, 586 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: So Earn your Lisia started in January of twenty nineteen 587 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: and it was a podcast, right, and it was you know, 588 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: we started the Instagram page was the first thing we did. 589 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: And we launched Instagram and we turned into like a 590 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: daily discussion board pretty much of like different financial topics. 591 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: We post different things on Instagram and people give their 592 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: feedback on it and we do different write ups and 593 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: it's like a whole you know, financial board discussion on 594 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: different all different areas of finance. 595 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: Right. 596 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: So but that was all done in relationship to build 597 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: the podcast. Right, So we created a podcast, right, we 598 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: didn't know anything about That's the thing about this too, 599 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: is that we didn't know. 600 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: We're not even our year yet, Like we're we just. 601 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: Had a phone call and we're like we're learning still, Yeah, 602 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: eleven eleven months and we're still learning. So we think 603 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: where earner Leasia is that? Okay, So it started. It's 604 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: just a podcast and we had to figure out how 605 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: can you monetize a podcast because there's no blueprint on 606 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: how to do it. You just kind of figure out 607 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: how you go, right. So, but now we have a 608 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: few different streams from early lesion, Like I think we 609 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: gonn talk about like five six different streams that we 610 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: have from earn leisure income streams from early leasure right 611 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: now right, So all right, So as the podcast grew, 612 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: the first the first thing that we started to monetize 613 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: was audio. 614 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: Right. 615 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: So if you listen to this, you know that you 616 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: know we give Spotify, Anchor from time to time other brands. 617 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's part of the episode. Right, So those 618 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: are ads that we do and we're not doing it 619 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: for charity. Obviously, we get we get conversated for that, right. 620 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: So how you get compensated in the podcast world is 621 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: what's called CPM. 622 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: Right. 623 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: So CPM is like per thousand plays what you get. 624 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: So if you get standard, the good thing with post 625 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: is that it's usually like standard. It's like twenty five 626 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: dollars twenty on, like twenty to twenty five. It's like 627 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: usually standard, right, industry standard. 628 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: And when the platform we use was Anchor. Obviously if 629 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: you listen to this, we did it on Anchor and 630 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: we didn't have to go find them. They provided us 631 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 4: with the ads based on the audience listening. So they 632 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: saw that there was a thousand people listening to the first episodes, 633 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 4: they sent us one ad. They see this four thousand people. 634 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: Then they sent us two ads. So the more people 635 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: we had engaged in listening, the more ads they sent 636 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 4: to us. And you know it, so like you hear, 637 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: you got to go back and listen to the original ads. 638 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: So the original was a funny bit. 639 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: They're not a crazy thing is At first I didn't 640 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: even want to take the ad because I'm like, when 641 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: I saw it was twenty dollars CPM per. 642 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: Thousand thousand, that's how it works every thousand. 643 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: So when we first started, we was averaging like two 644 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: thousand a week or something like that, So I'm like, 645 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: why are we even doing this for forty dollars? And 646 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: then I read something like just do it because it 647 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: builds up over the cost of time perpetuity. Does I 648 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: can tell you it does. And the crazy thing about 649 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: it is that now with like anchor like it's the 650 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: dynamic ads, right, So what happens is that not every 651 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: time somebody listens to a podcast, we get paid. So 652 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to episode one and 653 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: as long as there's an AD and placed in it, 654 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna get paid for that. So that's pretty cool 655 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: because it's like, now as as our audience grows, right, 656 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: we are revenue grows as well, so we get paid. 657 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: So that's one way how we get paid, right, And 658 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: then so that was the first way how we started 659 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: to monetize the podcast. And then you know, from that, 660 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: we figured, okay, now we have an audience, but we 661 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 2: always love fashion and we always you know, it was like, okay, 662 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: what's the next thing that we should do and actually 663 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: to promote the podcast as well, and we came up 664 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: with a couple of different slogans with the slogan the 665 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: slogan that really stuck and became our signature with Assets 666 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: of Aliability. 667 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 4: Had I remember sitting down and we wrote down, like 668 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: you said, let's come up with ten, come up with ten, 669 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: and we put them out and it was like, all right, 670 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: well let's use these three. And we had three. So 671 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: if you had the day one people, you know, when 672 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: you went to the site, there was a bunch of 673 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: different shirts. And as we moved on and we realized 674 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: like that's not really gonna move, we stuck with three. 675 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the most popular, Access overliability. So and that just 676 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: became our trademark. We tried a couple different things, but 677 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: that became our trademark. And so the thing about merch. 678 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: Everybody sells merch. It's popular, it's like the first thing 679 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: you want to do, right, But merch can be a 680 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: kind of a tricky thing. So how we use What 681 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: we use is print Fall, right, So print Fall is 682 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: a company that allows you to not hold any inventory. 683 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 4: It's only demand. So like you order it, it's they 684 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: make it. Pretty much like what we said in the 685 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: last segment. They make it, they distribute it, and all 686 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: we do is create the file which is the assets 687 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: over alliabilities, which is ours. They printed up and they 688 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: send it out to you. 689 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's an interesting business model. It's pros and 690 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: cons with everything because they take a percentage of pretty 691 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: hefty percent. We're working on that so, I mean, we 692 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: probably could make a lot more money if we just 693 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: did it ourselves. But the thing about it is a 694 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: lot more work and it's a lot more capital. It 695 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: doesn't cost us anything. That's the good thing about print Falls. 696 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: That doesn't cost anything. 697 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: We don't have to buy sweatshirts, we don't have to 698 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: buy shirts. 699 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: One hundred dollars a month I think just to actually 700 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: run the site. But other than that, there's no there's 701 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: no money, there's no overhead so as somebody buys the shirt, 702 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: they print it, they ship it. 703 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: It's a whole. It's a whole. 704 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: Literally, Like we created our own store on Shopify. It 705 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: goes on print full and we put our designs up 706 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: there and people just when they order. I remember we 707 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 4: got our first order. I was like, oh wow, this 708 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: is great, and then ships you. We don't have to 709 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: store anything. 710 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: That's another thing to it. Especially when it comes to business. 711 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: A lot of times it's like and this is this 712 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: is this. There's no really no right or wrong answer 713 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: on this, but especially if you're doing a lot of 714 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: different things, sometimes it's better to take less money to 715 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: free your time up right, because it's like, like I said, 716 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: we could do it ourselves, but that's a lot more time, 717 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: Like we actually have to find somebody to actually make it. 718 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: For printing press, you have to hold a bundle of 719 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: different merch we have to ship it, we have to 720 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: track it, we have to you know, do all of 721 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: those things. It's not and especially as more people start 722 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: to order shirts, it becomes it's been too much. It's difficult. 723 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: So with print Fall they kind of do all of 724 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: that for us. Like I said, they take their percentage 725 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: for doing all of that stuff, but we're still get compensated. 726 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: So that was that was another revenue that was like 727 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: the second revenue stream that we did I didn't. 728 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 4: And then the next one was a proud of the 729 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: pay program And that was kind of just happened in 730 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: a comment. Somebody was like, hey, you guys on Patreon, 731 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: and at the time I remember I text you, I'm like, yo, 732 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: what is Patreon? And then we did the resource sholder. 733 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: It was like, oh, this could be a way that 734 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: we could give bonus content. We can put out a 735 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: different variety of things and features for our audience, and 736 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: so like that became another source of income. So we 737 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: created five different ta. 738 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Patreon, Patreon is a whole bob you actually you 739 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: talking about Patreon. I don't even know what patreon was. 740 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: Comed is likeyea, we should do a Patreon. Like what 741 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: is patreon? And Patreon is a is a is a 742 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: platform for creatives for people to support on a financial level. 743 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: And the cool thing with Patreon is that it's a 744 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: real community, where like Patreon, you get you can add 745 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: different tiers to it. So like we have different tiers 746 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: to our Patreon and like depending on what tear you're in, Like, 747 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: you get add free episodes, you get episodes before the 748 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: podcast drops. You get FaceTime conversations with us. Yeah, the 749 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: FaceTime conversations is lit. So get you get direct conversations 750 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: with us, you get you get discounts on the merch. 751 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: You get access to Eyo University. 752 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's new. So like that was one of the 753 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: things and we sent the message out. It was like, yo, 754 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: we got something to coming, we got something to coming, 755 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: and we were building it. So like now it's like 756 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: now they get to see what we have building. Everybody 757 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 4: that's in a Tier four or five, they get to 758 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: have access to Eyo University. 759 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: So that makes it even dope. Yeah, and this this, this, 760 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: this is the whole. 761 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: The whole thing with the Business show is that you 762 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: want to just create different ideas because you might not 763 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: be able to copy every single thing, but you want 764 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: to just spark your brain. So for me, I'm always 765 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: big on cross promoting, right, So I'm like, okay, look 766 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: if we got Patreon, right, and you also have to 767 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: add value like all these different report I want to 768 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: stress that too. Never do anything just to make money, right, 769 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: you gotta have like real value, like the merch is 770 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: something that we truly believe in, Like we really believe 771 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: in the merch and I think the reason why as 772 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: Overliabilities has taken off because it's a dope slogan and 773 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: it's really powerful and like three words, it really means 774 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: a lot, Like it's assets overliabilities, Like you know what 775 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like, if you're going to spend 776 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: money to wear a merch, like, you might as well 777 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: wear something that you like and it's stylished. 778 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: That's like it's dope. 779 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: Like that was our thing. It was like, Yo, if 780 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 4: we're going to create something that people are gonna wear, 781 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: it might have it should have a message on it, 782 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: and it should be a message that resonates with our 783 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: community and all communities. Really yeah, like that's what the 784 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 4: intent was when we did the Merchant and like let's 785 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 4: make money. We're not a clothing brand, but we want 786 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: to have a message every time we go outside we 787 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 4: know people are watching exactly. 788 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: And also with the Patreon too, it's like we don't 789 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to set up Patreon as a way for 790 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: people just to support the podcast. That's like charity and 791 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: event we want to actually give them value as well, right, 792 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: so that's why we had the phone conversations. That's why 793 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: we added free access to Eyo University. That's why we 794 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: actually discounts on the merch. But now with the Patreon, 795 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: you get discount on the merch, but it leads back 796 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: to the merch, right, which is like cross promoting right 797 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: exactly so, and everything always leads back to the podcast. 798 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank. 799 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 4: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 800 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 4: and sure, they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 801 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 4: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 802 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 4: day after day. 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Let's Square handle the back end so you 828 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: can keep pushing your vision forward. 829 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 6: Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for 830 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 6: the team today? 831 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 7: It was the new game day scratches from the California 832 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 7: Lottery players. Everything those games sent the team's energy through 833 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 7: the roof. 834 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 6: Are you saying it was the off field play that 835 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 6: made the difference on the field. 836 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 7: Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made 837 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 7: the game. That's all of now, Coach one more. 838 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 6: Question play than you. Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco forty 839 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 6: nine Ers and Los Angeles Rams Scratchers from the California Lottery. 840 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 6: A little play can make your day. Peace made Responsibility. 841 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 6: Must be eighteen years or older to purchase plate or claim. 842 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: Podcast is the mothership, which is free. But that's the 843 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 2: cool thing about it too. Where the podcast is free, 844 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: but from something that is free, we're able to create 845 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: multiple different income streams where we can actually profit. 846 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: So that's another thing. 847 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: To a lot of time people think like just because 848 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: you're not actually getting paid for something right away, or 849 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: something doesn't look like you can actually make money from it, 850 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: you gotta look deeper. It's not just like fact, you 851 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: gotta go ABC D E F like you know what 852 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: I mean, like to say, okay, the podcast, we could 853 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: The podcast is really just to get us out there. 854 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: As far as on our revenue, of course, the podcast 855 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: is to educate, that's most important. But as far as 856 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: our revenue, stream. Now we can monetize the podcast even 857 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: though people don't pay for the podcast because of ads. 858 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: But even if we had no ads at all, we 859 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: can still monetize off of the podcast. 860 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 3: Because of the visibility and allows us to do other things. 861 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 4: And it's not like we had to create seven different things. 862 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: We still have the mothership, the tree, which is the podcast, 863 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 4: and all these branches coming off of it. And that's 864 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 4: true what you said. We we didn't do it for money, right, 865 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: So like when we had Patreon, we had like two 866 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: members the first month, right next month we had seven. 867 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 4: Like we just kept grinding, like kept putting out the contact, 868 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: putting out value, making those phone calls. Now we're up 869 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: to like over one hundred and fifteen or something like that. 870 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: And it was like just being consistent and spreading the 871 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: word and given the value. Like I think that was massed, right. 872 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, just give it away. 873 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 2: Give it give it away, give it away, give it away. 874 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: And then people are, well, they want to pay for 875 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: they feel guilty not to. And that's why, like I said, 876 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: proud to pay with Nipsey when he had his one 877 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, it wasn't so much. It's just him selling 878 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 2: a mixtape one hundred dollars. That was a whole experience. 879 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: You got tickets to a concert, you got merch. It was. 880 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: It was bundled together and it was very well done 881 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: and people were proud to because people want to support, 882 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: but they just got to have something good that they 883 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: can support, Like nobody wants to support something that's just trash. 884 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: And then so so then the next revenue stream comes 885 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: via of YouTube. So YouTube is something that we're still 886 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: figuring it out. But I encourage any creative, any creative 887 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: of anybody that's thinking about starting anything, you got to 888 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: get on YouTube. People don't fully understand the power of YouTube. 889 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: Spoke. We spoke about this before. But that's the thing. 890 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 4: It would just be fully transparent. We didn't start on. 891 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: YouTube first, Like seven episodes wasn't wasn't on you. People 892 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: had to really convince us to get on YouTube. 893 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: Why you're not there? 894 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: The first seven episodes was just audio because it's like 895 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: it's a lot more work. You gotta film it, and 896 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: you gotta upload it, you gotta edit this. It's a 897 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: whole process. But YouTube, YouTube is interesting because it's like 898 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: YouTube also. All right, So the monetization for YouTube is 899 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: you have to have a thousand watch hours. 900 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so one thousand watch hours and four thousand. 901 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: Before you come out to so watch hours is like 902 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: how many how many hours somebody has watched your video? 903 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: So you need a thousand watch hours and you need 904 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: four thousand subscribers and then you can start to monetorze 905 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: through YouTube studio. And YouTube is another thing where it's like, 906 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 2: you know, the first YouTube check that you'll see is 907 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: like let's say, like for us, it's. 908 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 5: Like one hundred watch it. I mean we watched that 909 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 5: for like one hundred dollars. Yeah, and then it's like 910 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: six months later to like four thousand YouTube So god well, 911 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 5: and this time next year it will be four times that, 912 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But the good thing with 913 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 5: YouTube is like once again the audio. Once a video 914 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 5: is in YouTube, especially if it's like gets a lot 915 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 5: of traction, it's there forever. So I was just telling 916 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 5: like Alex goot Energy from Trucking episode thirty nine, I'm like, yo, 917 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 5: your video is gonna live forever because it has like 918 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 5: fifty nine thousand views right now or whatever. But a 919 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 5: year from now, somebody types in Trucking, they'll find that video, right, 920 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 5: and then they watch it and then we get paid. 921 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 5: And the cool thing, and this is I spoke about 922 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 5: this on a social media episode that we did, is 923 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 5: that a lot of times people with especially with like 924 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 5: YouTube and things of that nature, numbers are not the 925 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: most important thing. Numbers are not the most important thing. 926 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 5: What I mean by that is that, like our forty 927 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 5: thousand subscribers that we have right now is probably more 928 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 5: valuable than a lot of people that have a million 929 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 5: two million subscribers because our content we get paid at 930 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 5: a higher CPM. What that means is that, like our 931 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 5: content is clean, content is business. 932 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: That's important. 933 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: So companies they love that to advertise, right, It's like 934 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: the business is like the number one space advertisers. So 935 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: I was speaking to somebody who has a YouTube channel, 936 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: but it's a wrap show and they bring rappers on 937 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know. So he was telling me 938 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: his CPMs for his show is like three dollars, four dollars, 939 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: but he has like a million subscribers. His videos get 940 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: like two hundred thousand views, right, But he's not really 941 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: making money because it's like three dollars where we might 942 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: get ten thousand, twenty thousand views per episode. We have 943 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 2: forty thousand subscribers, which is way less than what he 944 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: has right, right, but we're making more money because our 945 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: CPMs could be thirty dollars twenty five dollars. 946 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 4: And that's another thing that's beautiful about YouTube is that 947 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 4: the CPM fluctuates, so like depending on the content, like 948 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 4: a video like mobile homes, you could get maybe forty 949 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 4: five dollars per CPM, which is per thousand, or like 950 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 4: Alex right, it could be forty seven dollars or as 951 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 4: in the audio space, it's just pretty stays the same 952 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 4: standard at twenty five dollars. So like, that's another beautiful 953 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: thing about YouTuber is it changes and depending on the content, 954 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: And that's that's key what you said too, is having 955 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 4: clean content, because if we had profanity laced conversations, right, 956 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 4: people wouldn't be putting money out to put on ads. 957 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 4: And I think we ran into that one time when 958 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 4: we had an episode with We're Talking about Marijuana, which 959 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 4: was a business podcast and it was a business lesson, 960 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 4: but just the fact that we had marijuana in our title, 961 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 4: it kind of changed. 962 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: We didn't get paid for that, but that's something too 963 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: for a lot of cret Like I said, all of 964 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 2: this stuff is just free information, free knowledge because these 965 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: are things that we learned. We literally learned all this 966 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: stuff on the fly. So you know, if you're starting 967 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: a YouTube channel, if you're thinking about monetizing online, the's 968 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: are good, good things to know. Because we didn't notice, 969 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 2: Like we didn't know that we put cannabis on marijuana 970 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: in the title. That's a red flag for YouTube. The 971 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: video went out, people saw it, but we didn't get. 972 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 3: Paid on it. 973 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 4: We got that little yellow sticker. 974 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: They're very big on that. They're very big on that industry. 975 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 2: They've shut down pages. They shut down some big cannabis pages. 976 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: We ran six hundred thousand subscribers, a million subscribers, they 977 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: shut their pages down. So it's just it's important to 978 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: understand what you're doing because like you could just be 979 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: doing something and I fully understand what you're doing, and 980 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: it's like you got you built up a million and 981 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: two million followers subscribers, but now it's hard for you 982 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: to monetize it. Where you see somebody with one hundred thousand, 983 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: I said, it's on social media. I know a girl 984 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: who had one hundred thousand, one hundred and fifty thousand 985 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: subscribers on Instagram that was getting paid fifteen thousand dollars 986 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: for an Instagram post. Where we know a lot of 987 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 2: Instagram models, bartenders that have millions of followers that can't 988 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: they can't figure out how to make money because the 989 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: only people that's going to advertise on their page is 990 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: lingerie and just promoting parties. They're limited, right, even like 991 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: a John Henry. John Henry doesn't have that many followers, 992 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: haves like one hundred and twenty thousand followers. Kill he's 993 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: making a killing killing. He's making a killing because it's clean. 994 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 2: He got a clean look. It's you know what I mean, 995 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: it's just the whole it's the whole package. He's very 996 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: he's very friendly to advertise it. So not to say 997 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: that you have to be that. I mean you could, 998 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: you could still make money, but not be but just 999 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 2: know that just just just be aware of it. Like 1000 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to change your your whole platform 1001 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: and to become something that you're not, but just be 1002 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: aware of it. 1003 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 4: You should be aware because that will be the reason 1004 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 4: why the monetization is a lot less. 1005 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So just know it's good to know that not 1006 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: the fact. So and then we also do live events. Now, 1007 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: the live events is another way how we're monetizing. But 1008 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: the thing, like I said, the thing about is that 1009 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 2: we're always adding value. Right, So this is a business podcast. 1010 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: We're never gonna apologize for making money. That's the whole point. 1011 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 2: Like we should never be ashamed to be entrepreneurs. But 1012 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: as long as you're as long as you're creating value, 1013 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. 1014 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: Right. 1015 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: So just from that, that's five different revenue streams that 1016 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: we named off of the podcast. Right, So now we 1017 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 2: don't have to we don't have to get five different jobs. 1018 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 2: We don't have to create five different businesses, even though 1019 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: they are kind of separate of each other, but they're 1020 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 2: all under the mothership of earn your leading, and they 1021 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: all hover under the podcast. The podcast is what leads everything, right, 1022 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: we know that, and that's important too. Never go away from. 1023 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 3: What feeds you. 1024 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: A lot of times people get successful and one thing 1025 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: and then they stop paying attention to that. Like, the 1026 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: podcast is always going to be high quality. We're always 1027 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 2: going to do our best with the podcast because we understand, 1028 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: like the podcast is what got us to this point. 1029 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: But we can't stay limited to the podcast. Like if 1030 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: we did that, we'd be doing ourselves and our supporters 1031 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: are disservice because that's not what we preach, Like we 1032 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: preach to have no limit to expand your horizons. So 1033 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: if we just stayed just doing a podcast, we wouldn't 1034 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 2: be a good example. Like what I'm saying, like we 1035 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: got to set an example. It's like it's more than 1036 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: just like we're just not getting up here just talking 1037 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 2: about it. We actually are implementing a real business. 1038 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we had a few more, Like we have 1039 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 4: a few more even even like in the summer when 1040 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 4: we do our summer programming. That's another stream of income 1041 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 4: for us. We have a couple of things that we're 1042 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 4: going announce to the top of twenty twenty that we 1043 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: we're just continuing to build off of the mothership all 1044 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 4: e your leisure, but all things that help people. So yeah, man, 1045 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 4: we gotta keep creating. And it don't be surprised if 1046 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,959 Speaker 4: you see like us doing trucking, Like we get a truck, 1047 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 4: we're gon we're getting all this information. So every time 1048 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 4: we hear something and we learn it's like yo, we 1049 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 4: should do No, it's a fact we even talking about 1050 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: our book. 1051 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: We gotta get we got we gotta get back to 1052 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 2: writing that book. But the book, that's another thing that 1053 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: we're like that we're looking to launch. And we got 1054 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: the blueprint of the book from Ash Cash episode episode 1055 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: twenty six. So it's like a lot of times, like 1056 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: when you listen to earn your leisure, don't just listen 1057 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 2: and just be entertained. Man, it's application. Like I said, 1058 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: like we're living proof, like we're we're literally applying things 1059 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: that we are learning. 1060 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 4: You know what the best part is, Like not once 1061 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 4: did you say like I'm a financial advisor too, Like 1062 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 4: people forget that part, Like yeah, so like yeah, that 1063 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 4: your financial advisor. I'm a teacher. But these things that 1064 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 4: we're doing, like outside of that, that's like non different streams. 1065 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 2: You need to have like ten ten different joints going 1066 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: because you never know, you never know when something can 1067 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: dry up. Like you know what I'm saying, You never 1068 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: know when something can dry up. So it's like I've 1069 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: seen it and I learned that early on just from 1070 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: watching people that I grew up with older people, And 1071 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 2: it's like you get laid off from your job and 1072 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: your screw you had a bad month from your job, 1073 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: and it's like you damn there on a homeless line, 1074 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. So now it's like 1075 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: we're having multiple streams. It gives you a cushion, it 1076 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: gives you a buffer, and it's like, all right. 1077 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 4: Well you can feel it. 1078 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: You can feel the freedom, you feel less pressure to you, you. 1079 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 4: Can feel the freedom of it. It's like, you know what, 1080 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 4: I'm not relying on anything. I have so many things 1081 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 4: that if this doesn't work, I got this. I got it. 1082 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 4: You can feel the freedom like I can feel it personally. 1083 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 4: It's like, Yo, this is crazy. This is different. Like 1084 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 4: this feels like twenty nineteen doesn't feel like twenty eighteen. 1085 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 4: It feels different. 1086 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 3: It does. 1087 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: And so yeah, so that's our but that's our journey. 1088 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 2: And not to say that you have to start a podcast, 1089 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: but it's like that's something that fit in what we 1090 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: were doing. So it's like what fits in what you're doing? 1091 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And on Early Legion University, I broke down how 1092 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 4: you can earn it in education because a lot of 1093 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 4: times I have conversations with people in my profession and 1094 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 4: they're like, Yo, how do you have time? How do 1095 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 4: you have time, and I went through like five or 1096 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 4: six different things streams of income just from being an educator. 1097 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: It is things that you probably are overthinking that you 1098 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 4: can do that don't require much time. 1099 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1100 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 2: So all right, so yeah, that was that, And like 1101 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: I said, that was kind of the abbreviated version. The 1102 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: full version is on Earn Your Legion University, where we 1103 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: kind of just dorove into a lot of different things. 1104 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to just let people know that 1105 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 2: it's always something more, no matter what you're doing, it's 1106 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 2: always something more. And when you're looking to start a business, 1107 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 2: see if that business is scalable, like the podcast is scalable, 1108 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 2: because we don't. It's very low inventory. That's another thing too, 1109 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: it's very low inventory. It can reach people from New 1110 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 2: York to Australia. We're not limited geographically, and it provides 1111 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: us opportunities to create multiple different launching paths. 1112 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 4: That was the first question Deryk fal Can ask me 1113 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 4: walk when we did his interview. The first thing. He 1114 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 4: sat down on my coudun and was like, yo, y'all 1115 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 4: gonna scale this first thing. He asked. I'm like, good question, 1116 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 4: and we went and we still. 1117 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: We come up with new ideas how we can scale. So, 1118 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 2: like I said, that's our blueprint, but what's your blueprint? Right, 1119 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 2: Like if you are restaurant owner, how do you scale that? 1120 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 2: How do you create multiple different streams? Derek gave the 1121 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 2: blueprint for that, but it's like if you if you 1122 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 2: have a gym, how do you create multiple different streams 1123 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 2: off that gym? Like even Alex right, he has a trucking, 1124 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: but he makes more money off of his portal and 1125 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: now he has merch So so yeah, so that's that's 1126 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 2: the rundown multiple streams of the income people. It's it's 1127 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: not something that is optional at this point in time, 1128 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: is mandatory and it's all about being creative and understanding 1129 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 2: how you can build different branches off of one tree. 1130 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: So we're gonna close it out with some education as 1131 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 2: far as investing in different things. 1132 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: All right, it's fun. 1133 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna it out. We're going to close 1134 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: it out with something that is easy for me. Like 1135 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 2: I said, a lot of times people don't fully understand, 1136 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: Like everybody thinks do the podcast full time, but I 1137 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 2: actually have a financial planning firm, independent firm. 1138 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 4: Who was your first client? 1139 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 3: You were? 1140 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 2: Thank you for sure, wealth wealth management firm. So that's 1141 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 2: what I do like outside of this So yeah, retirement planning, investing, 1142 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 2: things of that nature. So one thing that always gets 1143 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: people's attention when we talk about is the self directed IRA. 1144 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk about that because you know, 1145 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: we talk about real estate a lot on this show, 1146 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 2: and we bring on different real estate investors and things 1147 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: of that nature, and we always you know, have to 1148 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 2: give people different options. So funding, when it comes to funding, 1149 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: that stops a lot of people from investing in real estate. 1150 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 2: So we you know, talk about two or three K 1151 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: loans and hard money loans and conventional loans and things 1152 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: of that nature. But another way that people can can 1153 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 2: invest in real estate that not a lot of people 1154 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 2: are fully familiar with is via their retirement account. Because 1155 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: if you think about it, I've spoke about this before. 1156 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: Most for the average American middle class, American lower middle class, whatever, 1157 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 2: they don't have a tremendous amount of money saved in 1158 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 2: a savings account. They don't have money. They might probably 1159 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 2: have no investment outside of retirement like they don't have I. 1160 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 4: Mean, I know people straight up that don't know what 1161 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 4: an IRI is. 1162 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that but I'm just saying as far as 1163 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: the money that they have saved is in retirement. So 1164 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: it's not uncommon for a teacher to have half a 1165 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: million dollars in their pension plan or their four or 1166 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: three B plan by the time they retire, or it's 1167 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: not uncommon for somebody to work in corporate America for 1168 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 2: twenty years and to have four hundred thousand dollars or 1169 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 2: even like one hundred thousand in a couple of years, 1170 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: Like it adds up. The good thing with four in 1171 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: one case is that the money is taken right out 1172 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 2: of your paycheck, so it's easy. Everybody knows about it. 1173 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: Like when you sign up for a job, they do you, 1174 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 2: they sign you up for and then you've worked, like 1175 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: I said, a union job, you have a pension. People 1176 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 2: have money in retirement accounts. Long story short, Yeah, and 1177 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: that's the one place where a lot of people that's 1178 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: like their only source of like real save somebody. 1179 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 4: If they're saving, they're like, yeah, I have a four one. 1180 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1181 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: So what happens is that is that a lot of 1182 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: times what happens I see all the time is that 1183 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 2: people like they might leave their job or whatever they 1184 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 2: want to buy a home, and they have an old 1185 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 2: retirement account, like a old four one K, and what they 1186 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 2: do is that they cash it out because that's the 1187 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: only real money. They cash out their four one K 1188 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 2: and they use that for a down payment or they 1189 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: use that to buy a home. The problem with that 1190 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: is that now not only do you deplete your retirement account, 1191 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: but you get taxed crazy. Like if you take money 1192 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 2: out of a retirement account, but for fifty nine and 1193 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 2: a half from most retirement accounts, you pay a ten 1194 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: percent penalty, you pay state tax, and you pay federal tax. 1195 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 2: So you could be paying up to fifty to fifty 1196 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 2: five percent of the money in taxes. 1197 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 3: Right. So that's that's a lot of money. That's you're liable. 1198 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: We had a tax issue in this house, man. 1199 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so's it's important to understand that. 1200 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 2: So a lot of times people don't fully understand that 1201 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 2: you can actually use retirement money to actually purchase property. 1202 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 3: Right. So how you do that is via what's called 1203 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 3: a self directed eye. 1204 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 4: So before we go there, right, because this is important, 1205 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 4: what's the difference between an IRA and a self directed IRA? 1206 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 2: So all right, an IRA is what it stands for 1207 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 2: is the individual retirement account. 1208 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 4: Right. 1209 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 2: I think we spoke about this in another episode one time. 1210 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 2: But so IRA can be set up two different ways. 1211 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: You can set an IRA up just with money out 1212 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: of your pocket, and like you can fund it every year, 1213 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 2: like if you are self employed, or if your job 1214 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: doesn't have a four one K, or if you make 1215 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 2: under a certain amount of money, you can just put 1216 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 2: money to an IRA every year. Right now, you put 1217 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: like six thousand dollars on IRA. 1218 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 4: There's a max on it. 1219 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the year. Okay, but now what's very populus. 1220 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 2: What's called the IRA rollover. So when you what happens 1221 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: is that now you leave your job, right and now 1222 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,479 Speaker 2: you have an old four one K and old pinch plan, 1223 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 2: an old four three B whatever, TDA whatever, and you 1224 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 2: can roll that into an IRA. 1225 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 3: Right. 1226 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: So the reason why it's called the rollover is that 1227 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 2: it's going from one what's called tax qualified vehicle to 1228 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 2: another tax qualified vehicle. You're not paying taxes on it 1229 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 2: for your retirement. The only difference is that the four 1230 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 2: one K is set. 1231 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 3: Up by your job. The IRA is set up individually. 1232 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 2: You can set up you know with a bank or 1233 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 2: through a financial advisor or you know online there's different 1234 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 2: ways to set it up. 1235 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 3: Right. 1236 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 2: So most of the time when I when people do 1237 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: IRA rollovers, they're rolling into what's called the traditional IRA. 1238 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 2: Traditional IRA is investing in more traditional investments stocks, stocks, 1239 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 2: mutual funds, things of that nature. Right, So it's invested 1240 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 2: in the stock market, in bonds, things of that nature, 1241 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 2: and it grows over the cost of time. So let's 1242 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 2: say you had a job you work at and T 1243 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 2: for fifteen years. You have one hundred thousand dollars in 1244 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 2: a four month kN you left. You left, So now 1245 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: when you leave your job, the four one k is 1246 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 2: pretty much frozen in the sense not the way. It's 1247 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 2: not growing. It's still growing relative to how any investments do. 1248 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: But you can't borrow from it, right, you can't add 1249 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: money to it, you don't have any advice on it. 1250 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 2: You're not you're not working there anymore. And a lot 1251 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 2: of times people move and they don't update the address, 1252 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 2: so it becomes difficult to manage if you're not working 1253 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 2: there anymore. So this is why the rollover is so 1254 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: appealing because now you get to pick and choose your investments. 1255 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 2: You can add money to the IRA if you want, 1256 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: you can work with somebody that can help you out, 1257 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: like in advisor things of that nature. So that's that's 1258 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: what that's what the IRA is, just taking control over 1259 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 2: the money. So now you have that, you have it 1260 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 2: in the i RA, right. So now as it's in 1261 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 2: the i RA, it can be invested in like let's 1262 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 2: say it's invested in mutual funds, right or an. 1263 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: Annuity or whatever. 1264 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: It was just the regular IR traditional So the money's invested, 1265 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 2: you're not paying any taxes on it as long as 1266 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 2: it stays in and it's just like how it would 1267 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: be with your four to one K, except you're kind 1268 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 2: of picking and choosing investments for yourself. 1269 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So it's that's. 1270 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 4: The easy So if I'm not picking it, then it 1271 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 4: would be a financial advisor or like I saw, like 1272 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 4: a custodian. 1273 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: Most of the time, it's a through like somebody will 1274 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: help you out with it. So whether that be a 1275 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 2: financial advisor, whether that be somebody at a bank, credit union, 1276 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 2: or you know. Usually you can do it yourself too 1277 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 2: if you go online like you can Fidelity, but a 1278 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: lot of times people just don't feel comfortable doing things themselves. 1279 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: They might want help, so somebody will help you out 1280 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 2: with it that they, you know, kind of guide you 1281 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 2: on like what makes sense, This is a good investment 1282 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: and this is the reason why things of that nature. 1283 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: So that's what most people do, Like probably like ninety 1284 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 2: five percent of people, they'll roll in money into a 1285 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 2: traditional IRA. But another option that you have is that 1286 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 2: you can roll into what's called the self directed IRA. So, 1287 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 2: so traditional IRIS allows you to invest in traditional investments. 1288 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 2: Like like I just said, the self directed IRA allows 1289 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 2: you to invest in a broad range of different things. 1290 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: Everything from bitcoin to commodities. 1291 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 3: Is a bunch of possibilities, all kinds of different stuff. 1292 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 4: And one of the things, so somebody said, like you 1293 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 4: can invest in a horse holding firm. 1294 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can invest in all kind of different things. 1295 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: But it self directed IRA. And one of one of 1296 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 2: the most popular things that people use self directed IRA is. 1297 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 3: For is real estate. 1298 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: So a self directed IRA allows you to invest money 1299 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 2: in real estate. Right, So what happens is that you 1300 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 2: have one hundred thousand dollars and instead of like if 1301 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 2: you don't roll into a traditional IRA, you can roll 1302 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 2: it into a self directed IRA. Now that's self directed IRA. 1303 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: You can buy a home, or you can buy an 1304 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 2: apartment or whatever, or use that money to you know, 1305 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 2: buy different forms of real estate, and the money's not 1306 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 2: tax because the whole point of keeping it within the 1307 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: IRA is that you avoid you're avoiding paying. 1308 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 3: Tax tax when you take it out, or tax. 1309 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: When you take it out when you when you take 1310 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 2: receipt of it, we call taking receipt of the money, right, 1311 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 2: so like when you take receipt of it, that's when 1312 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 2: the money goes to a bank account, like when you 1313 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: physically receive it. As long as it's under the umbrella 1314 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: of the IRA, you never actually have you don't have 1315 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: receipt of it, so you're not you're not paying any 1316 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 2: taxes on it. That's the benefit of rolling a fall 1317 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 2: one came to an IRA and keeping it in the IRA. Right, 1318 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: you're not paying any taxes. Whenever you take money out, 1319 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 2: you're going to get taxed. If you take it out prematurely, 1320 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: you get a ten percent penalty tax. But at any 1321 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: point in time you take money out of an IRA 1322 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 2: or four one care, you pay a state and federal tax, 1323 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 2: the federal taxes with federal tax bracket you're in at 1324 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: that time, and the state tax depending on what state 1325 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: tax with state you're in and it's treated like ordinary income, 1326 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: and you can borrow. 1327 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 4: That at any time, but just know that there's gonna 1328 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 4: be a penalty borrow what you can borrow money from 1329 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 4: the IRA. 1330 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: You can't borrow money from the IRA. You can take 1331 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: money once a year from the IRA, but it's a 1332 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: sixty day rule where you got to put the money 1333 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 2: back in. 1334 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 4: Okay, good enough. 1335 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 2: So what happens is that with the self directed IRA, 1336 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 2: right now, you can use that money stays in the IRA, 1337 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: but you can buy a real estate. So like let's 1338 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: say you used one hundred thousand and you bought a home, 1339 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 2: used all of it to buy a home for one 1340 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: hundred thousand in cash. Right, So now that one hundred 1341 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 2: thousand is pretty much like your retirement. So the one 1342 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 2: hundred thousand rolls to two hundred thousand over the course 1343 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 2: of time. You're not paying any taxes as it's growing. Right, 1344 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: So you sell that home. Now you made a hundred 1345 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 2: thousand dollar profit. Right now, you put that back into 1346 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 2: the self directed IRA. Now it's not tax Now you 1347 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: have two hundred thousand dollars. Now you can buy more 1348 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: real estate or you can invest something else. Right, So 1349 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 2: it's another way to invest in real estate with your 1350 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: retirement account as opposed to investing with like a lot 1351 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 2: of times people think that they have to cash out 1352 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 2: their retirement to invest in real estate because most iras 1353 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: will not allow you to invest in real estate. 1354 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 4: It's self directed IRA, all right, So what's the process 1355 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 4: of setting up an IRA, because it's you're doing it yourself. 1356 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 4: I'm assuming right, self directed. 1357 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Self directed IRA. Yeah, so the process is set up, 1358 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 2: all right, The process is set up a IRA. 1359 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Period. This is the process is set up an IRA. 1360 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 2: You do an application for the IRA company, right, So, 1361 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: now that that sets up your IRA account. Like let's 1362 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: say you set up an IRA with Franklin Simpleton. Right, 1363 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 2: you're doing an application with Franklin Templeton and you're setting 1364 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 2: up an IRA. Right now, you have an IRA number, 1365 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: let's say it's one three, five seven zero. That's your 1366 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 2: IRA number. You have an account. All of that stuff 1367 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 2: is set up, but it's not funded yet. So what 1368 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 2: happens is that now you have to do a conference 1369 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 2: call with the fall one K company that shures you 1370 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the easiest way you do a conference call, and usually 1371 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: like you do with your advisor, if you're working with 1372 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 2: an advisor and like most companies nowadays, like it's fidelity, 1373 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 2: they'll do it over the phone where they can initiate 1374 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 2: the transfer over the phone. So you say, okay, I 1375 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 2: have an IRA. I want to roll my old four 1376 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: one K into an IRA. And they ask you, like, 1377 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 2: who's the check made out to. You'll say like Franklin 1378 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 2: for John Doe, Franklin Templeton for a benefit of John Doe, right, 1379 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 2: and they say like what's the address. Most a lot 1380 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: of times they'll send it directly to your house, or 1381 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 2: sometimes they'll turn it to the company, but they'll cut 1382 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: the check. They'll do it over the phone. They'll cut 1383 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: the check and then you deposit that until your IRA account. 1384 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Now your IRA is funded. 1385 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 3: Right. 1386 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes some companies have paperwork where they have like their 1387 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 2: own paperwork and you fill out the paperwork, you send 1388 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 2: it back to the company and then they send the check. 1389 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 2: So it depends either they do it with the phone 1390 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: or the paperwork. But that's how you set the IRA up. 1391 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 2: It's very simple. It's at the IRA up. It's it's 1392 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 2: two part process. You have an application and then you 1393 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 2: contact the company and you tell a company where they's 1394 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 2: send the money to pretty much. That's how you set 1395 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 2: the IRA up. So when it's self directed IRA, it's 1396 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: the same process. It's just that there's less companies. There's 1397 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: like mostly trust companies that do this. So like with IRA, 1398 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of hundreds, probably a thousand companies that 1399 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 2: you can do IRA where it's very very common traditional IRA. 1400 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 2: Everything from insurance companies to investment companies to banks, credit unions. 1401 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 2: You can set up IRA up with pretty much any 1402 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 2: financial institution. You can set up a traditional IRA up right, 1403 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: But there's a limited amount of companies that do self 1404 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 2: directed iras. 1405 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Right. 1406 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's just less, you know, I guess 1407 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: it's just it's it might be I'm not really sure, 1408 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 2: but probably I'm sure is more involved. 1409 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 4: I Mean, when I'm listening to it, it sounds like this 1410 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 4: is like one of them things like this is strictly 1411 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 4: for love, man, Like this is not something that the 1412 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 4: average person. 1413 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, well we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get 1414 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 2: to that the pros and cons, because there's constant, like 1415 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 2: everything in life. Well, like just a few companies that 1416 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm not endorsing any companies because I don't work with 1417 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 2: I don't set up self directed iras for people, but 1418 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: just to kind of give you Like if you google 1419 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: cel directed iras, there's a lot of companies that will 1420 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 2: come up, so like Equity Trust, Goal Star Trust, and 1421 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Trust Group. Those are different companies. But like I said, 1422 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 2: you could just google and do your own research, not 1423 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: to give those companies like any endorsement, but that's just 1424 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 2: that's just yeah, that's just that's just a couple of 1425 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 2: companies name. 1426 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 4: But when would be a good time to consider doing 1427 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 4: the self director. 1428 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 2: So before we even get to that, So how you 1429 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: set up the self directed IRA is that you you 1430 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 2: go online, you contact them, and you set it up 1431 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: with them, and they'll walk you through the process of 1432 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 2: like who the chech needs to be made out to you, 1433 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 2: an account number and all of that. So it's the 1434 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: same thing I just explained, but you have to do 1435 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 2: it this to yourself as opposed to like a lot 1436 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 2: of times with the i RA you have help because 1437 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 2: it a avisor that will help you out with you 1438 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 2: yeah most of the time. But in this process you're 1439 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to like kind of navigate this yourself. So 1440 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: of course you want to be properly educated, you want 1441 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,439 Speaker 2: to do your research. But the thing with the show 1442 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,080 Speaker 2: is just to provide information. It's not to say to 1443 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: do one thing or another, but it's just to provide information. 1444 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 2: So there's some drawbacks with the with self thrected IRA 1445 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 2: because the thing with the self directing IR like, if 1446 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 2: you have a regular IRA right now, the money is 1447 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: invested in the stock market, you don't really have to 1448 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 2: do anything like I mean, you can just monitor it 1449 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 2: and make sure you're in a good fund or a 1450 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: good investment, but it's not gonna cost you like money, 1451 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: right Like if you buy a real estate property, if 1452 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 2: you buy a home right now, you buy that home 1453 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 2: for one hundred thousand dollars, but you just it's not 1454 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 2: a huge Just let that go. Because now the boiler 1455 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 2: might break, right so now you gotta pay money to 1456 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 2: fix the boiler. Or the house might need to be painted. 1457 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Now you gotta pay money to fix this upkeeping the house. 1458 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 2: No matter what, there's still upkeep, you gotta cut the grass. 1459 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: There's always gonna be something. So it's gonna cost you money, exactly. 1460 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 2: It's important for people to understand that it's buying a 1461 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 2: house is gonna cost you money without like there's no 1462 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 2: way around it. So when you have your retirement account 1463 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 2: tied into that, A lot of times people you know, 1464 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,959 Speaker 2: you're not investing your four one K into an IRA, 1465 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 2: a regular IRA with the expectation that you're gonna have 1466 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 2: to pay five thousand dollars a year just to keep 1467 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 2: up that IRA. There's fees involved with an IRA, but 1468 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 2: that's taken out of the amount. It's not like you're 1469 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 2: coming out of your pocket with a house is different, right. Also, 1470 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 2: a lot of times people buy homes and the especially 1471 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: with investment properties, they're doing that to actually have income. 1472 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 2: So they buy a home and they want to have 1473 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 2: income come from that right to like support their lifestyle. 1474 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 2: But any money that you generate from the self directed 1475 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 2: IRA property has to go back into the self directed IRA. 1476 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 2: If it doesn't, then you get taxed on it. So 1477 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 2: that's also important for people to understand. It's more of 1478 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 2: a long term play. So, like I said, so. 1479 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 4: That's not like obviously your primary residents, I'm assuming primary residence. 1480 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 4: What when you're investing in the real estate or could 1481 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 4: it be no. 1482 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 2: It could be anything. It doesn't have to be a 1483 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 2: primary residence. It could be a rental, it could be 1484 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 2: a primary it could be a different different things, but 1485 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 2: it's just like all things in life. You want to 1486 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 2: put together game plan, you want to put together game plan, 1487 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 2: you want to be fully knowledgeable. But like I said, 1488 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 2: at the whole point of the podcast is just to 1489 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 2: give information and then from the information that you can 1490 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 2: decipher and say, okay, this makes sense. But a lot 1491 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 2: of times we're forcing too doing things because we just 1492 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 2: we don't know. So for most people, the self directed 1493 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 2: IRA probably wouldn't be the best fit because it's more 1494 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 2: work involved everything that I just named, But in some 1495 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 2: cases it could potentially make sense. So just wanted to 1496 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 2: let people. I spoke about that in a few different 1497 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: settings like live settings, and it's always it always gets 1498 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 2: a good reaction. So I wanted to cover that in 1499 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 2: a podcast, and I knew that you know today obviously 1500 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: that we didn't have a guest, I thought it would 1501 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: be a good a good time to actually cover that topic. 1502 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 3: You talk about real estate so much shout out. 1503 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 4: I want to thank you for coming man, this is 1504 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 4: this is This has been a learning experience. Like just 1505 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 4: when you think you know somebody fact follow me on 1506 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 4: the ground, but can you give everybody if not? That 1507 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 4: was great man. And like I said, obviously we talk 1508 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 4: every day, but we don't have in depth conversations like this, 1509 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 4: so like when we even have to. When I was 1510 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 4: preparing for this, I'm like, I have questions because it's 1511 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 4: like I don't know these things, Like this is your expertise, 1512 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 4: so this is dope that we have to do this 1513 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 4: like that, there's about ten questions segment. 1514 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 3: That we Like I said, it's just a little little tippets. 1515 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 2: I think that's something that we want to try to 1516 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 2: just throw a little gyms in there on the podcast 1517 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 2: every once in a while, like from your area of expertise, 1518 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 2: from my area of expertise, Like we can do like 1519 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 2: one per episode, like you know, once a month something 1520 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: like that, where you can just kind of like little tippets, 1521 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 2: little financial tippits to kind of help people out in 1522 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 2: the day to day life. And I think that that's 1523 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 2: something that could be beneficial. 1524 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm sure that people are going to take 1525 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 4: a lot from. 1526 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 3: This, hopefully hopefully hopefully for sure. 1527 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,439 Speaker 2: So so yeah, I mean I think that that's that's 1528 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 2: that's that's a good nostalgia, a trip down memory. 1529 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 4: If you're like, can y'all bring it and what happened 1530 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 4: to the NASA intro. Listen if you all listening to 1531 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 4: us right now, we've covered like trademarket so that that 1532 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 4: you can be between the lines. We love NOAs shot 1533 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 4: the basketball. That is who I wanted to be when 1534 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 4: I was eleven years old. So we love nos. We 1535 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 4: just gotta we couldn't figure out how to get the music. 1536 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 2: You gotta get Knaves on the podcast is doing all 1537 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 2: kinds of different things in the venture capital space right now. 1538 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: I get him on the podcast. 1539 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 2: But before we go once again once again, but mind 1540 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 2: the d C hop out on us. 1541 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 3: Man. 1542 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 2: We got crazy Saturday is gonna be Rashaanna Scott, Mobile 1543 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Home Investors and Wall Street Trapper. Sunday our very first 1544 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 2: live podcast, the Capital one Arena with Max Maxwell, Ash Cash, 1545 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,679 Speaker 2: Derrek Falcon from Homemade. Then we got a networking event 1546 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 2: after that. Then we got the game, the Wizards Clippers game. 1547 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Everybody that comes to the podcast has tickets to the game. 1548 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 4: Sunday night, d C. It's on, y'all, y'all, gott tell 1549 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 4: us what to go. 1550 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 3: Park. I think Park is, That's what I think Park, 1551 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 3: So d C. 1552 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait to touch the town man, 1553 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come a little early. Actually, run run around, yeah, 1554 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 2: runing around the d m V for a little bit. 1555 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 2: And eyl University yet the university. Shout to everybody on 1556 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 2: eyl University. Everybody's tuning in of our guest webinar hosts. 1557 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 4: We got the credit due. We had Sabine, obviously we 1558 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 4: have Matt. They're doing a tremendous job. We actually did 1559 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 4: to webinars ourselves. Andre Hatchett, shout out to him, he 1560 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 4: did the mobile notary. It's amazing, man. Like every week 1561 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 4: we learned so much more. So, shout out to everybody 1562 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 4: that is a member of e y L you and 1563 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 4: shout out to everybody that's on Patreon. As we mentioned earlier, 1564 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 4: that's our proud to pay program. And I just want 1565 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 4: to give a quick shout out to some of our 1566 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 4: new members. Kay Dean, who's a Tier four member, so 1567 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 4: you're going to have access to e y L University. 1568 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 4: Dawayne who's a new member, a Tier four guy, so 1569 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 4: he'll he'll be getting ey L University. And Sama. We 1570 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,719 Speaker 4: spoke to her. Remember a few months back, we supposed 1571 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 4: to Samiya. She actually upgraded her tears so she went 1572 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 4: from a one test nationally that tier four now so 1573 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 4: she's gonna have access to e y L University. And 1574 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 4: John he's a new member. He actually just joined as 1575 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 4: we came on to do this episode. So shout out 1576 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 4: to everybody on Patreon dot com. That's how probably pay program. 1577 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 4: We already explain how it works, five different tiers. Each 1578 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 4: tier has a different thing, and now four and five 1579 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 4: you have access to e y L University, So take 1580 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 4: advantage of that. And like we said, most importantly, man, 1581 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 4: you're gonna get the information, but the application is definitely 1582 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,640 Speaker 4: up to you, so make sure you take advantage of that. 1583 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 4: And our merch man shout out to everybody that's. 1584 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Supporting to merge the merch hoodies. 1585 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 2: We both got the hoodies out right now and we're 1586 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,600 Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna be dropping some some new merchant y 1587 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 2: lu whole new collection. Yo University is something that we're 1588 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 2: really excited about because it's online learning platform. But it's 1589 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 2: different because it's not just like courses. It's it's zoom classes. 1590 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 2: So these are like real like you can we have 1591 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 2: a different speakers from everything from two or three like 1592 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 2: the same podcast people that we have like they're like give. 1593 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 3: And even more. Yeah, they do classes for it because 1594 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 3: we do a class. 1595 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 4: Also, when you watch the podcast, it's not live, right, 1596 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 4: so it's tough to if when you have a question. 1597 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people pause the video or 1598 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 4: pause the audio and like write down like they had 1599 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 4: a question like uyol University. You could just literally raise 1600 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 4: your hand and have that question answered. So it's interactive. 1601 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 4: So make sure that if you're on e y l 1602 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 4: u dot com, go to e y l University and 1603 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 4: see what it's all about. 1604 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 3: No, it's a vibe. 1605 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 2: It's a whole viby University is a new wave, the 1606 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 2: coolest way to learn on the internet right now. 1607 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 3: It's dope. 1608 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 2: It's just dope all the way around. So I'm really 1609 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 2: excited about that. And that's what we're pushing right now. 1610 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: And also jay Z that's our guy. 1611 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 4: You know that. Yeah, since we've been doing this, y'all 1612 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 4: know that. 1613 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 2: And so the book tip of this week is jay 1614 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 2: Z Made in America by Michael Eric Dyson. 1615 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 3: He does Mikero. Eric Dyson's interesting he does. He did 1616 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 3: his book on nas. 1617 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 2: He like breaks down like these lyrics and it's like, yeah, 1618 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 2: he's kind of like what we do we need to 1619 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 2: get him on the podcast. 1620 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 4: He's in DC too. 1621 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he breaks down like hip hop and then like 1622 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 2: pop culture. It's like a whole vibe that he does. 1623 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 2: So he just did the jay Z book that's his latest. 1624 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 4: It was dope because Jay actually allowed him to use 1625 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 4: some of the lyrics in the book. So it's dope 1626 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 4: that he used them and did a whole bunch of 1627 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 4: chapters on him. So check that out for sure. 1628 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he Oh, here you have it man, another one 1629 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 2: in the books. Ernest, we love you, five of them, 1630 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 2: mant thank you for rocking with us. We'll see you 1631 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 2: next week. Peace please. 1632 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. 1633 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,879 Speaker 1: How can you find amazing candidates fast? Easy? Just use Indeed. 1634 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Stop struggling to get your job post seen on other 1635 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: job sites. 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