1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and it is a Friday. The 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Steelers don't play this weekend, but we kicked off Week 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: nine of the NFL season last night with the Jets 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: on Halloween knocking off the Houston Texans, and Matt just 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: takes us into a more nuanced conversation. Okay, the Houston 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Texans are not good. 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: They got problems, they really do. They need this extra 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: time off in a bad way. I mean because especially 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: after watching Stroud get beat up and he's kind of 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: stumbling around, and will Anderson gets hurt in this game 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: and protection was a big problem. Their own lines in 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: a problem all year. Tunsel's playing hurt. The left guard 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: is Kendrick green Enough said, you know at the moment 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 3: the other guys have been yeah, And then watching that game, 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: I get the Jets some credit some of their stars 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: when they needed most. Wilson, Adams, the two edge guys, 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: Reddick and McDonald, Quinn Williams all came to play when 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: they needed it. 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: It was an ugly game. Over was all awful game. 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: It was an awful game, it really was. First half 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: was a true first. I mean it's thirty two yards 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: passing Rogers. Yeah, they go on to win and quarterly 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: can't even carry the ball into over the over the 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: end zone. I mean, Thursday Night's not a great product. 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: But where I's going with this is I felt like, 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: and I didn't watch the All twenty two and they 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: didn't talk about this much, but I thought some of 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: their problems where no one's getting open. Yeah, I mean, 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: it just felt like Stroud's in the pocket doing his thing, 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: making people miss looking looking to his left, looking. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: At his right. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Not only do you know, like no one's getting open, 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: and even a lot of the throws he attempted were 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: not to open receivers. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: They weren't accurate either. No, he didn't play great. E 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: didn't played great. So here's so they've beaten the Colts twice. 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Good for them, that's huge for their division, right right, 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: But the two games were by five combined points, so 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: it's not like they blew the Colts out beat the Bears. 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: They got smoked by the Vikings thirty four to session. 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: Rush just destroyed. Beat the Jaguars, beat the Bills. Okay, 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: do you win your division games? Bad division? They'll probably 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: win division. Still smoke. The Patriots lost to the Packers 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: and now lost to the Jets. I don't know if 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: they're any good at all. 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: I think they're went over the Bills. Looks good, but 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: that's the only win that stands out. Yeah, beating the 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Colts is really important, but it's not They're going to 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: win their division. 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: I agree, but I don't know that they're a good 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: I would not fear if I'm the five seed in 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: the AFC and they end up as the four, I 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't fear going to Houston to play them. 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: I would probably pick the Ravens or Steelers in that game. Yeah, 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: as a road team, I mean almost certainly. 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: I feel like they're the perfect example of the PLEXI 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: last principle. You know that this is a bad football 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: team for years and years and years, and then oh 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: you draft Stroud and will Anderson and yeah, yeah, and 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: you know they moved up to It's good for them, 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: and you made a great, great stride. Now it's time 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: to take a step backwards, you know, you bounce off 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: the plexiglass and happens all the time in this game. 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: They could be good, but they're in a much better spot. 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: Now obviously, like they have a foundation. There's expectations. There's 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: a lot more night games. As we talk about a lot. 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: You play a first place schedule, you know, like it's 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 3: harder to maintain it year two. But I think they're 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: here to stay for the next couple of years, you know. 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: And I think they're a good team. They're the team to. 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: Invest in, I guess in the South for the next 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: hand full of years. 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: But I don't think this is their year. So they're 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: now six and three, Yeah right, okay, uh, here's what 79 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: they have upcoming the Lions. They're dogging that game. It's 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: at home, but they're gonna be They're gonna lose that 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: football game, I would think, so then they're at Dallas. 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: By then, Micah Parsons should be back. I wonder if 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Nico is, though, I think he's sort of on the horizon. 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 2: If that's all they got, that's I mean. Mixing looks 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: good right now. 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: Mixing looks really good. I was just dead wrong on him. 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: I thought he looked bad in Bengal uniform last year. 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: I think he's they can't run the ball unless they 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: hand to him. Yeah, and he's doing a lot on 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: his own. Nico would sure help. I think this long 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: time off would sure help. But I don't think they're 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: a contender. 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: Contender, Yeah, Well, then they get the Titans and Jaguars, 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: the Dolphins at home, which should be interesting. There won't 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: be a weather game. No, it's not a weather game 96 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: for Miami at the Chiefs, Ravens at home at the Titans. 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: There's four more losses there probably, Yeah. I mean I 98 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: don't think they beat the Lions or Chiefs. So I 99 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: think you're looking at them winning the They're gonna win 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: the AFC side believe that too. But it's going to 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: be a ten or eleven win team. But they're at 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: nine now. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I think they get 103 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: to ten. Okay, Yeah, that's the three seedons four seed, right, 104 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: that's probably what if you lose to Well, you got 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: to win over Buffalo, which helps. But is Buffalo only 106 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: gonna win ten games? I don't think so. I think 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: Buffalo will be ahead of them. I think Buffalo finishes 108 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: ahead of them. Yeah, Kansas City is going to finish 109 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: ahead of them. They play each other, they play each 110 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: other head to head. 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: They still Baltimore head to head. Maybe that's a tiebreaker 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: after the Ravens. 113 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: Actually yeah, right, And Steeler fans may want the Ravens 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: to lose that game, for sure, I would think, so, yeah, 115 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: you don't want to do you want the Ravens win? 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? I think you root against the Ravens 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: no matter what all the time. But I wouldn't. I 118 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't fear going to Houston at all. 119 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: No, or if you both win a playoff game and 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: you get him in round two or whatever, right, Yeah, No, 121 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't think they're a serious contender, subject to change. 122 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Tunsul could look a lot better. He's off, 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: he's been really bad. He leads the league in penalties. 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: It's like by a far margin too, Like he's got 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: like fifteen penalties like to a game. 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time, and he's playing hurt and maybe 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: he's shot. I don't know, but he doesn't look like 128 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: close to the same player we've seen for the last 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: five years. 130 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: By the way. That's some of the sauce Gardeners stuff too. 131 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Like you see the numbers sauce. Gardener's only giving up 132 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: seven catches this year, but he had like three. Yeah, 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: real gray, Yeah yeah, but they don't show up. 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: That's just like the receivers like pickings as money as 135 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: he draws doesn't show up. You know, where are you 136 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: at on the Jets. I think they're still alive. 137 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: They're still there. They the Jets are a dangerous team. Yeah, 138 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: but I don't think the Jets are. And here's what. 139 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: They're three and six. 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: Now, Okay, Like I would be selling pieces if they 141 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: were lost last night. 142 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: They are at the Cardinals. They favor in that game. 143 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Probably depends on what Arizona does this weekend. Yeah, let's 144 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: say's probably. Well, they were favoring the game last night. 145 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: They're favored against the Steelers, and I thought that was 146 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: way out of whack. 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought last thing was out of whack and 148 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: I fell into it. But I did hit the under. 149 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. So they play at Arizona, then they get the 150 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: Colts at home. That could be a huge game. Yeah, 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: that's important. Then they get the Seahawks at home, at 152 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, at the Jaguars, Rams at home at the Bills, 153 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: and then the Dolphins again. It's not terrible, but I 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: don't see them. There's at least two losses there and 155 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: you've already got six, So probably the best you're gonna 156 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: get to is nine and eight. I think that's fair, 157 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: and then they probably lose some tie breakers within the 158 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't think they can catch Buffalo, No they Buffalo. 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: Buffalo may clinch. I saw something the other Buffalo make 160 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: clinch by the end of this month. 161 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: Beating Miami this week would pretty much and then all 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you got one team to compete with 163 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: in your division. 164 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: Wow, I guess that is possible. I do think the 166 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: Jets can compete for a seven one of the seven 167 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: playoffs spots. 168 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: They have to get really hot. They have to get 169 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: really hot, though, because I just don't think there's people 170 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: ahead them. 171 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: Are that great, that's the thing. Yeah, and for charge, 172 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: they can compete with those teams. 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't fear what I saw from the Jets 174 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 2: last night though, either. No, No, I don't. 175 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he gets the ball out in two point 176 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: two seconds. That was the next gen stuff on him. Yeah, 177 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: which good for him, you know, I mean, but he's 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: he's not as accurate as he's not as accurate as 179 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: he used to be, and Corley was so terrible about 180 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they could have got that. That should be 181 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: a touchdown ninety nine percent of the time, of course. 182 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: But I don't think Rogers is a takeover games type 183 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: of quarterback. He's not that guy any He's a facilitator, 184 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: get it out. He's got two really good weapons, and 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: they want those two in haul to touch the ball 186 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: all the time. 187 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: I think that's good. Going back to the drawing board, move. 188 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: Defensive front was good, but the defense is a slight 189 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: step back for sure than it was last year or 190 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: how it's been. 191 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: They're okay, they can get hot. Like you said, they're dangerous. 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: They have stars, Yeah, their stars showed last night, but 193 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: they also have holes too. I mean there's there's a 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: couple of injuries on the horizon for that team too. 195 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: And they're not very deep. 196 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not. They're not deep at all. So we 197 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: were talking, maybe it was power ranking day, about there 198 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: being five good teams in the AFC. I don't know, 199 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: that might be a stretch. That might be a stretch. 200 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that I would put Houston in that same. 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't today. I might a month from Algo. Yeah, 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: Houston's back. Okay, they're they're good, but I wouldn't today. Yeah, 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean they need this time off. 204 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: So really right now, after that game last night, the 205 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: Steelers move into the two seed in the AFC, behind 206 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: Kansas City. So it's Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston, Denver, Baltimore, 207 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: and Flow wins they take it back though, uh No, 208 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: the Steelers have well they would they would be seven 209 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: and two, so they would move ahead of the Steelers 210 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: in that regard. Yeah, okay, okay, but the Steelers right 211 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: now have a better Buffalo's two conference losses. 212 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew the Houston one. That's not great for them. 213 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: They're in good shape though. I mean, I'm not worried 214 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: at all about Buffalo. I think they're a really good. 215 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: Team, but I don't I don't really care if I'm 216 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: the two or three or four seed, or even the five. 217 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: Being the five seed, like, if you're in one of 218 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: those top Kansas City's probably goes and goes. I would 219 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: assume they're the wins thirteen games or fourteen games. I mean, 220 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: their history in the division is so strong. Maybe there'll 221 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: be five and one in the West I don't even know. 222 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they could lose this week. They got Tampa Bay. 223 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: But Tampa, but it's at home. I mean a favor 224 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: by eight and a half points. I know, yeah, I mean, 225 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: but it's a losable game. It's a losible game. They 226 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: don't blow anybody out. Then they get the Broncos at home. 227 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: They're at the Bills. I'll probably pick the Bills. Now, 228 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I probably picked the Bills as well. At the Panthers. 229 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: This Raiders at home, Chargers at home. I say, they 230 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: have a lot of division games left at the Browns. 231 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: Then they get the Texans, and they're at the Steelers, 232 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: and they're at the Broncos. 233 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: They're to be resting people in that last game probably. 234 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine them not winning fourteen games 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: this year. Yeah, yeah, I mean they haven't lost one yet. 236 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 3: Those teams other than Buffalo, there wasn't why any of 237 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: the jump. 238 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: Realistically, they could have their division wrapped up early December. 239 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean it's Chargers in Denver. Just keep 240 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: hanging around, that's what will slow that down. But you're right, 241 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: I mean by week seventeen it might be over. 242 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they could have the which they play 243 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers. 244 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, is that when they put on Christmas Yeah, yeah, 245 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: we even thought about that when the schedule came out, like, 246 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: could they mean such good shape that Christmas Day? 247 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: They're resting people? And somebody misconstrued that in the in 248 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: the comments section of something, saying that we were wishing 249 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: for injuries with the No, that's not what we said. 250 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: That's not what we're saying. That's not what we're saying. 251 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: We're saying they could be if you if a guy 252 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: has a minor injury, yeah, you could rest him in 253 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: that game and just hold him out because you're only playing. 254 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: You have four days arrest, you have four days rest, 255 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: and that games in the grand scheme of things, might 256 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: not be that meaningful for Kansas City. 257 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: Like I doubt it, but they could conceivably be undefeated 258 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: up somewhere. 259 00:11:59,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure they will. 260 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't like their chances in Buffalo, but they either 261 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: they'll probably lose one to Denver or something like that. 262 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost to Denver last year. They lost to 263 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: the Raiders last year. You know, so they're not a powerhouse. 264 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: They're not. No, that's the thing. 265 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: Divisions aren't Those two divisions aren't very Those three divisions 266 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: aren't very competitive. 267 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in the AFC, but if you look 268 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: at the NFC, Detroit's good. Detroit. Detroit right now is 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: my number one team in the league. Me too. I 270 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: don't think Washington. They're six and two, but I don't 271 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: think they're a six and two type team. I think 272 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: they're more of a five hundred ish team that's had 273 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: some good The Giants should have beaten them if they 274 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: didn't lose their kicker and mar the Hail Mary last week. 275 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: They're very easily could be four and four right now. 276 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: They're a wonderful story. It's a great story. Yeah, and 277 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: I think they'll end up in the playoffs. Yeah. 278 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if Philly even win the division. I 279 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: think Philly might be better than. 280 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: Them right now, but they're what do they got left here? Washington? Yeah, 281 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: they get the Giants this week. It's in New York, though, 282 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: I say they're only favored by like four or five. Yeah. 283 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: Then they get the Steelers. Then they're at the Eagles, 284 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: and they get the Cowboy Ways and the Eagles game 285 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: could do a determined the division. The Titans, and they're 286 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: at the Saints. Then it's the Eagles again. Then it's 287 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: the Falcons, and it's at the Cowboys. They could there's 288 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: a lot of those. They might struggle to get to 289 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: the to ten wins. Yeah, like it's that again, it's 290 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: that PLEXI like, they're they're not a deep, talented run. No. 291 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: I mean there's bad things on the horizon for them 292 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: still too. They're overachieving, you know, and they're getting some bounces. 293 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: But if they win's great. 294 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: If they win ten games this year, this season is 295 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: a success. Oh yeah, it's already a success. Yeah. 296 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, because they got any game, they got 297 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: a coach, they've rebuilt the culture quickly. Yeah, it's already 298 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: a success. I mean unless they get abused the rest 299 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: every game by thirty points. But I mean it's definitely 300 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: a success. 301 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: The Falcons are a. 302 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: They might be better than Washington, a good team. Both 303 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: those teams don't have good defenses. 304 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: They have a lot of firepower. Arizona's leading the West 305 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, they got They're not good. I'm not 306 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: sure that's going to hold on green Bay. Green Bay 307 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: is a good for football team. Minnesota, I believe is 308 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: a good football team. Yeah. I think Minnesota rebound's are 309 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: a big way this week. Yeah, the Eagles are a 310 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: good football team. They're trending that way. 311 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: Any good way could Dallas get back to being a 312 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: good football team. 313 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like they're years shot too. 314 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: There's twenty and four though, so they're not horrible. 315 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: They're not out of it out of it like the Jets. 316 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: Dallas since he are still dangerous. 317 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they got quarterbacks, they've got recent success. 318 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,359 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'd put Miami in that category 319 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: because I think Miami has to win in Buffalo this 320 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: week losing to Arizona. 321 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Was Well, here's the thing for the Cowboys. They're at 322 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: the Falcons this week. Then they get the Texans. I 323 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: like Falcons big in that game. Yeah, Then they get 324 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: the Texans. I'm sorry Falcons. Then they get the Eagles 325 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: and the Texans. Then they play at Washington, then they 326 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: get the Giants, the Bengals, at the Panthers, Tampa Bay, 327 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: and at the Eagles, and finish up with the Commanders. 328 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: So my big takeaway there is these next four are 329 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: all hinge games for them, Like they're not gonna be 330 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: huge favorites or dogs in any of them. But they 331 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: could go on four and all of them. Yeah, I mean, 332 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: if they were playing any of those four games today, 333 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: I would pick against Dallas. Parsons comes back, which is great. 334 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean that's like playing without t. J. 335 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Watt. I mean it's a legit excuse. 336 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: But if they even go two and two over that 337 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: four game stretch, I don't think that's a playoff team. 338 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: The end of five and six, Yeah, I'm still the 339 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: NFC is so hard. Yeah, But I mean, are some 340 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: of these teams going to be because right now. 341 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: I think three teams in the North are going Yeah, 342 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: but there's only gonna there's only gonna be one team 343 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: from the from the South. Yeah, there's only gonna be 344 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: one in Tampa's dead. They're four and four right now 345 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: and they're just done. 346 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: Much firepower, and they're probably gonna lose in Kansas City 347 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: on Friday Night. 348 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: You know, you're only gonna get one team from the West, 349 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: I would assume. So that leaves the door. I don't 350 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: know if Seattle and the Rams are worse than Dallas, 351 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean that leaves but that would leave Dallas fighting 352 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: with Chicago and maybe one of those West teams Washington. 353 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: Washington were the Eagles right now? In. Washington's in Washington, 354 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: Eagles are in. 355 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine three from that division going. I 356 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: can't either, especially there's three from the North. 357 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they might have to beat Philly twice 358 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: or beat Washington twice or whatever. You know, Well, it 359 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: can't be three if they're stree from the north. There's 360 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: only three wild cards. 361 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: That's what I mean, right, I mean, I'm pretty sure 362 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: certain that three from the North are going. And I 363 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: can't imagine Philly or Washington getting in or Dallas getting 364 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: in ahead of those. 365 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: Although we talked about it and Minnesota's on a two 366 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: game losing streak. 367 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is an absolutely crucial game 368 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: for them. Yeah, like they either rebound big without their 369 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: left tackle, but Hawk comes back, or maybe that's really 370 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: a five hundred team that got hot for a while. 371 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: You know, Cam Robinson is not a placement for Christian Garrison. 372 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: No, I mean, they're lucky they got him compared to 373 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: what they're playing with. But that's going to be a 374 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: problem a year. 375 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: No, I agree, But it's just interesting, you know, how 376 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 2: things change from game to game in the NFL. 377 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: I was on a podcast this morning. The Jets back 378 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: are they a contender. I don't think so. 379 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: A contender. 380 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I don't think so. They what a 381 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: four or five game losing streak, had. 382 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: A five game losing you don't win one and suddenly 383 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: become a contender, but you still have all the is 384 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: that you had with in that five game losing. 385 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: We were texting back and forth, and this was true 386 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: for both teams last night. But it was a sloppy 387 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: game and just in general, I mean, they are just 388 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: too stupid stuff. I'll say they're not a disciplined team 389 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: at all. I don't trust them to know how to win. 390 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: I think the quarterback has too much say in things, 391 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: and he's not the player used to be. If it's 392 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: MVP Rodgers, different ball. 393 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: He's not that guy. He's not that guy. And that 394 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: folks when anytime that the Steelers have a high penalty game, 395 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, the first thing that you read any somewhere 396 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: in comments are on social media, Well, it's such an 397 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: undisciplined team. No, the Jets are an undiscipline Yeah. Yeah. 398 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: They do this week in and week out, making silly mistakes, 399 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: dropping the ball before they go in the end zone. 400 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Leading the league in penalty yardage. Yeah, it's been a 401 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: season long thing for them. 402 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: Houston has been at the top of league all year too. 403 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: But those are all, not all, but a high percentage 404 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: of them are O line ones. Yeah, they're holds their 405 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: pre snap stuff. That's a little more correctable. But Jets 406 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: do a lot of dumb stuff. 407 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: Dumb stuff. Yeah. Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. 408 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolli. You're listening 409 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: to the Drive. You're on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt 410 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: and I will be back with more right after. 411 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 412 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 413 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 414 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the 415 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers 416 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 2: Audio Network. And of course you can hear the Drive 417 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday from four to six pm. You 418 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: can listen to that anywhere you get Steelers Nation Radio, 419 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: and of course the best way to do that is 420 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: to download the Steelers app on your phone and just 421 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: get it downloaded right into your phone. You can watch 422 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: on YouTube. You like that as well. You can leave 423 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: us your comments. Matt. Let's take a look at the 424 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: quarterback Index. Okay, we have done in a week. We 425 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: haven't done that since last week where we saw where 426 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson jumped in there. Nick Schuck does these on 427 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. I think Wilson's on the rise. You 428 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: would think you'd think at number thirty two. We had 429 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: a new number thirty two this week, down four spots. 430 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler. He's not gonna start this week. I'm not 431 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: gonna start this week. Okay he has been starting? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 432 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: we can. I go through this. 433 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: Every time we go through it, is it whoever started 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: last or who bound last? Yeah, okay, then Rattler should 435 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: definitely be last. He was awful, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 436 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: So you're hoping to get some glimpses out of him, 437 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: and it was not a good glimpse. Thirty one, down 438 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: seven spots with his forty four point four percent completion percentage. 439 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, I think he's at that stage. 440 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's sitting him down as the only only 441 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: answer at the moment. 442 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: Seven interceptions, six fumbles, tapping out of games. Yeah, I 443 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: think he's swimming and needs to be calmed down. At 444 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: this point in his career. He has now played in 445 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: ten games, okay ten. I think he's probably finished six 446 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: of them, four of them, five of them. He left 447 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: the game against the Steelers, unfortunately for the Steelers. If 448 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: he'd have stayed in that game, the Steelers win it. O. 449 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean I think he hit his 450 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: one big play. Yeah yeah, I think well. 451 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: I think definitely think it helped their causes that he 452 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: went out BLACKO gives them a way better chance, it makes. 453 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: Any more dangerous team. Yeah, no, you need to be 454 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: sit down. At thirty. He moves back into this. Bryce Young. 455 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: I'd still rather play against Richardson than Young, or the 456 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: other way around. I'd play Richardson any day of the week. 457 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: I think he stinks. I think they're both horrible. He 458 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: completes forty four percent of his passes. He can't complete passes. 459 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: You're an NFL quarterback and you can't complete passes. I 460 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: get it. I just think Young's horrific too. He's at 461 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: least he's completing almost fifty nine more actresses. Yeah yeah, 462 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: at twenty nine, down two spots. Mason Rudolph, Okay, I 463 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: mean he's a high end backup at twenty eight, down 464 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: five spots, Drake May. 465 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: I'd put him on ahead to everyone listed. I don't 466 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: know if to off my head everyone that started last week, 467 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: but he's got it. I mean he's a wild stallion, 468 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: he's all over the place, but he does good things. 469 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: At twenty seven, down two spots. I thought he played 470 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: well last week. Daniel Jones, he played under Everyone blames 471 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: him for everything. 472 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: I don't think he's great. Don't get me wrong, No 473 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: one does. But I mean that was not the reason 474 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: they lost. No, you know, he was fine. No, he 475 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: kept him in the game. I thought, yeah, yeah, he 476 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: made some throws. He was fine. 477 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: At twenty six he was un ranked last week. Gardner Minshew. 478 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: I'd rather play against Gardner Minshew than Daniel Jones. 479 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a good point, definitely. I mean, how 480 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: about Minshew versus Rudolph. 481 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: I'd rather play against Minch Minshew. Seven games he's appeared 482 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: and he has eight interceptions and four fund. 483 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: He's a lot more volatile he is, and his hots 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: aren't that hot. No, no, like, I mean, he had 485 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: an ok year for Indy, but he really limits what 486 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: you can call and what you can do too, you know. 487 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: I mean that's the thing about those guys is they 488 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: can the relief pitchers. They can come in and get 489 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: the job done and get a. 490 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: Couple outs or whatever. But if you just start every 491 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: five days, it's like, I know how to play against him. Yeah, 492 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: it's too easy. Yeah. Uh at twenty five up a 493 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: spot Bo Nicks, he's trending the right way. I got 494 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: no problem with that. I think you have to put 495 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: him ahead of May at this point. Yeah. 496 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: You know, he's more experienced and starting to show, and 497 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: you know he makes plate my legs. 498 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Next two hundred and fifty nine rushing yards and 499 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: four touchdowns and hasn't fallen jit. Yeah, I mean he's 500 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: a good runner. Yeah, he's been better than what I 501 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: thought he would be. Yeah. 502 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: Now they didn't throw the ball, no, and he's done 503 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: his best things against bad teams. 504 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: But there's bad teams out there. Yeah, twenty four down 505 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: five spots Caleb Williams, he's really brutal. 506 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: He's gonna be up and down. It's like crazy. That's 507 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: the thing about Daniels. 508 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm shocked. 509 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: Daniels isn't more whoa you got away with that one 510 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: kind of stuff? Yeah, and maybe it's still coming for him, 511 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: you know. I mean it happens almost every rookie. Williams 512 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: has bright spots. He does a lot. People rave about 513 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: him at the line of scrimmage like that, he has 514 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: a lot on his plate if that's hurting him though, Like, 515 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: even if you're great at the line of scrimmage and 516 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: all the changes and all the mental stuff, it's just 517 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: one more thing for a rookie to deal with, you 518 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, is that helping or hurting him? 519 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: Even if he's nice as you can do it, but 520 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: it real nice if you didn't have to do. 521 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I mean, if you could just worry about 522 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: make my read throw the ball move on first out. 523 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: At twenty three down seven spots. This was before last night. 524 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers seems a little harsh. He wasn't good last night, 525 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: though he hasn't been good all. 526 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: Year now by low completion percentage too. For as quick 527 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: as he gets the ball out, his completion percentage for 528 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: the year is it's okay, sixty one point six going 529 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: into last night. Ma, he got out on two point 530 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: two last night. That's end of career bend stuff. I mean, 531 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: that's just gotta gotta go, you know. And he's a 532 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: quick processor. But that's not that hard to play against. 533 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: No. At twenty two unranked before last week, to Attago 534 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Va Loo seems a little harsh too. Here's the thing, though, 535 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: The Dolphins are the lowest scoring team in the league. Okay, 536 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: losing two attago vi lois should not destroy your season. 537 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad you went there. It shouldn't be that catastrophic. 538 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: It's not losing Josh Allen. 539 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean. This is like the 540 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: Steelers losing Russell Wilson. 541 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 3: Say, I've heard the counter argument, which I don't agree with, 542 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: or like, well that's why you pay this guy sixty 543 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: million or fifty million or whatever it is. I'm like, 544 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: I still can see. I mean, he's not special. He's 545 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: not Mahomes. And if you're structured to the point where 546 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: a good NFL quarterback like that wouldn't happen to Detroit 547 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: if Goff were out, they wouldn't be the lowest scoring 548 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: offense in the league. No, you know, and he's a 549 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: good player, but he's not a special player. 550 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: Two has thrown three interceptions and has three fumbles in 551 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: three games. Like, he is not a high end quarterback. 552 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: He just isn't. I totally agree. 553 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: I also think that there's it gets washed away because 554 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: people care about him and his body is scary and 555 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: you know, the concussion stuff. But it wasn't playing great, 556 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 3: but he got hurt, you know, I mean last year, 557 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: but last year he little league in passing yards, you know, 558 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: like I'd probably have him higher on that list, but 559 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: I guess he was ahead of. 560 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: Them at twenty one, wasn't rated last week. Jameis Winston, 561 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: who's better of those two? I'm a Winston guy. But 562 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: he threw a couple of balls last week that he 563 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: got away with at least three that I can think of. 564 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: That story could have been an interception that should have 565 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: been an interception. I think he's still below like Rogers 566 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: and two. It to me put a couple of games 567 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: together where. 568 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: He's very volatile. 569 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he just benefits from not 570 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: being Deshaun Watson. 571 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: Well there's that, which is fine. You know, there's value 572 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: to that too. He'll be eating those ws this year. 573 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: People love them at twenty down seven spots And this 574 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: is really kind of how he's played of late. The 575 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: last couple of games Dak Prescott. It's been rough. 576 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: I mean this is true for twenty six guys on 577 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: this list. He needs good stuff around him, you know, 578 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: and they. 579 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: Don't run the ball at all. They can't run the. 580 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: Line starting to crumble. I mean, it's him and CD 581 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: versus the world, and it takes a toll. Defense isn't 582 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: making plays for him. But that doesn't excuse He's in 583 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: the league, top of the league and turnover where he plays. 584 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: That's not usually who he is. But it all adds 585 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: up and doesn't mean he should throw it to the 586 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 3: other team. 587 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: At nineteen, up three spots. Trevor Lawrence gradually getting back. 588 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that W'll. 589 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: Ever be elite, but he's all the receivers are hurting 590 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: now so as I know. ATN Gabe, Davis and Thomas 591 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: are all highly questionable. You know, game time decisions. There 592 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: are seasons about the crumble. I like him though, I mean, 593 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: I think this is I think he's trending. 594 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: The right direction. At eighteen holding steady Russell Wilson. 595 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: I'd have him higher than everybody listed. It's only two games. 596 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't know how much value you can put in 597 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: that if you're doing a list, but he said two. 598 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: I think his second game is a lot better than 599 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: the first. 600 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: I do too. 601 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I know they've been scored 602 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: with quite as many points. I thought he threw the 603 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: football better. There definitely was a rust factor to start 604 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: the first game. Yeah, he's been good. 605 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: It's seventeen up four spots, so he leapfrog Russell Wilson. 606 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. 607 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: It was his best game yet. I'm not a big 608 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: believer against the Bengals. I'm not a big believer, but 609 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: I've thought he's overrated, even when they were going to 610 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: Super Bowls and stuff. 611 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: But you can win with them at sixteen down two spots. 612 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, I thought he had one of his best 613 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: games too. I would have him higher than that. 614 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: I have a feeling. I mean he's a tough guy 615 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: to play against too. I mean he is a playmaker. 616 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: I think that offense is starting a round into shape 617 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: pretty well. But at the beginning of the season wasn't 618 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: great for him. 619 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: At fifteen up five spots, so he lead prog Russell Wilson, 620 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I. 621 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: Think he should be so much higher. I think he's 622 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: having a tremendous year. They just does have a volume. Yeah, 623 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: started season slow with his injury, but he looks great now. 624 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: I mean he might be like five for me. 625 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 2: At fourteen, down five spots, Gino Smith starting to come 626 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: back to earth Alow. 627 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: He's a streaky player now able to have a good 628 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: month and a bad month. Now it's not a bad month, 629 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 3: but it's not top ten stuff like he started the season. 630 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: There are lines of problem. It's a problem. Yeah. At thirteen, 631 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: up two spots. Kirk Cousins is. 632 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Who he is, makes plays probably as a ceiling. Probably 633 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: won't get much higher though on that list all year 634 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: than right about there, but that's worth fifty million or whatever. 635 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: At twelve holding Steady brock Purdy not great showing of 636 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: lately that last one. He has seven interceptions in five 637 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: fumbles in eight games. 638 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: So he doesn't play the close to the vest Jimmy 639 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: Garoppolo style. 640 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: And it's only ten touchdown passes since you know, so 641 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's good. Completetion percentage is way down 642 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: from where it's usually at because he doesn't have guys 643 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: running open all the right place, Like I don't think 644 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: he's an elevator at all. 645 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: Like I was about saying, imagine Justin Herbert in that offense. Yeah, 646 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean, like, there's no way they'd both be ranked there. 647 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: And I was a massive Party skeptic even his entire 648 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: rookie year. I even said things like I'd rather pick 649 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: it than party, you know, after one season. But I 650 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: had never gonna think he's a top ten guy, yeah, 651 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: or an elevator for that matter. 652 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: And eleven down a spot. Baker Mayfield, He's had a 653 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: really good year, but he makes a lot of again, 654 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: nine interceptions, he's thrown in eight games, four fumbles. Him 655 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: and Winston have a lot in common, they do. They 656 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: are almost the same guy. 657 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Right first, overall pick, They're about the same athletic league. 658 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: They're going to put the ball on harms away, Yeah, 659 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: They're going to take chances right, right right, and everybody 660 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: makes a through for all these jars and look, twenty 661 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 2: one touchdown passes. Twenty one touchdown passes. Great it is, 662 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: but he's also got nine interceptions, so he's throwing a 663 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: lot to the other team too, Like he'll take risks. 664 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: He wouldn't be in my top he'd be five spots 665 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: lower in that for me. At ten up one spot, 666 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, who. 667 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: That seems a little rich, seems a little rich. Let's 668 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: see how things. That's kind of an incomplete grade for me, 669 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: but let's see how it goes. 670 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: At nine down a spot, Jordan Love, he's kind of 671 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: in that same boat areas Winston and Oh he puts 672 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way. 673 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: He is a lot of fun to watch. He can 674 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: make throws that only three guys on this list can, 675 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: and he will try them, you know, and it doesn't 676 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: all yeah, and he's still learning, but boy, I'd love 677 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: him to be my quarterback. It's fun to watch. 678 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: At eight up nine spots, we thought he was low 679 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: last week. Matthew Stafford good. Imagine when you give him 680 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: cupping the coupa back. 681 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: I mean, that's don't have to last week. That's why 682 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: they were so hard on him, and that's not his fault. 683 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: At seven holding steady Jayden Daniels. 684 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm excited to really dig into him next week. 685 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's a tremendous player, tremendous story. 686 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: I bet a little bit of it. It's I'm not 687 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: sure that it's super sustainable that we're over the hump. 688 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: And he's the top seven guy forever and ever and ever. 689 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: That's hard to do. 690 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 691 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 692 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: Six C J. 693 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: Stroud, I was wondering. I mean, it's his stocks as 694 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: low as it's ever been, and he was not good 695 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: last night. But I also think things are crumbling around 696 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: him too. 697 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: He would be a little lower for me right now. 698 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: Five is Jared Goff playing phenomenal. Four is Joe Burrow 699 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: down a spot? Okay? No Higgins this week again, by 700 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, Three down a spot. Patrick Mahomes the 701 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: weird one. He has more interceptions in touchdown passes. He 702 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: threw his first touchdown pass this month last week against 703 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: the Raiders. 704 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: I mean, how he's playing is sixteen. Yeah, but you 705 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: can't put him at sixteen, you know. I mean that's 706 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: how he's playing. 707 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Two is up two spots as Josh Allen and number 708 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: one is Lamar Okay. I mean they're having the best 709 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: two years along with Goff. Like I think, if. 710 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: If I were to bet who would win the MVP today, 711 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: I would think Lamar, Golf and Allen were probably the 712 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: shortest odds in Vegas. 713 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: Is there an issue after we go through this this 714 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: quarterback list of teams developing young quarterbacks. Are they playing 715 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: too early, too much? Too early? 716 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: I think the short answer is yes, because I think 717 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: the offensive lines aren't there for them. The offenses are 718 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: more complex than ever. It's harder. I think it's a 719 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: little harder now than like RG three to just rely 720 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: on your legs and get you out of things, you know, 721 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: because that's a it's an important piece, don't get me wrong. 722 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: But defenses have caught onto that too, you know, And 723 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: then you take a lot of hits, and then you 724 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 3: get in like the Richardson mode where now I'm getting 725 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: hit all the time. 726 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: I can't finish games. 727 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just think it's the nature of 728 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: the league, which is unfortunate that these coaches don't have 729 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: enough leeway either, Like you can't Bradshaw it. 730 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: There's just not enough time at any point, at any point. 731 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: And it's so hard, and it's such an adjustment adjustment, 732 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: and the college game is so much different, and all 733 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: these grown men in the locker room looking at you 734 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: as a young kid, like you're our leader now, and 735 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: I'm thirty three and I've got millions in the bank, 736 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know, I'm ready to be 737 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 3: the leader now, you know. So, Yeah, And I definitely 738 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 3: think there's value in these reclamation projects too, Fields, Donald, 739 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: you know, all the way. There's so many of them 740 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: this year. But just because you're another team's trash, doesn't 741 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: mean you can't have a good career, you know. 742 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what we're kind of learning here. 743 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if we go through that list again, Mayfield's 744 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: pretty high. A bunch of those guys that have been 745 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: they started their career somewhere else other than where they're 746 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 2: at now. Yeah, And it's not like somebody and they 747 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: gave up on them, yeah, or you know, moved on 748 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: from on purpose. 749 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm not sure what the 750 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: answer is though, Like Chicago with Field is a great example. 751 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean, they would go through coach, a couple of coaches, 752 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 3: a bunch of different coordinators. I do think the Rooney 753 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 3: way of stability is something more teams should at least 754 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: try to. 755 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: Emulate, especially if you've got a young quarterback. You know, 756 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 2: you got to, like you can't change stuff on him constantly. 757 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: And it depends who your young quarterback is too, Like 758 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: if it's Levice all right, he was a second round pick, 759 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, like we want to see what we had 760 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: in him. 761 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: We weren't going to be But that's part of the problem, 762 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 2: is that a lot of these guys are getting overdrafted. 763 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. There's no way on God's green earth 764 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 2: that Anthony Richardson should have been a top five draft pick. 765 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Daniel Jones. I mean, like Daniel 766 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: Zones and Richardson at least has more traits. They shouldn't 767 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 2: be Trey Lance shouldn't be top ten picks. 768 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: No one talks about Trey Lance anymore. I mean, he's 769 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: he can't complete passes either. 770 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: People get mad about the Steelers draft and can he 771 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: pick it? He was twentieth, he was twentieth, twentieth and 772 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: even like this class six went into what the top 773 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: fourteen or whatever it was. I forget what the number was. Yeah, 774 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: maybe fifteen. Two are gonna be good, right, you know, 775 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: one might be great, two others will be good, the 776 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: other two will be picket ritter on some other team 777 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: before you know it. 778 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: Types you knoweah, probably how it'll go. But I just think, 779 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 3: but otherwise, how'd he get them? Everybody's chasing them, and 780 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: what's the answer, though, I mean, everybody wants Mahomes, but. 781 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: Settle for dak right, you know what I mean? Who 782 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: was a fifth round pick. Yeah, you know Mahomes. They 783 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 2: had to trade up to get him where they got him, 784 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: and they were fortunately. I mean I think sitting his 785 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: first year helped him a lot. Yeah. 786 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: And like Alan reinvented himself, Lamar didn't have the world 787 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: on his shoulders right away. He was a thirtieth pick 788 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 3: or whatever it was. Flacco is a starter. 789 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: They eased them in. You know, it's not easy, not easy. No, anyways, 790 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 791 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 792 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back 793 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: with more right after this. 794 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 795 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 796 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 797 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the 798 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Mad as you mentioned earlier in the show, 799 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: No T Higgins again for the Yeah Bengals this week. 800 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 3: And Orlando Browns out too well. Both of them are doubtful, 801 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: which almost always means they're not playing. 802 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: Now they play the Raiders this week. 803 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think they win that game no matter what. 804 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: But it's a crucial week for them. I mean, if 805 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 3: you lose. I came into this week in the AFC 806 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 3: saying the Jets, Dolphins, Bengals are either win or solitary 807 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: deadline teams. And since he has a game ahead of 808 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: those two, and the Jets won last night, and since 809 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: he plays the Raiders, so that might not be as 810 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: crucial as we thought. Miami going to Buffalo after losing Arizona, 811 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: it could be, yeah, sell everything after that game. 812 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they will. I don't think they 813 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: will either. Don't think that's their DNA, you know, No, 814 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't think so. But yeah, I mean that that's 815 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 2: could Higgins get moved? Not if they win. Well, here's 816 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: the problem though, he's hurt. He's hurt. In the trade 817 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: deadline Tuesday, Who's trading for Andrew T. Higgins? Yeah, I'm 818 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: not doing it. It's the same thing with with uh 819 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: what's his face in Carolina? Theling? Yeah yeah, I can't 820 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: trade for Thelon right now. He hasn't played again too much, 821 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: Like you can't do that? 822 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I think since he's in trouble. Yeah, oh 823 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 3: I think they win. I think they should. But you 824 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: lose that one, it's real trouble. 825 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. We're just having a discussion candy bars. Ah, and 826 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: there was a mallow cup out there, right, and I 827 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: thought they were extinct too. There's some candy that we 828 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: were just talking about. They didn't have one in a 829 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: long long time. See, you seem to like marshmallow and coconut. 830 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: Those are in the candy bar world. Those are maybe 831 00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: my bottom too. 832 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: Ingredients. Marshmallows, Yeah, rolled down the list. I love marshmallows. 833 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: Did you ever just you never just like got the 834 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: big thing of the whip, marshmallow whip and just eat 835 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: it right out of the That would be I'd rather 836 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: roasting a marshmallow over the fire. 837 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: That's okay. I haven't done it in twenty years. I 838 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 3: mean I have probably forty years now. They think about it. 839 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: I was a kid, okay, Yeah, but like trust me, 840 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm a super calorie conscious in terms of my intake. 841 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: They're not worth it to me, you know, Like to me, 842 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: like I got to at least kind of like it, 843 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: And they're like I'd have to fight to get through 844 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: a marshmallow and coconuts fine, like on a desert island. 845 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: AL eat coconuts all day long, like Tom Hanks, but 846 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: I don't pick it. 847 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: We drip the juice out and tried to. 848 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm more of a We were talking about 849 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: my faves are one hundred grands. 850 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: Those were good. Yeah. 851 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 3: We gave those out last night on purpose so I 852 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: could have one and butterfinger. 853 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 2: Those are big, you know, eightie Ruth, I was big 854 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: on I used to love the Marathon bar. Remember the 855 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 2: Marathon and all it was was karma, a lot of 856 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: almost extinct. It was just caramel and chocolate, but the 857 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: kramel was all like kind of swirled, so it was 858 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 2: kind of like getting a Just I have a hard 859 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: time remembering something I loved. Okay, we're good. We were 860 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: talking about Clark Bars. It's a thousand grand bar without 861 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: the without the Yeah, it's funny. 862 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 3: Candy bars are kind of like Mexican food. There's only 863 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: like eight ingredients and no matter how you mix them up, 864 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: it's fine. 865 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're doing like some of these candies that 866 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: they do in other countries and stuff. 867 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: Well there's some crazy bonkers and crazy some stuff. Yeah, 868 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 3: that I don't know much about here's a very interesting 869 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: or here's a splits people. 870 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: You're a licorice guy or not. I love liquors. I 871 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: do too. 872 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 3: I think they have to be old, though, especially black liquors. 873 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 3: There's people that really don't like black liquors. I could 874 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: eat black lickers. 875 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing wrong that. No, it's right right. I 876 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: don't eat nearly, young young fellow over here, blacklickers bar. 877 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: You just stick to the hotline justin you know about that. 878 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there's just so many more candies 879 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: back in the day and now it's. 880 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: Like, is that true. I just don't eat candy much. 881 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 3: I only know this stuff around Halloween. 882 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 2: I just think I feel like there's a lot of 883 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: them that aren't around anymore that used to be. 884 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 3: I only eat candy because it sits in the bowl 885 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: at this building, Like I would never grab one at home. 886 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: That's true. I don't. 887 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: I don't eat candy nowhere else but here, nowhere else 888 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 3: but here unless it's Halloween. Yeah, one day year, so 889 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 3: threehund and sixty four days of a year. I do 890 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: not eat candy unless it's right around the corner in 891 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 3: the kitchen. 892 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 2: I'm really not even supposed to be eating that. 893 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 3: But you're also diabetic too, that's not exactly the best 894 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 3: move for you. But like a pie or a pastry, 895 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: I'll eat that for sure. I mean there's sweets at 896 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 3: a house, but not a candy bar. Yeah, there you 897 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: have it. There you go, smork though, I mean keeping 898 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: it since it's a Steeler game. Clark bars were class 899 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: Clark bars were Did you see any of those last night? 900 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 2: Clark bars? I did see a Zach. 901 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 3: Say you mentioned a nut that's a direct cousin of 902 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 3: a Clark bar, right, Yeah, like they have the same mom, 903 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: like they're no, they have the same their moms or 904 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: sisters like their first cousins. They're brother they might even 905 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 3: be brothers and sisters. 906 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: They could be. They're pretty close. Yeah. Yeah, Watch the 907 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: McCall it was kay on my list too. Watch mc 908 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 2: call it was good. Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, 909 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: but are those around anymore? I don't know. I haven't 910 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: seen a wetch mccon forever for sure. I don't even 911 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 2: know what a watch mccull it was in it. Definitely 912 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 2: some rice krispy stuff, definitely chocolate on top. There was something. 913 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: There's some glue in there. It's important. 914 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 3: It might have been glue. What I could eat a 915 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 3: million of two or jolly ranchers that kind of stuff too. 916 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: I could. I was a big laffy taffy fan. Yeah. 917 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: I never had braces and people with braces couldn't do. Yeah. 918 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: But m this is stuff really gone down the rabbit hole. 919 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: We're not talking football at all. Let's turn this around 920 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: and talk some football high week day after Halloween. What 921 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? Man? What's on the top of 922 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 2: my mind? So, Matt, when we start to get into 923 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: this basically what essentially is the second half of the season. Yeah, yeah, 924 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 2: especially with the Steelers being in a bye week situation. Yeah, 925 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: are there is there something you're looking for more out 926 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 2: of this Steeler team that you want to see? Like 927 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: this has been okay, but I want to see more 928 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: of this. Yeah. 929 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: One of my concerns, slash interests is something we've talked 930 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 3: about a lot, interior un defense, and this last game 931 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: I thought was a bad example of that. A lot 932 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: of it, as you've noted many times, is out a nickel. 933 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: But if you just think about the human beings in 934 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: the box, doesn't matter what team you're playing. There's five 935 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 3: offensive linemen, all of whom are three hundred plus pounds, yes, 936 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: and probably a tight end and the ball carrier, you know, 937 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 3: three wide and if you're six. 938 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 2: In the box. 939 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: While most of these guys are really good players, just 940 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: in terms of tonnage, are what high Smith, Hayward Ogin, Jobie. 941 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 2: Wilson and Queen You're out man, you know what I mean? 942 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: You're giving up about a lot of beef with a 943 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: five man offensive line or a tight end in there 944 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: as well. You're you're you're down a good two or 945 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: three hundred pounds, right, I mean just a full body 946 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,479 Speaker 2: of course. And now TJ. 947 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 3: Watts better than the dude blocking them, and high Smith 948 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: probably is two, and those guys set the edge. But 949 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 3: just in terms of beef in the box, they're six 950 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: versus our six and plus a ball carrier. I mean, 951 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 3: these aren't new problems. 952 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: Run in the line that you have to walk right 953 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: and the league a three to four defense, and you're 954 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 2: in your defensive ends in that nickel defense, are are 955 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pounds right there? 956 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: Linebackers, they're not Hutchinson or Miles Garrett or somebody like that. 957 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean a front four that other nickel packages are 958 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 3: probably heavier. But it doesn't mean you want to keep 959 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 3: a nose on there. But I wouldn't mind Benton replacing 960 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: Ogan Jobie maybe, And I think there's some credence to 961 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: if you're getting gashed, should Roberts be one of those 962 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: two linebackers. Well that was then there were phrases another problem, you. 963 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: Know, but I think you can. I don't want to 964 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 2: retard the progress of Peyton Wilson, right right, And that's 965 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 2: just good. Yeah, he's good and and you know all 966 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: those guys are good. He's going to continue getting better. 967 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: But to your point, if Roberts is out there, they're 968 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: probably not run up the gut on you. They're gonna 969 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 2: start throwing, right right. 970 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: I mean for Wilson and Queen's best attributes are not 971 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 3: taking on guard. 972 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: Right. And you have a real few inside linebackers in 973 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 2: the league and today, really, that guess always kills me 974 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: when we're talking about linebacker prospects in the draft. It 975 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: really has trouble getting off blocks from offensive lineman. No, 976 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: you don't say, right, he has trouble. The two hundred 977 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 2: and thirty pound guy has trouble getting off the block 978 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: of a three hundred pounder, right shocking. And to Roberts 979 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: if this was nineteen eighty five, I say, he's a 980 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: pro bowl Yeah, I mean. 981 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: He truly would be a pro bowler. That's what was 982 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: asked of that position. Smash a fullback in the hole 983 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: and make a play. 984 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 2: You know, come downhill, Oh hit somebody really hard. Yeah yeah. 985 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: And if it's a guard, he can do that, you know, 986 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he can hang with those guys in today's NFL. 987 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 3: If you come out, if you're running a four to eight, 988 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 3: you don't even get drafted. So you need to be leaner. 989 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: You got to be built like Queen or Wilson, and 990 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: it could and still that's better than getting I'd rather 991 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 3: get run on for four or five yards of play. 992 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 3: Then nobody can't defend anyone in the middlefield either, you 993 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like nothing's perfal line. 994 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 2: That you have to walk and you hope for holding 995 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: penalty and completion whatever it may be. I think they 996 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 2: need more from Benton and Ogan Jobie, even in base 997 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: in the run game and holding not getting moved, you 998 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: know what I mean, because hey, you know, Heyward's getting 999 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 2: double in those situations and he's fine, he's great. That's 1000 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 2: when he's getting doubled. In those situations the other guys 1001 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: have to win. And he also can't play every snap. Yeah, 1002 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: you don't want him play in every snap. 1003 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 3: I'm not saying there one D lineman away, But you 1004 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: and I have kicked around the idea of if you 1005 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 3: had a Vita Veya. I mean, obviously I'm talking about 1006 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: like something like that, and then Benton and Ogan, Jobie 1007 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 3: and Cam are now rotating as my dns. You're complete, 1008 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I think that their 1009 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 3: front to me or their d line is still the 1010 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 3: best in the league. I believe that to be true. 1011 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 3: But if you had a big bodied, a gap player, 1012 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 3: it would be someone complete. 1013 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: Someone who eats up those double team blocks. And therefore, 1014 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 2: now Cam Heyward can't be double team right, I mean 1015 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 2: Benton can't be. 1016 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 3: Of course, it would be Dexter Lawrence or Vea or 1017 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 3: somebody like that. But that guy, of course. But I 1018 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 3: mean even the fifty percent end of that guy, mont 1019 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: Travis Adams, I think would have a role. 1020 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, So I think that's something to think about. 1021 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: I guarantee that's something that the coaching staff is thinking 1022 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: about now now this week, you know, how do we 1023 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: how do we fix this? 1024 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 3: And the only ones I can come up with are, 1025 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 3: does Adams come back soon? And not that he play 1026 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 3: a ton, but at least he'd rotate in and he's nosish. 1027 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 3: Should Benton be more of an end, Should Roberts be 1028 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 3: more in the nickel or if that situational? Yeah, or 1029 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 3: when we play the Ravens is Roberts never leave the field, 1030 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I don't know. 1031 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: Be some of that. And and yeah, you could also go, 1032 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a three safety nickel, things of that nature. 1033 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 2: Ye make you bigger. 1034 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 3: Because beanies out there. Yeah, and you have to factor 1035 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 3: in the nickel in the run game. Now, absolutely, the 1036 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 3: nickel plays an ineg integral part. And all the good 1037 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 3: offensive coaches are attacking the nickel in the run game, 1038 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 3: making him tackle. 1039 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: I think Sutton upgrades that. But to your point, big 1040 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 2: nickel would definitely upgrade that. 1041 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if you put him close to the 1042 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: line scrimmage, maybe everyone can bump in a. 1043 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: Little bit tighter too, makes it harder to move them. 1044 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's not the biggest concern in 1045 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 3: the world. I mean, it's not like can't block a soul. 1046 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean they did in the two 1047 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: games before the game against the Giants. They give up 1048 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: fifty seven and fifty four yards rushing. So it's not 1049 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 2: like it's, oh, you know, this is happening every week. 1050 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 3: This isn't a damn broke and it's a flood and 1051 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: it's incorrectable and I'll never be you know, we're talking 1052 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: about cam Hayward and Watt and high Smith and you know, 1053 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 3: your best players. Yeah, you know is the area of concern. 1054 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 3: But you know you're going to see it. Yeah, I 1055 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 3: mean you know you're going to say that absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 1056 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean really that's what Dallas did against them. 1057 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Well yeah, you know Giants success as well. 1058 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 2: You know, so maybe it's an NFC thing. Maybe those teams, 1059 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: you know, if you look at it, those teams are 1060 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: kind of built. They're built to play each other. Sure, 1061 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: there are similarities with how they're constructed. 1062 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 3: Not to mention too, if you're game planning all week 1063 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 3: as the Giant staff, well, what's watch that Cowboy game? 1064 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 2: I know how they think? Yeah right, I mean they 1065 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 2: would never do this, while. 1066 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 3: They actually tried that against the Steelers. They never try that, right, 1067 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 3: there's definitely no better. Yeah, absolutely yeah, they through their eyes. 1068 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to another break. That's uh, he is 1069 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: more Candy Barcock coming your way. There you go. I've 1070 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 2: tried to point the camera like I was being dramatic. 1071 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's your point to Tyler. Uh, he is Natt Williamson. 1072 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here 1073 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back, Matt, 1074 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 2: we gotta pick our fantasy football lineup, our DFS lineup 1075 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 2: for the week. We won last week. Right, we won 1076 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: last week. Let's two in a row. We'll do that 1077 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 2: right after this