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The possibility that 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.320 something out there might hear and perhaps respond, keeps John going. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.680 Sending out a signal, trying out a lure, trying to 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.519 get more information by luring the men close enough to 0:00:51.560 --> 0:01:05.160 get accurate electronic measurements. Contacted our local sheriffs department. They 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.679 sent out a deputy. I showed them on the soil 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.160 skull screen what was coming on? There shouldn't be that 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.280 other frequency in there. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.400 That's not part of it. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.800 Something caused that amount of energy. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.080 I think something was attractive. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:34.080 Welcome the High Strange. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.160 There is nothing wrong with your television sector. You are 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.280 about to participate in a great adventure. You are about 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.600 to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:52.240 inner mind to the outer limits. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.200 The series of the Outer Limits back in sixty five 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.920 sixty seven, the pilot episode called the Galaxy Being This 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:07.200 the most incredible episode to spark your imagination. Top ten 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.839 tunes brought to you by your boy buddy two oh 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.560 on your radio dial. The guy worked at the radio 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.880 station as at Tech. There's a transmitter shed back of 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:16.320 the station. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.600 My name is Alan Maxwell. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.680 I am transmitting from a station on the third planet 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.040 in the Solar System. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.160 He had to set up to send signals through the 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:27.760 galaxy in the deep space. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.400 I am scanning the microwaves coming from somewhere beyond the 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.480 constellation of Vegasus. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.920 And had this big glass chamber. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.480 You'd see these a psiloscope images and then you'd start 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.480 to hear a voice come. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.520 Through planets beyond said pools. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.440 Its ghostly being with spots all over it that would 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.280 appear inside this glass chamber. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:56.519 You must explore, you must reach out. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.600 I thought, what a great idea. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.440 Is the power of a radio station to reach out 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:04.480 beyond the Earth in. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.480 The space to see if there's something out there. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.840 We now returned control of your television set to you 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.120 until next week. At the same time when the control 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.040 voice will take you to the outer limits. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.600 It was all science fiction up that point in time, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:25.440 but that really set my mind a blaze. I was 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.919 working as a kid in a camera shop, and they 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.560 couldn't resist going to military surplus places in Detroit and 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.160 getting parts to build things. Learn how to look circuits 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.400 together and meters and get lights of flash and things 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.360 like that. I'd love to electronics. I love building big systems, 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.640 making it all work, figuring out how to solve the 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.280 technical problems to make these things work. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.960 What were you building, did you know or were you 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.240 just going to explore. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.800 Or trying to duplicate that transmitter? I think in my 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.600 back of my mind wasn't long before I was building 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:04.360 more sophisticated equipment machines that could do something right. Around 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.320 seventy three, in northern Michigan, there's starting to be UFO reports, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.280 all kinds of unidentified lights in the sky, objects, things 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:15.600 coming down and hovering. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:17.479 It was really weird. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.560 I got to see some of the sheriff's supports in 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.240 the Antre County Sheriff's Department, and they were interesting. I 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.560 heard a tape interview they did with a fellow and 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:27.600 was pretty intense. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:29.600 The thing came. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.719 Down hovered right over the roadway between Shandy Creek and 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.479 Shush Mountain. It caused his electrical systemized truck to fail. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.640 During that time, I started thinking more about building some 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.919 equipment to could send signals out into space. It wasn't 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.960 long before I built the first transmitter. It was a 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.920 high boldage output had a vertical direction so it would 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.599 point up into the sky. Started in my bedroom and 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.839 then it filled that Flora Saly started building bigger equipment, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:03.920 much larger and much more power. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.280 It got pretty big. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.080 Four hundred pound transformers and big converters and bullege regulators 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.320 to story high one hundred and fifty thousand banks at 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.440 power amps to produce the power the frequency of audio. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.240 To get a signal out for a greater distance, throwing 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.400 out a lure seven to a signal, try and attract 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.520 the intelligences behind these aerial craft, trying to lower them 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.200 in to get a closer look at them. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.680 That signal may be picked up. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.359 There's a possibility that they could detect it, and that 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.760 possibility is there, It's worth trying trying to get more 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.359 information by luring the men close enough to get accurate 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:57.520 electronic measurements, some hard data, something on instruments, data to learn. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:05:59.800 That's what projects travels. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.520 Inspired by science fiction, John Shepper was determined to send 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.919 a signal into the universe and make contact with alien life. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.159 John showed me an old photo album of all of 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:17.000 his enormous machines. By the way, you could tell, the 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.360 process he went through to build it all was truly 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.520 a massive undertaking literally hundreds of switches, knobs and cables, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.400 different screens measuring signals. It looked like a Steven Spielberg 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.960 movie set, except it was all real. He named the 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.280 operation Project Strat, and when the neighbors caught win of 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.839 his colossal homemade laboratory, the local news that has bought 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.240 light piece on him. Everyone around him, like me today, 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:42.960 was fascinated by it all. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.440 The heart of Project Stratt is the broadcast operation. There 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.159 are sixty thousand volts running through his basement, powering a 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.640 signal that's being straight out into space. Every day, John 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.680 beams two signals out into space, one a digital pulset 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.440 cook and the other a live radio show. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.560 Project STRAT, which stamps for Special Gelemetry Research and Tracking, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.000 which is an acronym for the technology and what we 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.000 were trying to do. I took music and put it 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.840 through huge power amps, very clean power amps that have 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.880 a lot of power, eight to twelve hours a day 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.280 of music broadcast, sending out something of our culture to 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.680 see if it would attract them closer to where I 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:26.120 was doing. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:30.920 This from. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.480 John's broadcast operation bore a striking resemblance to Nicola Tesla 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:39.040 in eighteen ninety six. Tesla, one of history's most famous inventors, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.920 also where Elon got the name from, was doing his 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.280 own high voltage experiments in the late eighteen hundreds. He 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.280 made large power transmission towers that could produce artificial lightning 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:54.480 and monitored signals in space. Tesla once wrote in his diary, quote, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.239 my first observations positively terrified me, as there was present 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.960 in them something mysterious. The feeling is constantly growing on 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.120 me that I've been the first to hear the greeting 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.560 from one planet to another. He firmly believed that he 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.760 made contact of his own with something else out there 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:16.080 in the universe. In nineteen seventy two, at the height 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.000 of John's operation in rural Michigan, all of a sudden, 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.360 there was a series of strange sightings in the sky 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.720 throughout the entire state. Reports were piling in to local 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:30.960 police departments of flying saucers. Simultaneously, John's machine began picking 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.319 up frequencies that were not normal at all. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.760 They were getting reports at that time of objects in 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:45.679 the area detected electromagnetic sturbances coming in over the power 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:51.280 lines that were never there before. Contacted our local sheriff's department. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.880 They signed out a deputy. I showed him on the 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.839 Soell scope screen what was coming on. Kind have a 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.560 sixty per frequency there, and then you have something like 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.880 one twenty fading in and fading out over the top 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.040 of that. It shouldn't be getting one hundred and twenty 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.000 one hundred and seventy hertz that strong when you're running 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.920 a sixty artz system. There shouldn't be that other frequency 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.160 in there. That's not part of it, doesn't belong there, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.520 simple as that. Something had to cause it, because it's 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.640 normally not there. It just doesn't appear out of nowhere. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.920 So what theoretically could be causing that. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.839 The thing I thought it might have been was UFOs 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.040 in the area of one or two of whatever. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.079 I don't know how many were there the. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.080 Magnetic fields emitted by these craft moving over power lines 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.079 inducing that magnetic field, and the instruments were picking it up. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.599 Had to be something that caused that amount of energy. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.000 It was circumstantial. Sure, can't prove it, but it was 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:01.400 occurring simultaneously of objects in there. So we add two 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:09.120 and two together, maybe you get four. I think something 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.440 was attractive. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.600 Did John really attract some aliens that night? Did he 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.600 finally accomplish his goal? John himself seems to think so. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:30.400 Humans they are great explorers the curiosity. You want to 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.280 explore what's below the ocean, what's up in the sky, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.960 what's at the top of that mountain over there. You 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:43.240 have to keep an open mind. We propagate the species, propagate. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.959 Look at the Earth. How many forms of life there are? 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:48.880 It's infinite. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.600 That infinity in the size of the universe, and the 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.800 galaxy is in it, and all the worlds that are 0:10:54.800 --> 0:11:00.840 in there. The possibility life, some kind of life astronomical, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.880 the possibility is there. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.040 Keep an open mind here. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.800 If we think we're the only things in this whole 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.120 huge galaxy or universe, oh it's a big waste of space. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.640 It would seem kind of strange. We can't be the 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.920 only ones, and the more you search, you may end 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.400 up with more questions and answers. But what answers you 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.720 do get are going to open your horizons of knowledge, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.120 and knowledge is an important. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:31.960 Thing for us. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:39.800 All the whole time we were talking with John, we 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.720 were surrounded by all kinds of fun synthesizers and different 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.800 musical instruments. So I asked if you could show us 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.079 around a bit and maybe play something for us. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.040 It's amazing what you can do with synthesizers. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.920 That's all kinds of effects. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:02.200 Space music. The sound seem to come from all around 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:03.199 us in the room. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.560 That is a real dream machine for creating totally exotic sounds. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.280 And you want to go exotic, you work with one 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:10.680 of those. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.320 As I'm hearing this strange music, I can see shelves 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.520 upon shelves of books about aliens, old pictures of John, 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.240 and magazines. Not to mention, the speakers themselves also looked 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:23.880 like aliens. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.200 Sound cells is the name I gave them, But they're 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.240 handmade and they're made with two by ten wood, but 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.640 inside I put high power, really good quality ten inch wolfers. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.640 He played us some of his original music which he 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.120 has uploaded to band camp. You can check it out 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.360 yourself at John Scott Shephard dot bandcamp dot com. I 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.880 also put the link in the episode description, Oh my 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:55.600 husband's home high honey sound band, I think in here 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.760 where we're here nerding out over? 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.640 Oh, it's been so much fun, the whole thing. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:10.200 Unfortunately, for financial reasons, John eventually had to dismantle his operation, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.760 putting most of his old equipment in storage. But five 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.480 years later, in nineteen seventy seven, someone else received the 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.720 same puzzling frequencies that John did. The Ohio State University 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.600 Radio Observatory, also known as Big EAR, received a strange 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.840 signal of their own. One day, an astronomer was reviewing 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.920 the computer printouts when they noticed a loud two minute 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.280 transmission that was extremely powerful, So powerful that he circled 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.360 the readout in red pen and wrote wow. And it's 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.520 now known as the Wow signal. Nice. Ohio State University 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.080 ultimately determined the signal was not from a satellite, any 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.240 military craft, commercial aircraft, or broadcast stations, just a weird, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:14:04.480 loud signal from deep space that remains unexplained to this day. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.920 The UFO topic has clearly attracted a wide array of 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.040 interesting people over the years because it sits right on 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.160 the friends of real world science and flat out conspiracy theory. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.240 The range of eclectic characters you get with this subject 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.040 is absolutely fascinating. After a meeting with John Shephard, I 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.160 felt compelled to go down this road a little further 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.320 and explore the lives of other interesting people in this realm. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.240 Just how weird does it get? 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:37.760 You? 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.240 Guys? Tell me if he bites me? Okay? 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:40.920 Oh? 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:41.280 Why? 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.200 That is a big ass alligator and that is not 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:49.880 a sound effect. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.320 People think alligators are dumb, but they're actually one of 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:53.440 the smartest animals. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.920 It's actually the same alligator from the Adam Sandler movie 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.640 Happy Gilmour, the one that bit Chubb's handoff. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.040 I peach ups. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.080 You could actually come in here and pet him and 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:04.800 he wouldn't mind. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.280 But he remembers the days when I used to catch 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:08.920 him to move. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.200 Him around or at a cold. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.960 I am a con him in eight years. But he 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:14.720 holds a drout. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.840 You remember Scota go boy? 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.000 Yeah you. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:21.080 Oh boy? 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:22.200 Yeah, as you are. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.360 If you were to drop me here randomly with no context, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.440 I would never in a million years think that I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.760 was here to talk about UFOs. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.520 We are in the mystic San Luis Valley. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.640 This is Jay Young, the one who tricked me into 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.200 getting way too close to that alligator. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.800 The San Luis Valley is eight thousand square miles, which 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.120 is roughly the size of Massachusetts. This place is known 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.040 as Colorado Gator's Reptile Park. It was begun in nineteen 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.840 seventy seven as a tilapia farm by my parents are 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.480 Winning then Young. What makes it possible is access to 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.320 geothermal water. We got some alligators to be garbage disposals 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.720 for the fish in nineteen eighty seven. They got big. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.600 People wanted to see them. So now we're a tourist 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.760 attraction that does animal education. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.000 And animal rescue. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.640 Surrounded by fourteen thousand foot peaks, it is the largest 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.760 alpine valley in the world, and it is now known 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.160 as the Mystic Sandlos Valley because it's a mystic place. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.600 I'm here in southern Colorado because for literally thousands of 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.280 years there have been more reports of unidentified flying objects 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.360 than almost any other place in the country. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.520 This valley has had so many sidings, there's been books 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.320 written about it, and I've had half a dozen unexplained sidings, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.120 or more myself. All the experiences I've had have been different. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.040 Strange things happen and I can't explain them. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.680 For whatever reason, this seems to be a UFO hotspot. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.840 Maybe it's the good weed out here, or maybe the 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.200 sky's just more open and you can actually see th. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.440 I was a big skeptic. I didn't believe much. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.960 It was always easily explained. Until I was about twenty 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.600 five years old, there was no earthly explanation for what 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.520 we saw. Cliff and I were driving to Alamosa from 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.160 the Alligator Farm off to the west, over the San 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:25.360 Juan Mountains. There we saw these strange silver objects, giant 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:30.120 silver needles, floating in the sky, parallel to each other, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.120 but not perpendicular to the earth. You see right there, 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.600 see those mountains. That peak is over seven thousand feet 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:42.040 taller than where we are. These silver objects were almost 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:43.920 as tall as the mountains, so they were about five 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.520 thousand feet tall, and as the sun went down, they 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.080 descended down, and had they been made out of metal, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.000 they would have hit the mountain and stopped and fallen 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:57.160 over or something like that. They just disappeared into the mountain. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.920 It was like some weird refraction of light to another 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:02.760 dimension or something. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:03.320 I don't know. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.320 I never even heard of anything like that before. After that, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.400 I was more open to believing things and not being 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:11.440 as much of a skeptic. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:13.200 It opened up the. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.000 Possibility that there's a lot out there that we don't understand. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.600 You just have to take it with a grain of salt. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.600 You weren't there, you didn't experience it. You might not 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.800 believe me because you didn't see what I saw. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.600 I know what I saw. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.520 The older you get, the more you realize that you 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:38.119 didn't know anything, and now you know less than nothing. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.159 We know more about the surface of the Moon than 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.720 we do the bottom of the ocean. We're finding new 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:47.159 species of animals all the time. We know so little 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.919 about our own planet. It's just inconceivable to think that 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.520 we know what's out there beyond our planet. It's just 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.879 ludicrous to think that we're the only intelligence species in 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:06.800 the universe. Did we even consider ourselves intelligent? I try 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.680 to keep an open mind. I'm a skeptic, I guess 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.240 even now, but I know there's things I've seen that 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:21.920 are not explainable through any conventional means. Most sightings are explainable, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:28.160 but not all of them are. This valley has had 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.600 so many sightings Judy built a UFO watchtower here. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.840 The real reason I came all the way out to 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.960 the Mystic Valley of Colorado is to visit their world 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:53.840 famous UFO watchtower. This is the UFO Watchtower, about a 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.440 five minutes drive down the street. Is a metal, two 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.720 story structure made simply for viewing the sky. The watchtower 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.399 has a complete three sixty view of the valley. If 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.920 you followed my other podcasts, you might remember I came 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.760 here for a brief moment in twenty nineteen during Up 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.360 and Vanas season two, Crystal Anne Risinger went missing from 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.160 the small town of Crestone, about fifteen minutes from here. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.120 We've had sightings during the day as well as at night. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.320 Everybody thinks it has to be at night, and it doesn't. 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.400 If you look up, you're going to see something bizarre. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:34.000 It's just that simple. My name is Judy mess Line. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.720 I moved to the valley to raise cattle and horses, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.000 but from the time we had moved here, all we 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.640 heard were UFO stories from the locals. They've had documented 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:51.359 sightings in this valley since the fifteen hundreds. One of 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.000 the farmers was in one day and he said, you 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.880 know what, Judy, you need to put up that UFO watchtower. 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.000 You've giggled about it. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:05.040 You'd have fun. Well, I've had twenty two years worth 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:05.679 of fun. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.600 I mean it is fun. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.240 The size of the sky compared to the watchtower in 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:17.120 this valley, surrounded by fourteen thousand foot mountains, really puts 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.600 some perspective how small we are. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.240 The best idea I had in this world was putting 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.600 this up because I've gotten to meet so many neat people, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.080 and most of the folks who come in here are 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:32.000 open minded. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.439 Can you recall your first UFO sighting? 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.040 Yes, it was between here and the mountains in part 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.800 way down I called a cigar shaped. It was narrow 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.320 and really long, and it went zip like that. That 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.199 was eleven o'clock at night. We had over a dozen 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.479 people here. Everybody saw it. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:56.320 What was it? 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.720 That's what we keep saying, What the heck was it? 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:05.080 I myself have seen thirty There's some people you know 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:06.800 that are really skeptical. 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:08.600 I don't blame them. 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.080 I mean, unless you've seen something yourself, it's hard to 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:18.840 believe that something is going on. There's people who think. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.080 That we are it. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:24.280 Well, if we are, that's a sad state of affairs. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.680 We can't just be it. There has to be life 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.480 someplace else. It says in the Bible that God made 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:36.520 the heavens and the earth. Well, if he made us, 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:42.159 he definitely made them. After having this open for a 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:46.880 month and hardly anybody came, and you know, I'd done 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:51.560 over two hundred and fifty radio interviews before opening, expecting 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.080 the cars to be lined up to come in here, 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:58.160 well they weren't. So I got out front here one 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.879 day and I just yelled, all all right, you guys, 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:05.400 this was your big idea. I need help. I need 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:10.639 at least one hundred dollars a day. From that day forward, 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:17.359 I did one hundred a day. When the Psyche started coming, 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.880 they said that we needed to put in the garden 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.440 for a place for people to go sit, relax and meditate. 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:30.760 Then folks started heading to it, and now we've got 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.080 thousands of things out there. 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.600 So what kinds of things do people lead in this garden? 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:38.480 Whatever is in their car? 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:43.160 I can't believe what people pull out of their cars, 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.840 Like that stove door from you see it there it's 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:50.200 an antique off of. 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.600 A wood burning stove. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.840 You know, there's stories with some of this stuff. Some 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.560 young people who came in and said, our mother totally 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.679 believed in UFOs and aliens. She was killed in a 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:09.520 motorcycle accident. We're leaving a motorcycle helmet in the garden. 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.280 I've got another guy. He was in yesterday or day before, anyway, 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:19.200 he left the ashes from his dog. Lots of folks 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:23.320 come and leave ashes from their loved ones. There's been 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.919 so many people who have benefited from this garden, and 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:32.120 I have people who come just to ask for help here. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:36.119