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Speaker 2: Precognition go deeper into the characteristics of it. But also
Speaker 2: something that people ask me a lot is what about
Speaker 2: lucid dreaming or precognition in dreams? What do you have
Speaker 2: with just precognition in general?
Speaker 3: I guess, well, the precognition itself. Basically, what I'm suggesting
Speaker 3: is that it's a link with one's brain in the future.
Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with consciousness. The precognition is between
Speaker 3: one's brain and the future and one's brain in the present,
Speaker 3: and the precognition occurs when the brains are in similar states,
Speaker 3: as they're said to correlate with each other. Let me
Speaker 3: just say a word about perception. But it is very
Speaker 3: important to understand the way we proceed thing is the
Speaker 3: way we're in things. Everything in the all our perceptions
Speaker 3: are thoughts, are all represented by what known as neuronal
Speaker 3: spatial temporal patterns of neural neuronal activation. And when you
Speaker 3: look at something, you activate a specific pattern in the brain.
Speaker 3: When you remember something, you activate the same pattern. When
Speaker 3: you have a precognition about something, you activate the same pattern.
Speaker 3: So give a simple a simple example of how Carol
Speaker 3: precognizes an earthquake that's going to occur tomorrow. The way
Speaker 3: it makes it easier to understand. Remember that the precognition
Speaker 3: refers to Carol's experience of the events when she watches
Speaker 3: new newscast about it tomorrow evening. For example, whilst watching newscast,
Speaker 3: Carol activates a pattern in her brain which corresponds to
Speaker 3: her experience of the earthquake, and the continuing activation of
Speaker 3: the pattern is what gives rise to Carol's conscious experience
Speaker 3: of watching the earthquake. So if she wants to recognize
Speaker 3: the event today, she has to activate a similar pattern
Speaker 3: tomorrow's pattern. She might sometime during the day spontaneously activate
Speaker 3: such a pattern, or she might, for example, knock the
Speaker 3: leg of the dining table. Notice the cutlery shaking, and
Speaker 3: in the brain this is the networks corresponding to the
Speaker 3: cutler shaking are associated with networks corresponding to the earthquake.
Speaker 3: Either way, the network's corresponded it to the earthquake are
Speaker 3: activated a few times. This isn't sufficient for Carol to
Speaker 3: become consciously aware of an earthquake, But since the patterns
Speaker 3: in the presence and the future are similar. The patterns
Speaker 3: resonate across time. According to Bohm's theory, there is a
Speaker 3: tendency for the activation to include it for there to
Speaker 3: be an increase in the degree of activation. If the
Speaker 3: degree of activation of the present pattern reaches the threshold
Speaker 3: for conscious awareness, Carol suddenly finds herself thinking about the
Speaker 3: idea of the earthquake. She has received in the presence
Speaker 3: a memory of what you'll experience in the future. So
Speaker 3: if it happens during the day, she might feel a
Speaker 3: hunch that there's going to be an earthquake, But if
Speaker 3: it happens at night, the premonition might find its way
Speaker 3: into one of her dreams. Okay, I think that gives
Speaker 3: a submary of the process. Let's say it can be
Speaker 3: applied to so many other things, and this enables us
Speaker 3: to know why precognition is so elusive. One particularly interesting
Speaker 3: aspect is that, since you're activating patterns in the future,
Speaker 3: when you watch the events, it needs to be an
Speaker 3: emotional events because that produces lots and lots of activations
Speaker 3: of the pattern, and it produces a strong resonating field.
Speaker 3: So in the present, if you just happen to think
Speaker 3: briefly about the possibility of such an event. The effect
Speaker 3: of the future activations is going to produce an influence,
Speaker 3: and the present activation will increase and you become consciously aware.
Speaker 3: But this can create problems. But I think given an example,
Speaker 3: I tend to have hypochondria, and a couple of days
Speaker 3: before I go to the doctor, I start thinking that
Speaker 3: I have some terrible disease. In fact, at the time
Speaker 3: approaches I feel quite certain that I'm going to be
Speaker 3: told by the doctor that I have a terrible disease.
Speaker 3: So I go to see the doctor and he tells
Speaker 3: me there's nothing really wrong with me. So was that
Speaker 3: earlier experience of precognition. No, it wasn't the precognition of
Speaker 3: the doctor telling me I might have a terrible disease,
Speaker 3: But it was a precognition referring to my future thoughts
Speaker 3: over the the next two days, in which I was
Speaker 3: thinking I might have a disease, and that was coming
Speaker 3: over in the presence, and so in the presence I
Speaker 3: was thinking and it was going it was building up,
Speaker 3: and it would be like a sort of vicious circle.
Speaker 3: And this explains why hypochondria affects people in this way.
Speaker 3: And another very important that is why is this when
Speaker 3: the elections there aren't people who can An election is
Speaker 3: such a simple events, it's such an emotional event. But
Speaker 3: why is it that there aren't hundreds of people forecasting
Speaker 3: who's going to win the election? And the answer is this,
Speaker 3: weeks or days before the election, a person is thinking
Speaker 3: about if one candidate is going to win, then is
Speaker 3: thinking about if the other candidates is going to win,
Speaker 3: independently as to which candidates wins. So now in the
Speaker 3: presence is receiving impressions from all these thoughts in his
Speaker 3: future over the next week, cut to the day of
Speaker 3: the election, sometimes thinking the candidates will win, sometimes thinking
Speaker 3: will will lose. So he doesn't get any selectivity. You
Speaker 3: can't just e one or the other. And when the
Speaker 3: candidate actually wins or loses, it's too late. He's already
Speaker 3: had a precognition recognition about his early efforts.
Speaker 2: Well, I know some people that will take that guess,
Speaker 2: and they have and they're either going to be right
Speaker 2: or wrong in it. But sometimes they just politically don't
Speaker 2: want to say, especially if you're over here. Now it's
Speaker 2: the way it is over here, let me let me
Speaker 2: ask you this. Okay, so telepathy is really interesting to me,
Speaker 2: and you let me hear your thoughts on on telepathy,
Speaker 2: because I think you look at this a little differently
Speaker 2: than I do. So let me let me hear your
Speaker 2: thoughts on what you've learned with telepathy.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I've definitely seen telepathy is weaker than pre
Speaker 3: condition because different brains are involved and the patterns are less.
Speaker 3: They like it to match. I think, well to understanding
Speaker 3: this better, let's look at the way the neuronal networks
Speaker 3: are connected to form the pattern in the brain. Take
Speaker 3: an example, first of recognition, Tom experiences an emotional event tomorrow,
Speaker 3: and whilst he's watching the events, he associates in his
Speaker 3: brain information about the events and information about his previous
Speaker 3: experiences with the events. So now today he activites activates
Speaker 3: a pattern corresponding to a similar event, in which networks
Speaker 3: corresponding to the events are again associated with networks corresponding
Speaker 3: to his previous experiences with the events. The future and
Speaker 3: present patterns are similar. Resonance occurs and he recognizes to
Speaker 3: Modrow's event. So now take a case of telepathy. They're
Speaker 3: suppose that Tom is in New York and Carol is
Speaker 3: in London. Again, Tom experiences and emotional events, and he
Speaker 3: associates information about the events with information about his previous
Speaker 3: experiences of the event. Meanwhile, Carol is in London. She
Speaker 3: activates the pattern corresponding to a similar event, but she
Speaker 3: associates the information about the events with information about her
Speaker 3: previous experiences of that event. And these experiences are probably
Speaker 3: quite different from those of Tom. The patterns are different,
Speaker 3: and the resonance will be much weaker because you don't
Speaker 3: get a close matching between Tom's patterns and Carol's pattern
Speaker 3: so the telepathy is very much weaker. And I suggest
Speaker 3: that many Bay cases are a sensible telepathy, not due
Speaker 3: to telepathy at all, but due to the pacipients recognizing
Speaker 3: her own future knowledge of the event because someone has
Speaker 3: to tell her otherwise she wouldn't have suspected been a
Speaker 3: telepathic contact anyway, So it does occur sometimes. That's a
Speaker 3: case that's an illustration of the psychic telling me that
Speaker 3: they flying over water, and that was definitely a telepathy.
Speaker 3: And I think in the case of Nostradama's predictions, where
Speaker 3: he's predicting the activities of thousands of people, you might
Speaker 3: get an amplification effect which makes it easier to detect
Speaker 3: what's going on. Nostradamers had three predictions about the events
Speaker 3: and during the life of Hitler, which was six hundred
Speaker 3: years later than his life, and yet he was able
Speaker 3: to pick up He picks up the name Hitler and
Speaker 3: something about his activities. It might have been a future
Speaker 3: tele telepathic contact.
Speaker 2: So describe telepathy for us.
Speaker 3: Well by giving the example I've tried to describe. Describe you.
Speaker 3: A telepathy occurs when you think about a certain thing
Speaker 3: and you activate the corresponding pattern in your brain, and
Speaker 3: I try to activate a similar pattern. Now, one way
Speaker 3: to do it is if I visualize myself as you.
Speaker 3: So you activate a pattern and you associate it in
Speaker 3: your brain with an image of yourself. And if I
Speaker 3: think of you and associate the pattern with a similar event,
Speaker 3: then the two patterns are similar and resonance can occur.
Speaker 3: So it is part simple, But as I say, I
Speaker 3: believe it's more more difficult. What what is interesting? I
Speaker 3: think it's easier to influence people using telepathy.
Speaker 2: So I see I see telepathy differently. I see telepathy.
Speaker 2: And this is how I've always known it to be
Speaker 2: what the word means, and uh, it is communication between
Speaker 2: two people or maybe even more. But telepathy is communicating
Speaker 2: back and forth. So you're you're not seeing, You're not
Speaker 2: talking about telepathy that way, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that the sensitivity, the connection between my brain now,
Speaker 3: my brain now and my brain tomorrow are much more
Speaker 3: similar to each other. It's easier to get a resonance
Speaker 3: between between the zoo Epathy depends on a different brain,
Speaker 3: a brain in which you associate events with your previous
Speaker 3: experiences with the events, and these associations are what are
Speaker 3: going to be different for different people. So I suggest
Speaker 3: it's possible, but difficulty.
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