1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Precognition go deeper into the characteristics of it. But also 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: something that people ask me a lot is what about 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: lucid dreaming or precognition in dreams? What do you have 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: with just precognition in general? 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: I guess, well, the precognition itself. Basically, what I'm suggesting 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: is that it's a link with one's brain in the future. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with consciousness. The precognition is between 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: one's brain and the future and one's brain in the present, 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: and the precognition occurs when the brains are in similar states, 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: as they're said to correlate with each other. Let me 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: just say a word about perception. But it is very 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: important to understand the way we proceed thing is the 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: way we're in things. Everything in the all our perceptions 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: are thoughts, are all represented by what known as neuronal 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: spatial temporal patterns of neural neuronal activation. And when you 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 3: look at something, you activate a specific pattern in the brain. 18 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: When you remember something, you activate the same pattern. When 19 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: you have a precognition about something, you activate the same pattern. 20 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: So give a simple a simple example of how Carol 21 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: precognizes an earthquake that's going to occur tomorrow. The way 22 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: it makes it easier to understand. Remember that the precognition 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: refers to Carol's experience of the events when she watches 24 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: new newscast about it tomorrow evening. For example, whilst watching newscast, 25 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: Carol activates a pattern in her brain which corresponds to 26 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: her experience of the earthquake, and the continuing activation of 27 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: the pattern is what gives rise to Carol's conscious experience 28 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: of watching the earthquake. So if she wants to recognize 29 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: the event today, she has to activate a similar pattern 30 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: tomorrow's pattern. She might sometime during the day spontaneously activate 31 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: such a pattern, or she might, for example, knock the 32 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: leg of the dining table. Notice the cutlery shaking, and 33 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: in the brain this is the networks corresponding to the 34 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: cutler shaking are associated with networks corresponding to the earthquake. 35 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: Either way, the network's corresponded it to the earthquake are 36 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: activated a few times. This isn't sufficient for Carol to 37 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: become consciously aware of an earthquake, But since the patterns 38 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: in the presence and the future are similar. The patterns 39 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: resonate across time. According to Bohm's theory, there is a 40 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: tendency for the activation to include it for there to 41 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: be an increase in the degree of activation. If the 42 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: degree of activation of the present pattern reaches the threshold 43 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: for conscious awareness, Carol suddenly finds herself thinking about the 44 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: idea of the earthquake. She has received in the presence 45 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: a memory of what you'll experience in the future. So 46 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: if it happens during the day, she might feel a 47 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: hunch that there's going to be an earthquake, But if 48 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: it happens at night, the premonition might find its way 49 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: into one of her dreams. Okay, I think that gives 50 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: a submary of the process. Let's say it can be 51 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: applied to so many other things, and this enables us 52 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: to know why precognition is so elusive. One particularly interesting 53 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: aspect is that, since you're activating patterns in the future, 54 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: when you watch the events, it needs to be an 55 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: emotional events because that produces lots and lots of activations 56 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: of the pattern, and it produces a strong resonating field. 57 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: So in the present, if you just happen to think 58 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: briefly about the possibility of such an event. The effect 59 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: of the future activations is going to produce an influence, 60 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: and the present activation will increase and you become consciously aware. 61 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: But this can create problems. But I think given an example, 62 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: I tend to have hypochondria, and a couple of days 63 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: before I go to the doctor, I start thinking that 64 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: I have some terrible disease. In fact, at the time 65 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: approaches I feel quite certain that I'm going to be 66 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: told by the doctor that I have a terrible disease. 67 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: So I go to see the doctor and he tells 68 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: me there's nothing really wrong with me. So was that 69 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: earlier experience of precognition. No, it wasn't the precognition of 70 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: the doctor telling me I might have a terrible disease, 71 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: But it was a precognition referring to my future thoughts 72 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: over the the next two days, in which I was 73 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: thinking I might have a disease, and that was coming 74 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: over in the presence, and so in the presence I 75 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: was thinking and it was going it was building up, 76 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: and it would be like a sort of vicious circle. 77 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: And this explains why hypochondria affects people in this way. 78 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: And another very important that is why is this when 79 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: the elections there aren't people who can An election is 80 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: such a simple events, it's such an emotional event. But 81 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: why is it that there aren't hundreds of people forecasting 82 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: who's going to win the election? And the answer is this, 83 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: weeks or days before the election, a person is thinking 84 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: about if one candidate is going to win, then is 85 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: thinking about if the other candidates is going to win, 86 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: independently as to which candidates wins. So now in the 87 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: presence is receiving impressions from all these thoughts in his 88 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: future over the next week, cut to the day of 89 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: the election, sometimes thinking the candidates will win, sometimes thinking 90 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: will will lose. So he doesn't get any selectivity. You 91 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: can't just e one or the other. And when the 92 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: candidate actually wins or loses, it's too late. He's already 93 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: had a precognition recognition about his early efforts. 94 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, I know some people that will take that guess, 95 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: and they have and they're either going to be right 96 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: or wrong in it. But sometimes they just politically don't 97 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: want to say, especially if you're over here. Now it's 98 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: the way it is over here, let me let me 99 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: ask you this. Okay, so telepathy is really interesting to me, 100 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: and you let me hear your thoughts on on telepathy, 101 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: because I think you look at this a little differently 102 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: than I do. So let me let me hear your 103 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: thoughts on what you've learned with telepathy. 104 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: Yes, well, I've definitely seen telepathy is weaker than pre 105 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: condition because different brains are involved and the patterns are less. 106 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: They like it to match. I think, well to understanding 107 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: this better, let's look at the way the neuronal networks 108 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: are connected to form the pattern in the brain. Take 109 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: an example, first of recognition, Tom experiences an emotional event tomorrow, 110 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: and whilst he's watching the events, he associates in his 111 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: brain information about the events and information about his previous 112 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: experiences with the events. So now today he activites activates 113 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: a pattern corresponding to a similar event, in which networks 114 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: corresponding to the events are again associated with networks corresponding 115 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: to his previous experiences with the events. The future and 116 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: present patterns are similar. Resonance occurs and he recognizes to 117 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: Modrow's event. So now take a case of telepathy. They're 118 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: suppose that Tom is in New York and Carol is 119 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: in London. Again, Tom experiences and emotional events, and he 120 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: associates information about the events with information about his previous 121 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: experiences of the event. Meanwhile, Carol is in London. She 122 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: activates the pattern corresponding to a similar event, but she 123 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: associates the information about the events with information about her 124 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: previous experiences of that event. And these experiences are probably 125 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: quite different from those of Tom. The patterns are different, 126 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: and the resonance will be much weaker because you don't 127 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: get a close matching between Tom's patterns and Carol's pattern 128 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: so the telepathy is very much weaker. And I suggest 129 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: that many Bay cases are a sensible telepathy, not due 130 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: to telepathy at all, but due to the pacipients recognizing 131 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: her own future knowledge of the event because someone has 132 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: to tell her otherwise she wouldn't have suspected been a 133 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 3: telepathic contact anyway, So it does occur sometimes. That's a 134 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: case that's an illustration of the psychic telling me that 135 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: they flying over water, and that was definitely a telepathy. 136 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: And I think in the case of Nostradama's predictions, where 137 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: he's predicting the activities of thousands of people, you might 138 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: get an amplification effect which makes it easier to detect 139 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: what's going on. Nostradamers had three predictions about the events 140 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 3: and during the life of Hitler, which was six hundred 141 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: years later than his life, and yet he was able 142 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: to pick up He picks up the name Hitler and 143 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: something about his activities. It might have been a future 144 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: tele telepathic contact. 145 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: So describe telepathy for us. 146 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: Well by giving the example I've tried to describe. Describe you. 147 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: A telepathy occurs when you think about a certain thing 148 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: and you activate the corresponding pattern in your brain, and 149 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: I try to activate a similar pattern. Now, one way 150 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: to do it is if I visualize myself as you. 151 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: So you activate a pattern and you associate it in 152 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: your brain with an image of yourself. And if I 153 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: think of you and associate the pattern with a similar event, 154 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: then the two patterns are similar and resonance can occur. 155 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: So it is part simple, But as I say, I 156 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: believe it's more more difficult. What what is interesting? I 157 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,359 Speaker 3: think it's easier to influence people using telepathy. 158 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: So I see I see telepathy differently. I see telepathy. 159 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: And this is how I've always known it to be 160 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: what the word means, and uh, it is communication between 161 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: two people or maybe even more. But telepathy is communicating 162 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: back and forth. So you're you're not seeing, You're not 163 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: talking about telepathy that way, you know. 164 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying that the sensitivity, the connection between my brain now, 165 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: my brain now and my brain tomorrow are much more 166 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: similar to each other. It's easier to get a resonance 167 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: between between the zoo Epathy depends on a different brain, 168 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: a brain in which you associate events with your previous 169 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: experiences with the events, and these associations are what are 170 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: going to be different for different people. So I suggest 171 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: it's possible, but difficulty. 172 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 173 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to cooastam dot 174 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: com for more