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Speaker 2: Well, today the US Department of Justice released a formal

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Speaker 5: First of all, what I would have done is oversee

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Speaker 5: That was my staff was supposed to do that, and

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Speaker 8: Whether a special council should have been appointed in this

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Speaker 5: I think a special council should have been appointed. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, look, there is so much in that press

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Speaker 2: That when you're disclosing sources and methods, it means you

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Speaker 2: Let me finish reading. FBI agents recover these materials from

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Speaker 2: For these reasons, we decline prosecution of mister Biden. Now,

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Speaker 1: Right, I have like fifteen different questions and I want

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Speaker 2: Listen, this is a base if someone's not competent to

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Speaker 2: What they said is he's so old and senile that

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Speaker 3: This concerned me even more.

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Speaker 2: that from the Biden Department of Justice, that will be

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Speaker 2: quoted over and over again, that he could not remember

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Speaker 2: when he was vice president. That is an enormous problem,

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Speaker 2: and so his lawyers are desperately trying to engage in

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Speaker 2: damage control, saying, please don't say to the American people

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Speaker 2: what is obvious for anyone who's watching to see.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the politics now of this, because you

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Speaker 1: and I witnessed it for the first time in history.

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Speaker 1: We've played it for everybody listening. The White House Press

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Speaker 1: Corps turning on him, this is something he's never experienced.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I want to play for you just an

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Speaker 1: example of how quick CNN turned on him. You would

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Speaker 1: have thought they were talking about Donald Trump, except they

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Speaker 1: were talking about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen to this from CNN.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately, what Robert Hurst says in this report is essentially

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Speaker 9: the technical elements of a crime. It appears Robert Hurst saying,

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Speaker 9: we're met. But what he ends up doing is looking

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Speaker 9: at the soft factors. And you're allowed to do that.

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Speaker 9: You have to do that as a prosecutor. And he

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Speaker 9: takes into consideration things like what he says, and maybe

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Speaker 9: this is overstated, maybe not only that to the political folks,

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Speaker 9: but he says, essentially, Joe Biden would have created a

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Speaker 9: sympathetic picture in front of a jury. He had memory issues,

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Speaker 9: he had age issues, and that goes into did he

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Speaker 9: was he able to form the mental intent here.

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Speaker 1: That's CNN, and they weren't done there. They also then

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Speaker 1: went on to say that Joe Biden was an essence

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Speaker 1: a liar at his press conference.

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Speaker 3: Here's this.

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Speaker 9: That is what blew my mind about Joe Biden's statement sep.

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Speaker 9: Two major things he just outright contradicts or is contradicted by. However,

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Speaker 9: you look at this this report, there are two things

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Speaker 9: he said that are completely the opposite of what Robert

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Speaker 9: Hurr found. And who do you believe is up to?

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Speaker 9: I guess the individual consumer. First, Joe Biden says, I

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Speaker 9: did not act wilfully. Wilfully just means voluntarily intentionally. Well,

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Speaker 9: the second sentence of this whole summary says President Biden

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Speaker 9: willfully retained and disclosed classified materials. The facts in here

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Speaker 9: show it was wilful. He knew, he talked about it.

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Speaker 9: And the second thing he says is I did not

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Speaker 9: disclose classified documents to my ghostwriter.

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Speaker 3: Page three says that he did that.

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Speaker 9: He says, mister Biden shared information, including some classified information

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Speaker 9: from those notebooks.

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Speaker 1: Senator I watched that on CNN and I said, holy crap,

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Speaker 1: they're turning on him. And this is the end of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's presidency as we know it. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: offload him in real time because of this report, saying

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Speaker 1: here it is, let's take him out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is a massive problem. And it's not a

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Speaker 2: problem that goes away in a day or two, or

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Speaker 2: a week or a month. This is a problem that

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Speaker 2: continues every day Joe Biden remains in the presidency. I'll

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Speaker 2: also point out something else, which is this report implicitly

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Speaker 2: exonerates Donald Trump, which is an enormous problem for Biden

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Speaker 2: as well, because look, one of their big marque cases

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Speaker 2: against Trump. Now they're prosecuting him for damn near everything,

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Speaker 2: including late library books. But one of their marquee cases

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Speaker 2: is that Trump possessed classified documents in mar Lago. And

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Speaker 2: let me read again from the report, this is what

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Speaker 2: they say about Biden. Quote. Contemporary evidence suggests that when

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Speaker 2: mister Biden left office in twenty seventeen, he believed he

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Speaker 2: was allowed to keep the notebooks in his home. In

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Speaker 2: a recorded conversation with his ghostwriter in April twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: mister Biden explained that, despite his staff views to the contrary,

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Speaker 2: he did not think he was required to turn in

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Speaker 2: his note cards to the National Archives, where they were

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Speaker 2: stored at a skiff, and he had not wanted to

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Speaker 2: do so. Ryle, he would argue plausibly that he thought

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Speaker 2: the same thing about his notebooks. If this is what

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Speaker 2: mister Biden thought, we believe he was mistaken about what

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Speaker 2: the law permits. But this view finds some support in

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Speaker 2: historical practice. The clearest example is President Reagan, who left

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Speaker 2: the White House in nineteen eighty nine with eight years

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Speaker 2: worth of handwritten diaries, which he appears to have kept

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Speaker 2: in his California home, even though they contained top secret information.

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Speaker 2: During criminal litigation involving a former Reagan administration official in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine and ninety, the Department of Justice stated

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Speaker 2: in public court filings that the quote currently classified diaries

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Speaker 2: were mister Reagan's quote, personal records. Yet we know of

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Speaker 2: no steps that Apartment or other agencies took to investigate

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Speaker 2: mister Reagan for handing, mishandling classified information, or to retrieve

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Speaker 2: or secure his diaries. Most jurors would likely find evidence

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Speaker 2: of this precedent and mister Biden's claimed reliance on it,

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Speaker 2: which we expect would be admitted at trial to be

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Speaker 2: compelling evidence that mister Biden did not act wilfully as

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Speaker 2: with the marked classified documents. Because the evidence is not

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Speaker 2: sufficient to convict mister Biden for wilfully retaining the notebooks,

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Speaker 2: we decline prosecution. Now that entire passage, you could write

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Speaker 2: word for word and simply replace the word Biden with

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Speaker 2: Trump and it would be a major defense for Trump.

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Speaker 2: And this incoherence, the Department of Justice is going to

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Speaker 2: have a nightmare because I promise you Trump's defense lawyers

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Speaker 2: are going to quote that back at them and say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, the Department of Justice was right, and

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Speaker 2: if they were right about Biden. By the way, on

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Speaker 2: this podcast, we walk through how the historical precedent was

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Speaker 2: president after president president had kept documents, including President Reagan,

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Speaker 2: including President Obama, including President Clinton. We walked through the history.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Department of Justice just concluded as their

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Speaker 2: reason not to prosecute Biden. And the obvious screaming question is, well,

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Speaker 2: then why do you go after the opposing party other

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Speaker 2: than because you are politically trying to stop the voters

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Speaker 2: from voting for the other guy.

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Speaker 1: You go back to politics of this for a second,

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Speaker 1: and I can only imagine how stressed out White House

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Speaker 1: staff is tonight. I'm sure you agree with me. It's

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Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning right now as you are,

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Speaker 1: they're all awake. Nobody is a stall awake. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they're probably at the White House still. They lost Democrats today,

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Speaker 1: and they lost the media today, and now it's got

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Speaker 1: to feel like you're either inside the inner circle of

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Speaker 1: Team Biden to prop him up and protect him, and

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Speaker 1: now the Democrats seem to be circling the wagon.

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Speaker 3: In your.

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Speaker 1: Is this the beginning of the end of the Biden presidency?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he actually makes it to election day?

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Speaker 1: Because he's gonna dig in That was clear from the

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Speaker 1: press conference tonight. But it looks like and this could change.

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Speaker 1: But as of one am right now, it looks like

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Speaker 1: Democrats are saying it's official, we are not going to

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Speaker 1: support Joe Biden in this president to run any longer.

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Speaker 3: We got to figure out how to offload him.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think the odds remain very low that he

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Speaker 2: steps down before the end of his term. I think

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Speaker 2: as long as he is able to stand vertically and

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Speaker 2: not fall over, he is going to finish out this year.

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Speaker 2: That being said, as I said at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: this pod, I think the odds that the Democrats push

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Speaker 2: him aside and replace it with Michelle Obama about sixty

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Speaker 2: five to thirty five. Or put it in another way,

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Speaker 2: it's about two to one. Now more likely than not

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Speaker 2: that the Democrats decide this guy cannot be our nomine

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Speaker 2: in November.

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Speaker 1: One other question I do want to ask you, does

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Speaker 1: this change the way that Republicans investigate Joe Biden? Knowing

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Speaker 1: that the DOJ is now basically said, you can't charge

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Speaker 1: this guy with anything, or we're not going to charge

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Speaker 1: this guy with anything. If they wouldn't do it now,

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Speaker 1: why would they change that logic moving forward? How does

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Speaker 1: that change the way that James Comer and Jim Jordan

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Speaker 1: are doing their investigations And should it change the way

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Speaker 1: they're doing their investigations at all?

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't, and I don't think it will. And as

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Speaker 2: we've discussed at great length on this podcast, the evidence

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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's corruption of his deliberately selling favors from

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Speaker 2: the Vice President of the United States to foreign oligarchs,

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Speaker 2: to Russian oligarch's, Ukrainian oligarchs, Chinese communists for millions and

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars. That evidence is very significant, and it

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Speaker 2: is repeated evidence not only of doing so, but doing

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Speaker 2: so willfully, doing so deliberately, and then agree restively covering

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Speaker 2: it up and lying about it. And I think we

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Speaker 2: will see the House continue to lay out that evidence

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Speaker 2: and to lay it out at great length. And I

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Speaker 2: would point out Number one, an immediate step for that

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Speaker 2: potentially is impeaching Joe Biden. And the Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: doesn't get a vote on whether or not to impeach

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. But number two, whether or not whether or

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Speaker 2: not Biden gets prosecuted for bribery is ultimately not going

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Speaker 2: to be a question decided by this Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: The chances that Merrick Garland brings charges are zero points

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Speaker 2: zero zero percent. He is acting, and he has acted

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Speaker 2: his entire tenure like a political operative who works for

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Speaker 2: the DNC. So Merrick Garland's not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: And indeed, there is considerable evidence underscored by two IRS

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Speaker 2: whistleblowers who are career employees and Democrats, that Merrick Garland

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Speaker 2: actively lied to Congress under oath, committed felonies and obstruction

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Speaker 2: to justice. So with or without this report, This DOJ

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Speaker 2: was never going to prosecute Joe Biden. That being said,

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Speaker 2: if the House continues to lay out the evidence and

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Speaker 2: we have an Apartment of Justice that is not controlled

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Speaker 2: by Joe Biden, if there's a Trump Department of Justice,

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Speaker 2: and there is real evidence a bribery and corruption of

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and the extended Biden family,

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Speaker 2: I think the possibility of a prosecution is real and significant.

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Speaker 1: One other question, and this is something that I think

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Speaker 1: so many Americans want to know. When you see this

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Speaker 1: report that just came out and you see the cognitive

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Speaker 1: decline and what they're stating in this report there, you

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Speaker 1: got to ask this question, who is running this country

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Speaker 1: right now? Because if it is as bad as this

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Speaker 1: special prosecutor is saying, it is behind closed doors, and

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Speaker 1: we know how this media has propped him up and

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Speaker 1: protected him, and we know how the White House is

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Speaker 1: limited a schedule. He sleeps in the morning, he works

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Speaker 1: usually between I think they said what knew and four.

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Speaker 1: He's not doing big events. He's getting the name of

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Speaker 1: leaders wrong now and when there who's alive and who's

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Speaker 1: dead now on a regular basis, that's happened three times

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Speaker 1: in the last three days.

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Speaker 3: Who is running the country? Senator? And does that concern

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Speaker 3: you as well?

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Speaker 2: So I can tell you I get asked that question regularly.

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Speaker 2: I got asked that question tonight. Every week someone asks

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Speaker 2: me who's running the White House? Who's running the government.

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Speaker 2: The honest answer, and this is really scary, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I genuinely don't know. I have a theory. I think

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Speaker 2: it is Barack Obama, but I can't prove that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that to be a fact. It's just that

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Speaker 2: that there are various data points, including the fact that

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Speaker 2: Obama remained in DC, something no president in modern times

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Speaker 2: is done. He's regularly in d C. He's regularly holding court,

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Speaker 2: he's meeting with Democrats, he's meeting with members of the

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Speaker 2: administration at his house. And so I think it is

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Speaker 2: likely Obama, but I can't prove that. I just know

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Speaker 2: it's not Joe Biden. So it is some combination of

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Speaker 2: A Obama and other senior White House officials and people

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Speaker 2: like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and AOC. But the

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Speaker 2: candid answer is I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: especially if you're on Apple. As the algorithms have changed,

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Speaker 1: and it goes to a check mark and I'll see

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Speaker 1: it back here tomorrow