WEBVTT - Thursday Therapy: A Guiding Light 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.399 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.440 This week's Thursday Therapy, We've got Sonya Satra. She is 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.360 an actress turn mindset guru. She's got a new book 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.600 out called what If It Were Easy? Using movement and 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.880 mindset to create success in life, love and business. Let's 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:19.279 get her on. 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.239 Hey. Hey, I'm Jana Dana. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.880 Well, happy New Year, Thanks for coming on wind Down. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.639 You had a book that came out in October. It 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.040 was called what If It Were Easy? Using movement and 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.120 mindset to Create success in life, love and business. And 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.479 I first just want to go back because you're an actress. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.760 Yeah, how long did you do soaps? 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.960 For? Six seven years? 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:48.200 Six seven years? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:48.600 Yeah? 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.640 And then was that world? Because I've acted in the 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.960 wild since I was like nineteen. But it's one of 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.400 those things where sometimes the mental aspect of that world 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.400 can really drive you nuts. I'm curious, did that? 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.880 Is that what drove me out? Are you out? 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:08.840 Or are you just kind of this is always like 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.880 your passion too, It is kind of what kind of 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.960 went okay, this is the route that you know, but 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.600 it feels most authentic. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.360 Or yes, definitely, And I think the acting being is 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.880 being in an industry where you're rejected so much. Definitely, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.520 I got into mindset just to sort of sustain. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.200 That one thousand percent. I think that's definitely the thing, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.000 the mindset piece of it, because when I was talking 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.679 to my fiance earlier, I'm like, I don't know if 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.320 you know, you never know if you're going to book 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.320 a movie this year or you're going to book a role. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.840 It's like you just and then you're like, well, what 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.520 is my purpose? And then what am I doing? And 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.360 then and then how am I making money? And then 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.840 you just start to spiral, right, And that's where the 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.880 mind has to be more powerful than the chaos you're 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.920 creating around it. And so I'm curious, how how do 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.760 you do that to stay grounded? Because I think that's 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.760 my problems. I start to go with one problem and 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.400 then and by the end of that minute, I've got 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.520 thirty problems that are just blowing up around me. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.680 I think that's when you have to really step backwards 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.760 and really step out and become much more objective and 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.880 look at it from a different perspective, because you're starting 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.040 to go out from you, we are going down the 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.720 rabbit hole at that point, and we're creating a whole 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.800 lot of scenarios that may or may not be real, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:31.919 and each thought creates an anxious feeling or any other 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.919 number of probably negative feelings. And so I think it's 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.560 really more important to step back out and be like, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.200 all right, what's the current perspective? Like, is what's real 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.240 and what's not? And what am I in control of? 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.480 And what am I not? And what can I be 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.280 in control of? What sure? Because I think when you 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.280 start to shift into and what do I really want 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.079 and sort of to revisit And that's actually a lot 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.960 of the process that ended up in the book, a 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.239 lot of that restart kind of thing of getting connected 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.120 to that vision and reconnecting to what it does the 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.600 you have. What is it that you can do sort 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.480 of burning those stuff that's stopping you and then taking action? 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:22.240 Right what action pieces are more helpful or most helpful 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:22.560 for you? 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:28.119 I think it depends a little bit on what it 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.840 is that is the problem, because I think sometimes you 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.080 need to just like get out of your own way. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.360 Maybe you need some kind of self care. Maybe I 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.280 need to go for a run, or I need to 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.520 get a massage, or I need to just stop, And 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.280 other times I think it's more of productive action. You know, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:47.920 who do I need to reach out to? Who do 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.600 I know who might be able to help me with 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.720 a specific thing that I'm after, Or maybe it's I 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.160 need to go delve back into some sort of a 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.200 class that can make me at least feel creative and 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.320 I feel like I'm doing what it is that I 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.600 love or even what could I produce, you know, whether 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.760 it be a film or a movie I mean, or 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.280 some sort of I mean. Now you can do so 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.680 many more things because there's more accessible things for YouTube 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:22.039 and other mediums, or a play. I used to produce 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.480 plays or do plays whenever I was feeling like I 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:26.440 was going nowhere. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:31.920 FAST's that's an interesting piece to the almost the play 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.920 element of it, because I recently went in I had 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.680 a big audition and I was like, you know what, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.640 I want to do my best at this, obviously, and 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.400 I want to put my best foot forward. So I 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.600 went to an acting coach in town and I called 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.320 my fiance afterwards. He's like, how to go? And I 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:52.960 was like, you know what, it went great? And he's like, well, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.680 what was so different about it? I go because I 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.159 got to play, and normally we just were up here 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.320 and we just self tape from up here, and I 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.280 just I do what I normally do, and that's it, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.520 send the tape in. And he was like, why don't 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.000 we do it this way and that way? And I'm like, 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.800 oh my gosh, this is so much fun. I totally 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.839 forgot yeah, like I forgot to have fun with it 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.840 and I forgot to play. It's just usually all I 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.000 got to get those work done. I had to send 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.320 this tape in and I got to do this, and 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.240 then it's just was that my best work? Probably not, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:20.839 but I had to get it done before the baby 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.680 woke up or before I know, the kids got home 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.919 from school. So I just there was a piece of 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.240 that where I was like, I want to bring that 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.080 into this new year, is to go, Okay, yes, get 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.000 my work done, but also have fun with it and 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.120 play with it, and then I'll enjoy it a little 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.520 bit more instead of going, oh, I have to put 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.320 a stupid audition on tape or whatever. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.680 I think that is so true and I think that 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.560 the beginning of the self tape, well, that was a 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.880 huge transition for me because there is something to having 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:53.920 to be good on the fly, you know, but that 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:59.760 in person pressure was a better I think for me 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.000 anyway than it was the self tape for exactly what 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.960 you say, because it starts to feel like I got 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.359 to get this thing done. I just have to like 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.039 squeeze it in. I've got to get it out. I 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:13.480 got to fit it into my daily schedule. And I 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.640 think when it became more of a thing where you 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.479 were walking in and you were going to have a 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.039 conversation and you might actually get some feedback or direction, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.120 which again makes it feel a little more like play, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:29.039 I thought that was more pressure but more fun. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:30.000 Yeah. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.160 No, I agree with you also, like just on that 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.880 one piece too. I don't when it comes to the 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.920 acting side of things, I don't usually win because I'm 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.039 the best actress in the group. I win and because 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.640 i'm you know, I'm chatting with the producers and we're 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.080 laughing and I'd be fun to have on set and 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.160 you know, so it's like I always want in the room. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:50.919 I don't win in self tapes because it's like you 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.440 can't really get that across. You know who you are 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.280 and how you are. So I'm like, oh, but it 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.720 just in life in general, I'm like, man, we dropped 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.640 the fun piece in it. We've just now kind of 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.679 put our heads down. And that's where I'm I'm trying 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.680 to change my mindset having it be a new Year, 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.080 going okay, let's just have more fun with it, and 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.520 then I won't be like dragging my feet and with 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.200 it being the new year. Where do you think people 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.160 stop themselves from changing their mindset? 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.440 Well, I think that I think a lot of it 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.640 is in the belief. You know, you come out of 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.560 the gate strong, I'm going to go for it, I'm 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.920 going to do it. I'm gonna, you know, take over 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.880 the world, and then a week later you'll hit a 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.080 hurdle and then all of a sudden you revert back 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:39.400 to old patterns and old thinking. So I love New 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.640 Year energy. Actually, I am one of those people who 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.880 still believe in New Year's resolutions, and I do love 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.680 that coming out of the gate feeling. But I think 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.040 it's really really important to remember it's not just New 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.600 Year's Day or New Year's Week. It's like it's a year. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.280 So we're gonna have hurdles, we're gonna have challenges, we're 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.960 gonna fall, and we got to get back up and 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.280 and and find ways to kind of reset and bring 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.720 that sort of new energy in every time. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:28.560 Right, What do you think sets you apart and your 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.200 book apart from all the other you know, people out 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.320 there doing the transformations and the mindsets and the and 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.080 the messages that you know that we all need to hear. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.280 I think motor size, which is what I came up with. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.959 So I wanted to bring that up, but I didn't 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.640 know how to pronounce it. So I'm glad you did 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.880 because I'm like, I'm I'm a. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.360 Let her talk. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.880 Yeah, And it actually is something that I did inadvertently 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.040 back when I was trying to, you know, get myself 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.800 up off the ground from some actings. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.959 You know, really bad imposter syndrome. It was right after 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.439 I came after Guiding Light, I left the show on 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.000 my own will. I could have stayed, and many times 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.840 I was like why did I do that? But I left, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.280 and I suddenly have just the worst imposter syndrome. It 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.400 was like, why did you? Why did you do that? 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.520 You know, how could you leave such a great job. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.960 There were six thousand actors that auditioned for that. It 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.400 was so random. You got it to begin with, you know, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.360 like you'll like you say, you know why you're not 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.840 the best actor, You're never going to work again, or 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.880 you know any of those things. It was so overwhelming 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:41.320 and I really fell into it pretty hard, to the 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.640 point where a year and a half later I hadn't worked. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:50.120 I really embodied those beliefs. And I was turtle sitting 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.959 some friends and I was up on this book. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.840 I'm sorry turtle sitting like that's you were actually turtle okay, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.199 because I was like, oh, that must be a new 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.479 phrase for like, you know, in your shell and not getting. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:02.480 Out of that. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:09.000 Oh no, it was really literal okay, literal copy that okay, yeah. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.160 Just for some extra cash. And as I was sort 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.640 of overlooking this the ocean, I was just thinking, wow, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.720 you know, I used the same mindset schools to create 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:23.439 success as I was now using to create failure. Because 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.319 I would vision. Initially I was visualizing being on TV 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.840 and making it, and now I was visualizing not making it. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.199 And before I would use questions like what can I do? 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.480 Who can I reach out to? And now it was 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.920 why won't I ever get a job? Why won't anyone 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.920 hire me? And uh? And even just the self talk, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.160 you know was I'm never going to work again, versus, hey, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.120 somebody's made it, why not me? And so even though 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.920 I was taking action, the action was so tainted by 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.600 that mindset, and and so I didn't work and so, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.119 you know, my results were deaf a reflection of that mindset. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.320 So in that moment I decided, I was like, I'm 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.480 better turn this around fast. And so I thought I 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.480 was gonna I was gonna run, I was gonna get 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.960 and get shape. I was gonna stop hanging out with 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.839 all my drinking buddies. You were also complaining about not 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.960 working again, and I was. I lived kind of close 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.840 to the Santa Monica Mountains, and so I would go 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.440 there and I would run up this trail and I 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.760 would do all the mindset. I would really visualize being 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.040 back on TV, you know, getting that job. I would, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.400 you know, ask what kind of what could I do today? 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.600 What's one thing I could do to move forward today? 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.880 And I would do affirmations as I was going. And 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.000 I always joke because at the top of the mountain, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.400 I realized that it was a canyon. And so whatever 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.800 I yelled out, would I go back? So I would 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 yell out, you got the job, and then i'd hear 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:55.360 it back you got the job, I'd celebrate, And three 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.400 weeks later I was running down that hill and I 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.959 got a call you the job. I actually boked a 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.720 national commercial, and three months later I got the call 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.480 for One Life to Live. So it was such a 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:15.360 sort of powerful affirmation of how much these mindset tools 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.120 can make a difference. And the movement, I think just 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.920 helped me get into my body in a different way. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.520 So flash forward many years. I was also you know, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:31.200 new mom, and I had my like twenty minute workout 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:36.040 kind of and I was just thinking, gosh, I'm not 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.560 doing that mindset work that I know is so effective. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.240 Wouldn't it be great if I could be really efficient 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.960 and do it while I'm working out? And that was 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.160 really a day I was running on a treadmill and 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.680 I thought like, gosh, if I was just guided with questions, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.280 that would be really helpful because then I could do 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.439 it at the same time. And well, that was the 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.880 day I was like, well, if I did it, you 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.400 know what if I created that? And that was the 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:08.120 beginning of motor size. So I started to try to 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.920 figure out, well, what are those questions, what is that process? 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.240 What would actually be helpful, how do I do this 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:18.280 and testing it and whatnot. And yeah, it kind of 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:23.640 came out of the gate as an aerobic program because 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.320 I also learned at that point that was when the 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.640 brain science was really busting open, and I started to 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.199 find out how powerful exercise really is for your brain 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.320 and the whole neurogenesis and the rewiring of your brain, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.480 and how it changes your mood and how it makes 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.480 you more creative and more focused, and it actually taps 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.640 the motivation side of your brain. And so it has 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.320 so much power and it has such an impact on 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.080 your life that has nothing to do with just fitting 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.840 into whatever size gene. It's like it's it really is 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.559 a mindset thing. And so I was really just taking 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:11.520 what was already naturally happening with exercise and then adding 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:16.840 in very intentional questions towards a goal. So for me, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.360 it was acting at the time. Well, actually then I 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.600 had shifted because I was starting to coach. But you 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.280 could use it for any goal. And I've had people 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.800 starting businesses, I've had them sell for a lot of money. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.640 I've had people I had a client lose three hundred pounds. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.960 I had somebody find a new relationship because they finally 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.040 had the courage to kind of put themselves out there. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.080 And it's just amazing the ideas. I always ask people, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.160 do you ever go for a walk and think of 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.720 an idea? And most people say, yeah, I do. Or 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.240 you know, when you get up from your desk and 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.400 go take a shower, that's when you're like, oh, now 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.960 I got it. And it's that movement. It's not a mistake, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.480 it's actually what's happening chemically in your mind and the 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.160 near body. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.440 So motor size is basically motivation exercise. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.160 That's what it stood for. That was what it was, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.560 motivational exercise. People then started to be like, oh, are 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.840 you going to motivate me to exercise? And I'm like maybe. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.320 The one sort of unexpected thing was that people who 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.320 don't liked exercise liked it because they weren't thinking about 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.520 the exercise. They were thinking about something else that they 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:37.600 really wanted, and so it shifted their focus and their energy. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:42.200 That wasn't a goal, but hey, it was a great I. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.680 Love that so much, you know, because I think it's 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.360 I love going for walks around my neighborhood or running 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.440 or I used not clear yet to run post baby, 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.360 but when I do, like, that's that's such a good 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.760 thing to then now bring into the workouts, is you know, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.960 either saying things out loud like I'm going to get 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.000 this or I you know, I'm or I'll be okay, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.320 or I'll be fine, or everything's gonna come in abundance 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.240 and all the things, and just saying that out loud. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.680 I think that's a good, you know, tool and something 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.800 that we could all put into our daily lives to. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.280 Be to be more positive too. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.280 And then that affects you and then you're not just 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.840 because all of last year I was just like clinching 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.120 like my you know, my hands, I'm just so tight 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.120 because I'm just so stressed, and you know, I'm like 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.480 for what you know, right, everything was fine. Everything ended 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:28.200 up being fine. 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.480 And I think that well and we know that also 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.320 that's one of the huge things from exercise whatever it is. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.680 You know, originally I did I did aerobics, and I 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.320 was matching the mindset with the movement. So you know, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.040 like if you were pulling something in, what can you 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.520 pull in? Or what are you dumping? And no, and 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.240 so it was very choreographed, if you will but now 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.400 not everybody loves aerobics, so I've also done it to 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.000 a spin, or to running or to walking, And it 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.640 is because you release the when you're moving, so you're 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.520 not clinching, and that in and of itself is part 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.760 of what makes you more creative. So you'll come up 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.760 with great ideas when you're moving, where when you're sitting 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.919 there kind of like caved in. It's just a blank 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:18.560 for sure. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.240 In your book too, because I want everyone to go 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.159 get it. What is your favorite chapter in the what 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:35.920 If It Were Easy? 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.800 Book? 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.080 And which one challenged you the most to write you 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.880 loved and the one that was the most challenging because 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.040 maybe you struggle with it. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:53.879 Or yeah, that's such a great question. I'm torn between 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.600 what I love because the question I do love, and 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.119 that does come from a very specific story. But I 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.600 do think there's another question that I love equally as much. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.560 I think very underestimates and maybe I'll sneak into here 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.040 what if We were Easy? The title did come from 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.480 a real life situation with my husband, who is a 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.960 producer TV producer, and he had why. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.600 Isn't he putting you in your show? Like in his shows? 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.360 He does? So many men focused shows. It's insane. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.160 He does, like, come on. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.000 All of these historical docu dramas, men who built America, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.320 World Wars the West, like I have done. I've done 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:38.520 a bunch of little things. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.239 I have something coming up now actually, but they're all 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.520 pretty small because. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:47.200 They're very there's not a lot of them. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:48.200 You get it. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.680 Yeah, all right, So sorry that the title came from 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:51.240 your husband. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.000 Yeah, yeah, so he he he was had a first 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.439 look deal where you basically get paid for ideas, and 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.080 it was time for his contract to be renewed and 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.240 we lived in New York at the time, just had 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.760 a baby, and we were going out to La so 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.400 he could sign this contract. And he goes and I'm 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.640 sitting in the car and he comes out and he's 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.240 looking white. As it goes, I'm like, what happened? And 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:21.439 he's like, I was fired exactly. Oh wow, that was unexpected. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.240 So yeah, we were definitely in a bit of a 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.280 hole literally at that moment. And so he started to 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.199 panic and to like, what are we going to do? 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.800 This is ridiculous. You know, we have a new baby, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.240 we live in New York, and on and on. It's 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.359 worth I'm trying to brainstorm and be positive and like 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.080 there's lots of possibilities. He's like, this business is impossible. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.600 I'm like, well, somebody's made it, can't be impossible, and 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.280 he's just he's like, oh, but it is. And uh. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.960 He for some reason was obsessed with making a million 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.679 dollars and he just because he thought that would somehow 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.000 set us free. And he's like, I don't know, nobody 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.199 can make a million dollars in this business. And I 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.400 was like, well, somebody's made it, so you can too, 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.719 and he's like na, na na. I'm like, well, what 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.240 if it were easy? And he fought back, It's not easy, 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.720 you know, this business. And then I asked again, you know, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.080 but what if it were easy, what would you do? 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.679 And just in that moment, I think he was frustrated 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.840 and realized I was going to keep asking. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.800 You were going to stop until you got the answer. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.600 I got it and he's like, I don't know. If 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.040 it were easy, I might start my own company. And 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.280 that had never been an idea that we talked about ever. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.199 And I was like, really, well what would that look like? 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.080 And then we started to talk about it. The next day, 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.480 he called a friend they started a company and one 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.040 year later he made a million dollars. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.560 Oh my god, I love that. That's so great. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.280 Yes, not just the million, that's like, that's that's just 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.680 the okay cool. But what he did and how he 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.440 you know, something that he didn't even think he could 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.880 do or never even said out loud, became something exactly 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.440 what he wanted to do. That's amazing. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.160 I love that, and I think and that's the point 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.320 of the question. You know, it's not this Pollyanna whatever 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.880 it were easy, because no, I mean, you know, lots 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.000 of things are going to be challenging along the way, 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.280 but that what if it were easy? What would you do? 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.240 Really opens your heart to what's possible? What would you 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.199