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Speaker 1: Contrary to what everyone thinks, being an artist is extremely difficult.

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone that thinks it it's easy?

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Speaker 3: A lot of people think it's That is actually a

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Speaker 3: I refuse to get caught up in the noise. I

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Speaker 3: want to say true to who I know I'm supposed

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Speaker 4: I like that dead Ass.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight

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Speaker 1: from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become

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Speaker 1: Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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Speaker 3: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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Speaker 3: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: Be raw or but most apportly be us.

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Speaker 3: But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do we,

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Speaker 3: and through it all, one thing has never changed. This

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Speaker 3: is a sea because we got a lot to talk about, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, every time, I'm going to take you guys back

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Speaker 1: to the origin. The origin two thousand and I would

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Speaker 1: say two thousand and twelve, when I had retired from

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Speaker 1: the league.

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Speaker 4: We had decided that we wanted.

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Speaker 1: To get into TV film officially, I completely retired and everything,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to start creating my own content because

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Speaker 1: I was tired of being gang member number one or

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Speaker 1: inmate number seven. Right, And I sat down with you

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, I want to start making

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Speaker 1: a social sitcom by my family, And he was just like,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. But the reason why I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to the story is because I want to tell

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Speaker 1: people why I chose to use our family.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: As an artist, you have to you have to create

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Speaker 1: art about what's important to you and at that moment,

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Speaker 1: and still in this moment now, family is the most

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Speaker 4: So I figured I would create.

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Speaker 1: I would let my family, my wife, my kids, be

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Speaker 1: my muse and be able to create out of what

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Speaker 1: organically matters to me because I knew I would always

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Speaker 1: have a story and tell And the biggest thing about

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Speaker 1: being an artist is having an infinite story. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about what an infinite story means when we get back.

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Speaker 3: And being infinitely inspired. Yes, right, yes, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 3: Karaoke time, you had a selection today, babe, Yes, because

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna sing, uh, I was gonna say

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Speaker 3: Usher my way, but then we butchered the last Usher

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Speaker 3: song we did for karaoke.

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Speaker 2: It was you and I in unison.

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Speaker 4: We did not butcher anything. We we said, we said right.

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Speaker 2: We did sing the song, it was just the wrong song.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I sounded goodes I didn't say butcher.

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Speaker 3: When I say butcher, I mean that we sang the

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Speaker 3: completely wrong Usher song.

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Speaker 2: In that moment, I was gonna say my way, though

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Speaker 2: you're my way. I had in my way. I like

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Speaker 2: it my way when I think what I say.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this.

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Speaker 2: Around yours you're no good. It was my way.

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Speaker 4: That was as fast as that was. When you're giving

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Speaker 3: That's it because I wanted to split time with you, honey.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to monopolize the entire karaoke time.

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Speaker 1: Alright, I'm going to give you the song I want

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Speaker 4: This is how I stay relaxed.

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Speaker 6: M right, get right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Back away from the mic, Back away from

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Josh, my producer over there, Thank you Josh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because to me, it's about being zen in the

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Speaker 1: creative artist space. That's why I will not allow you

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Speaker 1: to get me out of my zenness with your distractions

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Speaker 1: of arguing about my way.

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Speaker 4: I will still stays in.

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Speaker 2: We'll find a way to pay these bills while you're

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Speaker 2: in your zell moment. Okay, your zen moments.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not that's not how you see how

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Speaker 4: That's your meditation.

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to slip that in there. You

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Speaker 4: I'll be trying to slip.

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Speaker 2: A little change. Don't neither, I'll be doing it. It

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Speaker 1: Up, I'll be If you heard them footsteps in the background,

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Speaker 3: We never hear footsteps. So mission big step, there comes

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Speaker 3: that step. I'm deliric, youngster.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, mister.

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Speaker 7: Office, like that.

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Speaker 4: Hot step. I'm n gangst Oh.

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Speaker 7: Oh god Lord, yes, from yourself time. No more. But

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Speaker 7: when you gotta sing, you gotta sing.

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Speaker 2: You know you gotta do when spirit moves you.

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Speaker 8: So we got two opera no Ops. Today is kind

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Speaker 8: to stay informed. And this thing is kind of disturbing.

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Speaker 8: There's this company that was formed in Israel it's called

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Speaker 8: got into a contract with the US government that allows

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Speaker 8: ICE to be able to hack into any cell phone.

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Speaker 8: What now, if you saw earlier this year, maybe last year,

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Speaker 5: You hear about that.

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Speaker 8: So now I is getting access to this technology which

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Speaker 8: will let them hacken too anyone's phones. And if you've

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Speaker 8: heard about what's been going on. When people have been

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Speaker 8: coming back into the country from other countries, they'll sometimes

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Speaker 8: say you need to show us your social media, you

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Speaker 8: take your phone from you and go through it, which

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Speaker 8: is something they've been doing to Palestinians and Israel for

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Speaker 8: a long time. If you try to go through a checkpoint,

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Speaker 8: they'll take your phone. Or if you're visiting from another country,

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Speaker 8: if you saw the shell mode, they show.

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Speaker 1: This yeah slick slick, Yeah, So I.

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Speaker 7: Want to know.

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Speaker 8: What do you think about this? Is this frightening as

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Speaker 3: Yes, baby, absolute opinion. I mean no, that that's insane.

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Speaker 3: So pretty much they're able to control the cell phone

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Speaker 8: Well yeah maybe I don't know if yours can blow up,

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Speaker 8: but they can definitely see what's in it. And even

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Speaker 3: To That's how all of our islanders we communicate.

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Speaker 2: That's what on the what'sapp.

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Speaker 4: Because people communicate from different countries.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's extremely Yeah, so even encrypted apps, they'll be

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy, bro. One of my favorite movies

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Speaker 4: of all time is Nimated State.

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Speaker 5: Right, so I'm surprised by any of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: Enemated State what came out in like ninety six, and

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Speaker 1: tap into card cams, any camera, or any device. And

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Speaker 1: they've been telling us for over thirty years a day.

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Speaker 1: The Eagle Eye was anything. The fact that they have

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Speaker 2: It's scary art imitating line.

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Speaker 9: I feel like they've always been using it. It's just

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Speaker 9: been confined to militaries.

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Speaker 9: That's where most technology is confined for a long time

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Speaker 1: I agree with that because if you listen, if you

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Speaker 5: Up your phone, population.

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Speaker 4: It populates immediately.

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Speaker 8: And they've been denying for years that they are listening,

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Speaker 8: but they're definitely listening. It happens every time, Like nobody's

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Speaker 4: Definitely listening, yes, And this is the truth.

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Speaker 1: We all just need to take our devices, turn them off,

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Speaker 4: All we you're doing is giving them access to us.

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Speaker 1: I remember my my mom was telling me about this

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Speaker 4: Everything came out in the eighties and they were talking

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Speaker 2: Like Clear with biometrics at the airport, you know, Clear

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Speaker 7: They've been using.

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Speaker 8: At the self checkout lanes at Target. Target has had Yeah,

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Speaker 8: They're using facial recognition software. So if you've ever stolen

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, they're probably watching you skin and not stand

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Speaker 4: you say that though, they'll let people get to five

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And also like I used to be like, you know,

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Speaker 8: it's cool to have your own FBI agent. Like if

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Speaker 8: I was with or where I went. That to me

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Speaker 8: is a little bit more innocuous than the government saying

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Speaker 8: if you disparage the president, because what they're doing is

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Speaker 8: bringing back that I forget what it's called, but there

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Speaker 2: To try to use that against you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's the issue that I'm having, is that

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Speaker 8: we are up against like free speech and free.

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Speaker 10: Patriot don't matter to me.

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Speaker 3: But I've also heard even with Chad GPT, they're like,

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Speaker 11: They did it all at once, and they had these

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Speaker 8: No, I guess it's it's even more important than ever

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Speaker 4: I agree a thousand percent. You can't flow with certainty.

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Speaker 1: There's a saying that says that you never you never

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Speaker 5: Yeah, until you release it, because you'll go back. And

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Speaker 4: True, that's true.

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Speaker 3: It also makes you think of the flow and the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why with artists is so important

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Speaker 4: It never works that way.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the book talks about that.

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Speaker 5: She does.

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Speaker 11: It says that everyone's an artist. I do think so

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Speaker 3: I think it's something that we all have within us.

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Speaker 1: I think people lose their identity because they're not allowed

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Speaker 4: For example, you have a young kid who likes to draw, Right,

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Speaker 4: what are you doing this for? Go write your books?

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Speaker 1: You know, think about it a kid wants, even if

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Speaker 1: But when you constantly getting beat down and that's not

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Speaker 1: And then when you lose that, you go into robot mode,

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Speaker 4: But you know why the artist side is so important.

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Speaker 4: It's your voice.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has something to say or something they want to

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Something that talks about in the book is how we

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Speaker 8: He talks about God a lot in this book, and

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Speaker 7: A creator yourself.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely exactly, And we're living amongst the greatest creation that

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Speaker 9: A lot of my images, a lot of my images

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Speaker 9: I don't know what I'm not intentionally I'm about to

448
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 9: go find an amazing image. Just I'm outside and grateful,

449
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 9: be alive, I'm experiencing the day. Whatever comes to me

450
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 9: comes to me. I'm gonna just capture what I said.

451
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Speaker 11: It's literally the equivalent to not having a thought, but

452
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 11: just having a paint brush and a canvas, or having

453
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Speaker 11: a pencil and a piece of paper and just like doodling.

454
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Speaker 11: Like I think that's exactly what you're.

455
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Speaker 3: Absolutely well even think about it now, there's been like

456
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: a shit, not a shift, but like an influx of

457
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Speaker 3: people doing like sipping paints, like when people get together

458
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: actually are able to like you know, congregate, socialized, but

459
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: also express themselves artistically. Adult coloring books, you know, color

460
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: by numbers, like you find that some people tend to

461
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: back into that as a way to destress because of

462
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: all of the monotony of life.

463
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Speaker 1: At TPS, there was a young lady was telling me

464
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Speaker 1: that they did a sip and paint right, and of

465
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: course it was color by numbers, but people got a

466
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Speaker 1: chance to choose their own colors.

467
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Speaker 4: And there was a psychiatrist or a psychologist, I.

468
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Speaker 1: Don't know the difference exactly, but was there and was

469
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Speaker 1: explaining to people based on the colors they picked. They

470
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: could tell the mood and what was going on in

471
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Speaker 1: their lives based on the colors. And she was like,

472
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: it was transformative because you've had two people from two

473
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: different walks of life used almost the same exact color palette,

474
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Speaker 1: and then when they got a chance to talk about

475
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: what they were going through, you realize that their lives

476
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: were similar in their emotions. You know, people who used

477
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: brighter colors were happier going through something. I just got engaged,

478
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: I just got a new job. Then it was like

479
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Speaker 1: people who used darker colors or colors that were duller.

480
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Speaker 4: What happened? I lost somebody.

481
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Speaker 1: And it's amazing how if you just take someone out

482
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Speaker 1: of their consistent element put them in a place to

483
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Speaker 1: be creative, How they can be creative without even realizing

484
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: that they're telling a story. And that's part of the

485
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: human connection that I think so many of us are missing,

486
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: especially in the digital space. So much stuff is being

487
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: force fed to us that you don't even feel like

488
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: you get a chance to be creative, because even if

489
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: you do something creative and you put it out there,

490
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: people just shit on it. It's so true, and that's

491
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: what takes people away from wanting to be creative because

492
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Speaker 1: it's way why y'all.

493
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Speaker 4: Shitting on my thing?

494
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Speaker 1: And it's like, you got to understand as an artist

495
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: that their thing is sacred to you. You're going to

496
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: get eight billion different opinions and all of those opinions

497
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: are going to beat those people's versions.

498
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Speaker 4: Of what they say about your art.

499
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Speaker 2: That's why I said say yeah, and that was to

500
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Speaker 2: go that you literally directly led into what my SoundBite was.

501
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not going to allow people's opinions and

502
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: comments and whatnot interfere with me as an artist, because

503
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: if it does, it's going to completely deter me from

504
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: doing the one thing that I feel like is a

505
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: gift that God has given me. So yeah, And I

506
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: tell people all the time when they ask about just

507
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: even content creating people who want to get into that space,

508
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: they're way devout. And I have been able to sustain

509
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: all of this. It's because we are literally organically doing

510
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: all the things that we do on a regular basis.

511
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: We just capture it.

512
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: Like Matt can tell you all the time, a lot

513
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: of the times that he catches, you know, whether it's

514
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: content for Patreon or even just photos like we hashtagged

515
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: it fly on the wall. And then I look back

516
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: at the photos Matt has taken and a lot of

517
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: it is from like a photojournalistic standpoint where it tells

518
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: a story, and I'm just like, man, this candid story

519
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: that he's telling with this photo. There's so many things

520
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: that you can draft from this. So continue to live

521
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: in that space of being authentic and then you can

522
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: carry on. You never see the valain I really jumping

523
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: on trends and fads and things like that, because those

524
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: last for what a forty eight hour cycle, and.

525
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Speaker 7: The next y'all do a prank video. I quit.

526
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 4: That's not that's not that's not our ministry at all.

527
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: And the DM y'all should try this trend, try this prank,

528
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: do this. The kay one guy had a prank. I

529
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: was like, dude, if I ever tried to do this decay,

530
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Speaker 1: y'all might see me. First of all, y'all know she

531
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Speaker 1: don't she don't play with supernatural things, all right, like

532
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: we don't believe in duppies, but but still it's like,

533
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, don't play with supernatural. This guy did a

534
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: whole prank where his wife came home after date and

535
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: out with her friends, and he had all of the

536
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: kids going hidden somewhere, right, I'm gonna try to find

537
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: it on here. And what he did was he had

538
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things set up like a haunted house.

539
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: Could you imagine me doing that? That cane with these

540
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: guns in his house?

541
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Speaker 4: She would.

542
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: And we even told the boys, were like, once you

543
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: get to a certain age where you're coming in and

544
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: out this house, announce yourself.

545
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: Announce yourself in and out.

546
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Speaker 2: He walks in here, I'm like, who's that? Because, honey, what.

547
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Speaker 10: You should do if you want to just put a

548
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 10: whole pot of food in the fridge.

549
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: Put a whole pot of food.

550
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Speaker 5: It was stupid.

551
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Why I can't tell you you real video didn't share

552
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: the video of the girl.

553
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 5: That was your brain, that's glitch, your brain.

554
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: It was like this much food left in the party.

555
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: She's fast out and she dropped her knees. It was great.

556
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 4: She got magnies made that video. I don't know who

557
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 4: that lady was, and she was sad.

558
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: She got a little body go on.

559
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Speaker 10: She's a trainey videos like that though, Yeah, she'd be

560
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 10: yelling at that.

561
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Speaker 2: Man doesn't recording it. It was great, she said, but

562
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: your brain does glitch. Your brain. I can't wait to

563
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: say that to somebody in your real life. Your brain,

564
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: that's glitch to her, he said.

565
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: She said, it's on door dash, right, He said, so

566
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: who pay for DoorDash? She said.

567
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: That she had the pot cover like Catain.

568
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: That's what it would look like if I pranked you.

569
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: That's what it would look like.

570
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: Will be funny, fun Yeah, so I agree, triple quit

571
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: if we ever do a prank.

572
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 7: But I also think so.

573
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 8: In this book too, she talks about there's one practice

574
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 8: you have to do every day called morning pages.

575
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Speaker 9: Sorry, before you even get to that, I want to

576
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 9: double back to what you were saying, like you got

577
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 9: to push through like what people are saying, because sometimes

578
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 9: it's not just friends, it be on family. Like my

579
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 9: mother did it to me by accident. She don't realize

580
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 9: she did it to me. She introduced me to the arts,

581
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 9: but she's school school, school, school school. When I pushed

582
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 9: away from school and dived into the arts.

583
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: It was like she was upset.

584
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's school.

585
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: Photograph because your family was the same way music. What

586
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: about you?

587
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Speaker 11: It wasn't like that, It wasn't. Yeah, my mother pushed

588
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 11: me to arts, but she just let me pursue whatever

589
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 11: I wanted to. So she was just like, when I

590
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 11: decided to leave corporate and then do photographer full time,

591
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 11: She's just like, thing's gonna work.

592
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 10: You know, it's on you. But she didn't push me.

593
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 11: She did push my daughter away though. She was like,

594
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 11: I want to be I want to be a photographer,

595
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 11: and she was like, nope, you better be a doctor.

596
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 11: I'm like, but that was your that was your mom.

597
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 10: That's my mom, same same person, just two different people.

598
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: You know what's funny.

599
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Though they said about West Indian mothers mother, west Indian

600
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: mothers raised their.

601
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: Daughters and loved their sons.

602
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I've heard that and think, think about your mom with

603
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: you and Sakari, y'all can't do nothing right, but Christan

604
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: can't do nothing wrong.

605
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: So true, that's absolutely right. But my mom didn't support

606
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: me when I know, like I made your mom the

607
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: school of communication. I think because she also knew how

608
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: difficult the nursing field could be and she was so

609
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: drained by it that she was like, girl, if you

610
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: could do something else, do it.

611
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: My dad was like, so, how much money you're going

612
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: to make? And when you punch in your clock.

613
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 10: Who is YouTube?

614
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: Mister?

615
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Say you mister YouTube does pay? Or who does? Who does?

616
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 10: You got to punch into YouTube.

617
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: Because we talked about the videos being on YouTube and

618
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: we make money from YouTube. And he's like, so this

619
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: guy YouTube, he does cut the check for you? Or

620
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: like how does it work?

621
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 9: Okay, Eventually she started, My mom started supporting everything. But

622
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 9: at first it was like you have to kind.

623
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: Of it's hard.

624
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 11: It's like you gotta travel for a lot of a

625
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 11: lot of family. They don't understand what the road takes,

626
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 11: but they don't understand that. We also don't know. As

627
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 11: an artist, we don't know. I think it's it's the

628
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 11: things that's innate in you that you have to do.

629
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 11: I'm just gonna have to go down this path. So

630
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 11: I understand parents who give you any flag or you know,

631
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 11: say like this probably shouldn't be the way you're going

632
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 11: as an artist. I understand the mindset of mindset because

633
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 11: it's like I don't know anybody who's done this before, right.

634
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 10: I know that there's guaranteed money being.

635
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 11: A nerd, so there's guaranteed money, so you're doing possible job. Yeah,

636
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 11: so I kind of get that, But how about.

637
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: If you have a kid that's in the very early

638
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: stages of life. For example, you know Cooda loves blocks,

639
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: he loves building, so I might be able to say, Okay,

640
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: if you really love it that much, maybe you want

641
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: to be like an architect, like it can translate that

642
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: creativity into something that's lucrative.

643
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 8: Yes, you do say, I have heard someone say that

644
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 8: when you remember your earliest interest, that is kind of

645
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 8: what your purpose is.

646
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: I forget who I heard say.

647
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: That they can you stand the rain?

648
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Part of it was I played a character named Sean

649
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: where he wrote a book called The World Ambassador of Dreams,

650
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: And the whole premise of the movie is that when

651
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: you're a child, your earliest ideas and thoughts of who

652
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: you want to be is who you're supposed to be.

653
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: And we spend our whole life being judged and pushed

654
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: away from conditioning to be a condition. That's literally what

655
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: you said, That's what the movie is about.

656
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think.

657
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Speaker 7: Most people have the bigger problem that a lot of

658
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 7: people have.

659
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Speaker 8: It's not just like that outside critiques that you get

660
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 8: from family, the people telling you to do something else,

661
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 8: but it's also your inner critic. A lot of us

662
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: think that, you know, we can't survive on our art,

663
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 8: or our art is not good enough. We need to

664
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 8: have our nine to five, We need to have our

665
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 8: plan A. And art becomes your plan B and so,

666
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 8: and it's not even a plan B. It becomes maybe

667
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 8: like an extra curricular thing, yeah, just for fun or

668
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 8: on the side, or for yourself. And so in the

669
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 8: book the there's a daily activity you have to do,

670
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 8: and it's morning Pages, and you have to sit down

671
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 8: for thirty minutes. The first thing you do in the morning,

672
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 8: sit down for thirty minutes and write, and it's supposed

673
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 8: to be like three pages. And it literally does only

674
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 8: take thirty minutes for you to write three pages. And

675
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 8: you don't think about what you're gonna write. You don't

676
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 8: have to try to make it poetic. You just write

677
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 8: whatever's in your head. And you start to notice that

678
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 8: what's coming out is your inner critic. And so basically

679
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 8: what this practice helps you to do is it helps

680
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 8: you to ground yourself and release your inner critic from

681
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 8: being living in your mind for the day.

682
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: I think that's dope. I think that's dope.

683
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: It's like meditation, Yeah, exactly, it's the form of getting

684
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: it out.

685
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 8: It's literally one of the best forms of meditation that

686
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 8: I've been able to practice is waking up in the

687
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 8: morning and just emptying that, you know, any any kinds

688
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 8: of negative thoughts that could be just sitting dormant, waiting

689
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 8: to fuck up your day, you know, or like make

690
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 8: you procrastinate, or make you self or think twice before

691
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 8: you post that thing on Instagram or before you you know,

692
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 8: write that poem you were thinking about, or whatever it

693
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 8: is that your creative practice is you just like dump

694
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 8: that the first thing in the morning in your day

695
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 8: just goes by so much smoother. So I would recommend

696
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 8: if you got thirty minutes in the morning.

697
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: Try not just artists who people general help you life, don't.

698
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't always do it first thing in the morning,

699
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: but we typically like to ground outside first thing in

700
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: the morning and we'll go out and meditate. But even

701
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: when I get with my fellas and I smoke, you know,

702
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: sometimes they say smoking brings paranoia.

703
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's paranoia.

704
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I think it is smoking creates

705
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: for me a very introspective state, and then I start

706
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: to think about all of those fears, all of those

707
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: things that are sitting dormant, and you become paranoid because

708
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: those voices become very loud in your head. And I'll

709
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: never forget when we want tour. And I had to

710
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: do the backflip whenever I was smoked, all the voices.

711
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: What if you fall, but if you're break your neck,

712
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: you can go viral. You got four kids. And then

713
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I started asking myself, why are these thoughts even in

714
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: my head? If I want to do something? Why do

715
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: these thoughts live dormant until I'm going to relax and

716
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: then they come up? And what I started doing, Like

717
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: you said, I didn't write them down, but I actually

718
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: started to express them and I say them to people.

719
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: I talked to Matt, I talked to Josh, I talked

720
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: to you.

721
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: And what I do is when those thoughts come up,

722
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I no longer try to hide them and act like

723
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I tell the truth. I told Matt and them the

724
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: other day when it came to football and basketball and Jackson,

725
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I had a dad fear. We were smoke, and I said,

726
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: my biggest fear is that my son is gonna work

727
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: his tail off and be the greatest at everything that

728
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: he wants to do, but he may only be five eleven.

729
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: He's going to be disappointed playing basketball because if you're

730
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: not six', five you're considered. Small and if you're five

731
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: eleven and you put your heart into, something that disappointment

732
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: could drive you to a place Where i've watched it

733
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: with so many other, athletes and rather than say it

734
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: to my son or let it sit, DORMANT i just

735
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: told them AND i got different perspectives from, them which

736
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: actually dulled my, fear because when you hear a different

737
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: perspective and it's LIKE i even think about it like,

738
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: that then it's the, way why AM i even think

739
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: about it to?

740
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 4: HIM i didn't take him Because matt and And jay

741
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: was just like withde he's five.

742
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Eleven if he's going to be great at playing, basketball,

743
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: right there are five eleven people who are. Great but

744
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he's playing football and track and has a,

745
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: dad even if he doesn't go to THE, nba he

746
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: still has so many other.

747
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: Things AND i was, like you know, What you're.

748
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Right most of those dudes that had those struggles didn't

749
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: have someone in their life to explain it and what

750
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: those struggles are going to Be like, me explaining it

751
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: to my, friends and in them telling me reminded me

752
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: that it's not only just. Me my son could also

753
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: go to my friends to talk to. Them so sometimes

754
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: it's good to, meditate find out what your fears, are

755
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: let it out in your, art let it out with your,

756
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: friends let it all, out you.

757
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 7: Know, yeah, YEAH i think.

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 8: Too it can be hard sometimes for people to even

759
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 8: know what they're afraid. Of sometimes you just feel like

760
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 8: you have a. Block you just feel, stuck you know

761
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 8: What i'm, Saying and, you, yeah just as a creative

762
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 8: and you have to do something to try to get it.

763
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 8: Out and sometimes just just writing without, thinking without you,

764
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 8: know trying to make sense of. It because when you're

765
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 8: talking to, somebody you want to be able to communicate

766
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 8: clearly what you're actually. Feeling but when you're, writing just

767
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 8: keeping it to. Yourself you can write anything on the.

768
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 8: Page it doesn't have to make, sense but it'll start

769
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 8: to make sense to.

770
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: You what about the artist, rut BECAUSE i Know i've

771
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: encountered so many artists from various different like spaces that they're,

772
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: in whether it's, television, film whether it's, painting whether it's,

773
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: yeah in my nail. Text sometimes they're just, like, Man

774
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: i'm just not feeling Like i'm in a creative space right.

775
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Now i'm having like a creative. Roadblock do you guys

776
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: ever feel like? That how do you get through? It

777
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: is like a, burnout you?

778
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Think or is it just having to re position yourself

779
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: or is it tried to be reinspired or tapping into

780
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: what is your new? Inspiration have you guys had roadblocks like?

781
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: That, Absolutely i've had.

782
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 9: That BUT i think those things come on, purpose because

783
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 9: that's when you start making great art again that you resonate.

784
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 9: With you take, yeah when those times, happen embrace it

785
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 9: because you don't know what's happening that you can create

786
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 9: out of that.

787
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: MOMENT i think that goes back to a triple set

788
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: about you can't be so rigid you're in a. Block

789
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to sit, still sit still and what

790
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: is the word meditate so that you can find out

791
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: where the flow is going to come. From sometimes as,

792
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: artists we become so rigid with this work that, worked that,

793
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: worked and now it's no longer, art you, know it's

794
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: Just i'm following the steps THAT i know, worked and

795
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: then you get a block because those steps worked before

796
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: and now it's not.

797
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: Working you.

798
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Know it happens to people on social media all the.

799
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Time Kevin stage talked about. This you post a video

800
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and it goes, viral so you're, like, ah at. Work

801
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: then you post another video and it goes.

802
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: Viral this is my.

803
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: Thing then you posting those same videos and they're no

804
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: longer going, viral and you're, Like i'm kind of in a.

805
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: Rut it's, like, no you're not in a. Rut you

806
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: don't choose what goes. Viral exactly What i'm.

807
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: Saying there's so many variables and what that You you

808
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: could have the same seven different platforms and they go

809
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: viral on, TikTok not go viral On, facebook viral On,

810
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: instagram not, viral you know What i'm.

811
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Saying and as an, artist it's very it's a very

812
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: slippery slope to gauge your success based off.

813
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 10: For that that is you should ever do?

814
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 11: It, YEAH i think that's the craziest, thing because to be,

815
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 11: fair when you're creating, art you're literally creating art initially for.

816
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 11: Yourself you're the first person that's going to consume this.

817
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 11: Artwork once you put it, out you can't do anything with,

818
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 11: it so to say my art isn't this or that

819
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 11: because of what someone else's opinion is is the most

820
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 11: ludicrous thing.

821
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 5: That you can ever.

822
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: Do it's a mental, illness, yes and it.

823
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 11: Is it, Is AND i, THINK i, mean my perspective

824
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 11: is a little bit different BECAUSE i started my art

825
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 11: journey drawing right and it was no social media WHEN

826
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 11: i did. THIS i started drawing for my own self

827
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 11: AND i would show my, Friends i'll show my, PARENTS

828
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 11: i show my siblings or.

829
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 10: Whatever BUT i have to be comfortable with What i'm seeing.

830
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 11: Myself and sometimes the rut isn't AND i can't base

831
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 11: it off of what everyone else. Sees but sometimes my

832
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 11: rut it's it's a transformative place to.

833
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 10: Be you've been drawing the same thing for a, year all,

834
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 10: right what we're going to do?

835
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: Now?

836
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 11: RIGHT i think it's great to also draw inspiration from other,

837
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 11: people not necessarily comparing, yourself because that's what we don't

838
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 11: want to.

839
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 10: Do but cob but you can collaborate to it however

840
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 10: you want to do, IT i.

841
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 11: Think but it's seeing what how, like how other people

842
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 11: approach what they do can be very inspiring for an

843
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 11: artist to just broadening horizons because art ultimately is about

844
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 11: your own personal, growth so how you see the. World,

845
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 11: Right SO i think the red thing, is LIKE i,

846
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 11: said Like matt, SAYS i think you should embrace. It

847
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 11: it's something that's you're going to burst something new out

848
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 11: of that sort of like gray area in your in your.

849
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Process but it's a necessary one for. SURE i think

850
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: you think you touched a good point on everybody not

851
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: enjoying your. ART i think artists need to realize that.

852
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: You first of, all you don't say you're artists because

853
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: you do something like a PAIN i, Drew i'm an, actor.

854
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: Photographer that's not everybody has artists in.

855
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Them if you, create Like tripple, said if you're, creative

856
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: you're an.

857
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: Artist and all of us come from the. Creators so

858
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 4: we're all, creatives.

859
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: RIGHT i think a lot of us suppress our creativity

860
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: because we fear that people.

861
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: Don't like what we want to.

862
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Create but the mental illness is if you like what you,

863
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: create that's all ultimately why you're supposed to. Create and

864
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: when you suppress your creativity because other people may not

865
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: like what, create you've ultimately suppressed your identity and now

866
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: you sit there with no identity and.

867
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: That's stifling in. Itself that's what people going.

868
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 10: Through you almost putting your own roadblocks in that don't

869
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 10: need to be.

870
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: There mm.

871
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 9: Hmm, yeah but you said something else that is good

872
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 9: because you started as. SKETCHING a lot of creatives and

873
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 9: artists start in a different field of art and then

874
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 9: transition to something. Else, originally WHEN i was a, KID

875
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 9: i was doing piano. Lessons about ten years LATER i

876
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 9: turned into.

877
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: A drum, DRUMS i.

878
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: Remember after that it became a. Photographer so creativity isn't one.

879
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 11: Way, yeah it's not a linear. Thing like your artist

880
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 11: isn't just one. THING i think as like as the book,

881
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 11: says and you, know we're from the great. CREATOR i

882
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 11: think a lot of times we pigeonhole ourselves into the

883
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 11: areas that we can see where we can make. Money

884
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Speaker 11: but as a, photographer as a person who started, drawing

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Speaker 11: who then became a, photographer who then wants to be

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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 11: a film, director film, FILMMAKER i prided myself on knowing

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00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 11: for a fact that my art isn't linear like that

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00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 11: is the driving force to me to when there's doubt

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00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 11: that things that come into me to say. Pause but

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Speaker 11: then things that come to my mind that, says, uh,

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Speaker 11: well can you really do? It like can you do

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00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 11: what you see other people? Do and it's, like, YO

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00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 11: i can do mad. Things, Bro i'm not just doing

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Speaker 11: The god didn't make me to be a photographer THAT

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Speaker 11: i do, know, Right like, you you have to know

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Speaker 11: that the thing that you're using is just the. Medium

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Speaker 11: god don't make me do a job like that you

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Speaker 11: said to be a photography, right it. Is it is

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Speaker 11: the medium That i'm using to express my artistic. Talents,

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Speaker 11: absolutely that is. It absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Save that one in that you, said moment the. TRUTH

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Speaker 4: i think That god.

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Speaker 3: Can't create.

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Speaker 4: Us you, KNOW i just it came off the. TOP

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Speaker 4: i don't know WHERE i heard.

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Speaker 6: It but.

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Speaker 3: That speaks to you saying that There's god Like god

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Speaker 3: in all of. Us so it's the same thing with

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: the creative creativity in.

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00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: Us creativity like all of, us all of, us.

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: We all exhibit it and have it in some.

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00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 9: Way i'm saying you're not a creative as. Well there's

913
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 9: a lot of people who Say i'm not a creative

914
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 9: when they're around other. Artists don't put that title on.

915
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 9: Yourself that, is you're an artist in your own way

916
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 9: and maybe through flowers or. Whatever you can create and

917
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 9: express your art in your own. Way it doesn't have

918
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 9: to be one of the typical ways that people typically

919
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 9: become an, artist which is to make.

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00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: Money let's be, real, Right currency was created by.

921
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Man, right So god would never create you to have

922
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: a job because it was currency was created by. Us

923
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: say there was no, currency what would be your purpose

924
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: as a. Human it would be to, create, right to

925
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: share your experiences with other.

926
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: Humans it's safe to say that every human was created

927
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: with the ability to, create, Right so we all have

928
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: to like sitting at. It but you, KNOW i am a.

929
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: Creative that's why it's important that you say. That you can't,

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00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: say just BECAUSE i don't get paid to, Create i'm

931
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: not a.

932
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: Creative, no you are a.

933
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: Creative and the minute you start saying to you If

934
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: i'm not a, creative you're losing part of your identity

935
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: as a. Human that's the BIG i got my moment of.

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Speaker 1: Truth don't steal, It. Josh you know you like to

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Speaker 1: steal moment of.

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Speaker 4: Truth my.

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Speaker 10: BAD i won't do it. Again.

940
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 5: Jee there's another good. Book the name of the Book.

941
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 9: Artists but there's another, Book The Creative, act a way

942
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 9: of being By Rick rubin talks about the same principles

943
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 9: and a lot of. It it's just guiding you how

944
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 9: to how to just, be the way to, go how

945
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 9: to go through life and all the art that you

946
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: want to. Express all those things will come to you after.

947
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 9: You it's still for a moment like that good.

948
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: Stuff n'st little. Gems we had this episode especially for

949
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: people who always. That we always get messages from people

950
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: who are either into the arts wanting to start having.

951
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: Apprehensions SO i hope you got some tips tricks.

952
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: Today All, right, y'all let's take a quick break and

953
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: we are going to get back to listener letters or

954
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: get into it rather stick.

955
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Around all, right we're.

956
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Back you may take this, one, baby go for. It all,

957
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: right let's get. Money thank you for what you guys.

958
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Do your podcast is truly. Inspiring AND i just finished

959
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: reading y'all's book And what's beyond. Empowering thank you so.

960
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Much y'all's podcast keep me, pushing especially when life be.

961
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: Lifeing regarding the purpose, PODCASTS i go by a. Chirp

962
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: i'm always spreading words of, encouragement always, happy always making people,

963
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: laugh even when internally dealing with my own. SHIT i

964
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: know my purpose is being a therapist for people's. Vaults

965
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: being a therapist or people's. Vaults everyone in big, capitals

966
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: from family to, friends to coworkers to, randoms they openly

967
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: come to me and ask for, advice openly tell me

968
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: their deep secrets and. TRAUMAS i guess therapists is written

969
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: on my forehead, lol or it's my non judgmental approach

970
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: and just keeping it real. Attitude my hubby is always,

971
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: like you got to start charging for these therapy. Sessions

972
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: your homegirls keep asking for me and honestly don't do.

973
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: IT i honestly don't do it for the money or

974
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: even really wanted. To it's just part of me and

975
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: wanted to listen to people's issues and help them through.

976
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: It but Sometimes i'm, exhausted exhausted of hearing their issues

977
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: and exhausted of carrying, it even THOUGH i know it

978
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with. Me it's just WHO i.

979
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: AM i, care and WHEN i care or love for,

980
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: SOMEONE i care and love. Hard AND i sit back

981
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and wonder what about? Me what about my?

982
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 4: Issues who CAN i vent? To what about my traumas and?

983
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: Demons i'm here pouring into everyone but who is going

984
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: to pour into?

985
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Me everyone comes asking for, advice but no one comes

986
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: and asks How i'm doing this being the main reason

987
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: WHY i didn't go on to taking my state examine

988
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: becoming clinical psychologists because after giving therapy to inmates in

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00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: an internship, PROGRAM i said it was too much for.

990
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Me so coming on to, Y'all so coming to, y'all

991
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: how DO i keep fulfilling my purpose of being the

992
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: chirp and being everyone shoulder to cry on without my glass?

993
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: Overflowing?

994
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Again thank you for y'all always keeping it. Real my

995
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: husband AND i love your podcast and look up to

996
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: you guys as a.

997
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: Couple wishing you guys blessings. Always thank you so much.

998
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 5: For this.

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00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 7: Heavy.

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Speaker 4: Ass, Boundaries, yes.

1001
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 7: Bound my favorite definition of.

1002
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 8: BOUNDARIES a person Named princess Him hill says that boundaries

1003
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 8: are the distance at WHICH i can love you and.

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00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: Myself come on a moment of, troop that's a really say,

1005
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: again boundaries.

1006
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 8: Are the distance at WHICH i can love you and myself.

1007
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 8: Simultaneously and that's what she. Says it's like she's wearing

1008
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 8: this as a badge of honor that she's able to

1009
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 8: take on other people's, problems and yet you're abandoning yourself

1010
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 8: within that by not figuring out where you can go

1011
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 8: with your, burdens or even just to have enough for,

1012
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 8: yourself or where to draw the line.

1013
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: Exactly they say. PERFECT i say the same.

1014
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Thing, absolutely.

1015
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: Boundaries the definition is immaculate because that's.

1016
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: War i'm thinking about how war are you are when

1017
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: you have to listen to everybody else's stress and, traumas

1018
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: and a lot of times you listen to it and

1019
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: they're not going to change their. Circumstances how many times

1020
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: have you given advice to a friend or a family

1021
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: member and they come for the advice and then don't

1022
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: take the, advice and then they come back with the

1023
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: same recurring problem and it's just, like at this point

1024
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: you just want to not and then we fall out because.

1025
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 7: Now i'm, like, well you ain't gonna leave, Them SO

1026
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 7: i don't know why you keep telling me.

1027
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: EXACTLY i love. It, no that's.

1028
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: Awesome the one THING i will say is that she

1029
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: she also has to be.

1030
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: Honest you can create, boundaries but also be, honest, right

1031
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: and when that person's coming to, you it's okay to be,

1032
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: like you, Know i'm going through something, too the same

1033
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: way that person came to.

1034
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: You it is on you to go to people you can't,

1035
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: say how come no one ask? Me did you ask that?

1036
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: Person more than likely she didn't. Ask that person just.

1037
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: Came so it's also you understand and, like you know,

1038
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: WHAT i have a lot on. Me let me find

1039
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: the person THAT i can go.

1040
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: To Right you need to find your own safe, space

1041
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: wherever that, is whoever that might, be because these people

1042
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: coming to you may not be someone you want to

1043
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: reciprocate that kind of conversation with and then pour out

1044
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: your heart. Too you got to find your own safe.

1045
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Space you know WHAT i, realized y'all over these last couple, podcasts,

1046
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: bro we all as people have a lot of work to,

1047
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: do and that work has to happen.

1048
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: Daily oh for.

1049
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Sure you, know even if we're talking about other, people

1050
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about how to help this, person we're talking

1051
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: About hot three, sixty it always comes back, to you know,

1052
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: WHAT i got some THINGS i need to fix about, Myself.

1053
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: Solf you know What i'm, Saying and it's becoming a constant.

1054
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: TREND i think this season is about like the overarching

1055
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: Topic i'm seeing is like self. Awareness so far, Right,

1056
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: yeah and just being mindful of like how you're showing

1057
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: up in, spaces how you're showing up for, yourself for

1058
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: your you, know, family and.

1059
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: How often we, project like we see issues in ourselves

1060
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: and we often project those issues on other people.

1061
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: Where realizing like a lot of people don't Blame, yeah

1062
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 4: we don't do it on, purpose but we all do.

1063
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: That and this is an example because she sounds like

1064
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: a person that really cares a lot about, people but

1065
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: she also doesn't realize that you're not allowing people to

1066
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: care for, you and now you're blaming them for you

1067
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: not going to them and saying you.

1068
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: Have issues and it's always easier to take to, give, Right,

1069
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: yeah that's really. True, well good luck to.

1070
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: You don't let them.

1071
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: Loose don't let them allow you to lose that spirit

1072
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: you have about you, though because that's genuinely who you

1073
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: are and that's your.

1074
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: Heart SO i hope you find your safe space and

1075
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: create those. BOUNDARIES i like.

1076
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: That quote, Though, yeah the safe space SO i can

1077
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: love you and myself at the same. Time that's a.

1078
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: BOUNDARY i think that's gonna be my moment of truth

1079
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Speaker 4: for So i'm gonna steal it. Later i'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: steal it now because triple.

1081
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Speaker 2: Just do that on the boundary to a boundary of.

1082
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Speaker 4: Boundary so coming, TOMORROW i thought of.

1083
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Speaker 2: Something The deva draws a diagram for.

1084
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Speaker 4: Everything i'm.

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Speaker 3: Boundary if you want to be featured as one of

1086
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: our listener, letters y'all email us at The Ellis advice

1087
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: at gmail dot.

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Speaker 4: Com that's t H E E l L I S

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Speaker 4: a D V I C E i gmail dot.

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Speaker 3: Com all, right moment of truth. Time we're talking about's.

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Speaker 5: Having the same name every time you spell out spell

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Speaker 5: my name.

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Speaker 4: Every TIME i, say let's Go ellis And. Mags i'm right, here,

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Speaker 4: man let's. Go that's, Right Hey lis, Too i'll memever.

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Speaker 4: FORGET i was talking about the Little.

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Speaker 2: Ellis's several of them rolling around.

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Speaker 4: HERE i, said K, Ellis my mom is K, ellis

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Speaker 4: his wife is K.

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Speaker 2: Ellis it was the cutest.

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Speaker 3: Thing matt's wife was Over christa And deval's mom was in,

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Speaker 3: town and the three of us were sitting at the

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Speaker 3: kitchen table just chatting.

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Speaker 2: Over a bottle of wine and we were, like oh my,

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Speaker 2: god it's like a K ellis, convention a K ellis.

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Speaker 4: Kickback you have to tell them what you were talking. About, well, well.

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Speaker 2: There were several, things.

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Speaker 4: Several, things but my mom talking about female stuff to.

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Speaker 3: My right AS i entered, perimenopause, menopause things like, That

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Speaker 3: and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just crazy to me That i'm, like, yo your mom

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Speaker 1: may't talked to you about, that and she's like, No

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Speaker 1: And i'm, like that's crazy that my mom is talking

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Speaker 1: to you about.

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Speaker 4: That but it's also a good.

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Speaker 6: Thing.

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Speaker 4: Yo my mom's talking, like she was giving.

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Speaker 2: Me some things THAT i was, Like oh, FIRST i was,

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Speaker 2: like BUT.

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Speaker 4: I was, like, oh, Okay i'm GLAD i ain't walking in.

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Speaker 3: That it was great Because i'm just, like this is

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Speaker 3: candor THAT i need, Sometimes like my mom is not

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Speaker 3: as candid with things like this because she kind of

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Speaker 3: sees it as, EMBARRASSING i, think or, taboo whereas the

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Speaker 3: ows mom were, like listen to, you this is what it,

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Speaker 3: is let me tell. You So i'm happy to have both,

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Speaker 3: media you, know yod, spaces.

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Speaker 4: Realize HOW i am the WAY i.

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Speaker 1: Am my mom is, candid says exactly what's on her,

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Speaker 1: mind and my dad all he does is, joke. Right

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Speaker 1: and the other night it was in there talking AND

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Speaker 1: i was just, like, yo THIS i see HOW i,

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Speaker 1: am exactly WHERE i.

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Speaker 9: Am i'm gonna, say if she got something to, say

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Speaker 9: you're gonna say. It my father sitting the room and

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Speaker 9: just stare at, you and you're gonna, Know you're gonna

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Speaker 9: know exactly what he meant to, say but he's just

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Speaker 9: gonna look at.

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Speaker 2: You that's literally. Mad that's your. Expression but also when

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Speaker 2: you have something to, say this.

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Speaker 10: Is why it takes a village you find. That that's

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Speaker 10: what that you are. Exactly UNFORTUNATELY.

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Speaker 4: I already know. YOU i don't even got to ask.

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Speaker 4: You you are definitely me me And. Pops and this

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Speaker 4: you walk heavy like me me though because you both

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Speaker 4: got bumpers back. There this is be like. Yours how

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Speaker 4: about your triple, you your mom and your.

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Speaker 7: Dad, ABSOLUTELY i love.

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Speaker 3: THAT i love that all, right moment of true. TIME

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Speaker 3: i think mine is. Simple the topic today was the artist's,

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Speaker 3: way and it's exactly. That the artist's apostrophe s is

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Speaker 3: possession and it's your. Way that's WHY i said in the,

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Speaker 3: beginning it's my. Way do not stray from your.

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Speaker 2: Way it'll make a way for.

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Speaker 7: You for everyone that can't see deval was clocking that

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Speaker 7: tea period.

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Speaker 4: Period it's two, different it's.

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Speaker 2: Different SO i learned.

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Speaker 4: Day i'm, LIKE i know What i'm talking about BECAUSE

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Speaker 4: k had to tell, me BECAUSE i, like what the

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Speaker 4: fuck is?

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Speaker 1: This it's, like when you clock it like, this that

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Speaker 1: means that they said something that you agree, with right

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Speaker 1: boom boom. Boom if you clock it in the, middle

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Speaker 1: that means that they're wearing something that's, like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's too different with the right.

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Speaker 2: Fingers now, Listen that's WHAT i saw in one.

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Speaker 3: Video there could be also variations of, it BUT i

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Speaker 3: saw in one video made that that would with.

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Speaker 10: It i'm going home to terrorize my daughter BECAUSE i.

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Speaker 8: Feel like the l g b T q A i

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Speaker 8: started this very women tell us have co opted queer

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Speaker 8: black queer language and then act like it means something

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Speaker 8: that it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Mean to give us the four one clock.

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Speaker 8: It with with your middle fingers always been an. Applause

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Speaker 8: it comes from the ballroom and the ball, scene and

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Speaker 8: whether it's a, look it's usually a look because they

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Speaker 8: don't speak a lot in the ball, scene so you're.

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Speaker 7: That's where it comes.

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Speaker 8: From now because people l G b T q people

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Speaker 8: were telling them that the first finger is the wrong.

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Speaker 8: Finger now they're, like, oh this means something else, now like.

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Speaker 8: Evolving i'll take.

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Speaker 7: That i'll take.

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Speaker 4: That it's.

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Speaker 7: Evolving appropriation in the race either.

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Speaker 10: Way appropriation within the race is, creepy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah because you, know black queer men especially aren't always

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Speaker 8: welcome in certain. Spaces so if you're gonna take their,

1191
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Speaker 8: ship you need to get damn credit.

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Speaker 2: Acknowledge i'm here for that.

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Speaker 1: Is the straight black women do take a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff from queer black men and then have.

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Speaker 4: The nerve to be.

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Speaker 7: Transphobic you know What i'm. Saying they don't want. To

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Speaker 7: don't get me.

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Speaker 4: Started.

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Speaker 2: CLOCK i love it all, right moment of? Truth who

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Speaker 2: else had?

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Speaker 5: ONE i don't. Know i'm gonna follow that. Up that

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Speaker 5: Was that was?

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Speaker 10: Good that was.

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Speaker 11: GOOD i would only say my moment of truth is

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Speaker 11: that being being an artist isn't for public consumption. Only

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Speaker 11: there's some art feels that that that are for, It

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Speaker 11: but your first audience is yourself and you should be

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 11: happy and content with that audience first before you present

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Speaker 11: it to the.

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Speaker 2: WORLD i love.

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Speaker 8: THAT i think being creative starts with, gratitude having gratitude

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00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 8: for the great creation that we live in the people around,

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00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 8: us the, stars the, trees.

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Speaker 7: Nature, yeah go outside and look at something and love.

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Speaker 2: That that's a good.

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Speaker 4: One it's gonna be good to go.

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Speaker 3: Attitude she was, like, well have an attitude for your

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Speaker 3: atitude creditude.

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Speaker 4: Properly i'm not gonna try to beat that one or that.

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Speaker 1: One ALL i will say is suppressing your your artistic

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Speaker 1: nature is like suppressing your individuality.

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: And being an.

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Speaker 2: Individually don't be scared to BE i.

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Speaker 5: Thought he was gonna, say you said, Already.

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Speaker 4: I'm saving that for the.

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Speaker 1: Episode i'm stealing that so that when they so that

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Speaker 1: they won't even hear him say, it SO i could

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Speaker 1: sound smarter BEFORE i stole it in the same. Episode

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Speaker 1: they're gonna KNOW i stole. IT i stole From triple

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Speaker 1: That i'm using for the next. One, josh, DEFINITELY i

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Speaker 1: got like three.

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Speaker 2: Moments of truth your columbusing People's, uh.

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Speaker 4: It's my. House this was definitely discovered his. MIND i

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Speaker 4: own it what they, SAID i own. IT i own. It, sorry,

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Speaker 4: Guys josh, Speak i'm gonna be like it'd be like this.

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Speaker 5: PROFOUND i love.

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Speaker 2: It taking Notes.

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Speaker 3: Josh find us On patreon and join the. Party, honey

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