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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody, John Middlecoff Free and Out Podcasts

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Speaker 1: We're close to football. I got a lot coming up

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Speaker 1: today on the rule changes, on Josh Allen, who looks

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Speaker 1: been just freaking out on recently are the NFL rules

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Speaker 1: and the rule changes to hitting. You know where you

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Speaker 1: have to put your head. Everyone's getting flagged for what

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Speaker 1: looks to be just a basic football tackle. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: in the NFL or peewee football. You just your head

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Speaker 1: is before your shoulders and it's basically impossible, even if

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Speaker 1: you keep your head up, to avoid leading with your helmet.

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Speaker 1: So I get why players are freaking out, get why

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Speaker 1: social media freaks out. I also blame myself. I I

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Speaker 1: freak out, but I think everyone is in the smart

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Speaker 1: people are not freaking out. They understand what's coming, and

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Speaker 1: they adapt. And you see this all the time when

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Speaker 1: something crazy happens. And I wouldn't say this is crazy

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Speaker 1: because there has been a gradual change. This is business.

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Speaker 1: The NFL was getting crushed in lawsuits. They were spending

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Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money. Parents were and still are,

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Speaker 1: I think in certain areas of the country, not allowing

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Speaker 1: their children to play football. It was a major, big

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Speaker 1: picture business problem for the NFL. They had to adapt,

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Speaker 1: and they've attempted to. Now it pisses a lot of

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Speaker 1: us off, including myself. I like violence. I've seen the

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Speaker 1: numbers on NFL football games over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: Seattle San Francisco is one of the highest rated games

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Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League. You like violence.

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Speaker 1: We all like violence. People yearn for violence. We are

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Speaker 1: entertained by violence. So I want my football to be violent.

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Speaker 1: But if I ran a team, I would dramatically adapt,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully I would adapted years ago. And you see

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Speaker 1: this all the time, And anyone that's read any finance

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Speaker 1: books knows I've never really had any money when a

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Speaker 1: recession hits. Last time a recession hit, I was a

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Speaker 1: graduate assist at Frison State in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: But since then, I've tried to do a decent job

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Speaker 1: on anyone that's accumulated any type of money or wealth

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Speaker 1: will tell you the best time to buy anything is

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Speaker 1: during a recession. It is the cheapest time to accumulate assets,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a home, whether it's a business, what, whether

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Speaker 1: it's whatever, it is bargain shopping for rich people. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: you don't even need that rich, just people that have

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Speaker 1: and then freak out when times report. As business people

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Speaker 1: other business when there is a cheap sale, people run

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Speaker 1: and the smart teams have adapted and have realized, you

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Speaker 1: know what, let's let's invest less on defense, let's invest

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Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, not just because he never shuts up

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Speaker 1: saying bless him, because he can't be covered. Well, think

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry does sketch about four hundred balls through four years.

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Speaker 1: And in this modern day NFL, he is a major asset.

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Speaker 1: In this modern day NFL, hard hitting safeties are irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: They're not worth any type money. And I think so

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Speaker 1: many times, and people in the league I know get

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Speaker 1: Padding his bullpen, Billy Bean will whatever whichever way the

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is going. He's always two steps ahead.

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Speaker 1: So when I think you've seen Bill Belichick has utilized

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Speaker 1: His team consistently scores a lot of points. They out

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Speaker 1: same thing, and in a perfect world when the recession hits,

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Speaker 1: But it's just a natural human reaction to be mad

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Speaker 1: when bad things happen, when things go the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: And for a lot of NFL people, including myself just

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Speaker 1: as a fan, these rules have pissed me off. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I should start looking atting it differently. Like the hell,

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Speaker 1: You ain't covering us because, first off, the rules don't

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants a quarterback. Of course, it's a quarterback league,

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, they're best players, were not conducive to as

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons developed a defense that was all on

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Speaker 1: bet right now, is Josh Allen gonna be good or

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Speaker 1: is it gonna be bad? I clearly forever would have

429
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Speaker 1: put it on bad right now, I think I changed

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Speaker 1: my my bed. And I know Collins says this all

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Speaker 1: the time, and it's it's the wisest words I've ever

432
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Speaker 1: heard in radio, Like his opinion should be fluid. What

433
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Speaker 1: we're talking about sports, we get information. If I get

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Speaker 1: information that I was wrong on Josh Allen and he's sweet,

435
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Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to change. You know, some players they're

436
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Speaker 1: well established, like our opinions aren't changing, Aaron Rodgers, Kevin Durant,

437
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: you know whoever. They're just established. Young players are fluid.

438
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Speaker 1: You know when you're talking about twenty three years old

439
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Speaker 1: that there are a lot of variables at play, and

440
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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about small school players. It's it's

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Speaker 1: why most scouts and gms do like they'd rather recruit

442
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Speaker 1: the Josh Allen version from Clemson or USC than half

443
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Speaker 1: two men mess with the smaller school because there's so

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Speaker 1: much unknown. Uh. And I'll be honest, I feel like

445
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: I might look like an idiot on Josh Allen and

446
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL Draft Twitter is, But I'll be honest,

447
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't think most of the NFL Draft Twitter knows

448
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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. They told me Teddy Bridgewater was

449
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, and then they told me

450
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was sweet. So I don't put that much

451
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Speaker 1: credence in it, but I do think usually with these things,

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the group think. But I I was

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Speaker 1: with everyone, like, I was like, yeah, I wouldn't touch

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Uh, and so was everyone. And there were

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Speaker 1: very very small, you know, small amount of people that

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Speaker 1: were banging the drum on the hill. And I right now,

457
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Speaker 1: if I was a betting man, I think they're gonna

458
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Speaker 1: look pretty smart because to me, Josh Allen, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever be Paul George became

460
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Speaker 1: an elite player, but I'll say this, I think Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's got a chance to be a pretty good NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if everyone had to watch this, because

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Speaker 1: I don't blame people for watching, uh not that much

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Speaker 1: preseason games. I was at a wedding last weekend and

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Speaker 1: when the Niner came came on live, I was the

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Speaker 1: wedding was going on, but I had a chance when

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Speaker 1: I was getting ready to watch the Raider the Rams game,

468
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Speaker 1: and there their planned Week one. I think one total

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Speaker 1: starter between the two teams played, and it was like,

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Speaker 1: it's a joke. I flipped it off, and I naturally

471
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Speaker 1: most people like, god, you must love the third and

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter now, unless you have a rookie quarterback in that,

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Speaker 1: I want to watch. I turned the television. I'm not what.

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Speaker 1: I hated that when I worked in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: can't stand it, and you know I hated even more now.

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Speaker 1: But I will watch when your starters are in because

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Speaker 1: basically an NFL game. So I flipped on the Texans

478
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Speaker 1: and the forty Niners. Obviously want to see how Jimmy played. Also,

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Speaker 1: just Sean, it's just a good game. Sean looked awesome.

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Speaker 1: He's an excellent I mean, he's he's big time. That's

481
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Speaker 1: gonna haunt maybe Chicago Bears and Ryan Pace for a

482
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Speaker 1: long time. But Jimmy Garoppolo and listen, I'm a little

483
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Speaker 1: bit of a conspiracy theorists on this. I know lots

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Speaker 1: come out in the last year. I truly believe that,

485
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Speaker 1: uh you know, it's kind of the you know JFK type,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, Chap acquitted Ted Kennedy type conspiracy theory, and

487
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Speaker 1: one of the great ones we've had in recent memory.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL with Belichick, Brady and Garoppolo, and I

489
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Speaker 1: truly believe in my core. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: will ever come out or we'll ever get all the

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Speaker 1: details that Brady went behind Belichick back and forced the

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Speaker 1: Hoodie to get rid of them, because Brady knew deep

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Speaker 1: down that Belichick's resume speaks for itself. He gets rid

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Speaker 1: of everyone. Now, it's obviously a lot harder to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Tom. But there was a time clock on

496
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Speaker 1: this because Jimmy was going to be a free agent,

497
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Speaker 1: and Belichick never ever doesn't get value for guys. So

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Speaker 1: if he had been planning on trading Jimmy, he would

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Speaker 1: have traded him the year before. He wouldn't have waited

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Speaker 1: to the last minute when his value wasn't that great

501
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Speaker 1: because he was about to be a free agent. So

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Speaker 1: in my gut, to my core, always believe this, whether

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Speaker 1: I'm right or wrong. And unless Bill Belichick, he'd probably

504
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Speaker 1: be the only guy because I wouldn't believe Kraft or

505
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Speaker 1: Brady if Bill told me that this is just what

506
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Speaker 1: you know. If we were having beers and we were

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Speaker 1: friends and I could trust them, Uh not that that

508
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Speaker 1: will probably ever happen. And he told me that that

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. Then I would say, Okay, maybe I'm wrong

510
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Speaker 1: that Brady went behind his back and forced Jimmy out

511
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Speaker 1: of there, because it just made no sense. I think

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Speaker 1: Bill had up in his mind that he was gonna

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Speaker 1: trade Brady this offseason, you know, unless they won the

514
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and then he just deal with it. But

515
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Speaker 1: I I think he was poised to trade Brady. Brady

516
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Speaker 1: knew it and made him get rid of Garoppolo. Why

517
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Speaker 1: because Bill Belichick had his Steve Young And the thing is,

518
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Speaker 1: it's a little different than you know, Joe Montana. I

519
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: was so young when that situation played out, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you watch highlights and YouTube and anyone older listening to

521
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Speaker 1: this podcast that lived it. I mean they would like

522
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Speaker 1: split reps in games and one guy would play a

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Speaker 1: quarter or one guy would start for a couple of

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Speaker 1: games and flip flop. It was nothing. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't You wouldn't even be able to do that now

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Speaker 1: with a player if Joe Montana's level, It just it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be possible in this day and age. But one reason,

528
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Speaker 1: and growing up in Northern California, I grew up more

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Speaker 1: much more on Steve Young than Joe Montana because I

530
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Speaker 1: was born, so when I was alive, Steve Young was

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Speaker 1: kicking ass and taking names with forty Niners. But the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners dynasty and just dominance in the league, even

533
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Speaker 1: though Steve only officially won one Super Bowl, but they

534
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Speaker 1: kept winning for ten plus years when he was the starter,

535
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Speaker 1: kept going because of him. And I think the New

536
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Speaker 1: England Patriots the end is in sight. Brady's forty one

537
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Speaker 1: years old. Now. I don't think he's gonna fall off

538
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Speaker 1: a cliff like Peyton Manning did physically because his arms

539
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Speaker 1: still in great strength and he looks fantastic, but he's

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Speaker 1: just bound to get hurt. He again, let me repeat,

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Speaker 1: he's forty one years old. I remember four or five

542
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Speaker 1: years ago, before Kobe's body just just took a crap

543
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: on him, most people thought, you know what, Cobe is

544
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to play at least in his early forties.

545
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Speaker 1: Why because he's a good jump shooter and he'll eventually

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Speaker 1: be able to become a role player. Now, really, when

547
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Speaker 1: you take a step back, say that out loud, Kobe Bryant,

548
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: you become a role player. Probably wasn't realistic. But it

549
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: was in theory, it made a lot of sense. He

550
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Speaker 1: could really and then it just ended. I think it

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Speaker 1: kind of happened with Peyton Manning. All of a sudden,

552
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Speaker 1: it was like, whoa, it's over. I don't necessarily think

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00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen with Brady, but eventually, whether that's this year,

554
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: whether it's it's just gonna end, but for a bad injury,

555
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's going to happen. In the history the league,

556
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: it always happens that way, and they would have been equipped. Really,

557
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: they would have been equipped this offseason. The trade Brady,

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00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: it would have been one of the crazier trades that

559
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: ever happened. But again, Joe Montana was once traded. Now

560
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Speaker 1: he wasn't playing at the level of Tom Brady, and

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriot dynasty would have lasted for another

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Speaker 1: ten years. Because I got news for everyone, like throw

563
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Speaker 1: on the first two drives at the Houston Texans game.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the preseason, but all the stars were in.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He is a superstar. The only thing, and let me repeat,

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Speaker 1: the only thing that's gonna get in his way of

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Speaker 1: becoming a star in this league. A star in this

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Speaker 1: league is health, because if he stays healthy, he's going

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Speaker 1: to dominate. I also got news for everyone, and everyone

571
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: has been blowing the rams for the last you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve months. I've hesitated a little. I think the roster

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Speaker 1: is really good on paper, and I like this guy.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I root for this guy. I

575
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: grew up going to cow football games. If you go

576
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: to play football or basketball at CAW, I root for you.

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00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: It's just a natural reaction in my body. So I

578
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: am a Jared Goff fan. Met him a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: I just root for people from northern California in general,

580
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: let alone if you go to cal But him and

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00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo aren't even in the same conversation as players,

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00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Jared's gonna have because Jimmy

583
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: is a much better athlete ever have the physical attributes

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Speaker 1: to be as good as Jimmy. Now, Jimmy's not as

585
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Speaker 1: good as Russell Wilson yet, but I think he has

586
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Speaker 1: that level to be that, you know, on that tier again,

587
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Speaker 1: a top five player. This is what Belichick had. Belichick

588
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: knew it and just gave him away to Kyle Shanaham.

589
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think, and I was thinking this when I

590
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: because again I was at the wedding and I couldn't

591
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: watch the game, and I just flip it on my

592
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Speaker 1: computer and I'm watching this drive, thinking, oh my god,

593
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Speaker 1: how did they get this guy? This is insane. You know,

594
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Speaker 1: typically when a guy like that is moved, it's usually

595
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Speaker 1: like a Matt Shob you know, a backup that was behind,

596
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Speaker 1: you know, a good starter like a Mike Vick or

597
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: whatever has some ability Kevin Cobb, but really he was

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Speaker 1: a backup for a reason, Like there was one reason

599
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo was the backup. The starter was Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He would have started in like twenty eight different places.

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Speaker 1: He is so freaking good. And I feel very very

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Speaker 1: confident saying this, like it's just wild how good he is.

603
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Like there was no question the Niners did not overpay

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Speaker 1: like they paid. If anything, the underpaid because if he

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Speaker 1: would have been a free agent, if he would actually

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00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: hit the market, and like Kirk Cousins, had multiple people

607
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: bidding on his services, he would have got more money

608
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Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins. He is a better player than Kirk Cousins.

609
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: The best thing that ever happened to Kyle Shanahan was that,

610
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: again my conspiracy theory, Brady went behind Belichick's back forced

611
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Craft to trade him. Belichick just piste Off likes, really

612
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: likes Kyle for I mean, not for some reason. Bill

613
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: just really respects Kyle, because Bill really liked Kyle's dad, Mike.

614
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Mike used to give him trouble in the playoffs, and

615
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: then I think obviously they played in the super Bowl

616
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: and the was like, God, this guy can really coach

617
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Speaker 1: the four And Niners don't like to admit it, but

618
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I got news for him as fact, gifted the four

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Speaker 1: D nine Ers Jimmy Garoppolo for a second for a

620
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Speaker 1: second round pick. And even Kyle has admitted he was

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Speaker 1: a little hesitant because he was schmitten over Kirk Cousins

622
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Speaker 1: and John Lynch and Adam Peter, some the guys in

623
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: the organization I think kind of talked him out of

624
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: it and ultimately made the right decision for the big

625
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: picture football team. And even once they got him, he

626
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: was hesitant to kind of throw him in. And in fairness,

627
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: hard offense to learn. Even Matt Ryan says it takes

628
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: a while Jimmy came in not only learned enough of

629
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: the offense, took a one in nine team, now granted,

630
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: is one of the better one in nine teams that

631
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: we've seen in recent memory. They lost like six of

632
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: the nine games by under four points, but still they

633
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: were one and nine. Parcel's famous line yard what Dirrector says,

634
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: you are they were? They earned that one at nine

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: and then won the last five games. Like this guy,

636
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: I sometimes I just take a step back and go,

637
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. I mean, this

638
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: is wild, you know, in my compass And he had

639
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: to throw to Marque's good one down the sideline and

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Speaker 1: it looked exactly like him. Tony Romo in two thousand

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Speaker 1: fourteen was a second team All Pro. It was his

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Speaker 1: best season as a NFL football players. Unreal, remember the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys really good. I think that was the year that

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Speaker 1: Dez might have dropped the ball. I mean didn't drop

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Speaker 1: the ball, the ball hit the ground and the stupid rule.

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Speaker 1: But Tony Romo and Tony Romo's prime was excellent. I

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Speaker 1: know he had some terrible losses, but he was a really,

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Speaker 1: really good player. I think Jimmy Garoppolo my compy. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo is gonna be a better version and have a

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Speaker 1: similar style to what Tony Romo was. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of that has to do was he's just in a

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Speaker 1: better situation in terms with an offensive mind like Kyle

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Speaker 1: and him is the perfect scenario. Sometimes people are just lucky,

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Speaker 1: you know, Steve Young, Bill Walsh wanted him, you know,

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Speaker 1: when no one really else did, and it just changed

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Speaker 1: the dynamic of his career. Bill Belichick could have traded

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo basically, anyone you know could have traded him

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns. Jimmy wasn't in control roll of that. Now.

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Speaker 1: He would have been a free agent, but the NFL

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Speaker 1: ain't the NBA. They got this thing called the franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: He would have been stuck and said he got gifted

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Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch has turned out to

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Speaker 1: be a really good GM, just a high level guy

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Speaker 1: and just an organization that's kind of got their ship

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Speaker 1: together now. And you know, not just again. They're not

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland San Francisco forty Niners that I don't get

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Speaker 1: it twisted. They are the biggest brand on the West coast,

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Speaker 1: aim close that there really is a NY competition now

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Speaker 1: granted the Northeast with the NFC East and the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, the Cowboys are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of America, but they're in that division are the most

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Speaker 1: important for the TV properties. But there's a reason the

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Speaker 1: moment the nine are sniff being relevant. The NFL gives

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Speaker 1: him five national television games. They move the needle. So

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Speaker 1: it's just I don't even know what to say. Beside

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Speaker 1: it's just crazy the way it all played out. And

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Speaker 1: if you're still questioning why they gave him all that money,

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Speaker 1: don't because the kid is he's forty nine or Steve Young.

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Speaker 1: Even though they didn't have a Joe Montana, they had

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. Okay, let's get in uh to what I

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Speaker 1: like to say is my favorite segment of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Mitchell Cough mail Bag Middlecoff mail Bag. UH. If

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Speaker 1: you go to iTunes, subscribe rate in the review section

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Speaker 1: leaving your questions. You can also slide up into my

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Speaker 1: d m s on Instagram at John Middlecoff and I

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Speaker 1: will answer those for you during this session. I only

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Speaker 1: got a couple more on iTunes, so keep coming in.

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Speaker 1: You can also go on on Instagram. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of you guys like doing that. So let's uh,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the first question here, see if I

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Speaker 1: can find Okay, two parter. I've been a Bears fan

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Speaker 1: since I was a kid, a long time ago. I

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Speaker 1: know you have a history of Matt n Aggie. You

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Speaker 1: have any insight into what you foresee for the first year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me answer that first part and then I'll answer

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Speaker 1: the second part. I mean, no insight beside what we've seen.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Naggie is an excellent coach. I think

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Speaker 1: he has an excellent coaching staff. The divisions really hard,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's just gonna be difficult. I actually liked

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Speaker 1: Mr Rabinsky a lot as an NFL prospect. I didn't

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Speaker 1: love him at number two overall, but I definitely thought

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Speaker 1: he was a first rounder. And if he had gone

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Speaker 1: back to school and had another year like he did,

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Speaker 1: you know in his one year starting, you know, he

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Speaker 1: probably would have been a top ten pick. It's just

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Speaker 1: it was just a very very bold move. But they

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Speaker 1: do have now have an offensive coach that has a

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Speaker 1: very good understanding of how to intermix a lot of

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Speaker 1: college concepts. I mean let's let's face it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is there is there a better quarterback coach than Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid in the NFL? And Matt Nagee has been his

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Speaker 1: right hand man and just learned, really had a front

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Speaker 1: row seat, you know, for the last eight nine years,

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Speaker 1: so I think. And Matt Nagee is a quarterback at heart,

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Speaker 1: played in college, played in the a f L for

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Speaker 1: a long time, you know, won a couple of a

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Speaker 1: f L championships. He's just a quarter back, like he

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Speaker 1: thinks like a quarterback. So I I think Mitch's couldn't

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Speaker 1: ask for a better situation to get an offensive coach

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Speaker 1: that thinks like a quarterback, learned under Andy Reid and

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Speaker 1: just understand understands how to you know, mixed scheme to

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Speaker 1: help his his offense as an offensive personnel and specifically

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Speaker 1: his quarterback excel. Let's get to the second part and second,

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Speaker 1: why is it that people talk about pass rushers, they

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Speaker 1: seem to forget about a beast named Joey Bosa. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think that is? I think it probably hurts

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Speaker 1: that he plays for the San Diego Chargers. I know

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Speaker 1: they're in Los Angeles, but I refused to call him

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. You know, they're they're pretty irrelevant

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Speaker 1: in southern California. They've kind of flopped in a in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of big games. That's not Joey's fault. But

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Speaker 1: if you put Joey Bosa, you know, on the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers, on the Cowboys, just the Saints, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just any major team, I think we would put on

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Speaker 1: the Rams. He would definitely be talked about more he

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Speaker 1: was probably which this is pretty crazy because he was

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Speaker 1: drafted in the top five. More famous in college at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Ohio State's much more popular and I would

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Speaker 1: imagine has way more fans, not even close than the

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Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. I mean, I don't know how the

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Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers again, I know they're in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: are gonna function in l a. Uh, They're a tenant

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Speaker 1: for cron Key. They just have no fans. I got

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Speaker 1: the Dodger game on in the background right now. I

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Speaker 1: mean the obviously it's a it's a Laker town, it's

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Speaker 1: a usc football town, it's a Dodger town. They're learning

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Speaker 1: to like the Rams. I think Chip Kelly and the

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Speaker 1: u c l A. Bruins, which are not nearly as

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Speaker 1: big as the USC Trojans are so much bigger than

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. I don't know, man, I I just don't

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Speaker 1: see it. I mean, I live in a two team

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Speaker 1: market for the time being, and if the Raiders would

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Speaker 1: have had the financial means, they could have hung here

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Speaker 1: like theyre are enough Raider fans. Football is big enough here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I just can't ever see anyone given a ship about

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Speaker 1: the charters to be honest with you. So I think that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the big issues with Joey Bosa. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's get to this question. What if Jerry Jones was

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hassel. I like where this is going. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: that if Jerry Jones was the CEO of a company

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Speaker 1: in which more than a dozen employees were convicted of

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Speaker 1: conspiracy to commit fraud, that scandal would have led national news.

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Speaker 1: I'd agree, Uh, definitely would have been a top two

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Speaker 1: or three news you know subject. I'm not saying Brown's

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Speaker 1: owner Jimmy HASLM knew of it, not saying he's a criminal,

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Speaker 1: but between his oversight of Flying j and his meddling

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Speaker 1: involves football, he's not the guy I want to own

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Speaker 1: my team. To create a culture of success. I'd agree.

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Speaker 1: Then I heard Mike Lombardi say that he was the

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Speaker 1: Browns GM and didn't have any control over personnel. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad I'm not a brown fan. How is Jimmy hasm

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Speaker 1: viewed around the league? I think he's viewed around the

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Speaker 1: league like exactly you described him, not necessarily a criminal,

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Speaker 1: but just a kind of a clown. I think the

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Speaker 1: spying Jay thing is like, how did that just get

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Speaker 1: washed away? I mean, we know how it got washed away.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy haslum has unlimited money. When you have unlimited money,

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Speaker 1: you can pay people to keep their mouth shut. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that really bothers me about the you know,

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Speaker 1: I forget a lot about it, but I read a

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Speaker 1: lot about it originally, is they kind of screwed the

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Speaker 1: working man. You know, they screwed the truck drivers. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty from They committed white collar crimes. And to me, like, obviously, murderers, pedophiles,

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Speaker 1: rapists are the worst. I mean, they're just they discussed everyone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, one people beside rapist, murderers or pedophiles all

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Speaker 1: agree that those are the lowest levels of some of

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Speaker 1: the earth. But to me, the Bernie Madoff level guys

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Speaker 1: and whoever was in charge of this at Flying Jay

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Speaker 1: that that screw rue over the working man that are

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Speaker 1: multimillionaires there, there are pretty much the scum of the

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Speaker 1: earth as well. And when you when you read into

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Speaker 1: Flying j like it was a pass down throughout his family.

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Speaker 1: Uh the I don't know if something about the haslums,

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Speaker 1: like they've pulled this off in the South created this

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Speaker 1: dynasty of wealth, like would that I live in the

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Speaker 1: in California, Like could they pull it off out here?

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Speaker 1: Doubt it. I don't think so. I've never thought Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Haslm was that impressive. I actually always thought Jimmy Haslm

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Speaker 1: was kind of a clown. Uh born into his wealth.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he started the Flying j from from scratch.

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Speaker 1: I I would agree like to meet Jerry Jones and listen,

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Speaker 1: in business, you have to do shady stuff to make success.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that's been pretty consistent with Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 1: like he's a tough businessman to deal with. But I've

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Speaker 1: never ever got the vibe and did no one's ever

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Speaker 1: come out that he's like out to screw the common guy.

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Speaker 1: And I've honestly never looked at Jimmy Haslim the same. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I just he I find it despicable that he even

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Speaker 1: potentially listen. When you're the CEO of the company, you

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Speaker 1: run the company, you own the company, it's on your watch.

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Speaker 1: It's like if something happens to do a football team

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Speaker 1: like that's on the head coach. Like, I'm sorry if

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Speaker 1: Jimmy has them, didn't I always struggle with now, he

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Speaker 1: might not have known every detail anyone that's known people

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Speaker 1: that ran companies, hell smaller companies. Things go on that

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Speaker 1: you don't know about. I get it, but this one

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, I find it pretty hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: I think Jimmy has them is just your classic Southern

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Speaker 1: I mean generation of generation where hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars never done a damn thing. Somehow runs Tennessee ball football,

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Speaker 1: tried to run that bad boy in the ground, forced

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Speaker 1: them to get Butch Jones then wanted them to get

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Speaker 1: you know, Greg Sianu that when Urban Meyer got in trouble,

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Speaker 1: they didn't even elevate to become the head coach. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, he I can't imagine being a Browns fan.

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Speaker 1: I I really can't because just having him as the

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Speaker 1: owner would just make me sick. Pretty good. One kind

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Speaker 1: of a unique question Middlecoff mailback submission from Jeff first Off.

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Speaker 1: I like the podcast like here in your takes on

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Speaker 1: industry Insider in the NFL. Here's my question. How important?

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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating question. How important is quote unquote

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Speaker 1: salesmanship when it comes to being a successful personnel guy

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Speaker 1: at any level. I'm a sales professional myself, so I've

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Speaker 1: seen the value in my own industry. If you're an

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Speaker 1: excellent engineer but can't sell your ideas to management, you're

836
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Speaker 1: really not going to be successful as say, an average

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Speaker 1: above average engineer that can sell. I completely agree. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I would say this in my experience in a draft

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Speaker 1: for room, if you want a player or like a player. Obviously,

840
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Speaker 1: if you're not the decision maker, it's not ultimately your decision,

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Speaker 1: but if you could sell and listen, I've seen this.

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Speaker 1: I run podcast, I do things on periscope now, I

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Speaker 1: sell advertisements myself. You gotta hustle, you know when you're

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Speaker 1: I'm selling myself. I've become pretty successful at it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully only sniffing the success that one day come,

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Speaker 1: but it takes energy and effort. The one thing I

847
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Speaker 1: struggled with when I was in the NFL because I

848
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Speaker 1: was so young, is really pounding that I used to

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Speaker 1: remember how he Roseen was like, stand up for your players. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It was hard for me years old to

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Speaker 1: like call out Lewis Riddick or Howie about a player

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Speaker 1: I really liked. It can be intimidating. It's why a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft rooms are led by older people, even

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Speaker 1: if you have a younger draft room, like guys that

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Speaker 1: have been around the league for a while. But from

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Speaker 1: what I witnessed, and Lewis Riddick was really good at this,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson was good at this, but he was wrong

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Speaker 1: on two players. Uh. And I've seen Brett Beach was

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Speaker 1: really good at this. Is they could stand up for

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Speaker 1: the players they believed in and when they really believed

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Speaker 1: in a player, let's just say I'll use an example here,

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Speaker 1: Brett Vach love Fletcher Cox. I also know Brett loves

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Speaker 1: Shady McCoy de Sean Jackson, but I wasn't in the

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Speaker 1: draft room for those. I saw Bretch Brett pounding the

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Speaker 1: table for Fletcher Cox loved him and wouldn't stop talking

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Speaker 1: about him for six months, so eventually you just he

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Speaker 1: just sells you on his energy. And I'm a big believer,

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people listening are in

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Speaker 1: sales jobs, and I would imagine the best way to

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Speaker 1: sell it just by being relentless. If you just asked

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Speaker 1: the same person something over and over and over and over,

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Speaker 1: eventually he'll crack. He might give you yes, but'll at

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Speaker 1: least give you a maybe. Now, Fletcher is probably a

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Speaker 1: bad example because he was semi easier to sell because

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Speaker 1: he was an elite prospect, even if you were on

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Speaker 1: the fence about him, like he was a legit top

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Speaker 1: fifteen player. But ultimately point is then in a draft room,

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Speaker 1: the best guys, I think they really come up, John Dorsey,

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Speaker 1: John Schneider, Brett Veach uh Adam Peters for the Niners,

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Speaker 1: who's John Lynch's right hand guy. They have the conviction

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Speaker 1: because the confident come confidence in their conviction comes from

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Speaker 1: how much work they do, you know, on a player

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Speaker 1: over the years. And I'm just talking draft and they

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Speaker 1: feel confident standing up in a draft room and you know,

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Speaker 1: using the term pounding the table or standing on the table,

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Speaker 1: but really just standing up and saying what they believe in. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: your boss might not always agree with you, it might

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Speaker 1: not always do what you want. But here's the other

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Speaker 1: way that I think, salesman, I'm sure that what you're

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Speaker 1: listening to and what NFL personnel guys that have come

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Speaker 1: up really can make their Hey. When you sell your

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Speaker 1: boss on something and the boss ultimately says no where

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Speaker 1: they go a different direction, but what you sold them on,

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Speaker 1: and in the example of this the NFL, that player

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere else and kicks ass. Well, that happens a

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Speaker 1: lot for personnel guys, so they can go god. You know,

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Speaker 1: later their GM realizes I should start listening to him

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Speaker 1: because he's right the majority of the time. No different

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Speaker 1: of a salesman says we should, we should acquire this business,

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Speaker 1: in this business, and then they blow up. Your boss goes, god,

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Speaker 1: he he was right. And so I think as many

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Speaker 1: times you hit on a player, but often when you

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Speaker 1: sell a player that you don't get, or sell a

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Speaker 1: business that you don't get, and then that becomes, you know,

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Speaker 1: good for someone else, that really opens people's eyes. I

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Speaker 1: honestly think your eyes are open in life much more

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Speaker 1: of the things you don't get and thought about doing

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Speaker 1: than the things that you actually end up doing, because

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Speaker 1: you're obviously whenever you go, you know, think about like

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Speaker 1: that house you didn't buy, Uh, that girl you didn't

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Speaker 1: ask out, whatever, any situation that that job you ended

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Speaker 1: up not interviewing for or declined. You always kind of

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Speaker 1: anyone worth their salt to me, always kind of monitor

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, just forever, even if things go really well,

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Speaker 1: you know, even if you you know, meet your future wife,

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Speaker 1: still kind of creep on that girl you know on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: see like how is she looking? You know, or you

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Speaker 1: out that that company offered you some stock options and

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Speaker 1: then they go public. You're like, damn, I would have

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Speaker 1: been pretty rich, you know, if if we would have

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Speaker 1: drafted so and so in the second round. I pounded

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Speaker 1: the table for Juju Smith. Now he's with the Steelers

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Speaker 1: catching ninety balls a year. So salesmanship is huge. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you can I went to business school, If you

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Speaker 1: could sell, you always have a job. And that's as

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Speaker 1: an NFL scout, that's as an engineer, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: as a CEO of a fort company. And to me,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. I think it's big, but it

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Speaker 1: does separate yourself, at least in pro football. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be right, you know, you gotta know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And if you do, if you're constantly selling the right

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Speaker 1: people that then I think you're gonna be in pretty

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Speaker 1: good shape. Uh. Appreciate everyone listening. I got a bunch

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Speaker 1: more d ms in my Instagram. You can still leave

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Speaker 1: d m s not d ms, but reviews on iTunes

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Speaker 1: and I will eventually get to them. I appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: Football season is right around the corner. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: this bad boy going. Thanks for listening. John Middlecott freeing

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Speaker 1: out the Colin Coward podcast Network