1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of You 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat. I am the host. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: If you are unfamiliar with what Couch Talks is, it 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy Podcast 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: where I answer questions that you guys send to Katherine 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: at You Need Therapy Podcast. Now, with that quick reminder that, 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: as always, this podcast does not serve as a replacement 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: or substitute for any actual mental health services. Now today 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be switching up Couch Talks because I 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: have a story I want to tell. But before we 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: get to that, I have an announcement that you guys 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: might have heard because I just posted about it on Instagram. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: But Friday, at ten am Central, I am going to 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: be releasing a very limited amount of two designs for 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy merch. If you want to buy it, 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: if you want to grab some of it, if you want, 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: if you're interested, you just want to see it, make 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: sure you are on Instagram following at Unique Therapy Podcast 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: ten am Central on Friday, I'm going to post a 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: link to the website where you can order what you want. 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I want you guys to know beforehand. It is a 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: very very small quantity, limited batch, because one, this is 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: just me doing this and I don't have thousands of 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: dollars to invest in March, and I'm still figuring this 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: stuff out, and so this for me is a nice 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: experiment for me to gauge whether you guys want this 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: stuff and how much I enjoy doing it so limited amounts. 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to be producing more, 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: so if you want it, I would just go try 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to get it at this point because it's not guaranteed 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: that I'm going to do this again for a long 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: time or if ever. But I am excited about what 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I have created. It was really fun doing it, at 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: least making the designs, so just know that's happening. Super 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: excited about that. Now for the episode full disclosure. I 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: already recorded this once, but I felt like it was 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: like too jumbled, so I'm doing it to get it's 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the Daylight Savings. It's really thrown me off. I feel 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: like my brain isn't functioning as quickly and well as 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: it usually does, so hopefully we can get through this. 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: But I am going to tell you the story that 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: I teased on Instagram a week or two ago. About 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: the fight that I got in on my honeymoon with 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: somebody else at the resort we were at. I'm doing 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: this for a couple of reasons. One, it just was 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: now it's a funny story to me too, normalizing that 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: everybody can get somewhat triggered and do things that they regret, 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: so offering a little grace and just normalizing those experiences. 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: And Three, because I actually learned something that was really 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: important for me to learn. And I'm not glad that 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: this necessarily happened, but I am glad that I learned 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the lesson, so I wanted to share that with you guys. 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the cliff Notes version, because 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who can tell a story that should take 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: three minutes, but I can tell it in like thirty 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: five minutes, and I say a lot of things that 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: aren't necessary. So I'm gonna try to give to the 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: cliffs Notes version basically what happened one day we were 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: at this resort, which was amazing. I can't wait to 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: go back. I was literally trying to plan a second 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: vacation to go back to that exact resort while we 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: were there, because I just loved it. So much. And 63 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: one of the things I liked about it, which is 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: different from a lot of resorts that I have been to, 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: is that you are not allowed to reserve seats anywhere. 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to reserve cabanas, you're not allowed to 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: reserve pool chairs, nothing. You can reserve dinner reservations, but 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: that's about it. It's first come, first serve, and there's 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: signs everywhere. I saw them as soon as we got there, 70 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: and it gave me this just cigh of relief because 71 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: I've been to resorts where you can do that, and 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: people get up at six am on vacation to go 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: snag their chair, and it just as a bomber, like 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: it feels like something you have to like think, you 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: have to remember, it messes with your sleep, but just 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: is an extra anxiety that's not necessary. And I really 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: appreciated that. So we could just get out there when 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: we got out there. And also it's nice because if 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I get out there at nine am and you don't 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: get there till one but you reserved a seat, like 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of a bummer that nobody gets to utilize 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: that space just because you want it for two hours 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: later in the day. So I thought it was really nice, 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Like there's obviously benefits from it, and there's obviously things 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: that kind of are a bummer, maybe you don't get 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the exact seat you want. And at the same time, 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: this resort was huge. There is enough space for everybody. 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Almost was like a lesson in adult sharing, like we 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: can all be here and treat each other with respect 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: and kindness and not you know, hog all of the 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: good spots. Everybody deserves a chance to get the spot 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: they want. This even sounds so elementary just talking about it, 93 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: because the fight again is elementary. So anyway, one of 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: the days, I think it was the third day that 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: we were there, we took our time in the morning, 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: I think we went to the gym. We've got a smoothie, 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: We got dressed, and we walked down to the pool 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: and we were talking to one of the people that 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: worked there, employees of the resort, and this other guy 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: who was an employee of the resort who was the 101 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: cabana concierge, walked up to us. Another thing, everybody that 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: worked at this resort was so kind. The customer service, 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: the service, the everyd was so friendly. It was just 104 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: a pleasant place, so we're feeling good. This concierge walks 105 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: up to us. His name was Enrique, said, hey, do 106 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: you want to cabana? I have an empty cabana for 107 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: you guys. And we were not expecting to get a 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: cabana because it was like ten thirty maybe, so we 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: figured they'd all be taken. And we weren't even necessarily 110 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: looking to even get a cabana because I kind of 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: like to be have the option to be in the 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: sun and in the shade, you know, go back and forth. 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: But we were like, what the heck, like, at least 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: for a couple hours, that might be fun. So he 115 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: walks us over to this cabana and there's a book 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: on the bed and it's The Silent Patient. What's is 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: a great book? And I was like, oh, that's a 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: great book. The concierge, Enrique, takes a picture of it 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: and then he says, hey, hang out here. I'm gonna 120 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: go get some towels to set this up for you. 121 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: So comes back, sets it up. Everything's great. We're laying down. 122 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, we might me and Patrick maybe are 123 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: like playing a game of Monopoly deal or something. We 124 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: did a lot of that on our honeymoon, and this 125 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: guy walks up to us, who was sitting at the 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: pool chairs in front of us, and he's like, hey, 127 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: was there a book here when you got here? And 128 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 1: I was thinking nothing of this, because I even said 129 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: when Patrick and I went and walked to get a 130 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: drink when Enrique was setting up the cabana, like, do 131 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: you think somebody was saving that cabana or do you 132 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: think Enrique put the book there to save it for 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: a guest, which at this point and now looking back, 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that doesn't make sense. And Patrick was like, 135 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: I assume somebody was saving it, but you can't do 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: that here, so I don't think it really matters. And 137 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, and then I forgot about 138 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: it until this guy walks up. I still really wasn't 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: thinking about that until he said, hey, did you see 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: a book here? And I was like, oh, actually, yeah, 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: we did. The concierge took a picture of it, and 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: he took it with him and then he set this 143 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: up for us. He asked us if we wanted this cabana, 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: and we said yes, and he was like okay, thanks, 145 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: walked away. I assumed that after that experience like, oh, 146 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: he probably was saving this cabana but realizes like he 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: got caught, right like I would get that, maybe I'd 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: try to save it. But there's signs everywhere at this 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: resort that would say, if you leave your stuff here 150 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: for more than two hours, it'll go to Lost and found, 151 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: So I can like totally understand trying to save a 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: spot and then being like, oh, chucks, they caught me, 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: and then moving on. So I thought, kind of, that's 154 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: what happened. He was nice, this guy that came up 155 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to me. So then maybe twenty thirty minutes later, somebody 156 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: else comes up to us that actually had come down 157 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to hang out with that guy that had come up 158 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: to us before. They looked like they were together, like 159 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: a group, and he came down thirty minutes later and 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: then walked over to us. And I am not going 161 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: to do an impression of him one because they're from 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: the Midwest and I can't too. I just don't. I 163 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: don't want to mock him in anyway because he was 164 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: very patronizing. He was very condescending, and it was that 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: like fake niceness, like the bless your Heart like it 166 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: was the Midwest version of that. And for anybody who's 167 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: not from the South, Like the bless your heart is 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: like a nice way to say like like something unkind 169 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: to somebody, it's like, oh, bless your heart, Really you 170 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: might be calling somebody dumb. So this guy walks up 171 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: to us. He's like cleaning off his sunglasses and strolling 172 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: up all casual, and then he basically he says, is 173 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: this your first day in Paradise? Asking us, trying to 174 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: be friendly, and at first second I was like, oh, man, 175 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: maybe we're going about to make a resort friend, because 176 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: we were joking about that all week of like maybe 177 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: we'll meet some friends here and then they'll be like 178 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: our friends for the week and we like follow on 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Instagram and keep up with them. We didn't end up 180 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: making it and resort friends, but this was my one shot. 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: I thought. He walked up to us, and as soon 182 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: as he spoke, I was like, oh, he's not being 183 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: nice to us, And I personally do not like to 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: be spoken to as if I'm dumb, and that's what 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: this guy was kind of from my interpretation, was that 186 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: like he was going to act like he was nice 187 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: but actually be a jerk. And men that do that, 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: especially you know, just get under my skin. So I 189 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: can feel myself getting triggered in this moment, and also 190 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: I can feel myself telling myself to breathe through this, 191 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: because confrontation is something that for a lot of people, 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: it just ramps our heart rate up, right, And so 193 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: we can respond to that in a couple different ways. 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: It's the we can get into the fight, flight, or 195 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: freeze how we respond to that just threat in general, 196 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: I can get ready to fight, but at the same time, 197 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: I in those moments can kind of black out right. 198 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: It's like you kind of like freeze at the same 199 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: time and don't think as clearly because we're in survival mode. 200 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: We're not in logical mode here. So he says, this 201 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: is your first day in paradise. We say no, we've 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: been here for a couple of days. And then he says, well, 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: my buddy over there told me that you took a 204 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: picture of my book and you stole my cabana. He says, 205 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: this is your first day in paradise. We say no, 206 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: we've been here for a couple of days. And then 207 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: he says, well, my buddy over there told me that 208 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: you took a picture of my book and you stole 209 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: my cabana, and it was like also like a like 210 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: a switch flipped really quickly, like he was acting, pretending 211 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to be nice, and then real quickly I was like, well, 212 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin your day, but my friend here, 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: my buddy here, told me that you stole a cabana 214 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and you took a picture of my book. And I 215 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I actually didn't take a picture 216 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: of your book. Enrique, the pool concierge, asked us if 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: we wanted a cabana, brought us over here. He actually 218 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: took a picture of your book. He set it up 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: up and he has your book. So if you're looking 220 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: for your book, he has it. And again I could 221 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: understand at that point if he was like I just 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: want my book back. There's some miscommunication and maybe he 223 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: thought that we had it. So I was like, oh no, 224 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: we don't have it, so if you want it, you 225 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: can ask Enrique. I assume it's in the Lost and 226 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Found at this point, and he's like, well, that sounds 227 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: like a strange story to me. It's one of those 228 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: things where you don't know what to respond, how to 229 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: respond to because it's like, well, I don't know what 230 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: to tell you. That's the only story that I have, 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I think is how I responded, and it just was like, oh, 232 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: if you're telling the truth to somebody and they're accusing 233 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: you of lying, it's like that's all I got. I 234 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: could make up a story if you wanted a different one, 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: but that's really the only story I have at this moment. 236 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: And he was like, huh, well, you guys think it's 237 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: okay to just steal people's spots. At this point, I 238 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: was like, come on, like, I'm trying to have a 239 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: nice day. I don't need this, and so I just 240 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: was like, we didn't steal your spot. And I don't 241 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: know if you've read any of the signs, but they're 242 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: everywhere and they say that you can't save spots of 243 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: this resort. And at this point I kind of felt 244 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: silly because I felt like I was having some really 245 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: immature argument over something that just didn't matter. Like his 246 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: response to that was like, well do you not see 247 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: that everybody else saved spots here? And it reminded me 248 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: of being in like high school or middle school and 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: being mad that my mom made me come home at 250 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: the government designated curfew and my friends maybe didn't have to, 251 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and being like, it's not fair, like Jessica's mom lets 252 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: her stay out late, and my mom would respond and 253 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: be like, well, if Jessica jumped off a bridge, would 254 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: you do that too, Like that's the kind of conversation 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I felt like I was having at that point. But 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: I also couldn't get out of it because he had 257 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: approached us, so I couldn't just walk away, So that 258 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: went on. He was like, I woke up at six 259 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: am to save the spot, and I was like, well, buddy, 260 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: it's eleven at this point, so if you woke up 261 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: at six am to save this spot, you're just not 262 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: getting and honestly, I think it might have been eleven thirty. 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: You're just now getting down here. That feels a little silly, 264 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: And it makes sense that your book was taken because 265 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: the signs say if you're not here for two hours, 266 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: they're going to take your stuff. So I really don't 267 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: know what to tell you at this point. And he 268 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: lingered for a little longer and then said, well, I 269 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: hope that you enjoy our cabana today. I'm just going 270 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: to go fry in the sun with my friends, and 271 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: then he walked over to his pool chair that very 272 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: much had an umbrella over it, giving him plenty of shade. 273 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: So that happened, and then the lesson came after that 274 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: because he was sitting him and his friends there's four 275 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: of them, was they were sitting in pool chairs that 276 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: were directly in front of where we were, and they 277 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: were facing the pool, and they're there the rest of 278 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: the day, almost the entire time that we were there, 279 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: and his approach and his confrontation and his accusatory nature 280 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: really did shake me up, and it frustrated me, and 281 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I felt a lot of things, and I'm not going 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: to get into all of it, but looking back in retrospect, 283 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: I in response to him, really wanted to prove a point, 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: and it stole something from Patrick and I from that 285 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: afternoon because after that experience, I don't know how long 286 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: we would have stayed in that cabana, because like I 287 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: said earlier, we part of me wanted to be in 288 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: the sun, but after that I felt very like territorial 289 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: of that space and I just didn't want him to 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: have it at that point because how he had treated me, 291 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and I honestly don't know what I would have done 292 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: if he would have just been like, oh, man, like, 293 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: that's a bummer. We really wanted a cabana today, So 294 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: if you guys decide to get up and move, can 295 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: you come tell us so we can snag it before 296 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: somebody else does. I honestly might have been like, I 297 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: don't know if we even really want this cabana, so 298 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: if if they were being kind, I could have just 299 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: given it back to them. But at that point I 300 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: just felt territorial. And what I learned is keeping something 301 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: from somebody else, keeping him from having what he wanted, 302 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: does not offer me what I want in return. The 303 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: justice part of me wanted to stand up for what 304 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: was right and wanted to stand up for him treating 305 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: us unkindly and accusing us of something that we didn't 306 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: do and talking to us disrespectfully. And you know, I 307 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: think there probably is a lot more too, because I 308 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: think this also brings up Do you remember the story 309 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: of the guy from the restaurant, the manager from the 310 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: restaurant the beach last summer? It was that same idea 311 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: where there's this man who is asserting his power, and 312 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to show up as just as powerful because 313 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: that for me is that's just a trigger for me 314 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: men thinking that they can just treat me, talk to me, 315 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: scare me, manipulate me in a certain way to get 316 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: what they want. And I think that part of me 317 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: was brought up in that moment. So I felt disrespected, 318 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I felt misunderstood. I felt very disappointed by the person's 319 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: behavior because I'm like, we're in such a happy place, 320 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Like what would happen if we treated our everybody with 321 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: kindness and joy and respect? And it also reminded me 322 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: of like a high school bully who was like, oh, 323 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: are you knew here? Like this is how it's done 324 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: around here, Like That's what it reminded me of too. 325 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: And what I failed to realize in that moment is 326 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: that person did not care in being reasonable. He did 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: not care about understanding our perspective, about understanding what happened. 328 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: He did not care about anything I had to do 329 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: with me or Patrick or our experience. He had very 330 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: much every care that he had at that moment was 331 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: all put into the pot of him getting what he wanted. 332 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: And what I wish I would have done in that 333 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: moment is to just let him, which I talked recently 334 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: on Amy Brown's podcast Fifth Thing, the Tuesday episode that 335 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I do with her. We talked about that, like the 336 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: let them theory, like if they want to think something, 337 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: let them. If they want to do something that doesn't 338 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: make sense, to let them. If they want to think 339 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: two plus two equals five, let them, like, let them 340 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: do that. And part of me wanted to sit down 341 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: and lecture this man about how to treat people with 342 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: kindness and decency and all of that. And I wanted 343 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: to him to realize that he's not better and more 344 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: deserving of anybody else at this resort. We're all equal here, 345 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: which was one of the reasons why I liked the 346 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: whole policy the head about the chairs, because I just, 347 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just felt like we were all 348 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: more equal and we could had a fair chance again 349 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: to get a pull chair, which feels very elementary to 350 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: be talking about. But he was not looking to understand 351 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: what happened. He was looking to be right. He was 352 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: looking to take back what he wanted and what he 353 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: believed he was owed in that moment, and I failed 354 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: to realize that. And what happened was Patrick and I 355 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: stayed in that cabana longer than we really probably really 356 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: would have wanted to, and we all so we're afraid 357 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: to leave the cabana because we were afraid he was 358 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: gonna they were gonna take our stuff. Like that's how 359 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of aggressive he was. Where I'm like, I wouldn't 360 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: be shocked if this man stole our stuff or like 361 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: caused a scene or through our stuff in the pool, 362 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: Like it wouldn't have shocked me. And so instead of 363 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: just being like, this is not worth it, I want 364 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: to go be at a part of in the part 365 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: of this resort where this person isn't and he's not 366 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: taking up space and he's not messing with my joy 367 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and happiness here. I wish I would have done that. 368 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I wish I would have been like Patrick, I don't 369 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: like being around this person. Let's go over here, let 370 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: them have the cabana. It's not worth it. But I didn't, 371 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us have been in 372 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: those spaces where we were trying to prove a point, 373 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: or we were keeping something from somebody else, but really 374 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, we were keeping something for ourselves 375 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: and it wasn't worth it, Like him understanding or him 376 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: not having that cabana was not worth me not having 377 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: the day that I wanted to have that day, and 378 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: we can apply to different parts of our lives, different relationships, 379 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: just different things. I mean, as little as or as 380 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes this might feel big. But somebody tries 381 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: to steal a parking spot from you, let them like 382 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: is it really worth the energy and the hype and 383 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: the all of the things. I mean, I can get 384 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: pretty worked up if somebody tries to steal the love 385 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: for me, like is it worth that? Or can I 386 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: just go find a different spot and continue on with 387 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: my day. Depending on who you are, that's going to 388 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: bring up different stuff. Being taken, advantage of not being 389 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: taken seriously, not being seen, not being heard, being misunderstood, 390 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: not having a voice, we can bring up a lot 391 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: of stuff. And there are moments where that experience in 392 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: the moment is triggering something else from our past. And 393 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I really think that's what was happening. Because I did 394 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: not care about this this guy, I'm never gonna see 395 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: him again. I know he was seemed to be having 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: a fine day without the gabana. I wasn't really actually 397 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: taking probably that anything that big of a deal from him. 398 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: But I did take something from myself, and that have 399 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: some sadness around so a couple lessons in here. One 400 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the big one is let them. Another one from me 401 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: is which I actually talk about a lot with clients. 402 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: And for the most part, I feel like I am 403 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: able to do this. But there are some moments where 404 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my humanness comes out where I 405 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: really want to show up as myself, no matter how 406 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: the people around me are showing up. It's that whole 407 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: idea of like, I don't have to sync down to 408 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: their level, and being unkind to somebody else does not 409 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: then in turn, take away the unkindness that somebody showed me. 410 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't erase that, you know, all these lessons we 411 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: were taught in elementary school. Two wrongs won't make it right, 412 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: and not that we were doing anything wrong, but like 413 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: my stubbornness did not take away his unkindness, and maybe 414 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have become friends with him, and maybe I 415 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have hung out with him later that day. Maybe 416 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: that's what I could, you know, hold versus his his cabana, 417 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: versus the cabana that I really actually didn't care about, 418 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden I cared about it. 419 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: So I go on on and on, Like I said, 420 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: I can take a five minute story and tell it 421 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: for three days. But that's what happened. And if anybody 422 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: is about to go on their honeymoon, maybe this can 423 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: keep you from spending time thinking and talking and worrying 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: about something that actually isn't important to you, so you 425 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: can enjoy the day that you need to have. So 426 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: with that, I'm going to end this. Remember merch Friday, 427 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: ten am Central. You need therapy podcast. Instagram at you 428 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: need therapy podcast. You can send us or me emails, thoughts, questions, anything. 429 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Catherinet you need therapy podcast, and you can follow me 430 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: at Kat dot defada. I'll be back with you on 431 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Monday for an episode that I'm so excited to come 432 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: out because I had a lot of fun recording it. 433 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: We talked about started talking about skincare, and you know, 434 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: it brought us all the way to a conversation around 435 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: the fear of dying. So you can look forward to that. 436 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: It will be Monday's episode, like I said, And until then, 437 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have the day that you need 438 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: to have. Bye.