1 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope, 2 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever year listening, it's good to 3 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: be back with you once again. We are in the 4 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: midst of well, at least for some teams in some 5 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: fan bases, right now is one of the most exciting 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: parts of the baseball calendar. But if you're a Braves 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: fan covering the Braves or remember of the Brace franchise, 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: things are pretty quiet on the Braves front right now. 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into that and much more. But of course, 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: as always, I am with my podcast partner, Stephen Tolbert. Stephen, 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: good talking with you again, sir, Hope all has been 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: well on your end. 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Sean. Yeah, we're kind of in day 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: three of the Winter Meetings. You know, if you count 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Sunday as day one, you know, we had the big 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: news with Soto, and then yesterday was pretty slow, and 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: then today we had some fireworks kickoff, which is we 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: were going to probably record a show to night anyways, 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: but the topic certainly changed and you can probably tell 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: if you're watching this by the title exactly what went 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: down today. But yeah, it was kind of an end 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: of an era in Braves Country is Max Freed signs 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: with the Yankees, and you know, we're going to talk 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: about it. And then there was another signing almost about 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: an hour later that also impacted the Braves. So yeah, 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: a couple of fascinating moves that got done today that 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: we're going. 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: To talk about absolutely. And the thing about it is 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: this is that you know, Max Freed is a New 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: York Yankee. And the thing that stands out to me 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: is this is that I think that the most surprising 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: part of this was just how much Max Freed got. 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: He signed an eight year, two hundred and eighteen millillion 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: dollars yar with the New York Yankees. Now, first off, 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: hats off to Max Freed, Congratulations to him. He certainly 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: has the track record of a pitcher who you could, 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at his numbers on paper, 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: see him potentially getting one hundred and seventy five plus 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: to two hundred plus million when it happens. But I 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: think what's not surprising is the fact that for years 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: we kind of anticipated probably Stephen I think kind of 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: after the year, probably after twenty twenty one, after he 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: had won that World Series, even after twenty twenty two. 44 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Each year it became more and more clear that he 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: was going to be a free agent. Each year it 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: became more and more clear that he probably was going 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: to earn more than the Braves were going to be 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: willing to pay him. And that certainly became true. But 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: what I will say is this, This is no slight 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: to Max Freed, but I am glad that if he 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: earned eight years and two hundred and eighteen million, it 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: was another team paying him than the Braves. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So a lot to get to here. First of all, 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: we'll love Max forever. Max brought a World Series to 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves, and there's just only so many people 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: that can say that. And Max was literally on the 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: mound for Game six in Houston against the best lineup 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: in baseball and shoved, just shoved to win a World Series. 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: And that will be a memory I have for the 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: rest of my life. Literally, I will remember that game 61 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. And Max pitched it. 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: And so for that, we are forever indebted to Max. 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: For what he did as Brave, he was kind of 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: the you know, he was kind of the poster child 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: for the rebuild in a lot of ways, because he 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: was one of the big prospects that they traded for. 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: You know, that Justin Upton trade was one of the 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: first trades they made when they tore it all down, 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: and Max Reid was the main piece that came back, 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: and he was in the system during the rebuild, and 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: then he came up as the Braves started getting good 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: and he eventually became, you know, an ace of the 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: team and eventually led them to a World Series. So 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: forever indebted to Max Freed as a Braves fan, and 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: I'll always love Max, you know, I want to lead 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: with that. But after that, after you get past that, 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: I think this is probably an atrocious contract. Eight years 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: and two hundred and eighteen million dollars for a guy 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: who's thirty one years old, who's got elbow concerns, who's 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: already had Tommy John in his career. I think that's 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna end pretty badly. I'm extremely 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: happy for Max that he got paid because all he 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: went through as a prospect, he was, you know, because 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: he had those injuries. As a prospect, he was a 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: late starter. He got the free agency late, and a 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: lot of times for those guys, they really pay for 87 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: it when they get to free agency, because they're already 88 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: thirty one, thirty two and they don't get this payday. 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: And he hit the market at a perfect time, or 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: pitching is very expensive, and he got he got maximum 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: dollars like this is if you ask Max Freed, what 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: is what is like the ninety ninth percentile outcome for 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: him in free agency? This is it. This was as 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: big a contract as he ever could have voted for. 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: And I am ecstatic for him that he got it. 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: But in terms of value, in terms of baseball, this 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: is probably an atrocious contract. Like these are the exact 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: kind of pitching contracts I want no part of. And 99 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: I think you and I talked about it like this. 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: This is the exact contract I don't want the Braves 101 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: to ever sign. And so am I happy for Max? 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: I'm ecstatic for Max. Am I happy the Braves aren't 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: the one doing this? I am because and this is 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: an important point. The Yankees can make moves like this, 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: and if it blows up in their face, they can 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: just keep going. They can just keep going, and they 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: can just write it off and keep going, and it's 108 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: not going to really affect what they do the Braves can't. Right, 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: if the Braves sign this contract and it blows up, 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: that hurts them every single year of this contract. And 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: they don't have the They're not they're not at that 112 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: They're not at the Yankees level in terms of spending 113 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: and financial freedom where they they can you know, the Dodgers, 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: the Mets, the Yankees, these teams that can they can 115 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: sign these contracts and if they blow up in their face, 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: oh well, it's just it's a minor speed bump and 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: they can keep going. The Braves don't have that luxury. 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: The Braves have to be much smarter with their money 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: because a deal like this could cripple them for years. 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm ecstatic for Max. I'm incredibly happy 121 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: for him. I'm also incredibly happy that the Braves are 122 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: not the one that are on the hook for eight 123 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: years and two hundred and eighteen million on a thirty 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: one year old pitcher with a with an if he elbow. 125 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Max definitely seems to kind of follow the 126 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: baseball trend where he is now. He's being paid now 127 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: for what he did, you know, probably at his peak, 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: you know what between you know, six and two years 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: ago you know, but basically Max are kind of at 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: his peak during the twenty nineteen through two thousand and 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: twenty two I would say season. I believe the twenty 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: twenty two season he finished second in the in the 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Cy Young Race. The thing that I will say, though, 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: is this is that I definitely don't, to Steven's point, 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: want to take away from the fact that Max Freed 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: has been among the best arms that have ever taken 137 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the mound for the Braves. In my opinion, I mean 138 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: this legitimately, and I don't mean to show my age 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: any young sense here, but would you go through the 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: pictures in Brave's history Smaltz, Glavin Maddox, obviously Phil Mikro, 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: as well as Warren Spawn. When you get past those 142 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: top five, I think that Max Reid probably has leads 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: that next tier. Maybe there are probably other arms out 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: there that you can put on that level. But when 145 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you talk about the peak that he had as a 146 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: Brave second again in National Euxy Young Awards, the longevity 147 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: that he had with the Braves, the fact that he 148 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: had the playoff fee, struggled in the playoffs at times, 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: but he didn't win a World Series for us. Literally 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: being on the mound. That's for an organization that's known 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: for its pitching. That says a lot. But again, as 152 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: much he has stood out as being a success with 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: the Braves, he is the most recent in a line 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: of players that Alexanthopoulos really did not want to have 155 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: to pay for all that success that they previously had 156 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: because he just did not feel it was the best investment. 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: We saw that happen with Freddy Freeman, we saw it 158 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: happened with danizy Wi Swanson. We now have seen it 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: happen with Max Freed, so everybody knew this was coming. Again. 160 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: It's sad to see the era over, but I think 161 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: that you can both appreciate and really cherish what you 162 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: had with Max Reed, you know, truly value what he 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: was with the Braves, while also realizing for the future 164 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: of the organization this probably was the right move to 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: let him get this payday elsewhere. 166 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a little different than Freeman and Swanson, 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: just because with Freeman, even after he became a free agent, 168 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: we didn't know if they were going to sign him 169 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: or not, And a lot of people thought they even 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: after he became a free agent, that they that they 171 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: would sign it, and it wasn't until the day they 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: traded for Matt Olsen. Basically we learned that they're not 173 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: signing Freddy Freeman. And even with Dansby, like we kind 174 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: of figured they weren't going to be in that shortstop market, 175 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: but we didn't know they needed a shortstop. They they 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: very well could have been in that market depending on 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, what Dansby ended up getting, The Braves could 178 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: have ended up being the team that signed him. So 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: even that we didn't really know this one, we've known 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: for a while. This one, like it's just been understood, 181 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: you know. You and I had Buster only on here 182 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: back when we first started this podcast in May. He 183 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: was one of our first guests and he said very 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: plainly that day that you know, no one in the 185 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: baseball expects Max Freed to go back to the Braves 186 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: after twenty twenty four. And it's been we've been operating 187 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: under that understanding for more than a year now, honestly, 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: So this this should not come as a shock to anybody. 189 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: And it was just gonna find out what team he 190 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: went to and how much money he got and and 191 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: now and that's what we learned today. He went to 192 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: the Yankees, and he got a ton of money. He 193 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: got two hundred and eighteen million dollars over over eight years. 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: It's like twenty seven million dollars a year. I think, so, yeah, 195 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: it's not stunning. You know, we're gonna talk here in 196 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: a second about where the Braves go from here. But 197 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: we did want to start out the podcast with appreciating 198 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: Max for what he did, congratulating Max on getting this money, 199 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: because that's a bag. He just got himself, an absolute bag. 200 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: I think the largest contract ever for a left handed starter. 201 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: I think I saw somebody tweet that, which is crazy 202 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: if you think about it. And and also, you know, 203 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: I did want to point out, as we both said 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: that I'm I'm not terribly jealous. You know, if it 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: had been a smaller deal, there probably would have been 206 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: a contingent of Braves fans and been like, man, I 207 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: would have loved to sign Max at that deal. I 208 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: don't know that there's going to be very many Braves 209 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: fans that were just you know, hungry to give Max 210 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighteen million dollars over eight years. I 211 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: think most people understand it's probably best that they're not 212 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: the team to do this, but yeah, congrats to Max 213 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: all the law. I mean, I will literally be rooting 214 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: for him every single time he takes the mound unless 215 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: it's against the Braves. I want nothing but success for him. 216 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: He was a class guy the whole time he was here, 217 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: and he won, He won the he helped win the 218 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: Braves of the World series, and I'll honestly that alone 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: makes him a Brave's legend and he will never be 220 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: forgotten by this fan base. 221 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: Nor as he shouldn't. Thank you for everything, match Witch, 222 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: you nothing but the best in New York, unless you know, hey, 223 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: if we were to face you somewhere down the line 224 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But in all all joking aside, thank 225 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: you for everything. Best of luck and definitely hope that 226 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: you make the most of your career of moving forward. 227 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: But speaking of moving forward, that's exactly where the Braves 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: find themselves, and unfortunately, you know, I feel like, you know, 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: we're starting to kind of find ourselves. In that Old 230 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Friends episode where Ross and Rachel and I think Chandler 231 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: are going up the stairs with the couch and Ross 232 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: is saying, pivot, pivot, That's what I feel like this 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: off season is coming to for the Braves because to 234 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: your point, Stephen, as you had mentioned Max Breed, Yes, 235 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: we expected for him to sign elsewhere, so we knew 236 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: that we were going to have a big void to 237 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: feel like the Brave. One thing I will say is 238 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: this the Braves without Max Freed or a worse team 239 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: than that with Max Freed. But you can potentially find 240 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: an arm that you know, at the very least can 241 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: at times be that front of the rotation option. One 242 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: name that we had consistently been linked to is Nathan e. Evaldi, 243 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: and the hope was was that you know, the Braves 244 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: could get him on a deal where they can get 245 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: him maybe for a few years. Twenty plus millions seem reasonable, 246 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: and that may be an alternative that was much more 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: feasible in terms of a term and contract, but also 248 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: had some postseason success that no longers on the table. 249 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Nathan the Avaldi a three year, seventy five million dollar 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: deal similar to what we saw Sonny Gray signed last 251 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: year with the Saint Louis Cardinals. So you seem back 252 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: to back years in which you know there were some 253 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: veteran starters who could make sense for the Braves that 254 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: they signed that three year seventy five million dollars deal 255 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: that it just seems Alex was not comfortable with. Even 256 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: what is your takeaway, I feel like three year seventy 257 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: five million is pretty reasonable for Nathan Yovaldi. Just seems 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: like maybe that Alex and Thopless was not comfortable with 259 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: that average annual value for that third year. 260 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like every other picture on the market, 261 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: he got, you know, a little to a lot more 262 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: than what he was expected to get. You know, the 263 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: projection for him, I think was like three sixty sixty 264 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: five something like that, around right around twenty one twenty 265 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: two million, and he obviously got three to seventy five 266 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: twenty five million a year. And yeah, I mean clearly 267 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: the Braves weren't interested at that price. I mean I 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: think they probably could have done it. They certainly have 269 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: the payroll space to do it. But you know, it 270 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: got up to a number that Alex wasn't comfortable with. 271 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: And now it's where it gets interesting, because there are 272 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: a lot of pictures off the market. I mean, you know, 273 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: you go through them. Obviously Max and Ivaldi came off 274 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: the market. You know, several Reno's already off the market. Uh, 275 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Michael Waka is already off the market. Uh, Frankie Montas, 276 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: there's been a bunch of I mean, people have been 277 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: aggressively signing pictures and if you look at who's left 278 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: in terms of like impact starters, you've got Corbyn Burns, 279 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: who's gonna get a massive amount of money that I 280 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: don't think that anyone thinks the Braves are gonna be 281 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: involved in that. So you got Corbyn Burns, then you 282 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: got you know, you got like Sean Maniah, you got 283 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Nick Pavetta, you got Walker Bueler is a name that 284 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: a lot of Braves fans are going to talk about 285 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: just as as an upside play, maybe a one year 286 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: pillow deal that Alex loves to do. So, you know, 287 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: like you said, it's we're in pivot. We're in pivot 288 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: mode because you know, one of the Braves aces just 289 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: walked out the door. And unfortunately for Braves fans so 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: far this offseason has been about what they've lost because 291 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: they traded away so Lair, they non tendered Griffin Kanning 292 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: and Loreano, they declined Travis Darnol's option. Max Freed just 293 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: walked out the door. You know, probably their top pitching 294 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: target and Nathaniuvaldi just signed with another team, you know, 295 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: and there really hasn't been anything to talk about other 296 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: than what's walking out the door, and so Brace fans 297 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: are very eager, and I'm one of them. I tweeted 298 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff today, joking around about how, you know, 299 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: Alexis is just walking through the winter meetings, just swack 300 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: shopping instead of instead of making moves. But yeah, Brace 301 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: fans are eager to get to the point of the 302 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: off season where we're actually talking about an addition of 303 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: some sort versus a subtraction. And you look around the 304 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: market and it's getting thin. And Brad and I talked 305 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: about it last night about outfield and shortstop, how thin 306 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: those markets are getting now, starting pitchers getting super thin 307 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: with two of the biggest names going off the board tonight. 308 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, trades are always out there, and trades 309 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: are impossible to predict because there's too many names out 310 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: there to really ever get it right. But you know, 311 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: maybe we're to the point now where trades are more likely. 312 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: The Braves don't have a ton of prospects. They have 313 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: a couple of good ones that they could definitely move 314 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: if they wanted. 315 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: To. 316 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: But in terms of the free agent market, which is 317 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: where Alex typically lives, it's getting it's getting late early, 318 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: as they say, and some of their need areas outfield, starting, pitcher, 319 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: shortstop have thinned very very quickly, and so I don't know, 320 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, Alex has a plan obviously, but if they 321 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: don't move, make a move on somebody here very soon. 322 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Am I just run out of names quite honestly. 323 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And my initial thought is is that again, you're 324 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: you're the Braves are not going to pay Corbyn Burns 325 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: what he deserves. I in no way, shape or form 326 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: want them to pay Jack Clarity what he probably feel 327 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: he deserves. I am all for going to get Walker Buehler, 328 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: especially if you could potentially get him at a bit 329 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: of a lower cost. He's still young, younger than some 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: of these veteran starters like a Sunny Gray or an 331 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: Eavaldi or a Chris Sale, and so he could probably 332 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: he's probably still has kind of a second surge in 333 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: his career once he gets fully healthy. And the big 334 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: thing for me that stands out, Steven is this, I 335 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: know that Mark Bowman talked about and I know that 336 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: you and Brad talked about the idea of a Charlie 337 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: Morton Max Kepler combination. Max Kepler as an outfielder is 338 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: perfectly fine, but the Braves need to make a move 339 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: that's going to impact the postseason, that they feel confident 340 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: is going to impact the postseason. I feel that alexan 341 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: Thopolis still sees a starting pitching edition as being that focus. 342 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Because we didn't get to see Chriszill. We got to 343 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: see what I believe, one inning of Rinaldo Lopez on 344 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: that Monday before the postseason. We didn't get to see 345 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: one of those editions in the postseason this year. He 346 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: is now without Max re Reed and to me, Charlie 347 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: going to get Charlie Morton this early in the all 348 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: season doesn't make sense. That's why I do have some 349 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: interest in and a Walker Bueler, because we've seen him 350 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: have postseason success. When we talk about trades, could for 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: the second year in a row, Alexanthopolis go get a 352 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: left hander who's had postseason success whose value is a 353 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: bit down in Jordan Montgomery who probably he could get 354 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: him at a lower price, and the Braves could probably 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: do well to fix him and see what they could do. 356 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: I do think that a trade makes sense. If Walker 357 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Vieler to me, is not there, if he's going to 358 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: cost too much, then the trade probably makes sense. Do 359 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: we go talk to the Yankees now as mister Cortez 360 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: without a rotation spot, just some different names that are 361 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: out there, I think it makes sense to go get 362 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: another left hander. But when we talk about pivot, there's 363 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: several different ways the Braves could go. The issue is 364 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: is that wherever they go, there's also heightened risk that 365 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: they may not be able to replicate what they had 366 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: with Max Freed moving forward. You're probably not going to 367 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: find a Max breed, but go find somebody who's had 368 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: postseason success and you feel could have postseason success again. 369 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: That still matters to me when it comes to adding 370 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: an arm. 371 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, the bros will tell you that the 372 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: number one option for replacing Max Freed next year is 373 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: Spencer Strider. Right. That's what the Braves will say is 374 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: that you know, with Chris Sales, Spencer Strider, Ronaldo Lopez, 375 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: and Spencer Swallenbach, they're they've got a really good rotation. 376 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: We've documented at length the different issues with each one 377 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: of those names and why there's some questions around each 378 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: one of those names and their production in twenty twenty five, 379 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: which is why it's important to go get someone else. 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, they'll say that Strider is gonna 381 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: be the guy that steps in for Max and the 382 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: Braves will still have their two aces and and you know, 383 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what they're hoping for, but the reality is, 384 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: when you're coming back from major elbow surgery like that, 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: no one knows when you're coming back, and no one 386 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: knows what you're gonna be like when you get back. 387 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: So they've getten. They need to do something. You know, 388 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: Brad and I did talk about the Kepler Charlie Morton combination, 389 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: and we've kind of arrived at the conclusion that that's 390 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: just that's insufficient. That's an insufficient offseason. Like you said, 391 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: that does don't really impact the postseason. You know, More 392 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: is not going to pitch a postseason game for you, 393 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: even if you bring him back. He's a fifth starter 394 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: at this point in his career. So they need to 395 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: go get somebody. I know, if it's Sean Maniyah or Paveta, 396 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: both had really good years last year. You know, if 397 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: it's a trade, if it's Garrett Crochet, if it's Jordan Montgomery, 398 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, Kevin Golsman. You know, there's there's a bunch 399 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: of good teams that are trying to cut some payrolls. 400 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: So some trades that don't cost a ton of prospects, maybe, 401 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, kind of like the Chris Sale trade last year, 402 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: a guy whose debt value is down because of injury 403 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: or underperformance, and you take a you know, you take 404 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: a leap and see if you can get some value there. 405 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: But they need to do something, and I would love 406 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: for it to be like now because we're we're approaching 407 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: the middle of December and all this team has done 408 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: is subtract from last year's team, and you know, options 409 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: are getting thin quickly, and and maybe trades are now 410 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: much more of the much more the possibility than they 411 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: were before. But they need to do something. They needed. 412 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: They still need an outfielder, they still need a starting pitcher, 413 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: and they still need a reliever and same needs that 414 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: we've had all off season because they haven't made any 415 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: additions yet. So I am I am anxiously awaiting that 416 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 2: first big addition of the off season. 417 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, when when we talk about you know, Okay, 418 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: if we quote unquote word of pivot into talking a 419 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: bit more trade, Steven and we were to talk about 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: looking at the arms that can make sense. You know, 421 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: let's look at some of the arms that are out there. 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, we know that, you know, Luis Castillo potentially 423 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: could be an option that the Mariners are looking to trade. 424 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: But what are they looking for? They're looking for bats. 425 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: There's been rumors that when it comes to Garrett Crochet 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: from the Chicago White Sox, we'd love to trade for him. 427 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: We did. 428 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: The Braves have been rumored to have interests. They had 429 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: interests in Dylan Ceese, probably have had conversations with the 430 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: White Sox about Garrett Crochet. What do they want? They 431 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: want bats? We've we've heard the Astros maybe willing to 432 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: listen to them from for Baldez. I'm not sure if 433 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Baldez has one or two years left, but but you know, 434 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: the Astros probably are looking potentially to restock their outfit, 435 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: especially if they don't think they're going to be able 436 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: to hold on to Kyle Tucker. It just becomes interesting 437 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: to me on a couple of fronts. Number One, if 438 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: we were to trade, do we go after a controllable pitcher, 439 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: or do we go after someone with one year left 440 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: who we may feel we could get a good deal 441 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: and extend them once we were to acquire them. And 442 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: the other thing that comes into play for me, Steven 443 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: is that if we're seeing that the free agent market 444 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: for pictures is just out of the realm that we 445 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: had thought it would be, where do a J. Smiths, shaufern, 446 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Hirsch and Waldripner into the equation. Is there value remaining 447 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: in the system and being depth that eventually becomes a 448 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: part of the rotation, or do one of them potentially 449 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: become more free to use to be able to go 450 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: get a significant starting pitching upgrade. I would not trade 451 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: personally either one of them unless we were getting a 452 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: controllable starting pitcher. But it just opens up a bunch 453 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: of questions like what's the best route for this brave 454 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: team to go. I feel eventually they're probably going to 455 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: find that adding a relevant to significant outfeel bad is 456 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the way to go in free agency, and a trade 457 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: for a picture makes sense. But if they're going to 458 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: make that trade for a pitcher, do they go one year, 459 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: do they go you know, multiple years? Do they use 460 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: one of their prize arms to get it, a lot 461 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: of different questions. That's what the best trade avenue to 462 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: take actually is. 463 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's I mean, it's impossible. I mean, no one, 464 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: not a single soul, had Chris Sale going to the 465 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: Braves last December. Not a soul. No one was talking 466 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: about it. I know, because we talk about this duff 467 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: a year round, and if anybody was talking about it, 468 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: we would have known about it. We would have talked 469 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: about it, we would have brought it up. Not a 470 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 2: whisper about Chris Sale. And then you know, I think 471 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: it was December thirty first. I think it was the 472 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: last day of the year. Last year they traded for Chrisale. 473 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: So when you're talking about trades, it could be anybody. 474 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: There's guys available we don't even know are available. You know, 475 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: guys that teams aren't necessarily shopping out loud. But if 476 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: you offer the right package, if you offer the right 477 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: amount of salary relief, then all of a sudden, the 478 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: team is willing to do it. You know, the Twins, 479 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: you know, Pablo Lopez is not publicly available, but if 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: the Twins and have to clear a certain amount of 481 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: money and the Braves offer something. Who knows. I mean, 482 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: you know there's names all over baseball. Jesus Lozardo was 483 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: a name that was floated today about potentially being available. 484 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: The Marlins have a couple guys you know that potentially 485 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: could be. I mean, there's just names. Every trades are 486 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: impossible to predict. So if they go that route, then it, 487 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: you know, the possibilities are somewhat less. Really. You know, 488 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: with free agents, it's very easy to tell because there's 489 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: a list of them to start the off season, and 490 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: as they sign elsewhere, you just check them off the list. 491 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: And that's what we're doing. 492 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: Now. 493 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: There's you know, probably half the decent starters on the 494 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: free agent list to start the year. I've already signed 495 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: with someone else, So you know, that's where the urgency 496 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: comes from. But if they're going to do a trade, 497 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: then it's cheesier. And I am still one hundred percent 498 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: confident that they're going to add a starter, and I'm 499 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent confident they're going to add an outfielder. 500 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: How good of a player those two players are, I 501 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm hoping it will be quality, like you said, 502 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's somebody that can affect a postseason series. 503 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good bar for the Braves 504 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: that they need to clear on all their acquisitions is 505 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: and they talked about that last year with Chris Sale. 506 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: They're getting him specifically to help in the postseason, and 507 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: that's I think that's a good bar to clear. They 508 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: need to go get a picture that can help in 509 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: the postseason. They need to go get an outfielder that 510 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: can play every day for them, And you know, I 511 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: still need a I think they still need a high 512 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: leverage reliever on top of on top of those two. 513 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: So still those same shopping list as before. Trades are 514 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: probably much more likely than they were when the off 515 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: season started, just because of the number of names that 516 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: have come off. But we'll see there's still names available 517 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: in free agency if they want to go that route. 518 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: Walker Bueler is probably pretty high on the list. Sean 519 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: Mania is probably a pretty interesting name, depending on what 520 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: he ends up getting. But pitching has been so expensive 521 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't expect a bargain anywhere, you know, anywhere 522 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: we thought maybe a bargain would be has not manifested 523 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: itself so far. And Max just got eight years and 524 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighteen million dollars which no one saw coming. 525 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: So pitching is very expensive. Maybe a trade is the 526 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: way to go and we'll all find out together. 527 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: So then that takes me ask when it comes to 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: figuring out the best way to fill these multiple needs, 529 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: because we also need some level of relevant reliever I 530 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: think to be added as well. If Alex and thoplss 531 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: has shown he's probably not in the tier of wanting 532 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: to pay top dollar for one of these arms. And 533 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: if Walker Bueler, for instance, makes Nathan the Vivaldi money, 534 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: do we know the brains are going to pay that? 535 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Probably not. Then it comes about value when you're going 536 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: to go out and free agency, and I think that 537 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: what we've seen is you know, the Michael Conforto deal 538 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: that he signed with the Dodgers. I felt that was 539 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: right in line with what the Braves have done. But 540 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: I think that the value play may be in the outfield. 541 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: And Steven, I'm not sure how much thought you've given 542 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: to you know, at what point do you potentially just 543 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: sell out for offense. I know we traded that away 544 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: with Jorges Silaire in the two years, what twenty eight 545 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: meteron that was owed to him, but looking at a 546 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Jock Peterson the bat all bat, but a right handed bat, 547 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: which definitely is beneficial something the Braves need. Could they 548 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: survive with him a few months in left field potentially, 549 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: or maybe a whole year excuse me, or a Jerrickson profar? 550 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Jerkson Profar stands out to me in a pretty intriguing fashion. 551 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: He's got a bit of versatility, though the defense is 552 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: not reliable at all. But I feel that his market 553 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: may be a bit down, and if you could get 554 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: him for what ten to twelve million per year for 555 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: a few years, that's an upside bad that even you 556 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: could bat at the top of your order. I bring 557 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: this up. We're talking a lot about starting pitching, but 558 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: I bring it up to say I feel like that 559 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: if Alexanthopplis is trying to find value through a free 560 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: agent edition, an outfield edition is probably gonna offer a 561 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: much higher upside of that than a pitching edition when 562 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: it comes to relevant. 563 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: Names, Yeah, potentially. I mean, there's just so many outfielders 564 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: out there. I mean, you know, especially when you add 565 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: in trade trade targets. You know, Jock, he hasn't played DV, 566 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: he didn't play defense last year, it's full time DH. 567 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: Last year they tried that with so Lair. It went 568 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: so poorly that I don't know that they're gonna I 569 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: don't know if they're gonna jump in those waters again. 570 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: I think they're probably gonna want somebody that can at 571 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: least pretend to play defense. I do like Profar. I 572 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: probably like Profile a little more than other people. You know, 573 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: his his batted ball data was real last year. It 574 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: wasn't just a fluky one off season. You know, he 575 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 2: increased his ex blossy about about like five miles an 576 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: hour last year, which is unheard of. That's absurd to 577 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: go from an average of eighty six miles an hour 578 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: to an average of ninety one miles an hour. That 579 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: that especially like in the tenth year of a guy's career. 580 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: That's one of the biggest jumps I've ever seen. So, 581 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: you know, he obviously made a real effort to hit 582 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: the ball harder. It made huge dividends on his production. 583 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: You know, that guy was a top prospect at one 584 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: point in his career, so I think he was the 585 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: number one prospect of baseball. If I don't if I 586 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: remember correctly, We're going back a while now, But so yeah, 587 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that. I think he's better than Kelnick 588 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: and and by the fault, he would be the second 589 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 2: best outfitter on this team at the moment and depending 590 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: on when a Kunya comes back, So I'd be fine 591 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: with that. I think that's more realistic than ti Oscar 592 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: or Santander. I think both those guys are gonna get 593 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: massive paydays quite honestly, because there's a lot of teams 594 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of teams I missed out on 595 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Wan Soto that are looking for the next best outfielder, 596 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: and I think I think both those guys are gonna 597 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: end up getting paid pretty good off of the wake 598 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: of Juan Soto's deal, and so I think Profar is 599 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: probably the most likely. And then you get into that 600 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: next group of like Kepler and Verdugo and Jason Hayward 601 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: and we talked about those guys last night with Brad. 602 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, once you add trades into the mixic, the 603 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: possibilities open up, you know, all over the league. And 604 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: so that's what I'm gonna be interesting to see is 605 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: how the Braves addressed these needs. Could still be free agency, 606 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: but trades are definitely more likely at this point than 607 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: they were earlier. And if that's the case, it's hard. 608 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to predict anything. I mean, Alex 609 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: is just so he can be so random with some 610 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: of these moves. And you know, no one saw kell 611 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: Nick coming last year. No one saw Chris Sale, no 612 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: one saw Ronaldo Lopez quite honestly being a starter. They 613 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: could still go that route with a Jeff Hoffman, you know, 614 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: somebody we're not even talking about. So there's still a 615 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: lot of ways that can go. There's it's not like 616 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: it's too late to do anything. It's just getting late early. 617 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: There's a lot of names coming off board very quickly, 618 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: and if the Braids are going to jump in on 619 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: some of these, then they got to get going. Excuse me. 620 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: The Braves have had a ton of success bringing in 621 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: names that have had plenty of success when you compare 622 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: them to their previous stops. But I think Braves fans 623 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: are also getting a bit weary of Yes, it's great 624 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: to keep hitting on these names that are a bit risky, 625 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: but we get great reward from them in the regular season. 626 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: We're ready to find some of these options that can 627 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: really deliver for us in the postseason. Outside of Matt Olsen, 628 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: we've not really had the big addition that's helped us 629 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: out in the postseason. Excuse me, Charlie mooreon no, I'll 630 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: give him credit for that, but you know, in the 631 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: bullpen as well. But we've not really had the opportunity 632 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: to see the Matt Olsen's or the Sean Murphy's or 633 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, those additions Marcello Zunis for instance. Outside of 634 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: those homegrown talents, we've not really seen these additions that 635 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: have added value truly in the postseason since twenty twenty one. 636 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I think the Braves fans are ready for that. What 637 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: are we going to do to make a move to 638 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: go get a guy who's going to elevate us to 639 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: once again clearly be in that upper echelon of World 640 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Series contenders. On paper, we consistently are that, but it 641 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: has not translated in the past three years. What's the 642 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: move out there that's going to help us get to 643 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: that and the options that could reasonably help us do that. 644 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: They're becoming less and less reliable, I think, or they're 645 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: becoming less and less full of certainty to be at 646 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: that level, and I think that's what Braves fans rightfully 647 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: or focused on. 648 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a little I mean their British fans 649 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: are just kind of antsy, right, it's just kind of 650 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: idle hands or the Devil's workshop is kind of the 651 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: old thing, like when you don't have anything to talk about, 652 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 2: it gets negative quickly, and especially when you're watching other 653 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: teams do stuff. When you're watching on the Mets, you know, 654 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: one of your biggest rivals signed the biggest free agent 655 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: in history. You're watching your your staff a's for the 656 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: last for years signed with the Yankees. That doesn't help. 657 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 2: That doesn't help at all. So I think it's just antsy. 658 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: Once the Braves actually break the seal and make their 659 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: first edition, a lot of that will calm down, depending 660 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: on who it is. But that's what we're waiting on now. 661 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: We're waiting on Alex to make that first big edition 662 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: of the off season. I'm very surprised that it hasn't 663 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: happened yet. Alex typically works pretty quickly, but obviously this 664 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: market is a bit heavier than normal. There's not a 665 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 2: lot of value out there. It's a lot of market 666 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: and above market deals, and that's certainly not Alex's strong suits, 667 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: So he's probably having to wait, and I'm sure it's 668 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: killing him inside. I'm sure he wants to have stuff 669 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: done by now. But yeah, we're just waiting to see 670 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: what they do. 671 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: And the good thing is is that there's no better 672 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: place for you to come back and listen to when 673 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: it comes to what the Braves could potentially do. We 674 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: will continue to talk about all the potential moves that 675 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: are out there. Again, we can mention names all day long, 676 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: but right now there's still just so many out there 677 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: that it's hard really to dive deep dive into one 678 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: or two. But the thing that I'll say is this 679 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: is that the more names that are out there once again, 680 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: the more likely it is. Alex and Toppless is gonna, 681 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, you do his usual and going to get 682 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: a name that none of us talked about but in 683 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: the end does make plenty of sense and hopefully it 684 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: makes sense for the regular season and the postseason. But Stephen, 685 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: anything else but else more sh fort As we wrap 686 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: up this edition honoring the legacy Max Freed as an 687 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta Bray. 688 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: No, just one more shout out to Max. 689 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: Yep. 690 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: Incredibly happy for him. I mean, he waited so long 691 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: to become a free agent, like most major leaguers do, 692 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: and it went. His free agency went as good as 693 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: he probably ever could have hoped for. I mean, like 694 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: a one outcome for him. You know, pitching in New 695 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: York is going to be different, of course in that 696 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: media up there, and and you know, if he has 697 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: bumps in the road, that could get tricky. But he 698 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 2: got his payday and I'm happy for him, and I'm 699 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: incredibly happy for him. I'm going to root for him 700 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: like crazy. Big shout out to Max. Thanks for for 701 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: all the memories. It was a ton of fun. And 702 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: for the Braves. Let's get some moves going. Let's get 703 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: some additions going, because it's getting Nancy out here, and 704 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: for us who have to produce content, a little something 705 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: to talk about would be would be much appreciated. So 706 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: let's get let's get a move on. 707 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, before you know it here in the 708 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 1: next two weeks, Steven. If we don't, if we don't 709 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: see really anything going on, we're just gonna have to 710 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: start pulling out those player reviews. I've got the forty 711 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: five minute Luisi or a player review ready to go. 712 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Whenever we were ready to do it, so I'll be 713 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: glad to I'll be glad to do that one with you, Steven. 714 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Until next time, you could bind Steven Tolbert at b 715 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: Underscore Outliers on x slash Twitter, myself at stats Sac 716 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: on x slash Slitter Twitter, wherever you find Hammer Territory 717 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: across all forms of social media as well as Foul Territory. 718 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: Proud to be a part of the foul Territory family 719 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: of podcasts. Until next time, Go Braves. We'll talk to 720 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: you again soon. 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