1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 3: We've got a stack show. First off, just to give 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 3: you a sense of our guest lineup, Julie Kelly with 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: us at the top of the next hour. Then after 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: that Congress and Jim Jordan, and then we'll have doctor 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Marty McCarry in the third hour talking. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: About the. 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: Seemingly imminent return of mask mandates, at least in schools. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: What's going to happen here? It's insane. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if you go back now and look at 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: photos of people like Fauci double masked, I mean you 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: understand just how crazy this is. Notice they're not even 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: talking about that now. It changes with the needs of 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: the moment. They're not even saying, well, you have to 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: double mask, right, that was a moment in time that 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: The sheer idiocy of the whole thing. We'll certainly be 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: diving in to that. 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: Also, Biden gets slammed for lack of respect when he 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: walked out of a Medal of honor ceremony. Early Vietnam 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: War hero was left to listen to the closing benediction 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: by himself without the commander in chief. Some people saying 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Biden being disrespectful, some others saying, well, maybe Biden also 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 3: just doesn't know where he is at any given moment. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: So which one is it. We can discuss that and 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: how it affects the upcoming presidential election. But we are 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: going to start today with the news that actually broke 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: right after we finished the show yesterday. I haven't had 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: a chance to talk to you about it, but Proud 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Boys leader Enrique Terario has been sentenced to twenty two 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: years in federal prison for seditious conspiracy. 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: This is the. 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Longest sentence that anyone associated with January sixth has received 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: so far. It is rare, and we can talk more 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: about this. It is rare for there to be a 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: seditious conspiracy charge period. It is generally reserved for in 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: the past. In the recent past, al Qaeda cells, gie 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: hottest entities that one or two or tried to or 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: plotting to blow up buildings, take down airplanes. That's usually 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: where you see a seditious conspiracy charge emerge in the 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: federal court system, and here twenty two years it's stunning 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: when you see what the average sentences are for things 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: like murder and rape and hainous crimes in this country, 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: far less than twenty two years. And Clay, I just 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: there's a lot here, and I want to dive into 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: the legality of this with you in just a moment. 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: But I want to remind everybody. We're told that Terrio 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: who was not even. 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: At the capitol on January sixth in Maryland, I believe, 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: but he wasn't on site. He didn't attack anyone, he 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: didn't harm anyone. But he is facing now or has 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: been given twenty two year sentence. I just will remind everybody. 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: This is from The New York Times, Clay, May thirty first, 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. Despite an eleven pm curfew imposed by Mayor 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: Bowser and the activation of the National Guard, protests near 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: the White House, fueled by anger over the police killing 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: of George Floyd, spiraled out of control on Sunday night. 61 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Demonstrators were hit in the head with canisters of tear gas. 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: Some protesters broke into offices. Others started fires, one of 63 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: which may have spread, Actually it did spread by the 64 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: way to the basement of Saint John's. The Episcopal church 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: that has been attended by at least once by every 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: chief executive going back to James Madison. The protesters claim 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: a slice of Lafayette Square, the dividing line with the police. 68 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: On Saturday night they got closer to the White House, 69 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: they wrote graffiti with America, with KKK written in America. 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: There was tear gas, there were rocks, there were bottles thrown, 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: there were police officers assaulted, there were threats against the 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: White House Clay what was that? Nobody got Nobody got 73 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: twenty years in federal prison. Nobody even got years in 74 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: federal prison. I was outside the White House, even I 75 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: was Trump as president. They were praised. 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: And remember this, I always think this is an interesting analogy. 77 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: When they were threatening to storm the White House, and 78 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: they were tearing down barricades, and they were lighting fires, 79 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: and they were engaging in clearly violent behavior, do you 80 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: know what they did buck They were so concerned about 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: the president's health that they sent him down to a 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: safe room in the White House. Do you know what 83 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: the media did. They ridiculed Trump for being a coward. 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? Do you remember that whole storyline? 85 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: Compare that to how they treated everyone who was threatened 87 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: in any way in the media's mind by any of 88 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: the Jan six protesters. Oh, those Jan six protesters were 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: violent terrorists intent to kill all these different congressmen and 90 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: women senators. Everyone who fled was a hero. Everyone who 91 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: hid was in mortal peril. Just look at the way 92 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: the media covered the stories. The White House is threatened 93 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: by left wing protesters and the Secret Service. It's not 94 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: like this is a Trump decision says sir, we need 95 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: you to move down to a more secure area. Trump's 96 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: a coward. Look at him running. Everybody flees. The January 97 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: sixth protesters also with security telling them they needed to 98 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: be fleeing, And what is the way that they are treated. 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 4: They are treated as if they were in mortal peril, 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: and thank goodness, the security was there to protect them 101 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: from all of these deranged Jan six people, which, by 102 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: the way, I've been fired up about this for a 103 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: long time. But when you compare it's not even just 104 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: the protesters, although that's a good analogy. Buck When you 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: compare what's going on in Washington, d C. With actual violent, 106 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: violent criminals who were having felonies reduced to misdemeanors, with 107 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: the fact that they are trying to put Grandma's. 108 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: In jail for years. 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: It is. 110 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: It is such an unfair prosecution. And we're going to 111 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 4: talk with Julie Kelly here in what forty five minutes 112 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: about this. I think the Republican Party has totally failed 113 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: in their defense of basic justice as it pertains to 114 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: what's happened to these guys. Compared to the way that 115 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: general violent felons are being treated in DC, and certainly 116 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: compared to the way all of the BLM protesters are 117 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: being compared in Buck the one I looked at, and 118 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: I think this is one that Republicans should be slamming 119 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: and talking about all the time. 120 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Do you remember the. 121 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: Lawyers who threw the Molotov cocktail in New York City? 122 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 2: Yes? 123 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Remember what punishment they ended up getting. 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 2: It was very minor. 125 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna pull up the exact because my jaw 126 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: dropped when it came out. But when you compare it 127 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: to the Proud Boys, somebody who is a officer of 128 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: the court, a lawyer with an intentional Molotov cocktail, throwing 129 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: it and lighting a police car on fire, someone could 130 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: have easily died there. That's an intentionally violent act. They 131 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: got a pinprick of the punishment of everybody. 132 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: On January sixth, the riot, they call it a protest, 133 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: but it was a riot that broke out in Lafayette 134 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: Square on May thirty first of twenty twenty when Trump 135 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: was president. 136 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: They lit buildings on fire. 137 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they assaulted law enforcement officers all over the place. 138 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: They were throwing things at Copter's video of this. And 139 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: yet I read the entire indictment against Enriquetario, and I 140 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: sit there and I say, so, this is basically this 141 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: guy says, Look, he said some very dumb things. He certainly, 142 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: you know, got way too far ahead of himself with 143 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: thinking all kinds of crazy stuff. Fine, but he didn't 144 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: actually attack anybody. And to say that he should get 145 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: twenty two years in prison and go alongside the blind shake, 146 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: go alongside al Qaeda terrorists who want to commit mass 147 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: murder and tried to and did later on. I mean, 148 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: it depends on which iteration of their jihadis philosophy or 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: which one of their attacks talking about It's just it's 150 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: it's so utterly excessive. And I was reading all this plan, 151 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself, so what would have happened 152 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: that night on May thirty, first of twenty twenty at 153 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: the Secret Service. It said, you know what, we're gonna 154 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: just let some of you guys into the White House. 155 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: We're gonna write this way. Yeah, they opened, they opened, 156 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: they opened the gates, they moved the barricades out of 157 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: the way, and they let them into the White House. 158 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 159 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: There would have been people who broke stuff, there would 160 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: have been people who went crazy. That's what happened at 161 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: the Capitol. We've seen the video of it, so you 162 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: see why is one side treated like a terrorist insurrection? 163 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: Of course that's what they call it, and the other 164 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: it's it's a vibrant First Amendment exercise. Burning down a 165 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: church next to the White House with a mob screaming 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: crazy things. 167 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's First Amendment exercise. 168 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: Great point here, by the way, the sentences. I thought 169 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: these were right, but I wanted to make sure we 170 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: got them right. A judge has sentenced a lawyer to 171 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: one year and one day in prison for throwing a 172 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: Molotov cocktail into a police car and burning it down. 173 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: There were two of them. The other person got fifteen months. 174 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: So to contextualize, you intentionally create a violent incendiary device 175 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: that is often used by terrorist vandals may're do wells worldwide. 176 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: A Molotov cocktail. 177 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: It's actually a weapon of war, as we know, created 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: by the Finns to fight against the Soviet invasion of Finland. 179 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Boom. 180 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: You throw it intentionally in a cop car, but that 181 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: cop car could have blown up. There could have been 182 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: a police officer in close proximity. There could have been 183 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: civilians in close proximity. You are a lawyer, which means 184 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 4: you're help to it even higher standard under the law. Right, 185 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: It's not as if you're even just a regular person 186 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: one year one year in New York City. Probably given 187 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: the lenient release rates of New York City police, probably 188 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: that person is almost already out a few months. I 189 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: would bet behind bars is what's going to end up 190 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: being required and back out on the streets for a 191 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: Molotov cocktail. 192 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: How would you justify that? 193 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: If you are a reasonable person and you are comparing 194 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: what the Proud Boys did with another protest that occurred 195 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: that was far more violent and that was intentionally violent 196 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: in nature, I would just love for somebody out there 197 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: to explain the disparate sentences there. 198 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: If anything. 199 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: Buck wouldn't you think, just being rational human, that you 200 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: would sentence the molotov cocktail throwers far more severely, and 201 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: you would anybody associated with January sixth at all. 202 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: Well, of course, I mean any of the violent actions 203 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: that you can see. And this is a function of 204 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: what is on video. There's a lot of video of 205 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: all of the BLM riots. And this also goes into 206 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: a comp where they're attacking cops and they're doing violent things. 207 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 3: And Kamala Harris was helping to raise fail money for them, 208 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: current Vice president. That's right at the time, she was saying, 209 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: let's get money these people, Let's get them out as 210 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: soon as possible, let's help them. And there's no problem 211 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: taken with that, with that at all, I believe, And 212 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm looking for the exact numbers on this, but Andy 213 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: know who probably does more to show the radical left, 214 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean the anti foamilitant radical left than any other 215 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: journalists in America right now. 216 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: I think that he had up that. 217 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: The longest yes, here we go, the longest sentence for 218 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: a leftist rioter who committed federal crime in twenty twenty 219 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: was in Portland. The guy got ten years in federal prison. 220 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: For you see for using explosives. 221 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: To try to commit attempted mass murder in Portland and 222 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: a leftist group paid his bail to get to get 223 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: him out. That guy got ten years so incendiary device 224 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: to commit mass murder, you get less time half the 225 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: time of being Enriquetario texting people very stupid things on 226 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: January sixth, but didn't throw moss off cocktail at anybody, 227 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: didn't actually assault law enforcement. You know, it's it's tough, Clay, 228 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: It's tough for people to see this because I know 229 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: the question and maybe we should deal with this a 230 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: little bit. People say, well, you're telling us the problem, 231 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: what do we do about it? We need the American 232 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: people to wake up, see what's happening with you. The 233 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: answer is, we need a majority of the American people 234 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: to understand something's gone very wrong in our justice system 235 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: and want to do something about it. 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The Clay 258 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 259 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: Welcome Back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton Show, Buck I 260 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: want to correct something that I said yesterday on the show. 261 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: As we always endeavor to get the factual details right. 262 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: There is a school in Montgomery County, Maryland, that is 263 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: just north of Washington, DC. Everything that I said is right. 264 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: They are mandating unless they have changed in the last 265 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: few minutes, which I don't believe they have, in ninety 266 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: five masks for elementary school kids over a few positive 267 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: cases in a classroom in that school. I shared the 268 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: letter I read from it yesterday live on the air. 269 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: I said it. 270 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: I don't even know if I said it on the 271 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: air what grade it was, but if I did, I 272 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: tweeted that it was a third grade classroom. That story's 273 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: actually worse. It's a kindergarten classroom. That story has gone 274 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: viral since we shared it yesterday. But I just wanted 275 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: to make sure for everybody out there listening, the details 276 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: are even worse than what I reported. I had a 277 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: source sent me that letter and I asked them to 278 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: redact the teacher's name because I didn't want the individual 279 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: teacher to be getting contacted and threatened because I doubt 280 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: that it's her individual decision that's being made. But I 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: went back and it is a kindergarten classroom. So I 282 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: said third grade. It is not a third grade classroom. 283 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: It was an elementary school. And everything else is accurate 284 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: about what I said, but I just want to make 285 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: sure that I got that right. Buck, And this school, 286 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: because there are so many people, this is the first 287 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: school that I've seen. You can correct me if I'm wrong. 288 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: That is mandating the return of masks, and this is 289 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: one individual classroom. And the school now has been inundated. 290 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: They are trying to stand by the decision they've made. 291 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: But this is why we have to fight, I think, 292 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: aggressively on all fronts over the attempt to mask kids. 293 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: Again, it's almost hard to find a place to start 294 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 3: the debate because the notion that masking children is in 295 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: any way reasonable or effective at this point is it's 296 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: crazy beyond words. I don't really it's sitting there. This 297 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: is beyond flat earth stuff. I mean, this is just 298 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: some other universe of thinking, an analysis that people have 299 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: gotten caught up. And it's truly a it's a pluralistic delusion, 300 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: it's a mass hysteria. It's crazy town, and we got 301 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: to push you right, I mean, it's got to be 302 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: whack them all right away with these masks, men date 303 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: or else, They're going to come back big time. 304 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: If your cell. 305 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: Phone needs replacing, our friends at Puretalk have a brand 306 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: new five G Samsung Galaxy with your name on it. 307 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: Make the switch from your current cell phone carrier to 308 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Puretalk and upgrade to this new five G Samsung Galaxy 309 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: from Puretalk for free. 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Dial pound two fifty 319 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: say clay and buck for your free, super durable five 320 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: G Samsung Galaxy when you switch to Puretalk. That's pound 321 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: two to five zero on your current phone, Say Clay 322 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: and buck pound two five zero say Clay and buck 323 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: on your phone. Puretalk is simply smarter wireless Welcome back, team. 324 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: You know, Clay and I were just talking about this. 325 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: I think it's worth bringing to your attention. We talk 326 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: about what's going on here with this, the the sentencing 327 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: of Enrique Terario to twenty two years for essential for 328 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: text effectively for text messages, for words and some of 329 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: the things that he wrote. As we said, you know, 330 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: we're taking back the government for the people. This is 331 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: seventeen seventy six all over again. I read from the 332 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: court transcript and the indictment. Yeah, that's not reality. But 333 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: to get twenty two years in federal prison for that 334 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: with no parole, mind you federal system. Unless I'm missing something, 335 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: they've reformed it dramatically. I don't think you can get 336 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: parole in the federal system. So you're serving the sentence 337 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: unless someone comes in people point this out and commutes 338 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 3: or pardons. 339 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: In these cases. 340 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: And given that many of these individuals have already served 341 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: pretty lengthy sentences just in pre trial confinement, you would 342 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: think that certainly commutation would be high on the list 343 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: of what some Republican presidents would want to do here. 344 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: But you know, Clay, I was looking over this because 345 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: the only other seditious conspiracy charges that have been successful. 346 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: Just soever understands the gravity of this. There were Al 347 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: Qaeda cells, the blind Shaik who was also running an 348 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: al Qaeda cell, and operatives who were responsible for the 349 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three World Trade Center bombing. There was in 350 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five, the Sheikh omar abdel Rochmann and nine 351 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: of his followers were convicted in a plot to blow 352 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: up the United Nations an FBI building, two tunnels, and 353 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: a bridge linking New York and New Jersey. So massive 354 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: terrorist attack conspiracies trying to blow up whole buildings, kill 355 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: thousands of people, that's what they've gone after before. The 356 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: only other one that comes up is the group of 357 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: I think it was seven individuals in Michigan back in 358 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: twenty ten, the Hutari. They were some kind of a 359 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: militia group, and the FBI had an informant, and the 360 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: Hutari said a lot of very again, very stupid, very 361 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: unwise things. I think people are starting to figure out too. 362 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: If you got a guy in your group who's pushing 363 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: you all the time to say crazier and crazier things, 364 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: the chance that that person may actually be working for 365 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: the federal government, either officially or as a an informant. 366 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 2: Is pretty pretty high. 367 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: But the Hutari, the seven, they were acquitted on the 368 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: seditious conspiracy charge because it was just them saying stuff, again, 369 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: not stuff that people should be saying, but they were saying, 370 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: you know, oh, we're gonna you know, we're eh, buddy, 371 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna overthrow the government, or you know, we're gonna 372 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna hurt cops, We're gonna we're gonna harm police officers, 373 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: be violent against police officers. Well, they didn't actually do that, 374 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: and they had no plans to do it. So the 375 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: whole thing is, as I was reading about this today, 376 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: got thrown out. This is all to say the Proud Boys, 377 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: individuals that have been charged that have been convicted here 378 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 3: and some others as well oathkeepers. They're now, as far 379 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: as Democrats are concerned, line up alongside the blind Shake, 380 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: which is basically pre bin Laden. I mean, the blind 381 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: Shake was a wanna be bin Laden. That's where we 382 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: are now according to the federal government under the Biden regime. 383 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: And this is all a goal to create the idea 384 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 4: that Donald Trump is a unique and evil threat to 385 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: America and directly would take on dictatorial powers if he 386 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: has the ability to do so, and that narrative, which 387 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: plays with some middle of the road voters, and frankly, 388 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 4: as we have been talking about, is very productive in 389 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: terms of motivating suburban, college educated women in particular to 390 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 4: vote against Donald Trump when they may actually agree with 391 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: many other of his policies. It's completely blown up buck 392 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: this argument because. 393 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: If this were all true, if you truly. 394 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: Believed that Donald Trump was America's hitler, and if you 395 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: truly believed that Donald Trump was a threat in the 396 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 4: likes of which we have not seen since Pearl Harbor 397 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: or the Civil War or nine to eleven, would you 398 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: be trying to pick him as the Republican nominee. I 399 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: just I come back to this, and this is where 400 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: if we had an honest news media, they would be 401 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: aggressively questioning all Democrats about this. You see the data, right, 402 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean, because we talked about the data yesterday. Every 403 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: time Donald Trump gets charged with a crime, his standing 404 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: in the Republican primary goes up. 405 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: So I think they have an answer to this, or 406 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: at least I think I know what the leftis. Yet, 407 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: what do you think they this is that to truly 408 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: crush maga to take it beyond, you know, the make 409 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: America Great Again political movement. To truly crush it, they 410 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: must beat Trump politically and legally. I think that's the 411 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: argument that they would make that they want to. They 412 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: basically want to beat him at the ballot box and 413 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: throw him in prison, and that will finally crush I'm 414 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: just again, if you're asking me what their rational rationalization is. 415 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: They they want him because one they think they can win. 416 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: I think it's amazing people say no, they don't. Yeah, 417 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: they do, I promise you. I know Democrats they think 418 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean they will. People need to have this 419 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: this barrier in the brain here. What the what the 420 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: opposition thinks doesn't make it true, but we should at 421 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: least know what the opposition thinks. There is not a 422 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: single part of them that is hesitant or concerned. As 423 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Trump's poll numbers in the primary rise with these indictments, 424 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: not one day you will not find a single Demo 425 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: crowd of any standing who's going, oh, oh, you know. 426 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: I think there are some Democrats are realizing, what are 427 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: we going to do with all these trials? Are we 428 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: really going to lock this guy up? I think that 429 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: part of it is concerning to them, but their belief 430 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: is that they will win and then they will have 431 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: the opportunity to brings Because I do think you're right 432 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: that some of these trials, I think two are going 433 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: to go before, and they think two will go after. 434 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: You think one will go before and three will go after. Right, Yeah, 435 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four, their idea is he will lose 436 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: and then he will face justice, and then they will 437 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: crush the Make America Great Again movement. I think that's 438 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: why the left they think they win on all fronts 439 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: with this one. It's pretty terrifying to think of it 440 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: that way, but I do believe that is the mentality. 441 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 4: I get it, and I do agree that they think 442 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: that Trump, as a quadruple charged felon, is a toxic candidate. 443 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: My point is, just if you truly believed that Trump 444 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: and the MAGA movement was a direct threat to America, 445 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: you wouldn't want him in the final battle, right. You 446 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: wouldn't want him as the nominee. You would want to 447 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 4: knock him out and have somebody else as the Republican 448 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 4: primary nominee. 449 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 5: Right. 450 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: I agree that they would like to knock him out politically, 451 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: but if you truly thought, for instance, how many people 452 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: out there listening to us right now, oh, voted in 453 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: a primary against Bernie Sanders rather than elevate Bernie Sanders 454 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: because you out there were thinking Bernie Sanders is the 455 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 4: real threat. Oh, even though Biden basically ran as and 456 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: turned into Bernie Sanders once he was in office. 457 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: They don't They don't really think Trump is Hitler. I mean, 458 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's right. But then this is 459 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: their argument as to why they're doing all of this. 460 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: Of course, of course it's dishonest, but if you're looking, 461 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: if you were sitting in a DNC strategy session, as 462 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: to why they're pushing, Yeah, they don't really think he's hitler, 463 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: but they think that they can beat him. They think 464 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: they can lock him up. I do believe, and I 465 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: know this is hard for some people to process that 466 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: they will try to actually incarcerate Donald Trump if they can. 467 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to be able to 468 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: get a conviction. I don't know if a judge will 469 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: actually go for it. But Democrats would like that outcome, 470 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: even if it's for a short period of time, even 471 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: if it's for home confinement, because remember to really understand 472 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: the Democrat the Democrat brain on this Trump. It's worse 473 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: than that he beat them in twenty sixteen, and that 474 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: he for four years defied all the efforts to undermine 475 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: him destroy him. Trump humiliated the Democrat ruling class. He 476 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: humiliated them. They have no ability whatsoever to get past this. 477 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: The only thing that will satiate them is the utter 478 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: humiliation of Donald Trump and the destruction of his political movement. 479 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: They want, what I'm saying is they want It's not 480 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: enough to beat Trump. They want to humiliate him in 481 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: the most extreme way they possibly can. They want to 482 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: see him in handcuffs, and they want to see him 483 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: marched into a prison cell. And even then they'll think 484 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: that they're the good guys in this process. 485 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: Oh totally, And that to me represents the ultimate lie 486 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: that's being foisted upon us. 487 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Buck. 488 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 4: Every day I read the New York Times editorial page, 489 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: so all of you do not have to. Just to 490 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: be clear, every single day I sit and read the 491 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: New York Times editorial page as part of my prep, 492 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: and the Wall Street Journal, and the Wall Street Journal 493 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: certainly which I tend to agree with more, but then 494 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: also the Washington post. The number of quote unquote intelligensia 495 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: out there in the media industry that continues to sell this, 496 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is the biggest threat to America since the 497 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: Civil War, since nine to eleven, since Pearl Harbor picked 498 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: your dastardly historical analogy du joure. The number that continue 499 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: to sell this, And it's one thing for Democrats to 500 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: sell it, which I believe is a lie, but lots 501 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: of politicians unfortunately lie. 502 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: That's part of the game. 503 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: For media, which ostensibly exists buck to call balls and 504 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: strikes and is supposed to hold people accountable in positions 505 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: of power, to continue to propagate this lie and not 506 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 4: go directly to the point that we've been making on 507 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: this program, which is, if you really cared about true, 508 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: free and fair elections, wouldn't putting one of the prime 509 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: candidates in prison be kind of a big threat to 510 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: free and fair elections on its face. 511 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone who is a serious person really 512 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: believes anymore that the that the corporate media have used 513 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: its job as speaking truth to. 514 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: Power and being defenders of the republic. 515 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I try to argue that I think you're right, 516 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: but I think it. 517 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 518 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you think the New York 519 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: Times newsroom really believes that they're nonpartisan and they speak 520 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: truth to I mean I think that still because like 521 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: MSNBC doesn't think that, CNN doesn't think that, which is 522 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: why the whole place blew up. I don't know, I 523 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: mean maybe I mean that that that's kind of terrifying 524 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: if you're right, try I'm telling you. 525 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm telling you the people with the biggest mind virus 526 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: right now reside in, for instance, the New York Times. 527 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: Because and we'll play this guy, this Washington Post opinionist 528 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 4: who this thing has gone viral. 529 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't think we've played it on the show yet. 530 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: We'll Bill bumpered hour. Let's let's do it. 531 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: Let's let's do Phil Bump coming up here in a second, 532 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: he runs away, does not like the questions. 533 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: I think it's so perfectly emblematic of these journalists bearing 534 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: their heads in the sands. 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You'll listen to. 564 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: It is exactly what. 565 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: I have He ever chirped at you on Twitter before? 566 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: I think he's chirped at me on Twitter before. But 567 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: they all this is sort of question this sort of 568 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: you know, like Washington Post cringing. Uh, you know, media 569 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: writers and New York Times media writers. They all just 570 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: blend in for me. I don't really know who's who. 571 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: Let's got. 572 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: We got a couple of callers, by the way, who 573 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: want a way in before. We're going to be joined 574 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: by Julie Kelly uh here in what like a little 575 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: bit over ten minutes. 576 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 577 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: I also throw out there on a on another radio show, 578 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm hearing that Trump has said that he will testify, 579 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: he will take the stand in his defense. 580 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: I think we do we have that audio now, yeah, 581 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: let's play that act now that we play it right now? Trump, Well, 582 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: you said this, and I think it's one hundred percent right, 583 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: because the. 584 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: More more cameras there are, the more. 585 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: Likely it is. On the witness stand. 586 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: As soon as they said that, there would be cameras 587 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: on like one hundred percent. Trump is going to take 588 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: the stand here he this is on the Hugh hewittt program. 589 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Play it. So if you have to go to trial, 590 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: will you testify in your own defense? 591 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: Oh? 592 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, that stand? 593 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: Would that I look. 594 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 5: Forward to it, because that's just like Russia, Russia, Russia, 595 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 5: that's all the fake information from Russia, Russian Russian. Remember 596 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 5: when the dossier came out and everyone said, oh, that's 597 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 5: so terrible, that's so terrible, and then it turned out 598 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: to be it was a political report put out by 599 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton and the DNC. They paid millions for it, 600 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: They gave it to Christopher Steele. They paid millions and 601 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 5: millions of dollars for it, and it was all fake. 602 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 603 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: Can I just say, Clay, I know that right now, 604 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: and like the lawyer, the lawyer in you, I'm sure 605 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: consider they're going, dude, come on, like, you cannot do that. 606 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: Every lawyer will tell you in unless it's a total 607 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: hell Mary situation. I mean it says you don't. 608 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: I just know this. You just watch enough televised legal dramas. 609 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: You know you don't take the stand in your own 610 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: in your own defense, and it's a hell Mary kind 611 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: of situation if you think you're losing. And Trump will 612 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: absolutely take the stand. I'm telling you right. It doesn't 613 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: matter what his lawyers say, doesn't matter what advice he gets. 614 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: Trying to stop Trump from taking the stand in his 615 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: own defense will be like trying to stop a freight 616 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: train with some twine. 617 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: It's not happening. 618 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: Just to be fair, given that this is all basically 619 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: a show trial, Trump is the ultimate showman to be 620 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: on trial and. 621 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: He is able to make his case. 622 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: Again, we know, I believe I'm correcting this buck that 623 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: the Atlanta case they have already said would be televised 624 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: right now. I don't think that case is going to 625 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 4: be able to go to trial before the elections. I 626 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: think that's the one that's the biggest mess of all 627 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: of them. I also have argued and I think the 628 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: Trump team and this may be something where there's a 629 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: little bit of bypartisan agreement. I think the Trump team 630 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: has already said, yes, we think this should be televised, 631 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: meaning the federal courts, because typically they don't allow cameras. 632 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: They even like won't let you take phones in. 633 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: To take pictures. Have you seen the wire? Right? 634 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 635 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, remember when I don't remember his name, it's been 636 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: a long time since I saw the series. But when 637 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: the corrupt Baltimore politician who's clearly I'm not saying Trump 638 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: is clearly guilty, but I'm just who is clearly guilty, 639 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: but who just decides that he's just going to use 640 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 3: the defense stand or you know, to the witness stand 641 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 3: as a pulpit if you will, and just go right. 642 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: To the jury. And Jerry's like, you know what, we 643 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: like this guy. He stands with us. 644 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: That's why Trump will take the stand, because he doesn't 645 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter. He's going to be speaking to 646 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: the America people, and he'll be speaking to the even 647 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 3: if it's only one person in that jury. 648 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: Who is going to get fired up by making America 649 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: great again. That's that's the move for him. I don't know. 650 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: It's different laws, different rules for Trump. 651 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: Honestly, good question for people out there to think about. 652 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: You know, MSNBC and CNN would not cover Trump addressing 653 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 4: his arrest in Fulton County, right, They cut away when 654 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: he was standing on the tarmac addressing the media and 655 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: the Rachel Maddows of the World had a fainting fit 656 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: and said, oh, we could never allow Trump to speak 657 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: to you. Wouldn't MSNBC and CNN have to take Trump 658 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: live on the witness stand, in which case their audiences, 659 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 4: the MSNBC and CNN audiences would be exposed to Trump 660 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 4: speaking directly to them in a way that frankly, they 661 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 4: hadn't been in years, in the same way that Trump 662 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 4: was captivating and I think moved people in his direction 663 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 4: in the CNN town hall. I actually think if this 664 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 4: were occurring in the advance of an election, that actually 665 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: may very well be beneficial for Trump because he's often 666 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: very good at making his case and he would just 667 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: plow right through whoever was trying to ask him questions. 668 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: It will be, i mean, the most widely watched trial 669 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: since the Ojks. 670 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's for sure, and we'll see if it 671 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: actually goes. 672 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: I think you're right by the way, it's not going 673 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: to happen the next eighteen months.