WEBVTT - Drive Time: Jets Perspective with Antwan Staley

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<v Speaker 1>Drives on with Travis Wingfield begins now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me check your pulse if you're not fard.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what is up?

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast, part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>finally we have gone to the new week. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Antwine Stay of ny Daily News to find out

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<v Speaker 1>why the Jets have changed or how they've changed in

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<v Speaker 1>the last four weeks. We'll hear from assistant coaches and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel will also pick the week fifteen games that

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<v Speaker 1>kick off tonight with a snoozefest in Las Vegas from

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Draft Time Podcast. Ye daffy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how we do it on Thursdays. My guest a Twine Stay,

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<v Speaker 1>joining me now, is a longtime friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a writer, and an overall good dude.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a columnist at the New York Daily News.

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<v Speaker 1>Antwine Stay, Antoine, how you living, brother?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good, Travis, how you doing man.

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<v Speaker 3>Not too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about us off there a little bit. Still

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<v Speaker 1>a tough week, still getting over some things here in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of our first like unexpected loss of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You move on and you have a big game coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on Sunday at home against a division rival and

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to sweep a team that you love to

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<v Speaker 1>sweep every time you get a chance to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So our focus has shifted and pivoted there. And we

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<v Speaker 1>always start these interviews Antoine, as you know, you've done

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<v Speaker 1>a few things with being the best that the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>positions where we start, and it'll be a different quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>as far as Miami is concerned compared to who they

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<v Speaker 1>saw back on Black Friday, But the same devil the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets have danced with for really the last three years

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<v Speaker 1>in Zach Wilson. I think all state it as basic

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<v Speaker 1>as I can to you here, Antwine. What changed in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the Houston game compared to not

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<v Speaker 1>just the first half of the game or the season

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<v Speaker 1>prior this year, to the first three years of Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson's career. What changed where he came out like a

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<v Speaker 1>man on fire and played a really good football game.

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<v Speaker 5>Off like he just let it rip, and they said

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<v Speaker 5>he was going to do that coming into the week,

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna have fun. He played like a man that

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<v Speaker 5>had nothing to lose. I mean, he's already been benched

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<v Speaker 5>three times in his career. Obviously a lot of people aren't,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of bullet shown, Zach. But he was decided,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, instead of overthinking and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 5>to process all these information at one time, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>going to go back to my BYU days and just

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<v Speaker 5>let it chuck it down the field. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's what he did. And they opened up the playbook

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<v Speaker 5>for to theay. Hackett did a great job with that

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<v Speaker 5>some of the play calling. Jack got the ball to

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<v Speaker 5>his playmakers and Garrett Wilson and Breese Hall and just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of let them do the work. And I definitely

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<v Speaker 5>think despite him, you know, losing the fumble in that

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<v Speaker 5>game and being sat multiple times and all the issues

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<v Speaker 5>on the Jets office the line, you know, he stayed

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<v Speaker 5>confident and poised with the face with the rush pass

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<v Speaker 5>rush in his face.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's very.

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<v Speaker 5>Different than what he had been in the past, where

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<v Speaker 5>if you put any kind of pressure on that he

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<v Speaker 5>would just throw the ball in the coverage and you

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<v Speaker 5>know he wouldn't be able to use it, wouldn't you know,

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<v Speaker 5>make the right decision. But also I was impressed with

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<v Speaker 5>his like off scheduling play as well, Like he had

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<v Speaker 5>a ball where he was throwing on the run and

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<v Speaker 5>got the ball to Garrett and also Tyler Cocklin too

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<v Speaker 5>as well, And you know, I thought he was really

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<v Speaker 5>impressive just kind of they all scheduled and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not necessarily traditional things that you know he

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<v Speaker 5>typically does in the offense, which I think a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people fell in love, including the gist, fell in love.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing the pre draft process. So that that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>what stuck out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the famous pro day thrill, right, like that was

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<v Speaker 1>why yes, fans fell in love with him, why he

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<v Speaker 1>was a second overall pick.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, and you know it fee listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>drive time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I really harp on this hard that that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't what wins in the NFL, man, Like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to win from instructure in the pocket and beat teams

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<v Speaker 1>to their mind. Otherwise you're going to be a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that shows flashes and doesn't have staying power in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I was kind of, for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better term, just flat out and pressed because he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing that way and reading the hots and getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to replace those hot blitz as the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>were sending it him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really I think that this.

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<v Speaker 1>This week is the big test for him, Antoine, because

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody can have one good game, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like not anybody, but for the most part, like players

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<v Speaker 1>can pop up for one good game, it's how you

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<v Speaker 1>follow up when the tape is out there. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins adjust to how he was able to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play with that comp maybe you can, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you can turn it against him. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this week is a big test in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of where Zach Wilson's career goes from here. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder about that, like does he still have that same, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, f at mentality, because now there's pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I can revitalize my career here in this spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a fascinating dynamic heading into this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kind of pivot here to something similar

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<v Speaker 1>that we just you just mentioned yourself that and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Jets fans on Twitter, insisting that they've been way

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<v Speaker 1>too conservative all year that they finally opened up the

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<v Speaker 1>playbook in the second half of that game for the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you saw? And like, what does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean exactly? Because like if that's the case, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>was week fit fourteen, Like the hell took so long?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, basically, you know Nathaniel Hackett, like he's very predictable.

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<v Speaker 5>And I harped on this like when they played the

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<v Speaker 5>Raiders last month that you know, I tell you your

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<v Speaker 5>pears to end on. Coach was saying when they had

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<v Speaker 5>they want to run the football and that shows I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't necessarily a disc but it kind of was

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<v Speaker 5>because it showed like the predictability of the Jets offense

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<v Speaker 5>and that's kind of you know, it's been frustrating for

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of fans, and it's even covered the team

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<v Speaker 5>that you know they'll first down start the game, you

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<v Speaker 5>know they're gonna run, and that's exactly what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>And they get in these formations where you know what

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna do, and Hacket, you know, the second half

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<v Speaker 5>like they would be in these run formations, but they

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<v Speaker 5>would decide to pass or they do it end around

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<v Speaker 5>or you know they would do. You know, they've done

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<v Speaker 5>fleet clickers at times too as well. So yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 5>he's decided to open it up, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>you know, back to Zach Wilson's just you know, let

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<v Speaker 5>it rip and just have fun mentality. And I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Hackett kind of identified that too as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was kind of a conversation, you know

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<v Speaker 5>between the coaches at halftime, was saying when it was

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<v Speaker 5>there were it was zero zero at halftime, and then

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, everything just kind of flipped. The

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<v Speaker 5>Jets got the ball and went down the field and scored,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, everything else is kind of fell into

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<v Speaker 5>place after that. But I think a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 5>deserve to go to Hacket as well for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>having the confidence to you know, open up the playbook,

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<v Speaker 5>especially with Zach because you know, Aaron obviously, Aaron was

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<v Speaker 5>his guy when he came here, and everything was catered

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<v Speaker 5>towards Aaron Rodgers, and of course he got hurt, so

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<v Speaker 5>it took him a little while to try to trust

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<v Speaker 5>that with the offense.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think you're kind of seeing it now. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just now to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Point whehere they've decided to open things up, and this,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, being four and eight, five and eight, now

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<v Speaker 5>that to decide, you know, we have nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let's just go ahead and chuck it in

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<v Speaker 5>and see what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and shame less me promote some of

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<v Speaker 1>my previous content once again here because it provides another

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<v Speaker 1>solid footnote. And something that I really harp on for

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins fans and football fans alike, is like, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>too caught in what you think a team is for

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<v Speaker 1>one game or for whatever, like, for however long it

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<v Speaker 1>might be, because things can change in this thing so

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<v Speaker 1>dang fast. Because prior to this game, like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Jets offense that couldn't move the ball, couldn't convert

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<v Speaker 1>third downs, never scored more than one touchdown in a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're talking about them like this. This new offense

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<v Speaker 1>was birth out of you know, this rest of attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see, like you said, it gave him a

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<v Speaker 1>steppings to see where the can go from here. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just never know how things materialize. It's just why

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<v Speaker 1>this league is so much fun and why it's so unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also tend to get into these bodes where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's who they are now. That's just never

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<v Speaker 1>how it is. Man, This game changes all the day time.

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<v Speaker 1>So good stuff there. And speaking of things that change,

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line of the Jets has been a turnstile

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the people they've had available, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>injuries have mounted and the same the same story is

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<v Speaker 1>true over here for Miami right now. But the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line got some more parts back compared to what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw on Black Friday, with Makai Beckton coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's far from.

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<v Speaker 1>Healthy, but how did that group do you think contribute

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<v Speaker 1>to the win against the Houston Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that I think that was solid too. Like

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<v Speaker 5>you said, beck And played did not played. You know

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<v Speaker 5>West Swicheler, who that has been typically right right guard

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<v Speaker 5>as a lady like, he's out for the season now

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<v Speaker 5>with a calf injury. So they end up having to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, go with Hanson there who was at the

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<v Speaker 5>right guard position, and there at MaTx Mitchell, who you know,

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<v Speaker 5>crazy enough he also you know he also was limited

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<v Speaker 5>in practice on Wednesday due to a neck injury. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they've they've had two different lineups, like different

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<v Speaker 5>combinations on the office a lot in fourteen games like

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<v Speaker 5>that is just you know, murderous role. As far as

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<v Speaker 5>I know, the Dolphins are kind of close behind too.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe they've had nine like you can you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you can clarify that for me too, But I know

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<v Speaker 5>both of these teams have probably been hit the hardest

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<v Speaker 5>by offensive a lot of injuries all year long, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they just hadn't had the continuity. But even

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<v Speaker 5>despite that, I thought, you, Zach and even with the

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<v Speaker 5>pressure that was in his face, like, he still was able.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I was impressed with He was still able

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<v Speaker 5>to get the ball out pretty quickly to his playmakers.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, he wasn't rattled like I've seen in

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<v Speaker 5>other games this year. And you know, the run run

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<v Speaker 5>Like running the ball was still a bit of a challenge,

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<v Speaker 5>sip because I think teams are expected to just to

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<v Speaker 5>run the ball quite frequently. So Britest Hall hasn't had

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<v Speaker 5>this assess that. I think a lot of people expected

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<v Speaker 5>him too early.

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<v Speaker 4>On this year.

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<v Speaker 5>But you did see some lanes start to open up

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<v Speaker 5>in the second half where he's able to get save

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<v Speaker 5>some big games there. But yeah, I definitely think the

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<v Speaker 5>run the rushing the rushing attack needs to be kind

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<v Speaker 5>of plan, you know, you know, moving into a game

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<v Speaker 5>against the Dolphins where Miami, as you know, has one

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<v Speaker 5>of the best pass rushes in the NFL, especially I

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<v Speaker 5>believe the third in the league in sets coming into

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<v Speaker 5>this game. And you know, despite Zach having a game

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<v Speaker 5>that he did against Houston, you definitely don't want him

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<v Speaker 5>dropping back throwing the ball more than thirty times in

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<v Speaker 5>this game and.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he from the New York Delay News my guest

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<v Speaker 1>today talking Dolphins and Jets. I had a Sunday's match

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<v Speaker 1>up here at hard Rock Stadium, week number fifteen. Big,

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<v Speaker 1>big game for the Miami Dolphins. Let's go over to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the football here and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a stout Jets defense. And first, you know, you're around

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<v Speaker 1>the guys, you know, Antoine in the locker room and

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<v Speaker 1>press conferences, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious the mood this week because last time we

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<v Speaker 1>saw these two teams, like the Dolphins took it to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets and really beat them at what they do best,

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<v Speaker 1>like Tyreek got deep, Wadald got deep.

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<v Speaker 4>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a big game besides the picks, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was playing well. The running game got off. I

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<v Speaker 1>had that long touchdown driving the second half with pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much exclusively the running game. What's the mood around Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>week for the Jets this week?

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<v Speaker 5>And I want to go in too against the Miami

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<v Speaker 5>And that's basically what it is, is another opportunity for

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<v Speaker 5>them to you know, not get swept against the division opponent.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't get swept.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't get swept against the Bills, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they went't one in one. They don't want to get

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<v Speaker 5>swept against, obviously the Dolphins. And they have another game

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<v Speaker 5>against the Patriots that you know, they can try to

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<v Speaker 5>end that dreaded streak against. They have beat the Patriots

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<v Speaker 5>its twenty fifteen, which is crazy to think about. But

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<v Speaker 5>back to the Dolphins. Yeah, they you know, they understand

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<v Speaker 5>the situation. They understand that they're trying to play spoiler.

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<v Speaker 5>There has been a tremendous season for the Dolphins there

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<v Speaker 5>and they're trying to get another victory. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>team went on a five game losing streak basically right

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<v Speaker 5>after they win against the Giants, and it was a struggle.

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<v Speaker 5>It was definitely difficult for the team. You know, they

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't score with a whole lot of points. Offensively, the

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<v Speaker 5>defenses was you know, carrying a heavy load. They're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to win games for them, just like in the first

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<v Speaker 5>Dolphins game where you know, Brendon Epples had that pitch

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<v Speaker 5>sits and you're thinking, oh, well, the Jets are back

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<v Speaker 5>in it just because the defense made a play. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean finally their offense kind of stepped up and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, took the rains last week. But defensively, they

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<v Speaker 5>understand what the situation is with Miami and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>having you know, multiple backups at the offensive line position,

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<v Speaker 5>Tyler Williams obviously you know, a big, large form.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm definitely curious to see.

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<v Speaker 5>How you know, they you know, got against it and

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<v Speaker 5>try to block Quinn Williams, who you know, his SAT

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<v Speaker 5>numbers aren't necessarily what it was a year ago, but

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<v Speaker 5>his pressure level if you look at it is just

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<v Speaker 5>as high, if not higher, than what it was last

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<v Speaker 5>year when he had twelve SATs. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be the key to the game, just how

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<v Speaker 5>it's the Dolphins offensive line handled this chests defensive line

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<v Speaker 5>and also can does Miami you know, tend to run

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<v Speaker 5>the football a little bit more consider their offensive line situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Another another example there of you know, having to provide

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<v Speaker 1>context behind stats, because, like you mentioned, Quentin Williams is

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<v Speaker 1>still one of the best players in the entire league,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of position. I don't care what sack numbers say,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just watch the tape and yours. That guy's an

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<v Speaker 1>impactful player every single down, every single game. And you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the running game, they're a little bit antoine, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. There's so many fascinating like subplots of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, the Zach Wilson thing, like how can they

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<v Speaker 1>can the offense together two big games like that. On

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side, I thought Miami really went after the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets in a smart way. I'm just trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of that word right there, in an intelligent way in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of attacking the edge with the wide running game

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<v Speaker 1>and playing off of that in the passing game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious because I thought the two biggest plays in

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<v Speaker 1>that game back on Black Friday were those deep shots

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<v Speaker 1>to both Tyreek Hill and Jileen Waddle both to start

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<v Speaker 1>the first half y and to start the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I thought that kind of changed the way those

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<v Speaker 1>drives and the rest of the offense went that entire game.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expect a bounce back here from Sauce and Reed?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm curious to kind of hear your conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>those guys throughout the course of the week as they

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for a big challenge here against Tyreek killing

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<v Speaker 1>Jilen Waddle.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I'm sure they were not happy with the

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<v Speaker 5>way they performed there. I mean, as good as those

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<v Speaker 5>guys are Waddle who obviously had a big game, and

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<v Speaker 5>of course Tyree made some big plays too as well,

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<v Speaker 5>they were definitely not happy with the performers, especially consider

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<v Speaker 5>and I mean the Jets game be'st the most the

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<v Speaker 5>Jets have given up all season long and force points,

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<v Speaker 5>so they defensive wise, they felt like they didn't do

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<v Speaker 5>enough to win their game, no matter how you know,

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<v Speaker 5>bad the offense was, and you know they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna want to redeem themselves, especially considering also the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that they end up giving up nearly one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>seventy yards on the ground, So whether it was stopping

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<v Speaker 5>trying to lack of stopping to run or also you know,

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<v Speaker 5>through the air, which the Jets have still have not

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<v Speaker 5>given up a three hundred yard passer. They almost did

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<v Speaker 5>that day, but did not give up a three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>yard passer and thirty one consecutive games. That's there in

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<v Speaker 5>their calling card. That's what they've hung their hat on

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<v Speaker 5>all year long, stopping opponent's room, throwing the ball down

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<v Speaker 5>deep form. And you know, I think they're gonna try

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<v Speaker 5>to do the same thing too against two of who's,

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<v Speaker 5>like I say, has success that you alluded to. Outside

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<v Speaker 5>the two picks in that game, Black Friday has had

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<v Speaker 5>succists in the air against this team too. A lot

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<v Speaker 5>of teams go into it not taking not taking shots

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<v Speaker 5>at Salts Guardener considering how good he is.

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<v Speaker 4>DJ reed, you know, kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>He's had a tremendous year in Michael Carter, the second,

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<v Speaker 5>who I think is one of the better slot corners

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<v Speaker 5>in football, as we'll talk about, I'm sure, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they really hunt their hat on, like how they stopped

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<v Speaker 5>the past pass average and you know, also passing deep

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<v Speaker 5>passes and it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>Play throughout the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that Houston tape and like I thought, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good example of kind of a similar offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know their OC is off that Shanahan try

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So similar concepts there in terms of how they run things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I wonder if the Jets changed

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<v Speaker 1>it all, Like, Nope, they're gonna go out there, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play physical, they're gonna pressure, they're gonna challenge you

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<v Speaker 1>every step and you have to beat them and anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>until we see on Sunday here at Hard Rocks.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing that they did differently is then, especially

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<v Speaker 5>with a young quarterback and CJ, they brought more pressure

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<v Speaker 5>like they typically the Jets typically don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Let it's a whole lot, but they did that.

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<v Speaker 5>They usually just pressure with four and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>dropped seven back there. But they brought they brought pressure

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<v Speaker 5>a lot more than what they're used to in that

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<v Speaker 5>game against CJ and Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a good point because you probably won't do

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<v Speaker 1>that against two. That's where he's best. Against the Blitz,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably don't see much of that. We'll see, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know. The Jets can be aggressive in multiple ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned this and it will be the last question

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<v Speaker 1>before my my question. I asked everybody about how the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets can win this game. But I'm curious because you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned him and he wasn't in there for the game

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<v Speaker 1>back in week number two. Well, Michael Carter the second,

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<v Speaker 1>how does his return impact that defense?

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<v Speaker 5>It's huge because that gives you another defender who can

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<v Speaker 5>you know, help slow down and exposive offense with the

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<v Speaker 5>Dolphins too. And you know everybody talks about Waddell and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously Tyreek Hill, but you know you also have your

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<v Speaker 5>checking account. You know, Cedric Wilson as well, and Bratson Barrios,

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<v Speaker 5>who you know Jets fans know particularly well too as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And we know Mike Daniel likes to you know, scheme

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<v Speaker 5>up ways to you know, be able to get his

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<v Speaker 5>receivers open. But now you got another guy and Michael

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<v Speaker 5>Carter along with Brandon Eckles who you can also bring

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<v Speaker 5>in in but to also help slow down this dynamic

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<v Speaker 5>offense who can who loves to get those supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>plays through the air, and having a guy like him

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<v Speaker 5>is also can be a safety valve for also assaults

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<v Speaker 5>and also DJ Reed, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Just his with without him like it was big.

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<v Speaker 5>They were really struggling at times, like stopping those disposed

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<v Speaker 5>to plays that you saw on Black Friday. Now you

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<v Speaker 5>get him back and you know you can hope he

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<v Speaker 5>can try to prevent that as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that position Manon Nickel is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most underrated positions, and not just in football but

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<v Speaker 1>all of sports, because like the Jets run Nickel eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the time, so he's a key starter

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't have those guys like.

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<v Speaker 1>They can make it, because not many guys can play

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<v Speaker 1>that position. It's kind of like the center position. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's only like a handful of really goods in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. And when you have them, it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>have them. But if you don't like it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a saucepan and you can attack it. So good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff there, Antoine. I end the podcast here with the

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<v Speaker 1>opponent beat writer the same way every single week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you this, the Jets can win this game

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<v Speaker 1>if and then you get a chance to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the blank.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they have to be able to rush rush forward

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<v Speaker 5>too and get in his face too. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>we kind of saw that and gets the Titans there, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>if you if you bring pressure, like especially blitz against

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<v Speaker 5>two it he's going to pick you apart all game loll.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, you have to be able to rush for

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<v Speaker 5>the Jets typically like they're only rush for but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they have to be able to get some pressure in

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<v Speaker 5>his face because otherwise, like I mean, the man is

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<v Speaker 5>a surgeon out there, and you know, I know, you

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<v Speaker 5>know they struggle gets Titans there without Tyreek a times.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, whether he plays or not, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>might be Danvee's going to have a game plan, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>one way or the other. It's how to tack the

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<v Speaker 5>Jets defense. And yeah, you'd have to get you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to get that consistent pressure on him because

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<v Speaker 5>and otherwise I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be a long day.

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<v Speaker 5>And also stopping the run, like the Jets are twenty

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<v Speaker 5>eighth and stopping the run this year, we kind of

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<v Speaker 5>saw what they looked like in the first matchup there.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't stop the run, you know, a chan and

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<v Speaker 5>also spent where he movest to have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Really big day and he also could fuel Miami to

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<v Speaker 4>the win.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find him on social at Antoine Daley. You

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<v Speaker 1>can probably find him at the Elbow Room on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night too in Fort Lawerdell, New York Daily News.

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<v Speaker 3>Antwin you are the man. We'll see you Sunday. My friend,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds good and the way he goes, I love

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<v Speaker 3>that guy. He's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and take our first break right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Come back on the other side, we got McDaniel and

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coordinators, assistant coaches press conferences on a Thursday. That's

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<v Speaker 1>next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by I Don't Nation, Segment two on a Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from head coach Mike McDaniel on this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>as the schedule has changed a little bit down here

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<v Speaker 1>around Miami Gardens in terms of our weekly practice schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>walkthroughs on Thursday, no media session for practice, and that

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<v Speaker 1>means no exact injury updates, which means that coach will

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<v Speaker 1>have to provide those for us via his press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>which he did on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're setting a pr here.

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<v Speaker 6>For my tenure, but there's it's really just unknowns because

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<v Speaker 6>you know, for us we UH, we're orchestrating to walkthroughs today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where my mind's been wrapped up. I know there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Of people really really pushing themselves in terms of UH

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<v Speaker 6>rehab and and and there's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 6>really really want to go, uh work the taste out

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<v Speaker 6>of their mouth this week, and you know, there is

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of question marks. The one thing I am

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<v Speaker 6>not questioning is the the gusto with which whoever is

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<v Speaker 6>playing on Sunday will be providing. So we have a

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<v Speaker 6>very focused team on the New York Jets and there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of moving parts, but we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 6>handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the positions that we saw the attrition occur

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday night was at the safety spot with the

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<v Speaker 1>Javon Holland not playing and Deshaun Elliott going in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of the game, and of course Brandon Jones, Elijah Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Needham filling in for those responsibilities. Coach was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the difficulty of replacing those two traffic cops on

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<v Speaker 1>the back end as the communication of safety, as we've

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<v Speaker 1>learned this year without Deshaun in the game, without Javon

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<v Speaker 1>in a game can really be a stark contrast to

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<v Speaker 1>what you get with the starters. Here's Coach on just

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<v Speaker 1>that how difficult is it to prepare for a game

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't have your top signal callers on the

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<v Speaker 1>very back end?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think the difference is the reps and they've

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<v Speaker 6>Javon and those two they've had a a great season

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<v Speaker 6>working together. So anytime you have those processes kind of interrupted,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, there there's a there's communication, there's don't don't

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<v Speaker 6>get it twisted that they had. It was not their

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<v Speaker 6>fault that we that we gave up a lot of yards. Really,

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<v Speaker 6>from my advantage point, we've we've moved on because understanding

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<v Speaker 6>when you watch the tape, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>really good play in the course of the game by

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<v Speaker 6>all those players.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there wasn't. So we get down to why,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we.

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<v Speaker 6>Press forward to the New York Jets, which is where

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<v Speaker 6>I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>And the rest of the team is at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, this last one here is a long one

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<v Speaker 1>because he was asked about the conversations he had with

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangio following the Monday Night Let's call it what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, a collapse two touchdowns in the final four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of that football game to give the Titans the victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Still stings to say that, But he was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation with the Vic Fangio, and he touched on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also went more in depth on the feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and the emotion for the team and the fans. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was just a really good picture inside of

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<v Speaker 1>how McDaniel can compartmentalize what the team needs, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions and the feelings. Just really good stuff here

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<v Speaker 1>from your head, coach, and it's going to lead us

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<v Speaker 1>into our first bit of the third segment. Here here's

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<v Speaker 1>coach talking about the emotion and the need to control

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<v Speaker 1>that and get it under your belt, but also how

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<v Speaker 1>maybe sometimes these types of things can be wake up calls.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure if it's a silver lining or the

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<v Speaker 6>positive part of going through stuff together as a team.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen to any team that does anything worth anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes through stuff together. It's like a family like.

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<v Speaker 6>You, you know, I would imagine siblings fight and when

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<v Speaker 6>you get through it, you are stronger. Well, that was

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<v Speaker 6>a fight for us, really for for all three phases

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of emotional like. We put a lot into

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<v Speaker 6>it and we didn't get the results at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I very much am a person that looks at intent.

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<v Speaker 6>I try to communicate as best I can throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very aware of our defensive coordinator is one of,

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<v Speaker 6>if not the best defensive play callers.

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<v Speaker 2>That I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 6>You talk about timeliness of certain calls, You talk about

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<v Speaker 6>being on because your job is to prepare players and

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<v Speaker 6>put them in the best position to succeed. And so

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<v Speaker 6>within that, you know, knowing knowing the scheme and then

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<v Speaker 6>knowing knowing the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, each and every week, the last person.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm worried about out doing everything they can for the

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<v Speaker 6>team is Vic Fangio. So uh with that, we you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're teammates, so yeah, there there's there was no projection

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<v Speaker 6>on towards him. We we talked through what we saw,

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<v Speaker 6>why stuff happened, so that we can coach our players

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<v Speaker 6>so that you learn from it. You have the choice of, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>if something you have the choice of however you handle anything,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know that that can that can be a

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<v Speaker 6>great experience for a team if approached the right way.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's where our mind's been at, and you know

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<v Speaker 6>that really that happens you you approach your team and make.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that you guys are all you know, really.

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<v Speaker 6>Really taking in that pain the correct and appropriate way.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we've moved on to the New York Jets

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<v Speaker 6>because you can't I mean, at this point on this day,

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<v Speaker 6>if we would have won by forty or lost by forty,

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<v Speaker 6>what does that have to do with today. I know

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of feelings, as there should be because

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<v Speaker 6>people are invested, whether you're on the team or you're

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<v Speaker 6>a fan of it. But the bottom line is is

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<v Speaker 6>that we are constantly looking at what we're doing today

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<v Speaker 6>for the next game, and we're not. We can't live

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<v Speaker 6>in last game. Whether we won seventy to twenty or

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<v Speaker 6>lost twenty seven, really the same rep for us, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think the whole building feels the same. And we're

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<v Speaker 6>at Carpa DM on this what is today?

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday?

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<v Speaker 3>It is Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>And with AUS, go ahead and take our last break

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<v Speaker 1>right there and come back on the other side. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up with my thoughts on what coach touched

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<v Speaker 1>on right there. We'll also do the week fifteen game

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<v Speaker 1>picks all of that. Next Draft Time podcast, your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, Segment number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Here on a Thursday. We've got three TNF games left, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>lot's of Saturday games and some Christmas games and additional

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>games around the holidays. But it's almost over, Man, like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn enjoy it while it's here. Right, Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and get to the week fifteen picks. But first, before that,

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<v Speaker 1>I put together a little research project that was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my own curiosity, I suppose, getting the best

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<v Speaker 1>of me within the scope of two ideas, and those

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<v Speaker 1>ideas are that the doom and gloom panic after Monday

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<v Speaker 1>is nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteenth time this week, I feel like a pet died.

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<v Speaker 1>My stomach was being turned over itself the night of

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<v Speaker 1>the game all the way into Tuesday, through hard knocks.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucked, But the doom and gloom panic after Monday

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<v Speaker 1>was nonsense. But that's also totally fine to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit concerned, maybe even moderately concerned, but the whole

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna finish nine and eight thing, Come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>chill out, chill out. The loss sucked. But the truth

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<v Speaker 1>is the loss at center is bigger than the loss

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. And that's where most of my consternation

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. That in the dubious nature of the safety position,

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<v Speaker 1>which clearly is needed for this defense to play with

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<v Speaker 1>connectivity and be itself that we've come to known and love.

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<v Speaker 1>The last eight weeks of the season or whatever it's been.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me, though, that we were playing the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets on Sunday with Connor and Rob and Javon and

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun and all those guys are good to go even

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<v Speaker 1>without JP and Bake and tees dead, I'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>bet super Bowler bus still and even still, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the you know, computer cowboy ranking power rankings,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami is still in that tier of teams that could

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<v Speaker 1>make a legit Super Bowl run.

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<v Speaker 3>So all of that's still ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get how sometimes critical injuries at keyspots can

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<v Speaker 1>change things. Now that said, what inspired this little research

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<v Speaker 1>project was the Miami Miracle. Oh didn't have the angle.

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<v Speaker 1>A nine and three Patriots team had a five point

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<v Speaker 1>lead with seven seconds to play, and the Dolphins had

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<v Speaker 1>to go what was it, sixty four yards to win

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<v Speaker 1>the football game, and they got it, ted ted Ted

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Ted Ted Larson Key block nine and four. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they lost again the next week, nine in five. But

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<v Speaker 1>then they didn't lose a game the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>way and won the World Championship. So I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to look at some of the best teams the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl champs. The last ten or so years and how

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<v Speaker 1>their decembers have looked. And I'm not sitting here guaranteeing

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<v Speaker 1>you that this team will win the Super Bowl. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that Dolphins fans, all football fans, all football discourse,

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<v Speaker 1>are very good at losing perspective and doing so very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly in the emotional heat of the moment. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>will also never forget a younger, less mature, more naive,

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<v Speaker 1>still pretty mature, still maybe a little bit naive, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely more mature now than less than a twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>year old Travis, and that twenty five year old Travis saying,

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<v Speaker 1>man that most suck Hevin Joe Flakka was your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll never win you as super Bowl. He's good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to get you to the playoffs, but not to win

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl. And that was as they were nine

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<v Speaker 1>to two and proceeded to lose to a Charlie Batch

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<v Speaker 1>led Steelers team Washington overtime. Denver beat the Giants to

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<v Speaker 1>go ten and five and get in the playoffs, then

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<v Speaker 1>lose the finale to go to ten and six. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they beat the Colts at home Broncos in overtime, Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>in convincing fashion, and the AFC Championship Game, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they won the Super Bowl over John Harball's brother YEP

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<v Speaker 1>lost four of the last five and then won the

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<v Speaker 1>whole damn thing. Or the seven Giants, who lost two

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<v Speaker 1>of their three final games, finished ten and six and

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<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl, including three road playoff games en

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<v Speaker 1>route to knocking off the unbeaten Patriots. Those are both

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<v Speaker 1>outliers and not part of the research project I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do, but they belong in there because they're part

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<v Speaker 1>of the context of how football narratives almost never play

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<v Speaker 1>out that way. But let's go ahead and start last

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<v Speaker 1>year with the Chiefs and go back to that twenty

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>twelve Ravens team. So the twenty twenty two Chiefs, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost in Week thirteen to the Bengals. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one week before our first loss of December, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was their first game in December, and they won the

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<v Speaker 1>next eight games and the Super Bowl. They did have

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the Texans, a four and three thirteen Texans

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<v Speaker 1>team in overtime and narrowly escaped that game, and also

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<v Speaker 1>escaped a bad Broncos team that was at five and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven five and twelve Broncos team last year they beat

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<v Speaker 1>those that team by touchdown twice in the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. They lost to a Colts team earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that went four to twelve and one. Twenty twenty one

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Rams lost the last game of the year for them

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<v Speaker 1>to the Packers in November to fall into seven and four,

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<v Speaker 1>won five straight and then lost their season finale to

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<v Speaker 1>the Niners to fall to twelve and five. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>won four playoff games in the Super Bowl. The twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty Bucks lost to the and Chiefs and back to

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<v Speaker 1>back weeks to fall to seven and five into their

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<v Speaker 1>bye week and everybody thought they were cooked. Right then

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<v Speaker 1>they rattle off four straight to close it out, then

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<v Speaker 1>win four straight road playoff games. Pretty good example there.

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<v Speaker 1>They also lost to a Bears team that year that

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<v Speaker 1>went five and eleven. By the way, the twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs are a bad example. Their lost last lost. Last

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<v Speaker 1>last loss was on November tenth to a five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Titans team the twenty eighteen Patriots. We covered them miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in Week fourteen, kind of like the Titans miracle and

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<v Speaker 1>lost again and then ran through the playoffs and the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams in the Super Bowl, and that Miami team they

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<v Speaker 1>beat that year was their bad loss. That and the

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the six and ten Lions, but also a

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the five and eleven Jaguars. The twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles lost their first game in December, a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to ten stinker to the Seahawks. Then they lost their

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback the next week. Like that's your best example of

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<v Speaker 1>the Connor Williams loss. They lost their damn quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lose a game after that. Twenty sixteen Patriots another

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.959
<v Speaker 1>bad example. Patriots usually are. Last loss was November thirteenth.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good team, huh. Twenty fifteen Broncos. Here's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about like bad quarterback play. Who brock Osweiler goes

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<v Speaker 1>in for Peyton Manning and then they re they revived

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the corpse of Peyton mann to come back. They lose

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<v Speaker 1>back to back games in December to the Raiders and Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>have an overtime win against a Bengals team who was

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<v Speaker 1>down Andy Dalton, and then that was any Dalton's best year,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, not like he was better than what

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<v Speaker 1>you think of any Dalton that year. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown win over the Chargers to go twelve and four

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<v Speaker 1>before going through the AFC playoffs and winning a super Bowl.

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Twenty fourteen Patriots lost their last game on December first

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<v Speaker 1>of the Packers to fall to nine and three. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you just were. Then they lost the finale

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<v Speaker 1>to the Buffalo Bills, but they are resting starters in

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<v Speaker 1>that game and.

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<v Speaker 3>Won the Super Bowl.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Twenty thirteen. Seahawks lost on December eighth to San Francisco

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to fall to eleven and two. Beat the Giants, then

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the Cardinals, so two out of three games

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<v Speaker 1>to fall to twelve and three, and then they went

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<v Speaker 1>on to win the whole thing. And of course that

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve Ravens team one in four in December. And

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is that's us last year and they

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<v Speaker 1>had their quarterback. Because if we have Tua in the

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo game last year in the playoffs, we win that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens next week? Who knows, But you get what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Rarely hold up, especially when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the season. So eleven total teams here,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven super Bowl champions, All but two had a loss

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<v Speaker 1>in December, and in total, the eleven teams lost sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>games in December. Remove that Ravens team and they were

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<v Speaker 1>an anomaly. You still had twelve losses for ten Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl champions. So what am I saying here, Travis? If

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins go too and two the rest of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to say they have no shot to

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<v Speaker 1>win the whole thing. I think that's pretty much just

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<v Speaker 1>not true at all. That would be eleven and six

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing for sure, but everything is still in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you at that point. So can we just all agree

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<v Speaker 1>on this show to a enjoy the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>season has been an absolute blast, Like we've had fun, right.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I think we as sports fans get so caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the end results when really the truth is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's about how much fun you have on the journey. Because,

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>like thirty one, teams are going to end the year disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can have good seasons and you can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have fun and get enjoyment when you don't win the

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. I promise that if you just think about

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the Jets, not what's ahead after that, your day and

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>your week will get better. Because, like I had to

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<v Speaker 1>talk myself out of this whole funk because I had

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so much fun at nine and three, the year was

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a blast. The Chief's loss was hard, Eagles lost whatever.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>The Bills loss was hard. But like at nine to three,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this, We're gonna win the super Bowl.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>More, more paychecks for everybody in the building.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Like it's gonna be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they lost, and I'm like, distraw, I can't

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>handle it, Like that's not that's stupid.

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Why would I do that?

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, you've had twelve games of pretty much sheer enjoyment.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let one like ruin the whole thing. Like you've

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>had fun this year. You're gonna watch these games this

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>summer and enjoy them back again. And then my other

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>request is be let's just see what happens man, Like, yeah,

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>we lost Connor, it sucks. But what if Dak Prescott

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>gets hurt against the Bills. What if Lamar Jackson gets

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>hurt in missus the Dolphins game in week seventeen? What

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>if Josh Allen missed? Like you never know what could happen.

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals were back on track and gonna make a run, right,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>five and four, looking good, gonna go beat the was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Who they play?

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 6>When?

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<v Speaker 3>When Broke got hurt, the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna go beat the Ravens, right, Joe Burrow's wrist

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and the Jags were right in line for the one

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>seed after that injury, right because they weren't gonna face

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>What do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>They lose to Jake Browning and Joe Flacco against the

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Browns and Bengals, respectively. As anybody taking the Jaguars serious

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, like their year is not over. They're still

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>talking win the AFC South.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill, that's the message. If we lose Sunday, all right,

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>freak out, fine by me, but not until then. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Week fifteen, picks man, Speaking of setbacks. We were cruising

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in Week fourteen, nailed the Chicago and Cleveland upsets, got

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo pick. Right, We're eight and one heading into

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>those afternoon games, and then the Buffalo game was the

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>only game we'd win the rest of the way loss loss,

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<v Speaker 1>dub in the late games, and then zero to three

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in primetime. That is a one and five finish to

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the week. It knocks us to one forty nine and

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty three. That's seventy point three percent winning percentage. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and cue the music right there and

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<v Speaker 1>get to these picks.

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<v Speaker 3>On Thursday Night football, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking the Raiders over the Chargers, but I don't want

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch that game at all. I'm not gonna watch it.

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna watch Easton Stick play against Aidan O'Connell

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>not doing it. I make a joke every year that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you guys are going to be craving these football

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>games come, you know, February, but I just can't do it.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Give me the Satarius late here. Give me the Bengals

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>over the Vikings. I think the Vikings offense is utterly

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>broken right now, and Jake Browning.

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals offense is scoring ten more points per game

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>with Jake Browning of what Miami scored last year without

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>two tone my.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Lower Yeah, that's interesting in your thing.

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Give me the Colts over the Steelers. I'm not picking

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers the rest of the way. I think I've

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>communicated that on the show here. Their offense is beyond broken.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Detroit over Denver. The Lions have to bounce back. It's

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>in the nice, cushy confines at Ford Field. I'll take

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>them to win that one. Give me the Saints over

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the Giants. I am getting beat by the Giants last

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, but I'm gonna ride the hot hand

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>here and trust that a decent sites defense can handle

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Tommy de Veats, even though the Saints offense is just

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>as bad.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Give me the rather the Bears over the Browns.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I just can't have faith in Joe Flacco and they

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>all have either starring tackle Grant Delpit got hurt.

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>The Bears are rolling.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I like justin field where he's at right now. Give

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>me the Bears. Give me the Falcons over the Panther.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not picking the Panthers the rest away. Give me

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Packers over the Bucks to bounce back in a

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>big way. The Dolphins to bounce back over the Jets.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Give me the Chiefs over the Patriots because Duff. I'll

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>take Houston over the Titans, but I'll swap that if CJ.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Stroud can't play and it's Davis neck Mills. Give me

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the Niners over the Cardinals. I'll take the Rams over

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the Commanders. I'm picking Buffalo over Dallas. Hopefully that's not

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>what happens, because I want to see Dallas get another

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>huge win and then come into our game like with

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<v Speaker 1>a you know a little bit of a wiggle room

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to lose. And also, obviously a Buffalo loss would be

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>massive for us because we can wrap the division up

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks if they lose that game and

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>we get take care of our business. But I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills. I just think they're gonna find a way

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>again at home. If it was in Dallas, i'd pick

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the other way around. But Dallas traveling in bad weather,

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. Man, give me Baltimore over Jacksonville again. Hope

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that one swaps. Hopefully I'm over two on these picks

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>because that would be huge for us if we got those.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And then Philly over Seattle on Monday night. So if

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins beat the Jets and then you get to

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 1>go home and watch, you know, the four twenty five game,

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and if Dallas beats Buffalo and then Jacksonville beats Baltimore,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>like you.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Are right back where you start.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>You could be right.

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Back where you were prior to Monday night if you

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>get those three results and they're not at all crazy.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Miami's nine point favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and pull up my app here and

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you about the other two games. I think Buffalo's

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>probably probably a pick them right, Like in that spot,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>they're one point five favorites, so Dallas is less than

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>two point dogs in the road, and then the Jags

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>are three point dogs at home, so like either of

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<v Speaker 1>those games could clearly go in the way of the

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