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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about January Jones and miss Ophonia, a

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Speaker 1: paramedic who decided to be a disgusting pig and throw

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Speaker 1: away his entire career to make some extra money. In

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Speaker 1: keeping up with the holiday season, We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about a Santa Claus who was arrested for child porn

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Speaker 1: and the dangers of shoveling snow. And then we'll finish

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Speaker 1: off the episode with a family who thought their dead

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Speaker 1: had abandoned them, only to find his dead body years

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Speaker 1: later in their basement. All that and more on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: Let's get started with January Jones.

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Speaker 2: All right, January Jones aka Betty Draper from Me has

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Speaker 2: revealed she's been dealing with a lifelong condition called misophonia.

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Speaker 2: And I think you have this, toube I do.

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Speaker 1: I was reading this and I was like, I have

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Speaker 1: this one hundred percent. As I was writing off our

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Speaker 1: notes for today's episode. Actually they were outside doing my

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Speaker 1: like cleanup for the fall, you know, the winter clean up,

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Speaker 1: getting you know, the leaves and everything and the blower

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Speaker 1: is like triggering to me. It gives me so much

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Speaker 1: anxiety I can't It's probably my number one trigger this.

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Speaker 1: So what else does that freaking asmr bullshit that the

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Speaker 1: kids watch on YouTube When people like speak softly and

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Speaker 1: it's like very crisp, it makes me feel it gives me.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because it makes me like angry. And then

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this and I'm like, oh, okay, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: So this condition causes someone to feel like extreme discomfort, anxiety,

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Speaker 2: or discussed after hearing certain noises. And when I've read that,

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Speaker 2: I immediately thought when we were driving to see Hamilton and

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Speaker 2: Mom won't put a video on her phone, freaked out

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Speaker 2: on her.

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Speaker 1: That's another one that's triggering to me is when people

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Speaker 1: are listening to their phones or in public. If you're

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Speaker 1: on your phone in public, I don't care. If someone

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Speaker 1: has a phone up to their ear and they're talking

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Speaker 1: to me that the speakerphone, the loud talking, just like

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Speaker 1: all of it. It just pisses me off so bad.

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Speaker 1: It just it puts me like it puts me from

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Speaker 1: zero to like one hundred in a second, and my mother, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're in the car, and like she's listening. She has

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Speaker 1: like TikTok on and is scrolling through those videos like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I get mad because I think

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Speaker 1: it's just so rude. It's just like when we were

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Speaker 1: was it was I with oh, I was with Andrea

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Speaker 1: at the diner at the Silver Diner, right and some

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Speaker 1: person that was sitting behind me was on the phone

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Speaker 1: on the speakerphone like an old person, and it's like

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Speaker 1: anything else. I'm just so mad. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's like the actual noise or is it just like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're so rude. You know.

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Speaker 2: My problem is I wonder if it falls under the

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Speaker 2: category of this, Like I get triggered like that noise wise,

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Speaker 2: when I hear two noises at once and I can't focus,

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Speaker 2: Like when I'm on the phone with Mom and pop

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Speaker 2: up and the dog's barking in the back.

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Speaker 1: My god, that fucking dog, or I can't stand that dog.

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Speaker 2: When I'm watching TV and my husband decides to watch

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Speaker 2: reels on full blast and I'm like, hello, I'm watching

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Speaker 2: I feel like my brain like short circuits and I

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Speaker 2: can't figure out which one to focus on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or like go into a bar or going out

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Speaker 1: to dinner in general when it's too loud, I can't

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah totally. But yeah, you one hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: this problem because I think there's a level of annoyance,

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Speaker 1: You up, and we'll win your time and day. She

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Speaker 1: my mom got so salty when I yelled at her,

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, and I'm like, I'm the

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Speaker 1: one that's wrong. You're We're in a car having conversation

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to listen to that. You want to listening

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Speaker 1: to TikTok videos Like.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a text after this that says Humper

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Speaker 2: like I do pretty much every other day when she listens.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, January Jones says she's been dealing with this

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Speaker 1: You really crazy.

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Speaker 2: And she has a brother in law who she says

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I could totally knowing you.

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Speaker 1: I can now see this is the real thing. It

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Speaker 1: happens because the kids probably will agree that, Like if

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Speaker 1: we're if we're sitting there and Lilian will turn on

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Speaker 1: like one of those videos, I want to pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and throw it across the room. That's not

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Speaker 1: the iPad.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm serious, Like I had a normal response.

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Speaker 1: It makes me like it just pisses me off so bad.

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Speaker 1: I can't explain it, like and she and she'll be like, okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've told you a thousand times. Is

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Speaker 1: there one for smells too, because I get triggered by

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Speaker 1: smells too, Like my kid comes downstairs and puts twenty

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Speaker 1: sprays of this soul day Gennaro crap on her, and

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Speaker 2: No, they really over perfume themselves and it's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm just like listen, guys, I'll do anything

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Speaker 1: for you whatever, Just like I have a few rules.

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Speaker 1: One of them is like, I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: twenty sprays, like all of it. It just and then

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Speaker 1: the whole entire car ride and stuff like. I just

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So a Baltimore paramedic is under investigation

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Speaker 2: after he allegedly posted videos masturbating on supplies and his

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Speaker 2: coworker's food.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this shit is so messed up. So I want

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Speaker 1: to look on my computer really quick because I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you did you see the one I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw this one article, this one that

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Speaker 1: I came across, right, huh. But it's it's from a

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Speaker 1: fire fire law blog. Okay. I can't even believe there's

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Speaker 1: the entire law a website for firelaw. But there's actual

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Speaker 1: screenshots from his OnlyFans page. This is what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was an only fans page. Okay, that's what I

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Speaker 1: was wondering where he was posting there and his his

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Speaker 1: enough of his arm that I could see that he

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Speaker 1: has visible tattoos. Fucking idiot. Yeah, why would you another

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Speaker 1: one identify her? It's it's literally an identifier. I could

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Speaker 1: you would see in a firehouse, Like you're just a moron.

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Speaker 1: And then and I don't know who found out about this,

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Speaker 1: but somebody obviously found out about it and reported it.

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Speaker 2: That was my next question.

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Speaker 1: All of the all of the pictures are labeled underneath,

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Speaker 1: and one says coworker toothpaste vandalism. The other one says

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Speaker 1: pissing in family marinade, pissing in my coworker soda, pissing

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Speaker 1: in my room on my roommate's toothbrush, cleaning my ass

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Speaker 1: with my roommate's toothbrush, sucking and robbing coworker's chapstick on

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Speaker 1: sticking it in his pee hoole, pissing in coworkers dressing

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Speaker 1: something with the gym, champ who urinating in my wife's mouth.

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Speaker 1: These are and these are all videos which I can't

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Speaker 1: click on because they're just screenshots, unfortunately, because I kind

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Speaker 2: But well, I will say he posted the videos and

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Speaker 1: But as we know, the internet is so nice. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Internet's forever.

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Speaker 2: So of course some online sleuth working for one of

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Speaker 2: these news outlets was able to find them very easily.

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Speaker 2: And to the question I had earlier was who did

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Speaker 2: discover this? Was it a subscriber of his only fans

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Speaker 1: Or would somebody?

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Speaker 2: Did somebody at work just happen to stumble upon this?

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Speaker 2: Because how did they possibly put two and two together?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I read I've read on here. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't figure out. But they didn't name the person,

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Speaker 1: which annoys me. I mean, I know that you could

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Speaker 1: quickly figure out who it is because of his tattoo.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I protect their identity. Yeah, And and I think

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if they would know anything about this.

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Speaker 1: Oh here it is, it says reported allegation surface after

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Speaker 1: an anonymous complaint was submitted to the county. The materials

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Speaker 1: provided the department included videos posted by the paramedic to

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Speaker 1: an OnlyFans account. Yeah, so it was it was anonymous

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Speaker 1: to the county, so that could have really been anyone.

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Speaker 1: But this is embarrassing for the fire department as well

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Speaker 1: as just like this person and listen, like he was

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Speaker 1: don't know like what the typical content on only Fans is,

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Speaker 2: Well there's a kink for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying, Like this isn't like a

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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that that's like he he was probably

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Speaker 1: if the videos don't. They don't say like how many

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Speaker 1: if he was getting any play on there. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: like this is just complete. You know, you want to

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Speaker 1: think the best of people, Well, you.

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Speaker 2: Want to trust somebody that's there to try to save

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Speaker 2: your life.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine like thinking that someone was like sticking

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Speaker 1: your chapstick in their penis hole, like no, really like

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Speaker 1: and like sticking your toothbrush on their asshole. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. It's just like like this is something,

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Speaker 1: this is not a one off unfortunately, and now this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I'm thinking about like at the bar

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Speaker 2: for example, Like we used to leave our purses in

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Speaker 2: the basement near the office, right, but like I wasn't

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Speaker 2: So to think that somebody else could just go in

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Speaker 2: And then when you add it on to this type

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Speaker 2: These people have some sort of like mini apartment going

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Speaker 2: on there. They live there part of the time. So

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Speaker 2: to think that he's going into their private space and

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Speaker 2: it's just absolutely disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Well, i mean it's happened, people have still, you know,

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Speaker 1: people steal stuff, and I mean it's unfortunate, but this

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Speaker 1: you know, and and then they're saying that they're going

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Speaker 1: to sanitize all the firehouses and this and that, and

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Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, but it's it's a sexual violation honestly,

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Speaker 1: Like even though you're not physically being assaulted masturbating on

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Speaker 2: So clearly it's not even just engaging with the activity online,

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Speaker 1: Of course, this was very far.

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Speaker 2: From us in Hamilton, New Jersey, right, so that's even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just and he was a teacher,

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Speaker 2: You know, That's exactly what I'm saying, because if you

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Speaker 2: like what do they say, people drive drunk eighty times

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so like exactly what was he doing before? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The difference they did that my kids. I've been having

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Speaker 1: Every single year when it snows, well almost every year,

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Speaker 2: Oh totally. I'm always like I do the tex says

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Speaker 1: of course it always knows bad when it's his day.

433
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: So I'll go out there because I don't want it

434
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: to ice, you know, ice up and do it. And

435
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: and I'm whatever, I'm I guess I'm apparently I'm starting

436
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: to get to the age where there's concern. But my

437
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: when Gabe is at home, he he's like such a

438
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: good guy, Like he'll go to all of the older

439
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: neighbors houses and do their driveways and everything like that.

440
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: But Bill, who lives across the street, he's like a

441
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: stubborn old person and he insists on doing it himself.

442
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, you're eighty years old. He doesn't

443
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: work out on a regular basis, and this is I'm like,

444
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: you are prime target for a sudden cardiac death. Please Bill. Yeah,

445
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't see. He's wow. And I'm just like, dude,

446
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, don't don't like, don't you go die,

447
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: know me, No, like, don't die right now. This is

448
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: this happens and he's like I'm fine, and I'm like

449
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: everyone thinks they're fine. This is like a weird It's

450
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: it's just a very unique way of exercising because you're

451
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: using all the muscles in your upper body and your

452
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: lower body's not moving, so your blood's like not circulating

453
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: correctly and it might take a like a longer time

454
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: for the blood to get back to your heart. And

455
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: you're older, your vessels aren't as good. You don't work

456
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: out like that and all of a sudden like boom,

457
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: heart attack. It's like a thing. It's a thing.

458
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: Thank god you're about to have a grandson because we'll

459
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: stick him up.

460
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think any kids. It's so bizarre because

461
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: so the girl, the girls on our block will go

462
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: around and they were the past couple of years have

463
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: been like can we shovel? Because I'm like, you guys

464
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: can make so much money right now if you go

465
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: to all these people's houses and just say I'll do

466
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: your driveway.

467
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: Have kids in my neighborhood that come around, but it

468
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: snows and they also do leaves and everything.

469
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: It's not the same as it used to be. Though, No,

470
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: it's unhard, and my grandson's not going to be of

471
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: age for like ten years, and by then it'll be

472
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: like he's not even gonna want to do it anyway.

473
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: Well, in this article, they're saying, some experts are saying

474
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: you shouldn't shovel snow over sixty five. So if that's

475
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: the case, I think you'll be in a good place

476
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: because game's only fifty. But other experts you are saying,

477
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: you'll do it till.

478
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: I know a Gabe will do it until the very

479
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: end because he just that's just how he is. But

480
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: they were so they did. I guess they were saying.

481
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: The American Journal of American Medicine said between the years

482
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety and two thousand and six, two hundred

483
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: thousand adults were treated for injuries from snow shoveling snow,

484
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: and there were more than sixteen hundred deaths sixty five

485
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: and older. Now, that's the thing when you see when

486
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: you see all those injuries, it's like people get injured

487
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: all the time, but you think about to the point

488
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: where you have to go to the emergency room. So

489
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: they're getting injured pretty bad. But a lot of it

490
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: is cardiac stuff, and so there's a direct correlation because

491
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: they're saying that it's more you're exerting more energy than

492
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: like if you were doing a cardiac stress test. So

493
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: just think about what you do on a treadmill. Right

494
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: if you just had a person like even me, because

495
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I don't work out like that, Right if you just

496
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: told me to go run on the treadmill for fifteen minutes,

497
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna drop dead, you know what I mean? Oh,

498
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: like I understand, so so like and now now put

499
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: you at eighty years old, like you're it's it's just

500
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: not a good idea, it's it's it's a lot. You're

501
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: the heavy snow, like you know, sometimes it's like that

502
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: very heavy snow that's not that fluffy kind. So I

503
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: try to yell at the neighbors, like I'll even pay

504
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: to get it done if there's if there's no one

505
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: to do it, or if I can't do it, but

506
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want. I feel like we always say

507
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: we need like a shed on our block for things

508
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: like a snowblower that could be stored in the like

509
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: the neighborhood shed that.

510
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Could be used. My neighbor has a mini snowplow that

511
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: like it's like a full vehicle. He gets in, but

512
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: he only does his sidewalk. He doesn't. Yeah, that's not cool.

513
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: So are a couple of our neighbors have things like

514
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: that over the years that have been helping out with that,

515
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: because like, come on, if you have a snowblower, it's

516
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: pretty easy to use, Like, it's not lower, Like he

517
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: has a full snowplow that he doesn't do yours. No,

518
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: that's so douchey.

519
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: He is older, so like I don't like he's older,

520
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: so like I get it, but it's no, it's not

521
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: even a snowblower.

522
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: It's a full blown vehicle.

523
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: He sits in and.

524
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: Likes, I don't get it. I don't get it. That's like,

525
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: just because you're old doesn't mean that you that you give.

526
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Like listen speaking about Bill, my old neighbor that lives

527
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: across the street. He takes in my trash cans almost

528
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: every single week. He raises me out there to get them,

529
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: Like I bear the ratio of like how often I

530
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: do it for them versus or a gabe whoever's home

531
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: in the morning, Like he does it and he's eighty. Like,

532
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: that's just like a manners thing. If you could do

533
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: it and you have time, you should do stuff for

534
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: your neighbor like that. I don't know, they just love

535
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: that neighbor. But anyway, Yeah, so then and then it's

536
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: like you use the snowblower, and then you got the

537
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: problem with people cutting their fingertips off. Just a lot

538
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: of drama this time of year.

539
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: Just what are you supposed to do about the snow?

540
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Don't take it out of the snow blower when it's

541
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: clogged without making sure that it's turned off first. It's

542
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: just like a law mower, all right.

543
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Back in the sixties, this thirty year old father suddenly

544
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: disappeared and his wife used the good old he went

545
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: out for cigarettes and never came back excuse with the kids.

546
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: So decades later, this guy's grandchildren are digging in the

547
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: basement of their family home and end up finding his

548
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: skeletal remains.

549
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the reason that they were digging in the

550
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: basement is because some psychic medium person told them to

551
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: do it.

552
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Was it Sylvia Brown?

553
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would have been like, that's not how we died.

554
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: He bled.

555
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: Maybe she came up with the cigarettes excuse, and that's

556
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: why the mom was going with.

557
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: So this is terrible for these people. No, it's terrible.

558
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: Like imagine thinking that your dad left you your whole life,

559
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: only to find out that he's been dead in your basement,

560
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: your whole life, and so the mom's dead too. They

561
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: have no answers, and the kids are like, this is

562
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: where the story gets weird to me. The kids think

563
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: that the mom has nothing to do with it.

564
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the weird backstory behind it. So

565
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: they had a living handyman during this time.

566
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Who, oh my god, this sounds like Vincenzo. Do you

567
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: ever hear the stories about Vincenzo and our family? No,

568
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: like some Italian fishermen that used to come and stay

569
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: at one of our aunt's houses. And everybody was like, oh,

570
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: she's pretty much banging him. And they were like, knowing

571
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: about Vincenzo, Oh, ask mom, mom, it's a good story.

572
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: All right.

573
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: I have to call her later so i'll see.

574
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: What she Yes, it's a great story. Okay.

575
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: So they had this living handyman during this time who

576
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: was helping the dad with a construction project. So then

577
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: shortly after the husband disappears or she says, abandons them.

578
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: She marries the handyman, but they do end up getting divorced,

579
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: which was a relief to the kids because they said

580
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: that God was a total piece of shit. He was

581
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: physically abusing them, sexually assaulted the girls, seemed terrible all around.

582
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: So the mom ends up dying in nineteen ninety eight,

583
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: never said what happened.

584
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: She never filed a missing.

585
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: Persons reporter or anything, which I just think is also suspicious.

586
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: And then there was a theory going around that he

587
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: reunited with a woman he met while he was serving

588
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: in the Korean War and raised a family with this

589
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: mysterious woman that was totally made up. So then the

590
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: mom dies in nineteen ninety eight. By twenty ten, one

591
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: of the family members finally is like, I think we

592
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: should go see a psychic just to get any insight.

593
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: This psychic literally says, no, he didn't leave you for cigarettes.

594
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: He's buried in your basement. So they still have this

595
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: house and their family, and then they end up looking

596
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: in this very specific area the psychic said, and they

597
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: did find his skeletal remains.

598
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: They found bones, and they called I guess they called

599
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: the police, and they said, yeah, that's a pelvis. That's

600
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: a human pelvis.

601
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: It's so outrageous.

602
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: So dude, how do people live exactly what a handyman

603
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: living like? And then you're just like, ah, he just

604
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: went for cigarettes. I'm not going to report a missing.

605
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: But the kids are saying they don't think the mom

606
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: was involved. So it's like, are they trying to say

607
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: the handyman killed the dad buried him without the mom knowing,

608
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: And then was just like, oh, yeah, he left and

609
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: never came back, but and she never filed him. Like

610
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: I would just never accept that answer.

611
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: And also like they dug a hole in the basement.

612
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: It's not even really, it's so superficial. He would have

613
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: smelled so strong in that house for a while as

614
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: he was decomposing, until he dig decomposed completely. Yeah, I'm

615
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: just like, now it's it looked like this, it's skeletonized, right.

616
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: It was fifty what was it fifty five years ago

617
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: or something?

618
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: I think sixty three is when he went, yeah, for cigarettes,

619
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: and so his.

620
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: So it smelled down there for quite a while until

621
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: this process went through. So that's number one that you're like, Okay,

622
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: so nobody noticed that it smelled in the basement really

623
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: really bad for a while, right, and then she didn't

624
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: report him missing. Come on, and I think the kids

625
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: are so traumatized. I mean really like I've heard stories

626
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: of fathers like just not just like leaving and going

627
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: to get cigarettes and that coming back that I can't

628
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: imagine how traumatizing that is to a child.

629
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, especially because your whole life. I mean, these people

630
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: are older, they're like in their what.

631
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Sixties now, But that's that's like a that has to

632
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: be like a sore spot. That's because no, say you

633
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: think your.

634
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Whole life, you have this deadbeat dad who didn't want

635
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: anything to do with you, but it was actually just

636
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: murdered and buried in your house. And it's also the

637
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: disturbing fact that you're living with a murdered person buried

638
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: in your basement your entire life. Like I just think

639
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: about this from about kids and stuff. Just like if

640
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: you're if your parent doesn't want you like that, that

641
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 2: they're enough to be like yeah, I don't care if

642
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: I ever see them again. How do you grow up

643
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: to like have a normal adult relationship.

644
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could say that no, I know, I'm

645
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: just saying though, like trust no, because that's like I

646
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: just think that that's like a little bit different of

647
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: a different story, because sometimes people have to give up

648
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: someone for adoption because they physically like can't take care

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Speaker 1: a parent that just gets up and is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to see you again. I don't know, like how you

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Speaker 1: don't have issues with that, like adopted kids are. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's just different because like sometimes they're adopted

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Speaker 1: when they're like little babies and they just don't even

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Speaker 1: know the difference that they're their parent is always like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could say either way, because the

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Speaker 2: stereotypical adoption case we think of as like a baby

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Speaker 2: are older kids that happens too too, and of course

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Speaker 2: deaths happen and everything. But yeah, I see what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: Like you're living with this person because some of the

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Speaker 2: kids were I think up to ten years old, So

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Speaker 2: you're living with this person who's acting like you're dead

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Speaker 2: think they just walked out on you and that that's traumatizing.

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Speaker 2: And then you get to be in your sixties or

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Speaker 2: seventies thinking your entire life that your dad's just this

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Speaker 2: total deadbeat that walked out on you, only to find

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Speaker 2: out that he was murdered, probably by your mother because or.

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Speaker 1: Had and then your mom's dead and you can't even

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Speaker 1: find out what happened, and it's like your mom was

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Speaker 1: the only stable person in your life, your whole life.

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Speaker 1: She could have been like a totally awesome mom, but

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Speaker 1: involved in some way. There's no way that you have

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Speaker 1: married to another person right away. It just seems it's

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Speaker 1: a Vincenzo situation too. You don't have a guy living

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Speaker 1: in your house that you're not like banging, right, Like

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Speaker 1: it's just weird or somebody's banging. Maybe it was like

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Speaker 2: I just can't accept the set face value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a this is like a denial situation.

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Speaker 1: Like I like that they think that their mom's like

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Speaker 2: Lie that your dad's murdered and he's buried in the basement.

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