1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind Listener mail. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: This is Robert Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: it's Monday, the day of each week that we read 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: back messages from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind email address. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: If you are a fan of Stuff to Blow your Mind, 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Weird House Cinema, all the episodes we do on this feed, 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: and you have never gotten in touch before, why not 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: write in? You can reach us at contact at stuff 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: to Blow your Mind dot com. We appreciate all different 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: kinds of messages, but especially if you have something interesting 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: to add to a topic we've recently talked about. Uh, 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: let's see Rob. If you don't mind, I'm going to 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: kick things off with a response to our series on Dust. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: Let's have it. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Okay. This comes to us from Stephanie. Stephanie says, Hello, Robert, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: Joe and JJ. Longtime listener, first time writing. It's springtime 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: in the Northern Hemisphere and that is why I could 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: not believe that zero mention was made of pollen during 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: the Dust series. Did I just miss it? I listened 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: to Stuff to Blow Your Mind at bedtime, maybe I 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: snoozed right through it. In my native German language, pollen 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: is called blutenstalb, which literally translates as flower dust. I 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: looked this up and the translation I got was blossom dust, 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: which I think means the same thing, but sounds to 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: me even more elegant in English. So thank you for 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: sharing that, Stephanie. We did briefly mention pollen as a 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: major constituent of dust, I think, in part one of 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: the series, but we certainly did not go into great 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: detail on it anyway. After this, Stephanie goes on to 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: say some very nice things about the show. I'm not 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: going to read all of them because it would be 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: somewhat embarrassing, but I will say among these nice things, 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: she mentions that she enjoys Weird House Cinema episode even 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: though she has seen almost none of the movies we cover, 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: and I assume from the message also means that she 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: does not plan to see them, and she likes that 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: Weird House Cinema episodes tend to be long. We will 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: certainly take that. We you know, like, for whatever reason 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: you want to listen to them. That's great. 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: Though. 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: I got curious about this because we actually hear this 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: a lot from listeners, don't we rob from people who 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 3: say they're not really interested in watching the movies themselves, 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: but they still enjoy listening to the Weird House episodes. 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do hear this from time to time. I've 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: not conducted account but enough that it is a trend. 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: It's at least a subset of Weird House listeners. 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm curious to learn more from fans like this, like specifically, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: what is appealing to you about Weird House cinema if 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: you're not really very interested in weird movies or in 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: movies at all. 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe part of it is, like we watch 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: them so they don't have to. I don't know. Yeah, 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: maybe it's our witty banter. Maybe it's our bits of 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: film trivia. I don't know. 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to say, but yeah, let us know if 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: you want to share your thoughts. Also, Stephanie mentions that 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: she likes how core episodes of the show combined things 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: like poetry and other sort of cultural things with the 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: scientific topics we talk about. And I appreciate hearing this 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: from Stephanie because I think this is in fact a 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: primary value that our show provides. There are a lot 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: of great science shows out there, hosted by many of 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: them hosted by scientists, by people with direct subject matter expertise, 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: which frankly, we don't have. We are not scientists, and 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: it took me a while to realize that. I think 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: one of the main distinctions of our show is that 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: we are not scientists. We're sort of humanities people and 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: arts people who love science and are very interested in it. 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: So we work hard and try our best to understand 72 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: the subject matter and get the technical details right. But 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: we approach the scientific content with a lot of you know, 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: with arts and humanity brains, and a lot of the 75 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: connections we make are specifically across that divide to the 76 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: arts and to literature and so forth. 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of times, I mean, we're sharing 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: our research journey with you, our creative journey with you. 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: We become interested in these topics, and the shows kind 80 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: of about us sharing our interests. But also, yeah, we're 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: journalists to a flaw. We may go off on a 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: related tangent in a given episode, and you know, I 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: think hopefully that's part of the appeal of the show 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 2: as well. 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: Anyway, at the end, Stephanie says, be well, and she 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: adds a ps saying, your editorial meetings would be fun 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: to listen in on. How do you decide what to 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: take up as a topic on the show? What is 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: your guiding principle, Stephanie, I think this might not be 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: the most riveting answer, but I think this is the truth. 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: Most of the time. It's literally as simple as one 92 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: of us gets interested in a subject or a question, 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: and we make a judgment that it would be good 94 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: subject matter for the show. So it's like two criteria, 95 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: like number one, is this interesting to us? And number 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: two do we think it would potentially be interesting to listeners? 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: And that's about. 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: It, Yeah, pretty much. I mean we just kind of 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: go back and forth, you know, and who's sort of 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: taking the lead on a selection. And also I think 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: there's a you know a great deal of trust where 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: if one of us says, all right, next episode, we're 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: doing it on I don't know, frog feed, you know, 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: to the other one, we might we might initially wonder 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: is there really an episode in frog Feed? There might 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: not be, this doesn't sound all that interesting, but we 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: tend to trust that the other person is interested because 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: they have found some ankle or they have figured out 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: how it's interesting, and I mean it always that always 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: ends up being the case. Yeah, And in general we 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: always find that, you know, you follow any topic, you 112 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: dive into any topic, you'll find the interesting things about it. 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what criteria actually end up with 114 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: us most often ruling outer a topic. I would say 115 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: the most common reason we decide not to do a 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: topic is that we can't actually find very reliable sources 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: on it. 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that can be it, I mean, and we should 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: have the caveat that. There are different factors involved in 120 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: weird house cinema versus core, but just talking about core 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: science here. 122 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: I was thinking about core. 123 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess across the board core and weird House, 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: if we realize that a topic starts maybe becoming a 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: little bit too much of a bummer, that might deter 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: us from pushing on. But not always. I mean sometimes 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: it's I mean, they're necessary bummers in life. You can't 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: avoid all of them. But I know there have been 129 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: times where I'm like, get interested in a topic, but 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: then I get down to it, I was like, do 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: I really want to talk about this? And so that 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: can definitely be a factor. Also, I guess We tend 133 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 2: to avoid super noozy things in part because those aren't 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: very evergreen. They're often still developing, and if you sort 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: of get in line to cover it, then you kind 136 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: of you're agreeing that you're going to keep covering it. 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: And sometimes that's fun. Sometimes that's the case for us, 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: but generally we don't do those sorts of episodes. 139 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the newsiest to most recent topics we cover. 140 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: That are the ones that I find we need to 141 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: end up coming back and like doing corrections or updates 142 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: on because like something we said in the episode isn't 143 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: really lasting. I like it better when we can give 144 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: give a topic some time to sort of get some 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: second and third order commentary and analysis that we can 146 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: digest altogether before we try to cover it. 147 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, so there you have it. Partial answer, right, Yeah, 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: all right, Well, thanks for writing in great points, great questions. 149 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: Totally thank you, Stephanie. 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: All Right, This next one comes to us from Jenny. 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Jenny writes it and says it's Hi, guys. I want 152 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: to say I love the show. I've been listening for 153 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: many years. I especially look forward to Weird House Cinema 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: every Friday. Your recent series on dust was really interesting, 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: but the last episode on dust storms reminded me of 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: one of the weirdest days of my life. My husband 157 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: and I were living in Manly, Australia in two thousand 158 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: and eight. One morning we awoke on what appeared to 159 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: be Mars. The sky was red and everywhere there was 160 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 2: sunlight it was red and at first I thought maybe 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: it was wildfires that were too close to the house, 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: but there was no smell or sight of smoke. What 163 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: actually happened was a giant storm of red dust from 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Western Australia was covering Sydney and surrounding areas. The dust 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: was high in the atmosphere and blocking the sunlight, but 166 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: was not low enough to cause is shoes on the ground. 167 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: The dust could be seen as far away as the 168 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: coast of New Zealand. It took about two days for 169 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: it to move west over the ocean. If you google 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: pictures of it, it's mine bending. In the Wikipedia article, 171 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: the director of Blade Runner said he was inspired by 172 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: it when making the sequel. I hope you check it out. 173 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 2: My other comment today is on weird House Cinema. My 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: background is in clothing and textiles. When you go over 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: all the cast and crew. It would be nice if 176 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: you would include the costume designers. Sometimes you mention the 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: way that the costumes play a large part in the 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: field of the movies, and it would be great to 179 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: know who's behind it all the best, Jenny. 180 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jenny Well, first of all, yeah, about you 181 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: mentioning the two thousand and nine dust storms in Australia. 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: These really are crazy to look up. So if you've 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: never seen images of it before, yeah, definitely give them 184 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: a peek. And I can see exactly the comparison to 185 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: specifically a certain scene or sequence in Danevilleneuve's Blade Runner sequel. 186 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: There's like, oh, is it when he's going to try 187 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: to find Decord somewhere that there's like this red environment 188 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: with just like the sky is opaque and orange, and uh, 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: I think. 190 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I've only seen that one once and it 191 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: was it was visually stunning. 192 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: Also, Jenny, Yes, I agree that the costume designers play 193 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: a huge part in the look and feel of a 194 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: lot of great and weird movies. And we don't have 195 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: time in our Weird House episodes to mention everybody who 196 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: contributed to a film. There are a lot of people 197 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: who make great contributions. But I agree that in tons 198 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: of cases, especially of genre cinema, you know, fantasy and 199 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: sci fi and horror, the kinds of things we cover 200 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: more often, costume design place an especially important and underappreciated role. 201 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: I know sometimes we do single it out, we have 202 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: done it before, but yeah, it's not like part of 203 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: the regular template. However, I will say that one of 204 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: the two possible movies that we're going to cover next week, 205 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: if all goes to plan, will definitely include a call 206 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: out to the costume people on that one. Whichever one it. 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: Is, all right, But yeah, in any case where we 208 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: failed to mention a really notable costume designer in the past, 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: sorry for the oversight. It's going to happen a lot 210 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: because you know, films are huge projects with a lot 211 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: of people making very important contributions, and they're all coming together, 212 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: and so we do miss mentioning a lot of names 213 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: and stuff. But generally, hats off to costume departments worldwide. 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: They do great work. 215 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, what else do we have? 216 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: Let's see? This next message is in response to our 217 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: series about meteoric iron being used to make objects make artifacts. 218 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: This is from Angelo and Angelo says, Hi, Robin Joe, 219 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: I just listened to your first two episodes on meteoric iron. 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: The idea of iron from meteorites being used to make 221 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: weapons reminds me of the old Conan The Adventurer animated 222 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: series from the nineteen nineties. In that series, the main 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: bad guy is an interdimensional wizard along with his hinchmen 224 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: from a race of shape shifting serpent men disguising themselves 225 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: as regular people. Their goal is to allow their master, 226 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: a giant snake being, to enter our dimension. The only 227 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: thing that can stop them is Conan and his sword, 228 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: which is made of star metal, forged by his father 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: from a piece of metal that fell from the sky. 230 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: When star medal is put in close proximity, it reveals 231 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: the true appearance of the serpent Men. Of course, when 232 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: Conan strikes them or holds the star metal sword long 233 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: enough in front of them, the serpent Men are sent 234 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: back into the other dimension from film. Throughout the series, 235 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: Conan makes friends and gets helped by other warriors who 236 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: use a variety of star metal weapons like bolas and 237 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: ninja stars. Interestingly, some of the episodes were actually pretty 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: close to the Robert E. Howard Stories. I wasn't sure 239 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: if you were if you were aware of that show, 240 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: but I thought it might be interesting to you. Here's 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: a link to the show's intro. Keep up the great work, 242 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: and I look forward to part three of the series. 243 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: Thanks Angelo, Well Angelo. I did look up the main 244 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: theme to the Conan the Adventurer cartoon, which is very talky, Rob. 245 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: Did you listen to the theme music? 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I checked out part of the clip you sent. 247 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: This show was completely off my radar. I this was 248 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: not syndicated in my childhood. 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: I genuinely can't remember if I had consciousness of this 250 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: or not. It's kind of similar to like he Man 251 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: and stuff, So I don't know if if I remember 252 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: this specifically. But the opening theme has like a lot 253 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: of narration. It's got like a guy talking who explains 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: the premise of the story. And I gotta say, maybe 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: we can feature a little clip of this opening theme 256 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: music as well. It sounds like a parody of a 257 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: nineties cartoon Theme's question. 258 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: This sounds pretty good. I did look into it a 259 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: little bit. I noticed that the main baddie here is 260 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: like a snake wizard and in the show he's called 261 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: wrath Ammon, and I was like, oh, that sounds familiar. 262 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: So there is a thoth Amon in the original Roberty 263 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: Howard Conan stories. And then there's, of course, is Thulsa 264 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: Doom that we also see depicted in Conan the Barbarian. 265 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: This character would seem to be a combination of both 266 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: those characters. I think in the original stories Thulsa Doom 267 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with snakes either, but thoth 268 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: Amon does. And therefore, even the Thulsa Doom that we 269 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: have in Coden the Barbarian is also kind of a 270 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: mix and match of different elements. 271 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: That would make sense. 272 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: But I'm not an expert on Roberty Howard. I've only 273 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: read a handful of Roberty Howard stories. 274 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: So I noticed something funny about the snake wizard guy 275 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: in this cartoon, which is okay, so you know, these 276 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: are all snake They're like reptile people who were disguised 277 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: as regular humans, and Conan's sword reveals their disguise and 278 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: reveals the fact that they're actually reptiles underneath their human skin. 279 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: But the leader of them is like riding around in 280 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: reptile themed attire. He's got like a reptile hood on 281 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: and a reptile sort of snake armor set, so it's 282 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: like he's giving it away. I don't know why he's 283 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: bothering to pretending to be a mammal. 284 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they wore snake armor and then you know, 285 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: magical curse they become snake men. But they can't just 286 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: get rid of the snake armor, so they're stuck with it. 287 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 288 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: I already had this fitted. This is tailor can't get 289 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: mammal armor. Now. 290 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: It's like gives the football team the Atlanta Falcons if 291 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: they were turned into like human falcon hybrids by a 292 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: vengeful witch, Like, are they going to abandon the mascot 293 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: and get new uniforms? Like no, No, They're just going 294 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: to magically disguise themselves as humans and keep wearing Falcons gear. 295 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: That's gotta be right, all right, Well, thanks for writing 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: in about this. I'm always delighted to learn about. In 297 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: this case, you animated series that I had never heard of. 298 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: But this is fascinating. All right, this is a fun one. 299 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: This one comes to us from Jeff. Jeff writes and 300 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: it says, greeting science humans. I think we've heard from 301 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: Jeff before I seem to remember that that opening, Jeff says, 302 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: I actually saw Highlander two on a date. Oh it 303 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: did not go well. I was making grumbling noises throughout 304 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: as they showed the earthly named MacLeod and Ramires on 305 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: another planet. Ramires space alien, familiar with spaceship and teleportation technology, 306 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: but confused by trucks, etc. And was in physical pain 307 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: by the end of the movie. I had been talking 308 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: it up beforehand, the same actors and director awesome part one, 309 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: this is going to be great. When it was over, 310 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: I was outraged and demoralized. But my date didn't see 311 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: the problem. She thought it was no worse than any 312 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: other testosterone sci fi action movie and couldn't figure what 313 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: all my sulking was about. That she couldn't see how 314 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: bad it was drove me crazy. The fact that I 315 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: considered highland Er two to be an appropriate date movie 316 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: in the first place speaks volumes about who was truly 317 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: at fault here, but that's another matter entirely. In the 318 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: early days of the IMDb, back when the wounds were 319 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: still fresh, Highlander two and Plan nine from Outer Space 320 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: would swap places for worst reviewed movie in the entire database. 321 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: I used to say that it was the most powerful 322 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: movie I had ever seen. It had the power to 323 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: warp time and alter history, souring the first film through 324 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: simple association. I generally appreciate a revisionist take on famously 325 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: bad movies, but this one hits too close to home. 326 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: I still enjoyed your episode, though, to this day. When 327 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: I see candles lit for loved ones in a Catholic church, 328 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: particularly in the case if the candles have been replaced 329 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: with flickering light bulbs and I can smack the top 330 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: of them, I'll channel my inner Clancy Brown and quietly 331 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: laugh as I pretend to snuff them out with my 332 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: open palm when no one else is around. 333 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah, come on, now, don't be disrespectful in 334 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: a church, even if you're celebrating your fandom of Highlander. 335 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, it's holy ground, holy grind. It continues 336 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: at any rate, given that you spent two episodes on 337 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: that soul crushing sequel, I am slightly less embarrassed about 338 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: nominating perhaps my favorite crap best of all time, nineteen 339 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: eighty two's Tron for the weird House treatment. I'm not 340 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: even sure I want you guys to dissect this personal 341 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: treasure and somehow it actually feels too wholesome for the show. 342 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: But allow me to make the case. All right, now, 343 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: I got it. We got a list of pros and 344 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: cons here. It's pretty long, but I'm going to it. Pros. 345 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: It's another film from the peculiar era where the Disney 346 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: Corporation had burned through all of Walt's ideas and was 347 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: desperately trying to remain innovative and relevant, taking big chances 348 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: with varying results. Black Hole returned to oz et cet 349 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: all right, Jeff Bridges, Jeff Bridges, and David Warner. Spectacular 350 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: sound design sample included wonderful orchestral analog electronic score by 351 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Wendy Carlos, perplexing ludicrous costumes in an echo of the 352 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: what are You crazy? No adult is going to sit 353 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: still for a ninety minute cartoon snow white naysayer story. 354 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: This was a huge bet on CGI in the era 355 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: where the very idea was laughable. Let's see okay more 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: pros A bizarre and never replicated style created by blending 357 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: actual CGI with classic animation, lighting, set design, practical and 358 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: film effects, all aimed at visualizing a world most people 359 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: had no interest in seeing in the first place. Cons 360 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: it's a terrible film. 361 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: I've got some thoughts about this, but let's continue with 362 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 3: Jeff's first. 363 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: Okay, the making of documentary included on the DVD is 364 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: maybe more interesting in the movie itself. Their tools were 365 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: so primitive they could scribble XYZ coordinates and pencil on 366 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 2: graph paper facts the documents across the country, and then 367 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: they had to wait days or weeks until they saw 368 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: the result printed on film. They didn't even have video 369 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: monitors for the computers. The live action scenes were augmented 370 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: manually on a frame by frame basis. Mistakes caused by 371 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: unconventional use of film created aberrant images, which they leaned 372 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: into within universe explanations, adding to the beauty and weirdness. 373 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: When this movie came out, it was rare for anyone 374 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: to own a computer or even use when at work, 375 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: and most people were not familiar with even the simplest terminology. 376 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: As a kid, I thought this film speaks to me. 377 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: It helped that most adults, including some of the cast, 378 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: found it incomprehensible. It is somewhat embarrassing to admit how 379 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: much it shaped my life. And career. I have watched 380 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: it dozens of times and know most of the dialogue 381 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: by heart, or at least did at some point. But still, 382 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: it's a really bad movie. I'm pretty sure I knew 383 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: it even then. It was never a movie you could 384 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: show to a regular person and expect them to enjoy it. 385 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: But it is a fascinating, attempted moonshot of a film, 386 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: filled with naive energy, both enthusiasm and skepticism for near 387 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: future tech, and a lot of really bad dialogue and 388 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: really bad acting by anyone not named Jeff Bridges or 389 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: David Warner. And I would argue that while it might 390 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: give it a run for its money, it's not worse 391 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: than Highlander two. Probably. Okay, that's my pitch. Thanks for 392 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: your time, Jeff. 393 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, I don't know if I agree that Tron 394 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: is a very bad movie. I certainly I do think 395 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: there are some things about the script that don't really 396 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: work as intended. Some parts of the movie are more 397 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: exciting than others, but I agree with your list of pros, 398 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: and I think they carry it a long way. Of course, 399 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: I love the main hero and villain. David Warner and 400 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: Jeff Bridges are fantastic. I also love the computerized villain 401 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: of the Master Control program and the way he manipulates 402 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: his underlings. There's particularly a scene that is burned into 403 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: my memory where the Master Control system is taunting David 404 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 3: Warner his hinchman and says something like He's like, you know, 405 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: what if I were to slow down some of your 406 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: compute cycles? And David Warner says, no, I need that, 407 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: And so it's just great. I love the music, you know, 408 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: The Wendy Carlos score is fantastic. I have aired many 409 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: complaints on this show before about movies that are too 410 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: reliant on CGI, but that's mostly aimed at modern CGI 411 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: that is attempting to look realistic. I think tronon actually much. 412 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: I agree with your comments actually about the visual style 413 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: of Tron. It embraces the limitations of early CGI in 414 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: a way that makes for a very unique and stylish 415 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: visual flare of its own. So I like the way 416 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: CGI is used and incorporated along with the traditional animation 417 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: and live action in Tron. So I agree there are 418 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: a lot a lot of the weaknesses I think are 419 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: kind of things in the script that that could have 420 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: been tightened up and made to work better. But but overall, 421 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: I think Tron is a success, and and I really 422 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: like a lot about the you know, just the aesthetics 423 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: of it. 424 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, I have I have not seen the original Tron 425 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: in a very long time. I have, I've seen the 426 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: sequel far more recently. I've played discs of Tron far 427 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: more recently than I have seen the original Tron. So 428 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't know i'd be up for giving it another look, 429 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: for sure. I think I had the story book with 430 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 2: the audio casset as a kid, and that's probably the 431 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: main thing I remember about Tron. But the sequel is 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: really cool to look at. So I think I can 433 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: definitely feel you on this idea of early CGI. Yes, 434 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: but creating, not attempting to create the real world, creating 435 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: this artificial world, and therefore there's something okay about it. Now. 436 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how you would feel about applying these 437 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: same thoughts to either film and the lawnmower Man franchise, 438 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: but I imagine you could make a similar case. 439 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's genuinely different, lawndwer Man. You would 440 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: have to you would be finding the diamonds in the 441 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 3: rough there that actually is bad. But I would defend 442 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: the core quality of tron It's fairly high. 443 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: All right, all right, I'm buying it. I'm down for 444 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: some tron at some point if we want to do that. 445 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Just want to say another thing that the Jeff mentions 446 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: about the movie that is good, and I totally agrees 447 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: that it has good sound design, just like the sound 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: effects for say, the light cycle races are very cool. 449 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 3: Like we can maybe get a little sample here if 450 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: you've never seen. At the premise of Tron is humans 451 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: get sucked into a video game world where they must 452 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: compete within these video games that people are playing in 453 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: like an arcade, and they don't even realize that there 454 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: are like little sentient beings down there inside the you know, 455 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: planes and cars they're piloting around on the screen and stuff. 456 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: And so the light Cycles is like a puzzle action 457 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: game where these motorcycles are racing around and they draw 458 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: a line behind them as they drive, which turns into 459 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: a wall and you can crash into the wall. 460 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has some really cool vehicles and stuff in it, 461 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: for sure. I remember the solar sale type vehicle being 462 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: pretty cool. I guess it's not quite a solar sale. 463 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: It's more of a laser sale vehicle, and I don't 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: remember what it was doing or why it was doing it. 465 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: I think they're using it to try to escape the 466 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: computer at the end. Okay, Yeah, this is Tron. He 467 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: fights for the users. 468 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Well, they have another one on the way. There's a 469 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five tron Aries coming out, so get excited. 470 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: It's got Jeff Bridges in it, and also Gillian Anderson 471 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: and also Jared Leto, so let's do it. 472 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 473 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: Also, as for the high Lander feedback, that's exactly what 474 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: we asked for. It was great to get a little 475 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: more a little more insight into where people were when 476 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: Highlander two came out and hit theaters. You know, the 477 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: excitement mixed with the surprise and the confusion and indeed 478 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: perhaps the anger. So yeah, thanks for writing in about that. 479 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: I mean it taught you a valuable lesson about not 480 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: building movies up too much before you see them. 481 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think it's always important to realize that 482 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 2: a good movie is something special by whatever standard you're 483 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: using to measure it, you know, and even just just 484 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: dealing with your own personal like, you know, if a 485 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: movie is feels special to you, that's great. But don't expect, 486 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: don't count on a sequel occurring at all. 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