1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: So hello, slow back. It's like, what did you think 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: of the song? And it was a good song. Is great, 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: the song is really good. But it shouldn't be fight 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: like a brave guy. It should just be fight like 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: a brave. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: And then you you figure out that it's guy. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, what up? 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 4: What up? What up? 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: What up? 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to kicking button, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: dropping names, and the red carpet line back hallways of 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: this industry we call showbiz. We want to get something 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: out of the way. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: Uh, we've been staying away from it a little bit. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Yes, but you know, we just want to weigh in 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: and just like get it over with because people have 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: sort of been asking us. 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Sean and I are big sports heads. 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone knows that about us, and sometimes that can 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: get us in trouble. When somebody is doing a sport 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: that we like in this town especially, we'll go to 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: them and say, like, we're big fans of the sports 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: that you do and you own the basketball. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Team, and that we give them encouragement. 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and Donald Sterling was someone who we had had 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: those kind of interactions with as mutual fans. 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: We had a lot in common with him. And so, yes, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: we had interactions as fans, and we sort of sat 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: pretty close to where he sits, and we also keep 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: our planes in the same playing house. And he had 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: come over to my dad's house before and hung out 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: in my basement apartment and I had gone to his 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: place before. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: So and people say like it's like, oh, you guys 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: were best friends, and it's insane. 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Please you know how many best friends I have. He's 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: my best friend and best This is a deported clarification. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: Best man is not the same thing as best friends. No, 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 3: he was best man only at me and Stephie's because 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: my brother died. 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: And that's for you have just an organizational ability. 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: He's good at scheduling and planning tricks planning. 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the party type events. And also my brother 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: dying was an accident, and I'm sick of getting the 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: emails about that where it's like, you know, the two 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: of us were in Hawaii together. He had been sleeping 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: with my girlfriend and then he fell off a cliff 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: and we were on a hike together, and I wish 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: that didn't happen. I mean, I just told you he 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: would have been the best man if not so didn't 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: you hear didn't you hear me say I said it. 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: That's irrefutable proof twenty seconds ago. 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you were actually listening, you'd know that 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: that was an accident. What happened. And I wish he 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: wasn't such a klutz. 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: And let's get this out of the way, Like we 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: want to say unequivocally, we do not think that the 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: things he said were good at all. 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Donald Sterling, not my brother. 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Donald Sterling, we thought said some stuff that was 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: absolutely not at all good. 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Ugly yes, ugly, st ugly words. I hated what he said. 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Yes, But. 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: At the same time, what happens you think about the 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: slippery slope when things that people say in their home 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: in privacy that are that they don't know that there's 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: a tape on, Like, where's the line? So he said 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: those things that were absolutely bad, for sure. 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: Awful things, awful, hated hearing them and hated knowing that 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: they were said. 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: He said those things to his friend in privacy. Where's 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: the line between that and maybe some conversation where he's 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: talking to his other friends and they're doing good. The 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: impressions of what black people sound like when they're mad, 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: like say, theoretically that. 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: Or the owner of a Korean nail salon. Sure, you know, 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: just something just you know there he's going, you know 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: why you know want long nail? Uh, that's why you 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: know I have boyfriend because you know I have long nail. 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: You know something like that? 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, and would that be bad? 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: That seems like in that conversation the friends would just 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: be doing it as a joke and they just thought 84 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: it was like everyone was just having fun. 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: And we're assuming that it's based on something real. It 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: really is. How you know that nail salon owner was 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: talking when he saw them? 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Is it now that? 90 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: Can you have your property sees from you under the 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: constitution for describing things that are real that happened? 92 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that something we can do now? I 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: don't know. 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: These are just questions and to educate you guys. It's 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: hard to think about because we're talking about a basketball team. 96 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: But let's say it's not a basketball team. Let's say 97 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: it's just a Hamburger sandwich. Yes, so it's a Hamburger 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: style sandwich. Yes that he owns so, or that I 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: own I'm owning this Hamburger style sandwich and I can't 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: wait to eat it during my lunchtime, and at the 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: same time, I get a call from my black Mexican lover. 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Who I I have. 103 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Requested. I have requested that he or she record some 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: of my thoughts because I've been getting pretty forgetful lately. 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: And in the course of that conversation, we have an 106 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: exchange where I say something that a lot of people 107 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: don't agree with. Maybe it's that. 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Who can swim, maybe who can't swim it doesn't matter. 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: Or even just that Shakespeare didn't write his own plays, 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: because I. 111 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Think it was that Earl. 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 3: I think it was the Earl of Oxford, the seventeenth 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: Earl of Oxford, who wrote most of his plays. Or 114 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: maybe Queen maybe Queen Elizabeth, it doesn't matter sexist to that. Well, 115 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: if you see anonymous you'd know. And so I'm saying that, 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: and then you don't agree with it? Now can you 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: come and take my Hamburger sandwich and eat it in 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: front of me? 119 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: And is that you? 120 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: Just think about what the founding fathers intended when they 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: drew up those great documents, And now were they thinking 122 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: that sometimes you can say certain words that you can 123 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: have your sandwich just resold to somebody else without you 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: signing off on it. 125 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Oh, and people are gonna act like it's like some 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: favor they're doing me because they're gonna pay me twice 127 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: what I paid for my Hamburger sandwich. Well that's not 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 3: the point. 129 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: I bought it because I want to eat it, or 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: even a hundred times as much. 131 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Does that matter what the number is. 132 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: The money is not important in that case, because you're hungry. 133 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: I'm hungry, and you love people need food. I love 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: Hamburger sandwich. So in that way it seems very unfair. 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: And at what point then do we transfer into and Hayes, 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: you brought this up thought crime? Yes, And can I 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: not think that maybe someone you know wasn't swimming good? 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: Or can I not think that maybe somebody didn't write 139 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: something they other people think they wrote. 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: M h is it if you read Animal Farm and 141 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: you look at how they did to the pigs and 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: how the pigs went against society with disruptive ideas, and 143 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: so they said the pigs couldn't be the boss anymore. 144 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: If you just read a book every once in a 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: while and you would see that's actually what is today. 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: And whoever is the one who says that that you 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: can't be a boss. Then they become the new boss, 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: and they become just as bad as pigs, because the 149 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: pigs became like the people. And I imagine that the 150 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: horse or whatever was going to become like the pig, 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: except I guess he got killed put to the glue factory. 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: So that was a very scary part. Yes, and I 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: skip it when him all up, he didn't do anything wrong. 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: Black in a way, is he sort of like I 155 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: don't want to say he's the same as Donald Sterling, 156 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: but is the book a certain kind of story where 157 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: it represents real and to. 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: Clear up some of the Donald Sterling stuff that we've 159 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: been getting hammered on. Having someone be the godfather of 160 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: your children, it's not the same. 161 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that that's your best friend. 162 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: That's an organizational issue too, scheduling, just being good with excel, 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: Like that's why you have someone be the godfather or. 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Well it's just their name, you know, is just easy 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: to spell or whatever a lot of times, and so 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: you just put it on the form and whatever. 167 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: He's accessible. 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: He always answers the phone, and that's what that's the 169 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: kind of thing that you need. 170 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: And if you look in the mirror. At some point, listener, 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 3: you are going to be getting older and you are 172 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: going to want to have your black Mexican lover recording 173 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: some of the things that you say, because unfortunately we 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: all do start to lose a step. 175 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: And now apparently that's against the rules, and that's not 176 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: something you can do anymore. 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: Think about things that you've said before about maybe not 178 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: liking a particularly popular song and then all of a 179 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: sudden that song everyone does like it. 180 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the internet outrage machine is unleashed on you. 181 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 3: Imagine they put that out there. 182 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Just for you being yourself, and well, I don't know, 183 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: maybe you the Constitution and see maybe you maybe you. 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: Walked out a Grand Budapest hotel and you said, oh, yuck, 185 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 3: I didn't like rape fines in that m Well, everyone 186 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: did like him. 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: So and you guys thought, and we should make clear 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: that is absolutely just an example. I thought he was 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: so good, so winning, or such a winning person. 190 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Revelation, so charming. And I will say again to this 191 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: is an example of a horrible thing. You could say, 192 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: like some of the disgusting things Donald. 193 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Said, Yes, such horrible things the US and nasty and 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: we hate it. 195 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: But if you said something, you know, maybe not equally bad, 196 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: but in the same tier, like criticizing Ray Fines and 197 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: someone played that then I. 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: Could just come and take your hamburger sandwich. 199 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and he's not as much of our friend anymore. 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: And like us, us having this conversation is this is 201 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: as honest as we have been with him. And we 202 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: said Donald that you said it was what you said, 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: forget it. 204 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: No thanks, And I know you said it in private, 205 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: but if you said it in front of me, you 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: would have been getting a punch in the nose. 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: No dice, no dice, Donald, And no, it's not allowed. 208 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: And you'd be out on your butt. And you're lucky 209 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: you didn't say it in front of me because you 210 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been invited to this pool party. And so 211 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: that's the kind of stand that we've taken. We have 212 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: a great guest today speaking of the legends. Dave Thomas 213 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: is here from SCTV and and from Bob and Doug and. 214 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Grace Grace Underfire. Involved in Coneheads in some capacity, probably. 215 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: Movie the experts, and he has been on in arrested 216 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: development in recent years. 217 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, he was mister f an arrested development. 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: He's going to talk about all those things and more 219 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: stories from his Hollywood days coming right up on this show. 220 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Hollywood Handbook, Hollywood Handbook. 221 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: So she jumps out of the cake like surprise, and 222 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: then I go, the only surprise, Melissa Bridge, is that 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: you think you're. 224 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to my home. 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: And I rolled the cake down the stairs and you hear. 226 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: It falling all the way down, and she died. 227 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, I think, by the way, oh forget it. 228 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: Hey, Welcome to Hollywood Handbook, An Insider's guide to kicking 229 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: button dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: this industry we call showbiz. We have a really, really 231 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: great guest today. It's it's an honor to have him. 232 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: Sean and I have been doing this for a long time. 233 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: TV movies, comedy, drama, all these things, and sometimes we 234 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: like to bring someone who's been doing it as long 235 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: as we have that can we can sort of share 236 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: stories from back in the day. Dave Thomas is here. 237 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: How are you guys. It's great to be here. 238 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: It's so nice alive. 239 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, good, I'll say, lucky of stuff we've been through. 240 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: And for some people, I feel like it's not good 241 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: for them to be alive because maybe they haven't done 242 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: some of the things that we've done. 243 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: They don't deserve to be alive. 244 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: That's a great way to think, very well, put, they 245 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: haven't earned it. 246 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. What are you up to these days? 247 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: I'm in semi rehirement and but meaning I'm doing our television. 248 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's what it is. 249 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: Is that it is. It's very very nice. It's it's 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: like a it's like a paid vacation. It's old Hollywood, man. 251 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: It's the last of the of those our studio three 252 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: million inf dinosaur shews and then they're gone, and I 253 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: want to get my share of that loot before they're gone. 254 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: And how much of your motivation is just grabbing the 255 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: cash before you take off out the door? 256 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: Ninety eight. 257 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: And that and that two percent. 258 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 4: Art, that's altruism and art. It's why each. 259 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Eachrum one percent for altruism for art. 260 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: And it was a bigger percentage earlier when I started out. 261 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: But you got to let it go because it's not 262 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: about altruism, it's not about art. 263 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: What a great lesson that ultimately you do have to 264 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: let it go. And the sooner the better. Yeah, that 265 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: no one's in this for really anything other than you 266 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: can make a fuck ton of hot cash, and something 267 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: about just having a big sweet pile of dose if 268 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: stacked up in your bank account, and being able to 269 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: buy stuff, but also being able to buy people. 270 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: Yes, and girls and girls who wouldn't look at you 271 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: if you weren't rich or on TV or in the movies. 272 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: Let's be honest. 273 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know the deal, Dave. We know you from 274 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: sort of the old. 275 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: The Canadian comedy scene when we were up there sort 276 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: of doing it with you and Gordy Howe, Yeah, who 277 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: I still say, the funniest, the most naturally talented comedian 278 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: I've ever encountered, and there's never been anyone like him. 279 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: And he chose to go a different route a little bit. 280 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: He did some hockey, which was I don't know, I 281 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: thought it was crazy. 282 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wish he hadn't only because for selfish reasons, Yes, 283 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: because I would have loved to be cracking up. 284 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: We missed out, We missed out on a great talent. 285 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: And he is alive, but it is sort of like 286 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: he's dead just because he isn't doing industry stuff. 287 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: He was the only guy who could do Gary Cooper 288 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: back then, Hm, no one else could do and impress 289 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: to Gary Cooper. But Gordy he fucking nailed it, man, Yes, 290 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: like just cat it. 291 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: He like in habited him, Yes he would, way he was. 292 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: His face changed. You do those scenes from the fountain Head, 293 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: you know, yes, and his face would change and you'd 294 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: go like, where'd Gordy go? And how'd Gary get in here? 295 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: It's right? 296 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: And when he would say like, it's high noon Podner 297 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: and you just laugh, you laugh and laugh. 298 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: And do you still talk to Gordy? 299 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. He does a lot of celebrity golf fundraisers 300 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 4: and things like this now. 301 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: And you show up to heckle him. 302 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: I do, I do, and remind him that he made 303 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: a big mistake. And he can write a book about 304 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: hockey if he wants, but his real book should have 305 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: been about this business. 306 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: It's so funny that he does a celebrity golf tournament 307 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: when really we're the real celebrities and he's just a 308 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: fucking athlete, which is so easy. 309 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: We should do a celebrity celebrity tournament. Well, we don't 310 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: actually raise money for anyone, and we don't actually do 311 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: anything except sit around and talk about ourselves, because I 312 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: can't think of anything more interesting. 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but not for free. 314 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: No, well people would pay for that, of course, But 315 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: I don't want to give this to a bunch of 316 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: ball cancer kids. I think we should just keep it. 317 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: Divide it three ways or four ways? How does that work? 318 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh and Dave's looking at engineer Sam right now, And 319 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: this is one of his classic humorous bits where he'll 320 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: treat someone in the room like they are of substance 321 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: when we all kind of know. 322 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: That he used to play in the old days. 323 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: No, no, it's still, it's still. 324 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: It's a still good. 325 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: I do it at the Friars Club. You know, the 326 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: waiters and those guys, they would look at me like, 327 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: what what you know? 328 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: Me? 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: Go, Barnie, I know you, I love you. 330 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: You your part of this. 331 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: Come on. 332 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: And their name's not Barney, And no I didn't. 333 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: Know what the name was. Yeah, this is not important. 334 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: It's better. 335 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's better to not know it for that joke. 336 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 4: That's gone now. Of course, my last visit there Friar's Club, 337 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: the bathroom spelled like a geriatric hospital. It was disgusting. 338 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: It's a good thing they shut it down. 339 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: Speak on that bathroom. Mmmm, more on it, speak on that. 340 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you go in there. I was having lunch with 341 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: John Byner. You remember him. 342 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, John Binder, the. 343 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: Comedian John Bayner. Yeah yeah, John Baynery. 344 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 345 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: Did a little comedy. Then he went into Paulics his 346 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: goal upset the. 347 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: The funniest guy. I mean, I can't believe he chose 348 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: to go a different way, because he could have been 349 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: one of the greats. 350 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, his old evangelist bit. 351 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. 352 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: And then and then he started taking himself seriously. I 353 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: don't know, so I am. I'm in there with Bainer 354 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: or as he was doing back then. 355 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Before he got rid of it. But the Jewish, Yeah exactly. 356 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: And and we're having lunch and he's very bitter. He's 357 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: talking about how the business has changed and everything else 358 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: tonight go yeah, you know, all this has got my 359 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: yearine flowing to take a leak. So I go the bathroom. 360 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: I almost threw up. It was like, Okay, there is 361 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: a consistency and odor of older people's poop that's different 362 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: than the healthy, vigorous poop of young people. And the 363 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: people in the Friars Club were old and geriatric and 364 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: it was disgusting. I had to get out of there 365 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: because that that is death. The two things you don't 366 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: want in this business. One you don't want to hang 367 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: around with failures. Two you don't want to smell old poop. 368 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 4: And they're very closely related. 369 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Those two Scoop, troop, get your get your notebooks out. 370 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: You know, that's great advice for being successful in Hollywood. 371 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: Don't smell poop. 372 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 3: There's medical information in there. There's there's Hollywood advice. And 373 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: so then you had them shut the club down. 374 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, damn straight, I did. I knew some people, you know, 375 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: I still had some contacts. 376 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: Some people with a big wrecking ball, and some people 377 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: at the Friars Club who could do a vote. 378 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: Okay, all those who can sur favors say, I put 379 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: the hands up, and then they voted and shut the 380 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 4: damn thing down. Good riddance, Good riddance, Dave. 381 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: You talk about how the business has changed. 382 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: How has it for people now who think that podcasts 383 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: have been around forever, uh and just watch everything on 384 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: their computers. 385 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: How has business changed? 386 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: Well, in the old days, guys like Joel Silver who 387 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 4: produced Lethal Weapon and a ton of movies. Yeah, very good. 388 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: Friend of mine, Joel could do a show. And he 389 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: has a Frank Lloyd Wright house here, and he has 390 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: a Frank Lloyd Wright house in North Carolina. 391 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: Frank Lloyd Writ's a famous architect, Yes, and just the 392 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 3: funniest guy in person I've ever met. 393 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: Yes, he kills you gotta kill. 394 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: He rushes, What a funny deadpant. 395 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: He's the master of dead pants. 396 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well the way he puts water on this 397 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: house or whatever, You're just like, okay, uh, freakin', what 398 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: are you Cabanco's nuts or something. But it's like that's 399 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: you know, that's just Frank. 400 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Cabanco's nuts thing. 401 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: So anyway, Joel is doing lethal Weapon and he goes, 403 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: I gotta fix up this Frank Lloyd White house. But 404 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: it cost me a million dollars to do this. So hey, 405 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 4: wait a minute, I get the art department from my 406 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: movie to do it. It's a budget. This is so big, 407 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: nobody's ever going to miss some money. So he has 408 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: the art department spend over two million dollars out of 409 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: the budget of the movie fixing up his house. Warner 410 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: Brothers finds out about it. You know what they do, 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 4: They haul him into the offices and they say, don't 412 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: do that again. What's your next movie going to be? 413 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Joel? 414 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 4: That's the old business that I miss in love. 415 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes, it used to be that you could commit crimes. 416 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: You could do whatever you wanted to do. If you 417 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 4: were hot, the town was yours. You could do whatever 418 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: you want. There's no law. 419 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Now they'd put you in jail or something stupid. Yeah, 420 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: or yeah, they because they're jealous. The police are jealous. 421 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: They'll twitter about you until you have to confess and 422 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: then where are you? 423 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, it's jail. 424 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: It's not in jail. 425 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're in jail. 426 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Bob Hope had girlfriends. Bob Hope is not good looking, 427 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: but a lot of money. Hope's girlfriends were legendary. 428 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Because they were so tall. 429 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 4: Miss America there were there was probably at least a 430 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: dozen Miss Americas that slept them all sisters. Yeah, yeah, 431 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: it's like, what the hell was that? Seven brothers and 432 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: seven sisters. You remembered that almost. 433 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Seven brothers and seven sisters. Brothers and sisters, Yeah, the 434 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: old movie. And they all married each other and they 435 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: went to jail. 436 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 437 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob Hope, I will say also one of the funniest, uh, 438 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: those guys back in the day. 439 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, funny. 440 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: He gave Gordie a run for his money a time 442 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: or two back in those old clubs. 443 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: Him pretending to care about soldiers, where he would do 444 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: that thing where he would show up and be like, 445 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: thank you for your sir, we love you. 446 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: And the whole time he's making fun of them. 447 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have no idea do the thing you. 448 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: Know that we all like to do where we're making 449 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: fun of soldiers. 450 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and this guy he made a killing fortune 451 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: doing that. 452 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: You know, so much money. There's so much money in 453 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: making fun of soldiers, and it's a real untapped market 454 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. And I feel like it's 455 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 3: going away. I mean, that's another thing that's changing. 456 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: Well, the wars are going away, that's why. And we 457 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: got to get some people in Washington to get some 458 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 4: wars going so we can start the mockery of soldiers, 459 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: I think, to make fun of right now, No, not really. 460 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: Will you make fun of the economy, Give me a break, 461 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: it's already a joke. Thank you you're there, I see that. 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, God blessed hair Obama. 463 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: You know what I mean yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 464 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm doing baby. You guys listening, you're 465 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: talking to. 466 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: You two to me anyway. They don't know what that is. 467 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Dave. Yeah, the SETV days. Yeah, you ran with a 468 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: lot of comedians back then. What's the inside scoop on 469 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: who was least talented? 470 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: Mmm? 471 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: You want the real honest with Yes, you're looking at 472 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: a baby. I was the least talented of all of them. 473 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: But that's got nothing to do with what makes things 474 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: click in this business. Because I knew that this business 475 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: is about relationships, not about talent, and I made relationships 476 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: with all these people and then next thing, you know, 477 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: I want of them, Thank you very much. I'm cashing 478 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: a check. I'm sitting at sorties. I'm doing the thing. 479 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, fantastic and Sorities you also had destroyed. 480 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a picture of me, you know, Hirshfield, 481 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: Hirschfeld art nice crude looking, didn't do me justice, skeedch 482 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: my face up. 483 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: On the wall. 484 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: And when my picture went down, what do you think 485 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to take that line down? 486 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: In the restaurant. 487 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: I knew people who could shut that thing down. And 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: what was the same people as the Friars Club. Either 489 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: it's I got more than one arrow in my quiver, 490 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: so to speak, if I can use that metaphor. 491 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: It always seemed to use it here. 492 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you benefited on SETV because you were alphabetically last yeah, 493 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: in your your last name, so the credits would always 494 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: build so that you were like the Big Show. 495 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: And you know what clinched it. I They said we 496 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: got to get an announcement for the show. I said, 497 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: I'll do it for nothing. Wow, That way I can 498 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: push my own name. 499 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: See, yeah, really blow it out. 500 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: What a great tip at home, if you're thinking of 501 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: coming to Hollywood, maybe change your name so that it 502 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: has a Z in it or something like that at 503 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: the beginning, even yeah, at the Yeah, put it at 504 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: the top, because that's why, you know, we all know 505 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: who Hans Zimmer is, but nobody's ever heard of Hans 506 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: Abrams because he Abel, Yeah, Alan Abel, or Alan Arkin 507 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: or even Alan Arkin or even Alan Aldo. You know, 508 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: none of those guys are going to the sea. 509 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: It's Jim Cromwell. Nobody knows him. 510 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 3: Nobody knows Cromwell. 511 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: We had him on the show. 512 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: You did what right after Babe the Big Movie? 513 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: Yep, shortly after Babe, and he was very tired from it. 514 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: He finished Babe, he was exhausted. 515 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: He's a giant, you know, he had his tibia's Lengthen. 516 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: You have to do that, you have to if. 517 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: You want to get noticed. He's played the president several times, 518 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: and nobody likes a short, stubby president. 519 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: No, you can't, and that's the everyone hates that only reason. 520 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: Danny DeVito's not allowed to play president. And he's the 521 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: most qualified, acting wise. 522 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: More qualified than Martin Sheen. Come on, let's be honest. 523 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: But Martin's got those big long tibbias. My god, you 524 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: could make. 525 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: A Getaways on Martin Sheen and. 526 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 4: Yes, crazy, there are some shots where they screwed up 527 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 4: and the camera will go wide and you'll see these 528 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: like four or five foot long legs on the desk. 529 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: Makes no goddamn sense. That's not the desk in the 530 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: Oval office, but it's the desk that Sheen's at behind, 531 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: because he needed a tall desk for those lengthened tibbia's his. 532 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: You know, I think he's got his femur's done too. 533 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: That's gluttony. 534 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh well, we don't want to get sued here. Hang 535 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: on guys. 536 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: At a certain point, you've got to do a show 537 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: that is a celebration of you. You know what I'm saying, Yes, 538 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: I think you've done enough for the community of Hollywood 539 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: that maybe it's time to take a little dip in 540 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: like you and get some comeback. 541 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, too generous. 542 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we get that a lot. I appreciate that. 543 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: People ask why we have guests. They go, aren't you 544 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: guys the guests? 545 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: And we are. 546 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: And I will say it is a selfish thing on 547 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: my part because helping people makes me feel good. You know, 548 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: it's a high, It's like a drug. So it is 549 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: a celebration of us. Because and helping dogs, yes, and 550 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: adopting strange dogs. 551 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: But they're not going to find you in a hotel room, 552 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: you know, with your underwear around your ankles and you know, 553 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: a needle in your arm when you're helping people and 554 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: they're helping dogs. You know what I'm saying, You're not 555 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: going to become Hollywood tragedies. You're going to become and 556 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: I think you already are Hollywood heroes. 557 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, and I don't shoot in my arm, No, 558 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: I respect that and between my toes are I put 559 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: or I stick it up my ass? 560 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that. 561 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: There really is, and people will try to tell you 562 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: that there is. But Scoop, troop, get out your pens. 563 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with it. 564 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: When I started, they used to call the ass shoots 565 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 4: the highway to Heaven. Those are the days, man, those 566 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: are the days. 567 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: I do miss that. 568 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do too. Pretty fantastic. Uh Sunset Marquee Hotel, 569 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: you kinds of her hang there in the old days. 570 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, brothers. 571 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Were rehearsing before their big show. 572 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, crazy food. 573 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, just where sunset divides there, what is it? Sunset 574 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: Alta Loma or whatever that street is, goes down to Santa. 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Monica, Halloway, Yeah, yeah, Halloween. 576 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: And then there's the Sunset Marquee. This hotel, it's nowhere, 577 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: it's out of the That's where it was going on. Man, 578 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: it was really happening there, big time for a while. 579 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: The food and the very comfortable beds, sure's happening there 580 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: a long time. 581 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Speak on that, yeah, speak on that. 582 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: Well. They pulled more than one body out of that hotel. 583 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, if you didn't die there, you 584 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: were bullshit. Yeah, you were just nobody if you weren't 585 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: dying at the Chateau Marmont. 586 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now I've gone there and done stand up at 587 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: lunch so that I could die metaphorically because I didn't 588 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: have the balls to die. 589 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: It's very breakdown. That lunch crowd is tough. 590 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 591 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: I remember being on a plane once that was starting 592 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 3: to crash, and I asked the pilot to steer it 593 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: towards the Chateau Marmak because I said, I'm just going 594 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: to be so embarrassed if i die in this crash 595 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: and it's not at the Chateau, because I'm too big 596 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: a deal. Now, I wound up being able to stop 597 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: the plane crash match, But it's an important lesson of 598 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: how we value our legacy. 599 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: Do you know what else is an important lesson here 600 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: in the understated heroism of saving two hundred and ninety 601 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: three lives which you just washed over. I don't care. 602 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: I don't care about you wouldn't none of those people 603 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: you wouldn't know get. 604 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Very embarrassed when you please. But it is a big deal. 605 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: It is. It was nice of you, know what I mean. 606 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: On ex Spree was on the plane with me. 607 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: I feel today three is a crowd, you know what 608 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: I mean? I feel like I'm joining you, but I 609 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: feel like, honestly, you don't name me. 610 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: Oh, Dada, sit down, dat day, Dave, come back here, 611 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: get all the way back here, Sam, go get dated, Dave, Sam, 612 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: Dave for us. 613 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 4: I'm back. I'm coming. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold. 614 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: On, thank you, and Sam, don't be so rough with now, Dave. 615 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: We have a segment that we like to do on 616 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: this show. Yes, it is not easy to articulate what 617 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: the segment is. 618 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: The segment is called it's a It's where people ask 619 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: questions of our guests, our listeners will submit questions. 620 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: If someone wants to know something, they ask a question. Yes, 621 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: it's just how it is. 622 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: Okay, it's called the popcorn Gallery. And people say why 623 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: why is it called that. We've tried many times to 624 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: explain to people why would be called the popcorn gallery? 625 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Successful, maybe you can explain for. 626 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: Them, well, what is the part of showbiz that is trivial? 627 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: You go to a movie, you see the movie, you 628 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: get a box of popcorn, you get a bang of popcorn. Yes, 629 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: you don't need the popcorn, but it's part of the experience. Yeah, 630 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: maybe that's the metaphor that the audience is part of 631 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 4: the experience, but do we need them? 632 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: That's it. 633 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: Finally somebody got it. It's taken quite a lot. 634 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: Taken thirty two episodes. Finally someone figured out why it's 635 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: called the popcorn Gallery. 636 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: It's so simple. Yeah, we could have just said that. 637 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: All along until you have a long career. 638 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: So we we've got two choices here. We can be 639 00:32:53,240 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: true to our conscience and our I feel like an 640 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: idiot lecture you guys on this most self effacing Hollywood 641 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: heroes ever met on conscience. But we could ignore the 642 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: popcorn and just go fuck the popcorn. We're not doing 643 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: popcorn because popcorn is not essential. 644 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Or we could do Let's do both and we'll do 645 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: the segment, but just talk about how it's. 646 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: How unimportant it is. 647 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Yes, fine, let's reach into the popcorn bag and we'll 648 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: take out the first question, Oh, big piece of popcorn. 649 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: This question is from Rye jel Dave. 650 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: You are a jel m. Yeah, Dave, you. 651 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: Are a renowned Hollywood lithario, second only to Warden Bady 652 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: and your woman's slaying exploits. Walk us through your faithful 653 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: decision reportedly made back on the set of Grace Underfire 654 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: to never ever wear a condom. 655 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: Well, I was working with a co star on that 656 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: show who's from Alabama, and she's the one who won 657 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 4: me over to the no condom philosophy. She said, if 658 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: there's no danger, it ain't shacks. You know what I'm saying, sweet. 659 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: And I thought, that's a very good impression. 660 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 4: Damn it, I'm getting rid of this rubber and I'm 661 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: going to ride. That's what I did. 662 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: And you also started keeping a loaded gun on the 663 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 3: bedside table. Huh. 664 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 4: Actually in the drawer. Yeah, I'm not a show off. 665 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: It's there, but it's not ostentatious. It's not there for 666 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 4: all to see. It's just there. 667 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 668 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: And you know about it. I know about it. 669 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what keep it. 670 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you what I wouldn't keep in that drawer. 671 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 4: It's a pack of condoms. 672 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: Disgusting, becaunless. 673 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: You're going to shoot them with the gun. 674 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good that never occurred to me. That's 675 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: kind of the Elvis sex thing. I love that you 676 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: shoot the t You stick a bunch of condoms on 677 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: the TV, and you shoot. 678 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: It probably do this. It's we you know, you collaborate. 679 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: Yes, three brains are better than one, you know. 680 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: But as my co star said when I told her 681 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 4: no condoms in my Drawceres, that makes you. It makes 682 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 4: you a real man, she said to me, and she 683 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: sean anger management. 684 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 2: Now, yes, one of the funniest. I'm so glad that 685 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 2: that things are working out. 686 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: And I'm yes, I'm doing concerned there aren't enough episodes 687 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: of the show. But at the same time, there you go. 688 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: You guys, are you just got so much love in 689 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: you for the rest of the business. 690 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 3: I just I don't know why they don't have a parade. 691 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: Well you're on. You wouldn't want We don't like it's 692 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: such a big clean but there's. 693 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: So much jealousy in this business and just snarky, backbiting, 694 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: and there try to be we try to be an 695 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: antidote to that. 696 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another question. 697 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: Shoot, what's this in the pop going back? It's sort 698 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 3: of meteorite. 699 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll eat it anyway. 700 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: Now, okay, I thought it was done. 701 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: This one's from Washington, Mona. 702 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: Gent Dave Thomas, you were in the animated films Brother 703 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: Bear and Brother Bear too. Was it scary working with 704 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: the Bears horrifying. 705 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: One of the things they don't tell you when you're 706 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: doing animation is the danger that's involved in the job. 707 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: And I got admit I was cavalier. I didn't expect it. 708 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 4: But you know, I think Maranas and I probably escaped 709 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 4: by the skin of our teeth on at least three 710 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: occasions where we could have been mauled to death and eaten, 711 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 4: left headless in some animated frame, some panel of a 712 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: winter wonderland and there we are just bleeding stumps. We 713 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 4: got out of it. But don't ever lowball animation. It's 714 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: dangerous as hell. I did another one that was dangerous too, 715 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 4: where I played a villain in a Superman Warner Brothers 716 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 4: sing the Legion of Justice. That's what it was. It's 717 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 4: fucking dangerous stuff. I nearly got killed in that one too. 718 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 4: Superman tried to punch you punching yeah, yeah. 719 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: And and you were playing yourself in that No. 720 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: I was playing a character, thank god, because that's part 721 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 4: of what saved me. I had a big, like two 722 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: dimensional flat head, but I could have I could have 723 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 4: been killed. 724 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: That pretty scary stuff, and I think I'd like to 725 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: move away from this question because I'm getting too scared. 726 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're thinking about your viewers again. 727 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: I wish I could say it was that generous, but 728 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 3: I am getting a little too scared and I do 729 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: need a bit of a break. 730 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's reach back into the bag. 731 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: My hands in the soda. I guess this is the 732 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: ice keeps making this story. I'll pull it out and 733 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: dry it off. 734 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: Then here's a question from Octordoctopus, Dave, you recently had 735 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: a guest appearance on the Fox series Bones. Was it 736 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: scary being surrounded by so many skelingtons on the set 737 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: where you tempted to rearrange them into a xylophone so 738 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: maybe a pirate ghost could play it? 739 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: Now, that's a trick question because you called them skelingtons, 740 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: and that lets me know that you know more than 741 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: you're pretending. Yes, because the skelington. 742 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: Is he's pointing at me after Octopus, but he's talking 743 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: to you because you submitted the question. 744 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 4: It's infinitely more scary than a skeleton. Yes, okay, and 745 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 4: thank you for pointing that out, because a lot of 746 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: people think, oh, they go to a graveyard and they 747 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 4: get some bodies that have decomposed and they put them 748 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 4: on the set. They don't do that. They make these skelingtons, 749 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: and they're scary as hell and they have the ability 750 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: to kill you. So thank you for pointing that out 751 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 4: and reminding all of us of how dangerous the work 752 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 4: is and. 753 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 6: How honestly, maybe completely candidate, we deserve a little danger pain. 754 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 6: There's a little bonus or a little kick the fox, 755 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 6: mister Murdoch and his infinite wisdom of building an empire 756 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 6: for his children. I guess he just didn't think that 757 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 6: maybe he's risking people's thoughts. 758 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: So you could work per diem because you good die? 759 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, per diame yeah for the dead. 760 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: Speak on that. 761 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: Well, there's per diems, which you used to get in 762 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 4: the old days when you went on and did a show. 763 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 4: Then there's the per diames, which you get if you're 764 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 4: willing to give your life for the show. I don't 765 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: take per diams, no, because I'm a sucker. Oh no. 766 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 3: But it's a nice chunk of check, chunk of change. 767 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: It's a nice chunk. 768 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: It's a nice chunk of chang. 769 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 770 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 4: It is it's Chinese currency or possibly bitcoin. It depends 771 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 4: really they pay you in whatever they whatever they got 772 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 4: that day. But yeah, per dimes, don't don't mess around 773 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 4: with them. They'll kill you. 774 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: But it's tempting, right because it is a nice chunk 775 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 3: of chang. 776 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 4: It's a nice chunk of chang. Yeah, there's no question. 777 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: And early, early in my career, I might have taken 778 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: a per dime or two, just you know, just because 779 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: I just fucking love money so much. 780 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 4: Was that in your early TV days? Is the Shanghai 781 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 4: Check TV stuff that you did in Formosa? That stuff 782 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 4: was fantastic. Man, Most people don't know about that because 783 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: they don't pay attention to international TV. 784 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: It was stupid. 785 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: No, No, you made a dictator look great? Who can 786 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 4: do that? 787 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: It was important to me that he'd be likable, you know, 788 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, there's so many TV characters who 789 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 3: are just foul villains, and I just thought, shouldn't we 790 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: like this guy? And how do you make him likable? 791 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: He was a clutter? 792 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: You give him, yes, you make him a clutz, You 793 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: give him some heart. Okay, you have somebody else say 794 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 3: how much he's likable? Well you were, heise are the tricks? 795 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 4: You were a sidekick there. But let me tell you something. 796 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: For my money, you were the star. 797 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. 798 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the money that I got paid as 799 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: well as getting paid more than the star. So I 800 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: was not really a sidekick in that way. 801 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 4: Okay, So. 802 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Not really, you know, not really a. 803 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 3: Sidekick just in turn, that's not how the show thought 804 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: of me, because obviously I'm getting the most money there. 805 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 4: See, I didn't know that. Now you're you're getting into 806 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: the behind the scenes stuff, the transparency that people love. 807 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 4: Speak on that. 808 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: Well, the money that I made was more than the 809 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 3: other performers the show. 810 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 4: Okay, and that's very similar to what you said a 811 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 4: moment ago. If we could kind of push the veil 812 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 4: aside and get behind that to what. 813 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 3: Well, in my team negotiated my deal. They made sure 814 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: that the amount of dollars I was getting would be 815 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: higher than the other performers. 816 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 4: And this would have been your super team, the w 817 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 4: Emmy f O, William Morris, Formosa Agents. Those guys are deadly, 818 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: they're short, but they're they're legion. 819 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: They're vipers. 820 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, before you know it, you'll be rotating on a spit. 821 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: What an apple in your mouth? 822 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 4: What a great start for your career, What a what 823 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: a building block, and you've built on that block, I 824 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 4: got to tell you, and you're still here. 825 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I outlasted shang Ka check and uh, and 826 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 3: my legacy outlasts is as well. Good job, Grassius and Migo, Dave. 827 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: Is there anything you'd like to plug any upcoming shows? 828 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: Or I was at a party with a Cheech and 829 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 4: you know him from the smoke? 830 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 5: Oh? 831 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I know. I know Tommy. I did that seventies 832 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 4: show with Tommy. I'm very familiar with him. But Cheech 833 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: I hadn't really met, and I was standing beside him 834 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 4: and it was one of those awkward moments where we're 835 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 4: We're like, the party's going on, and we got nothing 836 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: to say to each other. And I turned to him 837 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 4: and I said to him this, say this Zor What 838 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 4: kind of man is he? And he looks at me 839 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: and laughs, and I said, do you know, tink, he 840 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: resembles down to go to La Vega. I personally think 841 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 4: without the mask he would be the same man. And 842 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: he does so much for the poor. This started a conversation, 843 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 4: and we want to do a comedy Zorro. Nobody's touched 844 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 4: that one yet, and I think there's plenty of action 845 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: and plenty of fun to be had south of the 846 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 4: Border with me and Cheech and the Adventures of Zoro. 847 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 4: We're not gonna play Zoro. Somebody's got to be Bernardo, 848 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 4: his blind or deaf assistant, and somebody's got to be 849 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 4: Sergeant Garcia. I think I can do Garcia. I think 850 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 4: he can do Bernardo. And then we need like a 851 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 4: young cool Oh my god, either of you guys could 852 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 4: be this character. 853 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so your plug is for you and Cheech 854 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: is comedy Zorro, Yes, starring me and Hayes as Zorro. 855 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a way to do it, so 856 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 2: we come buy with the computers and stuff they're doing now, 857 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 2: we use your hair and my kind of like torso. 858 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 4: That or you could do a little thing I like 859 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 4: to call Zoro two point zh both of you play Zoral. 860 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 4: Two guys on one horse. Am I talking of recipe 861 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 4: for comedy? 862 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 3: I think we're ready for that? 863 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think it look creating the black I 864 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 4: really do. 865 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 866 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: Well, we'll have our teams call you. Dave, thanks so 867 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 3: much for coming in today, and uh, please everyone at 868 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 3: home who's listened, uh enjoy the show. Like it on 869 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: Facebook rate it on iTunes, write a nice little review. 870 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 3: I get on the forums, talk to us, put yourself 871 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 3: in the popcorn gallery and uh by the pro version Hayes, 872 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 3: do you know who about the program? 873 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: Joe about it? 874 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: And he got a question and he bought the pro version. 875 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: But what's his prize? 876 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 3: His prize is that Dave Thomas is going to uh 877 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 3: give you one of the lines from one of Zorro's 878 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 3: friends that will appear in the pilot. 879 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: He's going to deliver it to you, Rai Jil. So 880 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: this is a secret scoop. This is a scene. 881 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 3: Raigel's just walked into the party. You're one of Zorro's friends, 882 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: and you sort of turned to Raijil and you say. 883 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 4: I don't know who you are. I need to see 884 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: some identification. Oh that's a real line. That's a real line, 885 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 4: and I feel bad for sharing it, but I think 886 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 4: Roger learned it. 887 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: He did, he did. 888 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: Bye. This has been an Earwolf Media production Executive producers 889 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 3: Jeff Ulrick and Scott Ackerman. 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