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Speaker 2: He is a feast for the Capitol.

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Speaker 3: Fie the cook is in the kitchen, looks.

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Speaker 2: Down the sideline. He's got kickadd for a twenty three

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Speaker 3: Jumping up in the air is bad for these these

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Speaker 3: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to a water logged One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 2: for a Thursday edition of One Bills Live. Chris brown

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Speaker 2: Steed tasker with you, April showers. Oh maybe they'll bring

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Speaker 2: many flowers. I think everything's drowning right now. It's not

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Speaker 2: a good day to be a worm man. Those guys

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Speaker 3: Even worms have need a day off.

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Speaker 2: Let's just this is Oh, it's also wet dog paw

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Speaker 2: season for those of you that let your dog out back.

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Speaker 2: We still have our deer vermin problem, Steve. They come

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Speaker 2: trapesing through the other day and like they look at you,

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Speaker 2: like what are you looking at? They have no neck.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens when you have no natural predators anymore.

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Speaker 2: Because we used to actually have, like ten years ago,

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Speaker 2: we used to have coyotes in Lancaster and they used to.

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Speaker 2: They were a natural predator for deer, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know where they went, but they're all gone.

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Speaker 3: On multiple days this within the last three weeks. Multiple days,

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Speaker 3: I've had double digit deer in my yard. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: So I gotta be I gotta be deer, I gotta

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Speaker 2: what was that?

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Speaker 3: Is that legal?

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Speaker 2: It is in my yard. So I just get him.

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Speaker 2: that would just make her dumber. But my wife went

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Speaker 2: full Italian again yesterday.

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Speaker 3: What'd she do?

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Speaker 2: She went running out of the back of the house

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Speaker 2: with pots and pants banging. I'm yelling at the deer

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Speaker 2: life I live now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go. I got something for you though,

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the life you live, those of you were

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Speaker 3: wondering twenty years ago. Tomorrow, our good friend Chris brown

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Speaker 3: got hand his employment with the Buffalo. But I gotta

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Speaker 3: give for those of you who are listening on radio,

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Speaker 2: Right, this is thank you.

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Speaker 3: We have a gift for Brownie. And tomorrow is his

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Speaker 3: twentieth anniversary of being a Bill's employee.

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Speaker 2: Like, good time, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: That was very nice.

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Speaker 2: He's been covering necessary but.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously been covering the bills since the late fifties,

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Speaker 2: We well, that's very nice. Thank you everyone that was

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Speaker 2: involved in that. I appreciate that. Pull it out. Go ahead, okay,

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Speaker 2: people want to people want to see what happens here. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at that. It's a game ball marking twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Well, you started covering the team in ninety seven, so

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Speaker 2: old audio files and on one of my quote unquote

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Speaker 2: there's an interview of Steve Tasker with Chris Brown. It's

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Speaker 2: dated like nineteen ninety six. Oh man, I was like

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's funny. Well, Brownie though, congratulations, Well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate sure.

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Speaker 3: You are the voice of the Buffalo Bills. You're the

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Speaker 3: part of the crew that helps everybody make the bills

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Speaker 2: football looks great. These are cool all you like you're

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Speaker 2: very fortunate and very grateful. So thank you everybody. That

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Speaker 2: do a formal presentage a like three more than I

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Speaker 2: ripcord before that, Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, but congratulations, pretty

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Speaker 2: We're feeling incredibly grateful and blessed and savoring these early moments.

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Speaker 2: So Josh is a girl, Dad, Steve, which we are

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Speaker 2: Right, no names.

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Speaker 2: That'll be the second reveal. Perhaps that's right. I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this day and age of betting in the NFL, there

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Speaker 2: are lines on baby names. Yeah, or baby Allen. What

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, congratulations to Josh and and Hayley.

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Speaker 3: and that's tremendous. Great to hear.

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Speaker 2: And that's great now the Allan party of three, now,

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Speaker 2: sixth seasons. So that's really cool. I'm how much Bill's

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Speaker 2: Will she wear anything else but red, white, and blue?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be the requisite amount of you know, pink,

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Speaker 2: and you can get all that with Bill's stuff on. Well,

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Speaker 3: You cannot give Josh and Haley a gift that does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but really happy for them glad everything's doing well

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Speaker 2: that as well. Let's go That'll be Reveal number two.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Josh and Hated.

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Speaker 2: That's all grats to them, obviously. Let's go around the

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Speaker 3: He's noted here about three hundred and sixteen million.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I will tell you too, think about the

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Speaker 2: True, you know, they're not doing it for.

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Speaker 2: I just find it amazing that there is one end

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Speaker 3: Good for you, man. Yeah, well that's.

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Speaker 3: It's both ends of America, right, I mean the advertising

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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs are signing free agent cornerback Kaye Elam.

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Speaker 3: They'll be all right. I'm not losing sleep.

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Speaker 2: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed the importance of the Chicago

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Speaker 2: in either Hammond, Indiana, or Arlington Heights, Illinois, where they

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it'd be like the It's like the Jets

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Speaker 3: It's it's filthy politics?

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Speaker 2: You was the right thing in say in Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Fair. You can talk about this all you want, but

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Indiana, all thirty two NFL teams send scouts

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Speaker 3: Indiana won the national championship in football. Yep, pretty remarkable, right,

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Speaker 2: they were just militaristic precision with that offense. It was

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00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: impressive to watch. I mean it looked a lot like

439
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: the old Brady offense up in New England, like, oh

440
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: we need we got a third and six, Okay, Like

441
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: we'll just get it. Welker will get open, you know,

442
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: Edelman will get open, bing bang boom, you know, first

443
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 2: down here we go drive continue. Yes, that's what they

444
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: looked like.

445
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Speaker 3: It was impressive. And both of those receivers you mentioned

446
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: Cooper and surrat that they're pro prospects. I mean, it

447
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: had some good players, no question about. It was fantastic.

448
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: And I heard from the from the combine, and I

449
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: wasn't there for the quarterback end of the of the combine,

450
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: but afterwards you talk to people. He talked to the

451
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: buzz around that was going around Indianapolis about the quarterbacks

452
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: and all of that and about the interview process, and

453
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 3: everybody was saying everything they always say about all these

454
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: draft picks, and every draft pick, and I mean every

455
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: single draft pick you'll ever come across. There will be

456
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: both sides of the coins like, yeah, he's all this,

457
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: he said, well this is a little bit now, or that.

458
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: None of that with Mendoza, everything that came out of

459
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: anybody's mouth, and then they commented on it and said,

460
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 3: nobody's got a bad thing to say. There's no downside

461
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: to this guy. And that's not to say like it's

462
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: he's a shoe in can't miss prospect or anything like that.

463
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: But the guy, his credentials, the way he works out,

464
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: the way he interviews, it's all off the charts. He's

465
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 3: gonna step up in class the role. Yeah, he's gonna

466
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: step up in class, and he'll be put under some

467
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: serious pressure with that organization in Vegas. But you'd be

468
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: hard pressed to find somebody that seems more prepared than

469
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: he does.

470
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: And I was a little disappointed to see because he

471
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: grew up in Miami, which kind of made the National

472
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: title game so cool because he got to go back

473
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: to his hometown and win a national title against Miami.

474
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: But I guess he was born in Boston and in

475
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: his early years actually watched Brady play. And now Brady,

476
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: who's a minority owner of the Raiders, is going to

477
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: draft this guy.

478
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: So I'll say it again. We talked about it earlier

479
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 3: in the show. Kudos to the Raiders for picking up

480
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. That seems to me like the absolute perfect fit.

481
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: To have a guy who understands his role, who's gonna

482
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: give it everything he's got on every in every facet

483
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: of a backup quarterback. He's gonna try his best to

484
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: make Mendoza ready to play. He's gonna be ready to

485
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: play himself and do whatever he can do. He's gonna

486
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: show Mendoza and mentor him how a pro works and

487
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: how Kirk Cousins has done it for his career. It's

488
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: gonna have Brady in the building as well. I mean

489
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: this is it is set up for Mendoza to be

490
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 3: nurtured in a way as fast or as slow as

491
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: they want to go. Mm hmm. Now, the only downside

492
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: of it, he said, the roster around him, which wasn't

493
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: very good last year. He got Max Crosby. He's back.

494
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Brock Bowers is maybe the best tight end in football.

495
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: So they got some pieces. But you know, they've got

496
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: work to do. Brand new head coach. Yep, they got

497
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: some culture stuff to get through. So it's it's really

498
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: gonna The Raiders have become a very interesting team this offseason.

499
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: I'm it's gonna be interesting to see him put And

500
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: not to mention the division that you mentioned, it's tough. Yeah,

501
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: they're rivaling the Bills for their schedule. Buffalo's gonna have

502
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: a really rough schedule this year. I mean it's a gauntlet,

503
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: so it's not even a first place schedule this year. Yeah,

504
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: it's amazing.

505
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: Obl Friday Fan mail bag is open a day early

506
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: because we don't have a show tomorrow, so we open

507
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: the mail bag a day early. Any questions you have

508
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: on the Bills, free agency, the draft, the league at large,

509
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: you fire away at us at one Bills Live on

510
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: Twitter and we'll answer your questions here through the course

511
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: of the show. We do want to remind you we

512
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: also bumped up our weekly visit leading up to the

513
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: draft with senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell up

514
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: to today as well. Going to catch up with him

515
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: in the second hour of the show as we go

516
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: over edge rushers. So we're picking a position group each week.

517
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: Last week was wide receivers, this year is this week

518
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: is edge rushers. So we'll do that with Greg in

519
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: our number two of the show about a half hour

520
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: away from now, but we take a break. When we

521
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: come back, we'll start answering those questions in the mailbag

522
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. All right, back here on

523
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

524
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: We're having differences of opinion on draft picks in the break.

525
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: Sure, this is what the debating leading up to the

526
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: draft is all about, Steve, feel free to disagree. Opinions.

527
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: Yes, opinions are what they are.

528
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, we know the saying and there you go. Yeah,

529
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about different prospects and can't watch enough people.

530
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: There's an endless stream of prospects. Like yeah, I've said

531
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: this before. I try to have a working knowledge of

532
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty of them by the time

533
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: we get to the draft, and that's a chore. Like

534
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: we don't have the eight to ten month run up

535
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: that NFL clubs do and whatever the online draft gurus do,

536
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: because they're watching tape in August.

537
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: Some of these and the best ones, they've got a

538
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: twenty four month run up because they do it for

539
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: their junior and senior year, right, and there's more guys

540
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: staying in school now because they're making money doing it.

541
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: We don't have time for that.

542
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: Nobody got time for that.

543
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: We got we're busy with others man like got our

544
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 2: own the Bills season and whatever. So we do our

545
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: best to jam and cram. At least.

546
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Why we have Greg Kelson, Greg Coselle Cosell on so

547
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: you'll straighten out.

548
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: He'll join us in the second hour of the show.

549
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna go over edge rushing prospects with him, knowing

550
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: the Bills could probably use a speed presence off the

551
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: edge to their pass rush. But we're going to dive

552
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: into the mail bag here because we're doing the mail

553
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: bag a day early as well, since we are off

554
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: for good Friday tomorrow. Harold leads us off today and says,

555
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: what is the status on Epanessa and Milano. It's crickets

556
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: right now. Epanessa had a deal in place to sign

557
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: with the Cleveland You probably heard that that deal went

558
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: up in smoke. The team doctor for the Browns wasn't

559
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: thrilled with some of the things he saw with the

560
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: medical exam and the physical on Epinesa's so the deal

561
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: got torn up and Epinesa remains a free agent. Same

562
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: goes for Matt Milano, and I would I would venture

563
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: to guess that these are two players who find a

564
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: home in the league after the draft. They are tailor

565
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 2: made to be post draft signings, presumably on a one

566
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: year deal, whether it's here or somewhere else. I would

567
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: tend to think if you asked me to pick which

568
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: one could be more likely to return, I would say

569
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: Milano despite the injury history, because I don't know that

570
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: aj Epiness's skill set fits the role of stand up

571
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: outside linebacker.

572
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: He'd have to move down to a defense, would have

573
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: to add.

574
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: Weight, and because he's been playing at like two fifty

575
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: five two sixty.

576
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: They did that in college though that's where he yes,

577
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: he did kind so I mean they may be talking,

578
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: but they're not talking to him now. I mean, they

579
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: might be talking to him now, but certainly they were

580
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: going to step in away of his Cleveland deal, and

581
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: they may have their own medical issues.

582
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: With him, right. Yeah. We don't know what those are,

583
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: but we saw what was reported coming out of Cleveland

584
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: last week. Joe Uh in the Mailbag asks Steve, do

585
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: you remember having lunch at Cohle's with mister Shatzel, his

586
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: pal Neil aka Cahuna, and your old buddy Don Cricky.

587
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I came in after lunch and sat at the bar

588
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: and was introduced by mister Shatzel to you and Don

589
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: and laughed for about a half hour at the stories

590
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: you and Don.

591
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: Told Don Cricky.

592
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: You worked with Don?

593
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I did more games with Don than anybody else,

594
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: anybody else I the Don's an Amherst guy who went

595
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: on to be an absolutely iconic play by play voice.

596
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: Oh and gold and Pipes.

597
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Yes he is. He was tremendous. He taught me a

598
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: ton about the broadcast industry. We spent a lot of

599
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: great times together on the road. Love the guy. Uh

600
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: consider him a friend. He is. He really is one

601
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: of the all time great play by play by play voices.

602
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: He did NFL games in five decades. He was so

603
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: young coming out. I went Notre Dame. He came out

604
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: of Notre Dame. Was so started so young because of

605
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: his voice. He called the Tom Dempsey sixty three yard

606
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: field goal in New Orleans on radio as a national

607
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: radio broadcast. I'm not sure who it was, but he

608
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: called that and then ended up calling games with me

609
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: in the two thousands. He was just a phenomenal dude.

610
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: Loved Don Cricky and yeah, so we go with Dodd's

611
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: a Buffalo guy. So I didn't know anything about it,

612
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: and Jog was we gotta go to we gotta go

613
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: into Coles and so we go into I was like, who,

614
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: what's that? I didn't even know what it was.

615
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: So we go in.

616
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: Man, Now it's like a staple. Coles was great. Now

617
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: Coles is great. It's a purely Buffalo place. We had

618
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: a blast and the Kahuna was there. Don's buddy, so

619
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: uh yes, I do remember that. Uh. Don kriky Ish

620
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: brings back some great memories for me.

621
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh it was for the days.

622
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: Crickmeister capital d his.

623
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: You you you can close as soon as you hear

624
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: his voice, you know, yeah, it's it's not only a

625
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: very commanding and and authoritative, authoritative voice, Yes, it just

626
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: has a commanding presence to it. And so as soon

627
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: as you hear it, you know who it is. He

628
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: is the first.

629
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: He's the first guy we go out to dinner in

630
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: you name the NFL city. It's the first time I

631
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: ever saw this happen. Hasn't happened that many times in

632
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: my life. We were sitting at dinner and Don saw

633
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: were telling stories and you know, having you know, friends

634
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: having dinner, and you see somebody, uh at the next

635
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: table over were talking and doncie I was talking about

636
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: and you see a person who can't see our table

637
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: sit up straight and turn around because they they recognized

638
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: Don's voice. They turn around and they people are walking

639
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: up to him like excuse me. Uh, they're asking him.

640
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

641
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: He was the voice. He was the spokesperson for American

642
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: Airlines decades ago, and he because of that associations, these

643
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: things were decades ago, things were way different. He had

644
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: stories about the airline industry that were unrepeatable. Uh. It

645
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: was amazing because you know how everything was like it

646
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: was a wild West back then just an amazing conversationalist.

647
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: Is what I take nicknamed is the voice of God.

648
00:34:52,719 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: V og command, total command command, just unbelievable. And if

649
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: like Brownie, Brownie's like your best friend, he's calling the

650
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: games right. And dick Enberg, remember you picture dick Enberg.

651
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: You'd picture of dick Enberg in a cardigan sweater doing

652
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: the games, you know, and Don Cricket during Don Crickey,

653
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: you'd vision when you he's talking, he's got a tuxedo on.

654
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: That guy was buttoned up right. That was the way

655
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: he came across. Okay, just a total pro. Total pro.

656
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: Can't say enough good things about.

657
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Next question in the mail bag comes from Greg, who says,

658
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: what team do you think we will play in our

659
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: home opener? So, Steve, I'm gonna read off the eight

660
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: home game opponents and this is in no particular order,

661
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: and you and I will surmise who we think could

662
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: be the home opener for the Bills. Here we go, obviously, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Chiefs, Chargers, Bears, Lions, Ravens.

663
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: I am going to say the Ravens are out because

664
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Speaker 2: they were the home opener last year. Yeah, but you

665
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: know that was a baring I know, I think it's

666
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: out just because it was the opener last year. I

667
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: think there's a very good chance that the opener, and

668
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to put my money on this one, is

669
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots defending AFC Champs Division rivalry. They've had Monday

670
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: night games to lead the season off before together, so

671
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: I think it's Patriots. That's that's going to be. My guess.

672
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: Patriots are the homeown good guess.

673
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: You're probably wrong because you have a better answer, don't you.

674
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: I think I think it's going to be I think

675
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: it will probably be the Chicago.

676
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Really the loss Conference.

677
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Game because of the market size of Chicago. Okay, the

678
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: interest level Cab Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, Josh Allen, and

679
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: you Joe Brady.

680
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: So you're so if all of that is telling me

681
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: you think that's going to be a primetime home opener

682
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: based on the reasons, you're absolutely Okay.

683
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: I think that's a. I think it's a It's not Thursday,

684
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be Sunday night, Monday night game on

685
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: opening weekend.

686
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I may have.

687
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: I may have.

688
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: What were the bills last year? Saturday Sunday Night were

689
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Sunday night.

690
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were the Sunday night game. The next week

691
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: there was a game Sunday night. I'm I could be wrong,

692
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm maybe I'm inflating the expectations for the Bills

693
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: or the national opinion about John.

694
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest. Knowing Steve's lack of respect

695
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: for the Bears and Lions organizations, I am stunned.

696
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: I'm I'm self aware enough to know that I'm on

697
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: an island and I say that about the Detroit Lions

698
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: and the Chicago Bears, but I know that there's a

699
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: lot of interest in Caleb Williams and the Bears and

700
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: how they did last year. I won't debate that years

701
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: with the league knowing what I know and not admitting it.

702
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: The Bears are gonna light it on fire, and they

703
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: want the Bears and the interest to be there when

704
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: they play on a national game rather than wait till

705
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: Week thirteen. And they're three and.

706
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: Ten, okay, and and and there's the there's the type

707
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: of love and respect I came to expect from Steve Tasker.

708
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: But the same thing with the same thing Withrops.

709
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna they want the Bears while they while

710
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: the interest is or the expectations are high.

711
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: With the Bears, I'm trying to remember who the heck

712
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: won the NFC North last year?

713
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: Was it?

714
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: It was? It was they're gonna be playing a first

715
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: place schedule.

716
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: It was Chicago.

717
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have the AFC East with the Bills

718
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: and the Patriots, so they got to play those two teams.

719
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 3: So right, yeah, yeah, that's an interesting Yeah, I'll double

720
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: check it, but yeah, it's chicag I think the yeah there,

721
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: it is absolutely Chicago. Remember, Yeah, everybody else in the

722
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: NFC North was nine and seven or nine and eight,

723
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: and Bears were eleven and six. So yeah, that'll change,

724
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: trust me, Brown.

725
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you're going Bears, I'm going Patriots.

726
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll they'll take a year off, they'll go

727
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: four and thirteen and use the ugly politics of Chicago

728
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: and Illinois and the stadium and the stadium conversation. They'll say, hey,

729
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: it was it wasn't our fault, it was the yeah.

730
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: The stadium mess yes, exactly, Okay, all right, I'll accept that.

731
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: I think it's I want to put those on the

732
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: White fort it's pretty good. Uh yeah, it turns out.

733
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: We'll find out.

734
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: I'll admit next month the New England game for you,

735
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: because they do to put the division games front and back,

736
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, at the end in the beginning, and I

737
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: think we.

738
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Speaker 2: Have to remember that, you know, the Patriots are the

739
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: defending AFC champions. They're going to be highlighted early in

740
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: the season and they'll be in prime time somewhere like

741
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: them or not. Yeah, And I wouldn't even nail it

742
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: down that the Bills home opener is Week one. Now

743
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 2: I would hope it is, knowing that it's.

744
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: The new stadium and everything, right, Yeah, I think probably

745
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: it will be, yes, probably, not definitely, probably, and yes,

746
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: I would say so. And it's going to be a

747
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: Sunday night money, it's going to be a Sunday night,

748
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: Monday night game probably exactly. So it's going to be

749
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: that they want a big market team in there, which

750
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: means Chicago Kansas City homes isn't going to be ready.

751
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: No, no.

752
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: I So as a matter of fact, that was if

753
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: it was a year, that's the game.

754
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: You know, that was actually discussed at the owners meetings.

755
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: I guess Clark Hunt, in an interview even said I

756
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: don't think we're going to be in primetime week one,

757
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: and it's largely connected to Patrick Mahomes' readiness for the

758
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: start of the regular season, and it looks like it's

759
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: going to be a close call as to whether he

760
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: is or not. So you don't want the Chiefs in

761
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: primetime with Justin Fields. That's a whole different kind of attraction.

762
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Jets aren't there. Well, yeah, it's not

763
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: gonna be the Jets or Miami either because those two

764
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: teams are in the middle of a you know, I mean,

765
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: they're down to the studs in that house, right, so

766
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: they've already gutted it. So the Chargers now come on

767
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Detroit and Baltimore. Baltimore has some allure, but you're like

768
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: you said, they would just be a repeat of the

769
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: year before, and that's the stories and I took him out.

770
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: That's a storyline too. If you're gonna come back, they'll

771
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: play that game in the lead up to the opener hard.

772
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: And you know, plus two new head coaches is yeah,

773
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: Brady and Mintter. So yeah, there's sins an enticing storyline that.

774
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: Could be the one. But I'm I'm gonna go with

775
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: Chicago War just because it's the number two or three

776
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: television market in the country and and they'll want big

777
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: eyeballs on it.

778
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your questions answered

779
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: in the mailbag when we return, and we got Greg

780
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Cosel coming up in an hour number two here on

781
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. All right back

782
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on

783
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: a Thursday, which, as a reminder, is a getaway day

784
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: for us. We are off tomorrow for a good Friday

785
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: leading into the Easter holiday, which looks like it's gonna

786
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: be pretty dang soggy for Easter egg hunts. You bring

787
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: your rain boots and your rain coats if you've got

788
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: an outdoor Easter egg hunt, because it's going to be

789
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: a soggy one. But we do want to get back

790
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: to the obl fan mail bag, which we're also doing

791
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: a day early, knowing we're off tomorrow. And the next

792
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: question comes from Jacob who asks, I asked yesterday about

793
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: drafting best available in round one, even if it wasn't

794
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: a position of need, and you guys, poop poot it.

795
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: My counterpoints, our top pick really has a big impact,

796
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: and you're not drafting a player for first year impact,

797
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: it's for five years of cost control. You want to

798
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: get the best available.

799
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: Don't do we poop pooh that.

800
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Yesterday, I don't know one of us said something wrong.

801
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: Apparently he was big on best available. I think while

802
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that Jacob says are true,

803
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: I think the one part of the equation that you

804
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: also have to consider is where this team is in

805
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: its BUILDEAH and this team probably feels they need a

806
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: few you difference making pieces on defense and that can

807
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: potentially put them over the top, because, as Steve says,

808
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: they're right there every single year for the last seven

809
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: and if there's one thing that they don't have on

810
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, it's like a superstar

811
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: talent to put them over the top. I don't know

812
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: that they're gonna be able to get that at twenty six,

813
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: which which is why I think Jacob is saying just

814
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: take best player available to get that. Yeah, I get it,

815
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: but I think it's very clear what the team needs

816
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, and it's speed.

817
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: So if you want to take the best player available

818
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: that also has speed, I can get behind that, but

819
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm staying on my edge Rusher soapbox. If there is

820
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: anyone of any value that fits anywhere near twenty six,

821
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 2: and the guy can blow your doors off with speed,

822
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: please take him.

823
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm down with the best available Stratchy.

824
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know whether I poop.

825
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: Maybe we spoke out. Maybe I'm all about taking the

826
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: best player available. Your roster gets better theoretically. I mean

827
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: maybe in the fifth, sixth, seventh round the guy has

828
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: a it doesn't have the measurables to be a bigger impact,

829
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: even if he's playing his best and he is the

830
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: best guy left. But there should be there's always in

831
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: every round, there's going to be athletes that are pro

832
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: level guys, and if you can get the best one

833
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: of those, he's got a chance. So I'm yeah, I'm

834
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm all about taking the best player available. And I

835
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: know too that this roster still has holes in it,

836
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: particularly on the defensive side.

837
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: I think I think why we were accused of pooh

838
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: pooing it because it's it's starting to repopulate in my brain.

839
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: I think we were dismissing like interior old lineman at

840
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: twenty six because they just signed two veteran offensive linemen

841
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: who are starting caliber, and one may compete for a

842
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: starting job at the other is probably a backup behind

843
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern. And we're thinking, well, you're not taking an

844
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: interior line twenty six overall, even if he is the

845
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: best guy on the board, because you're flush with not

846
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: only starting caliber talent, but depth as well behind them, right,

847
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: so why not fill another hole and if the value

848
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: doesn't match, get the heck out of there are twenty

849
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: six and trade back. Yeah, I'm uh, yeah, you're big

850
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: on trading back.

851
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: I am. I'm tell you know. You can watch the

852
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: podcast and builds by the numbers this week. I'm it's

853
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: if you're drafting late in the first round, my premise

854
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: is it's always best to me to grab more picks

855
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: and get out of the first round. The problem is

856
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: you can't just wave your magic wand and do it.

857
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: You got to have somebody else say, okay, we'll move,

858
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: we'll chance. We actually think there is a guy in

859
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: the first round that we need to get, and most

860
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: of the teams who are worth their salt think just

861
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: like you do. Like I don't know, I don't want

862
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: to I don't need you know, the first round guy, right,

863
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: So I don't need another guide that is second round

864
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: talent or a third round talent that I got to

865
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: take in the first round. And I'm not saying that

866
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: the Bills couldn't get a great player at twenty sixth

867
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: overall in the first round. But if you can get

868
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: a player comparable in the second round plus a third

869
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: round pick, yeah you gotta. I think you gotta do it.

870
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: And with respect to cost control, Jacob, which you also

871
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: mentioned in your question, I think that only applies to

872
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: premium positions, those being quarterback, pass rusher, left tackle, corner,

873
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: and wide receiver. You want cost control largely at those

874
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: positions only why because they're expensive average annual salary costs.

875
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: And if you're moving back into the late first round

876
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: because you want that cost control, it's because you're taking

877
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: somebody typically at a premium position the ones I listed,

878
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: because those are the most expensive second contracts in the leak.

879
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: You're paying corners, you know, twenty something million a year.

880
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: You're paying receivers over thirty million a year that on

881
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: their second contracts if they hit, and you're paying quarterbacks

882
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: fifty five million a year. So if you're doing that

883
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: for cost control, it's because you're taking somebody at a

884
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: premium position more often than not. Now, I'm going to

885
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: wait for Jacob's next tweet, which is going to be well,

886
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: guards are making almost thirty million, now what about them?

887
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: One guard is maybe, yeah, maybe you could roll Guard

888
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: into that in the not too distant future, But I

889
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: still don't think it applies in the same way as

890
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: some of those other positions do. But that's the main

891
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: purpose of cost control, to keep costs down for an

892
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: extra year at a premium position. We got to take

893
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: a break here because our number two, as promised, is

894
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: going to begin with our good friend Greg Coseel, senior

895
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: producer from NFL Films. The next position group in the

896
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: draft pool, we address Edge Rusher, a very distinct possibility

897
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: at pick twenty six. We'll go over a hand full

898
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: of prospects in the draft class with Greg. Next here

899
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: on one Bill's.

900
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: Live Look you Boys were Today.

901
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: He is a feast for the Capitol Fie.

902
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: The cook is in the kitchen, looks.

903
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: Down the sideline. He's got kickad for a twenty three

904
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: yard touchdown and it's intercepted. Jumping up to the air,

905
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: it's bad for me.

906
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: These one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

907
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a

908
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Thursday and a day early, with our good friend Greg Hosel,

909
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: senior producer from NFL Film. Since we are not on

910
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: the air tomorrow all for good Friday here on Easter

911
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 2: weekend coming up, so we figured we'd better get Greg

912
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: in here before the week was out, conding up to

913
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 2: adjustice schedule. And here we are and Greg. The general

914
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: consensus is edge rusher might be the deepest position in

915
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: the draft. It might not be long on blue chip

916
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: edge rushing talent, but there are guys that can help teams,

917
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: maybe as late as the fourth round in the opinion

918
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: of some. We're gonna start with, you know, some guys

919
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: that could be deemed as fits for the bills, Greg,

920
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: and I'm going to just start you right off with

921
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: the Texas A and m Kit Casius Howell, who you

922
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: know falls into that annual debate about arm length. I

923
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: don't I don't have a problem with it, watching after

924
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: watching his tape. I mean, this guy's got a nice

925
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: repertoire of pass rush moves, and he's got production and

926
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: anybody who's the SEC defensive Player of the Year. Makes

927
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: the grade for me.

928
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny. I watched him last summer,

929
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: and remember that Texas A and M had all these

930
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: guys on their D line coming out, including Shamar Stewart

931
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: who went in the first round to Cincinnati, and they

932
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: had two other guys as well. And I remember coming

933
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: away from watching the tape last summer thinking to myself,

934
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the guy that stood out the most to me was

935
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: Casius Howell. You know you're talking about a pass rusher

936
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: with dynamic traits. I mean, he's got an explosive first step.

937
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: One thing that he can absolutely do is he can

938
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: bend so he can flatten his rush path and burst

939
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: to the quarterback at the top of the arc. So

940
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: he's a very very explosive athlete. This whole arm length

941
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: issue at every position. To be honest, guys, I really

942
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: don't know where to go with that. I mean, I'm

943
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: not smart enough and I say that honestly to know

944
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: exactly what that means, because you hear so many different

945
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: points of view from really smart people, coaches, former players

946
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: who played the same position. So I'm not sure exactly

947
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: what to make of it. But other than the fact

948
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: that this guy is a very, very explosive athlete who

949
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: clearly knows how to rush the quarterback.

950
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's really the thing when you start

951
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: getting into the nuances of these positions, Greg, you know,

952
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: they measure everything the arm length, speed, the vertical and

953
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: all of that, and everybody's package is a little different

954
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 3: that they bring to the table. Yeah, And the question

955
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: is will they make the next step and how good

956
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: will they be when they get there? Is there a

957
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: definitive way to say this guy's physical traits in this

958
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: case is arms aren't good enough?

959
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: You know.

960
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: The one thing that I try to learn from everybody

961
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: over the years, you know, whether it's coaches, whether it's

962
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: former players. You know, I've been fortunate, for instance, to

963
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: go to the O Line Masterminds event every year that

964
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Duke Manni whether does a great job with down in Texas,

965
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: and in getting to speak to NFL present day offensive

966
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: linemen and former offensive linemen, some who are Hall of famers.

967
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: The one thing that I constantly hear guys is that

968
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: if you can't win with some kind of power, and

969
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: power can be defined differently, and we can talk about that,

970
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: but if you don't have some kind of power element

971
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: to your game as a pass rusher, it's hard to

972
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: really be a great pass rusher in the NFL. Now

973
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: power people might think of powers running through a guy

974
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily power. Sure, it's great, you know, if

975
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: you can get inside a guy's chest and drive him

976
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: back into the pocket. There's not a ton of guys

977
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: that can just do that naturally. But it's being able

978
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: to initiate contact and then play off that contact. And

979
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: you can do that a lot with technique, with hand usage.

980
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: So I think that's something that I look for when

981
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: I watch tape. Can a pass rusher coming from the

982
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: edge obviously we're talking about now, can he play off

983
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: contact and get whether inside an offensive tackle and work

984
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: underneath him, or clear the arc and beat him on

985
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: the high side. So, but you need some kind of

986
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: physical element to be able to rush the quarterback at

987
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: the NFL level.

988
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not to dwell on howl. But I would

989
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: just tend to think that his arm length would become

990
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: more of a factor in terms of what he is

991
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: as an edge setter in the run front. YEP, that's

992
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: where his arm length and keeping tackles off of him

993
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: is probably going to come into play more than on

994
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: his pass. But let's go on to another guy, a

995
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: guy that I really liked. And if you need somebody

996
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: to bring juice off the edge in our Mason Thomas.

997
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's another guy that I did last summer as well.

998
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: And you know it's funny because he was not talked about.

999
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Some of these guys weren't talked about it all last

1000
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: year until they then play this year. And I did

1001
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: him last summer, and boy, I thought that another guy

1002
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: that has explosive burst off the ball, vertical quickness immediately

1003
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: to challenge the high side. And the reason challenging the

1004
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: high side is so important, and Steve, you know this

1005
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: is you can get offensive tackles to overset, meaning they

1006
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: turn their entire body to the sideline. And what that

1007
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: does is it opens up those counter moves inside. So

1008
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: you're dealing. You deal with that when you have guys

1009
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: that can immediately challenge the high side. And then he

1010
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: has the flexibility again, another guy that can flatten his

1011
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: rush path. Now even though he's only two forty one,

1012
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: that's what he was at the combine. On film, there

1013
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: are some flashes, some really good snaps shots of speed

1014
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: to power from wide nine alignments. And the reason it's

1015
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: important to mention the wide nine is because then he

1016
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: can generate velocity. Because these guys who don't weigh a lot,

1017
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: they don't work as well in terms of power in

1018
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: sort of the shorter spaces. They need to generate velocity.

1019
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: They need a runway. That's the term we often use.

1020
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: They need a runway to generate their power. But he

1021
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: has been able to do that. And he's another guy

1022
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: that again, not a guy that weighs two sixty two

1023
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: sixty five, a lesser weight guy, but a guy that's

1024
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: a really good edge pass rusher.

1025
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: All right, then let's move on down the list. Like TJ.

1026
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 3: Parker from Clemson.

1027
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, TJ. Parker was a guy that he was a big,

1028
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: big time recruit coming out. He's another guy now he

1029
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: weighs more. He's a little different kind of guy. I

1030
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: mean TJ. Parker, I think weighs over two sixty if

1031
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: memory serves me correctly, I think it was two sixty three.

1032
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: I think at the combine, and you know, he's he's

1033
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily a guy that is truly explosive in the

1034
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: way we think of Howell and our Mason Thomas. But

1035
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: I think that you're dealing with a guy that had

1036
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: a nuanced feel for using his hands. He knew how

1037
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: to break down the technique of offensive tackles. He could

1038
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: win both to the high side and he can redirect

1039
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: underneath to the low side. He's what always stood out

1040
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: to me watching him was his aggressive hand usage. He

1041
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: knew how to attack the hands of offensive tackles, both

1042
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: proactively and then reactively. When offensive tackles would reset their

1043
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: hands to try to maintain control of the rep he

1044
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: knew how to then counter that, so he got offensive

1045
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: tackles off balance and he for instance, did a very

1046
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: good job of playing off contact. That to me was

1047
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: one of the strengths of his game.

1048
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: And he was mostly a hand on the ground guy.

1049
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yeah, he's I mean he's probably And again

1050
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Leonard, is he is their base front going to be?

1051
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Is that what the basefront's going to be?

1052
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: We believe, We think so unless the personnel precludes it, right,

1053
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean that may go a little bit of hybrid

1054
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: and work it around until they figure it out. But yes,

1055
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 3: so it's gonna be a five to me.

1056
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: To me, and maybe he's seen differently. I think he

1057
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 1: could be a stand up outside linebacker in a base front,

1058
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: but I think he's to me more of a four

1059
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: to three d n But you know, again, different people

1060
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: see that differently. That doesn't mean I'm right, but I

1061
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: see him more as a four to three d end Uh.

1062
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: A guy that probably isn't mentioned quite as much because

1063
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: he'll probably be taking a little bit later is Derek

1064
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: Moore out of Michigan. Yeah, six four, two fifty five. Like,

1065
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that he has all the elite physical

1066
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: traits that would get him drafted higher, but there's there's

1067
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: some good film from.

1068
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: Him, really good film. Now, he's a guy that his

1069
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: foundation is strength and power, and he's got really good

1070
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: hand usage, and he's got pretty long arms, not ridiculously long,

1071
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: but he knows how to deploy his arm length to

1072
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: his advantage both in the run game as well. By

1073
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: the way Brown he so he's not just an edge

1074
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but speed to power was his foundation as

1075
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: a rusher. He had precise and strong hand placement. I'm

1076
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: glad you mentioned him because he's a player for two

1077
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: years that I really liked. He's six', four he's two fifty.

1078
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: FIVE i Like Derek, moore you, know obviously played at

1079
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: a big time, program played there for you, KNOW i

1080
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: mean in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty, five he

1081
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: was basically a. STARTER i just think he's a really solid.

1082
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Prospect you, KNOW i never know where guys are gonna.

1083
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: Go could he, go you, know in day two and

1084
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: in round? Three maybe does he get to you, KNOW

1085
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: d day? Three in round? FOUR i don't know the

1086
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: answer to, that BUT i think he's A he's a

1087
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: very good. Prospect got an incredible wingspan. Too.

1088
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah he strikes me as one of those classic high

1089
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: floor players who's going to come in and help you right.

1090
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Away his ceiling might not be as high as some

1091
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: of those elite physical trade, guys but you're gonna get

1092
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: a solid player.

1093
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: There, Yeah and that's a look we all know when

1094
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: guys get drafted, later with few, exceptions that's the. Case

1095
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: you're you know you're Getting you're looking for guys that

1096
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: are just really solid football players that can. Contribute you,

1097
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: know you draft a guy in round three year round, four,

1098
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: sure would you love them to be a starter and

1099
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: play sixty snaps on? Defense you, Would but if they

1100
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: can play twenty five or thirty snaps and really contribute

1101
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: in specific. Packages you, know that's really what kind of

1102
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: a third or fourth round pick normally.

1103
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: Is and this is a kind of a draft. Phenomenon

1104
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: you get down into this and you get down to

1105
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: guys a guy Like Zion young out Of, missouri who

1106
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: he's not at the top of this defensive end, list

1107
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: but he's a guy with you know's a guy six,

1108
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: six two hundred and sixty, pounds he's got these physical.

1109
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: Tools what about a guy Like Zion young coming out Of.

1110
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Missouri, Yeah, now to me, again this IS i saw his.

1111
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: TAPE i see him as a true four to three

1112
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: prototypical d END i don't think he's an outside backer

1113
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: in a in a five to two. Front you, know

1114
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: he played. Long he has a really long, wingspan AND

1115
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: i thought he used that. Effectively there's a physical element

1116
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: to his play that immediately stood. Out you, know his

1117
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: game's built on power and, physicality blocked deconstruction in the run,

1118
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: game speed to power and as a pass, rusher that

1119
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: to me is who he. Is there were times he

1120
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: lined up, inside you, know as a as a pass

1121
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: rusher in those pure pass or third down. SITUATIONS i

1122
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: watched him Against alabama when he had a really good

1123
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: matchup against their left Tackle Caden, proctor and it was

1124
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: a good. Matchup there were there were snaps where he

1125
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 1: got shut down By, procter and there were snaps where

1126
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: his arm extension and leg drive drove Back proctor into the.

1127
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Pocket so you, know he's played against really good. Competition

1128
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: he's not a true pass, rusher you. Know it's so

1129
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: if you draft him AND i have no idea where he'll,

1130
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: go you see his name in the first round On.

1131
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Max he's not the kind of guy you draft and

1132
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get fifteen. Sacks he's not that.

1133
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 3: Guy.

1134
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right another guy who is getting a little bit

1135
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: more attention late in the draft, period at least from draft,

1136
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: gurus is The Central florida Kid Malachi. Lawrence i've seen

1137
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: Like i've seen people knock him because they say he's

1138
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: a little stiff in the, Hips but twenty seven and

1139
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: a half sacks in the last three, seasons that's nothing

1140
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: to sneeze.

1141
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: At.

1142
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: No, no he's he's a fun guy to. Watch he's

1143
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: got good, length really long, wingspan good. ATHLETE i, mean

1144
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: he had a forty inch vertical at two hundred and

1145
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: fifty three. Pounds he's he's got some knock back power

1146
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: in his, hands in his, arms he showed the ability to.

1147
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: Redirect he's had a quick inside. COUNTER i thought he

1148
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: used his arm length really proactively to create separation as a,

1149
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: rusher so he could then play off that content. Act

1150
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: there were times he dropped into his own, coverage even

1151
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: matched up to tight ends in man, Coverage so you,

1152
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: know he could be a with his, length he could

1153
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: be a five to two outside. BACKER i liked, him you.

1154
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: KNOW i came away and then obviously The bills didn't

1155
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: draft this. Player but one player who he kind of

1156
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: reminded me of from a year ago Was Nick, scourton

1157
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: who WAS i think a first round pick For carolina

1158
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: and ended up having a pretty good season as a.

1159
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: ROOKIE i thought there were some similarities in their.

1160
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: Tape lawrence's motor is like that's the thing THAT i

1161
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: noticed the, Most like he's going all out every play you.

1162
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: Watch, YEAH i liked. Him he was a guy UNTIL

1163
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: i went to the. Combine to be honest with you,

1164
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: GUYS i knew nothing about him and talked to a

1165
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: bunch of people there AND i kept hearing his, name

1166
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: so you, know of COURSE i made it a point

1167
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: to watch, him AND i liked WHAT i saw on.

1168
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: Tape, yeah before we go out and some more generalities

1169
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: about the, draft let's talk about one more edge, Prospect

1170
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: Keldric fulk out of, all he's like the GUY i

1171
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier From. Miszoo he's a big six to six,

1172
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: kid lots of, trades and he might, be like you,

1173
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 3: said maybe an end on a four to three rather

1174
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: than an outside. Linebacker, yeah he's a guy.

1175
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: That played all over At auburn's defensive. Line he may

1176
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: not be a true edge. Player you, know he's he's six,

1177
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: six he's two seventy, Six he's got ridiculous length over

1178
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: thirty four inch, arms a phenomenal wingspan of over eighty.

1179
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: Two he's another power. Player you. KNOW i don't want

1180
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: people to Think i'm making a direct, comparison Because i'm.

1181
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: Not BUT i think you guys will appreciate, this And

1182
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: i'm sure a lot of people In buffalo will understand

1183
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: What i'm. SAYING i thought WHEN i was watching, HIM

1184
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: i actually thought Of Bill belichick and the way he

1185
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Deployed Richard Seemow Now he's Not Richard, seymour SO i

1186
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: don't want people to Think i'm making a direct comparison

1187
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: to the. Player but a guy that could line up,

1188
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: inside could line up outside depending on what you want

1189
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: in your front to look, like and could be a

1190
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: factor in either. Area you, KNOW i mean, literally he

1191
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: lined up from zero technique outside to wide, nine and you,

1192
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: know he's just he's a, very very long, athlete and

1193
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: he's a physical power, player AND i think he can

1194
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: do a lot of things with. Him i'm not sure

1195
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: he's a pure pass, rusher BUT i think that he

1196
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: could develop into becoming a better one as he continues to.

1197
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: Grow is he the kind of guy Can keldric fulk

1198
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: could he? Become does he do anything well enough to

1199
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: warrant being taken a twenty six in the drafter higher

1200
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: or does he do everything well enough for that to

1201
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: be the, Reason because certainly if he's lining up wide

1202
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: nine and down to zero he Can he's versatile enough

1203
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: that they'll find a spot for. Him, Right.

1204
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: He's probably more of the latter of what you just.

1205
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Said he does everything well. Enough he probably doesn't have

1206
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: that one defining trait that you, say, wow that guy

1207
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: can do that no matter what you. Know to, me

1208
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that's just a really good football.

1209
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Player but you don't come away, going, wow he does

1210
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: that and that's what he. Is but he's you, know

1211
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: he's just every once in a while he just shows

1212
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: something and you do, say you, know that's really. Good

1213
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: but we'll. SEE i, Mean i'll be fascinating to see

1214
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: where he goes because he doesn't do that one thing super.

1215
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: Well, YEAH i mean high character. PLAYER i, mean this

1216
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: guy was a team captain On auburn and he's only

1217
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: twenty one coming. Out but at the same, time To greg's,

1218
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: point like he wasn't great at any one thing at

1219
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: ten career sacks in thirty seven games as a three year,

1220
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: starters but you notice him on. Tape he's just not

1221
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: always the guy finishing the, play so to. SPEAK i

1222
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 2: think that might be the best way to notice.

1223
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: Him you're, right, yeah because a lot of times he

1224
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: makes very physical plays that he doesn't then make the.

1225
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: Tackle but he makes those physical, plays.

1226
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: He'll be spilling the quarterback to somebody else or the

1227
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: running back to somebody, else but he's penetrating and disrupt.

1228
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: Things, greg what do you think of The bills changing

1229
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: from a four to three three. Four we've had a

1230
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of conversations about what that means for roster makeup,

1231
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: defensively and certainly The bills have some guys who have

1232
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: departed and they were all in that four to three, mindset,

1233
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: right you know when when you play your. Basses and

1234
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: last year The bill's defensive staff finally figured it out

1235
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 3: after all the. Injuries they were going three three five

1236
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: in their. Alignment sure now to come in and change

1237
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: it up and, go you, know go to a three to. Four,

1238
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: uh what do you think the problems are going to

1239
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: be switching the defensive roster over with the with the

1240
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: free agents that they've, lost with the different philosophy that

1241
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: you have with your. Linebackers you got two guys standing

1242
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: up off the ball or with their hands off the

1243
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: ground at the end of the line of, SCRIMMAGE i

1244
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: mean all the stuff that goes into the four three

1245
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: three fourth. Thing what do you think the major problems

1246
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: are for The bills as they head into this? Draft

1247
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: and now that you've seen him sign guys Like Bradley chubbins.

1248
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: And the, Like, yeah look they know more THAN i.

1249
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: Do So i'm not gonna act like you, Know i'm

1250
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: the expert. Here but if if they're going to play

1251
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: that three four or five two AS i call, it

1252
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: when you have you, know two stand up guys on the,

1253
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: edge you, know and then who plays, INSIDE i, MEAN

1254
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: i think they have to figure that. Out obviously they've

1255
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: thought about. This they're not doing this on a. WHIM

1256
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: i would Look Bradley chubb was obviously. Signed he'd be

1257
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: a stand up outside backer in their base. DEFENSE i

1258
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: would assume guys that if this is the route that

1259
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: they do, go Wouldn't Greg russo be the other one

1260
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: who would be the stand up outside? PLAYER i, think,

1261
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: yeah not. Sure you don't know right?

1262
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: Now russeau changed his.

1263
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: Number he changes number to, fifteen which can't be worn

1264
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: by a defensive. Lineman so it's pretty much a foregone

1265
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: conclusion he's going outside.

1266
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: Back, well there you. Go, OKAY i didn't REALLY i

1267
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: didn't know he changed his.

1268
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: Number you.

1269
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: Know the question, is you, know how does That? Oliver

1270
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play a five to, two and, again don't,

1271
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: forget there's so many ways to play these, fronts as

1272
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: you guys, know so you, know everybody ought to thinks

1273
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: three four five. Two it's a two gap. System that's

1274
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily the. Case there's so many things you can.

1275
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: Do And Jimmy leonard is incredibly. INTELLIGENT i mean he

1276
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: is so respected by everybody who knows, defense so he

1277
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: knows all these. Things so you, know it's we don't

1278
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: want to sit here now and On april second and

1279
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: sit here and, say, well they can't do this because

1280
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: they have this. Guy you, know they know these. Things you,

1281
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: know this reminds me of the conversation a year ago

1282
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: when when The seahawks On Cooper cup and everybody, said,

1283
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: well what are they going to do With smith And

1284
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: Chigball he's only a slot. Guy, well you, know these

1285
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: teams know these. Things you, know this is not we're

1286
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: not breaking news. Here they know these. Things so they

1287
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: have a plan and you, know none of us know

1288
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: how it's going to play, out but they obviously have a.

1289
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: Plan because you think About oliver as a pure four

1290
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: to three gap, player but you know what they know

1291
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: that about. Him this is not going to be a

1292
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: surprise to.

1293
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: Them Right and maybe if you could in the time

1294
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: we have, left just quickly explain that the traditional you,

1295
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: know three four fronts with a head up on the. Center,

1296
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: nos like A Ted. Washington those really don't exist all

1297
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: that much anymore in the. League, currently most of these

1298
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: three floors do play with two defensive tackles on the.

1299
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: Field so could you just maybe outline how that will,

1300
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: work particularly for Ed oliver in this.

1301
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: System, well, traditionally what you, had as you, Said, brownie

1302
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: as you had someone who played head up on the

1303
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: center and then two defensive ends who played head up

1304
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: on the offensive, tackles and they basically did what we

1305
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: call two. Gap in other, words they'd go right into

1306
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: the player in front of, them and they would sort

1307
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: of play peek a, boo and they play the run,

1308
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: okay and they have to be physically. Strong that would

1309
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: be their. Game they weren't what we call gap. Players

1310
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: but now the way the league has evolved with all

1311
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: these five to two fronts three to four as they,

1312
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: SAID i call it a five to two is they've

1313
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: changed the way these defensive fronts, align so you can

1314
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: still play gap. Football so Ed oliver is not going

1315
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: to line up over the center or over an offensive

1316
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: tackle and have to hand fight. Him he's going to

1317
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: still be a gap. Player and now even in a

1318
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: lot of these. Fronts teams slams so much so they

1319
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: slam players into. Gaps so they know all this About

1320
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: Ed oliver and about even assuming that someone LIKE. Tj

1321
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: sanders plays more this year as a second year, player

1322
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: he's a gap player as. Well they know these. Things

1323
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: so even if they choose to play with a five

1324
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: to two base, look they know what the strengths of

1325
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: their players. Are this will not be an old school

1326
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote three to four.

1327
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,520
Speaker 2: Defense all, Right, greg thanks for the. Explanation we appreciate,

1328
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: it and all of the workups on the edge rushers

1329
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: will catch up with you next week for a new

1330
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: a new position group to be. Determined can't wait to do.

1331
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: That we'll see.

1332
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: It i'm, binding, Guys i'm, grinding you, know so are

1333
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: We we're.

1334
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: Playing catch, up you, know, yeah, yeah all, right we'll

1335
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: see you next.

1336
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: Week really appreciate. It have a great holiday. Weekend thanks

1337
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: for having me, today, right that's.

1338
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: Great Co sel joining us one day early since we're

1339
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: off for a Good, friday and he was nice enough

1340
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: to move the schedule around to be available to talk to.

1341
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: Us and there are many other edge rushers besides some

1342
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: of the ones that we, outlined And i've tried to

1343
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: look a little bit deeper into the, Class, steve because

1344
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: of what we came across and mentioning some of these,

1345
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: names Like Zion young is a four to three defensive

1346
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: end hand on the ground. GUY i don't dismiss him,

1347
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: completely But i'm trying to find the guys that are

1348
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: going to be playing with their hand off the ground

1349
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: as outside, linebackers right because you know my obsession with team,

1350
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: speed AND i think they need those juice guys off the.

1351
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: Edge So i'm like gravitating more to The Armyson thomas's

1352
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: and the Cash As howls and other players of that,

1353
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: ilk you, know than a guy Like Zion, young who's

1354
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: a great, talent don't get me, wrong but you, know

1355
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: some of.

1356
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: These guys are, built and some of these guys jump

1357
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: at you because they're built to be their stereotypical guys

1358
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: for a four to three or three four edge, rushers

1359
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: and you call them edge, rushers and you know they've

1360
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: got these physical trades that are you, know they jump

1361
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 3: out at you and you watch them on tape and

1362
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 3: they make plays and they've got to be on your

1363
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,520
Speaker 3: board just because they're that. Good whether they are stereotypically

1364
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: you know that skill set or.

1365
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: Not so.

1366
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be really fun to watch this edge group

1367
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 3: because the, guys the GUYS i got.

1368
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 4: THAT i mentioned, this, Uh Zion young and the other,

1369
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 4: guys even T J parker to some, Degree Keldric. Falk,

1370
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: yeah those those guys may be edge rushers in four

1371
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 4: to three defenses almost exclusively because they're six six two.

1372
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 4: Seventy they're big dudes and teams that's they would have

1373
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 4: been more on The bills radar last.

1374
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 3: Year, yes you know WHAT i. Mean so the focus

1375
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: of guys you can really pinpoint, sharpens you, know it.

1376
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 3: Sharpens and while these guys are still part of the

1377
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: conversation unless there's something about him on, film the guys

1378
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 3: like look look at, this watch him do, This we

1379
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 3: need him give, that you know that kind of.

1380
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: Stuff And i'm not saying The bills wouldn't consider one

1381
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: of those, players because they might very well, say, Well

1382
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 2: Zion young could be a five tech in our three

1383
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: four defense and he'll have his hand on the, ground

1384
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: like so maybe they consider, that but knowing they drafted

1385
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: three defensive linemen to fill those kinds of roles last

1386
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: year to a great. DEGREE i tend to think they're

1387
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: going to gravitate more to the hand off the ground

1388
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: edge guys to play outside.

1389
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: Lineback part of the conversation that happens as, Well brownie

1390
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 3: is it, goes, well he's not really, Us but you

1391
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: know the thirteen teams ahead of us that need an edge,

1392
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 3: rusher six of them need a guy like, that, right

1393
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: just to know who the guy is that if he's

1394
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 3: on the board when you're, picking you don't. Care if

1395
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: he's on the board ahead of. You you're hoping somebody

1396
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: picks him because he doesn't fit your. Scheme so maybe

1397
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,919
Speaker 3: the you, know The jets or The dolphins or whoever's

1398
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: got a couple of picks up in front of, you

1399
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 3: one of those picks is used up by a guy

1400
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 3: you didn't want that plays that, position and that that

1401
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: always enters the figure the realm of.

1402
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: Possibility take as many four or three pass rushers as

1403
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: you want ahead of The, bills play, right push the

1404
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: juice guys that play outside linebacker down To buffalo at twenty.

1405
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: Six that would be a very welcomed development In round

1406
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: one of the, draft now less than a month. Away

1407
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: we got to take a break. Here when we come,

1408
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: back we'll answer some more questions in the mail bag

1409
01:14:43,200 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: here on one Of Bill's Live now for this Week

1410
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: scoop of The week presented By Blue, bunny the official

1411
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: frozen treat of The Buffalo, bills and the scoop of

1412
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: the week is pretty. Simple Josh allen's a. Dad he

1413
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 2: and his Wife haley announced the arrival of their, firstborn

1414
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: a baby. Girl so congrats to the Now allan. Family

1415
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: and as we, said no name reveal, yet maybe that'll

1416
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 2: come in the coming, days which brings us back to the,

1417
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: mailbag and there is A Josh allen baby birth related

1418
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: question From rick who asks two. Things does anyone checked

1419
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,879
Speaker 2: to make Sure josh And haley's new baby isn't a? Vampire?

1420
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: Okay very. Funny and my bet for the baby's name Is,

1421
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: patricia After josh's. Grandmother just a. Hunch it's not a

1422
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: bad not a bad, IDEA a lot of good. HUNCH

1423
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: a lot of families do name babies, after you, know

1424
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 2: recently departed. Relatives, yeah that's a very common.

1425
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: Practice got eleven of. Them there's a handful that have family.

1426
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: Names that's also a very common practice in The jewish,

1427
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: faith as, well, so, YEAH i think that's a distinct

1428
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: possibility that they pick a name from their families. PAST

1429
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: i wouldn't rule it out at. All, uh let's get

1430
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: back to the mail bag Where jack, asks what Will

1431
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: leonard do with Add? Oliver he doesn't have the girth

1432
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: to be a traditional three four nos nor the length

1433
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: to be a three to four defensive. End he doesn't

1434
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: have the speed to be a rush. End so where

1435
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: does that leave. Him it's a good football player when.

1436
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: Healthy is he a limited even front pass, rush a,

1437
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: joker a middle, linebacker et. Cetera, well Great cosel just

1438
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 2: answered this for, us and we've gotten some inklings of

1439
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: how this defense is going to look up. Front the

1440
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: old school traditional three four front with a nose tackle

1441
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: head up on the center and two defensive ends head

1442
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 2: up on the tackles doesn't really exist anymore in its traditional.

1443
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 2: Form more often than, not these five to two fronts

1444
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 2: have two defensive tackles on the field and a defensive

1445
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: end who's usually playing like a five. Tech and then

1446
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: you have the outside stand up rush, linebackers and they

1447
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: will often angle those defensive tackles at gaps rather than

1448
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: trying to two gap AND i think that's how they're

1449
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 2: going to deploy At oliver because he really can't play

1450
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: in a three to four any other. Way it.

1451
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 3: What a two gap. Means it means that the defensive

1452
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 3: lineman kind of runs into the offensive lineman and then

1453
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 3: goes to where the ball is either right or left

1454
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 3: of who he's getting blocked. By one of the other

1455
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 3: ways you can do it with guys who aren't big

1456
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 3: and strong and can dominate an offensive lineman or push

1457
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: into them is just tell him to. Penetrate ye go

1458
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: right or, left pick a gap between the garden center

1459
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: or the the guard and the, tackle or outside the.

1460
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: Tackle just pick a gap and you get through it

1461
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 3: and disrupt the play once you're past the line of.

1462
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: Scrimmage make them come get you instead of engaging an

1463
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: offensive lineman and going right or left and just following the.

1464
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: Ball both ways can be effective if you have guys

1465
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: with that skill, set And Ed oliver seems to fit

1466
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: the penetrator better. Right he's a two hundred and ninety

1467
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: pound guy who's really quick and fast and. Explosive you

1468
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: saw it early in the season last Year ed was

1469
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: having his best. SEASON i MEAN i was getting off

1470
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 3: to his best start ever because he was playing on

1471
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: the other side of the line of. Scrimmage they'll try

1472
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: and get him to recreate that a little further from

1473
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: the football at the.

1474
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: Snap AND i would EXPECT. Tj sanders to be deployed

1475
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: in a similar fashion because he's the same kind of.

1476
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: Player he's a little, bigger he's three hundred, pounds BUT

1477
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: i would anticipate he's deployed in a similar. Fashion AND

1478
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: i think somebody Like Landon jackson is that quote unquote defensive.

1479
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 2: End so you have a defensive tackle in the middle

1480
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: of that three man, group you have a defensive tackle

1481
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: to the left of, him and then a quote unquote

1482
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 2: defensive end on his, right and that's probably a guy

1483
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: Like Landon, jackson who at two to, eighty you, know

1484
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: is gonna play the four eye or the five.

1485
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: To give you get a defensive end of that. Size

1486
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 3: and what. Happened you put the, tackle a big defensive

1487
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: tackle on the nose and a big defensive tackle on

1488
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: the on the tackle with the tight end outside of

1489
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: them that strong side of the offensive. Formation then you

1490
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 3: put the defensive end out on the open side where

1491
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 3: it's just the offensive tackle over. There and there's nobody

1492
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: else base in a base offensive. Look that's how you

1493
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: deploy those guys and and turn them. Loose you're, right

1494
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: That's land And jackson a bigger dude with leveraging and

1495
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: extend that can extend that. Arm and then the course

1496
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 3: outside of those three, guys you got two guys outside

1497
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: of them on on the line standing.

1498
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: Up so.

1499
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: It's just a different look for the. Offense gives you

1500
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: more flexibility and more theoretically more unpredictability is to full

1501
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: which one or two of the linebackers are going to

1502
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 3: rush the. Passer and now you've got instead of having

1503
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: a four to three where you've got four guys with

1504
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 3: the handle of the ground that are going to rush

1505
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 3: with maybe one of the linebackers wherever he is blitzing the,

1506
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: quarterback now you've got two end, guys both of which

1507
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 3: are theoretically are really good pass, rushers and your three down,

1508
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: linemen and you don't know which side of the ball

1509
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 3: is going to be the harder side to. Block it

1510
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: just adds a higher degree of difficulty for the offense

1511
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 3: to decipher who's going to rush the, quarterback and, therefore

1512
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: how do you set your protection And, therefore if you

1513
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: don't know how to set your, protections you're going to

1514
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 3: miss more often and guys are going to be coming running.

1515
01:20:52,760 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: Free the problem, is as the season wears, on you

1516
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: find out who their good pass rushers are and who

1517
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: their good coverage guys, are and you just start to

1518
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 3: pick him apart like, That, well this guy hardly ever.

1519
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 3: Rushes we're you, know we're gonna Let we're gonna leave

1520
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 3: him unblocked and take it for granted that he's gonna you,

1521
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: know they start to predict you by what your own players. Do,

1522
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: well we'll see what. Happens.

1523
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah next question in the mailbag comes From andrew Says Max,

1524
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: brettison a fullback tight end From, michigan is projected to

1525
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: be a six to seventh round. PICK i would take

1526
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: a chance on. HIM i follow a lot Of michigan

1527
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: football AND i like what he brings to the. Table

1528
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: he could easily Fill gilliam's. Position what are your thoughts

1529
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: if they want a full? Back, yeah he'll be a.

1530
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: Consideration are we Gonna i'm wondering, though if if they're

1531
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: going to replace that designated position on the. Roster, look

1532
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: they may feel Like Jackson hawes can fill the role

1533
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 2: when they need it utilized on the field within the

1534
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: scope of their. Offense but are they maybe moving away

1535
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: from more of THE i formation and offset ice stuff

1536
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: that we Saw Reggie gilliam do last? Year perhaps they.

1537
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: Are maybe they're going to be throwing the ball. More

1538
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: maybe they won't be a fifty percent run. Team these

1539
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: are all things we do not. Know and if we

1540
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: get through the draft and they don't add a fullback

1541
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: with a draft choice or an undrafted because let's not

1542
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: Forget Reggie gilliam was an undrafted rookie free agent who you,

1543
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 2: know parlayed that into a very nice career and got

1544
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: to a second contract and made a nice bit of

1545
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: change in signing With New. ENGLAND i think you can,

1546
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 2: fairly you can fairly conclude and hypothesize That buffalo's offense

1547
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: is going to be more passing oriented than we've seen

1548
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: in the last few.

1549
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 3: Years, yes that's just that's the point where this conversation

1550
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 3: starts to get. Into this is a different coaching staff

1551
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: and they're gonna have they're gonna run things, differently and

1552
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 3: the games are gonna play out, differently their rosters built

1553
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 3: differently there and if they if they come out and

1554
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: throw the football like they come out like The Kansas

1555
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: City chiefs and throw the football all over the, yard

1556
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: because that's What Andy reid loves to. Do you'll know

1557
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: that it's because of the new head. COACH i, mean

1558
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 3: that's that's. IT i, mean there's no you can't get

1559
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: around it.

1560
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: Well time and, again When sean McDermott was, here when

1561
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: we talked to him about what he believed in in

1562
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: terms of offensive, principles one of the top two things

1563
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: he would always mention was. Balance he is convinced to

1564
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: his very core that the best offenses are. Balanced they

1565
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: can both run the ball and pass the. Ball AND

1566
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: i think the last two years With Joe brady as

1567
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: HIS oc reflected that principle that he lived by as

1568
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: far as offensive football was. Concerned how much does it

1569
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: change now That brady has to say, so that's the

1570
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: interesting because he's.

1571
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: TRUE i, mean when The bills ran the ball better

1572
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 3: than anybody last, year, RIGHT i mean the one THE

1573
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: nfl leading rusher With Josh allen at, QUARTERBACK i, mean

1574
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: that's that's a problem for. Defenses the critics of that will, say,

1575
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: yeah you Got, josh and it's nice that you can

1576
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 3: threaten and you can run the ball when you want.

1577
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 3: To but the best way to do, this this whole,

1578
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 3: thing is put that, defense the other, defense under a

1579
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: lot of, pressure sling the. Ball let's go score, points

1580
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 3: because that'll help your defense because the other team will

1581
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 3: be desperate all the, time desperate all the, time and

1582
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: they'll put they'll have to put the ball at risk

1583
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 3: that you can take advantage of as a, defense particularly

1584
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: a defense that struggles getting after the. Passer so that's

1585
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 3: if you're gonna play And i'm finger quoting it conservative

1586
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: offense and run the football a, ton you're not gonna

1587
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: turn it over very. Much and if you can end

1588
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 3: drives and score, points which The bills did a lot

1589
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: of last. Year if you can end drives and score,

1590
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 3: points then the other team's under pressure. Anyway but it

1591
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: also shortens the. Game so even if you're scoring on

1592
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 3: a lot of pos the other team's not that far

1593
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: out of. It you, know you're deep into the first

1594
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 3: half and they're still they're down by what three instead

1595
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: of being down by two, scorers they're down by three

1596
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 3: points because there haven't been that many, possessions you, Know

1597
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: so that's what happens when you run the ball a.

1598
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: Lot the game dynamics. Change the number of possessions each

1599
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 3: team gets, changes the desperation that the offense is forced

1600
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 3: to play with, changes how much they put the ball

1601
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 3: at risk. Changes when one team is really good at

1602
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: playing that conservative brand of, football you can keep a

1603
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 3: bad team close and still be playing. Great on the

1604
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 3: other side of it is obvious if you go out

1605
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 3: there and sling the ball, over you're turning it. Over

1606
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: they're Getting they're turning the, ball they're Catching josh's, passing

1607
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: turning it into a touchdown for them instead of. YOU i,

1608
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: mean that's what that, happens you. Know so it's it's

1609
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 3: two sides of the same, coin and it's a double edged.

1610
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: Sword however you want to put that. Analogy so when

1611
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 3: this team takes the field this year and we see

1612
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 3: marked differences in their run percentages and the way, that you,

1613
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: know the way the game is, managed you know it's

1614
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 3: going to become obvious that the new coaching staff has

1615
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: had a, big big hand in a change in a core.

1616
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Philosophy break time for us, here a couple of questions

1617
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: left to go in the mail. Bag we'll get to

1618
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: those when we return here on A thursday EDITION a

1619
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 2: One Bill's. Live all, right some final questions out of

1620
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 2: the mail, Bag doug, ASKS i want to know how

1621
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: many years they can push big contracts down the road

1622
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: before it hurts. Them, well it's already you, know restricted their,

1623
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: AGGRESSIVENESS i would say in free, agency because very often

1624
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: they're they're tasked with getting under the cap just to

1625
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: get in cap. Compliance by this started the league, year

1626
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: which was the case this, year it was the case

1627
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: the year before, that and this is with the cap

1628
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: going up over twenty million dollars a year. Now SO

1629
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: i Think Brandon bean and the people that balance the

1630
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 2: books for, him Like kevin Me yank And Jim, overdorf

1631
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: they do a good job of staying away from the

1632
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: catastrophic sky is falling, budgeting but they do cut it

1633
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: pretty close because they've usually got work to do in

1634
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: the spring to get under the. Cap AND i just

1635
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: checked because right, now according to our good Friend Mike

1636
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: jannittiot Spat, track they're about they have about thirteen million

1637
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: in cap space right. Now next year they are a

1638
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: projected thirty one over because some of these contracts that

1639
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: they just restructured. Balloon next, year they're gonna have to

1640
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: be addressed. Again so you can kick the can down

1641
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: in the road a long. Time aints did it for

1642
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: almost twenty, years, yes and then they bit the bullet the.

1643
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: Last Two there were years when The saints were like

1644
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: nine digits over the cap and certain points of the, office.

1645
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: And that's when the cap was like one hundred and thirty, million.

1646
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 3: And so they and then they recycle it and just

1647
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: restructure or whatever and just keep.

1648
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 2: Going and void yeers are the new thing that teams have.

1649
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: Used The eagles use it more than anybody. Else and

1650
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: the max you can extend a contract with void years

1651
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 2: is like, four like a one year. Contract you can

1652
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 2: put four void years in maximum two year. Contract the

1653
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: maximum void years are. Three it can add up to

1654
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: more than five with the void.

1655
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Years, yeah The bills have forty six million in dead

1656
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 3: cap space this, year so they're they're able to spend

1657
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty million bucks on players this, year

1658
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: starting With josh at forty four. MILLION i think his

1659
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 3: cap hit is this. Year so this year was a

1660
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 3: much better offseason and financially than last year was for The,

1661
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Bills So i'm it.

1662
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 2: He'll probably have to revisit it again next year in

1663
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: the same.

1664
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 3: SPOT i shrugged my shoulders at it right now because

1665
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 3: they can figure it.

1666
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 2: Out alex, asked what do you expect From Joshua Palmer

1667
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: in year two with The. Bills we saw flashes from,

1668
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: him but injuries limited what we all thought he would. Do,

1669
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: now with more here and a potential draft, pick receiving

1670
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: rooms getting, Crowded Joshua palmer is gonna get. PUSHED i

1671
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: think he's gonna get pushed in training, camp and he's

1672
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: got to show up and show, out especially if this

1673
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: draft pick is worth his, salt if they make one

1674
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 2: at the receiver. Position we'll see. Everybody have a, great Good. Friday,

1675
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: tomorrow we're. Off we'll see you back On. Monday have

1676
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: a Great, easter. Everybody we'll see you at one On.

1677
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: Monday