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Speaker 1: Breaking now an Amber alert. Imancy Grace, this is Crime

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Speaker 1: Stories and now our crime news update. Charged and on

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Speaker 1: the run. Police seeking Darius Higgins for killing a mom

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Speaker 1: and abducting, kidnapping her baby, two year old little girl

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Speaker 1: right now to Alan, Alan, what the mom's dead and

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Speaker 1: the baby's gone? Do we even know the babies alive? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume and hope that the baby's alive

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Speaker 1: because Darius Higgins, the man who is believed to have

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Speaker 1: taken two year old Noelana, is the father and has

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Speaker 1: been caring for this child for some time. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the shooting allegedly happened when the mother, Sierra Robinson, twenty

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Speaker 1: four years old, went to Milwaukee, flew there from Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas in order to get the child back from the father.

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Speaker 1: Why does she leave the baby there anyway? She had

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Speaker 1: lived in Milwaukee, but decided that she couldn't care for

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Speaker 1: to start a new life. She decided, according to an

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Speaker 1: arrest Affidavid, she decided that she wanted the child back,

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Speaker 1: and she flew back to Las Vegas and arranged for

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Speaker 1: the handoff. She was going to meet Darius Higgins. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they were in the car together, riding around and, according

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Speaker 1: to a friend, reminiscing about old times and drinking. But

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Speaker 1: he had another plan. Allegedly took them to a somewhat

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Speaker 1: began shooting. The complaint indicates that Sierra no longer wanted

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Speaker 1: the baby back. No Lannie get him get the baby

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Speaker 1: back from Higgins, and he agreed, So she flies back

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Speaker 1: to Milwaukee as Alan Duke is telling us to get

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Speaker 1: the baby now. According to the criminal complaint, they were

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Speaker 1: set to meet there at twenty two Fondilac. The woman

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Speaker 1: was wounded in his shooting. In the shooting, to police,

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Speaker 1: she went along, but the child wasn't there. Instead, the

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Speaker 1: mom ends up getting shot shot dead. Now what do

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Speaker 1: we know about the possible whereabouts of baby and Noah

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Speaker 1: Lannie Robinson, Well, we really don't know. We just know

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Speaker 1: that Higgins, after the shooting disappeared. He apparently had the

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Speaker 1: child at another place, went got the child and then disappeared.

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Speaker 1: They initially put a lookout when this happened Monday afternoon

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Speaker 1: for a Cadillac, but it turns out it wasn't that Cadillac.

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Speaker 1: That Cadillac was found later in Miami. He's believed to

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Speaker 1: be in another car. So there's an a wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, So you're telling me that somehow the

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Speaker 1: Cadillac he's driving and goes from Milwaukee to Miami. They

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Speaker 1: thought he was in that car because he had had

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Speaker 1: believed that he that quickly was here. So we don't

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Speaker 1: have a clue. But we don't. We don't. But but

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, he is the father of this child,

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Speaker 1: but he allegedly murdered the mother when she came to

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Speaker 1: get this child, and then he fled. Milwaukee PD Captain

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Speaker 1: Thomas Casper is begging Higgins to take the baby Noahlannie,

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Speaker 1: and drop her off at a safe place, a family

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Speaker 1: member's home, a fire station, a hospital, just anything. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen right now to this press conference regarding an

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Speaker 1: amber alert and the search underway for a two year

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Speaker 1: old little girl, Noelanie Robinson last scene in Milwaukee. Please

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Speaker 1: help us, help us solve the Amber alert and bring

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Speaker 1: Noah Lannie to safety. Her mother has been murdered. Listen. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: at about one pm, Milwaukee police squads were dispatched to

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Speaker 1: a shooting in the sixty three hundred block of North

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Speaker 1: ninety first Street. When they arrived, they found two out

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Speaker 1: apartment building. The first female was twenty four years eight

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Speaker 1: she was suffering from numerous gunshot wounds. Although medical attention

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Speaker 1: arrived promptly, she was pronounced dead at the scene. The

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Speaker 1: second female is a twenty eight year old Milwaukee resident.

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Speaker 1: She was shot multiple times. She was transported to a

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Speaker 1: a third person was located. A thirty five year old

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee man suffered a gray's wound to the left shoulder.

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Speaker 1: He was also transported to a local hospital, where he

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Speaker 1: identified as days dr ia Z L. Higgins, twenty eight

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Speaker 1: and Florida. The Cadillac, which was originally described in the

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Speaker 1: mister Higgins is believed to be armed and dangerous and

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Speaker 1: right now his whereabouts are unknown. If you have information

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Speaker 1: about missing No Lannie Robinson, please call four one four

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Speaker 1: nine three five seven zero two to repeat Milwaukee p

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Speaker 1: of course, dial nine one one Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: We're here today discussed the incident. The case yesterday occurred

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Speaker 1: on March fifth, twenty nineteen. Child's body was discovered about

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Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Like the sheriff said, on Hacienda Boulevard, just

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Speaker 1: down the embankment, just south of Klima Road. The location

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Speaker 1: is just below the Buddhist temple in an equestrian walkway area.

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Speaker 1: Investigators believe that the victim was dumped at the location

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Speaker 1: sometime during the late evening hours of Sunday, March third,

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Speaker 1: and discovered again on March fifth at ten o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning. The victim was discovered by some county workers

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Speaker 1: the equestrian trail. You are hearing the Yella County Sheriff,

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Speaker 1: Scott Hoagland telling reporters that La County workers doing maintenance

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Speaker 1: on a trail find the body, a body in a

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Speaker 1: duffel bag. How does a body fit in a little

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Speaker 1: believe it's the body of a nine year old little girl.

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Speaker 1: At first, the big question was who is the girl

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Speaker 1: in the duffel I'm Nancy, Grace, this is crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Listen to the sheriff.

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Speaker 1: The victim was in fact found partially inside of a

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Speaker 1: black rollaway type duffel bag. The upper portion of the

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Speaker 1: victim was protruding from that bag. The victim is a

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Speaker 1: female black Originally, yesterday we determined that the victim was

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Speaker 1: roughly seven to ten years old, but after further investigation

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Speaker 1: The age just goes on and on. The search for

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Speaker 1: the identity of the girl in the Duffel Joining me,

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Speaker 1: forensics expert Karen Smith out of the Florida jurisdiction. Renowned

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Speaker 1: psychologist out of Manhattan, Karen Start. You can find her

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Speaker 1: North Carolina lawyer Kathleen Murphy. Joining me right now, Crime

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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter John Limley. John Limley, Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the discovery of a Duffel bag. What happened,

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Speaker 1: Nancy was around ten thirty Pacific time last Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 1: This is March fifth. County workers were clearing some brush

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Speaker 1: equestrian trail that's just below a big Buddhist temple there.

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Speaker 1: The crew all of a sudden stops dead in their tracks.

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Speaker 1: They come upon a big, black rollaway type duple bag.

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Speaker 1: And we were from the outset wondering how a body

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Speaker 1: There is a body sticking out of the bag, the

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Speaker 1: young girl wearing a pink t shirt. Now, when police

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Speaker 1: indeed a young girl, as we've heard, probably between the

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Speaker 1: It's a play on the phrase future princess. Instead in

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Speaker 1: the scene are baffled on many different levels. Not only

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Speaker 1: also no obvious signs of trauma. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: child's death suspicious. Well, I guess, so she's in a

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Speaker 1: duffel bag, John Limley. I mean, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: the girl was not bound or tied up. And you

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Speaker 1: Forensics expert Karen Smith, there are other ways to determine

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Speaker 1: the age of a skeleton or a body, Karen, Right.

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Speaker 1: there are they're called suitor marks, and those suitures as

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Speaker 1: not observe any obvious signs of trauma to the victim's body.

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Speaker 1: be determined at an autopsy that should be taking taking

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Speaker 1: place the next day or two. The motive at this

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Speaker 1: find out if anybody saw anything suspicious in nature during

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Speaker 1: those time frames on Hassi and the Boulevard. There is

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Speaker 1: they've been traveling that area that may have seen a

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Speaker 1: our victim who are sketch artist at Homicide Bureau created

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Speaker 1: a sketch. We are looking for anybody that recognizes this individual,

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Speaker 1: recognizes the suitcase as well as the clothing that the

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Speaker 1: victim was found in. Joining me Karen Stark, psychologist out

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Speaker 1: of Manhattan. You can find her at Karen Stark dot com. Karen,

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Speaker 1: what does it say to you that as they are

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Speaker 1: searching to identify this nine year old girl stuffed in

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Speaker 1: a duffel bag thrown off the side of a horse path,

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Speaker 1: what does the mode of disposal of the body mean?

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Speaker 1: That means that someone absolutely had no regard for this child.

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Speaker 1: That's what strussed me, Nancy. The fact that he said

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Speaker 1: have been detained as persons of interest. While at this

430
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: investigation is still fluid. So long story short, She's living

431
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: with her mom and her boyfriend, and suddenly there are

432
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: two persons of interest. You know what I always say,

433
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, There is no coincidence in criminal law. Kathleen Murphy.

434
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: Now we are learning the very latest too have been

435
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: arrested after the body of a nine year old girl

436
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: found stuffed in a duffel bag on a horse trail

437
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: was identified by family and police in La County. This

438
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: horrific discovery made by workers on a trail there in

439
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Hacienda Heights. It's been ruled a homicide. And Jackie Howard,

440
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: which I say with a little bit of disdain right now,

441
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: is here in the studio with me. Alan get wisely

442
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: is keeping his mouth shut in La because she actually said,

443
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: why do you keep saying murder? You know what, don't

444
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: start with me, Jackie, Because if Kathleen, it's just like

445
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: tot mom, if this isn't a murder, then why is

446
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: she discarded by the side of the road. Why is

447
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: this girl stuffed in a duffel and and thrown on

448
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: a horse trail? If I hope nobody would find her

449
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: egg just like in tot Mom a maintenance worker and

450
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: there and tot Mom was utility worker and talking about

451
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Kelley Anthony, the two year old tot that was many people,

452
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: including myself, believe murdered by her mother Kasey Anthony, mom

453
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: from hell. So long story short of of course, it's

454
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: a murder. She didn't just trip down the stairs and

455
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: dine and they go, oh, you know what, instead of

456
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: having a funeral, let's just stick her in a duffel

457
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: bag and throw her on a horse on a horse trail. Kathleen, Please, Jack,

458
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm since you obviously don't know enough to be embarrassed,

459
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed for you. Okay, go ahead, Kathleen. Yes, it's

460
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: very similar. She wasn't reported missing. She's found in the woods.

461
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: And this woman's gonna blame everybody but herself else. But

462
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: she's the one that was living with a man that

463
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: stopped this child's father. She's a convicted sex offender. The

464
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: bad Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait right there, John Limley,

465
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you think you might have left out a major fat

466
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: The mother is a registered sex offender. I have to

467
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: find out from a lawyer in North Carolina. Well hello,

468
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: And to go even further with that, it is claimed

469
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: by family members, not police, that the persons of interest

470
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: that the police are holding, they've been arrested and p asked.

471
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: When you say the police are excuse me, John Limley,

472
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: the police are holding. When police are holding somebody, they're arrested, John,

473
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: They're not just holding them for a cup of tea

474
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: in a crumpet. Okay, they're arrested. Correct for this, right?

475
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: And the names are I have so much fun fussing

476
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: it you. Okay, go ahead, but we have to get

477
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: things right. We have to clarify. Yes, you do. And

478
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: the people of interest, according to the family are the

479
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: child's mother, to Questa Graham, and her boyfriend, Emil Hunt.

480
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Authorities have not confirmed this, however, jail records do show

481
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: that Hunt is in custody. However, Graham is not listed

482
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: in the jail's inmate database. Now, doing a little searching,

483
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: we very quickly discovered that, according to California's Sex offender Registry,

484
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: to Questa Graham is a registered sex offender. And this

485
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: is a big point for you. Wait a minute, Wait

486
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: a minute, you said the mom. Yes, not the boyfriend,

487
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: No love Anne, the mom. This is the mom. Okay.

488
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm just letting that just sink in for a moment,

489
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: because normally hear about the boyfriend, the dad, the ex,

490
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: they're all registered sex offenders. Who's not a registered sex offender?

491
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: The mom is a registered sex offender. That's true to Questa.

492
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Graham is registered for the offense of enticing a minor

493
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: female for prostitution, and that was from nineteen rather two

494
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. So what I'm understanding is that that

495
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: could not have been who she was getting a girl.

496
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: She's convicted and as a registered sex offender getting a

497
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: young girl, a minor to prostitute. Now I know that

498
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: that's not this little girl Sherinity loved johns her daughter,

499
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: because Trinity's not old enough to have been that little girl. Wow,

500
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: thanks mom. So why was she in the home John Lily?

501
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Why was she living with the mom and not the dad.

502
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: The mom and her live in well of San Bernardino County.

503
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Court records say she received a suspended prison term, time

504
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: served in jail, and probation, and then there was a

505
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: hearing to revoke her probation. And all of these charges

506
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: involved a minor under the age of sixteen, And is

507
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: you've did there's no way that this could be Trinity,

508
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: that she was enticing the female for a prostitution, because

509
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine would have been roughly around the

510
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: time she was probably pregnant with Trinity. John Lemley, you

511
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: do not answer my question, so I will move on

512
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: to Kathleen Murphy, who seemingly has a very firm grasp

513
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: of the facts. John, Kathleen Murphy, Why one day you'll

514
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: look back and laugh, Kathleen Murphy. Kathleen Murphy, why was

515
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: she living with the sex offender mom? And to live

516
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: in because nobody cares in the social services community. If

517
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: something like this is not reported and somebody doesn't follow up,

518
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: it is very easy for a child to get lost

519
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: in the system. Where were the grandparents, Where was the father?

520
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: Where were the aunts? Where were the uncles? Where was

521
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: the child support agency or the child services agency? I

522
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: am so upset to hear about this situation. Questions tonight.

523
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: They want to know why Trinity's mother, to quest A Graham,

524
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: who's a registered sex offender, had Trinity in her custody.

525
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: And two is Trinity's mother's boyfriend, Emil Hunt. It's more

526
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: than just a mother and in the boyfriend. We have

527
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it. Family members say.

528
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Both are in custody for Trinity's murder and being held

529
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: on a two million dollar bail. In justice. We need

530
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: to figure it out. It wasn't supposed to happen like

531
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: this and to no one and everybody deserves an answer. Meantime,

532
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Trinity's father posted an emotional message on Facebook about being

533
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: kept from seeing Trinity by some family members and now

534
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: he's distraught he'll never see his little girl again. I

535
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: have a nine year old daughter now who would never

536
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: ever ever walked. That is KTLA reporter Mary Beth McDade,

537
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: And you're hearing Hinney loves dad. That's the big question

538
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: right now. Why was this a little girl with her

539
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: sex offender mother and her boyfriend and what did this

540
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: girl endure before her death? Right now, we don't even

541
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: know how the little girl died. There's no obvious signs

542
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: of trauma on her body. Karen Smith, forensics expert, how

543
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: will they determined? That? A great question. You know they

544
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: have a manner of death, which is homicide, but the

545
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: cause of death is actually the mechanism that facilitated the death.

546
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Was it strangulation, was it a smothering? You know, things

547
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: like that is what they're going to start looking at us.

548
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: There's no obvious trauma to the body. And Nancy going

549
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: back to breaking this down like you do as a

550
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: fabulous prosecutor. No, this child was murdered and then, according

551
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: to the maintenance worker who found her body, was wrapped

552
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: in a blanket, and then the child in the blanket

553
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: were stuffed in this duffel bag, which was then hurled

554
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: over the side of a highway into a dirt embankment.

555
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of forensic evidence that they can

556
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: glean from that, from the child's clothing, from her body,

557
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: from the duffel bag, from the blanket. They're going to

558
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: have to do a crime scene search of the mother

559
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: and boyfriend's place of residence, the vehicle that was used

560
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: to transport the body. They have a lot of work

561
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: on their hands, and I'm really hoping that some of

562
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: that forensic evidence will lead right back to the person

563
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: or persons that committed this murder. Two. John Linley Crime

564
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter who I love to argue with.

565
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: John Emley. I understand that police so far have not

566
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: stated who is in custody, but we know who's in

567
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: custody because of the family members, right all right, police

568
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: are still not releasing that nation it is through family members,

569
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: including family members posting on Facebook that we know that

570
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: it's the mother and the boyfriend that have been arrested.

571
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: What do we know about the mom other than she's

572
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: a sex offender. Trinity's mom to Questa, Graham has filled

573
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: her Facebook page with a lot of selfies of herself.

574
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: There are two pictures of Trinity on her page as well.

575
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: In one, she says that they were at the zoo.

576
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: She said she lived in Long Beach, she was from Hollywood.

577
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: Her cover photo shows her kissing the boyfriend Emil Hunt.

578
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: One photo showed her head her in a head covering.

579
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Although her publicly visible posts are not religious in any nature,

580
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: from the Facebook page, she seems to be a loving mom.

581
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: We have no reason to believe otherwise. You know, John Limley,

582
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: you don't you always say a loving mom. You always

583
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: say that, John Limley. You know she has a record

584
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: for prostituting a little girl, and you keep You've said

585
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: this more than once. A loving mom. She's not a

586
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: loving mom. Her child she worked on that image. Yeah,

587
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting. Let me quit yelling at poor

588
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: John Limley for a moment. Karen start. You know, you know,

589
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: always posting pictures of the twins and we're here and

590
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: we're there, and I mean the pictures, do you know

591
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: how many people are outraged that David is never in

592
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: the pictures and who do they think is taking the picture? Yes,

593
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: you do, so, Karen start. I mean when you look

594
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: at Facebook or you know, your social media, a lot

595
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: of times you don't see the whole picture because you've

596
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: got this mom posting all these you know, family perfect

597
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: photos of her with her daughter who was now stuffed

598
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: in a Duffel bag on the side of a horse trail.

599
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: But she was never reported missing. So what does that mean?

600
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Do people do with social media? They portray something that's

601
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: not real. It's a story. It paints a picture of

602
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: something that we really have to question and never believe

603
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: what you see in social media, Nancy, because that is

604
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the salient point. She was never reported missing. What kind

605
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: of loving mother doesn't immediately panic if he she doesn't

606
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: know where her child is and inform the authorities. So

607
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: you know immediately that something is very wrong if this

608
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: girl is not reported missing. The mom, approximately thirty years old,

609
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: we know is in a relationship with a guy named

610
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Emil Hunt. We also know he's being held at the

611
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: La County gl want a two million dollar bail, We'll

612
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: let me tell you something that ain't for shoplifting. I

613
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: notice online on his Facebook the boyfriend to live in

614
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Emil Hunt says he is in a relationship. Do your

615
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: rack which is the name to Kesta Graham uses on

616
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: social media. Hm, we know that they're in a relationship

617
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: because she posted it. Long story short. You find out

618
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: so much from people by what they post on social media.

619
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert. You know, as I was saying,

620
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: you can learn so much from people's social media. For instance,

621
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: which Cherney love Jones mother Graham. Her Facebook is full

622
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: of almost nothing but selfies. It's only a couple of

623
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: pictures of the little girl. Karen Smith. What does that

624
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: mean to you? Forensically? Well, forensically, it tells me a

625
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: lot about the mom and her mindset, very self self absorbed.

626
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: If you're not posting pictures of your kids and you're

627
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: a mom, that that is a red flag to me.

628
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: That's a very distant way. Social media is a very

629
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: distant way of putting yourself away from that child, Like

630
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: did you care about her? Did you care about her

631
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: school work? Did she get good grades? Did you post

632
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: pictures of the drawings she made you yesterday? Things like

633
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: that is what I see on social media from my

634
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: friends with kids all the time. And when you have

635
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: selfie after selfie after selfie and no pictures of the child,

636
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: where is that child in your life? And that could

637
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit of circumstantial evidence for the police

638
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: and prosecutors to go forward. You know, I'm looking at

639
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: what is on her the mom's Facebook. One post that

640
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Speaker 1: she has quote my mama didn't raise a fool. An

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Speaker 1: Grace crime story, signing off goodbye friend,