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Speaker 1: This episode is presented to you by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: The crown is yours. Talk to us about that journey.

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Speaker 3: I remember to this day. I was like, we're not

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Speaker 3: gonna lose to them. We're not gonna lose Game five

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Speaker 3: on our.

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Speaker 4: Home court, Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna win.

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Speaker 5: It's over.

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Speaker 6: So when I player gets him in the game, I

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Speaker 6: knew everything was gonna do. Like I swear to guy

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Speaker 6: Snack every every move, every counter.

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Speaker 7: I know this shit is just haben.

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Speaker 8: I know this ship is just saber, not.

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Speaker 2: Not.

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Speaker 9: I can't live with myself if he beats me on

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Speaker 9: the highest stage.

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Speaker 2: Like bro y'all does have to have my back.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome to the show. Magic Johnson, your rookie year.

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Speaker 1: Go to the finals. First, Doctor j you're able to

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Speaker 1: beat them finals MVP is a rookie.

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Speaker 2: But before where we get to the.

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Speaker 1: Final dinner, Before we get to that final experience, Doctor Jason,

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Speaker 1: when you looked up to I heard in college he

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Speaker 1: kind of rolled out the red carpet to you.

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Speaker 2: Explain that story about doctor j Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I was leaving school and I called him up, and.

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Speaker 10: So he said hey, I said, hey, what is it.

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Speaker 4: Like leaving you left? So I want you to tell

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Speaker 4: me what it's like for me to leave Michigan stay early.

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Speaker 4: And so he was explaining to me on the phone,

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Speaker 4: and then he said, I'm gonna do you one better

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Speaker 4: fly out to Philly and hang out with me for

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Speaker 4: the weekend.

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Speaker 11: I said, what, Doc, No, Doc, that's doc.

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Speaker 4: This is doctor J saying a young fellow can come

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Speaker 4: hang with him. And he put me up at his

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Speaker 4: crib at the big mansion.

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Speaker 2: How he pick you up a limo?

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Speaker 10: And my brother was like, oh, show, I'm calling everybody.

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Speaker 10: I'm with doctor J at his house.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, I'm sitting there, living in the

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Speaker 4: living room and he's talking to me and I'm just

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Speaker 4: zoning out, like I can't even believe it. I've always

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Speaker 4: had docs on.

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Speaker 11: So now I'm with him.

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Speaker 5: Oh it was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, man. So we hung out the whole weekend. Wife

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Speaker 4: took great care of me as well, went to a

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Speaker 4: couple of playoff games he was in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He gave me some great advice.

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Speaker 4: And then here it is seven months later, I'm playing

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Speaker 4: the brother in the NBA finals. My idol, I'm playing

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Speaker 4: him in the NBA Finals. And so we so I said, man,

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Speaker 4: I love you, but I gotta take him out too,

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Speaker 4: and take him out. But when he came down that

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Speaker 4: middle I mean on that right side and cuffed that

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Speaker 4: ball on cool, I said, oh oh man. And then

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Speaker 4: the other one was he came down the right side

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Speaker 4: and he jumped out of bounds and he started walking

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Speaker 4: the finger roll yeah, in.

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Speaker 12: The air and fro going back, bunting against the glasses.

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Speaker 13: Good.

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Speaker 5: I said, man, this dude is too much.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: See he was doing that George before Michael. People forget that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was the first dude walking in the air. Oh man.

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Speaker 4: It was so much fun playing against Die and that

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Speaker 4: we won.

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Speaker 5: But talk about talk about yourself.

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Speaker 2: A little bit because Kareem went down.

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Speaker 1: You're a rookie twenty years old years in the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: the only first and only rookie to ever win finals.

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Speaker 2: MVP.

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Speaker 1: Talk to these people that didn't follow the game back

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Speaker 1: then and what it was like and the numbers.

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Speaker 14: You put up slid to the center, that center from

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Speaker 14: point go out to center.

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Speaker 4: Well you know again, man, I so he gets Kareem

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Speaker 4: gets hers it in game five, and so I get

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Speaker 4: to the airport, everybody head.

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Speaker 5: Is down because Kareem can't play.

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Speaker 4: I said, so what, Kareem can't play, We're still gonna win, right,

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Speaker 4: And they looked at me like rookie.

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Speaker 10: Go sit down.

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Speaker 4: We can't beat Philadelphia without Kareem. I said, man, we're

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Speaker 10: Was like, we can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Irvan, I said, so I gotta do something, Matt, I said,

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Speaker 4: I got to do something to get these guys going.

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Speaker 4: So Kareem would always sit in one A that was

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Speaker 4: in Kareem seat, and as every Laker came by, I said,

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Speaker 4: never fear magic is here.

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Speaker 2: And they were like, this dude is crazy.

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Speaker 4: You know, so they laughed. So I had five hours

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Speaker 4: on their mindset and lattitude. Because ladies and gentlemen, if

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Speaker 4: you don't think you're gonna win an win over, it's over.

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Speaker 4: So I told him, man, gonna win this game. And

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Speaker 4: so I told the coach I'm gonna play center. He

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Speaker 4: was like he was like, he looked at me like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: have you ever played center?

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I played center in high school. He said, Man,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna play center tomorrow against Cadwell Jones.

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Speaker 4: So long story short, you know, I scored forty two points,

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Speaker 4: fifteen rebound, seven assists, winning the game. And it was

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Speaker 4: a blessing to him. To be named NBA Most Vavable

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Speaker 4: Player the Finals was a true blessing. But to win

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Speaker 4: the game, yes, again.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost.

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Speaker 4: All the other stuff don't matter, right, just win the game.

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Speaker 5: So we won the championship.

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Speaker 4: So that was my first one, and then I became

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Speaker 4: the third guy ever in NBA history college come out

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Speaker 4: of college.

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Speaker 2: That's right, to go back to back.

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Speaker 5: So it's a bit a blessing, a lot of history.

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Speaker 1: And welcome to the show, Sean kimp Man. Six, you

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Speaker 1: finally break through. You sweep Dream and Clyde beat Stock

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Speaker 1: in them alone. In seven, you get to Mike. You're

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Speaker 1: avenue twenty three and ten in the finals. What was

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Speaker 1: that we got GP started. We had GP a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago. GP said, if GP said, if they

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Gary was having had They had a couple of

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Speaker 7: little injuries he had, so they didn't want to exert

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Speaker 2: Which didn't go well.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, look at it. DeLand is a

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Speaker 7: great player. I mean he is, man. I don't think

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Speaker 7: you come on, you know what I'm saying. If anything,

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Speaker 2: And be physical with him.

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Speaker 7: But you know, you come out there being soft with Michael,

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Speaker 7: He's gonna take advantage of you. And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 7: But Michael wasn't the reason he didn't beat us in

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Speaker 7: the championship. He did not beat us. Man, we was

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Speaker 7: on his ass. Well, he didn't beat us. Dennis Robbins

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Speaker 7: the one who we had no answer for his ass man, Really,

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Speaker 7: we had no answer for Dennis Robbins. I mean, every

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Speaker 7: extra rebound or tipping, this motherfucker was flying and winking,

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Speaker 7: and I mean he said winking and winking and testing

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Speaker 7: and ship frustrating everybody on the team. Man, it's not

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Speaker 7: even like that. He just do that ship. Just just

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Speaker 7: doing that ship. He had you know, my team just flustered.

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Speaker 2: Man, what kind of ship would he do?

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Speaker 7: Uh, I'm gonna tell you what, Frank mcconsky. Man, Then

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Speaker 7: this mon dinnis started wearing color contacts doing the championship.

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Speaker 7: He started wearing color color contacts during the championship with

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Speaker 7: then Frank just couldn't take it. Man, it was just

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Speaker 7: the man and him just couldn't allow it. Dinner's new

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Speaker 7: buttons to push, man, we need to freak the rebound.

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Speaker 7: He got him all discombobulated.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, my god, absolutely, man, Dennis Robert.

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Speaker 1: He I was his defense man, well me.

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Speaker 7: I mean his defense was good. It wasn't. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he wasn't just too big for dinner. You know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying. I'm a little bit too big for dinner.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's a fair agile to But his

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 7: Like I said, he was just tipping the ball and

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Speaker 7: rebounding high knee and doing all this silly ship man,

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Speaker 7: all the ship that you hate to see.

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Speaker 2: And they needed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly what they need.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: Scotty Pipping is great man. You know, I played with

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Speaker 7: Pipping in Portland. I just say this, but sometimes they

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Speaker 7: people don't get Pipping his props. But Scottie Pippen was

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Speaker 7: have been a quality ball player without Michael Jordan. Michael

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Speaker 7: Jordan definitely made him a little bit better. But my man,

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Speaker 7: Scotty Pippen was still balling when he was in Portland.

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Speaker 7: You know, he wasn't no match for Kobe when we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kobe, but.

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Speaker 7: Scotty was still balling. Man. He could still play the

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Speaker 7: pass and lanes. He's never been a great shooter, but

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Speaker 7: he's just been athletic to do a lot of different things,

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Speaker 7: you know, pass, scoring, rebounding, that's his game.

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Speaker 2: Talk.

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Speaker 1: What was Mike like in those finals? Talking just straight

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Speaker 1: about business?

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Speaker 2: What was it like?

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Speaker 7: And well, we played Mike in the finals. We were

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Speaker 2: He was focused all right here there was a picture

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Speaker 7: No, that's that's Gary. Gary was letting him know that

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Speaker 7: he was getting in his ass, because that's when they

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Speaker 7: didn't put they took Gary, They took Daglas off. Michael

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Speaker 7: put Gary on. So Gary, you know, I used to

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Speaker 7: run down court. I'd be and I'd be like, showt

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Speaker 7: him the glove. I'll be like the glove, can't give

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Speaker 7: his back the ball away and gave him flashy glove

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Speaker 7: to But that's you see Michael looking back a flashing

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Speaker 7: that glove side. He didn't like that ship. That's the ship.

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Speaker 7: That's the ship. That's the ship there. That's you. You

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Speaker 7: get Michael going. Man, when you see that look right there,

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Speaker 7: you got some problems coming back because now you don't

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Speaker 7: want to talk to you. Now he got something to

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Speaker 7: prove to you. You got another problem.

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Speaker 2: Get a chance to know Mike off the court.

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Speaker 7: Not so much off the court, but definitely battles on

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Speaker 7: the court, man, definitely battles on the choir respecting. I

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Speaker 7: I've seen people be physical with Mike. I've seen him

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Speaker 7: have a game plan to stop him. He altered his

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Speaker 7: He's coming on party.

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Speaker 2: We hit us with to get down and laid down.

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Speaker 17: That was dope because he was arguing with their bench

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Speaker 15: Passed the ball, the ball, get off of it, Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I don't know what.

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Speaker 17: And he watched it right and Shaq fouled out. Hey man, Cole,

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Speaker 10: They was hating on him.

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Speaker 15: I'm like, why y'all gonna hate on.

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Speaker 2: Him because he was that confident.

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Speaker 18: But he ain't.

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Speaker 2: He ain't even like go out, he ain't dream.

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Speaker 1: He was over with us. We was in college. He

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Speaker 6: Man, just a killer, just like we talked about it,

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Speaker 21: It was over.

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Speaker 19: Relaxed. I got it, so, you know.

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Speaker 6: The reporter asked Kobe, He's like, you know, your teammate

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Speaker 22: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You got serious?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 19: So you know I love him? I love him sure?

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, fifteen to one in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: You guys run into the Lakers in the two thousand

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Speaker 5: I don't like it?

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Speaker 23: Really, he was giving me so many problems, man, straight

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Speaker 23: It was dope when you look back on it, but

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Speaker 19: With him at the moment.

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Speaker 19: Still to this day, it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 6: And you get kids like, oh, that's the guy you

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Speaker 14: I'm on that same mixtape. They showed me more highlights

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Speaker 6: So I'm with you, But it wasn't even a big deal,

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Speaker 24: He's two years.

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Speaker 6: But like, man, the corn rolls from the hood, like

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Speaker 6: But like he he changed our game, like in thet

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Speaker 6: He changed the game for us as from where we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not comfortable wearing a suit, and if I

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Speaker 19: Eddie Jones laughing at me, like what you got on?

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Speaker 19: You know, you're always teasing people.

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Speaker 19: Who you are. And so I idolized this dude.

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Speaker 6: I told him from day one, and so when I

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Speaker 14: No, No, it was that because how he is the

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Speaker 14: People try to make it as it seem like he

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Speaker 6: like I'm a dog, like I'm a guard every night,

446
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna back down.

447
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 19: If we got a scrap, I'm gonna scrap.

448
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It is what it is.

449
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like he's MVP

450
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 6: and I'm just I'm just happy to be able to

451
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Speaker 6: have a chance to compete against him at a high level.

452
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Speaker 19: So I'm giving everything I got. But like I said,

453
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 19: that's my guy, Like if he needed it or whatever,

454
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 19: that's that's my.

455
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Speaker 2: Guy to the end.

456
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Speaker 14: They don't know Chuck is one of the most sensitive

457
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 14: NBA players ever. He cry all that he gonna tell

458
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 14: you he loved you twenty times, twenty times.

459
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

460
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Speaker 1: People don't know that the random phone out the blue yea,

461
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: I love you, Yeah, and.

462
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: I love him too.

463
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 19: To get a chance to compete against him in two

464
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Speaker 19: thousand and one.

465
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Speaker 6: I don't know where I would be because, like you

466
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, you don't know if you

467
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 6: don't get an opportunity, like I was like on the

468
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 6: bench kind of you know what I'm saying. I didn't

469
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Speaker 6: play till six minutes to go in the third quarter.

470
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 6: I didn't play the whole first half, you know what

471
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So, like having an opportunity to compete against him,

472
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 6: like it just it changed my career, changed my life.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that two thousand and one team one of

474
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Speaker 1: the greatest, if the greatest of all time, all time.

475
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 19: Yeah, the greatest of all time for sure. Nobody could

476
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Speaker 19: beat that team.

477
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Speaker 1: Who so it was name that wrote Who's who's on

478
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: that roster with y'all?

479
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 6: Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, Rick Fox, Horse, Grant

480
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 6: Shack Cold there yet Robert or Yeah, So, I mean

481
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 6: it wasn't. I'm just basing off of Shock and Cold,

482
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 6: like people talking about you know, Draymond got crazy, Like yeah,

483
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Speaker 6: I mean nobody see the pro mean is what they

484
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 6: understand is Shock, Like you know we can you can

485
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 6: double team guard Shack? Ye forget everything everything.

486
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 19: Else, Like how you're gonna guard Shack?

487
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 6: Like that's that's the biggest thing because now you and

488
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Speaker 6: the bonus for six minutes to go in the game,

489
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Speaker 6: I mean the in the quarter. Now Kobe gets loose,

490
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 6: you can't touch him night free line, So like, how

491
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Speaker 6: are you gonna guard Shack?

492
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Speaker 19: That's what people understand, like that was that was the best.

493
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Speaker 6: That was the great team of all time to me,

494
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Speaker 6: for sure, Kobe any Kobe and Shock team, I don't

495
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 6: see how you can how you can beat that team.

496
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Speaker 22: He's saying my brother Kenyan Mark k motherfucking Mark.

497
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Speaker 2: Two thousand and two Finals.

498
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Speaker 14: You guys and they came across that midpoint they were having.

499
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Speaker 2: They came across the midpoint.

500
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Speaker 5: So we're talking about that.

501
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that, oh too, Shock and Kobe,

502
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Speaker 1: you were you guys run through the east and you

503
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Speaker 1: guys run into them?

504
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Speaker 2: What was it like?

505
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Speaker 1: There was the one picture I think in that finals

506
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Speaker 1: where Shack was dunking on everybody on the team at

507
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Speaker 1: one time, absolutely.

508
00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: In one video.

509
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Speaker 16: That is one of the best pictures in sport history,

510
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 16: in NBA history though, like steel shots, that's one of

511
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 16: the best pictures.

512
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: Ever.

513
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Speaker 1: How tough were they though? How tough were they in

514
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Speaker 1: the it's But you were someone you had to guard.

515
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: You you were a rare person could guard Shack and you.

516
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Had to you had to guard.

517
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Speaker 25: I was the romer.

518
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 16: I was the double guy. Because it fits like, wait,

519
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 16: while I can't do nothing with that dude. If I

520
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 16: did get caught on, all I have to do is

521
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 16: try to front him, and he just pushed me up

522
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 16: the lane. They thought it was impossible to guard.

523
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Speaker 2: Impossible.

524
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Speaker 16: Listen, man, So you pick your poison, do you try

525
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 16: to play him straight up.

526
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 5: You know what you're gonna do? Do you double swing swings?

527
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Speaker 16: Now you got Now you got Derek Fischer going four

528
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Speaker 16: for seven, Robert or going two for five, Devin George

529
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 16: going too for It's just so then what do you do?

530
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Speaker 16: And then you got the other animal that one on

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Speaker 16: one is destroying.

532
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Speaker 5: Us everybody in the world.

533
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Speaker 16: He average shock, averaging thirty six. He averaged twenty six whatever,

534
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Speaker 16: like it was impossible. But you know what I'm saying.

535
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Speaker 16: I I look back at it, like I averaged twenty

536
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Speaker 16: two against them, like my second year average twenty twenty

537
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Speaker 16: finals against them, Like I posted on like somebody like

538
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Speaker 16: the number of points in these serious somebody posted like

539
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Speaker 16: it was one of them apps.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I seen that thing. You were up there.

541
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Speaker 1: That's right, I'm.

542
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Speaker 5: Third on the list.

543
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Speaker 1: Of course you had Shock and coke cole and then

544
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Speaker 1: came on.

545
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Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying, So I average twenty twenty

546
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 16: finals like my second year, like game four and our

547
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 16: home flow like man, we ain't getting swept like fuck that,

548
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 16: Like I'm not going home tonight, Like we're going back there,

549
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 16: like you.

550
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: Went home that night.

551
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Speaker 7: You were home that night.

552
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Speaker 2: It happens though.

553
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Speaker 16: Seventeen in the first thirty five for the game No,

554
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Speaker 16: I hate, but wasn't.

555
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Speaker 26: It was.

556
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Speaker 5: It was a different animal.

557
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Speaker 14: There was just no no machine, nothing you could put

558
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Speaker 14: in front of shock in Cobe around that time.

559
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Speaker 5: I don't care what it was. It was nothing. You

560
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 5: could do nothing.

561
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Speaker 7: And then the next.

562
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Speaker 2: Year, next year, you run into these fellas.

563
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Speaker 14: It came on down and say in the Texas boy,

564
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Speaker 14: old spur boy, they ass got lucky. We split the

565
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Speaker 14: first two games on their floor. No, we were scared

566
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Speaker 14: with after y'all should have been. I told j JK

567
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 14: was busting our ass.

568
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Speaker 15: Bro.

569
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Speaker 16: We split if we go home and get two because

570
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Speaker 16: it was the two three two s they got with

571
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Speaker 16: our home floor. If we go boy, listen, No, but

572
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Speaker 16: Timmy was prob.

573
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Speaker 5: He took one.

574
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Speaker 27: He went to UH and took one in Jersey by

575
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Speaker 27: him damnself.

576
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Speaker 5: Some of the numbers he put up in that series.

577
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Speaker 7: Dog.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: And when Tumbo was talking about don't double, all right,

580
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 14: they stopped doubling. This is why they doubled him a Tumbo, Hi, Hi,

581
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Speaker 14: how you want to hook crossover played away off the

582
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Speaker 14: glass like Dumbo. Yeah, you need to come you have

583
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 14: it your way, stopped playing.

584
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 16: Bro and blocking everything. He playing offside on me and

585
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 16: on the ball on me. Like now he did his

586
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 16: thing and they had to double Yeah.

587
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Speaker 5: What happened?

588
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Speaker 1: That's that's swing swing Stack? What's Stack doing that game?

589
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 5: Serious?

590
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 7: I'm saying it went six? What I'm saying it went six?

591
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Speaker 2: He that played well was raining?

592
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we have a maxisions what I'm saying. No, but

593
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Speaker 16: I didn't listen ye but one No, but one thing

594
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 16: for show. Two things for certain. When employees six was guardening,

595
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 16: there was no double teams. It wasn't no double team

596
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 16: what I'm saying, Like he might have scored it all.

597
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 16: He did his thing. But you can go ask that

598
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 16: man to date did he had to work for each in,

599
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 16: every one of them, know what I'm saying, Like I

600
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 16: figured out how to guard people because having to guard

601
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Speaker 16: him mm hmm. The problem where to meet him and

602
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 16: force him to where I want him to go, instead

603
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 16: of letting him walk me straight down the lane to

604
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 16: catch the ball he wanted to and not letting him

605
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 16: shoot them. He never shot that bank shot on me, ever,

606
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 16: I wouldn't allow.

607
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: It was on him.

608
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm a crowded, you know what I'm saying, So

609
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 16: therefore I'm gonna take something away. You're gonna have to

610
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 16: do something else, Like that's the one you can get

611
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 16: to make him do something. You got to make him

612
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 16: do something else. So therefore, no, he was like, shout

613
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 16: out to him. What I'm saying, He made me better?

614
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 16: What made him made me? In that series?

615
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: Though he welcomed the double team, he waited on me.

616
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 5: He waited, he waited.

617
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, no, he he made me a better basketball

618
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 16: player and a better defender, him and a couple of guys,

619
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 16: but him was definitely.

620
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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 14: So we was hearing the same thing because me and

622
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 14: you was together up damn after every game. So we

623
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 14: was hearing the same things about Jay Kid possibly coming

624
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 14: to San Antonia. What was you thinking about that when

625
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 14: you was hearing that too?

626
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Speaker 16: I ain't think nothing of it, to be honest, saying,

627
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 16: I know they had and all that.

628
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 14: I was just I didn't if you were the winning win,

629
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 14: I was hoping they was getting rid of Tony.

630
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 16: Yeah, like if you win, you win. You know what

631
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 16: I'm saying, Yeah, like now you would have changed everything.

632
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying, of course, but please, but

633
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 16: history has You know what I'm saying, he stayed and

634
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 16: then they got rid of me, so m they would

635
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 16: pay me and it still didn't work. Yeah what I'm saying,

636
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 16: the didn't want to pay me, so they had.

637
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they made some bad moves.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Show Byron Scott.

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Speaker 1: So that off season Marbury for j Kid and then

640
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Speaker 1: fast forward the two thousand and three finals Nets versus Spurs,

641
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Young stacky versus old team. What's going through your head

642
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: as because like I said, you on your young bullshit,

643
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's all payback in your mind.

644
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 14: But let me say this, even though it was it

645
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 14: was two years because the first year I was on

646
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Speaker 14: injured list when I left, and the second third year

647
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 14: I played in two thousand and three, so I had

648
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Speaker 14: a left I had a left time to grow in

649
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Speaker 14: that San Antonio Spur system.

650
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Speaker 5: For two years. I was learning how to be a professional.

651
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Speaker 14: I was around Steve Smith, I was going to church

652
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 14: with David Robinson, so I was starting I was starting

653
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 14: to grow up a little bit. So that's how I

654
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 14: ended up being in the starting lineup. I was learning

655
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Speaker 14: how to be a professional. So I just wanted to

656
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 14: just play. Well, you know what, I'm saying, yes, your

657
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 14: old team, but I just wanted to play. Well, you

658
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 14: know what I'm saying, that's all I was focused on.

659
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Speaker 1: So and your that's your third year coaching, third year coaching,

660
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: you find yourself in the NBA finals, Like, what's going

661
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 28: When I wrote back to back to back? Yeah, we went,

663
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Speaker 28: We went San Antonio doing with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: So you as a player, you've experienced that as a player.

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Speaker 1: Now your experience is from a coaches point of view,

666
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: like what what's your mindset and what's your preparation and thinking?

667
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: Like in the finals.

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Speaker 28: Well, you know what, It's funny because I think the

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Speaker 28: first finals we got.

670
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: To was the Lakers, and that was ugly. It was ugly.

671
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Man.

672
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 28: We had Jack, you know, we had no answer with Shock.

673
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

674
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 28: Yeah, you know, we had guys that could guard Kobe.

675
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 28: They can't stop Kobe, yeah, but they could make it

676
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 28: tough on Kobe and you know he's still gonna get

677
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 28: twenty five thirty.

678
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

679
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: I was like, nah, just look at that.

680
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: I was like this and I was at the crib.

681
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: He dunked on the whole team.

682
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

683
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 28: The shack man Man, Shack Shack was so dominant. It

684
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 28: was unbelievable. So I knew he was in trouble because

685
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 28: I told I told the team, you know, before the game,

686
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 28: I said, this is this is something that you guys

687
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 28: have never experienced. So when we come out, make sure

688
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 28: you're focused on the game, you know, because we had

689
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 28: the Staples Center, right, So the guys come out, be

690
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 28: and my coaching staff. We walk out about the three

691
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 28: minute mark instead of two minute mark. And I'm standing

692
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 28: there and I'm watching our guys warm up, and I'm going, man.

693
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 5: Were about to get the ship beat out of us?

694
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: Because they were like looking around deer head, like, man, you.

695
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 28: Know that, yes, we about to get the ship beat

696
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 28: out of us, right, And they went up about twenty

697
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 28: five so fast.

698
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 5: You know.

699
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 28: For the rest of the game. We played even but yo,

700
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 28: they swept us in that series. But we we we

701
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 28: really played well for three cores the street and half quarter.

702
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 5: We just couldn't.

703
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 28: We had nothing for Shack, you know, and when you know,

704
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 28: you guys both know when he come ready to play,

705
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 28: there's nothing you can do. We double team d we

706
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 28: triple team d uh. And it was just nothing we

707
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 28: could do. And we just we were just out man.

708
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 28: They just had a much better basketball team. But it

709
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 28: was it was great for me to be able to

710
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 28: take a team back to la where I'm from and

711
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 28: to be in the finals, you know what I'm saying

712
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 28: as a coach.

713
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 5: So that was a very proud moment for me.

714
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: And then the following year, you find yourself right back

715
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: in the finals. Now you're against Tim Duncan and the Spurs.

716
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 28: Against Jack and the Dunk and Tim Duncan and those guys. Yeah,

717
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 28: he was on the mission. Unbelievable season. You know, probably

718
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 28: should have got m VP, to be honest with you,

719
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 28: him and Tim was right there. Him and Tim was

720
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 28: right there, and we gave him a fight, you know,

721
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 28: but they were there again. You know when you got

722
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 28: your Jack and Genoblee, you know their their wing players

723
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 28: were so good. You know, Tony Park was that Robinsons

724
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 28: last year, and then you got Tim Duncan. He was

725
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 28: like out, Yeah, we just I mean again, you could

726
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 28: you could guard certain guys, you can't stop him. You

727
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 28: can make it hard on as we tried to do.

728
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 28: But you know, San Antonio was such a great team,

729
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 28: so we knew, you know, there was four to two

730
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 28: in that series and Pop who I got so much

731
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 28: respect for coach, you know, just unbelievable coach.

732
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: You know, he is one of.

733
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 28: Those coaches that still to this day is still old

734
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 28: school in his mentality as far as discipline, doing shit

735
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 28: the right way, and if you don't, you sit down.

736
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 5: That's what I tell him.

737
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 14: I say, Pop is more of a coach, He's more

738
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 14: like a leader because he leads the whole organization into

739
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 14: even if the team is not good enough, you come

740
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 14: into that season believing you can, you win in the championship.

741
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 27: It's just that, just to feel around the whole organization.

742
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: And he started that right Rip Hamilton, Welcome to the

743
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: show Man. He obviously talked about your team, how you

744
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: guys are perfectly constructed. You guys run into a great

745
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Laker team where many teams didn't give you a shot,

746
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: and you're playing against you know, one of your high

747
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: school How many people can say they played like one

748
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: of their best friend from high school in the finals

749
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: and then beat him.

750
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

751
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit about that was because,

752
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think many people gave you

753
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: guys a chance because of Shaq and Kobe's dynamic. But

754
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: you guys just had a deeper, better team.

755
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: Man.

756
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: You know what it was, like I said, it was you.

757
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 9: We were built on against all odds, like my man

758
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 9: Tupac said, right, you know, we felt like we were misfits.

759
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 9: You know, we felt like teams gave up on us

760
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 9: too early. My situation in Washington, Chauncey situation him, you know,

761
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 9: being on a few teams before he got there, Tay

762
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 9: Shawn being a number twenty second pick at that time

763
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 9: when he felt like he should have been the top

764
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 9: fifteen pick. Ben Wallace being moved all around, you know,

765
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 9: him not being respected Rashid you know, you going through

766
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 9: the stuff that he went through in Portland. So we

767
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 9: felt like we felt like man like, to be honest,

768
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 9: we were the better team, you know, but going against La,

769
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 9: like I said, going against Shaq and Cole probably the

770
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 9: best one two punch of our air pretty much.

771
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

772
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 9: And and Cole from the from the standpoint of me

773
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 9: knowing him as a kid, always been a killer. So

774
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 9: I know that he's gonna come ready, right, So I

775
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 9: can always remember, like h going to to Ben and

776
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 9: Chauncey and she and and Tay, and I used to

777
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 9: tell him like yo, man, this dude been. He beat

778
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 9: me for a state championship in high school because that

779
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 9: was our thing. It was always a back and forth thing.

780
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 9: You know, who would get the upper hand? Uh he

781
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 9: won there, he he won, he got. He won the

782
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 9: state championship that year. So when I went a national

783
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 9: championship in college, I called him and was like, yo, bro,

784
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 9: you can have that high school championship.

785
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: That shit don't mean nothing. I got a college. I

786
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: got to college.

787
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 9: He was like, real, man, in two years, I'm gonna

788
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 9: have two NBA championships.

789
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah right.

790
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 9: He was like, trust me, two years, I'm gonna have

791
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 9: two of them. So that you know me, that back

792
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 9: and forth was was us since kids.

793
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: So he was like, man, you don't want to no.

794
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 9: So when we got there on that stage and knowing

795
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 9: the history of us going back and forth and always

796
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 9: competing against each other, I'm looking at Chauncey and I'm like, bro,

797
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 9: I can't let this dude beat me again. Hell nah,

798
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 9: Like like I fuck that. You know what I'm saying, Like,

799
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 9: I can't live with myself if he beats me on

800
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 9: the highest stage, Like, bro, y'all dudes have to have

801
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 9: my back. And I can remember being saying to myself, bro,

802
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 9: what you're talking about?

803
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 5: Rip shit?

804
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 11: I got shock, Like he said, all this stuff, I

805
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 11: gotta and.

806
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 9: I got to guard him head up, I said, Bro,

807
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 9: I get it, I get it, but I can't leave

808
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 9: this game, this series with with with allowed this dude

809
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 9: to beat me. So you know, it was fun man,

810
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 9: Like I said, confidence wise, we believe that we can

811
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 9: beat them, you know, but we know it was gonna

812
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 9: be an uphill, uphill battle, just knowing that the roster

813
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 9: they had up they had set up with Gary Payton

814
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 9: and Karl Malone on that team also, but uh, we

815
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 9: just fell.

816
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: Pelsog was our year.

817
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 14: We got our big bro on the show today, coach

818
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 14: of the Portland trail Blazers, big Shot Billips.

819
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Detroit has a number two pick. You got a chance

820
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: to get Carmelo Anthony. We talked to him about this shit,

821
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: and he his whole energy changed the thought of what

822
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: would have happened if I would have got drafted by Detroit.

823
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: You guys take Darko. Obviously took a chance. Didn't work,

824
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: but you guys had a hell of a team. But

825
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: imagine that team with Carmelo Anthony. Oh my goodness, man,

826
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: what was your guys initial thought process? Though when it happened,

827
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: we all thought we was taking Mellow. Okay, we all

828
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: was on deck. We was always on board. We all

829
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: thought Mellows, Mellow, Mellow. We excited. It was perfect. Obviously

830
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: we had a team. We took Tayshawn the year before,

831
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: but tay would have been could have put him in

832
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: perfect six man Swiss, he would do whatever, you know,

833
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: So I thought we was perfectly built to have Melo.

834
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: So what your starting lineup would have been if Mellow

835
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: would have came.

836
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: Mellow would have been at the three.

837
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 29: Obviously ripped myself being we didn't have shed at the

838
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 29: time that later season, yeah, during them by the end

839
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 29: of the season, So it would have been she been Mellow,

840
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 29: you and Rip with Tayshawn coming off the bench doing everything.

841
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 29: It would have been crazy. Here's the here's the interesting question.

842
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 29: I say this all the time. So if we do

843
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 29: get Mellow, when was Bron gonna ever takeover?

844
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: Because people forget Mellow was neck and neck with Bron rookie.

845
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: A hell of a rookie season. But now we're in

846
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: the same division.

847
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: But he has you, you have a he has a

848
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: way better support system with y'all.

849
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 29: That's what I'm saying now. Now he gonna get raised

850
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 29: right in the game, his whole five times, his whole

851
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 29: directory of his career changes every narrative on him, his legacy.

852
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 29: So I'm saying, bron is Broun and we all know

853
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 29: he's incredible on Mount Rushmore, But when was he ever

854
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 29: gonna beat and be better than y'all with Melow? You

855
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 29: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's a it's an

856
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 29: interesting question, yeah, Marry, but yeah, we all thought we was.

857
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: We all thought it was Mellow was taking Mellow.

858
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 29: Damn who was the gym at the time, Joe du

859
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 29: marsh Damn, Joe d d Yeah.

860
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes, tricky plays fuck up.

861
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 14: I guess go ahead, Jack, two thousand and four Finals,

862
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 14: the whole world say, y'all didn't have a shot.

863
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: No, y'all wasn't thinking that? What was that? What was

864
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 5: your train of thought?

865
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 29: We're here, it's funny, man, but we thought they didn't

866
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 29: have a shot, like for real though. It's not even

867
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 29: nothing cocky though, Like we was just we felt like

868
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 29: the way that they played and the way that we played,

869
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 29: we was a team dog like we knew that we

870
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 29: can't stop Cold, we can't stop shot them. They the

871
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 29: best two players in the whole series. But our game

872
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 29: plan was gonna be thorough, and we knew that they

873
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 29: couldn't stop picking rolls with me and they can't stop

874
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 29: ripping pen downs. So we knew that we had to

875
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 29: things that know way that they could stop it. We

876
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 29: can get a good shot anytime, and we knew we

877
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 29: was just gonna trap the hell out of Cold and

878
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 29: we was gonna play shocked straight up and try to

879
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 29: stay out of foul trouble. We was gonna be fine.

880
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 29: I really really felt like there was no way that

881
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 29: they could beat us in the series. I said it

882
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 29: and told my wife that before the series. She laughed

883
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 29: at me.

884
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: Damn.

885
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 29: She even laughed at me like, man, what, yeah, it's funny, we.

886
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: Can d Ham was sitting here earlier today and he

887
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: just said he felt like something was off with them,

888
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: a little bit between their big fit. They're big two,

889
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: and you guys seen it and just went to work

890
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: on it.

891
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 29: Yeah, we played into that, like for instance, like I'm

892
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 29: sitting there like, we know that we could beat them.

893
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 29: It wasn't a talent thing. We didn't have the best

894
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 29: talent in the series. We had the best team and

895
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 29: we did play on that. You know, at that time,

896
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 29: Cole had won finals MVP. It's always been Shocked. We

897
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 29: knew they had their little thing and we really played

898
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 29: into that. You know, we really did. Like we we

899
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 29: trapped Cold. Cod was really frustrated with us trapping him.

900
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 29: We played shocked man the man shot getting thirty five

901
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 29: and eighteen. But we're keeping them on the floor because

902
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 29: we going at you know what I'm saying, Like our

903
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 29: game plan was really good. It played to theay Psyche.

904
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 29: They didn't really let GP or Karl malon. They didn't

905
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 29: throw them the ball, they didn't let them do nothing.

906
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 29: You know what I mean. You know how the triangle was,

907
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 29: so we had to worry about Cold, worry about Shock

908
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 29: everybody else. We just stay close. They didn't have no freedom.

909
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 29: We just had too many weapons. We had too many weapons,

910
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 29: and we just had we played faster. We was just

911
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 29: a better basketball team.

912
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 14: You have a twenty one to five shot forty seven

913
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 14: from three and won to fin his MVP big shot,

914
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 14: she said, his whole life flash when the buzzer sounded.

915
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: Talk about that, knowing you a champion.

916
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, that was obviously my shining moment in my career.

917
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 29: She will say the same, Ripishitus. Everybody will say the same,

918
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 29: because that's how we played for, you know, for the win.

919
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 29: You know, that's how I grew up in the game.

920
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 29: Is you talk about going against other guys and competing

921
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 29: against other guys and all those names you listed. The

922
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 29: only thing as a point guard that matters is winning, right,

923
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 29: So if I win, say you got twenty eight and twelve,

924
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 29: I got eighteen and eleven, but I won. I want

925
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 29: to match up. That's how I'm built though, you know

926
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 29: what I mean. So, like, all I cared about was winning,

927
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 29: and I always felt like I could lead. I always

928
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 29: felt like I could be a great player, and so

929
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 29: in that moment, I validated that for not only for myself,

930
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 29: for everybody. So it was it was my shinning It

931
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 29: was my shinning moment. It was the best moment. You know,

932
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 29: my best sports moment in my life is being able

933
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 29: to win it. I didn't even care about the finals MVP.

934
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 29: I wasn't gunning for that. I just want to be aampion.

935
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 29: I wasn't gonna for that at all. I didn't care

936
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 29: about that I wanted to be a No, I didn't.

937
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 29: I didn't care about that. I want to be a champion.

938
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 29: So that was the That was the best feeling in

939
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 29: the world.

940
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 5: It was. It was the greatest, she say.

941
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 14: They stayed up and ring the dawn there all night,

942
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 14: back and forth all night, all night.

943
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 29: I still didn't drink. You know what's crazy is I

944
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 29: told the funniest thing I told. I promised she that

945
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 29: I would smoke with them, yeah if we won. And

946
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 29: I promised Ben and them that I drink.

947
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 5: Didn't do either.

948
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 29: So we won, right, I was like, I ain't doing

949
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 29: it because you know why, I don't want to forget

950
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 29: about nothing that happened tonight. You know what I'm saying,

951
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 29: I don't want to be too. I don't want to

952
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 29: be nothing somber. From until the next morning, was just

953
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 29: straight adrenaline, going hard, wat watching everybody be crazy, laughing

954
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 29: at everybody.

955
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Everyone welcome Kevin Garnett one and all.

956
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: You were able to help bring back the Celtics Laker rivalry.

957
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: You guys met in the finals. You guys got one,

958
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: they got one. Tell me what it was like going

959
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: against Shaq and Kobe with your squad before I got

960
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: to Boston. Now would battle the Lakers. It was always

961
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: the premier game. It was nothing less.

962
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 30: Playing shack was always entertaining, It was always hierarchy was

963
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 30: always it was always the pinnacle. Uh Cobe and I

964
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 30: knew each other. Shaq and I would befriend each other

965
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 30: and become friends later, but the match ups was always

966
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 30: high end. There was always electric. I was always felt

967
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 30: like I was under man So when I had perk,

968
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 30: who would who battle? Who would battle anybody and don't.

969
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: Care about anything.

970
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 30: Right, Shaq was in Cleveland as we was making our

971
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 30: runs and stuff, so I felt like this is a

972
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 30: great time to have redemption on that whole COVID shack

973
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 30: thing in the West. I felt like this was redemption

974
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 30: and now you know, they was kind of separated, so

975
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 30: that when I when I actually went up against both

976
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 30: of those guys, it felt like a payback for me.

977
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 30: But that ship won less than one, less than magical,

978
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 30: like epic, like not a lot of ship talking out here,

979
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 30: but it's a lot of buckets, it's a lot of

980
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 30: a lot of tapping, it's a.

981
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 8: Lot of you know, it's a lot of.

982
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 5: You better get over here, like yeah, you know.

983
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 30: What I'm saying, And there's a bunch of it now.

984
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 30: I ain't no switching. And it was win both ways.

985
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 30: Even though the big fellow was big and he knew

986
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 30: he was a house I told him when he came

987
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 30: out to Cleveland and I and the doctor was like, Yo,

988
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 30: I need you to guard a shock for like two minutes.

989
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 30: I was like, holy shit, guarding shack is like holding

990
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 30: up the side of a house shaw. I was trying

991
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 30: to see a wall in here, see a face of wall.

992
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 30: I can't even describe it. But I played Shock for

993
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 30: two minutes and couldn't give nobody no high five. I

994
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 30: was just like, arms was so tired, y'all.

995
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't.

996
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 30: Like if you slapped me, I would have to be like, yo,

997
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 30: you know what I'm saying. I couldn't even go. I

998
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 30: couldn't even protect myself. But playing those two brought the

999
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 30: best out of you every time you played them. Every

1000
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 30: time you played COVID was nothing shy or nothing, nothing

1001
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 30: less than the electric And it was all about wins.

1002
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: It was all about wins and rings.

1003
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 30: And when I got to Boston, it was just it

1004
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 30: was just just different times. But I've always enjoyed playing

1005
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 30: against those guys. There was always a challenge to play

1006
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 30: those guys, and it was always hard to get a

1007
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 30: win on them.

1008
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 22: You know what I'm saying straight up?

1009
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: So a Hall of Fame career, I mean, you'll be

1010
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: going inducted at twenty twenty. I mean, tell me what

1011
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: that kid from South Carolina that came up the way

1012
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: you came up Mom's working graveyard, you having to do

1013
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: what you have to do to everything. Twenty five years

1014
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: later you could be inbducted to the Hall of Fame.

1015
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Tell me what that feels like.

1016
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 30: I never thought that. I never really I never really

1017
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 30: cite my I really never put that on the goal,

1018
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 30: never put that on the paper. It was all about

1019
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 30: busting these guys they asked right here, crossing their name out.

1020
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 30: It was always about being the best in this right here,

1021
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 30: and putting your name at the top and that and

1022
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 30: that and that was it. I never really imagine taking

1023
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 30: this and being global. Never had a vision of that.

1024
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: I just wanted.

1025
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 30: To be able to have a list of motherfuckers that

1026
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 30: you thought was better than me, and I wanted to

1027
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 30: bust all the ass.

1028
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: And that was it.

1029
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: Co too, We talked a little kill list.

1030
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 15: What you're doing.

1031
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 30: Ain't got no vision who you chasing, who you being?

1032
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 30: Who the king in the mountain? Like right, that's what

1033
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 30: That's what competition is, Joe. It's about who's on king

1034
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 30: in the mountain, who's on top, and how and how

1035
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 30: you can take him off that or her, you know

1036
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 30: what I'm saying, like straight up. And then that's polishing

1037
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 30: your tools and at the same time pushing it. You know,

1038
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 30: you got to push this line of creativity, got to

1039
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 30: push the lines of competition. Gott to push this line

1040
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 30: of originality, you know, like for me, that that's everything.

1041
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: Welcome man, Rajon Rondou. What was it like?

1042
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned at the top of the show,

1043
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: you won a championship for the Boston Celtics. You want

1044
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: a championship for the Los Angeles Lakers. Has it kind

1045
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: of sunk in?

1046
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 7: Yet?

1047
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you still have more time And until I finished,

1048
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: I didn't really kind of look back at anything I

1049
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: had done. But has it kind of sunk in that

1050
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: you want a championship for the two greatest franchises in

1051
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: the sports history.

1052
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 18: It's definitely sunk in, but you know it's still being

1053
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 18: active right now. It's you know, my main focus is

1054
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 18: obviously now going into the season so quickly, is.

1055
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 31: The Hawks and helping us grow as much as possible.

1056
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: But you know, I see it.

1057
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 18: I hear it every day, understanding of what I've accomplished,

1058
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 18: but it still hasn't really hit it sunk in for

1059
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 18: the most part. But I'm definitely aware and grateful with

1060
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 18: the opportunity to be able to just play this game

1061
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 18: for so long and one or two more story franchise

1062
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 18: in history.

1063
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 31: It's definitely a blessing to do what I did in

1064
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 31: my career so far.

1065
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 14: What has it been like, you know, just just being

1066
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 14: you know, being a champion again, Like you know, I

1067
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 14: got a chance to experience mag got a chance to experience.

1068
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 14: But being able to be back at the tip, being

1069
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 14: at the mountain top twice, you know, how does that

1070
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 14: feel the second go around?

1071
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 5: For me?

1072
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 18: It's even better? You know you obviously guys, you saw it.

1073
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 18: It's a crazy quick story. When I won back in

1074
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 18: Oh wait E House Son Eddie House, Sun was always

1075
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 18: on the sidelines in a round, and you know, I

1076
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 18: was like, damn, that'd be dope, you know what I mean,

1077
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 18: Like if I had the opportunity to do the same thing,

1078
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 18: you know what I mean. So I wanted to, you know,

1079
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 18: I want the kids earlier I had kids. My son

1080
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 18: is nine now, and you know, for him to be

1081
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 18: able to become experienced in the bubble let alone. We

1082
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 18: wanted back last year when I hit the game, when

1083
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 18: I shot against the Celtics, he was there, you know,

1084
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 18: on the floor. So you know, for him to be

1085
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 18: able to experience that, you know, full circle like the manifested,

1086
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 18: you know, nine.

1087
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 31: Ten years later or twelve years later. Uh, you know,

1088
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 31: to come full circle.

1089
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 18: It was definitely a surreal moment to be able to

1090
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 18: have been there with me celebrating my second championship, So

1091
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 18: winning one at twenty twenty one now thirty four. You know,

1092
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 18: it's a big difference, you know, like I said, just

1093
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 18: having people around me that I love, being able to

1094
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 18: witness an experience that as well with me. So it's

1095
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 18: been a hell of a run. You know, leaving the

1096
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 18: bubble was it is, is what it is. But after leaving,

1097
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 18: you know, I enjoyed myself in a nice vacation. We

1098
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 18: celebrated with the team, We kicked it with you know,

1099
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 18: a couple of days and a couple of different cities

1100
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 18: and just enjoying life every moment.

1101
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 14: You gotta you gotta blow that picture up though, with

1102
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 14: you and your son on the court, that has to be. Yeah.

1103
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: And if you ever decided to drop an hour, if you.

1104
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 5: Ever drop a little like like like me did.

1105
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: A little quarantine, packed up songs, that gotta be.

1106
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 5: The cover that got.

1107
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was was a beautiful picture. It's funny you

1108
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: said that because that was my best experience. Obviously I

1109
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: got hurt going into the playoffs and and and and

1110
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: didn't play as much obviously as I'd want to, and

1111
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: when I won a championship, but the best thing was

1112
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: that the twins were there, so you know, Steve Kurr,

1113
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: let them fly on the plane, go to practice with us,

1114
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: be in the hotels, be in the locker room, be

1115
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and when we had an opportunity to

1116
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: win it, these two little dudes are up next to

1117
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Stephan Clay trying to hold the championship trophy and trying

1118
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: to get the m v P trophy from from from

1119
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: KD you know what I mean. So that was the

1120
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: best moment. That's still when I talk about it, what

1121
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: gives me it was about it is because that's something

1122
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: you can't pay for, that's something you can Unless you're

1123
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: in the moment, you'll never understand what it means to

1124
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: that kid's And a little side note, I think a

1125
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: great thing. He's your son at the same age the

1126
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: twins were when we won it, and I got them

1127
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: championship rings for Christmas and they lost their minds, so I.

1128
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: Know they may. They may replica little rings too. If

1129
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: you need an idea for a Christmas President, just want

1130
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: to throw that out there.

1131
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: Welcome JJ Reddick your three. You guys run into Lebron.

1132
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: You guys knock out the Celtics minus KG, knock out

1133
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: the reigning MVP Lebron James, and face Kobe and the

1134
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Lakers in the finals. What was that like being on

1135
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: that stage and only your thirty year removed from college, Man.

1136
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 32: Of the some of the best memories of my career,

1137
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 32: to be honest with you, and and that playoff run

1138
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 32: was really the turning point in my career because I

1139
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 32: came out of college with a lot of confidence and

1140
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 32: I got punched in the mouth my first two years.

1141
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 32: I really got punched in the mouth and to the

1142
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 32: point where you know that summer between my second and

1143
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 32: third year, I had to like reshape my body. I

1144
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 32: had to I had to basically redo my my sophomore

1145
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 32: in to junior year back at Duke all over again.

1146
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 32: And at that point, it was about survival and it

1147
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 32: was about sticking in the league. And I remember having

1148
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 32: conversations with my agent that summer like what would what

1149
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 32: would be options in Europe?

1150
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: Like how does how do how does it work in Russia?

1151
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 32: So that playoff run, you know, I was finally like

1152
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 32: a rotation player, but there were still some nights where.

1153
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: I got those d NP coaches decisions, you know, and

1154
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: and that playoff run.

1155
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 32: Courtney lee Uh broke his face in Game five against

1156
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 32: Philly in the first round. So I started Game six,

1157
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 32: which is was a closeout game in Philly on the road,

1158
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 32: and I hit five threes, played really well. Then I

1159
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 32: started the whole Boston series. I guarded ray Allen the

1160
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 32: whole series and.

1161
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: Then got to you know, we beat Cleveland.

1162
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 32: I got to play against Kobe in the finals, So

1163
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 32: you know that that to me gave me all the

1164
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 32: confidence like I belonged in the NBA. And I remember

1165
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 32: distinctly like feeling in the Boston Series, like okay, like

1166
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 32: this is it, Like this is what I've been after

1167
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 32: for three years. You know, We're in Boston and KG

1168
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 32: was hurt and he's fucking screaming at me the whole game,

1169
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 32: you know, just obscenities from the bench, and I'm like,

1170
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 32: this is what I want.

1171
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: This is what I want.

1172
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 32: You all the way over there on the other bench,

1173
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 32: you know, and a souon like I was for most

1174
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 32: of my first two years. So that playoff run was

1175
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 32: was life changing for me. And truthfully, like we all

1176
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 32: have Kobe stories, and I have, I have a couple,

1177
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 32: like more personal ones, but I'm like eighty, hopefully I'm

1178
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 32: still a live. But when I'm like eighty, I'm gonna

1179
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 32: tell my grandkids like I guarded Kobe Bryant in the

1180
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 32: NBA Finals and yes he got the best of me,

1181
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 32: but I had some stop I had some stops.

1182
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: Check now are you counting stuffs? When when when he

1183
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: passed the ball or you actually stopped him?

1184
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on, man, don't do that.

1185
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: So the following year, you guys, you guys, battle LA

1186
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: falls short to l A. The next season, myself and

1187
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Vince come we have a you know, a great season.

1188
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: You play all eighty two games. You know, you were

1189
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: one of our consistent guys night in night out. I've

1190
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: always kind of had a feeling of what happened, because

1191
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: you remember, if you remember j j As when we

1192
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: beat this ship out of Jack and Charlotte. We swept

1193
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: him and beat him by like thirty a game. And

1194
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: although Jack had a couple games where you got some points,

1195
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: we just Beau out of his team, beat the breaks off,

1196
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: and then we destroyed Atlanta and then correct me if

1197
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.

1198
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: It didn't.

1199
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 1: We go into the West Eastern Conference finals and Stan

1200
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: was on some ship like that.

1201
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: You know, this is a.

1202
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: Very you know, veteran driven team. We're gonna have to

1203
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: switch a little bit the offense something completely fucking give

1204
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: our offense the facelift or am I was I just

1205
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: smoking too much weed back then?

1206
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: I think you've always been smoking too much weed.

1207
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 32: First of all, Game four of the Charlotte series, we're

1208
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 32: up three to oh keep in mind, and it's like

1209
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 32: the second quarter and Jack makes a three and he's like,

1210
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 32: I'm still here.

1211
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm still fucking here.

1212
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 32: Going back down the court, I'm like, man, you're asked

1213
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 32: about to get swept. Man, shut up, Jack, Come on, man,

1214
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 32: you guys had no chance anyway.

1215
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: Anyway, He's right, right, so right, I.

1216
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: Thought, Matt.

1217
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 32: I thought twenty ten truthfully was the best team that

1218
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 32: should that was the best team I played on the NBA.

1219
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: Even though we made the finals of No.

1220
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 32: Nine, our twenty ten team was the best team I

1221
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 32: played on.

1222
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: Loaded man, most games up won in the NBA.

1223
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 32: We had a stretch where we were thirty three and

1224
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 32: eight to end the season, and then we went eight

1225
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 32: to zero in the playoffs. So we're going to that

1226
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 32: Boston series on a forty one and eight run.

1227
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: Beating the shit out of people. And I think, as.

1228
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 32: Often times happened with really really smart coaches and really

1229
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 32: detail oriented coaches is that they can get ahead of themselves.

1230
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 32: So they it was almost like Stan adjusted before the four.

1231
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: It needed to be made before we had to because

1232
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: then we beat up We in the season series. We

1233
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: beat them three to one, right if I'm not mistaken,

1234
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: And we played well against.

1235
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 32: Them, and so they you know it was you know,

1236
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 32: Timms was the defensive coordinator. It was all that strong

1237
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 32: side stuff, guy at the nail, weakside, pulling all the

1238
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 32: way over and Stan just felt like it wasn't in

1239
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 32: our best interest to run like a steady diet of

1240
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 32: high pick and rolls.

1241
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: So it was what we honested, like motion, but it was.

1242
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 32: Just more like side to side stuff and looking back,

1243
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 32: like that's how everybody plays now. But it was like

1244
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 32: an adjustment on the fly that we had to make,

1245
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 32: and it just, you know, I don't necessarily think that

1246
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 32: it fit all of our personnel, if that makes sense.

1247
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 32: Like for me, it was great because I was like, oh,

1248
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 32: I don't want to get in a wrestling match with

1249
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 32: Tony Allen, you know, in a half court setting, but

1250
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 32: if you get me on the move and the balls movement, okay,

1251
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 32: now I can attack a club and make a play.

1252
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 32: So it was a great series for me, but I

1253
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 32: think for a lot of our guys, we hadn't played

1254
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 32: that way the whole year.

1255
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: So we get down three to zero, we win a couple.

1256
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 32: Of games, and then we lose in game six, and

1257
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 32: you know, Matt, I mean, I know you ended up

1258
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 32: winning one in Golden State, but it's like, you know,

1259
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 32: for me, I didn't realize that was going to be

1260
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 32: my like, you know, ten years later, that was my

1261
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 32: last chance real chance that I've had.

1262
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm under the assumption, like, oh, no, we'll

1263
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: be back next year. We had I think we had

1264
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: the best team in the league this year. We'll be

1265
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: back next year.

1266
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 32: And then Lebron and Chris Bosh and d Wade go

1267
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 32: to Miami and then as they're transitioning out, all of

1268
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 32: a sudden, the Warriors come along. And so it's like

1269
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 32: those two years in Orlando where we had a legit

1270
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 32: chance to win, like that was.

1271
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: That window closed? That window it close fast, coach, and

1272
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: closed really fast.

1273
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: You know that.

1274
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: I always say that was one of the most talented teams.

1275
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: We had a legit ten guys that were ready to

1276
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: go to battle the war anytime we were too deep

1277
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: at every position. Stan was one of the best x

1278
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: and Os coaches I ever had. But I always felt like,

1279
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: and I remember when Shaq would say he would panic

1280
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: and get nervous, and I think you put it more elegantly. Obviously,

1281
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: I think he overthought the situation we were adjusting before

1282
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: we even got into the situation, you know. I mean,

1283
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: we had success against them in the regular season, and

1284
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: we overthought our situation and uh.

1285
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 32: Yeah, you know what was out and say though like Stan,

1286
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 32: like there's no there's no perfect coach. I think Stan

1287
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 32: probably had a bigger impact on my career than any

1288
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 32: coach I've played for Doc as well, because Doc was

1289
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 32: the first coach who who let me be, you know,

1290
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 32: who looked at me as a starter and gave me

1291
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 32: more of a role in an offense. But but Stan,

1292
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 32: you know, probably the best coaches I played for in

1293
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 32: the NBA, you know, and and and I I hate that.

1294
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 32: I hate that Shack had to say that about him,

1295
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 32: or you know that we have to sit here and

1296
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 32: talk about this, because I always did. I always felt

1297
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 32: like in a playoff series, I felt like Stan was

1298
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 32: gonna get us a win, Like he was going he

1299
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 32: was gonna make an adjustment or come up with a

1300
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 32: game plan in game three or game four, or even

1301
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 32: steal one in game one, like I'm gonna do this

1302
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 32: and they're not expecting it.

1303
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: And and it worked a lot of the time.

1304
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 32: And he would always get us a game just because

1305
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 32: you know, he was so prepared and he worked so hard,

1306
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 32: he took such responsibility on what he could control, and

1307
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 32: and he was.

1308
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: Great for that.

1309
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: His attention to detail, I've know, second to none. As

1310
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: far as coaches, he was the Only thing I didn't

1311
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: like about stan was our fucking taped tape shoot arounds

1312
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: with knee pads. I'm like, Damn, Stanley, can't cruise like

1313
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: we had real Like, Bro, we were taped with knee pad.

1314
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot around. It was unbelievable.

1315
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: Hey, JJ, what was Matt like as a teammate?

1316
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 32: I mean, that's just the same guy I'm talking to

1317
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 32: right now. You know, this is what I was talking

1318
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 32: earlier about your reputation. Like when people asked me, like,

1319
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 32: who are the best teammates you've had in your career,

1320
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 32: I'm like, Matt Barnes is definitely one of them. He

1321
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 32: was a great teammate. I think, you know, I saw

1322
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 32: this in Orlando, but it was a different group when

1323
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 32: I got to La. The way that him and DJ

1324
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 32: brought everybody together, Like if you were the fifteenth guy

1325
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 32: on that team, you felt like you were part of

1326
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 32: that team.

1327
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 14: It did.

1328
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 32: There was no there was no like status on the

1329
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 32: team plane or status in the locker room. Like they

1330
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 32: just had an amazing way of making every guy in

1331
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 32: that team feel feel special. And that was I mean,

1332
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 32: that was that's rare. Man that just doesn't happen a

1333
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 32: ton in the NBA. And truthfully, like that was a

1334
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 32: lesson that I learned, and I've taken that with me

1335
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 32: now as I've gotten older, and you know, it's done

1336
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 32: the mentor thing like it's important to just involve everybody

1337
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 32: because you know, we get so caught up throughout a season,

1338
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 32: like about what's going on with me, what's going on

1339
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 32: with me, I'm playing well, I'm playing bad, whatever, And

1340
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 32: you got to keep in mind like there's there's three

1341
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 32: or four guys every night that leave that arena.

1342
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: Pissed, Yeah, pissed because they.

1343
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 32: Didn't play, or they were they were in a suit,

1344
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 32: or you know, they got their run in the first

1345
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 32: half but didn't get their run in the second half.

1346
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 32: And so you know, doing the check in with those guys,

1347
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 32: man is important, and I think DJ and Matt were

1348
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 32: always were always great about that.

1349
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: Coming to you from Dallas, set the tone with with

1350
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: the boss man, mister Mark Cuban, And now we got

1351
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: one of the greatest to ever do it.

1352
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: Jack.

1353
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: You guys pushed me to be better a little bit

1354
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: with my back to the basket. You know that was

1355
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned it earlier. I always liked to face, select

1356
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: to drive and then spend. It was just a little

1357
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 3: too predictable. So you know, I said, you'd have to add.

1358
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: You have to add more to you game. You have

1359
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: to work hard the summer and be a better be

1360
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: a better leader and more complete players. So I got

1361
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: a lot more comfortable, you know, posting up then, and

1362
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: even if it was free throw line or or down

1363
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: the box, and I would never even still then I

1364
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: would not.

1365
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 8: Out muscle you and get to the basket.

1366
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: But I was more comfortable there operating in that area

1367
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: and shooting over smaller guys, shooting fadeaways. And then one

1368
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: legger came and so I think, yeah, you guys forced

1369
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: me to get back in the lab and and get

1370
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: better and push and and I always say, without the

1371
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: disappointments in O six and O seven, I wouldn't have

1372
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 3: been the closer and eleven, I think that's that's very true.

1373
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: You know, you have to go through tough times and

1374
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: and and learn from from some tough mistakes and and

1375
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: and get better.

1376
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 8: And so that was you guys pushed me to be

1377
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 8: to be better.

1378
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: So eight and ten, you guys are building you bringing

1379
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd tricks Sean Mary and Pasia Karan who doesn't

1380
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: help you get down this front because he gets hurt,

1381
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: but with a big piece Rick Carlisle as well. What

1382
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: are all those pieces being to you?

1383
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: So actually when we made I was like, okay, it

1384
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: was seven, we still had the best team going to

1385
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: A eight. We lose to you guys, but we're we

1386
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: won sixty seven games, we're straight, we're good. And then

1387
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: the oait season started and stuff is just not going

1388
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: that well, and it actually shows don't take stuff for granted. Man,

1389
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes things can change in a heartbeat within one season.

1390
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: You know, all of a sudden, we're not right there anymore.

1391
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: We're not with the best team. All of a sudden,

1392
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: teams have passed us by. And then our window from

1393
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: six and seven all of a sudden looked closed. And

1394
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: so things were going well at all in the wait season,

1395
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: and then we.

1396
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 8: Did the trade at all set game for Jake Kidd.

1397
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 8: We felt like his leadership is is.

1398
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: You know, like I mentioned earlier, weren't great passing, We

1399
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: were on great great playmaking. We had some good scores

1400
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: at the guards, but not not getting everybody involved playmakers.

1401
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: And so we made the deal for j kid at

1402
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: the All Set game and and that didn't pan out

1403
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: that way we wanted to at the beginning either. So

1404
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: they're in O eight to ten. There was there were

1405
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: a lot of changes. You know, we still had Avery

1406
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: when uh, when Jay Kidd first came, and then you know,

1407
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 3: Carla took over, I believe in the eight or nine season.

1408
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: Then we did the big trade with with Washington to

1409
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 3: bring in Haywood d Steve who was crazy and uh

1410
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: and uh of course Karan and so they fit in well,

1411
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you know, there the windows

1412
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: open again.

1413
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 8: We felt like we had a good team. We had some.

1414
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: Veterans and yeah, and going into that you know, ten

1415
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: to eleven season, we felt like we had a good team.

1416
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: I don't think we were necessarily favorites, but we felt

1417
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: like we had some veterans.

1418
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 8: And we had a good start to the season.

1419
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: And then I got hurt right around Christmas time, and

1420
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: then so I was out. I was hurt, and then

1421
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: New Year's Day, I'll never forget. We're in Milwaukee, that's

1422
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: where Karan is from, and I'm sitting out in a

1423
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: suit because I'm not playing, and Karan goes up for

1424
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: a rebound and just screams and lays on the ground

1425
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: and I'm so, we're all rushing over there, and I

1426
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: see literally he tore his patel attendant and his his

1427
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: kneecap had dislocated, so it sat it sat up top

1428
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: on his skigh. I'm like, I'm trying to dry heath.

1429
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 8: It was.

1430
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: It was nasty, and so our trainer was like, oh

1431
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: my god, we need wheelchair. Wheelchair And that was one

1432
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: of the toughest things I was saying. I mean, Kuran

1433
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: is pretty tough. So he heard wheelchair and he's from Wisconsin.

1434
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: His grandmother was there, his family. He's like, I'm not

1435
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm not getting out of here in a wheelchair.

1436
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 5: So he's like I.

1437
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: Watched him push his kneecap down by himself, and he

1438
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: gets up and starts hoping. You know how in the

1439
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 3: old Milwaukee arena that was to go back to the

1440
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: locker room and he walked that on his own power.

1441
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 8: I said, this, this guy, this guy is.

1442
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: Built different and U but then you know, here we

1443
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: go again. We think in our our windows closing, you know,

1444
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: losing up. He was probably our second best scar. I

1445
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: think he was our second best scorer that year, and

1446
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: so we're like, oh god, here it goes again. Right,

1447
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of bad luck. And but I

1448
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: would say that he he motivated us, inspired us the

1449
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: way he wanted to come back and fought and attacked rehab.

1450
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean he was almost ready to play in that

1451
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: in that final series in eleven, I mean he was.

1452
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 8: He was a beast.

1453
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: And every day watching him, how he how he handled himself,

1454
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: how he attacked that rehab, that that really motivated us,

1455
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,959
Speaker 3: and that that inspired us for that ten to eleven run.

1456
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 14: Blazers Lakers, Okay see Miami twenty eight points. We gained

1457
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 14: forty nine percent field goal, forty six throw line gee Woolakers.

1458
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: Took down Kobe kat and Lebron. We call that as

1459
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, on one, he was definitely on one. What

1460
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: mind frame will you win?

1461
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: We had a good run, you know, I started, We

1462
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: started against Portland.

1463
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 8: They they gave us some problems, you.

1464
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: Know that Mary b roy Still they had they had

1465
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: a good team, they were they were smart. Uh, And

1466
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: so we didn't play the well there. We almost lost

1467
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: one at home, and I took us, we get took

1468
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: us well to get going. And then I felt like

1469
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: we lost both both games in Portland, and it was

1470
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 3: it was too too coming back here. And that's still

1471
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: I remember to this day. I was like, we're not

1472
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: going to lose to them. We're not going to lose

1473
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: Game five on our home court. And I don't know

1474
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 3: why I said that to I usually don't say much

1475
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: in the team meetings and stuff. I'm a quiet guy.

1476
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: Let the coaches do their thing. But that day, I'm like,

1477
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: even in the pregame meeting, I was like, there, they're

1478
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: not beating us.

1479
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 8: Where we got that.

1480
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 14: You know what they do your teammate to hear Dirk

1481
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 14: say that, you just in the back of the locker room.

1482
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 5: Quill, No, they ain't beating us today.

1483
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, everybody.

1484
01:06:59,480 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1485
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 8: I just felt that.

1486
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: I just felt that because in Game four we were

1487
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: up like twenty and b Roy made that magical run

1488
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: and they beat us, and I just had that that's

1489
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 3: not going to happen again. And so and then from

1490
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 3: there we started a roll. We started a roll. We

1491
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: won game five at home, beat them in game six,

1492
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: went straight down to LA and stole a miracle Game

1493
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: one where Kobe was like hot at like forty I

1494
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: think it could seem like he couldn't miss, and we

1495
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 3: basically stole that one at the buzzer and from there,

1496
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, we just we just got confidence was

1497
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: getting better, and we had the roles were defined perfectly right.

1498
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: You had you had Tricks and Kid and Tyson they

1499
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: were the defenders right on offense, we knew Jet and

1500
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: I and JJ we were going to wheel and deal

1501
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: and do our thing, and obviously we had some shooters,

1502
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: but I felt like we're our roles were perfectly defined,

1503
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: and we had, you know, a great bench that we

1504
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 3: can change the tempo a little bit. So uh yeah,

1505
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was just a magical time. We

1506
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: had Paga that we signed somewhere in February, I think

1507
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: we got bought out in Toronto and we took a

1508
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: chance on it. He did look like he could play

1509
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: with his back, and he rehab for two three months

1510
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 3: every day and then gave us unbelievable roun there, made

1511
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: some huge shots in the Lakers and Okay Ce series,

1512
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: and so everything that we did that year kind of

1513
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: panned out, and I know it's fortunate.

1514
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 8: I guess.

1515
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Mark Cuban.

1516
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: A lot of tough stuff happening on that journey to

1517
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. To me, that was one of the greatest

1518
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: journeys to get there beat a lot of good teams.

1519
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that journey. You guys end up

1520
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: beating the Big three with Brondy, Wade and Bosh. But

1521
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,520
Speaker 1: that was a hell of a row. It was incredible.

1522
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 21: Like we started that season like twenty nine and five,

1523
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 21: nobody was beating us. Then then what's his name Koran

1524
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 21: got hurt and Koran was our number two score, and

1525
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 21: then Son we didn't have a score a second score,

1526
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 21: and then Dirk gets hurt and we go on this

1527
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 21: road trip in like January and lose six in row

1528
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 21: and get abliterated. So as we had no Kuran, even

1529
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 21: Roddy Bouboy, who's a guy who is really coming on,

1530
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 21: was hurt, and so we were struggling. And we get

1531
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 21: to the playoffs and literally, you know, we were playing

1532
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 21: Portland and it was they were favored over us and

1533
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 21: we were the higher seed. And so we were playing

1534
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 21: playing LaMarcus and Brandon Roy and that crew, and we

1535
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 21: win the first two games. Here we go up twenty

1536
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 21: something there in the third game and Brandon Roy puts

1537
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 21: on the last show he ever put on. I mean,

1538
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 21: the dude was super skilled, but you know, with his

1539
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 21: knees and just comes back and beats a single handily and.

1540
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 25: We lose.

1541
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 21: I think we lose the next game and then come

1542
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 21: back and fortunately close it out. But that having our

1543
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 21: you know, just being destroyed like that by Portland instead

1544
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 21: of putting us down really like had it helped us

1545
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 21: figure it out and I think we wore them down,

1546
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 21: won that series.

1547
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: Goes smacked us, Yes, swept us, beat the dogs out

1548
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: of us.

1549
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 25: That was insane because I remember sitting there going.

1550
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh, Lakers back to back, back to backs.

1551
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 25: And everybody, no one gave us a chance.

1552
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 21: And so we go there and playing in in your

1553
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 21: court and you no where did it open up?

1554
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: We were the highest?

1555
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1556
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 21: So we played here first and had to come from

1557
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 21: behind twice, right, and came from behind. And then we

1558
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 21: go there and.

1559
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 25: What was that?

1560
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 21: That was the the Corey Brewer game I think where

1561
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 21: we were down like fifteen and Corey Brewer just went

1562
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 21: off and no, no, we started there because we closed it.

1563
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 25: We closed yeah final JJ.

1564
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 21: Yeah. So we go there and we come down from

1565
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 21: behind both games, and as I'm walking out, I go

1566
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 21: to Jack Nicholson, who sits right by the visitors, like

1567
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 21: you need tickets or anything, and Dallas, you just let

1568
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 21: me know. He goes, we're coming back. Don't worry about it.

1569
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 21: I'll see you back here. Then we get to game four,

1570
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 21: we win game through, get to game four and we

1571
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 21: can't miss. We're up like twenty something.

1572
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: That half to like nine in the first half.

1573
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 21: And I told my buddy, you sits next to me,

1574
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 21: he's always sat next month, like, if you touch me

1575
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 21: and wake me up out of this ship, I'm going

1576
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 21: to beat the ship out of you because this is

1577
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 21: a dream.

1578
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 25: And I don't want to wake up.

1579
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 21: And then buying them towards the end, right, And then

1580
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 21: Jerry West even called me after that and he goes,

1581
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 21: you know that's just not you know, Laker basketball, right,

1582
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 21: it HAPs like yeah, and JD doesn't care.

1583
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 8: JJ is tough dude.

1584
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: And then a young OKC and when we.

1585
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 21: Went that whole crew kind of like the Clippers, this

1586
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 21: year's Clipper team back then except for Kad right, and

1587
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 21: they were they were squad.

1588
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 25: But they beat us the first game, I think, and

1589
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 25: then we won the rest.

1590
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then in that finals, what did Tyson say,

1591
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: someone hit the shot in front of d Wade hit

1592
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: the shot in front of the bench and kind of

1593
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: rubbed it in, and then.

1594
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 25: You got fifteen. Yeah that and he looks at us

1595
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 25: and you know, he does this and this and all

1596
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 25: this ship and she turned on the light.

1597
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 7: No.

1598
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 25: And then what people don't know.

1599
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 21: Is like that they won the first game, and then

1600
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 21: that second game when we're in Miami halftime, that's the

1601
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 21: same game. They're up whatever fifteen or whatever. And what's

1602
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 21: his name? Oh my god, I'm facing fucking the GM.

1603
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 21: Pat Riley Kim pat Riley says to me at halftime,

1604
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 21: is I'm walking through because you know you had to

1605
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 21: walk through it the middle park right there.

1606
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 25: He goes, not long enough, not strong enough.

1607
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: Mark, they said to you, We're just too quick and

1608
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: too long.

1609
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 21: I'm like, I didn't say anything bad. It's pat Riley, right,

1610
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 21: I'm not going to disrespect him. I'm like, okay. And

1611
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 21: then we come back.

1612
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: And damn interesting.

1613
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 8: Yeah interesting, sweet?

1614
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 2: It was nice.

1615
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 25: And then cool part because Mickey Errans is cool too.

1616
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 25: I like Mickey a lot.

1617
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 21: And he goes, you know, we close it out and

1618
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 21: we're getting the trophy down in Miami and I see

1619
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 21: Mickey shakes my hand. He goes, Oh, the irony, right,

1620
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 21: because we were supposed to be supposed to bet him

1621
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 21: two thousand and six and then they were supposed to

1622
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 21: kill us in twenty eleven.

1623
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: Crazy how that works.

1624
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: Obviously, a ton of accomplishments in the business world. Lord,

1625
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: does that eleven championship rank for you?

1626
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 21: Oh, I've got Larry O'Brien in my office. They in

1627
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 21: the face every single day, right, you know. The good

1628
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 21: news is it was amazing. The bad news is it's

1629
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 21: been twelve years.

1630
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 25: Right, you know, and so.

1631
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 33: You know it's like, yeah, I went out with the

1632
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 33: hottest girl in high school, right, That don't do any

1633
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 33: good anymore? Right, So, so now it's frustrating, but I

1634
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 33: think we're on a good path here.

1635
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 5: Man.

1636
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1637
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: NBA VET and World Champion Edonna's has one. When we

1638
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: get to twenty thirteen, the NBA Finals against the San

1639
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs epic series, looking back on that, now, what

1640
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: stood out the most to you?

1641
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 10: Oh?

1642
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 22: Man, pop, Man Pop pops amazing. That's not a take.

1643
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 34: That's not to take nothing away from their talent, but damn, man,

1644
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 34: Pop's amazing. You know what I'm saying, you know, I know,

1645
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 34: you know, you know. I don't know if in this

1646
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 34: league how to work, how it work. You're supposed to

1647
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 34: give shout out to other coaches if.

1648
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 22: You ain't playing farm.

1649
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 34: I don't know how that shit work. But we on

1650
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 34: all the smokes, so we make y'all boys make the rules.

1651
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 34: Y'all boys make the rules.

1652
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 22: I ain't no TNT or none of that.

1653
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 2: You all good, You all rules Pop Pops.

1654
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 34: Pop's amazing, man, and I've always had great admiration for

1655
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 34: the way he's been able to not just coach a

1656
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 34: game of basketball, but man, it's just players in the personality.

1657
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 22: Man, this dude. The dudes love him, you know what

1658
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 22: I'm saying.

1659
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 34: And I've always been amazed by the way Pop Pop

1660
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 34: has been able to manage all of that and translate

1661
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 34: that ship also into winning, yep, because none of that

1662
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 34: shit matters if you don't win, don't matter if your

1663
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 34: team like you, it don't matter, none of that ship

1664
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 34: if you ain't winning, you know what I'm saying. So

1665
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 34: I've always been amazed with what Pop been able to do.

1666
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 34: So you know, just the first thing that stands out

1667
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 34: in that series is just a ball movement, man, and

1668
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 34: just how Pop had the motherfucker's prime. You know what

1669
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 34: I'm saying. They ready and it's just like a well

1670
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 34: or machine out there. You know what I'm saying, Ain't

1671
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 34: no hiccups, ain't no speed bumps.

1672
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 22: That ship running.

1673
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 5: Everybody buying in.

1674
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, everybody buying in.

1675
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: But Jack, you were supposed to or should have been

1676
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: playing in that final, so I'm not mistaken, right, tell us, uh,

1677
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: tell us your t max story during that time.

1678
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would probably got that rebound. I all to

1679
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 14: block the ship out of that week ass three race shot.

1680
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 14: But hey, but I was. I was supposed to be

1681
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 14: on the team, and Pop cut me right for the playoffs. Man,

1682
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 14: he cut me right for the playoffs. He put me

1683
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 14: in the position. Pop one of the smartest people I

1684
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 14: even know. He put me in a position to where

1685
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 14: he knew I was gonna respond to where I was

1686
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 14: gonna se off the team. Yeah, he knew that. He

1687
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 14: knew I was gonna cut myself. You asked me to

1688
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 14: say somebody better than me, fuck you and everybody around you.

1689
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 14: That's gonna be my response to anybody. Okay, I ain't

1690
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 14: never say that ship. I ain't say that ship like

1691
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 14: that to nobody, and Pop knew but they but but

1692
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 14: but before he even asked me that question, they had

1693
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 14: Tracey McGrady already on the plane on the plane already

1694
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 14: in town, so they knew what they was doing. And

1695
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 14: that's why they had lost to y'all because the real

1696
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 14: nigga wasn't not there out there to get the rebound.

1697
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 7: And that's what happened.

1698
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 14: Brouse, Why was my boy where he needed a real

1699
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 14: one on.

1700
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: The side of him.

1701
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 14: But Nah, all boys should decided that I was supposed

1702
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 14: to be on that team. Man, it would have been

1703
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 14: great to be in the finals again, to play against

1704
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 14: y'all in that finals.

1705
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: That was a good series. Yeah, you would.

1706
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 22: You would have loved that.

1707
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1708
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 34: It would have been a hell of an environment and

1709
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 34: we would have been able to hang out while you

1710
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 34: was down.

1711
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 22: He would have been no COVID boy.

1712
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 27: And the finals in Miami with U d shit.

1713
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 22: Definitely, we'd have definitely been able to do something.

1714
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: Definitely did do something.

1715
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 34: Everybody had been on the South Beach, we would have

1716
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 34: been on.

1717
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 22: The other side there was that where you was at

1718
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 22: where we was on the other.

1719
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 5: Side of the We don't know nothing about that.

1720
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 22: Y'all can have that beat ship.

1721
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 5: We don't want none of that, yes.

1722
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: Sir, Hey, So game six, the Spurs have the title

1723
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: in hand and can't secure rebound. Ray hits that shot.

1724
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: Take us back to that night and how that juve

1725
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, reduced you guys for game seven.

1726
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 22: Once again, I wasn't even playing that serious.

1727
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 34: So I had front row seats to that whole goddamn

1728
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 34: game and that shot from Ray. Man, I just remember

1729
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 34: sitting over there and they bringing them damn them, damn

1730
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 34: rope stop and I'm saying, I'm saying, yo that I'm saying,

1731
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 34: I'm like, I'm in disbelief, Like I'm looking at this

1732
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 34: ship like.

1733
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 22: In our own city again. The marriage got us like

1734
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 22: that before.

1735
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 34: Man, man, man, it's like they done came in the

1736
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 34: house and took our food and walked out. This motherfucker. Man,

1737
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 34: I'm it just you couldn't have told me that we.

1738
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 22: Were gonna win again.

1739
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,879
Speaker 34: And yeah when that well, see we got that rebound

1740
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 34: the way the angle that I had, I was directly

1741
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 34: on the other side of the shot from Ray and

1742
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 34: when I saw Ray let that motherfucker go, I.

1743
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 5: Knew it was good. Room. You can't get no room. Man.

1744
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 22: People don't know you watch Ray.

1745
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 34: He do some drills when he lay down on his

1746
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 34: back like he taking a nap, and jump up and

1747
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 34: run to the corner and shoot that motherfucker.

1748
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1749
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 22: Ray be practicing all kinds of shit.

1750
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 34: He'll sit down Indian style and run to the three

1751
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 34: point line and shoot.

1752
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 22: He do all kinds of little drills like that.

1753
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 34: So for him, the backpay don't get to that three

1754
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 34: point line and know where that line at.

1755
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 22: He practiced that every day. That's that's a mental exercise

1756
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 22: that he go through.

1757
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 14: That's one person I used to always try to lock

1758
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 14: up brother when let me tell you one thing I

1759
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 14: used to hate with Ray. When he got the ball,

1760
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 14: I'm like, oh yeah, I'm good money. But as soon

1761
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 14: as I see a screen or two and I got

1762
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 14: to chase him off the screen, you think you own him,

1763
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 14: you think you're right there on him.

1764
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 27: But as soon as he get them feet set, bro,

1765
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 27: that's your ass man.

1766
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 22: Listen.

1767
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 34: Part of Boston offense, I guess us was the god

1768
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 34: Damn d Wade chasing Ray Man.

1769
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 5: They know that they.

1770
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 34: Man, they had Ray running all the rady, God damn

1771
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 34: caught the way like man, that was part of the

1772
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 34: goddamn offense for Boston, just to run his ass to

1773
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 34: get him tied.

1774
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, So you guys are able to come back,

1775
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: get that game and winning game seven to go back

1776
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: to back. What does it feel like to be back

1777
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: to back champs, something that rarely happens.

1778
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 34: I don't think we appreciated the way we should have,

1779
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 34: you know, the whole run, you know what I'm saying,

1780
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 34: And that's just the gods don the truth, you know

1781
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 34: what I'm saying. The team that we had, the run

1782
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 34: that we had, the success that we had. That's not

1783
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 34: to say that we didn't appreciate it at all, but

1784
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 34: that amount of success in that short period of time,

1785
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 34: four straight finals, you know what I'm saying.

1786
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 22: I don't think we appreciated the way we thought the

1787
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 22: way we should have.

1788
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 34: I think we got to the point where we thought

1789
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 34: we were just gonna do that ship every year, you

1790
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 34: know what I'm saying. It was just like it was

1791
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 34: just expected that we were just gonna keep going back

1792
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 34: to the finals, and we're just gonna stay together, and

1793
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 34: we're gonna stay healthy and it ain't gonna never break up.

1794
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 34: And I think I think that was. That was probably

1795
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 34: a mistake. We should have probably just you know, probably

1796
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 34: you know, loved it a little more, you know what

1797
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 34: I'm saying, especially when you look, yeah, enjoyed the process. Man,

1798
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 34: We just focused on working, work and working, and next

1799
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 34: year we're gonna do it again. And this, that and

1800
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 34: the third. I think we never really took time to

1801
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 34: enjoy it. I think everybody had. You know, you had

1802
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 34: your one little party, you how your parade, and then

1803
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 34: you think you're gonna do it again, and it's just

1804
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 34: that's not reality, you know what I'm saying. It's not

1805
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 34: reality to think that you're just gonna keep going back

1806
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 34: to the finals and just.

1807
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 22: Doing it again.

1808
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 34: I think we really should have took time to understand

1809
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 34: the position that we was in as a team, you know,

1810
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 34: as a group, you know, as a coaching staff, organization, everything,

1811
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 34: and that was something special that we was able to do.

1812
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: Man.

1813
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 34: And you know, Golden State obviously came in and they

1814
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 34: had their run and they duplicated and they took it

1815
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 34: even further and did what they was able to do.

1816
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 34: But anybody that's been a part of runs like that,

1817
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 34: you understand how special that is, especially once you get

1818
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 34: towards the latter part of your career and you start

1819
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 34: to get you know, started to see yourself walking away

1820
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 34: from this man that's a team and a situation.

1821
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 22: And a run that will always be remembered and always

1822
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 22: talked about.

1823
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 5: Man.

1824
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 14: Welcome to the show, dann Ingratiation. Just go back to time,

1825
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 14: Tony Yo, we was teammates briefly. Was that the year

1826
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 14: that they got you out of there and abought teammates?

1827
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 27: First first we lost in the Western Conference finals.

1828
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 13: I had Jack, So Jack came at the end of

1829
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 13: the year that year, and then he came through for

1830
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 13: like a year.

1831
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 24: So he came in the year and he came, he

1832
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 24: came in.

1833
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 27: Let him well, I came into thirteen.

1834
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: Okay.

1835
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 14: In the thirteen we los in the Western Conference finals. Okay,

1836
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 14: come back in fourteen and right before the playoffs, pop cup,

1837
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 14: Pop cut me for.

1838
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 35: Trace McGrady, Yes and so, and they ain't played. Tracy,

1839
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 35: you came, you came twelve twelve. Twe twelve thirteen, We

1840
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 35: went to the finals. We lost the West const Finals

1841
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 35: in twelve okay, so yes, so twelve you came in,

1842
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 35: they let you go. Thirteen thirteen four we got there, Okay, yeah,

1843
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 35: and y'all won in thirteen, right, we lost in thir thirteen.

1844
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, supposed to be team I was supposed.

1845
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 24: To be on Mac was with us. Is his first time.

1846
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 5: I would have got out of the first rebound in

1847
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 5: game six. I would have got the fucking rebound.

1848
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 14: I was damn ray down Show wouldn't have got it

1849
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 14: if anybody would it. I mean, he wouldn't have got

1850
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 14: to shot off for none of that. He wouldn't have

1851
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 14: been involved because you know I take that shit personal him.

1852
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 14: But look, I would have got that got that watch.

1853
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 14: We played a lot together. Though we played a lot together.

1854
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 14: When I did play, we did, and I would I

1855
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 14: would have been Bars. I would have been Bars. Yeah,

1856
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 14: I would have been Bars going to switch or somebody.

1857
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 14: We didn't switch right here, so this is why Chris

1858
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 14: got the rebound.

1859
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 5: I would have been Bars.

1860
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 13: There was no switch here. But my question is they

1861
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 13: wanted to switch everything.

1862
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 5: Barsh is one of the best players, the most played.

1863
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 13: Very good, but we went smaller because they were trying

1864
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 13: to get a three, so they wanted to switch everything,

1865
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 13: so we had Timmy off the floor.

1866
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 5: Five would have got that rebound. I'm telling you we

1867
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 5: wasn't switching that.

1868
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 13: We did miss two free throws and the play the

1869
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 13: possession before Bron hit a three the possession before you

1870
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 13: weren't there, but that play was played over over over

1871
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 13: over the following your film room, because that's where my

1872
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 13: mistake was the most because the year before you were

1873
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 13: there with us. Yeah, maybe you can give me you

1874
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 13: can test this. We were contesting and if we tested,

1875
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 13: they take off. Oh they changed that on you though,

1876
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 13: huh right after this year take off?

1877
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 14: This year take off, because if we weren't getting to

1878
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 14: be found with him down there was getting all take off.

1879
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 13: If you can test, go so to play before this

1880
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 13: Bron he missed, took one, missed it. I can test

1881
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 13: the first one. I'm trickling out toward half because my

1882
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 13: natural habit was to start leaning to take off. They

1883
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 13: get another rebound and kick it back to Bron and

1884
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 13: he hits it. I think went off the off the

1885
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 13: backboard at the big shot. He kept rewinding that ship.

1886
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 13: Where the fuck are you going?

1887
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 5: Where the gonna do that?

1888
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 13: He took that right out. There was no more leaking

1889
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 13: out that.

1890
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 5: It was no more.

1891
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 14: But you know, the older, the older tim got, they

1892
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 14: probably start taking it out because at one point, it

1893
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 14: don't make.

1894
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: No sense to going in the key, tim getting all

1895
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: that ship everything.

1896
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 5: Bro.

1897
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 13: Yeah he was Timmy was great. I can test the

1898
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 13: first one. I'm leaning to our half and I'm ready.

1899
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 13: It'll be like, all right rebound, we would have been out.

1900
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: But it was like it goes off the glass.

1901
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 24: The second rebound three ball. It's hard to watch.

1902
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 13: But said that film session the following year, because Pop

1903
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 13: always does every following year. He watches the previous and

1904
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 13: we had the same group together for a long time.

1905
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 13: He watched the last series or last game.

1906
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 5: I probably watched that just as much as you do.

1907
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 24: He was rewinding and rewinding my seven bars.

1908
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 13: And but the craziest part is this part here five

1909
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 13: seconds they stopped the clock. They stopped, they called, they stopped,

1910
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 13: They took the ball to boards and we're trying to go.

1911
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 13: So Pop was going ape ship.

1912
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: Look at him. What's Joey Carford doing? Point shaving.

1913
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, it took them because we're trying to get and go.

1914
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 13: They's celebrating. We could have get we go, get a

1915
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 13: layup or a basket. At this point, Tony's like, get

1916
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 13: it out. Tony would have been gone five seconds. What

1917
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 13: we're gonna get a look.

1918
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Now they get a chance to review it, to get

1919
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: a chance.

1920
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 24: To see if it's a two or three, they get

1921
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 24: a time out.

1922
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: Joey every I was with the Spurs.

1923
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 5: I made it at least the Winstert Conference finals, at least.

1924
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 13: What we were spoiled, bro at least we were spoiled,

1925
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 13: I was like them.

1926
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 24: And then after that we ain't been back.

1927
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 13: We had been after fourteen with the first round against goals,

1928
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 13: I think Kwihar at the ankle. We had a couple

1929
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 13: were Clippers, CP got the game. Yes, that's your old

1930
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 13: States championship. It was a couple of times. We never

1931
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 13: have been back to the Western count finals, like damn.

1932
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 13: So when I got back to Toronto, I was like,

1933
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 13: you know, I'm enjoyed this. We ain't been back here

1934
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 13: in a minute. And to realize how how hard it

1935
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 13: was to get back there.

1936
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: I like to introduce my home boy, our home boy,

1937
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. But talk to us about on the court,

1938
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: because that was your guys.

1939
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1940
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: You guys met them in the finals consistently, and you

1941
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: know you possibly you tell me it could have been

1942
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: obviously a three peat. You don't get kicked out of

1943
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: the series. Was that was that sixteen?

1944
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1945
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: Sixteen, right, you know what I mean? So talk to

1946
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: us about what stood out the most about going up

1947
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: against him and Kyrie and in those battles.

1948
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 20: I think, well, first off, I'll just speak on him

1949
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 20: and Kyrie and their thing, Like I think they kind

1950
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 20: of had the perfect thing, you know what I'm saying,

1951
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 20: where like Lebron is fucking great. You know what I'm saying,

1952
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 20: He gone the ultimate floor general.

1953
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. Lebron can control an entire

1954
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 15: forty eight minute game.

1955
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 20: I mean we watched him do it against Boston, like

1956
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 20: in Game six and seven, he played forty eight minutes.

1957
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 15: And he controls the entire place of the game.

1958
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 20: But he can do that in any game, controlling into

1959
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 20: absurd and so on, which I think is what makes

1960
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 20: him so great. But Kyrie being next to him, it

1961
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 20: kind of took the weight off Kyrie to do anything else.

1962
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 20: But when I give you the ball to go score,

1963
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 20: go score, you know what I'm saying. So I think

1964
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 20: they kind of had a perfect match, and it kind

1965
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 20: of you know, it happens a lot in sports and

1966
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 20: music where you know someone wants more like and you

1967
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 20: have a match made of heaven and then all of

1968
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 20: a sudden it's broken up to really you know what

1969
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 20: I'm saying. I think that's kind of what happened in

1970
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 20: their situation, and being that they kept running up against us,

1971
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 20: it may have like exponited, but yeah, but I think

1972
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 20: they had They definitely had a great thing.

1973
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 15: Kyrie kind of came out and said that this.

1974
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 20: Year, like yo, I had to call bro a year

1975
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 20: ago or something like, you know, I called bron and said, Yo,

1976
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 20: my bad, right, And I respect Kyrie for that.

1977
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 15: But they had a real good thing going for sure.

1978
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 15: And come in love with them as well. They like

1979
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 15: they were a really good team.

1980
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 20: But you know when when you start to talk about

1981
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 20: like US meeting in the finals, like yeah, they had

1982
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 20: no fucking shot at winning in twenty sixteen, Like people

1983
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 20: talk all, oh, y'all blew a three to one lead,

1984
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 20: like they was coming back here game five and they

1985
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 20: didn't have a fucking clue of how they was going

1986
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 20: to win that game.

1987
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 15: I got suspended.

1988
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 20: They win game five, We're going.

1989
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 15: Back to Cleveland for game six.

1990
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 20: Okay, you go back home for game six, as fucking

1991
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 20: loud as hell.

1992
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:49,839
Speaker 15: I'm coming back.

1993
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 20: From a suspension, like everything's kind of thrown off. They

1994
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 20: win game six, all three of us know. You go

1995
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 20: to game seven and it's a fucking coin slipping game.

1996
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 20: Any game seven, like.

1997
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 15: You go to get I'm play.

1998
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 20: Game seven is a coin flip and sean enough, the

1999
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 20: game went down to the wire and Kyrie hit a

2000
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 20: tough shot.

2001
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying.

2002
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 20: That's game seven, and so uh you know, will we

2003
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 20: have three pet it? Though I can't necessarily say we

2004
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 20: wouldn't have we would have three pet it because what

2005
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 20: I will say is this. In twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,

2006
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 20: we beat the shit out of everybody and nobody had

2007
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 20: a clue of how to stop us.

2008
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 15: Twenty sixteen, things got a little harder, but we were

2009
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 15: able to figure it out. We won seventy three games.

2010
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 20: But like we had to, we had to move a lot,

2011
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 20: Like it wasn't just the same exact offense we ran

2012
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 20: the year before, Like it was like Steve Kerr was

2013
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 20: playing chess and he was making great moves, but it

2014
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 20: was it was always a chest nation In twenty sixteen,

2015
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 20: although we won more games, it wasn't as easy. And

2016
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 20: then we got to the I mean you can even remember.

2017
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 20: In twenty sixteen, we got to ok See and we

2018
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 20: were down three one, and we kind of switched our

2019
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 20: match us back to normal and pretty much said, all right,

2020
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 20: we're going to as opposed to making everybody else beat

2021
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 20: us and trying to take Kevin and Russ away. Everybody

2022
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 20: else was beating us. Let's make Kevin and Russ beat

2023
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 20: us and take everybody else away. And it was a

2024
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,759
Speaker 20: fucking chess move by Steve Current. It worked to fucking perfection,

2025
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 20: and we were able to come back and win that series,

2026
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 20: and then we go on to the finals and I

2027
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 20: get suspended. We were going to win that series, but

2028
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 20: to say we were going to three feet, I'm not

2029
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 20: sure we would have won in twenty seventeen, because you know,

2030
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 20: teams have started changing.

2031
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 15: They were preparing for.

2032
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 20: Us, like watching film on us all summer, and so

2033
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 20: it was starting to get harder. So because we lost

2034
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 20: in twenty sixteen, we then got Kevin, and once we

2035
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 20: got Kevin, we were fucking unstoppable, even losing last year.

2036
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 15: Kevin, don't get hurt like you see that game. We

2037
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 15: came back in game five. I looked up we had

2038
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,520
Speaker 15: like forty points in the first quarter.

2039
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 20: And it wasn't They wouldn't instid a chance if Kevin

2040
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 20: didn't get hurt.

2041
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 5: But you know, shit.

2042
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 20: Happens, and that's the part of the game. You know

2043
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 20: what I'm saying. Injuries happened, and Kawhi was fucking amazing,

2044
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,799
Speaker 20: you know what I'm saying, Pascal Siato, They were fucking amazing.

2045
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 20: But you know, to go back to twenty and sixteen

2046
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 20: and Lebron, like those matchups in the finals.

2047
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 15: With Lebron and Kyrie and them and then.

2048
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 20: Lebron by himself or with Kevin loving Kyrie is gone,

2049
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 20: like they were fucking incredible matchups.

2050
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying.

2051
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 20: We were able to get the better of it, But

2052
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,959
Speaker 20: I don't think we would have lost in twenty and sixteen.

2053
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 20: I know we wouldn't have lost.

2054
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 15: We would have won Game five and it would have

2055
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 15: been over. But shit happens.

2056
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 20: But twenty seventeen and eighteen probably wouldn't have been the

2057
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 20: same either, because getting Kevin played a huge fucking role

2058
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 20: in that, you know what I'm saying. So what does

2059
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 20: the dynasty end up going as long as it did?

2060
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 15: Probably not, you.

2061
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 20: Know, but when we got Kevin, it fucking made it.

2062
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: You know it over started over.

2063
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,480
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Emon Shepard.

2064
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 10: The step back right, wouldn't it?

2065
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Was it the truth? In the huddle he told you, Luke,

2066
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: give me the ball or was that.

2067
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Just urban legend?

2068
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 10: He told you it would give them ball? Like this

2069
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 10: was early in the fourth. He was frying. He was good,

2070
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying. He was early in the fourth.

2071
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 12: He said he wanted the ball because uh Bron Bron

2072
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 12: wanted he.

2073
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 10: Wanted a three to one screen Bron was.

2074
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 12: He like, yeah, he the biggest, Like matchup, Nick, Bron

2075
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 12: will play chess with you. It be stone cold to crowd,

2076
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 12: be quiet. He'd be at the top. No, no, make

2077
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 12: him him like him, like no he gonna play Like no,

2078
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 12: he gonna play today.

2079
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 5: He'd be like.

2080
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 12: Whoa buddy, He like, whoa calm down, but he'd be

2081
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 12: dead serious. So he brought that over and we realized

2082
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 12: Steph wasn't trying to match up with Kyle.

2083
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 10: I don't remember the foul situation or.

2084
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 12: What it was, but all we took it is like, oh,

2085
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 12: you scared a dude, You scared a buddy.

2086
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 5: So we just feed him.

2087
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 12: If if Steph came and guarded me if they tried

2088
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 12: to do a triple switch whatever they tried to do.

2089
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 12: I say, bro, if I go down here and I

2090
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 12: set this screen and Steph switch off and try and

2091
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 12: go on me while I'm in the corner, I'm gonna

2092
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 12: bring my screen up too, and now you got a

2093
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 12: double screen. But you, Finnah, have to guard Kyrie. And

2094
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 12: once we knew that at the end of that, Like

2095
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 12: I mean, if you watch film, you knew Kyrie he

2096
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 12: gonna get to that right wing and he gonna punish you.

2097
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 12: But if you watch film, you know that. I just

2098
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 12: don't feel like they watched enough of it because dude wasn't.

2099
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 12: Dude was trying to he Kolbe in his mind didn't didn't.

2100
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Hundred play said that was one of the biggest regrets

2101
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: of his career, was switching that screen. I think Clay

2102
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: came out and said, that's the biggest one of the

2103
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: biggest regrets of my career was switching that screen.

2104
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 10: Clay in his mind, he like, I know exactly what

2105
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 10: it was.

2106
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 14: Clay, Gary Payton, whoever was on that wing was getting

2107
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 14: cooked on this show.

2108
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 12: But I'm saying, like I know that, I know that

2109
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 12: that that energy that Clay talking about where it's like

2110
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 12: I knew good and well, I know what this is,

2111
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 12: I know what's about to happen, and now I got

2112
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 12: to watch it on TV. Yeah, Like now I gotta

2113
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 12: sit here and act like yeah, like my one of

2114
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 12: my biggest regrets. And Steph, I'm sure you would have

2115
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 12: been the light skinned man either way.

2116
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 10: He was gonna be the light skinned man.

2117
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

2118
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 10: That was destined for you.

2119
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 12: But I feel like when you came to the garden

2120
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 12: and I let Raymond Felton's pride getting away and he

2121
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 12: had fifty.

2122
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 7: Let me tell you why I'm not.

2123
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 5: I feel you because Raymond felt was on my team.

2124
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 14: Jamier Nelson had twenty points in the first quarter the

2125
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 14: first three games of the first round of the playoffs

2126
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 14: on him.

2127
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 12: So I get it. I get it when I tell

2128
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 12: you my dog, but I get Raymond. That's my dog too.

2129
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 12: That's what I said. I Raymond said, schump no, like

2130
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 12: he was like bro like stop like stop, I'm like,

2131
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 12: ge come on, ge like come on.

2132
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 10: Because I just switched off to him. I immediately poked

2133
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 10: the ball away.

2134
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 12: Let's get to this dude, Joe, like stop, letting dude

2135
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 12: do this, but he really be doing this to us.

2136
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 7: Stop letting Tom do this.

2137
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 12: He really be doing it real because I've seen it

2138
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,879
Speaker 12: coming coming. I'm like the confidence is changing.

2139
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 5: Gee.

2140
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 12: He going back to Davidson on us. Bro, Nah, his

2141
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 12: jersey ain't read, bro.

2142
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 10: Don't let him do that.

2143
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 5: You feel me.

2144
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 12: I'm like, he doing the shit that we was like,

2145
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 12: you can't do that in the league.

2146
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 10: He started doing it.

2147
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 12: I'm not, Yeah, you going too fast, shooting that jumping Now,

2148
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 12: that's too much.

2149
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 10: You ain't even holding it up no more.

2150
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 12: You ain't you ain't you even yeah falling this shit?

2151
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 12: I no, Bro, Now he talking to the crowd, he

2152
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 12: pointing that fans. I'm like, Steph, don't even do that.

2153
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 12: I think it was us Hey, jim My bad, Hey,

2154
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 12: Hey New York, my bad. If I was a part

2155
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 12: of that, cause shorty, I did not. I could have

2156
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 12: ran up to Raymond like a g you're guarding whatever

2157
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 12: the fuck else.

2158
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 10: But I'm now guarding Steph ninety four feet.

2159
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 12: But I had just got back from injury, so they

2160
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 12: was like, something, you overgassing yourself.

2161
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 5: He's gonna do you.

2162
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 10: That's how they say you on a minute restriction.

2163
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 12: He's gonna do you let raining handle?

2164
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 2: Willing to reblow this wheel?

2165
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 10: Just yes.

2166
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 12: I really felt like in my heart like we are

2167
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 12: birthday an animal. Bro.

2168
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 10: I really think of that moment.

2169
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 12: I'm like, Bro, I think we ignited that confidence that

2170
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 12: came because.

2171
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 10: After that game, Bro, he got very disrespectful.

2172
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 12: He got disrespectful shit twelve.

2173
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 10: Thirteen, twenty twelve thirteen.

2174
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Yep, that's it.

2175
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 10: I had just got back, Bro.

2176
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 12: I had to wear a sleeve on my ny I

2177
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 12: never had a black sleeve on my knee.

2178
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 36: Bro.

2179
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 12: I'm like, shorty ass was really dragging us, and I'm like,

2180
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 12: shorty y'all acting like it's record.

2181
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 10: Was coming to I never forget being in a huddle.

2182
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 5: Ron Better? What is he right now? Yeah?

2183
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 2: My dog my bad?

2184
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, I like all my nigga rong, I just

2185
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 5: like you run you.

2186
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 24: Moron.

2187
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 5: We don't call him Meta?

2188
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 12: Well, better start rubbing my shoulders, like, calm down.

2189
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 10: If he telling you to calm down, he like, be cool,

2190
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 10: what's it?

2191
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 36: No?

2192
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 10: It couldn't have been Meta though, because Meda came.

2193
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 5: The next who was.

2194
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: KT?

2195
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 10: Kurt Thomas came grabbed my shoulder, say.

2196
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 5: Hey, that sound different?

2197
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 25: He say a man.

2198
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 10: Calm down, Calm down. But I'm like, I'm like, man,

2199
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 10: what the fuck this? Nika car like three. I'm like, bro,

2200
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 10: this is he putting bullets in us? Bro Like what

2201
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 10: y'all mean? It's not cool? Foul um? Hit him? I'm like, Bro,

2202
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 10: what y'all talking about? He ain't got no bruises on nothing.

2203
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 10: Hit him? Hit him? Like what are you talking about?

2204
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 27: Bro?

2205
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 10: Take a foul he coming off the screen? Hit him.

2206
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 12: I'm like, Bro, y'all want me to do it, but

2207
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 12: I'm like asking coach. They like, man, somebody get wild Man.

2208
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 12: But he liked, he like, come get wild Man over here.

2209
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 12: Calm down, man, that man on the wood. They like

2210
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 12: talking to me like it's before we knew it. The

2211
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 12: man fifty and the garden was cheering for him. I

2212
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 12: say they cheering for him.

2213
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 5: I was sick.

2214
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 12: Bro, light skinned man. I just want you to know, bro,

2215
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 12: light skinning my day. Do you know the light skinning man,

2216
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 12: the light skinning man, the light skin Do you know

2217
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 12: the light skinning man that lives on Jewelry Lane?

2218
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

2219
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 10: Bro, that light skinned man. Now got after that, it

2220
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 10: was real, Yeah, it was run away with it.

2221
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 12: After that he started shooting from forty than start turning

2222
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 12: around when he show him, like you Gilbert areenas now

2223
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 12: you Gilbert Jesus Christ agent zero pieces.

2224
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 14: Man Nix will do it. You stand everybody in confidence.

2225
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 14: He's standing going trust man. I was about to say something,

2226
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 14: what what's the best.

2227
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 10: Version of Bron? Best version? Yeah?

2228
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 14: Yeah, you play with him, you've seen them couple against them. Yeah,

2229
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 14: what's the best version you've seen?

2230
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 12: I think the best version I saw Bron was you

2231
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 12: remember the year that they lost to when Dirk won? Yeah,

2232
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 12: that next year, that next year they came back when

2233
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 12: him and d Wade valve to not shoot, not settle

2234
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 12: for threes, and they played that whole first season and

2235
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 12: they wasn't shooting no threes.

2236
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 10: They was just attacking. It was vicious. I was like, bro,

2237
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 10: what the fuck are we supposed to do with that?

2238
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 10: I was looking at the league like downhill too.

2239
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 12: When I get there, How am I gonna What am

2240
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 12: I gonna do about that?

2241
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 5: Like?

2242
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 10: What is that? Nigga?

2243
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 5: Like?

2244
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 10: They're running fast? They big as shit.

2245
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 12: I'm like d Wade and Broun literally passing it back

2246
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 12: and forth and.

2247
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 10: Just downhill, downhill, down game. Yeah, I'm like y'all not

2248
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 10: gonna shoot.

2249
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 12: They was pump faking every three no matter how wide

2250
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 12: open it was, and attacking.

2251
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 10: I feel like that was the scariest Broun to deal with.

2252
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 12: He was so focused, Like you remember that clip when

2253
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 12: they did they I think they did the the oop

2254
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 12: they did the oop they dunked it. Coach, you would

2255
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 12: have me watch this clip like ten times before the

2256
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 12: game they called a ooh dunky, Ron d Wade and

2257
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 12: Chris Bosh did the fastest sprint like right next to

2258
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 12: each other, like it was like to get back on defense.

2259
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 10: I was like, Nigga, that's the.

2260
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 22: Scariest shit I've ever seen in my life.

2261
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 12: Those three right there going on a breakaway, banging that

2262
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 12: bitch after like passing it back and forth and then

2263
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 12: sprinting back to where you can't throw an outlet.

2264
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 19: I was like, well what I was.

2265
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 12: I'll be remembering ship like that because it's like, Bro,

2266
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 12: like you feel me like Bron being able to do

2267
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 12: that and say, you know what, I'm not gonna shoot

2268
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 12: a three now, Like that's what's crazy about Braun.

2269
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 10: Every version is.

2270
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 12: Scary now that I think about it, because it's like

2271
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 12: even now he can say I'm done dunking on y'all,

2272
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 12: but you still finna have to deal with my back

2273
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 12: to the basket and you got deal it.

2274
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 10: I can still pass it really really good.

2275
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 5: I don't feel like.

2276
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: If I catch a rhythm. I'm here five or six

2277
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: threes on.

2278
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 10: Real talk, real talk, you know what I'm saying. And

2279
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 10: I figured out this. You throw things for the most part.

2280
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 14: For the most part, my nigga, nigga stills the while,

2281
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 14: he sh I'll just be eyeballs. He funny though, Broo, Yeah,

2282
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 14: I didn't happen a shutty funny though, bro it'd be funny,

2283
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 14: bro Like.

2284
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: We got rock on the building trying to find out

2285
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: what's going on over here.

2286
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 2: But man, welcome to the show. Clay Thompson, Clay, we

2287
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: appreciate you.

2288
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen, Uh you guys a clips the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, dude,

2289
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: seventy three and nine?

2290
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 10: What was leading up?

2291
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: We'll talked about the finals? Like, what was it up?

2292
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were on the pace early on.

2293
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 2: What was every what was it energy like around every

2294
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 2: single game? Oh?

2295
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 26: Man, it was special. That was a special season. We

2296
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 26: didn't finished the job, but that's the season. I'll never forget. Man,

2297
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 26: we remember one point a lot. We were fifty and

2298
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 26: five at one point. I'm like crazy Indiana and there

2299
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 26: and Rick Carl said it was like when the Rolling

2300
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 26: Stars come to tell you know. I was like, that's hilarious,

2301
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 26: more like Bone Dugs and Harmony's you know, yeah, Rick.

2302
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 11: We know you all playing both dugs at hard. That

2303
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 11: was the best. That was a special year.

2304
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Man.

2305
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 26: Every game was just right and like like the team

2306
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 26: wanted to beat us so bad. We're getting hate from

2307
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 26: the old heads like oh, his team would get smacked

2308
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 26: by the bulls, and like, we know, all.

2309
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 11: Right, we just want to We're just doing our job.

2310
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 26: I mean, I've come to also realize like it comes

2311
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 26: from a good place.

2312
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 11: They're just we're all just competitive.

2313
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 26: And I'm not gonna I'm definitely in twenty years and

2314
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 26: not gonna be like these guys are the best now.

2315
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 11: I'm like, nah, twenty tens are the best.

2316
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

2317
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 14: Uh.

2318
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: Game six in the Western Conference Finals that year against

2319
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: the thunder down three to two on the road, forty

2320
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: one and eleven excuse me, forty one points eleven for

2321
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: eighteen from the three point line. You guys come back

2322
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: and win that series Game six, clays about who he is.

2323
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 14: The beginning the game beginning, Man, that was.

2324
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 26: I just you know, we had obviously everything working against us, like, oh,

2325
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 26: look at these failures. They're about to blow the best

2326
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 26: season of all time. So I just thought my mind, like, man,

2327
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 26: you got to empty the clip, like we can't go

2328
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 26: back to the bay with.

2329
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, what are we doing here?

2330
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 26: So I just I remember coming out the gate early

2331
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 26: that game and it felt good. Everything was in rhythm

2332
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 26: and just have to be one of those nice man.

2333
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 26: It's just I barely remember the moments, honestly, but I

2334
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 26: watched the Oh you watch the footage, you'd be like,

2335
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 26: I can't believe I shot that shot.

2336
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,480
Speaker 11: And when they like a lot of them, I'm like, dang.

2337
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: A lot of them.

2338
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 5: Right, They have some nice rooms out.

2339
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 11: There, they like some bouncy. But that was special, man.

2340
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 26: It's still a special team. We didn't finish the job,

2341
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 26: but that was such a special season. I hold that

2342
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 26: record still dear in my heart.

2343
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 5: Man.

2344
01:42:55,439 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: So you get to the finals against bron again again, too,

2345
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: what's the game plan? Obviously you knowing what he did

2346
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of single handedly with all due respects the first time,

2347
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: second time around went your guys game plan approaching him

2348
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: in the finals this stime.

2349
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 11: Oh man, you say like, oh, I'll make the others

2350
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 11: beat us.

2351
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 5: But then like.

2352
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 26: Bron and Kyrie get going, and then you overhelp and

2353
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 26: j R. Smith can shoot, Kevin Love can shoot, James

2354
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 26: Doones can all them all their role players could really shoot.

2355
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 11: So it was actually a great matchup.

2356
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 26: Like personnel watch both teams is you could see there's

2357
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 26: a new era of hoo's being played. Like no traditional center,

2358
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 26: we're not. It's all very guard heavy. Lebron's really a

2359
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 26: guard and having a.

2360
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 11: Gosh, so exhausting.

2361
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 26: I'm so grateful for Andrew just thinking like having to

2362
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 26: chase Kyrie around those seven games was exhausting.

2363
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 5: Man.

2364
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: Well, I've bet some people don't realize, like you were

2365
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: the one that always took the best player on the

2366
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 1: other team, whether it be Dame Kyrie. But we're still

2367
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: able to do it on the other end too.

2368
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 26: Yeah, who played two guard did the same thing, whether

2369
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 26: it's Mike, Kobe d Way, the greatest to ever do it,

2370
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 26: even a I led the league in steals, like the

2371
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 26: best players to play shooting yard play both sides of

2372
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 26: the ball. I mean go way back to out who's

2373
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 26: Alvid Robinson? He won dp O Y like doing that.

2374
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 26: That's a beast moode. But uh yeah, man, that was

2375
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 26: a tough series. But O, the biggest regret I have

2376
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 26: in my basketball career, besides getting busted for the weed,

2377
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 26: was switching that pick and roll with Steph with j R.

2378
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 5: And Kyrie.

2379
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 26: I still can't, like, I can't bring myself to watch

2380
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 26: that footage. It's it's too uncomfortable. You know, if you

2381
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 26: watched yourself, you know, I can't just gave it that.

2382
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 5: It was a big shot.

2383
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 11: Now, Kyrie got.

2384
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 26: One of the greatest shots the NBA history, and I

2385
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 26: like Steph's great defender too, But I'm just like, man,

2386
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 26: I can't believe I can see of that switch.

2387
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 11: It still burns. You never get over things like that.

2388
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 14: But that was the game plan though at the time, right, Yeah.

2389
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 26: But I'm like, when I look at the footage, I'm like,

2390
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:51,520
Speaker 26: that was a pretty.

2391
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 2: Weak scream I could have got through just but just

2392
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 2: saying you don't. Yeah, both of y'all go.

2393
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 26: And picking pop and jail Kyrie with his tongue contested three.

2394
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 2: You gotta take that, Yeah, you gotta take it.

2395
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 11: That was a that was a dagger.

2396
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: Your thoughts when Draymond gets suspended.

2397
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 26: I knew he saw a chance, like he'll be so

2398
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 26: much harder. You know, it is Draymond's are heart and soul.

2399
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 14: Did you think he deserved it to get kicked out?

2400
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 11: Honestly I didn't at the time.

2401
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 26: Yeah, I thought he got stepped over, and I was like, man,

2402
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 26: he's defending him.

2403
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 11: So it happened so much. You're supposed to just do this, steps.

2404
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 2: Over everybody, ain't lou here you go. I'm just saying,

2405
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 2: took tie out of it.

2406
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 14: Hey, I stepped over after we throw Dollard to the face,

2407
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 14: and he just he just took He just looked.

2408
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 5: For a time.

2409
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 2: But at least he was there checking him.

2410
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 11: Man balls to check him like that.

2411
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: I've never been teammates, but just always admired from afar

2412
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 1: Man Jr.

2413
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: Man appreciate it.

2414
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, Game one of the Finals. You get the

2415
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: offensive rebound and dribble towards half court. Talk about that

2416
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: to me?

2417
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 7: What happened the play before? It was a foul?

2418
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 26: Uh?

2419
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 1: Wasn't Lebron passed to George Hill? Yeah, who was shooting free.

2420
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 37: Throws right and I thought he made both of he did,

2421
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 37: so I was all right, bet, so next time, George,

2422
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 37: get the bar on the free throws. I'm all right, bet,

2423
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 37: we get the bar.

2424
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 2: Ship.

2425
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 37: They're gonna you know what I mean, we call time

2426
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 37: out whatever, they're gonna try a foul anyway, so we

2427
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 37: do what we normally do. All right, Bet, get the ball.

2428
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 37: Nobody called time out. All right, Bet, I'm about to,

2429
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 37: you know what I mean, dribble it back out. Then game,

2430
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 37: game about to be over. I look Lebron, Bron pointing

2431
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 37: like this. Oh I look over oh man. And then

2432
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 37: after that it was just like, I know this ship

2433
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 37: ain't just happen. I know this ship ain't just happened.

2434
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 37: Not in the finals, not in the finals. He was

2435
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 37: about to beat these niggas.

2436
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 5: Say with the box out.

2437
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 14: The box out looked at you didn't expect to get

2438
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 14: that ball because you had k right there.

2439
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 7: I had no It's no way he was getting the riboud,

2440
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 7: no bullshit, I was told.

2441
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 37: I was so bet on going the other way and

2442
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 37: trying to steal the rebound because I was like, damn,

2443
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 37: if the ball come this way, I'm dead anyway. So

2444
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 37: I'm thinking, if the ball goes out. Way I can.

2445
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 37: I can at least at least try and tip it

2446
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 37: somewhere right in your hands.

2447
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 7: The way it look.

2448
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 37: The ball came right, I said, oh, ship, grab the

2449
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 37: ball all right, bet, Bro, we get to we'll get

2450
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 37: to the time out. I can laugh about it now.

2451
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: How long before you How long did it take you

2452
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 1: to laugh about it? Because it was memes, it was

2453
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: all over the world. It's going to go down here.

2454
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 7: He lied about that ship that night.

2455
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 5: No, he did in the chata.

2456
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 37: Dude, Bro, I can't, don't. I'm not a person to

2457
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 37: hold on the ship. I'm not going hold on to

2458
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,799
Speaker 37: no grudges. I'll never forget it, but I'm not gonna.

2459
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: Suck up the first time.

2460
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 5: We all.

2461
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 7: Messed up?

2462
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: So what was the time out?

2463
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 2: Like? Man?

2464
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 37: When I tell you it was like well, Brian asked,

2465
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 37: do we haven't? Oh my goodness, and nobody wanted to

2466
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 37: answer the question.

2467
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 2: I didn't want anything.

2468
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 37: I tell you, I'm telling him all the way. But

2469
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 37: what I'm telling him all the way to the bench.

2470
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 37: We gotta time out, I said, Bro, why do you

2471
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 37: need to just call time out? Why do you just

2472
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 37: call time out? That's why we was talking, Bro, he

2473
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 37: was like walking to the bench. I'm like he asked.

2474
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 7: He said, Yo, we gotta time out? Do we gotta

2475
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 7: time out? When I tell you?

2476
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 37: Some of the players just looked away, and the coaching

2477
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 37: staff looked like they could turn spook. Why as a ghost,

2478
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 37: bru I was like, oh ship, I replayed, I was.

2479
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 7: Crying in my in my room.

2480
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: How is crying?

2481
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 36: How did he get the downy picker up or paper towel?

2482
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 36: Like he has a house paper towel and just when

2483
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 36: he found out we had time as luck, he put

2484
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 36: it on his edge and back his face. When did

2485
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:18,839
Speaker 36: he get the downy the quicker picker.

2486
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 7: That he always because he don't used the regular towels,

2487
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 7: you know, so he.

2488
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 27: Has a roll a quicker pickle down on the side.

2489
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 7: It ain't down there. I can't lie because I'm using.

2490
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 37: Ships work, using all the same toils and ship and

2491
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 37: you're trying to wash and I ain't trying with it.

2492
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 2: I saw that though all the coaches were spooked.

2493
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 5: I've seen it and.

2494
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Want to say, got any time out?

2495
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 37: This is this is my thing though, like if it was,

2496
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 37: if it's my fault and you want to depend it

2497
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 37: on me, all right?

2498
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Cool?

2499
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: Make me free throws.

2500
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 5: First g he will make the damn free throws.

2501
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 37: None of this, I mean, that's why it happens, you

2502
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 37: know what I'm saying. That's why I can't be mad

2503
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 37: at him for making the free show. We couldn't we

2504
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 37: we didn't have to be in a position to win

2505
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 37: the game.

2506
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 27: Yeah, had an incredible game, you know what I'm saying.

2507
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 37: So I hit TU that night. I was like, oh, man, bro,

2508
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 37: I don't even know what to say. He's like, Bro,

2509
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 37: what are you talking about. You made a basketball play,

2510
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 37: it didn't work out, and you mess and it happens.

2511
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 37: I was like, yeah, bro, but I should have shot

2512
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 37: the ball whatever whatever I said to him. He's like, man,

2513
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 37: but what if you ain't get the rebound? The game

2514
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 37: would have been over anyway. So I was like when

2515
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 37: I thought about that, I was like, well, yeah, right,

2516
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 37: at there's so many ship that could have happened, and

2517
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 37: what did happen? It happened and then we get swept anyway.

2518
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 37: So it was like we got okay, we won one game.

2519
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 37: Didn't want what is the difference?

2520
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 14: But that game won Broun that game he had, that's

2521
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 14: one of the best games of his career for sure.

2522
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 37: Wow, for sure, the wow I would have changed the

2523
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 37: whole series of bro if it.

2524
01:50:59,000 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 7: Was the fifth.

2525
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd be perfant on that right.

2526
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 19: Had balls Grandpa, and we got.

2527
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: The one and only Kevin Durant. Take me back to

2528
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: the finals.

2529
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year.

2530
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: And I say sometimes as athletes, we need to be

2531
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: protected from ourselves because at the end of the day,

2532
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: we got that.

2533
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 5: Say.

2534
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2535
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 1: So you're on the brink of your third straight title

2536
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Finals MVP the prior to years, tell me where your

2537
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: mindset was to come back and try to help your

2538
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: team get.

2539
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 10: Over that hup.

2540
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 38: I mean, as I started getting healthy, I started, you know,

2541
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 38: having these pictures in my mind about what it would

2542
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 38: be like to come back from down three to one.

2543
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 5: I know for a fact, I wasn't gonna.

2544
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 38: Get finals MVP, but seeing you know, Steph get that

2545
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 38: moment I was looking forward to, or Clay whoever it

2546
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 38: was at that time I was looking for. I was

2547
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 38: just picturing so much in my mind. At that point,

2548
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 38: it's just great things happening. If I stepped back on

2549
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 38: the court, and you know it started to turn that

2550
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 38: first you know what I'm saying, Like you know I

2551
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 38: could tell. I can tell you know, when I went

2552
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 38: back to the bench to confidence, my teammates had the

2553
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 38: whole organization, Like I could look down and see, you know,

2554
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 38: our fans and E forty, everybody just had a sense

2555
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 38: of like, man, back I knew the fans back in

2556
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 38: the bay was just so excited that I was playing again.

2557
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 7: You know.

2558
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 22: It was just a life is crazy.

2559
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,759
Speaker 38: You know, you can be on that high so fast

2560
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 38: and then a matter of second you go back down.

2561
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 38: I'm grateful for it. It's fucked up that I had

2562
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 38: to go through, but I'm also grateful that I can

2563
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 38: experience it because down the line, I can be able

2564
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 38: to speak on how much it helped me as a

2565
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 38: player in the person.

2566
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: What was it like once you went down, knowing you're down,

2567
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: and then seeing Clay go down, and then the Raptors

2568
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: winning a championship, knowing that should have been your guys'

2569
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: third in row.

2570
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was rough.

2571
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 38: It was rough because I feel like throughout the season

2572
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 38: we could have definitely we could have locked in a

2573
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 38: little bit earlier for the playoffs, and I feel like

2574
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,759
Speaker 38: and I feel like when we getting down to that moment,

2575
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 38: it was just like damn it, you know, having me

2576
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 38: and play out and not winning the championship out the

2577
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 38: planning for so long, just like that's just that's just

2578
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 38: how the gods work. That's just how the games work sometimes.

2579
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 38: And just like throughout the regular season, I really wish

2580
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 38: that we'd have locked in a little bit more, you

2581
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 38: know what I mean, it had a little bit more

2582
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 38: game playing, a little bit more focused going into the season,

2583
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 38: so that like it didn't have to end that way,

2584
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 38: you know what I'm saying. It's like we waited so

2585
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 38: long just for that moment instead of like each game

2586
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 38: was important, you know, even in the regular season, even

2587
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 38: in the first round, Like we waited for so long

2588
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 38: just for the finals, and it happened that way. It

2589
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 38: was it was like it made me think about the

2590
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 38: whole season as a whole.

2591
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: That's a gift in the curse, you know what I mean.

2592
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 1: Because for them it was a five year run to

2593
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: know that, Bro, we're gonna be playing till June every year.

2594
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, you know, I mean, it's

2595
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball.

2596
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 2: It's a lot, you know what I mean.

2597
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 38: And I didn't realize that until, you know, until we

2598
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 38: started getting into the playoffs and we played Houston and

2599
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 38: it was just like, Ship, this is the third year

2600
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 38: of us making this run. It's tough, and so two

2601
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 38: more years before that, I know mentally, you know, training,

2602
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 38: it's draining, raining, and I got it, but it was like, Ship,

2603
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 38: it's right in our hands, it's right there for us

2604
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 38: to get a three p It hasn't happened in a while,

2605
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 38: so you know, is that it's that point where I

2606
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 38: was like, let's just fucking lock in and do it.

2607
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: H