1
00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast. Be

2
00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680
Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five,

3
00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479
Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local

4
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,799
Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com,

5
00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840
Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app

6
00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,880
Speaker 1: by searching apps car Booming Up America Doug Gottleab Show,

7
00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,600
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

8
00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,880
Speaker 2: I hope you're having a great day of The Doug

9
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,160
Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show. Broadcast live, same bad time, same bad channel

10
00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,080
Speaker 2: every day. We're going over twenty years now, and we

11
00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,880
Speaker 2: got a lot to get to. The Packers come from

12
00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,199
Speaker 2: behind and end up smacking the Steelers late last night.

13
00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that during the show. Tom Telesco, former

14
00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,600
Speaker 2: GM of the Chargers and Raiders, will join us this hour.

15
00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,199
Speaker 2: You'll hear what we loved, what we hated from this

16
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:55,160
Speaker 2: weekend in sports, and it was a full sports weekend. Wait.

17
00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Dear Jerry Jones said about his defense tonight, I actually

18
00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,240
Speaker 2: agree with him. I agree with him a lot to

19
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,120
Speaker 2: get to World Series. Game three will be on a

20
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,959
Speaker 2: way tonight. Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped in

21
00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,080
Speaker 2: Game one that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see.

22
00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560
Speaker 2: Obviously this is this, this becomes the swing game. You know,

23
00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 2: we get some NFL talk about, we get some college

24
00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240
Speaker 2: football talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox? Is

25
00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,600
Speaker 2: that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.

26
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,920
Speaker 3: Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of

27
00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,320
Speaker 3: all time.

28
00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,479
Speaker 2: And the basics of the sports equinox are of all

29
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,440
Speaker 2: of the major all the professional sports are playing all

30
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,840
Speaker 2: at once, right, That that's what it is. And Jason's problem,

31
00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,400
Speaker 2: and I agree with him, is are you really considering soccer?

32
00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:50,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL. Is there college football tonight?

33
00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there a college football to night?

34
00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,280
Speaker 2: Probably is. There's college football like every night. But I

35
00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,240
Speaker 2: guess we're only considering professional.

36
00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,200
Speaker 3: Only professionals sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.

37
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,480
Speaker 3: I think in the nineties it was made a Major

38
00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,600
Speaker 3: four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's

39
00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,840
Speaker 3: a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five

40
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,800
Speaker 3: things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the

41
00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,640
Speaker 3: MLS game. It's almost like when people say, after a

42
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,919
Speaker 3: couple people die, that are famous. You know, they always

43
00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,840
Speaker 3: go in threes and then there's always a The third

44
00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320
Speaker 3: one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like

45
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 3: a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,

46
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,119
Speaker 3: on a movie at some point.

47
00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,760
Speaker 2: So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree

48
00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,400
Speaker 2: with you. Aki is kind of a stretch. But it

49
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,560
Speaker 2: does make sense because it's been around long enough, it's secure,

50
00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,840
Speaker 2: it's cures enough in itself. So we'll get to the sports.

51
00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,280
Speaker 2: Equinox doesn't actually matter. Are you equinox or equinox guy?

52
00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,600
Speaker 2: Does seem like a tomato? Tomato potato potato. Getting a

53
00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,960
Speaker 2: new job can be so much easier with Express imployt professionals.

54
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,560
Speaker 2: With Express, you'll have a local connection to the job market.

55
00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,720
Speaker 2: Get started at expresspros dot com, find location near you.

56
00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,959
Speaker 2: So I think, guys, we start with I mean, personally,

57
00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,760
Speaker 2: I think we start with Brian Kelly losing his job.

58
00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,440
Speaker 2: And I understand Brian Kelly has there's some things in

59
00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,280
Speaker 2: his career which everybody makes fun of, or if you

60
00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,000
Speaker 2: just don't like him. Right when he was first in

61
00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,239
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, you'd scream at mostly his quarterback and he

62
00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,200
Speaker 2: would turn purple in the face. Hard image to get

63
00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,760
Speaker 2: out of your head. Of course, you had the scissor

64
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,360
Speaker 2: lip incident, which is an absolute tragedy at Notre Dame,

65
00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,640
Speaker 2: and social media likes to have fun at Brian Kelly's expense.

66
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 2: But Brian Kelly gets fired, and I just there just

67
00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 2: isn't any way in which there's realistic expectations. That just isn't.

68
00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,720
Speaker 2: This is not the I mean again, you can listen

69
00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,960
Speaker 2: to it as the coach telling you this. But LSU

70
00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,840
Speaker 2: lost to really good teams. That league has really good teams,

71
00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,120
Speaker 2: and LSU's chose to do it through the portal, and

72
00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,560
Speaker 2: on paper, they should be better than other people because

73
00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,960
Speaker 2: of what they've done in the portal. But the problem

74
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,559
Speaker 2: is that the portal does isn't always. It isn't always

75
00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,000
Speaker 2: the way to win. It's really hard to put a

76
00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,200
Speaker 2: team together to make them care, and so the win

77
00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,159
Speaker 2: over Clemson doesn't look as good as it should. The

78
00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,520
Speaker 2: win over Florida, Florida's fired their coach. The three losses

79
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,560
Speaker 2: all the good teams in the sec ole Miss on

80
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 2: the road, Vanderbilt on the road, A and M at

81
00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,080
Speaker 2: home Stompson and they end up firing him. I think,

82
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,560
Speaker 2: what's amazing about LSU football is this is much more

83
00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:52,159
Speaker 2: in line with LSU football historically. That's just the reality.

84
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy who changed it was really Saban.

85
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,160
Speaker 2: And then after Saban, Less Miles had a bunch of

86
00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,400
Speaker 2: you hadn secutive ten win seasons. But they're five and

87
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,640
Speaker 2: three right now. Even if Brian Kelly was to lose

88
00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800
Speaker 2: to Alabama, they were on track for another nine and

89
00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,640
Speaker 2: four year And I just I don't think that's terrible.

90
00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, look, dude, they've won ten, ten, nine,

91
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:23,280
Speaker 2: probably nine now and that's the expectation. That's where they fall.

92
00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360
Speaker 2: And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,

93
00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,880
Speaker 2: right I mean, you had the Joe Burrow year. That's

94
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,560
Speaker 2: the most talented team maybe in the history of college

95
00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960
Speaker 2: football if you look at what they had during edwar

96
00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 2: Zarn's fifteen o season in twenty nineteen. Outside of that,

97
00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,160
Speaker 2: edwar Zuon won nine ten, and then of course he

98
00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,359
Speaker 2: had the COVID years and the ugly years at the

99
00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,960
Speaker 2: end where he won five and six. You know, Les

100
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,600
Speaker 2: Miles had the one year where he went thirteen and one,

101
00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,599
Speaker 2: and he had a couple coming off of Nick Saban.

102
00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,000
Speaker 2: He had three consecutive eleven plus win seasons, but he

103
00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,680
Speaker 2: had eight, he had a five, he had an eight nine,

104
00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,680
Speaker 2: then finally they fired him in an eight win year.

105
00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,039
Speaker 2: This is actually and it's more competitive now that's ever been.

106
00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:16,039
Speaker 2: LSU is finding out that however, you want a word,

107
00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,520
Speaker 2: what they used to do and the extra benefits they

108
00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,760
Speaker 2: used to provide, it was generally seen as a cheaters school.

109
00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920
Speaker 2: Now you're in the SEC where everyone can buy players.

110
00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,600
Speaker 2: It's I mean this Oklahoma, I said this when they

111
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,880
Speaker 2: joined the SEC. A program that's used to ten and

112
00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,039
Speaker 2: eleven win seasons is going to have to get used

113
00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080
Speaker 2: to four in five loss seasons. That's going to be

114
00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,200
Speaker 2: the norm, not the exception. It's really that difficult. Alabama,

115
00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 2: same thing like Alabama's. They are winning games and I

116
00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,800
Speaker 2: was the guy who defended Kleen Borrer to start the

117
00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,560
Speaker 2: year when they lost to Florida State and they've won

118
00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,719
Speaker 2: every game since. But the fact is that Alabama is

119
00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,719
Speaker 2: a player two away from having three losses and stay

120
00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000
Speaker 2: at number four right in the face. It's really what

121
00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,760
Speaker 2: it's like in this league. It's a super league and

122
00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,080
Speaker 2: you have to adjust otherwise. And the crazy part about

123
00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:16,040
Speaker 2: it is that Brian Kelly has gone from a guy

124
00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:25,040
Speaker 2: that seemed unlikable, seemed unrelatable, to boy enviable. I guarantee

125
00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,880
Speaker 2: if I ask Jay stew if I ask Dan Bayer,

126
00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,600
Speaker 2: if I ask Sam No matter how much we love

127
00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440
Speaker 2: what we do, if I said you can't do that

128
00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360
Speaker 2: anymore at the place in which you work or wherever,

129
00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,840
Speaker 2: you just can't do it anymore. But I'm going to

130
00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,000
Speaker 2: give you fifty four million dollars to not do it anymore,

131
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,080
Speaker 2: you'd be like, okay, But we've reached this point of

132
00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,440
Speaker 2: ridiculousness in college football. It started this year when you

133
00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,920
Speaker 2: fired two coaches three games in the season, and now

134
00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,360
Speaker 2: you're firing just anybody who doesn't win an SEC championship,

135
00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,680
Speaker 2: and the expectations are as such. And the crazy part

136
00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 2: about it is you can continue to fire coaches whenever

137
00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:11,600
Speaker 2: you want. You can't really fire players when you want.

138
00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,920
Speaker 2: But it's also fair to say that Brian Kelly to

139
00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480
Speaker 2: LSU was a weird fit. And then you have people go, well,

140
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,640
Speaker 2: he's not recruiting anymore, he's not recruiting the same level.

141
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,280
Speaker 2: Yes they are, heart they recruit out of the portal,

142
00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,480
Speaker 2: they don't do the high school recruiting. And it's just

143
00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,960
Speaker 2: hard to build a team out of the portal. But

144
00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440
Speaker 2: what I think got LSU, what got Brian Kelly is

145
00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,120
Speaker 2: the depth of that league is that the last two

146
00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,280
Speaker 2: years the league has been okay, and by SEC standards,

147
00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,880
Speaker 2: it's been a little bit down. And now with the

148
00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,160
Speaker 2: new ruling, they've gone just all in money wise, and

149
00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,240
Speaker 2: there is way more talent and way more parody. And

150
00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,200
Speaker 2: he's lost to three really good teams. It's hard for

151
00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640
Speaker 2: people to adjust to the fact that Vanderbilt is good,

152
00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,040
Speaker 2: but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good. And that's because

153
00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,319
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that used to have,

154
00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,319
Speaker 2: and now you know that it's not cheating for them

155
00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,840
Speaker 2: to buy players, whereas previously Vanderbilt was you had the

156
00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,000
Speaker 2: reputation of they didn't do anything extra. I think that's

157
00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,000
Speaker 2: what people are struggling to adjust to, the adjustment in

158
00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,280
Speaker 2: where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme of things, and

159
00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080
Speaker 2: the fact that everybody's got players, and if you put

160
00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,640
Speaker 2: yourself ahead based upon the fact that you were buying

161
00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,840
Speaker 2: players previously, you're not anything special now unless you just

162
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,080
Speaker 2: have more money than everybody else.

163
00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,640
Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug

164
00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,600
Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on

165
00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

166
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,680
Speaker 2: App It's Dog Gottlieb Show. You listened to Fox Sports

167
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:52,200
Speaker 2: Radio on the iHeartRadio app, Welcome in Buyer. I would

168
00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,719
Speaker 2: say this in regards to the Steelers' uniforms last night.

169
00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,600
Speaker 2: They were as bad as advertised. When it was up close.

170
00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,800
Speaker 2: They were okay when it was zoomed out because the

171
00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,199
Speaker 2: numbers were big and white and bright, and so it

172
00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,320
Speaker 2: kind of distracted from what are they actually doing here.

173
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,320
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's such a missed opportunity for

174
00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,559
Speaker 2: the for the NFL to do what Major League Baseball

175
00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880
Speaker 2: generally does a really good job. But they haven't always

176
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,800
Speaker 2: because the Dodgers, I forget who they played this year,

177
00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,240
Speaker 2: and they once were some bizarre uniforms, the city uniforms

178
00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,319
Speaker 2: or whatever. But like, just how the Steelers wear black.

179
00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,320
Speaker 2: Just have the Packers where they're the Packers. I sed

180
00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 2: out whites were awesome, but again, it's just the opportunity

181
00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,080
Speaker 2: to have the Packers in white, the Steelers in black,

182
00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,880
Speaker 2: the traditional uniforms with traditional quarterbacks and all the traditional storylines,

183
00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,000
Speaker 2: and I just think it was such a whiff that

184
00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,880
Speaker 2: I watched the game at three different locations, and every

185
00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,680
Speaker 2: location somebody was like, what is that team? Is that

186
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers? What are they wearing?

187
00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,720
Speaker 5: Well, literally like yes.

188
00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at an outdoor bar, pool side whatever.

189
00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,920
Speaker 2: And then I'm sitting there in the games on and

190
00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, everybody they turned it up and having beers

191
00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,920
Speaker 2: and drinking, and like three people like what are the

192
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:17,040
Speaker 2: Steelers wearing? And then we went to dinner and while

193
00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360
Speaker 2: we were waiting at dinner, we were at a bar,

194
00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 2: and yeah, it was what up with that? And there

195
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,679
Speaker 2: was like two other guys like what are the Steelers wearing?

196
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320
Speaker 2: Those are so ugly? And then I went to a

197
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 2: sushi bar in the second half and we had I

198
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,120
Speaker 2: made sure like I'm only going to sushi bar. I

199
00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,000
Speaker 2: want to watch the second half, watch the entire second

200
00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,520
Speaker 2: half walleating sushi. And yeah, the same thing was that

201
00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,480
Speaker 2: even the sushi chef, who was Japanese obviously, and I

202
00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,280
Speaker 2: don't know if that's obvious, but and he spoke pretty

203
00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,720
Speaker 2: good English, but it was definitely not his native language.

204
00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 2: He said, he looked at me, was like, is that

205
00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers? Like yeah, it's like those are really ugly.

206
00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,520
Speaker 2: It's amazing how and how roundly he disliked those jerseys

207
00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:09,080
Speaker 2: were yesterday. And then there's the game, and I kind

208
00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480
Speaker 2: of think that the fourth quarter is a real, real tease,

209
00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,080
Speaker 2: or maybe it's what the Packers have in them. You know,

210
00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,120
Speaker 2: suddenly Tucker Craft has become the best pass catching tight

211
00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,880
Speaker 2: end in the NFL. They can run it, they can

212
00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,400
Speaker 2: throw it, and that thing was moving and the defense

213
00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,719
Speaker 2: is getting stops, and they had great energy, and it

214
00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,440
Speaker 2: felt like this young team just had more energy than

215
00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and the Steelers couldn't get to love and

216
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,600
Speaker 2: he eventually picked him apart. But it's just such a

217
00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,480
Speaker 2: tease considering how would the kids say mid how average

218
00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,320
Speaker 2: they were up until that point to where the light

219
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,880
Speaker 2: switch went on. I guess the question, Dan is which

220
00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,560
Speaker 2: are the real Packers Quarters one through three or quarter four?

221
00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 6: Quarter four? And I think that's the only one that

222
00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,440
Speaker 6: you can really concern about. This is also a week

223
00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,200
Speaker 6: one Green Bay or week week's one into green Bay.

224
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,640
Speaker 6: In a season where we're not sure who was who

225
00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600
Speaker 6: and who was rising to the crop, I think you

226
00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,520
Speaker 6: have to look at what team has played the best,

227
00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,880
Speaker 6: maybe not throughout the first eight weeks of the season.

228
00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,760
Speaker 6: But just to his reach to peak, and I think

229
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,360
Speaker 6: that you'd have a tough argument of anybody in the

230
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,600
Speaker 6: NFC that they've reached the peak of what green Bay

231
00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760
Speaker 6: has played like. So I would take what green Bay

232
00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,520
Speaker 6: did in the fourth quarter, second half of that game

233
00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,480
Speaker 6: because that matches up with who we saw early on

234
00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,040
Speaker 6: the season.

235
00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,559
Speaker 2: Sammy, you want to get in on the uniforms.

236
00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, quickly.

237
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200
Speaker 7: So when I saw those Steelers' uniforms, a couple things

238
00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,600
Speaker 7: came to mind. They looked like kind of those old

239
00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240
Speaker 7: school crash test dummies that were in those PSAs or

240
00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,120
Speaker 7: those commercials. Yes, and then I had the crash test

241
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360
Speaker 7: dummy toys were a great thing. And then also the

242
00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520
Speaker 7: patches were very reminiscent of like Harry Potter World. So

243
00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,160
Speaker 7: there's some crash test dummy, some Harry Potter it was.

244
00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:56,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

245
00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,680
Speaker 7: And then the pants with the sandy colored pants. I

246
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,600
Speaker 7: was like, I don't know about all this. And then

247
00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,240
Speaker 7: also to Dan's point, I just think the where it's

248
00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,800
Speaker 7: going off with Dan was saying, I think that the

249
00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,480
Speaker 7: Steelers defense is a real liability. After you watch the

250
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,520
Speaker 7: Bengal game and now this game, I don't.

251
00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,240
Speaker 2: Think there's any question that's a liability, none.

252
00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,439
Speaker 7: Because like Rogers scoring the ball, doesn't see me the

253
00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,680
Speaker 7: problem it seems to be their defense.

254
00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it's both, though, I do think

255
00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,000
Speaker 2: it's both.

256
00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,960
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Dan, Yeah, I think that there are times

257
00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,160
Speaker 6: where Rogers does show his age. And you saw it

258
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,120
Speaker 6: last night with the pressure that Green Bay was able

259
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,320
Speaker 6: to get on him. And while he can make a

260
00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600
Speaker 6: lot of great throws and know where's where to go

261
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 6: with the football, it's just not the same Aaron Rodgers,

262
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,760
Speaker 6: and so you need help in the other areas. And

263
00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,200
Speaker 6: it's not to say that Rogers is the problem, that's

264
00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960
Speaker 6: not it. But man, when you see Jordan Love throwing

265
00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,480
Speaker 6: twenty straight completions and having no trouble, and then when

266
00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,640
Speaker 6: Green Bay or excuse me, when Pittsburgh's trying to mount

267
00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560
Speaker 6: a comeback and Rogers's got to step up in the pocket,

268
00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,400
Speaker 6: he just ends up turtling a couple of times. Yeah,

269
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 6: it was not a great look.

270
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,720
Speaker 2: Nope, the turtle is where he really looks old. You know,

271
00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,320
Speaker 2: he just looks like, ah, I'm just gonna swallow this football.

272
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,880
Speaker 2: And then you know they had turnovers as well. They

273
00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,800
Speaker 2: just completely became discombobulated.

274
00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:20,800
Speaker 4: It was.

275
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,840
Speaker 2: It was just interesting on how the Steelers seemed to

276
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,840
Speaker 2: fizzle when the game got pressure filled.

277
00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

278
00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 6: What was also interesting is is this is the last

279
00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,040
Speaker 6: time we saw Rogers was him and Jill Flacco going

280
00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280
Speaker 6: up and down the field. And I think that kind

281
00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,680
Speaker 6: of tells you of where like the Steelers ceiling is

282
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,680
Speaker 6: is they can beat teams that they're better than, or

283
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,920
Speaker 6: Rogers can do his thing against poor defenses. It's just

284
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,640
Speaker 6: are they going to be able to beat teams that

285
00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,920
Speaker 6: are equal or better than they are? And I don't

286
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,760
Speaker 6: think that there's a chance of that. And it's interesting

287
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,920
Speaker 6: because Diana Rassini, in a piece on The Athletic Entering

288
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,920
Speaker 6: this weekend, wrote, the Steelers are actually kind of wanting

289
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040
Speaker 6: Rodgers to come back next year, and I'm not sure

290
00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,560
Speaker 6: if Aaron's going to be down with it. But I

291
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 6: think that ultimately leads back to what you guys say

292
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,600
Speaker 6: is even though I don't think they're Aaron Rodgers is

293
00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,120
Speaker 6: at the top of his game, the Steelers have a

294
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,560
Speaker 6: whole bunch of other problems to deal with.

295
00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they got to, but like their defensive line provides,

296
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,600
Speaker 2: if you don't send Blitzer Blitzer's they provide no pressure

297
00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800
Speaker 2: and we saw that against the Bengals. And you know,

298
00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:31,840
Speaker 2: my guys in Pittsburgh like, yeah, you know Cam haywhere

299
00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,840
Speaker 2: you know it's over the hill, Like, that's over the hill, guys.

300
00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean you just paid TJ.

301
00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 2: Watt. Yeah.

302
00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,200
Speaker 6: I think you're going to get the full maximum value

303
00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:48,160
Speaker 6: from that contract you acquired Jalen Ramsey. That's tough spot

304
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,040
Speaker 6: with that division allows them to be competitive. They may

305
00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, but I don't think there's any chance

306
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,360
Speaker 6: that they sniff a Super Bowl.

307
00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. And I do think that

308
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,280
Speaker 2: people in Pittsburgh know and that it's a it's a

309
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,120
Speaker 2: probably light a match at the end of this year.

310
00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320
Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's

311
00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 2: check in for our weekly visit with our own GM here.

312
00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,119
Speaker 2: Tom Telesco was a gentle manager of the Chargers for

313
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119
Speaker 2: eleven years, going back to San Diego all the way

314
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,520
Speaker 2: through the move to Los Angeles. Of course, last year

315
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,680
Speaker 2: he was the GM of the Las Vegas Raiders. He

316
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720
Speaker 2: joins us every week here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

317
00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,560
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Let me start with the Jets, okay,

318
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,679
Speaker 2: because if you go back to last week, their owner

319
00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000
Speaker 2: comes out and says, hey, if we could just complete

320
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 2: a pass right clearly calling out Justin Fields. And then

321
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is not particularly good in the first half,

322
00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,640
Speaker 2: and all seems lost, and then a funny thing happens.

323
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,280
Speaker 2: Brice Hou Yeah, Brice Hall ends up having a spectacular

324
00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,760
Speaker 2: second half and Justin Fields has a good second half

325
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 2: and they win their first game of the season. Tommy,

326
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,920
Speaker 2: how do you how do you view Justin Fields here

327
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,040
Speaker 2: with his third team in three years, just four years

328
00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL?

329
00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,480
Speaker 8: Well, look, I think he is what he is and

330
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 8: Jets for an office, knew what they're getting when they

331
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,880
Speaker 8: signed them. He's a dynamic athlete, he has a strong arm,

332
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,120
Speaker 8: and he's a really good leader in the locker room.

333
00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 8: He's a good leader as a quarterback. He has those skills.

334
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,439
Speaker 8: It's the pocket passing part of it, the processing in

335
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,560
Speaker 8: the pocket that the decision making it hasn't been great,

336
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,400
Speaker 8: and it's it's hard at this point in his career

337
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,120
Speaker 8: to keep improving at that. Usually at this point either

338
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 8: have that or you don't. But what I like, I mean,

339
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 8: obviously you don't like those comments that come from the

340
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 8: owner last week. But it does give the opportunity for

341
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 8: the GM or the head coach, quite a GM in

342
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,120
Speaker 8: this this case, to sit down with Justice Field and say, hey,

343
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 8: look I believe in you. I signed you no matter

344
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,399
Speaker 8: what people think inside or outside the building. It's a

345
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 8: change that the kind of gets behind the player. I

346
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,359
Speaker 8: show your belief in him, because, like I said, they

347
00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 8: knew what they're getting when they signed them. So yeah, sorry,

348
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,400
Speaker 8: they got Briuce Hall. Bries hauled the ball a lot more.

349
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 8: He's a big time running back. And you saw the

350
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 8: team kind of rally around the quarterback, and obviously it

351
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 8: helped that the Bengals defense just really struggled in the

352
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 8: second half, that they couldn't get any stops. But you know,

353
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 8: it does show you know this, this is the people business,

354
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 8: and as a GM or head coach, to get behind

355
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 8: your quarterback. Look, he's your starter. You sign him for

356
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 8: a reason. You know he's not perfect, but he can't

357
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 8: help you win some games, and I think this game

358
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 8: a chance to do that.

359
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: It's Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, show

360
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 2: the Uh, what's the difference in the injury report with

361
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: the Ravens and say the Jets, right because Aaron Glenn

362
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 2: was playing, Koy didn't want to name a starter, and

363
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 2: he said, it's just because I don't want to. It

364
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 2: wasn't because of actual injury. Right. Even though Toad Taylor

365
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: was coming off the injured list for the Ravens, we

366
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 2: thought Lamar Jackson was going to start, and then he

367
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 2: was pulled at the last second from as a guy

368
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 2: who he's been in this league for thirty years, what's

369
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 2: all this mean?

370
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, with the Jets, their injury report with throughout Taylor

371
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 8: was accurate, and you don't have to name may start

372
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 8: or but you do have to be accurate with your

373
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 8: injury report in terms of what the injury is, what

374
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 8: his practice status was, and then at the end of

375
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 8: the week, what his gained status is. So this is

376
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,479
Speaker 8: all about competitive equity and sports betting, probably more sports

377
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 8: betting than anything else. But there is a competitive equity

378
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 8: to it because there's an advantage gained if you don't

379
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 8: know who's playing. I mean, preparing for Lamar Jackson is

380
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 8: going to be a lot different than preparing for Cooper

381
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 8: Rusher or Tyler Huntley. So it's a big difference, but

382
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 8: brilliant reality. It's about sports betting. That's why the injury

383
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 8: reports started way back in probably the forties and fifties.

384
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 8: But it's so important right now because as you saw

385
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 8: with Lamar when his status changed, I mean the line

386
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 8: moved like six points or five and a half six points,

387
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 8: which is which is massive. So it's the responsibility of

388
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 8: the GM and or the head coach, not the head

389
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 8: train or not not your PR director to be very

390
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 8: accurate with those reports. And we all know the rules.

391
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 8: The league is very stringent on it, and it just

392
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 8: surprises me for for a front office that's been there

393
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 8: as long as they have that that they wouldn't know

394
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 8: the rule. So because it's our job to know the rule,

395
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 8: and like for me for eleven years, like I did

396
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 8: every single every single injury report Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and

397
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 8: the game status, I just felt like it's very important.

398
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 8: If there's any mistakes, it will come from me. But

399
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 8: in that process, you talk to the trainers, you talk

400
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 8: to the doctors, you talk to the head coach, you

401
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 8: watch practice, sometimes I even talk to the player. You

402
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 8: do the injury report and make sure it's accurate. So

403
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 8: I would expect in this case, like there's gonna be

404
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 8: some significant finds at the club, buy some finance at

405
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 8: the head coach and ord GM, just to show everybody that, hey,

406
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 8: this is important. It has to be taken seriously because

407
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 8: you know, especially the way that the sports betting is

408
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 8: right now.

409
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: No question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox

410
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. That's the voice of Tom Telesco, former gentleal

411
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us

412
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: for a weekly visit here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

413
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Scatabo was having yet another impactful game. Then he breaks

414
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: his ankle. Obviously, you know you're worried about the momentum

415
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 2: where the Giants is just such momentum carried by those

416
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: two young players. But player wise, how do you evaluate

417
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: what a guy like that's going to look like in

418
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: the future When he wasn't the most explosive, he was

419
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: just incredibly physical and you got to deal with the

420
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: fact that there's going to be a rehabilitation process when

421
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: that injury happens. How do you evaluate Cam Scattabo as

422
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: a GM.

423
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 8: Well, you'll definitely want to see I don't know exactly

424
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 8: what the injury is yet and what damage was inside

425
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 8: his ankle. Most often he will come back at one

426
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 8: hundred percent if it was an ankle dislocation. I mean,

427
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 8: obviously he's gonna be out for the year, but he

428
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 8: should be going to be back at one hundred percent

429
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 8: next year. Yeah. He's obviously a powerful, strong, physical running back.

430
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 8: But he also has and I hate to use the

431
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 8: word deceptive, but he has some lateral quickness. He has

432
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 8: some bursts in the hole. Does he have the elite

433
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 8: long speed down the field. No, he doesn't quite have that,

434
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 8: but he's shown even in high school. If you used

435
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 8: to see his high school highlights out here in California,

436
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 8: they're amazing. But even in college and at the pro level,

437
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 8: he still has some foot quickness that make some people miss.

438
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 8: And then he has the body controlling the balance just

439
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 8: to spin and turn and get yards after contact. Yeah,

440
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 8: you're gonna look really hard to talk with your doctors

441
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 8: about exactly what happened. That that is an injury that

442
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 8: doesn't happen. It's not a common injury, but it does happen.

443
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 8: He should be back two hundred percent next year. That's

444
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 8: the hope. He brings so much choice and energy to

445
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 8: that offense. Now they're gonna have to pair him, you know,

446
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 8: with another back of a different style, and they have

447
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 8: it a little bit right now with Singletary and Tarrow

448
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 8: and Tracy, but he's gonna be a bell coup to

449
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 8: them moving forward.

450
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: What's going on with Atlanta, Man.

451
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 8: It's it's hard to understand. Their highs are high, their

452
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 8: lows are so low, and there's just no consistency level

453
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 8: with that. Now. Yesterday with Kirk Cousins, obviously the starter

454
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 8: was out, he didn't have a strong game, but it's

455
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 8: just been so inconsistent, the ups and downs. I mean,

456
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 8: they beat Buffalo by two scorers and then lose the

457
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 8: forty nine ers team that's just really dined up by

458
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 8: two scores. So it's just been up and down. Lots

459
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 8: of the Panthers by thirty. They beat the Vikings by

460
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 8: two or three scores. So there's a guy to the

461
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 8: consistency level there. They have a lot of tools on offense,

462
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 8: and I understand yesterday Drake London was out and Kirk

463
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 8: Cousins was a quarterback, but they're hard team to figure

464
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 8: out right now. Now. The positive is, you know, their

465
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 8: division other than Tampa is weak, so they still have

466
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 8: a really good chance to move up and hopefully get

467
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 8: a wild card because they have talent on offense. The

468
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 8: defense has a little bit inconsistent, but they've been a

469
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 8: probably the hardest team to figure out this season.

470
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the green Bay Packers? Are they the

471
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: first half or the second half?

472
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 5: Packers?

473
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 8: Well, I'm always looking at the full game, and they're

474
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 8: a sixty minute team, and watching yesterday, I thought it

475
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 8: was just so impressive. You know, Pittsburgh is known to

476
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 8: bring a lot of pressure, a lot of blitzes, and

477
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 8: Love just just tore them up. I mean his poison

478
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 8: up pocket. He had answers, and that Lafleur had answers

479
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 8: for everything that the Steelers threw at him, and he

480
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 8: just tore up their blitzes. And they got a great

481
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 8: spark from the Emmanuel Wilson in the second half. They

482
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 8: can't run Tardy two hundred and twenty five pounds. You

483
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 8: have some quickness of some bursts, but really physical player.

484
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 8: But you know, you get to a sixty minute game

485
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 8: green Bay, that the defensive gets going, they can rush

486
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 8: the passer. Pittsburgh offensive line if you can get them

487
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 8: in a straight drop back game, which will happen if

488
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 8: you're down, and Pittsburgh was down in the second half.

489
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 8: If you make them pass protect as true pass protectors,

490
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 8: that's not their strength. And the strength of Green Bay's

491
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 8: defense is getting after the passers. So you saw that

492
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 8: show up last night. The once the Packers got the lead,

493
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 8: you didn't kind of see how the defense can can

494
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 8: kind of turn it over from there. But I was

495
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 8: really impressed with with with Love last night. I mean,

496
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 8: he just looks so poised, so effortless in the pocket,

497
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 8: wasn't panicked with the pressure, and playoff standingly well.

498
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs played a night against Commanders. They won four in

499
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: the last five games. What do they figure it out?

500
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 8: You know, a lot of it's just that receiver. Obviously,

501
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 8: getting getting rice back is helpful. It seems like every

502
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 8: year Andy Reid's despagnolo. You know, the year may not

503
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 8: start off exactly as anticipated, and then they kind of

504
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 8: figure things out, they fix things on their run. And

505
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 8: this year's been no different. The Chiefs offense last couple

506
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 8: of weeks have looked like the old Chiefs offense, and

507
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 8: and but it sometimes it takes a little while to

508
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 8: get there. But they've they've kind of picked it up.

509
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 8: But the defense is the one. Their defense has been

510
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 8: the one that's really been the major part of their

511
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 8: team that the last couple of years. And the defense

512
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 8: is playing a lot better right now than they did.

513
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 8: They even in the opening game against the Chargers, you

514
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 8: don't see as many any many receivers running free in

515
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 8: the secondary. They've got power pass rushers up front and

516
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 8: Stagnola's outstanding with his schemes. So the fact that the

517
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 8: defense is playing better and then the offense is trying

518
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 8: to get some weapons back, I think that's been the

519
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 8: biggest stump.

520
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting against the Commanders. Team is

521
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: kind of sort of falling apart. Tom Telesco is our

522
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

523
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: Let's look ahead because this was a weird week, right,

524
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: six teams on a buy. That's that. That's a lot. Uh,

525
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: that's a lot. Baltimore is trying to save their season

526
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: against the Miami team that just went how do you

527
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: handle the Miami thing? Right? Because tool was good yesterday,

528
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, it was really good, but it's been such

529
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: a mess previously. What are your thoughts on Miami and

530
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 2: how you handle that.

531
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 8: With the Miami offense, early in the year, they were

532
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 8: doing some good things. They were converting out third Dallas

533
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 8: scoring in the red zone. We've seen to a play

534
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 8: at a high level. It just hasn't been this year,

535
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 8: but we've seen him play at a high level when

536
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 8: when they really get in rhythm, when you can anticipate

537
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 8: get the ball out. Not having Tyreek Hill is a

538
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 8: big deal right now. But the biggest issue for the

539
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 8: Dolphins has nothing to do with defense. Is all about

540
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 8: the defense. They just can't stop anybody and that's been

541
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 8: a problem all year, with a bit of a problem

542
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 8: last year, and that's gonna be a hard thing to

543
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 8: fix during the season because they just don't have the

544
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 8: talent on that side of the ball. So you're you're

545
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 8: you're totally relying on the offense to score enough points,

546
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 8: which they did yesterday. But look their offense with with

547
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 8: with McDaniel head coach, they're gonna figure out ways to

548
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 8: move the ball, but they just can't get stops on defense.

549
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 8: And I just don't see that changing right now.

550
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: No, No, they can't, and it's bad. And he's an

551
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: offensive coach. And it just feels like they've lost the defense.

552
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 8: They had Big Fangio there a couple of years ago,

553
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 8: and you know, Vick was the coordinator that defense. Or

554
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 8: whatever reason it didn't work out. It goes to Philadelphia,

555
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 8: and Philadelphia's back to where they'd been on defense. But

556
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 8: I'm not pitting the doll on the defensive coordinator. But

557
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 8: they've made a lot of changes on defense personnel wise.

558
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 8: They let some homegrown talent out the door, they brought

559
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 8: in some free agents, they made some trades, but they

560
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 8: just hasn't had the continuity on defense to play well.

561
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Real Quick.

562
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: Uh so the Bill, the Bills have the Chiefs coming

563
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: up next, and they finally played well, but Ed Oliver

564
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: tore his bicep. I think he's out for the out

565
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: for the year. What does that mean for the Bill's defense,

566
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: which had been struggling anyway.

567
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a very good interior pass rusher. He's extremely

568
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 8: quick and explosive inside, so they're gonna miss him. Typically

569
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 8: with that injury, they could possibly get him back to

570
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 8: the playoffs, depending on a couple of things. I wouldn't

571
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 8: think I would think he would be out for the

572
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 8: regular season, but hopefully they can leave the door open

573
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 8: for the playoffs and hopefully get him back. But that's

574
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 8: been the Bill's achilles field, and they put a lot

575
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 8: of effort in the off season into upgrading the defensive

576
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 8: line just with depth, and just hasn't quite come together yet.

577
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 8: I thought they did a pretty good job yesterday against

578
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 8: against the Panthers. The parents have two extra running backs

579
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 8: with Hubbard and Rico Dadel and they kind of held

580
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 8: them in check. Now that helps, obviously when you get

581
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 8: the lead that they had. I mean, the teams isn't

582
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 8: going to run as much. So that could be the

583
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 8: answer for the Bills is you just try and get

584
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 8: the lead as quickly as possible, and that would just

585
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 8: basically shut down the opponent's running game because you're just

586
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 8: not gonna run the balls much and you can kind

587
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 8: of get into your just rush the passer mode. And

588
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 8: I know Joey Bosa had a good game yesterday, which

589
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 8: is always great to see. I love Joey as I

590
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 8: had him with the Chargers. But yeah, but the Ed

591
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 8: Oliver thing is it's gonna hurt him a little bit.

592
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 8: I mean, he's a little bit of an inconsistent player,

593
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 8: but his flashes are very high, and he can really

594
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 8: rush the passer and he can chase things down range

595
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 8: inside the tackle box. So but you know, this is

596
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: a really an offensive team. You're gonna have to keep

597
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 8: relying on that.

598
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: You also watch a ton of of of on the

599
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: college scene quarterback wise, Gosh, I gotta tell you, like,

600
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: is Mendoza the guy? Is he the guy that would

601
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: go number one overall? Like when you're evaluating these quarterbacks,

602
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: of what you've seen, who's been the most impressive.

603
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 8: I haven't gotten into the details of it yet. I

604
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 8: have seen Mendoza. I thought he flashed them things when

605
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 8: he was at Cali, looked like an interesting player there.

606
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 8: I didn't study him, but just by seeing my TV

607
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 8: and he goes to Indiana, he's kind of showed a

608
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 8: lot of those same traits. I don't know if there

609
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 8: is a guy yet. And usually at this point, as

610
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 8: you get towards Halloween, you know that the top one

611
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 8: or two guys kind of just jump out. And really

612
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 8: haven't seen that so far with this group. So we

613
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 8: shall see. I mean, it's hard when we're a team

614
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 8: that needs a quarterback sometimes you start inflating some of

615
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 8: these players values, and this could be the year that

616
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 8: it happens more so than ever. But he has some

617
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 8: traits as a pocket passer, he makes pretty quick decisions,

618
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 8: gets the ball out. He's athletic enough, you know, I

619
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 8: don't think he's gonna be a big time runner in

620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 8: the league, but enough to get to Gray to where

621
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 8: he needs to go. But there just hasn't been that

622
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 8: one quarterback that just jumped up and really jumped out

623
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 8: kind of cam Ward at this point last year, you

624
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 8: could tell the skills that he had, he just jumped

625
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 8: off the screen, and there just hasn't been quite anybody

626
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 8: like that so far yet this year.

627
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: How much of cam ward struggles give you give you

628
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: pause over what he looks like long term?

629
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 8: You know, it doesn't give me a lot of pause.

630
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 8: I think coming into the season, you knew they were

631
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 8: gonna be ups and downs. He's a young rookie quarterback

632
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 8: who just doesn't have enough talent around him yet. Offensive

633
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 8: line is a strong enough, yet they don't nearly have

634
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 8: enough weapons at receiver. I like Taj Spears at running back,

635
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 8: but they just don't have a lot there yet. So

636
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 8: the infrastructure isn't good enough, and then now you take

637
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: out its head coach and coordinator and now they're all

638
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 8: on transition. So I'm not so much worried about it yet.

639
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 8: But there's just a lot of work there to do.

640
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 8: I mean, when you have that many regime changes and

641
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 8: that many GM and head coaching changes, philosophy's change, investments

642
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 8: and different players change, so they have to get consistent

643
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 8: and kind of can just start building this and it's

644
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 8: going to take some time. So yeah, I'm not worried yet,

645
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 8: you know, but it's just going to take some work.

646
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: Tell me the best man. Love having you on the show.

647
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: Incredible insight from a guy who's spent his entire professional

648
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: life in the league. Appreciates being our guest on Fox

649
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

650
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 8: Awesome. Thanks Doug. Take care.

651
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

652
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

653
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Check out a new

654
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. No you searched Doug Gottlieb on YouTube again,

655
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: That's Doug gott Leeb Show. Hit the subscribe button, hit

656
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: the thumbs up icon, comment away, let me know if

657
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: you agree or don't agree with my takes, don't care.

658
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Just check out a new channel on YouTube that's Doug

659
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show and subscribe. Let's get to a game with

660
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Dan Byer.

661
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: Is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

662
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 5: All right, Doug, the game today is.

663
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: A big deal, little deal, no deal?

664
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: Big deal, little deal or no deal?

665
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 8: That.

666
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 6: Kevin Stefanski was asked multiple questions about Shador Sanders a

667
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 6: day after was inactive with a back injury. In fact,

668
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 6: one of the Q and a's.

669
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 7: Quickly, why wouldn't you just to see if it does

670
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 7: anything to the offense, give him an opportunity to go

671
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 7: in there and play.

672
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, my focus is where we are right now, Amrykay,

673
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: that's not my focus.

674
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: Is that a big deal, little dealer or no deal?

675
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a big deal because it's it's a it's

676
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: it's a nuisance. Right, You're trying to coach a team.

677
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: Guy isn't even healthy enough to be out there, and

678
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: she's asking questions about it. Yeah, it's it's a big

679
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: deal because it's going to push anybody else away. He'll

680
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: get a shot eventually. This year they're just not very good,

681
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: but you know, he's he's trying to be fair to

682
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel, somebody that they obviously believed in above that

683
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: of Shador Sanders. So you're gonna it's a rookie quarterback.

684
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna have good ones, You're gonna have bad ones.

685
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: It's trying to flush it all the way out. It's

686
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: a long season again, but it's a big deal because

687
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: the feeling around the league is is if he doesn't

688
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: work out there and he's on the market, this is

689
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 2: what you got to deal with when you're just trying

690
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: to coach football team and he's not good enough to

691
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: do that doesn't demand.

692
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 6: That big deal, Little deal or no deal. That the

693
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 6: Bengals couldn't hold off the Jets getting their first win

694
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 6: of the season.

695
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: Ah, that's a big deal. It's not just that they

696
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: couldn't hold off the Jets. They had a huge lead.

697
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: The Jets could not have been playing any worse, and

698
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: they were coming off a Thursday night win where you thought, okay,

699
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: maybe the Bengals turned the corner and they just choked

700
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: their motor. Big deal.

701
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 6: Also, the Bengals would have been four and four half

702
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: game back of the Steelers with the win over Pittsburgh.

703
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 6: Sure if they would have gotten that win. All right,

704
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: big deal, little dealer, no deal that Dave Roberts let

705
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: your Shinobu Yamamoto throw a complete game in Game two's

706
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 6: win in Toronto of the World Series.

707
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was a gigantic deal. But again,

708
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: who knows if that was even Dave Roberts call. But

709
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: whoever made the call? Big deal? I mean I remember

710
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: when he was going out there for the eighth inning.

711
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: I sent a text on that group text like this

712
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: is awesome, he's going out there for the eighth Then

713
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: he goes out there for then like, what what's going

714
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: on with Dave Roberts? But what was it?

715
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 8: Jase?

716
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: Do that?

717
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 5: You?

718
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 8: You?

719
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: You texted all of us that the bullpen is does

720
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: their best when they're not involved or something like that, or.

721
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: They're they're the bullpen.

722
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that's great, that's game time.

723
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: I liked him in that spot. I really did.

724
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

725
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Chinobu Yamamoto. It's a great name, great name, great name.

726
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: All right, coming next to the Doug Gottlieb Show, What

727
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: did you love from the weekend? Would you hate from

728
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: the weekend. You can flesh out your thoughts, will flush

729
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: out ours. Next on the Doug Gotlieb show Boxchboard Radio