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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back inside this Centure Health Training

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Speaker 1: Center for another episode of Broncos Now. As always, I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Sidney Jones, and coming up on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: the team held their first padded practice of training camp,

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Speaker 1: so we'll hear from head coach Sean paon, quarterback passer

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Speaker 1: Tan and insidelinebacker Juicy Jewel all that more.

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Speaker 2: Coming out.

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Speaker 1: My day was the Broncos a fifth training camp practice,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately, the top news of the day is injury related.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver Tim Patrick was carted off during practice. Head

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Speaker 1: coach Sean Payton discussed what happened and believes it to

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Speaker 1: be is left achilles.

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Speaker 3: I was watching it like directly because he was running

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Speaker 3: around and it was something we corrected earlier. It was

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Speaker 3: kind of on air Planeted. I thought it looked like

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Speaker 3: he slipped, But we're evaluating his left achilles. That's what

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Speaker 3: we think the injury is. We haven't confirmed it until

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Speaker 3: he gets the MRI, but you know, it wasn't any contact.

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Speaker 3: It was just kind of coming out of a cut.

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Speaker 3: His injury last year was on his right knee. So

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Speaker 3: I think the natural question right away by all of us,

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Speaker 3: is it the same leg but we'll wait till we

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Speaker 3: get an mr.

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Speaker 1: Torn Achilles is typically a season ending injury. Quarterback passer

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Speaker 1: ten and inside linebacker Josie Jewels spoke today on what

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Speaker 1: losing Tim would mean for this team.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough break for us as a team, obviously,

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Speaker 2: when you see some like Debt with such a great player.

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Speaker 2: I'm a great leader at Debt. When you see him

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Speaker 2: go down like Debt, it sucks in a way, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I'm wishing him the best,

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Speaker 2: and you know.

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Speaker 4: Just going from there, that's tough. You know, a guy

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Speaker 4: that's worked so hard to come back Torias, but don't

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Speaker 4: know what's happening yet. Hopefully something small, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 4: it will turn really quick. But yeah, never fun to

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Speaker 4: see anybody go down, especially a guy that you know

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Speaker 4: works hard and I just got hurt last year or so.

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Speaker 1: Monday's practice was the team's first padded practice, and for

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Speaker 1: the defense, today's a day they've been looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: Real football doesn't starting in to them, pads come on,

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Speaker 2: So you know, everybody was amped up. Everybody was excited,

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Speaker 2: you know, about the first day of pads. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's just sort of get in our you know, I

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Speaker 2: field acclimated, you know, making sure them pads you know,

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Speaker 2: click and clag all that. So it was good having

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Speaker 2: the first day of paths out there, you know, just competing.

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Speaker 4: Just in our step up. You know, we were going

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Speaker 4: pretty hard, even with the little shells on underneath. But

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Speaker 4: just wramp it up even a little more. I can

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Speaker 4: hit the line a little more and just go play

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Speaker 4: aggressive ball.

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Speaker 1: The team had some physical team periods today and head

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Speaker 1: coach Sean Payn talked about live periods and what his

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Speaker 1: philosophy is when it comes to those.

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Speaker 3: When we get to goal line or short yardage, we

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Speaker 3: might have six eight plays live or we're in full

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Speaker 3: pads now, so it's you know, it's full go up.

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Speaker 3: We're not cutting, we're not tackling to the ground. So

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Speaker 3: we have to learn to practice together this way, and

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Speaker 3: I thought today they did a good job of it.

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Speaker 3: They handled it well.

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Speaker 1: Now joining me here inside the Broncos podcast studio was

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Speaker 1: Broncos lead writer Eric del Eric some unfortunate news coming

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Speaker 1: out of practice today. We heard from head coach Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton earlier discussing, you know, Tim Patrick's potential achilles injury.

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Speaker 1: Really awful terrible to see him go down, and especially

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Speaker 1: given the year that Tim Patrick had and how much

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Speaker 1: he you know, works so hard to get back on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no kidding, said, I mean, you know, we all

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Speaker 5: love this sport. This is one of the worst parts

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Speaker 5: of it, right, you know, you see a guy in

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Speaker 5: Tim Patrick that worked so hard to get back from

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Speaker 5: a torn ACL that happened nearly a year ago to

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Speaker 5: the day. I believe it was August second that he

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Speaker 5: that was the first one of the first days in

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Speaker 5: this happens. Just really unfortunate to see and it looked routine.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's coming out of the backfield, as Sean

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Speaker 5: Payton said, kind of just wasn't even a hard cut,

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Speaker 5: fear at the time we're recording this said, nothing official

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Speaker 5: serious injury and it's twofold here right. One is just

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Speaker 5: what Tim has gone through and you know his path back.

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Speaker 5: You hate to see that for a guy who stood

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Speaker 5: it takes a lot of people two years to get back.

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Speaker 5: certainly with how hard he works, you wouldn't put that

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Speaker 5: past him. So that's one element of it. And then

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Speaker 5: just the team again loses a big contributor, a guy

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Speaker 5: who last year at the end of the year, everyone

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Speaker 5: a lot more than I think we thought when we

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Speaker 5: lost Tim Patrick. He was the emotional heartbeat of this team.

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Speaker 5: And now you've potentially lost him again. And so for

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Speaker 5: we've been waiting to see Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton

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Speaker 5: and now again it's looking like that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 5: So a tough blow both for Tim and for this

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Speaker 1: And Eric correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe

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Speaker 1: a torn achilles is typically a season endering injury.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a long term deal, and uh,

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Speaker 5: you just feel for him that he's he's finally finished

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Speaker 5: to Tim. Definitely, if anybody can come back from it,

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Speaker 5: we heard some guys say that it's him. He's got

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Speaker 5: that mindset, he's always had that chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 5: But listen, he's going to need it. It's hard to

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Speaker 5: we're hoping that he does.

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Speaker 1: Yep, wishing for speedy recovery for him. In other news, Eric,

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Speaker 1: you know kJ Hamler he was also waived today. His

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we knew that kJ Hamler was coming

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Speaker 5: but he is taking a break right now to focus

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Speaker 5: for him. He's got to be healthy. We've seen you

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Speaker 5: but he dealt with serious injury last year. Before that,

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Speaker 5: Hopefully he's able to get back out there. Listen said,

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Speaker 5: like I said, with Tim Patrick, the Broncos will miss

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Speaker 5: it's a little different with kJ right because he hadn't

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Speaker 5: hurts losing AKJ and a Tim Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a tough day for the receivers. Pushing kJ

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Speaker 1: the best moving forward definitely. Eric. You know, in terms

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the defense has gotten the best of

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Speaker 5: a little bit physical. We saw some guys get some

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Speaker 5: He's got speed, he's got a little bit of toughness

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Speaker 5: so to see those flashes early is a good sign.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna take some time for this offense.

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Speaker 5: That's what tends to happen in training camp the first week.

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Speaker 5: The defense is a little bit further ahead. The offense

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Speaker 5: takes some time. But nice to see the physicality out there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, as saying, Bassie had one place at where gosh,

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Speaker 5: it was a physical play. Sean Payton. They didn't really

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Speaker 5: we saw the start of that on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Eric. Another person that Sean Payton talked about was wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Marvin Mims. You know, he returned to practice today

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously he'd been dealing with a little bit of

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Speaker 5: an injury. Yeah it sounded like a hamstring from what

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton had said. Yeah, he did. He did some

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Speaker 5: more on Monday, get out there. I think was involved

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Speaker 5: increase over this coming week. According to Sean Payton, he's

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Speaker 5: he's going to be called on to be involved in

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Speaker 5: this offense. And Sean Payton talked a little bit about

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Speaker 5: you know, sometimes rookies are able to take on a lot,

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Speaker 5: sometimes they're not. Broncos are probably hoping that Marvin Mims

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Speaker 5: can can share some of this workload, can make a difference.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't need to go out there and be the

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Speaker 5: number one, obviously, but if he can be a threat

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Speaker 5: the Roncos, especially now that Tim could potentially be done

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Speaker 5: for the year for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know, Eric, we haven't really talked about a lot

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Speaker 1: is there anyone else that's kind of stood out to you?

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Speaker 5: You know Jael Skinner. You know, fields are kind of

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Speaker 5: the second team guys and everybody else. You know, Skinner

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Speaker 5: physical guy. He's huge, you know, you look at him

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Speaker 5: and he's just really tall, flies around. He had to

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Speaker 5: play the other day before pads were on, where I

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Speaker 5: think there was a little swing pass to the running

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Speaker 5: you know, we'll see what happens as these practices go on.

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Speaker 5: You've got to put pads on for the second, third,

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Speaker 5: fourth in a row. You know, he wears a little

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Speaker 5: on you. But he's a guy that I've certainly got

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Speaker 5: thought Drew Sanders too. You know, he's starting to show

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Speaker 5: a little bit of his athleticism there in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the defense covering tight ends that sort of thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of these guys have dealt with

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Speaker 5: here or there, but seems like knock on wood, that

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Speaker 5: these guys are starting to get out there and make

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Speaker 5: an impact.

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Speaker 1: Well, Eric's second week of training camp is still a

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Speaker 1: lot more practices to.

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Speaker 5: Go, that's right, a lot more to learn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back here tomorrow for some more

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Speaker 1: as well. See you then, Eric, appreciate you joining the show. Well,

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Speaker 1: then I'll do it for today's episode a Broncos Now

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