1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving everybody. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: The I'm a substitute for another Guy addition. As the 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Bengals get ready to face the Pittsburgh Steelers with Jake 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Browning making his first NFL start at quarterback, coming up, 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: I'll talk to quarterbacks coach Dan Pitcher, who says this 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: is an opportunity for him to show that he's a 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: good coach. Jason mccordy from Good Morning Football joins me 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: to share his thoughts on how the Bengals need to 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: rally around their new QB Logan Wilson discusses his tackle 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: last week that resulted in an injury to Ravens tight 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: end Mark Andrews, and finally, in this week's No The 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: Faux Conversation, we'll hear from Brook Pryor, who covers the 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Steelers for ESPN. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: you by pay Corps, proud to be the Bengals official 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: HR software provider. 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It's 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: the greatest thing since Jim Donovan getting a game ball. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: Jim is the longtime radio voice of the Cleveland Browns 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: and one of my favorite broadcasters in the NFL. When 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: the Browns were really, really bad several years ago, I 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: told Jim that if I was teaching a college course 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: on sportscasting and had to discuss how to call games 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: for a losing team, I'd have him do a guest 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: lecture because he never lost his enthusiasm even when the 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: team was lousy. His broadcasts were exciting and entertaining. This year, 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Jim had to step away from the booth for a 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: couple of months for cancer treatments, but he returned last week, 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: served as the honorary Dog Pound captain before the game 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: that's the Brown's equivalent of the ruler of the Jungle, 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: and after Cleveland beat Pittsburgh on a last second field goal, 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: he received a game ball from Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski. 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: It was a classy gesture for a fantastic announcer. Now 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: let's get to the Bengals. As I just mentioned, Cleveland 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh last week and did so with a backup quarterback, 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson. Now Jake Browning will try to 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: do the same thing as he makes his first start 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: since the twenty nineteen Rose Bowl, when his Washington Huskies 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: lost by five to Ohio State. When Jake takes the 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: field this Sunday, it will be his first start in 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: a game that counts in four years, ten months, and 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: twenty five days. Browning is twenty seven years old and 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: has spent the last four years on NFL practice squads, 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: two years with the Vikings and two years with the Bengals. 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: This week, I discussed him and the challenge of going 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: the rest of the year without Joe Burrow with Bengals 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach Dan Pitcher. Dan, I think most people have 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: heard of the seven stages of grief, shock, denial, depression, 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: et cetera. I don't mean to be too flippant about it, 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: but the final stage's acceptance. Did the team go through 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: something similar when Joe suffered his injury. 58 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I think so. 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: I think we all did, you know, And I think 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: it's kind of happens on an individual level. You know, 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: everybody walked in this building in April with visions of 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: us winning a Super Bowl and Joe Burrow leading us 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: to that, and so I think it's natural you have 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: to process the reality that that's not going to happen 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: this year with Joe leading us, and so that that 66 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: hurts and you kind of sort through that. 67 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: We've done that. 68 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: I know I've done that, and very quickly you had 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: no other choice but to move forward. 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Did it help it all that the injury happened on 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: a Thursday and he had a few days to process 72 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: it before practice really kicked back in again on Monday. 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: No matter when that happened, it was going to stink. So, 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if helps the right word. 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: I mean it does. Having a little bit extra time 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: to craft the plan around Jake and for Jake to 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: have that mindset of, you know, is my time I 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: got to go? I think that helps a little. 79 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 4: Bit for sure. 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: We're visiting with quarterbacks coach Dan Pitcher. Joe shown up 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: for training camp in the best physical condition of his life. 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: Then suffered the calf injury on day two of camp. 83 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: What kind of season do you think he was going 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: to have if he was healthy. 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: All I can look at is the progression of his 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: career from rookie season to year two where we go 87 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl to strikes that he made last year, 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: and you can't help but assume that it would have 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: continued on that path. And I think as he got 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: healthier and healthier and felt more and more confident moving 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: around out there, we started to see that and so 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, it's a stepback. It's a disappointment, but it's 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: the reality that we have right now. And I know 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: the way he's wired, he's gonna do everything in his 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: power to get right back to that same spot where 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: he was coming in the best shape of his life, 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 3: and you know, we'll being a shape. 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Let's turn to your starting quarterback against the Pittsburgh Steelers 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: on Sunday, Jake Browning. You've spent about two and a 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: half years working with him. What are Jake's biggest strengths. 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, Jake is very. 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: Intelligent, he loves football, He sees the game at a 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: very high level, and he's done everything in his power 104 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: during the course of his time here to earn the 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: respect and the trust of his teammates. And so everybody 106 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: in this building holds Jake in very high regard and 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: that's an important step to now moving. 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Into this leadership role. And the next step is you 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: got to be able to play. 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: You know, all that stuff's great and it's important, but 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: you got to be able to play. And Jake can play. 112 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Jake hasn't had a lot of opportunity to show that 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: he can play, but we've seen it in practice. We've 114 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: seen how fast he's able to process and make the 115 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: right decisions. He's not Jel. There's going to be a difference. 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: We all understand that. Everybody in the world understands that. 117 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: But he has what it takes to go help us 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: win football games, and that's what we expect. 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: What, if anything, do you think he's gained from spending 120 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: two and a half years of working with Jill. 121 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: I think really one of the things I pride myself 122 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: on is just the environment that we have in that 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: room and together on the field on game day, and 124 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: the openness that exists there and just being able to 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: talk through things and solve problems on the fly, and 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: I think, just you can't help but getting you know 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna get better if you spend time in that environment. 128 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's why I want it to be 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: the way that it is. And he's been there now 130 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: for two and a half years, and so he's asked 131 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: a lot of great questions. He's answered a lot of 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: good questions. He's seen us have to overcome the hurdles 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: that pop up every now and then that maybe we're unexpected, 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: and he knows how we communicate, and so all those 135 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: things should put him in position to have success. 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: We're chatting with the quarterbacks coach Dan Pitcher. People joke 137 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: that the quarterback who holds the clipboard has the greatest 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: gig in the world. One thing I admire about Jake 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: is that when he was the practice squad quarterback, he 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: wasn't content. He would spend his off seasons working on 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: his mechanics trying to improve his arm strength. Was that 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: noticeable from year to year. Yeah, that's why he's here 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: in the role that he's in. He's a better player 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: than he was when we signed him before the start 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty one season, and that's due to 146 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: his work. 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: And that's not always easy because when you exist in 148 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: that role, especially when you were the third guy, which 149 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: he was for a considerable amount of time, the reps 150 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: are even fewer and further between. So to have that 151 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: dedication to his craft, to put the effort that he's 152 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: put in to try to be there as an asset 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: to anyone and everyone. I mean, and this guy spent 154 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: two years meeting with the defensive backs on Tuesdays, watching 155 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: the opposing offense and giving them the perspective of the 156 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: quarterback and what he's looking at and why he's looking 157 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: at it. 158 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: So he didn't have to do that. 159 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: He did it because he's a good teammate and he 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: wants the team to have success. And so those are 161 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: the things that now is these guys are gonna have 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: to rally around him. That's what's earned. 163 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: That respect and that trust. 164 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: His backup is now thirty three year old AJ McCarron. 165 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: You joined the Bengals in twenty sixteen, the year after 166 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: he almost led Cincinnati to a playoff win up of 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. What stands out about Aj at this 168 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: stage of his career. 169 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: I've been with AJ now two separate stints, and I 170 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: believe AJ's and he's a better player now than he 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: was then. He's obviously seen a lot more football. He's 172 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: in as good as shape, or if not better shape, 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: than he was his first time around here. You know, 174 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: I think even if you ask him, he would tell 175 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: you that the knee injury that he suffered in Atlanta 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: in the preseason a few years back now and how 177 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: he kind of just reframed his whole approach towards rehabbing 178 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: that and get himself ready has put him in a 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: great spot physically. So Aj has been awesome, really just 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: happy with everything he's brought to the table since he's 181 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: been here this second time around. And he'll be there 182 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: to support Jake in that role. And you know, hopefully 183 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: we don't need him, but if we ever did that, 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: I know he'll be ready to step into play. 185 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: To be successful. Now without Joe Burrow, Do you need 186 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: more out of Joe Mixon? 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: I think you need more of everyone, Joe Mixon included. 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Need more out of the coaching staff, You need more 189 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: out of the line. It's you know, Joe, Joe is 190 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: the engine, right and and now the rest of us 191 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: have to compensate when a part of that engine isn't 192 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: working like you expected it to work. And so it 193 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: falls on everybody. And I think the nice thing is 194 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: when you look around and you feel the energy in 195 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: this building and you people understand that and they're they're 196 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: embracing it. You know, you could you can mope around 197 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: and think, well is me or you look at it 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: as an opportunity and if an opportunity for all of 199 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: us to show that we're good at what we're doing, 200 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: it's an opportunity for me to show I'm a good coach. 201 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that. 202 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: That's that's I got to prove that now, you know. 203 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: And I think I've proved that working with Joe, But 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, Joe's Joe. Joe's gonna do a lot of 205 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: things that I could never teach him to do. And 206 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: Jay can do some of that stuff too. But everyone's 207 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: got to be on top of their game. 208 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: Let's look at the challenge this week, the Pittsburgh Steelers. 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: The names changed, the results don't. On defense, the number 210 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: seven in the NFL and fewest points allowed. What is 211 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: the constant, year after year after year of going up 212 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. 213 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: Just toughness, pass rush, aggressiveness. You know, coach Tomlin has 214 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: done an incredible job there and it's year after year, 215 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: and you know, the guys changed now they're they're core guys, 216 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: you know, TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward, Maker, Fitzpatrick who you know, 217 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: Whether or not make it plays, we'll find out, but 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: you know, those are just there's some of the guys 219 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: are the best in the world of what they do, 220 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: and then they're always able to find and craft complimentary 221 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: guys to just be the kind of unit that they 222 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: want to be, which is one that puts a ton 223 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: of pressure on you. But just number one, the pressure 224 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: a lot from a scheme standpoint, and then just from 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: how aggressive and physical they play. So you gotta come 226 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: ready for that. 227 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: And we know it. 228 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's part of the It's the gift and 229 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: the curse of being in division with somebody like you 230 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: understand who they are and what they want to be 231 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: and what they're trying to do to you better than 232 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: other teams do. 233 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: But you also have to face it twice a year. 234 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: And so we'll be ready. 235 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: We'll have a great plan and it's going to be 236 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: a challenge They've been called blitzberg for a reason over 237 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: the years. They're fifth in the NFL right now and 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: blitz percentage about thirty seven percent. Is that number going 239 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: to go up against Jake Browning? 240 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: Who knows. 241 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: We're expecting a lot of pressure and it. Pittsburgh, in 242 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: my opinion, is a team everyone obviously is going to 243 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: have different tweaks to their opponent, but there's a scale 244 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: on that right. Some teams are very plan oriented. They're 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: gonna craft what they do on a week to week basis, 246 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 3: and they could look very different. Other teams on the 247 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: other end of that spectrum, are a little bit more 248 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: in the mold of they're gonna do what they do 249 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: and yeah, they're gonna have a couple of wrinkles for you. 250 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: I think Pittsburgh fits more of that style. They're gonna 251 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: do what they do. They like the pressure. They're gonna 252 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: pressure us. We're gonna have to be ready for it, 253 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: and I know Jake will be. I'm bummed about Joe's injury. 254 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: You're bummed about his injury. Everybody's bummed about his injury. 255 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: But I can hear a little excitement in your voice 256 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: about the opportunity that Jake is getting well. You're picking 257 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: up on something that's there because he deserves it. And 258 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: like I said before, we're wired a certain way, like 259 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: you have to view these things as opportunities, otherwise you're 260 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: never gonna have success because they will come up. It's 261 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: a constant. It's going to happen no matter what team 262 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: you work for, how many years you've been in the league. 263 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: These things will happen, and if you let them derail you, 264 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: you're never gonna get to where you. 265 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: Want to go. 266 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: So we just got to look at it that way, 267 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: and I'm excited for Jake. Appreciate your time. Best of 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: luck against the Seilers. Jake Browning started fifty three games 269 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 3: at Washington and the Huskies went thirty nine and fourteen. 270 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: In those starts. He led the school to the fourteen 271 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: College Football Playoff as a sophomore, the Fiesta Bowl as 272 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: a junior, and the Rose Bowl as a senior. Now 273 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: time for the national perspective on the loss of Joe 274 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: Burrow and the Bengals prospects moving forward with Jake Browning. 275 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: You can see Jason mccordy every weekday morning on Good 276 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: Morning Football, and you can hear him calling NFL games 277 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: as an analyst for Westwood One. He was in the 278 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: booth last Thursday night in Baltimore, and I caught up 279 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: with him this week. Jason, You've played in the NFL 280 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: for thirteen years, you were a captain in New England. 281 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: You've seen it all, and you were in the booth 282 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: last Thursday when Joe Burrow suffered his wrist injury. What 283 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: would you say to the Bengals going forward as they 284 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: prepare to play for the first game without Joe. 285 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: You don't have the rally around the new quarterback in 286 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: Jake Browning. And it's obviously always tough when a starter 287 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: goes down. But then for the Bengals, for fans, if 288 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: you're an NFL fan, seeing Joe Burrow go down, you 289 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: just absolutely hate it. He's one of our league superstars. 290 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: He's a guy that when he's out there in the field, 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: you feel like the team can do anything. So watching 292 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: him go down and then the way he went down, 293 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: seeing him on the sideline trying to throw the ball, 294 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: very tough to see. But I will say Jake Browning 295 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: comes in the game, comes out of halftime, leads him 296 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: down there, kicks a field goal. He's a guy that 297 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: got in the game and he played well for them. Obviously, 298 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: the game was they were behind and you're asking him 299 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: to come in and mount a comeback. But I will 300 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: say he was impressive in the snaps that he did 301 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: get in the game. 302 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: It was his first extended opportunity to play in an 303 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: NFL game. Anything particular stand out while he was in 304 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: there in the second half. 305 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: I will say, poise, I think you get into a 306 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: game in a hostile environment on the roll of the 307 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: division game and you get an opportunity like that one 308 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: that you're not expecting. Moving forward for him, it will 309 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: be different. You'll be preparing all week to be the 310 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: guy offensive be tailored around you. You go into that 311 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: game and you're expecting Joe Burrow to continue to play 312 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: as he's done so and then next thing you know, 313 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: you're thrown into the fire. And there wasn't any huge mistake, 314 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: no big interceptions. He got in the game. He led 315 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: their offensive was poys. I would say that's the biggest 316 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: thing because you want to see that from a young 317 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: guy that gets in that hasn't seen much NFL action. 318 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: We're chatting with Jason mccordy. You played defensive back for 319 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: more than a decade. The Bengals have a lot of 320 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: young secondary members right now, Cam Taylor, Britt Dax Hill, 321 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: DJ Turner, Jordan Battle. What do you think of these 322 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: guys and what's the toughest thing for them being at 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: this stage of their career. 324 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: I think it's learning and picking everything up and playing 325 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: as a cohesive unit. You think about the Bengals and 326 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: a huge fan of the defensive coordinator, lou Anarroumo, got 327 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: a chance to talk to him a little bit before 328 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: the game, and over the past few years you've watched 329 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: him in the secondary and you've seen Bits and Boon Bell, 330 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: those guys running it and disguising and moving around and 331 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: doing all types of different things. And now both of 332 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: those guys move on in one single season and now 333 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: you're throwing Dj Turnery, bring me Scot out there. And 334 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: we saw more of Jordan Battle on Thursday night. So 335 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: the main thing, especially in lows defense, is getting up 336 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: to page, being on the same page and their cornerbacks 337 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: coach there, Charles Burke's I played for in Miami. A 338 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: tremendous coach in the way he teaches, in a way 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: he just continues to build his guys up and you 340 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: can see them turning a page. Injury to Cam Taylor 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: Britt was really tough because he's a young guy out 342 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: there in the year two where he's the lockdown DK, 343 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: he's been matched up with the other team's best wide 344 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: receivers and that's one hell of a challenge when you 345 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: actually due, especially as a young dB. 346 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Let's circle back to Joe Burrow. 347 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: You played with the greatest of all time, Tom Brady 348 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: and won a Super Bowl ring in New England. What 349 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: impresses you most about Joe? 350 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: And I don't know him personally, but from the outside 351 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: he's just so cool And you say that and it 352 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: sounds like cliche or something to say about a guy, 353 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: but whether he was dealing with injuries, whether it's an 354 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: up or down, when you hear him or see him 355 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: after a game, or even before a game for that matter, 356 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: he just always seems calm and confident in himself and 357 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: the guys around. And that was the one thing for me. 358 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: I played most of my seasons in Tennessee and one 359 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: in Cleveland, and we didn't always have a franchise quarterback, 360 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: and getting a chance to be around Brady, who always 361 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 4: stuck out about him was his greatness, was his work ethic, 362 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: how he prepared, and just the confidence that he exuded 363 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: when he was out there on the football field. For 364 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: the guys on offensive us you know, Jamar Chase of Tehiggens, 365 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 4: is there any of those guys you always know you 366 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: have a chance when brows back there quarterback because of 367 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: his ability. But I think what it does for an 368 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: entire organization when you're on defense and you're out there, 369 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 4: you know, maybe there's three minutes to go, you know, hey, 370 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: we can get a stop and get the ball back 371 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: or offensive gun is going to do it. The confidence 372 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 4: and the mental that that gives you as a player 373 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: on that field to believe in somebody in that way 374 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: because of what they've proven to you that Joe Burrow has, 375 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: it goes a long way and winning football games. 376 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: It's been a. 377 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: Roller coaster ride of a season. Joe's calf injury contributed 378 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: to a slow start. He got healthy, they won four 379 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: in a row. Now they've got to go forward without 380 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: having Joe available. What did you think of the going 381 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: into the season and is this just life in the NFL? 382 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: Is definitely life in the NFL And obviously going into 383 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: the season extremely high hopes for the Bengals, and then, 384 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: like you just said, Joe goes down with that caf 385 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: Drey and it's a slow start. And I remember being 386 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: on the show saying no team has ever gone owing 387 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: to back to back years and still made the playoffs. 388 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: And I remember saying that. For a while, I was 389 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: just like, Oh, my goodness, they're gonna do it because 390 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: of how hot they got in what Joe Burrow looked like. 391 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: Now moving forward, you have a new quarterback. You got 392 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: to figure out a way to get more out of 393 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: Joe Mixon. He's the guy that when he gets the ball, 394 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: he seems extremely productive. Their offense was just base more 395 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: around Joe Burrow with the ball in his hands. I 396 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: think moving forward, we'll see more of Joe Mixon. You'll 397 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: see a lot of those plays where they're getting the 398 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: ball on the outside to whether it's Jamar Chase with 399 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: blockers in front, and those players kind of gets the 400 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: ball out of quarterbacks hands quicks and gets the ball 401 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 4: in space as well. And it got to Pittsburgh Steelers 402 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: up next, a division opponent who just lost to a 403 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: rookie quarterback and Durian Thompson Robinson, so obviously a little 404 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: right now, but I think they still have a chance 405 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: with Jake Brown. 406 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: You played both corner and safety in the NFL. You 407 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: undoubtedly covered some of the all time great receivers. 408 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: What do you think of Jamar Chase. 409 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase is a guy. I got a chance to 410 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: see him before the game, and my brother sat down 411 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: with him, actually before the Sunday night game. And I'll 412 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: use the phrase my brother said when he first met him. 413 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: He said, watching you play, I'm very happy I don't 414 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: play in the NFL anymore. And that would be how 415 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 4: our characterized Jamar Chase. He's just unbelievable. His ability on 416 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 4: the outside to go get the ball, his route running ability, 417 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: but then you mix that into just his run after 418 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: the catch. He's a guy thats just as explosive once 419 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: the ball is in his hands. And I think what 420 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: makes him so tough as the weapons that's around him 421 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: as well. When you have a T. Higgins on the 422 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: other side, makes it a lot harder to double team. 423 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you saw that than missing Tee those last 424 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: two games. But Jamar Chase unbelievable talent, the way the 425 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: way he goes about his business. How productive he's been 426 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: early on in his career has been fun to watch. 427 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: So, Jason, as you noted, the Steelers are coming up 428 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: this week at pay Course Stadium. Pittsburgh is six and four, 429 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: but twenty eighth in points scored, twenty eighth in total yards. 430 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: Where do you think of Kenny Pickett in the state 431 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: of the Steelers offense? 432 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: They've struggled. Watching the Pittsburgh Steelers is almost like an anomaly. 433 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: You're watching him and it's just like, there's no way 434 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: this team has a winning record because to your point, 435 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: they've been out gained yardage wise, I think in every 436 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: single game except one, and they've still found a way 437 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: to have a winning record or right there in the 438 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: playoff race and if at ended today at the end. 439 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 4: But they've struggled mightily on offense, and everybody was killing 440 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: Matt Canada or cheering fire him in the stadiums, and 441 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: as the seasons continue to progress, Kenny Pickett is really struggled. 442 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: And obviously you can criticize play calling and different things. 443 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: He's missed some throws. Whoever you want to place the 444 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 4: blame on, the offense just hasn't been good enough, and 445 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: Tomlin alluded to that a week ago where he said 446 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: he needed more out of Kenny Pickett in the offense. 447 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: This past Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, obviously one of 448 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 4: the best defenses in the NFL, they weren't able to 449 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: do that, and they felt to the Browns ten to thirteen, 450 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: coming off losing Deshaun Watson. So their team that's right 451 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 4: in the contention of playoffs, But to me watching it, 452 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: if they don't find a way to get more out 453 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: of the offense, they're gonna end up just a little short. 454 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: So the Bengals are five and five with seven games 455 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: to go. If they win this week and they get 456 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: some help from some other teams, they could climb in 457 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: the seventh into the seventh and final playoff seed in 458 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: the AFC with six games to go. Give us a 459 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: couple of keys for what the Bengals will need to 460 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: do to beat the Steelers this Sunday. 461 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, one thing I alluded to is they have to 462 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: find a way to get Joe Mixon going. I think 463 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: get in the ground game. It'll obviously slow the game down, 464 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: It'll allow them to possess the ball for a lot 465 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: longer I think on the defensive side of the ball. 466 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: You just talked about the way that Pittsburgh has struggled 467 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: to put points on the ball on the board and 468 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: be able to move the ball. If Cam Taylor Britt 469 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: whatever his health situations are, they're going to need to 470 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 4: be able to find a way to continue to slow 471 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: down that offense. And Jayla Warren, he was unbelievable. He 472 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: was the one spark club when you watch the Pittsburgh 473 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: Steelers offense. Getting him on the ground and figuring that 474 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: out for the Bengals is going to be the number 475 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: one thing because the last two weeks they really struggled 476 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: against the run game against Houston and Singletary and then 477 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: against the Baltimore Ravens who got the run game going 478 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 4: big time in the second half. I think that's going 479 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: to be the key to him. And then for Jake 480 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: Browning let it loose. I think for a backup quarterback 481 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: sometimes you go in and you're timid, and obviously Zach 482 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: tail is going to design the offense to make it 483 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: a little easier for him. But you prepare for such 484 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 4: a long time for an opportunity to be a starter 485 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL, go out there and play confidence and 486 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 4: just go out there and let it fly. 487 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football is the best sports show on TV, 488 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: and you are a big reason why, Jason. 489 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: We really appreciate your time. 490 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, oh anytime. Thanks for having me. 491 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Paid Corps, 492 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 493 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet design to elevate your home, 494 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: business and community to a new level, and by Cattering 495 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 496 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: is the official healthcare provider. 497 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Of the Bengals. 498 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was not the only great player who suffered 499 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: a season ending injury. Last Thursday, The Ravens lost Pro 500 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: Bowl tight end Mark Andrews with a broken fibula. Mark 501 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: was injured when Logan Wilson brought him down with what's 502 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: known as a hip drop tackle. 503 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: In a nutshell, it. 504 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: Involves wrapping your arms around a player then allowing your 505 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: own body weight to drop to the ground. There are 506 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: studies that suggests that that results in a higher risk 507 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: of injury, and the NFL is discussing the possibility of 508 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: banning that technique from Logan. Wilson's perspective, he was doing 509 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: whatever he could to prevent a fast, two hundred and 510 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: forty seven pound tight end from getting into the end zone. Nonetheless, 511 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: many Baltimore fans and some media members ripped Wilson, suggesting 512 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: that it was a dirty tackle. When word of that 513 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: got to Zach Taylor, he made a point of defending 514 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: Wilson at a news conference, even without being asked about it. 515 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: Wilson discussed the victory all that he's been subjected to 516 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. 517 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 6: It is what it is. It's kind of the world 518 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: we live in right now, and some of it was 519 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: obviously very unnecessary and coming at me and my family 520 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 6: for really for no reason. You know, I wasn't playing 521 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: the game dirty. I never wished anymore when any player 522 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: I ever go against, I play the game at a 523 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 6: I play my birth part out every game, play. 524 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: My butt off, and sometimes those injuries happen. 525 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: It is what it is, But you know I was 526 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 6: People would notice that I was one of the first 527 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 6: people on a knee when Mark went down, because we 528 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: never wanted that to happen to their guy, especially of him. 529 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 5: He's a good dude. I'd never wish anything. 530 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: A part of way, But what was it like to me? 531 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: Zach went out of his way to make sure he 532 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: spoke up on happening. 533 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I saw him say that, that was I 534 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: really appreciated that. And I think that just speaks volumes 535 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 6: of the guy and the coach that he is and 536 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 6: why guys loved him so much and loved playing for him, 537 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: because sometimes coaches would really wouldn't go out of their 538 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 6: way because it wasn't like he was asked about it. It 539 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 6: was like I think it was at the end of 540 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: the conference, So he kind of went out of his 541 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 6: way to say that, And I think that, like I said, 542 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 6: that speaks volumes and that's why I love playing for him. 543 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: How hard is that? 544 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of conversation about the hip 545 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: drop and what am I. 546 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: Look like moving forward? How hard is that is a 547 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: defender in real time to go. 548 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 6: About I honestly wasn't even sure of what a hip 549 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 6: drop tackle was prior to that bring being brought to 550 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: my attention after the game, and so. 551 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: You know, obviously it's something I guess it's. 552 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 6: Something that they're they're looking at doing, but it's it's 553 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 6: hard in the position when you're trying to come from 554 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 6: behind and trying to just find a way to bring 555 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 6: him down. And it's not like it's not like Marc 556 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: Andre's just a small human, you know what I mean. 557 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 6: So you're just trying to find a way to bring 558 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 6: the guy down, and unfortunately that's what happened. And like 559 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 6: I said, I'd never wished upon him, And obviously whenever 560 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 6: whatever they just had to do with the hip drop 561 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 6: tackle going forward, we'll have to adjust, but it would 562 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 6: make it a lot harder if that's what they decided 563 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: to do. 564 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: The Ravens full back Patrick Ricard had this to say 565 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: about Logan Wilson quote, everybody respects him. I don't think 566 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: it was intentional or dirty. I think he's a great 567 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: play I have respect for him and think he plays 568 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: the right way. 569 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Now time for. 570 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: This week's Know the Faux segment as we take a 571 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: closer look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team that's currently 572 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: six and four and holding down the seventh and final 573 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: playoff spot in the AFC. But after a thirteen to 574 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: ten loss to Cleveland last week, the Steelers made a 575 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: coaching change, firing offensive coordinator Matt Canada. Running backs coach 576 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: Eddie Faulkner takes over as OC, but quarterbacks coach Mike 577 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Sullivan will be the primary play caller. Brooke Pryor covers 578 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: the Steelers for ESPN and discuss that and much more 579 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: on the Bengals Game Plan Show this week with Wayne 580 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: box Miller and Dave Lapham. 581 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 7: Let me tell you, it has been chaotic, to say 582 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 7: the least. And my favorite part about all of this 583 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 7: is it's such an unprecedented move that the Steelers fired 584 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 7: at Canada. They haven't famously have not fired a head 585 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 7: coach or a coordinator in season since nineteen forty one. 586 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 7: The news came out via the Steelers social media Tuesday morning, 587 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 7: and Kenny Pickett was still at home asleep because Tuesday's 588 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 7: the only day he can sleep in. And I very 589 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 7: deeply relate to that because I too, was kind of 590 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: dozing that morning until the news came out and suddenly 591 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: I jumped out of bed and just you know away, 592 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 7: I went Brook. 593 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 8: Did you have an inkling? You know, there's been rumblings 594 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 8: in the last couple of years, no seeker, But was 595 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 8: there any inkling that this was imminent? 596 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 7: No, there wasn't. I mean, you're right. There have been 597 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 7: rumbling from the last couple of years, but most of 598 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: that has been external noise. It's been from inside the 599 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: building that this team had confidence in Matt Canada, that 600 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 7: they thought that his schemes and his plays would work. 601 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 7: It was just taking some time. And the message from 602 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 7: the locker room early in the season was this is 603 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 7: not a place this is a lack of execution issue. 604 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 7: But I think that the way that Kenny Pickett has 605 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 7: regressed over the last couple of weeks, he would not 606 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 7: have broken or he didn't break one hundred passing yards 607 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 7: until the last desperation throw of the loss to the Browns. 608 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 7: I think that that was kind of the last straw 609 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 7: for the Steelers saying, you know, we've got to kind 610 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 7: of choose here between our quarterback and our offensive coordinator. 611 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 7: It's a lot easier to move on from a coordinator 612 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 7: that's going to be whose contract expires at the end 613 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 7: of the season than it is a first round quarterback 614 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 7: you drafted less than two years ago. And so I 615 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 7: think that that's kind of what put things over the edge, 616 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 7: you know, looking. 617 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 5: At tape and now after the fact, you know it's like, okay, well, 618 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: well the body language, I mean Picket's body language, Pickens 619 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 5: body language. Najee Harris comes out, you know with what 620 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: he had to say. I mean, it just looked like 621 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: it was time. It looked like the frustration level from 622 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: a player standpoint, and I hit the boiling point. Was 623 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 5: that pretty much it? 624 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 7: You know? I think so. And I think that it's 625 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 7: tough because I think the frustration was pointed in a 626 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 7: lot of different directions. Yes, there's absolutely frustration toward Matt 627 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 7: Canada because this offense wasn't able to fluidly move the ball, 628 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 7: they weren't able to score points. I think there's also 629 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 7: some frustration that they were having with themselves for not 630 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 7: playing better, and also with Kenny Pickett because he was 631 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 7: not on the same page with some of his receivers 632 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 7: like Deontay Johnson. He had several overthrows, underthrows. It's just 633 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 7: been so off target. And so I think that there 634 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 7: were just a lot of bad vibes in general. And 635 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 7: I actually talked with Mason Cole the Center about that 636 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 7: today and he said, you know, I didn't get the 637 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 7: sense that there was necessarily division within the locker room, 638 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 7: but a move like this does pull everybody together and 639 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 7: it does become in Us against the world kind of thing. 640 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 7: And so I think that that's something that can kind 641 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 7: of jolt an offense and get them maybe back on 642 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 7: some kind of track. 643 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 8: You Brooke prior ESPN is our guests in Brooke. If 644 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 8: you had to look at one thing maybe that Kenny 645 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 8: Pikett needs to improve upon maybe to get this offense 646 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 8: in a better place to be more productive. Is there 647 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 8: anything that you're looking at or that seems to be 648 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 8: something that's challenging him a little bit more than maybe people. 649 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 7: Thought, you know, I think to me, his pocket presence 650 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: and pocket awareness has been really disappointing this season because 651 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 7: it was something that was so heavily emphasized in the 652 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 7: off season and in training camp. I mean, I look 653 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 7: at the way that he responds to pressure. He bails 654 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 7: out of the pocket so fast, he gets rid of 655 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 7: the ball really fast. And granted, he was playing Cleveland 656 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 7: last week in Miles Garrett and we saw on the 657 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 7: very first play of the game he got absolutely destroyed. 658 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 7: So I don't blame him for being a little gun 659 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 7: shy in the pocket there, right, But this offensive line 660 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 7: is better than it has been in years past. They 661 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 7: are buying pickt time, but he just doesn't have the 662 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: awareness or the ability to read the field correctly to 663 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 7: make the right decisions. And as soon as he starts 664 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 7: to get a little antsy, he bails out. Is usually 665 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 7: rolling to his left, and he's rolled right into pressure before. 666 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 7: That's how he got hurt in Houston. He ran right 667 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 7: into the defender. And so I think that that's the 668 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 7: biggest thing that I want to see. I want to 669 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 7: see just better decisions both in the pocket and when 670 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 7: he's making his reads because maybe, you know, he lacks 671 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 7: the arm talent to do some of the the you know, 672 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 7: deep throws some things that can make quarterbacking really exciting. 673 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 7: But something that he can improve on in the you know, 674 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 7: immediate is just make better decisions. The play calls are there, 675 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 7: he just has got to move through his progressions and 676 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 7: decision making more fluidly, you know when I. 677 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 5: Hear you say, and it was obvious on tape with 678 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: the incompletion by a wide margin, how quarterback and receiver 679 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 5: aren't on the same page. And it's going to be 680 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 5: interesting how this dual coach filling one position. Eddie Faultono, 681 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: the running back coach, will be game planning, and Mike 682 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 5: Sullivan will be the play caller, but he's got the 683 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: relationship with Pickett. I would think, I remember the legendary 684 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 5: Paul Brown. We were struggling one year offensively, and he 685 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: gets up in front of the offensive team in the meeting. 686 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: He says, here's our runs this week, and there were three. 687 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: Here's our passes this week there were five, And he goes, well, 688 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: we'll run them out of different formations, but damn it, 689 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: we're going to do these right until you guys can 690 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 5: get them right. Then I'll start adding more plays. I 691 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 5: would think that maybe Sullivan and Faulkner may melt it down. 692 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe there was a little too much on the 693 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: mind to pick it and you've got to simplify it 694 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: a little bit, and you know, wrap it over and 695 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: over and over again, and run it out of different 696 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: looks and get the ball to Pickens, you know, in 697 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: a manner where both parties are on the same And 698 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that that's out of the question. 699 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 7: Right absolutely. I mean I think they need to run 700 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 7: the kiss offense, keep it simple, stupid. Yeah, let's don't 701 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 7: over complicate it. We don't need all the jet motion, 702 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 7: all of the movement before the SAT just there is 703 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 7: a way to do it that is not the way 704 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 7: that Matt Canada is running it. Where it was, it 705 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 7: was both very predictable and elementary, while also over complicating 706 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 7: some things and just trying to have him do too much. 707 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 7: And so I think that they really need to run 708 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 7: the ball more. That's something that they've shown the last 709 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 7: three weeks has gotten significantly better. Jalen Warren is a 710 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 7: great back. He's a slippery guy, He's really dynamic. I 711 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 7: think that now he Harris, he knows he needs to 712 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 7: be better. He's not playing like a first round pick 713 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 7: right now. But I think if they can lean on 714 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 7: the run game to get things going and open things 715 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 7: up shoot, then let's move on to the play action 716 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 7: some RPO game because Pikett has proven to be much 717 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 7: better when he's throwing out of play action, and for 718 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 7: some reason, the Steelers just weren't going to it. So 719 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 7: I think if they can do those things, they'll be better. 720 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 7: But you're right, it is going to be interesting to 721 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 7: see how these kind of shared OC duties end up 722 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 7: playing out the rest of the year. But you're right. 723 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 7: The relationship between Mike Sullivan and Kenny Pickett has got 724 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 7: to be a big factor here in having Sullivan be 725 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 7: the voice in Picket's ear on Sundays. 726 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, looking on the defensive side of the ball, 727 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 8: is Minca Fitzpatrick close to returning? What's the status or 728 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 8: what are you hearing about him? 729 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 7: You know, Minka hasn't practiced for several weeks. He seemed 730 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 7: like he was close to coming back against Green Bay 731 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 7: and then didn't, and he hasn't practiced since then. He 732 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 7: didn't practice today, and I think that it's you know, 733 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin wouldn't answer clearly if there had been a 734 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 7: setback in this hand amstring injury that he sustained, I 735 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 7: mean four weeks ago, it's going on a month ago. 736 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 7: But it would seem to suggest that something had happened 737 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 7: because they clearly didn't anticipate it taking potentially four games, 738 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 7: otherwise they would have put him on IR. I kind 739 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 7: of read into the way that Mike Tomlin delivers his 740 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 7: press conferences and the way that he the order in 741 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 7: which he announces the injuries or details the injuries. Last 742 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 7: wing Binko was towards the end of that list, which 743 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 7: made me think, Okay, he's an afterthought. He's probably not 744 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 7: going to end up being able to play this week. 745 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 7: He was the first guy listed in terms of he's 746 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 7: fighting to come back. He wants to be available. So 747 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 7: I last week I felt like there was maybe a 748 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 7: thirty percent chance he plays. This week, I feel like 749 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 7: it's fifty to fifty and it's something somebody that they 750 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 7: would definitely like to have back. Because they just put 751 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 7: Elijah Riley on IR along with Kean O'Neal. It's they 752 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 7: are really the cupboard is really bare in the safety group. 753 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: Boy, it's not bear upfront and it never owns. It 754 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 5: seems like with the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean by Cameron Haywood, TJ. Watt, 755 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 5: Alex high Smith, I mean, these guys are all still 756 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: in others upfront are playing at an exceptionally high level, 757 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 5: and it seems like the Pittsburgh Steelers have had that 758 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 5: going on defensively for forever. I mean Mike Tomlin and 759 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 5: prior to Mike Tomlin. I mean it's amazing how year 760 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 5: in and year out, that is a staple that you 761 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 5: can always count on. The Pittsburgh Steelers defensive front will 762 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 5: be a handful every single snap. 763 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 7: Oh absolutely and Keanus Benton, the rookie has played really 764 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 7: really well. He was really helped out because he got 765 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 7: a lot of playing time early in his career this 766 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 7: year when Cam Hayward was out with the groin injury. 767 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 7: But I think that one thing to note is that 768 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: against the Bengals in or against the Browns in the 769 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 7: first half, they weren't getting any pressure on Dorian Thompson Robinson, 770 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 7: which is concerning. I mean, the Browns have a decent 771 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 7: an offensive line. I wouldn't say that it's an you know, 772 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's a top five unit, but especially 773 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 7: playing against a rookie quarterback, I mean, you'd think that 774 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 7: they would really just get after the quarterback. And yes, 775 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 7: the Browns had a good run game, but at the 776 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 7: same time, it was a little bit concerning that they 777 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 7: just weren't getting any pressure on him. They did make 778 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 7: second half adjustments. TJ. Watt had a much better second half. 779 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 7: He had a sack, how to believe, three quarterback hits. 780 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 7: But I think that that is an area where they 781 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 7: know they have to kind of that's going to be 782 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 7: their bread and butter, especially because the inside linebackers are down. 783 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 7: Several guys with Coleholsome and Kawan Alexander having season ending injuries, 784 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 7: this is now all Aland and Roberts. He played great 785 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 7: last week. He had fifteen tackles, and they've also added 786 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 7: Michael Walker was brought up. They just signed Miles Jack 787 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 7: to the practice squad Blake Martinez to the active roster. 788 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 7: So they're trying to fortify that group. But while they 789 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 7: figure themselves out, it's got an all start up front. 790 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 5: You think Miles Jack will be brought up right away. 791 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what, roberts Man, that dude's a thumper. 792 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 5: That guy as a hitter. 793 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he is a hitter. And I think it was 794 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 7: also encouraging for him, like he knows that he can 795 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 7: play in coverage, although that has not been one of 796 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 7: his strong suits. And he played well in every aspect, 797 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 7: every sub package, in coverage, you name it. He did 798 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 7: it all last week. And you could tell him in 799 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 7: the locker room after a game that you guys know, 800 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 7: is a very interesting place, especially after a loss, because 801 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 7: the group that's the most responsible for it is really upset. 802 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 7: But then you have guys like a Landon Roberts who 803 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 7: like he kind of had a spring in his step. 804 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 7: He just played a great game. But as far as 805 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 7: Miles Jack, I don't think it's going to be right away, 806 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 7: especially when considered he was retired. He was telling us 807 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 7: today that he was working on getting his pilot's license. 808 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 7: He bought a hockey team. He was really surprised to 809 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 7: can the call, and he ended last year. My lasting 810 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 7: memory of him at the end of the season was 811 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 7: he had to sit down in the locker room when 812 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 7: he was getting dressed to put on a pair of 813 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 7: pants because he was so injured and so banged up. 814 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: Obviously that's not the case now, but he is a 815 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 7: guy that has a lot of wear and tear that 816 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 7: they would like him to be able to play. But 817 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 7: I think it's going to take a couple of weeks 818 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 7: before he's up to speed. This feels like an insurance 819 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 7: signing more than anything. 820 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: Right. 821 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: The Steelers are a one and a half point favorite 822 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: on Sunday. Here's an invitation to join Dave Lapham and 823 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: me for the Bengals pep Rally show this week. We'll 824 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 2: be at the Wings and Rings Monroe location from two 825 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: thirty to five thirty on Friday, and our special guest 826 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: in the final hour of the show will be rookie 827 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: safety Jordan Battle. 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