1 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: in Burrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland. 3 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. I 4 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: haven't live on a Thursday edition of the program. I 5 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: am merely Bo. He is the great z. Welcome in 6 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: to CBD on a Thursday. As you could tell. Can 7 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: you can you hear the congestion in the voice? See, yeah, 8 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: you don't sound great, brother, So I've identified. So this 9 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: happened probably two weeks ago. Boots. He had some sort 10 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of a birthday party and and he he fell ill. 11 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And it was kind of cruising through the family and 12 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I held it off. I've I've had it held off 13 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: and um, and then today it got me. It got 14 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: me today. So your hearty stock, your hearty stock. It 15 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: took a while, but you know it happened. Actually you 16 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: get got you just get yeah. So that's why there 17 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: it goes. Um, how are you doing. You have a nice, 18 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: nice evening? Last night it was good. He has celebrated, Uh, 19 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: my good friend Grant Davis, his son Treys graduation from 20 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: high school. And we're able to go. We went downtown 21 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: and uh, it's a little concert and hung out. Was great, 22 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: a great time. So, yeah, yesterday it was good, how 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: about you? It was? It was wonderful. It was, I 24 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: tell you what. It was blustery like he did bluster 25 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: yesterday with the wind. Uh and it's kind of continued today, 26 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: just hot and breezy, and we were gonna go, uh play, 27 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: play a little bit of the golf. We met some 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: friends uh and had some dinner at the club and 29 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna play a little golf. The boys are 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna play. I was gonna watch and um and it 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: was just it was a little bit too much, a 32 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: little too much of much of an oven effect for everybody. 33 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: So we we sat it out. We laid low. The 34 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: sps were last night. I watched about a second and 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: a half. I did see all of this stuff with 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: which is maybe more than you watched. Is my cats. 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I've seen like a clip of Steph Curry doing a roast. Okay, 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to talk to with you, And 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: we actually do have a lot of football stuff to 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: get into too, but I wanted to get this right 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: out of the gates. This goes back to one of 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: the absolute principles that that I've lived my life by 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: and and that is the notion of don't be funny 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: unless you are. And and this is something I always 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: often give his advice for kids on the the toast, 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: for the best man toast and all of this three 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: things great wedding speech advice, no doubt great wedding speech advice. 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Don't be funny unless you are. And if you're not, 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: or if you don't know if you are, then you're 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: not funny. Like it's really that simple. Yeah, and most 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: of you aren't. Like the amount of people who are, 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: it's a very short list of people who are clever 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: of you. It's just true. So um and and so 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: that's that's just the reality situation. That's how I feel 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: about this. These athletes hosting this thing. I don't know 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: what Curry was going for with this outfit. And he's 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: walking around with like either a tequila or a bourbon, 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: one of the two card tel some sort of probably 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: that's what um and just one misfire after another, Like 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: just I have to imagine he was really clamming up 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: because he would drop these jokes and there would be 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: very little reaction to it. It was a little awkward, 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I would say, it was definitely a little awkward. You'd 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: be much better off with a professional comedian like a 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel or somebody of that ilk hosting it who 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: is able to just does this on the Reagan would 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: do it in a way that everybody found to be 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: very entertaining. It has to be a roast like. Manning 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: is probably the only, you know, athlete who could do this. 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Everybody else it's gonna fall short. Manning has an ability 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a tone to it. 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember remember the Norm McDonald sps? Do not, 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a big Norm McDonald guy, But no, 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember that when he went at O J. 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: You don't recall this. It's like a fifteen minutes tour 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: to force of Norm knocking it out of the park, 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: just crushing it. That's what it has to be. That's 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: what it's gotta be. You can't be any other than that. Um, 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: we have news here, my friend. UM, We've got we've 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: got rookies and quarterbacks and players recovering from injuries tomorrow. 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: And we also had quarterbacks here today. Jeremy Fowler. I 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: think the first report Brown's working out quarterbacks this week 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: included A. J. McCarron and Josh Rosen, both quarterbacks worked 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: his backups in Atlanta last season, mccaren suffering a season 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: ending a c L injury in the preseason as a 86 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: second string quarterback. Rosen signed after and later appeared in 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: four games and relief of Matt Ryan. It feels like 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: it was further ago than that that he played for them, 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: but I guess it probably wasn't. Yeah, no, that was it. 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: And and you know, look, this is people are making 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: reading a lot into this. The Browns were planning on 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: bringing in another quarterback, uh, and so I would have 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: don't read this has nothing to do with the Shawn Watson. 94 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I think it's this you need another arm for camp 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: number one and then number two. It's in the event 96 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: that there is a suspension of some length that you 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: need to have three quarterbacks in your program for that 98 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: period of time. And so it makes sense that the 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Browns would be kicking the tires on some quarterbacks here. 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: And the fact that it's Josh Rosen and A. J. 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: McCarron really honestly should tell you all that you need 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: to know about. You know, whether or not they think 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: this is a dire thing Rosen Unfortunately for him. Three 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: starts in two thousand nineteen, goes oh and three, one touchdown, 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: five picks. Last year throws eleven passes. He completes two 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: of them to his team. He completes two of them 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: to the other team. So not exactly a great rate 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: right there of completions and receptions at a one to one. 109 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: But these are guys that you're bringing in and in 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: McCarron's cases, at least played in the league and had 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: a modicum of success at times. But these are people 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: that are here too because a they've you know, been 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: in the league. They can come in, you know, learn 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: a playbook and and participate with This is not anything 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: that I would expect to be of any kind of 116 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: a significance. And and by the way, I would not 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: have had the fact that Aj mccarren's career has him 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: throwing six touchdowns and three picks. Now, he did six 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his first, his rookie year in two thousand 120 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: and fifteen. That's it. That's it. Never got another touchdown. 121 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: What year is that that we almost traded for him? 122 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: Is that sixteen sixteen? Is that the Kaiser year? Or 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: is it the Kaiser year would have been seventeen. Sixteen 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: would have been Kessler, So then it had to be seventeen. 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: It had to be seventeen that we tried trade for 126 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: him because it was the Kaiser. It was the Kaiser 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: year when we tried to Yeah, um no, there was 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: a time when there was a lot of belief that 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: mccaren could be a guy. I mean, you know, you 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: obviously thought that, and a lot of people that maybe 131 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: thought that with the right opportunity, he could be a guy. 132 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Obviously several people thought Rosen could be. It's it's a 133 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: stunning thing with Rosen and that he was. That was 134 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: all that talk was was him or Donald leading up 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: to that there last season at u C, l A 136 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: and USC. You did it in the whole prep for 137 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: the drafting of Baker, but on one was talking about 138 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Josh Allen not on the level of Rosen and Donald. 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: They were viewed to sure things, both of them. And 140 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: here's all this all these few short years later. Yeah, 141 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: and we even had the play by play voice of 142 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: of USC come on and say the guy he would 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: take number one overall is Josh Rosen, which was a stunning, 144 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: stunning situation at the time when he made that that announcement, 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: but no people there were some people talking about Josh Allen, 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: but just that he was a project. And remember those 147 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: the friend of Dorsey that came out from Peter King 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: with the Josh Allen stuff. But I'm talking about going 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: into the seas that they're there for sure. Allen was 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: not somebody who anybody and frankly it was Baker or 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: any of them. It was between these two guys. Allen 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: was a project. It was like, boy, there's a big 153 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: hunk of clay here. I don't know what it can be. 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: And then he actually kind of struggled that year that 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: his last year at Wyoming, he kind of struggled in 156 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: comparison good competition, Yeah, because they had lost a bunch 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: of receivers that weren't there from the year before, and 158 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: so they were kind of starting over a little bit there. 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Um And that's what I do it Um. The other 160 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: thing that I thought about that's interesting from this and 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I always just trying to think about it. I'm not 162 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: as smart as our front office, but sometimes I like 163 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: to pretend that I am. These are two guys who 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: at one point where commodities in the league, and so 165 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: they come in, they learn a playbook, you put them 166 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: in some preseason games. If they flash, maybe there's an 167 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to pick something up with one of them via 168 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: trade or something like that. Who knows, um, but that 169 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: these are both guys where there's a little bit of 170 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: a like they would these two would have much more 171 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I think interest around the league because of pedigree that 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: if you have brought in an undrafted free agent quarterback 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: to be the fourth quarterback. And I'm not saying either 174 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: one of these guys is it, but I at least 175 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: see kind of that that could be a potential here. 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: It's a long way as a long shot, I get it, 177 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: but I do think that there's at least something to that. Yeah, 178 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: I think, And and when people are making again a 179 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: big deal of it, I'd go back to what was it, 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: um two thousand and eighteen, we had I think we 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: may have had we had Tarad, we had Baker, we 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: had broken rowback and David Blow We're here, and then 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: when Stanton came and we ended up we always had 184 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: four guys around. So it's not an atypical number at 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: this point in the year. So I again don't read 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: too much into it. The Browns were looking to get 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: somebody else in here makes sense and to get prepared 188 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: for this season. And hopefully, as we said along, we'll 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: get some resolution. Because one thing you do, you talk 190 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: about our news. There was some resolution today around the NFL. 191 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray getting his deal done with the Arizona Cardinals. 192 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: So that's a that's probably the number one story in 193 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Rights deal done. Yeah, Yeah, that's 194 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: um it is. It is the story around the league. 195 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: It's it gets a deal done at two thirty million, 196 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: thirty turn at thirty point five million dollars hundred and 197 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: sixty million guaranteed on that deal. It fell short of 198 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: the deal that we gave to Shaun Watson in terms 199 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: of total guaranteed money by about seventy million, but it 200 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: does make him, on a per year basis, the second 201 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the league behind Aaron Rodgers. So 202 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: that deal does get done for Kyler Murray. Um, he 203 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: will be there in a long term basis. Interesting though 204 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: still just a five year deal he will have. It's 205 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Watson will be in this camp too, but 206 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Murray's just twenty four. He'll be twenty nine when this 207 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: deal is done. So he's think it's it's a five 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: year deal, right, extension on the two years remaining, so 209 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: it's really seven years. So this takes him to until 210 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: he's thirty one I'm sorry, until he's thirty one years 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: of age, Okay, So he would still have potentially, if 212 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy, potential to land another contract similar 213 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: to this at the time he's in his early thirties. 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: So these guys come to stack these, you know, the 215 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: thinking was that you would you know, I think some 216 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: people thought, well, you'd see these long, ten year four 217 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: million like the Mahomes deal. And what guys are opting 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: for is the shorter deal with a bunch of guaranteed 219 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: money so that you can hit it again because who 220 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: knows what's gonna happen. We well, we know what's gonna happen. 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: The cap is gonna go up and up as the 222 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: revenues go up and up, Yeah, no doubt. And and 223 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: these deals that get done early and get locked in, 224 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: those are the ones that are going to ultimately feel 225 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: like the bargains In a few years, every new quarterback 226 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: is going to deal it gets done, is going to 227 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: reset the bar a lot is being made about the 228 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. My take on that is, for the most part, 229 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: if you are a quarterback who's going to get a 230 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: deal like this, that people think is that it kind 231 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: of is guaranteed money unless you really flop out right, 232 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and in that case, it's good for the team, not 233 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: great for the player. Um I'm surprised I thought that, 234 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: not because of the DeShawn deal, but if the NFL, 235 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: and you see a lot of players talking about this 236 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: wanting to get closer to a more guaranteed context contract 237 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: structure like you are seeing from different places in the 238 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: n n b A and obviously Major League Baseball, the 239 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: one position that would have the ability to lead that 240 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: change would be the quarterback room. And now with Kyler 241 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: taking this deal, that kind of sets that back a 242 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: little bit. And I think what we're gonna see now 243 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: is Baltimore and Lamar Jackson now the tables set right. 244 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: They didn't want to do a deal the first deal, 245 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: clearly the Ravens and Lamar after the Watson deal. So 246 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: if a deal doesn't get done now that this Kyler 247 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Murray deal is done, then everything we talked about where 248 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: we said, oh well, there's some smoke. There would definitely 249 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: be fire in my opinion if he doesn't get a 250 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: deal done very soon after this deal being done. I 251 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: think the Lamar deal is one of the more complicated 252 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: deals in recent NFL memory, truly, you know, because it's 253 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: he's more accomplished than both the Shawan and Kyler. He's 254 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: an MVP, is a unanimous MVP of the league. But 255 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: his style is so unique, and I do think that 256 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: there are justifiable questions in terms of is that sustainable 257 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: for you to compete for championships in this league playing 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: that way? All the while acknowledging as well that everything 259 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: that they've done, they're from a roster standpoint, is built 260 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: around having him, Like they have to have somebody like 261 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: him to be successful the way that the roster is structured. 262 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like he needs them, they need him. 263 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: It's like they both need each other, you know. But 264 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: then how do you settle on number went In the 265 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: back of your head if you're the Ravens, you're like, boy, 266 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: but can we do we want to be into this 267 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: style of play for the next five years? Yes, it's tricky, man, 268 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: It is a very tricky situation. And and there is 269 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: the part of it that is very, very real, and 270 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: that obviously got Lamar Jackson's upset a little bit from 271 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Bernard Pollard when he said, look, receivers don't want to 272 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: play there. In fact, it is a fact. The receivers 273 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: who were there and good friends with him handled it 274 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: with class, Hollywood rounded. But he wanted out so we 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: could go to an offense that's gonna throw the football 276 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: and where he has a chance to put up big 277 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: numbers in Arizona, so he goes there. No big name 278 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: free agent has signed there. Their biggest free agent signing 279 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: that they've gotten a wide receiver was Sammy Watkins, who 280 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: is now considered an afterthought when he signed somewhere. So 281 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: there is some truth to it, and and you're right, 282 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: there is a real question around. From the Ravens perspective 283 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: is of course, we know we can win games in 284 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: the regular season, and we've won a playoff game, but 285 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: can we over the next five years as the league 286 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: continues to evolve, as it becomes more of a passing 287 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: in a space league, are we going to continue to 288 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: be able to compete when really we are a run 289 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: first team that throw has a great tight end, But 290 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: cannot attract the kind of weapons that create havoc for others. 291 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: And and I wonder, look, I think Rashad Bateman's a 292 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: fine young receiver out in Minnesota. We both liked him 293 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: coming out. I think he's got a chance to have 294 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: a very nice season this year. But he doesn't possess 295 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: what Hollywood Brown did, which Hollywood Brown helped open things 296 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: up for them because he could run by a straight up, 297 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: like flat out he had he was a vertical threat, 298 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and they're not. They don't have that guy now, And 299 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: so you wonder what does that do to their offense, 300 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: and how does that impact things, and what does that 301 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: mean ultimately for not just you know, for Lamar Jackson, 302 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: but as we said, for the future of this franchise. 303 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: If if a deal doesn't get done quickly for Lamar 304 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: Jackson again, that means to me that it was not 305 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: as much about the Deshaun Watson contract as it was 306 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: about them being kind of sure because now that this 307 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray deal is done, there's no reason that they 308 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: can't get it done. No, the groundwork is laid. I mean, 309 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: all you gotta do is is is put it out 310 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: there and get it signed in a way you go 311 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: um for for him? There, I wonder my my hunch 312 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: is that they will go with a short term all 313 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed and maybe a really high per year like could 314 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: they would he be satisfied being the highest paid quarterback 315 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: in the league, like even superseding Rogers, like a three year, 316 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: one fifty all guaranteed, Like is that something that makes 317 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: to me? That's always what's made sense between them and him, 318 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: is something like that, that's a short term, big money. 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Here's here. We're really appreciative. We know you're critical to 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: right now. Give it all to him right now. And 321 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: then you know you've talked about it again in a 322 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: few years. Yeah, you talking about you know guy that 323 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: we've had on the program before, Jason lacking for who 324 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: works in Baltimore, on their one oh five point seven 325 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: The Fan, and he said the case for his fifty 326 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: million dollar year fully guaranteed, it's strong, the markets moving 327 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: in his flavor, um in his favor, I should say, Wills, 328 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: does that get done? Is that the way they go? 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: And like I said, if it not? If not, what 330 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: does that mean for them? Because they're a team that 331 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: I think is is too good to be bad. But 332 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: without him would be too bad to be good. So 333 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: how do they Where would they be in the NFL landscape. 334 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: It feels like they're being a little bit of a purgatory. 335 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: So really they don't have any choice to go but 336 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: to go with him and hope that he can continue 337 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to refine his passing game and be able to throw 338 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: the football to moving targets. He's very good against zone. 339 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: When guys can sit down and have their there's chest 340 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: to him. That's when he's at his best. He does 341 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: throw a nice vertical ball, but teams realized once they 342 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: started blitzing him last year, once they were able to 343 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket because of blitzers, it limited 344 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: his effectiveness And so that's a that's a very real thing. 345 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Incredibly talented scares me every time he has a ball. 346 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he bet a touchdown. They beat us in 347 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: a game in which he threw four interceptions, and the 348 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: one touchdown that I do remember him throwing was insane. 349 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: He ran around for about eight yards and then lofted 350 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: one to the back of the end zone after we 351 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: couldn't catch him on a plate that started at the twenty, 352 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: and I think he threw it from his own thirty five. Right, yeah, yeah, 353 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: that's it. I don't know, Yeah, that's that's the way 354 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: that that goes with him. You did a Sammy Watkins 355 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: which is clearly a play on a Randy Watson, which 356 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: got me thinking. You think when they were doing Coming 357 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: to America, was Randy Watson do you think related to 358 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: the air Eric Lassal character or were they completely no 359 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: relation there other than the fact that they both like 360 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: the Jerry curl Is preferred hair. Great question. I don't 361 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: know the answer. I never thought of them as being related. 362 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: They're in the same room, they have the exact same hair. 363 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Probably not. I'm guessing they weren't, because wasn't wasn't the 364 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Eric Lassal character. Wasn't his like he was the heir 365 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: to soul Glow? Wasn't he? He was the heir to 366 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: soul Glow? And Randy Watson did not seem to be 367 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: into that into that family. No, but he did enjoy 368 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: the product it appeared. Yes, yeah, episode Randy Watson. Yes, 369 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: so good, so good. That's on in rotation. Did you 370 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: watch the sequel? You know, I never did, surprisingly and 371 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything that compelled me to watch it. No, 372 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: I didn't either. I didn't hear a single positive review 373 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: of it, and sometimes sometimes it's better to just leave 374 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: these things and leave the original and all its glory. 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: I will say, however, I did participate. I felt like 376 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: last night and Stranger Things, Uh, miss k Or if 377 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: you follow me on on any of the socials, but 378 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: this one would be the Graham, which I keep it 379 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: pretty tight on the grim because where I put all 380 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: my family stuff. Uh. We drove home last night to 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: a what I would call a pinkish gray sky that 382 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: had was having lightning just in the clouds the entire 383 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: way home that looked just like Stranger Things. It was 384 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: I I don't recall having ever seen anything like it. 385 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: It was wild. We got hit. I've not seen Stranger Things, 386 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: but we experienced the same thing. If we got we 387 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: got home last night, it was um, it was like 388 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: eight thirty and it was really raining and lightning, but 389 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: it was bright like like it wasn't as dark. It 390 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: should have been dark and it wasn't. It was really 391 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: really bright. Um. So it was the strangest damn thing. 392 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: And I know we had severe weather yesterday, but I 393 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: didn't see anything in terms of if you know, there 394 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: was electricity out or anything like that. I didn't see 395 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: that throughout the region. Nothing like that. But a good deal, 396 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: a great deal of rain yesterday in the evening. So uh, 397 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: there you go. That's where you stand on that. All right, 398 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: lots of fun on the program today. Do we have 399 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Nick Shook on? Is he actually on? It looks like 400 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: he's on. That's what That's what I'm told. A parade 401 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: of stars. This is really the friends of the program, 402 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: some of our great friends right joining us here. Yeah, 403 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: you got that to look forward to. You've got a 404 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: little Safety's preview to look forward to in the second 405 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: hour of the program as well. It's a mail bag 406 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. My goodness, just pure joy. 407 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: For two hours here, kids were off and running. 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And they're not going against the Cowboys. 418 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, like you play on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys. 419 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: That's come on, come on, this is a slick This 420 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: is a slick one. I like this look for them. 421 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a great look. It's one of my 422 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: favorites I had. I had an old school let's see 423 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: in that particular jersey because it's got kind of like 424 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: the shoulder patches and whatnot. I had the had a 425 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. I had a romo at a playmaker at 426 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: one point. One is strong. That's a strong play Prime. 427 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Prime is pretty good in that too, if you know him, 428 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: and anything is always pretty good. So that that's a 429 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: slick look that they're bringing that back. Um, I think 430 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: we'll see more and more of these trickle out. Right, 431 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: you can see more and more these start to trickle out. 432 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: It feels like one's one's coming every day, is what 433 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: it feels like. So okay, keep them coming, keep them coming. 434 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: I think again, as we've said and we're just lobbying 435 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: right now. There's these are not scores, but a white 436 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: lid for us would be great. We need the Buccaneer 437 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: to come back, the white and the white with the Buccaneer. 438 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Houston oilers from the Titans, since 439 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: they're such cruds and they won't let the Oilers just 440 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: have the Houston football team. The Texans have a an 441 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: oiler's color yep, which is ridiculous. I'm also with you. 442 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Let's just make our own blue and your face. It's 443 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: just get around it. There's ways to get around it. 444 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Like they don't own every shade of light blue that's 445 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: specific find but pick another one. I mean there's all 446 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: sorts of of light blues out there. Um, speaking of 447 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks, you mentioned them as a as a potential 448 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: where they need to bring the cream sickles back. By 449 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: the way, do it before you lose Brady man, like, 450 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: sell some creamsickle Bradies. Let's let's get on it boys, 451 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Let's have a little bit of marketing sense here. Um. 452 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: The Bucks signed Gronks replacement yesterday, Kyle Rudolph, to a 453 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: one year deal. Brady jokingly told the tight End that 454 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: he can't be his first read because he went to 455 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Of course, there was a time when Michigan 456 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame played all the time, and we're pretty 457 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: big rivals. They haven't a yeah, they haven't played much 458 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years or so. But when Brady 459 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: was there, that was that was one of those standard 460 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: games you opened the season was was Michigan and Notre Dame. 461 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: A twenty year old would have a fan of either 462 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: one of those teams would have no idea about that. Now, 463 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: their kids at Michigan and Notre Dame right now would 464 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: have no clue about that, no huh. And there was 465 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a I mean for us, that was the That game 466 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: was always one of the first three or two or 467 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: three weeks in the season. If you were our age, 468 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: they always opened they was early was was that game 469 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: was the Notre Dame Michigan game, and it was it 470 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: felt like who It felt like Notre Dame wanted a 471 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: lot when I was a kid, like they consisted. It 472 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: felt like they always won the game. But I'm sure 473 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: that's just kind of the way that I remember it. Um, 474 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: But both of those programs, I mean, it's been since 475 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: n since Michigan since Notre Dames won a national title 476 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: from Michigan, So it's been a minute. As a kid, 477 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: felt like Notre Dame was the one that was on 478 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: TV most for me growing up and was the team 479 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: that was you know, that was the big college football team, 480 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Like that's what it was. And as we know, that 481 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: is no longer the case. They still have been competitive 482 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: at times, but to your point, have not won a 483 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: title and and you know, almost forty years now, and 484 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: for Michigan it's you know, twenty five years since the 485 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: day great Chucky Wood. Yeah, a big change, a lot 486 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: of change in both of those. In both of those 487 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame I think runs the risk of almost 488 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: I really think they've got to get into the big ten. 489 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: I really do. That's again just my opinion. They're gonna 490 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: otherwise what's it gonna be in? You know, it's funny 491 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: you're saying Notre Dame Michigan, like Notre Dame USC has 492 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: been their big game for a while, but that in 493 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: my mind, that hasn't been a big game since like 494 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Mantai Tao, Oh it's been a while. Yeah, I mean 495 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: because there it hasn't been often when they've both been 496 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: good at the same time that is their biggest rival 497 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: is usc UH now is absolutely at the time that 498 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: if you are the Big Ten, you say right now 499 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: or never. And if you guys say never, then understand 500 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: that USC is not gonna play You understand Michigan is 501 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: not gonna play you. UM. The other thing the Big 502 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: ten could do, and I do think this makes a 503 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: little bit of sense, is you know, they get the 504 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame buying, and it's really the only logical place 505 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame is in the Big Ten with all 506 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: of the rivalries that would be there. The other play 507 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: I think for the Big Ten there was a lot 508 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: of talk about Oregon and Washington. I'm wondering if it 509 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: would more be Stanford and cal would be the two 510 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: that they would add to get to twenty UM. Many 511 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: of the Big ten institutions, including Michigan, really fancy the 512 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: academic side of things. You're not gonna do better than 513 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Cal and Stanford. From that perspective, it would give you 514 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: basically the state of California from l A to to 515 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: the Bay Are. You get both get the tech sector 516 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: and all that comes with that. And I think if 517 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: you give Cal a hundred million dollars a year and 518 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: a TV deal. They're going to quickly get out of 519 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: the debt that they have in their athletic department. That 520 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: that turns over pretty quickly so to me. That And 521 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: by the way, Stanford plays Notre Dame all the time. 522 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of Initially a lot 523 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: of people were saying Oregon and Washington, but I think 524 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: actually the ones that make the more sense would be 525 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: Berkeley and and Stanford. Um. The other thing interesting about 526 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Free Day, yeah, not optimistic, not optimistic there. I think 527 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: the other thing that's interesting for you growing up, I 528 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: mean if if you had grown up in the Bay Area, 529 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: such as myself, of course you'd be aware that that 530 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: both Michigan and Notre Dame, just Pilford, that area conquered 531 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: De Lasal like those kids, So many of those kids 532 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: went to Michigan and Notre Dame. Um in the heyday 533 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: of money, Oh yeah, there was a lot of those 534 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: guys in the late eighties, early nineties. It went from 535 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: the Bay Area to Notre Dame into Michigan. Well, there 536 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: are a lot of schools in the Bay Area that 537 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: are brothers of the Holy Cross Schools, which and the 538 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: founder of that was Basil Moreau, which my school was 539 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: named after him. But that's Notre Dame is in that 540 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Like even in my high school, 541 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: which was a part of that network, there was a 542 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: ton of go to go to Notre Dame, Go to 543 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Notre Dame is where you want to try 544 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, yeah, it makes all the sense in 545 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: the world really quickly here, I know, we get shook 546 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: coming up. Jason mccordy added to the Good Morning Football Team, 547 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: So will we Jimmy here at all, Shreigs and Brandt 548 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: will Selva and Jason mccordy will be the Good Morning 549 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Football crew and Jason mccorty representative of course by the 550 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: agent to the Stars, Andy Sims shout out and oh 551 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: very good Sims. A nice, very good to hear there. Yeah. Um, 552 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough to duplicate the magic they had previously, 553 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: but they're given it to run at it with this 554 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: group certainly, all right? Uh nick a f C North 555 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: Preview biggest storylines heading into camp that's coming up next. 556 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Listen Clean Round Daily Ones and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily 557 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Cleveland What a real treat. A little bit 558 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: of an f C North conversation with that. We had 559 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: it on the hotline from conversations with our great friend 560 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: of NFL dot com. How you doing, buddy, I'm fantastic. 561 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you always refer to me as my appearance 562 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: as being a real treat, because it's a real treat 563 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: to come on this show and talk with you guys. Well, 564 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: it's a lift service. It's the truth. It was when 565 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: you were in the building, it is now. It's I 566 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: have I'm filled with joy anytime I get to talk, 567 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: we all get to talk to you, We're all filled 568 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: with joy, my friend. UM, let's start here a f 569 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: C North preview, as if you look at this division, 570 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: is this clearly in your mind the second best division 571 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: in football? Oh well, I think the FC East would 572 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: like to lay claim to that. Um. You know, you 573 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: start with the f C West and everything that's happened 574 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: there in the off season, and then you kind of 575 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: shift throughout the conference because quite frankly, we're a little 576 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: bit lopsided now, at least on paper, the NFC has 577 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: gotten weaker. There are still some contenders, of course, but 578 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, the NFC West has something to say about 579 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: that with the Rams and the Niners and and the Cardinals. 580 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: But um, you know, on the a f C side, 581 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: you you can't kind of ignore what's happened in the East. 582 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots might surprising folks by getting back 583 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year, and I grant they got 584 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: blown out and you know in Super wild Card weekend 585 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: at the hands of the division rival Bills to recruit 586 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: they clearly the king of that division. But the Dolphins, 587 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, would like to say that they're in a 588 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: better position now. Of course, there's a lot that's uncertain 589 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: with them. They've got a new head coach and Mike McDaniel. 590 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: They've got some pieces in there that are new as well, 591 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Harry kill being one of them, to Ron Armstead another um. 592 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: And you have a quarterback who is has not yet proven. 593 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: You you look at the combination of the two and 594 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: and then you go back to the an f C 595 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: North and you think, well, uh, this division is still 596 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. You got the team that that that when 597 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: the a f C uh last year, You've you've been 598 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati Benglets. You've got the Browns, who you 599 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: know made the playoffs two years ago but kind of 600 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: fell backward last year, but also have some new additions 601 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: that have the optimism running high. Of course, if you 602 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: have your quarterback for most of the season and Deshaun 603 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Watson as well. You've got the Bengals all right, You've 604 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: got the Ravens excusing who do have Lamar Jackson but 605 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: has some questions the answer as well. And then you've 606 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: got the Steelers who are in a bit of a 607 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: transition phase. So I think they're in contention with probably 608 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: talking about the NFC West and the f C East, 609 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a clear answer. Sad, it 610 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: is sad, Yeah, Nick Chuck, all right, let's go through 611 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: it here. What Let's start with the Browns. We know 612 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: what the biggest storyline for the Browns is. Let's take 613 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll find out soon enough, hopefully what the result is 614 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: and what that means for Deshaun Watson. Let's take a 615 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: look at the rest of this roster. What intrigue to 616 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you about this football team? What are the shrinks? What 617 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: do you need to see elevate for this team to 618 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: achieve its goals? Well, um, I'm intrigued on a concerning 619 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: side by the defensive interior. I think that you've got 620 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: some exciting young players there, perry On Wintry being one 621 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: of them, but a lot of question marks just because 622 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: they haven't played a lot and haven't proven necessarily that 623 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: they're reliable at this point. But you know, you are 624 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: happy to have Ja Debbian clowning back off the edge, 625 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Walker backs as a veteran presidence in the linebacking corps. 626 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what j Ok does in 627 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: year two. Jeremiah was a cormoa um and you have 628 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: a secondary that's strong, you know. I think Grant Delpot 629 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: was trending upward last year and it is kind of 630 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: one of those under the radar guys who could play 631 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: a key role for the Browns this year. You've got 632 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward locked up on our new contract where it's 633 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: a hundred point five million dollars, and Greg News and 634 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: another guy who I think, you know, people who are 635 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: paying attention to realize how good he played as a 636 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: rookie last year, but it's that second year do they 637 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: make that next step and they make the leap um. 638 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: I think he's in good position as well. Uh, there 639 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: are question marks in other places, you know, I mean 640 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: at center, you've got to replace j c Utter, uh 641 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Nick Harris and Ethan Posi being the two guys there 642 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: that you're looking at to replace him. And the receiving corps. 643 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, Amari Cooper was a big acquisition, another one 644 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, it made some news at 645 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: the time, but then the receiver market exploded some people 646 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of forget about that. But you know, other than that, 647 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: you've got David Bell, who had drafted, who you're going 648 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: to rely on to kind of serve in the Jarvis 649 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: Landry role. But he's the young guys who he's gonna 650 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: have to get his feet under him. I need to 651 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: see more out of Anthony Schwartz development as a receiver. 652 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, we know he's got speed, but he needs 653 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: to become more of a complete, polished receiver. And the 654 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: guy I love the most too, I'm waiting to break 655 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: out Donovan People's Jones, who has flashed star capability and 656 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: just needs to do it over a complete season. He's 657 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: going to get more of an opportunity this year, I think. 658 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Um And depending on how this offense meshes together, whoever 659 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: is playing quarterback, however that situation plays out, the ceiling 660 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: is high. It's just um, you know, the only group 661 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: you can really count on right now is the running 662 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: back room with Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and and 663 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the other additions made as well. So there are some 664 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: question marks, but it is a very intriguing team, which 665 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: if all those pieces come together, that can be a 666 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: very good team. Nick, let's stay there for a second, 667 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: and just if you would for me. Eventually, Deshaun Watson 668 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: is going to play for this football team, and we 669 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: hope it sooner rather than later. But you know, at 670 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: some point he is and and this roster will be 671 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: as Andrew Berry designed it to be. When that is 672 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: the case, where does this roster in your mind match 673 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: up with the other three in this division? Oh, I 674 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: think it's good enough to with Deshaun Watson on the field. 675 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: I think it's god enough to win the division. You know, 676 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is a proven receiver. He's a proven number 677 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: one guy that Watson can lean on. Um, you know 678 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: what you get out of your backfield, and for the 679 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: majority of the rest of your offensive line, you also 680 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: know what you're getting out of them, provided they're healthy. 681 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, David Najoku coming back at tight end signing 682 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: that extension. I'm waiting for him to be another guy 683 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: who takes that next step because we've known how athletic 684 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: of a player he is. He came into the league 685 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: extremely young. It seems like he's kind of getting his 686 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: feet under him finally and could end up being a 687 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: big time playmaker for them as well. So, you know, 688 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: if all that stuff comes together, I think you can 689 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: definitely win the division. You know, the Bengals reached the 690 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. A lot of people see it 691 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: as a flash in the pan. I'm not quite one 692 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: of those people. But they also got a lot of 693 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: luck in terms of health. They only really had one 694 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: significant injury, and that was the right tack O'Riley Reef, 695 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: which came back to bite them in the Super Bowl. 696 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: And they've invested accordingly, getting Leo Collins, getting Ted Harris 697 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: and now it's capital kind of shot up that offensive line. 698 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I tend to think that they'll come 699 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: back to earth a little bit this year. And if 700 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: they do, and if the Browns, you know, can get 701 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: a half of a season at Deshaun Watson, I think 702 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: they'll be right there in contention for the division title. 703 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 1: The Ravens are always somebody that you have to expect 704 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: you're going to have to battle with. Um, so I 705 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: don't discount them at all. Um. And then the Steelers, 706 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, They're big thing is is quarterbacks. So I 707 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: think the Browns are in a good spot to go 708 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: win the division, provided they can get you know, half 709 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: a season or so out of the Shaun Watson you 710 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: mentioned the Ravens. What do you make of this team 711 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: and the predicament that it is in, and Bow and 712 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: I were talking about this earlier. On one hand, you 713 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: have you know, Bernard Pollard saying receivers don't want to 714 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: play here. That clearly ruffled the feathers of Lamar Jackson. 715 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: And yet the evidence would indicate that he was probably right. 716 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: No big free agents have wanted to go there. The 717 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: best they got was like a Sammy Watkins last year. 718 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown wanted to leave, and their offense is built 719 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: really around Lamar Jackson, and yet so far they have 720 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: not gotten a deal down. Now, I think if with 721 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: Kyler getting done, that means it should happen soon. And 722 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: if it doesn't, then I'd really be worried. But where 723 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: is this team and this offense, given the trends in 724 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: your mind of the league in general, and what that 725 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: means for the Ravens in terms of the decision to 726 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: make a long term investment in a quarterback who's gonna 727 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: play in a style that is different than the majority 728 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: of the elite teams. Yeah, it's a style. It's different. 729 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: You're right, it's a unique situation because you know, at 730 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: their best, they're a run first team that pounds it 731 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: against opposing defenses and and wins with unpredictability, with the 732 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: ability to run you know, the read option or whatever 733 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: it is, and have to always account for being able 734 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: to be attacked on the ground at multiple angles because 735 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: of the talent that they have. And last year is 736 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: not really much of a litmus test for them because 737 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: of all the injuries they suffered. But you're right the 738 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: passing game, surprisingly, I think they finished thirteenth in passing 739 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: last year, and it was it was an improvement, a 740 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: noticeable improvement, but it was almost forced because, as Lamar 741 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: had said prior, they became a little too predictable offensively, 742 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: they were a little bit too one dimensional. But even 743 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: with that improvement in the passing game, as a team, 744 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: they weren't really that much better. They failed to reach 745 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Injuries, of course, had a lot to do 746 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: with that. But right now, you look at the roster 747 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: and you look at the receiving corps, and the guy 748 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: that they had the highest hopes for in Rashad Bateman, 749 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: who struggled with injuries early in the season last year, 750 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: is essentially the number one receiver. So there is a 751 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: little bit of truth to the idea that receivers don't 752 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: want to play there, at least as of now. When 753 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, who was a very good tight end is 754 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: leading your team and receiving, um, I think you need 755 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: to find a way to, you know, increase the output elsewhere, 756 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: and you lose the guy who led them in receiving 757 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: last year in Mark Keith Brown, who wanted to leave. 758 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: He wanted to go play with his buddy, who probably 759 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: gave him a better situation, a better opportunity to improve 760 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: on his production. So it's a bit of an identity crisis. 761 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Because Greg Roman still there is the o c I 762 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: expect him to try to adjust accordingly, but even after 763 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: adjusting last year, they're still kind of running into the 764 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: same questions, who are you as an offense, Can you 765 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: be an offense that's good enough to compete? And I 766 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: keep going back to that Thursday night game they played 767 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: in Miami where they basically just edge blitz them and 768 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: contained Lamar the best way I've seen a defense approached 769 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson since Week four of the twenty nineteen season, 770 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: when the Browns boxed him in and ended up blowing 771 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: out the Ravens in Baltimore. So, um, it's gonna continue 772 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: to be a question mark, and I understand how that 773 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: factors in the contract negotiations. It's also a strange situation 774 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: with that contract because Lamar, according to the Ravens, has 775 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: not been very interested in talking about a contract. And 776 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: I get that to extent. You want to stay focused 777 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: on the season ahead, but also you're in a position 778 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: to capitalize. Do you really want to take that risk 779 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: going into your fifth year and maybe bank of the 780 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: franchise tag the following year after coming off of an 781 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: ankle injury that caught your sheet your season short. I'm 782 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: not so certain that's the best business decision. So a 783 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of question marks there. Um. As a team, you 784 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: know they're getting a lot back on defense in terms 785 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: of guys coming back from injury. They've also made some 786 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: nice to sations, Marcus Williams being one. We'll see what 787 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's does. He's a rookie. The other safety um 788 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: and and so they should be stronger on that side 789 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: of the ball. But again, it's always gonna come down 790 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: to their offense, and right now I don't have I 791 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: don't have the example that I could rely on to 792 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: really accurately predict how they're going to perform because there's 793 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: just too many variables. Well, Nick, the other thing too, 794 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: is like their injuries. You mentioned that, you know, guys 795 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: coming back from injury. I mean in some cases catastrophic 796 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: like these are major injuries, Like we had some guys 797 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: knocked and they're back and they're healthy. But you know, 798 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: there's there's talk that some of their guys might not 799 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: be back until towards the end of camp, so maybe 800 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: big time injuries they have to come back from. Yeah, 801 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: one of them being JK. Dobbins, who you know, got 802 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of social media beast this week after 803 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, seeing reports that he might start on the 804 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: pup list. I mean that's look, they coled together a 805 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: veteran backfield led by Devonte Freeman last year and Latavious 806 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: Murray was also back there. Those guys are gone. I 807 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: know they don't want to be in that position again. 808 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: And they've stocked at their roster with a lot of 809 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: different options at running back, including adding Mike Davis, But 810 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: you don't get Dobbins and you're just relying on gust Edwards. 811 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: You know, it does kind of, you know, undercut your 812 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: ability to run the ball is effectively. And I know 813 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: that they did a really good job with the pieces 814 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: that they were able to put together in season. It 815 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: was kind of an emergency situation. They still became an 816 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: offense that was effective enough to win games, but um, 817 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: it does kind of hurt the confidence in them when 818 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: you look at this division, you look at this conference 819 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: right now and all that is going on and how 820 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: loaded it is. What do you think it is going 821 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: to take to be a playoff team this year? Is 822 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a war of attrition in the sense 823 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: that everybody is going to beat everybody up, or what 824 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: do do you think you're gonna have to be a 825 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: double digit win team? What do you think it's gonna 826 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: take for a team to make the playoffs in the 827 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: a f C where I think, by my count, and 828 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if you would agree with this, and 829 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: Bo and I have talked about I think we have 830 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: eight teams that we think legitimately are probably entering this 831 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: season thinking that they're gonna win the Super Bowl or 832 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: can compete for the Super Bowl, and probably twelve or 833 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: thirteen I think they're going to make the playoffs in 834 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: a conference where only seven camp. Yeah, you know, it's 835 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: kind of strange because when they added the seventh playoff 836 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: team team, you thought, well, that's gonna open the door 837 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: for teams to get in, you know, the nine and 838 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: seven teams in the past to get in. And then 839 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: you know, as we all know how that season played out, 840 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: the three wild card teams all win eleven and five. 841 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: So the following season you got Pittsburgh in there at 842 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: nine and seven. UM, so there's a bit of variance 843 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: with that. UM, and I and I think that, you know, 844 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: for as much as we like to pump up the 845 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: FC West and everything that they've done this offseason, you 846 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: guys know, from being in a strong conference, you tend 847 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: to beat up on each other, like you said, and 848 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, you know, they produced probably two, 849 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: maybe three playoff teams, so the door could be open. Um. 850 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you get all three wild cards from 851 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: that division. I just don't think that's really possible. Um, 852 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: it's super rare for that to happen. And so the 853 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: doors open for another wild card to come out of 854 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: a different division. And if there's one that's gonna come 855 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 1: out of I think it's the East of the North. 856 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I do think that you're gonna end up in a 857 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: similar situation the last year where your last wild cards 858 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: about a nine seven you know, nine seven and one 859 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: Steelers team or a ten and seven team. So I 860 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: would say double digit wins are gonna necessary, and we're 861 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: gonna start at ten and you're just gonna have to hope, 862 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: like every season that you win on the side of 863 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: injury lock, you know, you stay mostly healthy. Because it 864 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a difficult conference basically from top 865 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: to almost the bottom. It's going to be quite a 866 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: marathon of a season for those teams. Nick, you mentioned 867 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: earlier when we were discussing the Bengals that there are 868 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: people who think that they're a flash in the pan. 869 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: I can understand how people think they won't get back 870 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, but nothing about them feels flash 871 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: in the pan to me. It also is pretty known 872 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: and pretty locked in, and I think the roster is 873 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: really really good and they got better upfront. Um, if 874 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: people are thinking they're a flash in the pan, why 875 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: because they're not the Buffalo Bills. They're not the Cancie Cheese. 876 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: They're not you know, the Denver Broncos with Russell Wilson. 877 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: They're not the charge. Yes, they've done more than the 878 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: no no, and I agree with you, but on the surface, 879 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: in terms of appearance, then they're not. They're still there. 880 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: And this is the thing that hurts you when your 881 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: reputation kind of perceived you is you can tend to 882 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: be bogged down when it comes to, you know, the 883 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: court of public opinion and how people look at teams 884 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: at this time of year. They see the stripes from 885 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: the helmet and they think, well, yeah, that was the flu. 886 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: Just because it's the Bengals, not because of the way 887 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: the roster is constructed, but because it's the Bengals. They've 888 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: hadn't really had a lot of attention paid to them 889 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: since they lost Super Bowl fifty six. Since then has 890 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: basically been well, we know they have Joe Burrow. We 891 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: know their offensive line isn't good. We know they have 892 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: good receivers, but what else Because they're not quite the 893 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: flashiest team, especially on the defensive side of the ball. 894 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: But they got some dogs over there. So you don't 895 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: shore up the offensive line with a bunch of names 896 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: that don't really make a splash outside of Ao Collins, because, 897 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, other than me, who pays attention to inter 898 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: your alignment and understands who's effective and who's not, I 899 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: can understand. It's not a sexy position, so I get it. 900 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: But those were the areas they needed to address, and 901 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: they did address them. So I think they're gonna be contenders. 902 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a tough out. I also 903 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: think that from your guy's seat, the Browns happy to 904 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: have had their number in the last few years. So 905 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: it does play well for the Browns as long as 906 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: they can stay in contention. But yeah, I think that 907 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: they're they're in position. I mean, they won't the division 908 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: with and wins last year. It's not like they blew 909 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: the doors off the conference, but they got hot at 910 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: the right time and and Joe Burrow really found himself 911 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: at the right time. If he can carry that momentum over, 912 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: you know he's healthy. He's more than a year removed 913 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: from an A. C. L. Tair. They got a better 914 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: offensive line, they got the weapons. They're gonna be a 915 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: tough out. It's just a matter that they're not Josh 916 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: Allen and the Bills. They're not Patrick Mahomes and the 917 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs in appearance, so they're not taking it seriously. All right. 918 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: I know you're a big mad and guy mad and 919 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: twenty three ratings are coming out. What's your biggest gripe 920 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: so far? What have they gotten wrong? And what are 921 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: you most excited about. I was surprised to see Christian 922 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey rated as high as he was, not because he's 923 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: not that good of a player, but because he's been 924 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: hurt so much in the last few years. I thought 925 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: he'd get dinged um in terms of overall. I was 926 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: happy to see Mile with Garrett ninety nine, and I 927 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: was expecting accurately that Dealers fans would be very upset 928 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: to see Mile Garrett three points higher than T. J. 929 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: Watt after he tied the all time single season sacks record. 930 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: Uh So, not a ton of surprises there, I think 931 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side of all. When it comes to the secondary, 932 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: there's some surprises, but it um. I can tell you this. 933 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: I've played the mad and twenty three beta earlier this year, 934 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: and it is a much better game. I'm very excited 935 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 1: about it. In fact, I'm working on a little piece 936 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: about it. Uh. You know, I talked to the guys 937 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: at e A earlier this week, the guys basically in 938 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: charge of running the game and developing the game, and 939 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: they're also very excited. I think it's gonna be a 940 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: significant year for the game outside of ratings, and I 941 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: think players that they give it a chance will be 942 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: rather impressed by the changes to the gameplay that they've 943 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: wanted for a long time to step in the right 944 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: direction for a game that has been under fire in 945 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: the last five or ten years for getting a little 946 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: bit stale. Uh. They're aware of that, they've heard the criticism, 947 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: and they're moving in that direction. So very excited for 948 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: these this game to see what their reception is. Give 949 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: us a hint, are what are some of the things 950 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: you played the thing? What what makes it? Because to me, 951 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: I guess the last few years and I've just gotten 952 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: into because the boys have had it the last couple 953 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: of years. It feels like the gameplay it's kind of 954 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: the same year in a year out. Yeah, and it's 955 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: different this year. And I'm not just saying that. I'm 956 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: not at some page shill. I don't get a single 957 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: penny from them about this. I'm just telling you from 958 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: my own experience. You know what's funny. It's like every 959 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: year things are released, games, whatever it is, and the 960 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: marketing copy comes out and they count these all new 961 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: features and it's gonna be revolutionary, and largely it's more 962 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: of the same with you know, minimal improvements whatever it is, 963 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: whether it's Madden or whatever it is. Things tend to 964 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: not progress as fast as we'd like them too. This year, 965 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: the copy came out and they touted this field sense, 966 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: the way that you play the game is totally different. 967 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: And I read it and I thought, well, this sounds 968 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: like more of the same than I downloaded the data 969 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: and started playing, and I thought, oh, they're actually, you know, 970 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: they're backing this up this time around. There's there's a 971 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: dynamic they use called hit Everything, where you can actually 972 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: impact the ball carrier as he's being stit up by somebody, 973 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, It's something that I've done for years. I 974 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: try to run another guy in there, and he just 975 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: falls off and bounces off as if nothing happens. That changes. 976 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: Now you can have a guy in the middle of 977 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: getting stood up or getting tackled, and another guy comes 978 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: in and punches the ball out, just like you see 979 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: in a real football game. The player movement is different. 980 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: They've implemented hard cuts, which means you can finally run 981 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: an inside own play the way you're supposed to, you know, 982 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: the inside zone. Let's say you're taking a hand off 983 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: the left, the front five offensive lineman, they all flow 984 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: to the left on the similar track up field, and 985 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: the running back is cast to aim for a landmark 986 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: and look for the cutback. You couldn't really hit that 987 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: cut back in the past. Now you hold down the 988 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: left trigger and you move to the right, you can 989 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: hit that cut did with Kareem Hunt a lot when 990 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: I was playing the Beta. Come up field for ten 991 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: twelve yards, exactly how you'd see in a football game. 992 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: And most importantly to me, we know for too long 993 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to balls in the air that it 994 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: feels predetermined canned animations. You press the button, you hope 995 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: he goes to the pick. You hope the right animation triggers, 996 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: and if you're the receiver, you go for an aggressive catch. 997 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: Five percent of the time that ball is getting knocked out. 998 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: Now they play it independently, they go up, you can 999 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: swap the ball. The back corner fade is a route 1000 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: you can actually throw. Now you can defend it and 1001 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: you can also catch it. There's all kinds of different 1002 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: changes there. Um. I had a ton of fun playing 1003 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to it. My biggest gripe was 1004 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: I felt like every past either ended with a completion 1005 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: or an interception. Yes, and that's different us. That's just 1006 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: not realistic. Like sometimes you can throw a pass to 1007 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: a guy that's covered and maybe you squeeze it in there, 1008 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: maybe it gets bad, and it just it felt like 1009 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: it was either everything that was a decent or good 1010 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: read was a completion anything time you made it, you know, 1011 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: try to fit one in or and then they leap 1012 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: up in the air win it. But just felt like 1013 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: the ball didn't hit the ground. And as we know, 1014 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks and it's changed since obviously we were 1015 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: young people, but you know a guy will throw it 1016 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: complete that still means three passes are hitting the ground. Yeah, 1017 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: and you know, I talked to them about that, and 1018 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: they admitted that they said that too often. It was 1019 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: you're either going for the catch or you're going for 1020 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: the interception. Is one of two outcomes, Like you said, 1021 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: it's not like that anymore. And and another part of 1022 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: that too is they have this um feature I came. 1023 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: I think it's called like pinpoint passing or full controlt 1024 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: something like that, where you can actually lead a guy. 1025 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: It defines an area in which he's guaranteed to try 1026 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: to make a play on the balls or receiver, and 1027 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: you'll see it show up on the fields you throw it. 1028 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: You can lead a guy beyond that and try to 1029 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: throw it only where he can catch it, which you've 1030 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: never really been able to do in a football game before. 1031 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of control coming to the game 1032 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: that I like for people to get their hands on. 1033 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: Good talking. Yeah, of course, Nick Chuck. Hey, you know 1034 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: what someday when they introduced cross play, which is not 1035 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: going to be this year, but maybe in the future, 1036 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: get you guys in the league, Get in the league. 1037 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: Let's go down. You see, that's the man's got to 1038 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: know his limitations mine or any league that you're involved 1039 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: in on the sticks, I'm not I can't kidding me. 1040 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: He would smoke me. I think our knowledge would square off. Well, 1041 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: then it just comes down to stick skills. But you 1042 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: know what sticks the game. We have to we have 1043 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: to make some content out of it for the show 1044 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: and for everything. That would be fun, for sure, that 1045 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: would be fun. All right, Buddy, good talking to you pal. Alright, fellas, 1046 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on a great NFL dot com 1047 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: joining us on the hot line. They're another great friend 1048 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: of the program. Benjamin Albright going to join us next. 1049 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: As we continue tend most Intriguing teams centering on the 1050 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily on fifty 1051 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 1: YESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on E s p M Cleveland. Alright, 1052 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: ten most Intriguing Teams for two continues as we get 1053 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: set to start camp here in the next week. And 1054 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: with this we head to Denver for a conversation with 1055 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: a great friend of the program, the Great Benjamin Albright, 1056 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: Broncos insider host reporter analysts on k o A in Denver. Buddy, 1057 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: thanks for the time. I gotta say we need to 1058 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: add like NHL owner breaking news guy too with this 1059 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: Darryl cat story, you I mean this is I mean, 1060 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: he's been in trouble before, um for these type of allegations, 1061 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: but you break this yesterday with him potentially involved in 1062 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: something else where? Does it end with your news breaking 1063 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: my friend? Yeah, we're getting ready to fire up. You know, 1064 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: Albright NHL and Allbright NBA. We're you know, we're going 1065 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: multi sport here. I love it and I love it. Um, 1066 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: it's a go. Read Ben's reporting on this. It's it's 1067 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: pretty pretty wild. What happened with you with you own? 1068 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: What is happening with the owner of the Edmonton Oilers. Uh, 1069 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: let's let's get back into why you were here though, 1070 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: and that is of course, to discussed this Denver Broncos 1071 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: football team. I know we talked to you last year 1072 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: in the lead up to the season. You said, boy 1073 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: all he needs a quarterback. Well now you got one. Uh, 1074 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 1: you get through the mini camps, were on the onset 1075 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: of training camp. Give us a little feel about what 1076 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has meant and what he will mean to 1077 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: this Broncos franchise going forward. Well, what he's meant so 1078 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: far is credibility. Um, you know, there's a there's a 1079 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: general you know kind of optimism here that the Broncos 1080 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 1: have a real shot at the playoffs and uh maybe 1081 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: moving a little where or moving around in the playoffs 1082 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: this year, um, you know, last since Peyton Manning, it's 1083 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 1: really just been a you know, a buffet of bad 1084 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: quarterback play over and over again, whether that was rock Oswildler, 1085 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch, Trevor Sidmey and Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, case Keenum, 1086 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Drew Lock. Uh, you know, it's just it's 1087 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: just been a who's who of no at the quarterback position. 1088 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: The Broncos have been able to score points and and 1089 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: have wasted some pretty good defenses. Uh and in the end, 1090 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: you know, unable to return to the playoffs. So what 1091 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: he's meant so far as a return to the standard 1092 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: on offense and in a credibility that this team could 1093 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 1: actually be a playoff contender. Yeah, they get their guy, 1094 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: they get Russ. What's the buzz like around that town, 1095 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: because it's a town that in could have an unbelievable 1096 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: story of right winning Super Bowls with John Elway winning 1097 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Peyton Manning and now Russell Wilson could add 1098 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: his name to that list, which would be wild. What's 1099 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: kind of the vibe there because he can be a 1100 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a different kind of guy and I've 1101 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: seen some mixed things just pop up on your feet 1102 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: in terms of you responding to people with their commentary 1103 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: on the the initial feelings on the Russell Wilson experience, Well, 1104 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: there's a player, um, there's universal operation UM as as 1105 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: an on the field play or everybody. Everybody loves him. 1106 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that this is this is the guy, um, 1107 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: you know off the field. Russ Wilson is just an 1108 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: interesting dude. Man. He's uh, he's kind of a dork, 1109 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: We're being honest. Uh, And he's kind of like the 1110 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: cheesy motivational video you know kind of things, and uh 1111 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: that I mean for some people that works for some people. 1112 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: Who does And I think that this this particular locker 1113 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 1: room might be the best fit for us simply because 1114 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of all the captains, Justin Simmons 1115 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: and he's kind of kind of sort of similar in 1116 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: the way that he approaches things as opposed to maybe 1117 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: you know, the legion of Boom, which kind of had 1118 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: more of a you know, an urban field to it. Um. 1119 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, guys had more of a gritty, real world 1120 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of kind of feel to their their messaging and so, um, 1121 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that. I feel like he's 1122 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: in the right place for him. But if you're not 1123 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: a fan of those, uh you know, those kind of 1124 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of cheesy, motivational kind of things, um, he's probably 1125 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: not your guy. Off the field. Well, the other thing 1126 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: here too is it's got to help, especially on the 1127 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. When you look at the 1128 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: skill guys, they're all young, right Ben, I mean they're young, impressionable. 1129 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: Here's the guy who's quarterback to team to a Super Bowl. 1130 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: It's a much easier it's almost look, you buy into 1131 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,720 Speaker 1: anything because of how good he is as a player, 1132 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: right Well, yeah, and you kind of have to. I mean, 1133 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: he sets the standard and this is where it's gonna 1134 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: be and if you you can either get on board 1135 00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: or you're not gonna be here. And that was the 1136 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: same way Peyton Manning did things. But yeah, you've got 1137 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: a a loood of young guys on the offense. You 1138 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 1: think the oldest guy on the offense out, he's he's 1139 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: Melvin Gorton, you know. So it's it really is just 1140 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: a very youthful roster, uh, you know overall, and and 1141 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: those guys grew up watching Russ play and all that 1142 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So there's there's a there's a cachet there, 1143 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: and there's there's a buy in there. Um. You know. 1144 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of interesting because the national media has 1145 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: all been focused on the offense with Russ and the 1146 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,479 Speaker 1: defense is like, oh yeah, by the way, we're still here. 1147 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: So there's been some you know, there's been a little 1148 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: tippiness at O t a little mouth and you know, 1149 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: a little trash talk that kind of stuff, good nature stuff. 1150 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: No fights every day, but good natured trash talk, which 1151 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: I think has been good. When you look at this 1152 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: and you mentioned this team and Bo you talked about 1153 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: the young guys on the offense. He's gonna have obviously 1154 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: good backfield. We'll talk about that in a second. We'll 1155 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: talk some fantasy football and the saddest day news day 1156 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: of the year when Melvin Gordon came back. And I 1157 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: know you like Melvin Gordon. I like Melvin Gordon too, 1158 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: but just free Javante let's just all right, let's go 1159 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: right there. Let me get let me get three three 1160 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: touches this year. Come on, Ben, is that in the cards? Well, 1161 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: Javonte is gonna get more of a lead role this year. 1162 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: Melbourne will be a situation of guy. I think the problem, 1163 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from a fantasy football perspective, 1164 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: is Melvin is gonna be the short yardage, red zone, 1165 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: goal line back. Jante is going to have to break him. 1166 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: Uh see, if he's gonna want to touchdown TOTALSI Melbourn's 1167 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna wind up with because he's gonna vulter him. That's terrible. 1168 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: Nobody likes it. Did you see ESPN? They asked all 1169 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: the people around the league they had was the top 1170 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: ten back in the league already. I can't be tackled. 1171 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: I was talking to hack It out there at the 1172 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: combine and you know, talking about if they brought Melvin 1173 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: back and everything, and and I was like, you know, 1174 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna name like, they're gonna name the Fantasy Football 1175 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: Trophy for like the most hated guy in the league 1176 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: after you, because you're gonna split the carries and kill 1177 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: everybody on the production. Yeah, it's right when Shanahan was there, 1178 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: and he would eight hundred backs and of course one 1179 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: would end up being great every year, but you never 1180 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: really knew who was gonna be. We don't need that. 1181 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: Javonte is good to go. Let's have a true featured back. 1182 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: Let's just all enjoy it off. My dare to dream. 1183 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: That's right, well, beyond that, beyond the backfield, I mean, 1184 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: this receiving corps is fascinating And UM, I'm trying to 1185 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: think of just this combination. Obviously through to some good 1186 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: guys with d K and and lock it last year 1187 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: in Seattle, but this group seems like it's even even 1188 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: more deep and more diversified. Um, of these guys, are 1189 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: they ready for what's coming their way? With with Wilson 1190 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: at the Helm, well you hope so. Um. You know 1191 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy for where he was drafted, You know, I 1192 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: don't think it's quite lived up to what people thought 1193 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: he could be. Uh you do have you know, he 1194 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: does have an old world skill set, he just hasn't 1195 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: quite quite gotten to the point where he needs to 1196 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: be any struggled with drops. So the first two years. Um, 1197 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: then you've got Courtland Sutton who came back off that 1198 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: big injury wasn't quite the same last year. Kind of 1199 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: wrapped it up a little towards the end of the season. 1200 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: Tim Patrick, who I think is quietly the most underrated 1201 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: receiver in football, and guys just nails on third down. 1202 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't drop footballs. I think he's what one drop 1203 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: of the last three years. Um, and and so you know, 1204 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of nails. And then the guy 1205 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: I think that you know, everybody's focusing on Judy. I 1206 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: think kJ Handler's prime for the big breakout season. Um, 1207 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: he most resembles Tyler Lockett skill set. Uh, it's just 1208 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: been health issues with him. I'd say, talking to the 1209 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: defensive players that and the dbs, Uh, that's the guy. 1210 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: They don't want to go up against him. Practice, They said, 1211 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: kJ makes you look foolish out there and practice, that's 1212 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: the guy we don't want to line up with. Um. 1213 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, we always trade him out if we're lined 1214 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: up on him, My trade and for one of the rookies, 1215 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get lined up on him. 1216 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he could fly, that was the thing. And yeah, 1217 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of weapons. Now. One piece they 1218 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: did give up was the guy that I saw me. 1219 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it at seventy five yard if I'm not mistaken, 1220 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 1: catch and run touchdown against the Browns a few years ago, 1221 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: Noah fan, So talk to me about that tight end 1222 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: room they've got. I'll just call him Albert. I'm not 1223 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: going to jump into that last name just yet. And 1224 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: then Greg Dulcatu they drafted in the third round. What 1225 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: do you make of that tight end situation? And is 1226 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 1: is somebody going to be a guy that's relevant from 1227 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: a statistical perspective. Well, it's interesting because I thought Albert 1228 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: and his last name is oku webanam Um, I thought 1229 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: that he was going to be the guy last year. 1230 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, no offense a good tight end, but owd 1231 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: banam was a willing blocker and honestly a little more 1232 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: athletic um. But the problem is with with albert O's 1233 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: and he struggled to stay healthy. Uh so that's sort 1234 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: of been a problem there. They trade fat Away clear 1235 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: the you know, clear the pavement for him, and then 1236 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett though banging the table for Greg Dulstitch in 1237 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: the draft. And so they go ahead. They get Nathaniel 1238 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: Hacketts guy in Dulstitch. I thought Alberto's looked better so 1239 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: far in training camp without the pads on. Um, you know, 1240 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: we got actual camp coming up. The O t A 1241 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: looked better with Alberto with bettert pads on. But you 1242 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: know what kind of see once they get the pads 1243 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: on and everything. Uh, those two guys will be the 1244 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: main two, and then one of Eric tomlins conaer Eric 1245 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: Salbert will win the third job there. Uh. Tomlinson's just 1246 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: basically an offensive tackle playing tight end, and Salbert you know, 1247 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 1: came it was here last year but really didn't do anything. Boy, 1248 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: then you look at this roster. I look at the 1249 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: I think Pats are tan. I think these guys on 1250 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: the defensive side shub all these guys they have. And 1251 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: then I we just got done talking about all of 1252 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: the skill offensively. But then you look at that division 1253 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: and you say, my god, they could finish first, they 1254 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: could finish fourth. I have no idea. What have you 1255 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this in a division with with 1256 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: what happened in the f C West, I really have, 1257 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: And I mean it's a it's a pretty pretty strong division. Um. 1258 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: People forget how strong the NFC South was about I 1259 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 1: don't know, five six years ago when you get prime 1260 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Prime Matt Ryan, Prime Drew Brees, and then 1261 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: you know those Tampa teams that have flirt with the playoffs. 1262 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: When Winston was just coming around, that was a pretty 1263 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: strong division back then. It's probably the strongest I think 1264 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: I've seen a division top to bottom since I've looked 1265 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: at this one. On paper, the Chargers, um, you know, 1266 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: on paper look like they could be the best team 1267 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: in the division, but they always managed to find a 1268 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: way to Charger. You know, you've got Kansas City's got 1269 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. Doesn't matter what you lose, I mean, even 1270 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: losing Tyreek Hill and Tyron Matthew, you still got Pat Mahomes. 1271 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: And that's at the cheap coding and of itself. And 1272 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders on offense they look like a Jugger dot. 1273 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know what they're gonna do on defense 1274 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: because it doesn't look like they really got much outside 1275 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: their past for us. So, um, you know, with the Broncos, 1276 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: there's question marks. I mean there's there's there's talent there, 1277 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: but there's question marks. A lot of it's unproven. You know, 1278 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: you've got a new coach, new have c new DC, 1279 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: new special teams that have never done those things before. 1280 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: You got a new quarterback you brought in that's coming 1281 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: off the thumb injury. Uh. You've got a defense that 1282 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: played really well last year, third and the league in 1283 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: points alloud. But uh, and then you've got an offense 1284 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: it's never lived up to the potential. So uh, sever 1285 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: is just a giant quok question mark when you look 1286 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: at this team you bring in RUSS. If you just 1287 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: talk about the division, we know about the conference, what 1288 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: are the expectations? What would be acceptable? Is this because 1289 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: RUSS is here and it feels like it should be 1290 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: playoffs or BUS. But and normally that would be okay, 1291 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: but this a f C is ridiculous. You could have 1292 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: a great season and play great and not make the playoffs. Yeah, 1293 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. I think locally, the expectations playoffs 1294 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: or BUS. I think if they don't make the playoffs, 1295 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: that would be a severe disappointment to this fan base, 1296 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: even with how loaded the division is. UM. You know, 1297 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: I think I think they have the show. They have 1298 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: to have a winning record to show positivele minimum at minimum. Um. 1299 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is this is a lot of George 1300 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: Peyton's moves, finally putting his stamp on this team after 1301 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: the transition from John Elways. Is George Peyton's picked coach. Uh, 1302 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: George Peyton made the move for this quarterback. George Payton 1303 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: let Von Miller go and brought in Randy Gregory this offseason. 1304 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of these moves have that George Peyton 1305 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: stamp on them. And you know, if this thing blows up, 1306 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: you could see a lot of the goodwill toward him 1307 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: a road rather quickly, Ben, I'll get you out of 1308 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: here on this one. Since last we talked, we have 1309 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: officially have new ownership in Denver. Your early impressions of 1310 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: the ownership group and then are you surprised that Peyton 1311 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: Manning wasn't a part of it? Well, Um, not a 1312 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: part of it yet is probably the best way to 1313 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: put that right now. Um No, I'm not. They're they're 1314 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: very well to group. They're the owners we expected all along. 1315 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the name we talked about when we're 1316 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: talking back at the um back where we're talking earlier 1317 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,959 Speaker 1: this year. To combine um, They're they're loaded financially, which 1318 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: is which is going to be a boon for this team. 1319 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: Because uh, they've at time has been a little cash tight, 1320 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: which is not allowed them the malleability with the salary cap. 1321 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: They're mostly hands off. Greg Penner elbow Rob Walton is 1322 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: the main purchaser here. Gregg Penner and his wife will 1323 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: be running it. Um. They have kind of a hands 1324 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: off approach, but they're bringing in you know, football guys. 1325 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: And I would not be surprised to see Peyton Manning 1326 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: join this. I would also not be surprised, and I'll 1327 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: put this one out here for you. It's not out 1328 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: there anywhere else. I would not be surprised to see 1329 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Terrell Davis joining in as well. Okay, okay, Yeah, we 1330 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: always wait on you like that. Yeah, that's a good one. 1331 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: You always wait on Manning. You just wonder what he 1332 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, like, is he just going to be do 1333 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: the Manning cast and that's enough? You just he seems 1334 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: like he's got so much he's capable of, you know. Yeah. 1335 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I think the problem for Manning is he would want 1336 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to be more hands on than than I think that 1337 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: that that they would want. So I would not be 1338 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: surprised to see that be a bit delayed, especially if 1339 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the George Peyton thing goes south, he might step in, 1340 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think he wants to be in a 1341 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: turf war with George Payton, because I think Peyton Manning 1342 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: wants to put his own stamp on things. I got 1343 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: you great stuff, buddy, since I love talking to your pal, 1344 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: absolutely man all right, that's the great Benjamin. Love him 1345 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: joining us on the hotline. He's the best. All sorts 1346 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: of good stuff. They're coming up next our camp preview 1347 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Positional previews continue. We hit on the safety vis It's 1348 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: an absolutely loaded room that's coming up next. You listen 1349 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Rounds Daily on a fifty yes and Cleveland 1350 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily on a e sp N. 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This time 1368 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: we are in the safety room. It's loaded loaded duct 1369 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: to z Oh baby, I love this. This is This 1370 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: might be one of my favorite rooms. Not only do 1371 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: we got Jeff Howard back there with these guys patrolling 1372 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: in his beautiful Cleveland Brown's defensive backshoodinge. No big deal, 1373 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: I heard, by the way, rumors are there might be 1374 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: a sleeveless T shirt hoodie in the works. Oh god, 1375 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: really would be just something spectacular. Nos, and just swalk 1376 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: around in and feel good about yourself. And there's reason 1377 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: to feel good. We got John Johnson was our big 1378 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: free agent signing a year ago. He led the Browns defense. 1379 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Every player and hunt nine and three snaps played fifteen starts, 1380 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: tied for the team lead with three picks. He had 1381 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: sixty one tackles, the tackle for a loss, a half, 1382 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: a sack of force fumble, and five p bus. But 1383 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: as the year went on, he got more comfortable than 1384 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the d And this was a guy who with the 1385 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Rams was considered to be a top ten safety in 1386 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: the league every single year. And now I didn't start 1387 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that way with the Browns, and we all know that. 1388 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: But from week nine on, as he got closer to 1389 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, got more involved, more versatile like 1390 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: he was with the Rams. He was the twelfth graded 1391 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: safety at Pro Football Focus for the second half of 1392 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the season. So I think that shows you what he 1393 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: can do as we get going here, and it wouldn't 1394 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: surprise me if at the end of the year he's 1395 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: a Pro bowler and a top ten safety. Grant Delpit. 1396 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 1: I believe has the opportunity to become a Pro bowler 1397 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and a top ten safety in this league as well. 1398 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Last year, fifteen games, seven starts, played, six hundred snaps, 1399 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: sixty six tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, one pick, 1400 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: three passes defense, and a force fumble. He started slow, 1401 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: he was trying to figure out his body for gre out, 1402 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: you know how he felt, and then also learned the 1403 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: defense on the field on the fly. But I'll tell 1404 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you what from week twelve on the last basically quarter 1405 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: of the season, he was elite. The last third of 1406 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the season, I should say pro Football Focus is number 1407 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: eight overall safety. Number three in coverage was Grant Delpitt. 1408 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: He's had a great offseason. And we said earlier, you 1409 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: know who was the star of the mini camp in 1410 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: the O t A sessions, and I think we all 1411 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: agreed Grant Delpitt defensively was that guy. And Jeff how 1412 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: already mentioned him earlier. He said, you know, he is 1413 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: a guy who really is playing fast. He's comfortable in 1414 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: the defense, comfortable with what he's seeing, and I think 1415 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: has a chance to break out. And then there's Ronnie Harrison, 1416 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: who if we were doing this after the season when 1417 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: the Browns one of the playoffs, he just said, Ronnie's 1418 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: one of the stars of the defense. He was that 1419 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: year the third best player on the defense behind Myles 1420 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Garrett and Denzel Ward. But last year he struggled a 1421 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: little bit. Still five snaps fifty eight tackles, four tackles 1422 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: for loss of sack, three p b u s. But 1423 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: he's back on a one year deal and he's hungry, 1424 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and I think he feels like he has something to prove. 1425 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Remember last year and kind of what was a microcosm 1426 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: of this season, kind of getting off the rails. He 1427 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: was thrown out of the season opener against Kansas City 1428 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 1: for a freakas on the sideline when frankly he got 1429 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: hit by a coach on their team, Who've got nothing 1430 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: happened to that guy, which is still wild to me 1431 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: that it was like six years ago. It was like 1432 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: six years ago. To me, that was a long time ago. 1433 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Week one Kansas City and h one that just got 1434 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: away slipped through the fingers of the Scottish hammer. We 1435 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: had Ronnie getting a drink. I thought we were out 1436 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: there making a statement and heading right to the super 1437 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Bowl in the first half of that game. But he's back, 1438 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: and so now you've got your top three safeties from 1439 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: a year ago all back. Ronnie can play in that 1440 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,919 Speaker 1: dime and you feel great about the versatility what they bring. 1441 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: And I still stand by the fact that Ronnie Harrison 1442 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: is an incredibly talented player. And so you've got three 1443 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: starting caliber safeties in that room. Your key backup, You've 1444 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: got rich LeCount the second year player out of Georgia. 1445 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I miss kay walking by a little. Oh hello, how 1446 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: are you? You got a second year player out of 1447 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: joy Or played nine games last year, one start played 1448 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 1: in defense and four of them. Uh, the other one 1449 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: special teams. Seventy six snaps, three tackles. Don't forget he 1450 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: started on Christmas against Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay, and 1451 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: I think we will all remember he got his welcome 1452 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 1: to the NFL moment in the red zone. He ended 1453 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: up in a manned situation with Davante Adams. Didn't go 1454 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: well for him touchdown Packers. But overall on the game 1455 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: as it went on, he played very well in that defense, 1456 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: if you recall in that game, certainly played well enough 1457 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: to win for the Cleveland Browns and we were decimated 1458 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 1: in that one. No John Johnson, Uh, he's a guy 1459 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: who's loved by his teammates. A lot of the guys 1460 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: says the funniest guy on the team, great hoops player 1461 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: to boot and he's somebody who I know. Talking to 1462 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: Mike Preefer, he said that he's really embraced kind of 1463 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the special team's role and knows that that's a way 1464 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: for him to make an impact and and still get 1465 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: a chance to play some at safety. And uh, Jeff 1466 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: Howard told me that, you know, he's also seeing it 1467 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 1: better and when he sees it right, he's really really good. 1468 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: And so the key is just to have him seeing 1469 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: it the right way more often than not, and then 1470 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to have a nice little sayfty there. 1471 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 1: So those are your top four, I'd say those are 1472 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: the four are going to make the roster. Behind them, 1473 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: we've got a couple of guys who have a chance 1474 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: to compete for a roster spot. D Anthony Bell, who's 1475 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent out of West Florida, won the 1476 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: national championship at West Florida in two thousand nineteen. Uh. 1477 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: He had two interceptions fifty four tackles last year. Uh. 1478 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: The coaches have noticed him and he's been playing some 1479 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: of the dime and that's a role that they've they've 1480 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: thought as fit. Well. He's six one, two eleven, can 1481 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: cover and he's got speed and that's what Jeff Howard 1482 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: and you know Brand Lynch. They want Joe Woods on 1483 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the back end. They want guys that can run, and 1484 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: Bell can do that, So keep an eye on him 1485 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: as a guy that could make you know, certainly the 1486 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: practice squad, but maybe could surprise you and be kept 1487 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 1: as a fifth safety if they want to have five 1488 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: for special teams purposes and maybe go five linebackers five safeties. 1489 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: For example. Nate metters Uh and undrafted free agenera u 1490 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: c l A who originally signed with the Minnesota in 1491 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. Guess who was the assistant dB coach 1492 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: for the Minnesota Vikings in two thousand nineteen, Jeff Howard. 1493 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: There he goes. He does have some familiarity with our staff. 1494 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: He's played in three career games with the Viking in 1495 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty two tackles. Interesting little side note here, 1496 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: he was a high school quarterback and in his last 1497 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: season in high school he ran for two thousand yards 1498 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: and twenty six touchdowns, which I felt like she was noteworthy. 1499 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like a lot. It feels 1500 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: like a lot as a quarterback. And then finally, Luther Kirk, 1501 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: the fourth and undrafted free agent out of Illinois State 1502 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: who has spent time with the Cowboys, the Vikings and 1503 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 1: the Falcons, appearing in one career game with Atlanta um 1504 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and he was an FCS All American First Team in 1505 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen at Illinois State was a team captain there. 1506 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: So that's rounding out your safety room likely to before 1507 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: those first four that we mentioned, John Grant, Ronnie and 1508 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,679 Speaker 1: uh Rich account could there be a fifth potentially depending 1509 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: on how they break things down on the defensive side 1510 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: of the ball. Is this the coolest room? Like, I 1511 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,560 Speaker 1: just in terms of the style of play, their persona 1512 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 1: walking on the field, the cool the way they look 1513 01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: in a uniform, it's it's it's up there, it's up there. 1514 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: And the corners have a lot of that. The corners 1515 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of it. I mean when you talk 1516 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: about the ends and you got Myles Garon Clowne and 1517 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: that makes that room feel pretty cool. It's just big guys. 1518 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: It's hard to know these guys a different feel like. 1519 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: These guys just are all bouncy. They're all big, impressive, 1520 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, athletes like it. Just I don't know, like 1521 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: the the whole thing. They all looked swagged out in 1522 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: their uniforms. Yeah, and with their coach as the most swag, 1523 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: I would say of any of the position coaches. So yeah, 1524 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: I would probably say, so, I just throw the corners 1525 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,799 Speaker 1: in with it. If you're fucking now, You've got Denzel 1526 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: and Greg and Greedy and even MJ's got some A. J. 1527 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: Green's got some swag to him. Her Miller does our 1528 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Millers run around there with a hoodie, which I think 1529 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 1: is great while he's playing. And then you got these safeties, 1530 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: all of these guys. I think it's a it's a 1531 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: strong looking room. Yeah, I think so. Like a year ago, 1532 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: it probably would have been you know, O'Dell and Jarvis 1533 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: and receivers and all of that, clearly, but you know, 1534 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 1: this feels like they've they've inherited a heck of a 1535 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: battle between the safeties and the corners of the next 1536 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: time we have Jeff Howard on, we'll ask him, we'll 1537 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: ask Yeah. And this news of some sort of a 1538 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: a sleeveless hooded T shirt situation, I mean that sounds 1539 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: like magic. Yes, totally, that feels like it's magic. I 1540 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: absolutely love that. All right, it is sign us up. 1541 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: It's an SCBD Thursday edition of the program. Still time 1542 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: to get your questions into give a that's coming up next. 1543 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you Meckling already has one that has 1544 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 1: my head spinning. He always does. He's got always a 1545 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 1: does you can do. You can do like a normal SCBD, 1546 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 1: and then you can do a Mechling addition. Just all bye, hey, 1547 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 1: Bob bye, all right, it's coming up next. Cle Cleveland 1548 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: Browns Daily e s b N Cleveland Rumpy Waste Recycling, 1549 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: family owned and operated. 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Sorry, irrelevant, 1559 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: that's I said. It's a homework assignment. We're not asking. 1560 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:50,799 Speaker 1: We're not asking here, We're telling, Oh you guys ready, 1561 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 1: like tomorrow's day off for you? Well, you know it's all. 1562 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,640 Speaker 1: It's funny. I had somebody tell me this morning that 1563 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait for football season, and I am a 1564 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,719 Speaker 1: little excited. Once it gets going, I will be excited. 1565 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: But I'm also like, we'll be fine. Well, well I'll 1566 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: be I'm gonna be fine. We get a lot of football, 1567 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of football coming, lots of football. We'll 1568 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: be fine. You're gonna get your taste. I'm gonna have 1569 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: plenty of things to talk about. Maybe maybe not God 1570 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: be something if it's tomorrow, wouldn't it, I mean something. 1571 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Don't forget that we acquired and we were not on. 1572 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 1: That's right, nament would only seem fitting that we are 1573 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 1: not on tomorrow. That would be That'd be the way 1574 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: that would go. So uh a little male bag here 1575 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:50,640 Speaker 1: and a round out the week buckle down uh Brown's 1576 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Underscore Daily. The hashtag asked c b D. We are 1577 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 1: underway and we have plenty of questions here, Rick Sorg. 1578 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: If I screwed up your last name, it's not the 1579 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: first time, probably won't be the last. Apologies. Are the 1580 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime televised games going to be included in the 1581 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Sunday NFL ticket televised games it's a great question. I 1582 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,600 Speaker 1: don't think so. I had a meeting yesterday with the 1583 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 1: league and that did not get brought up. They never 1584 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: were before, were they? They've never been? No, I don't know. 1585 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: I think they've been Sunday. Yeah, it's just Wednesday night taped. 1586 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, But what's he hoping for? Like 1587 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: through Amazon? What are you saying the tickets through Amazon? Now? 1588 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it through Apple? Through Apple? Yeah? So I would say, no, 1589 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the Amazon Prime games are gonna be on Amazon Prime. Yeah, 1590 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I think that that's Those are 1591 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: totally separate. In Cleveland, they will air on a local station. 1592 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the 1593 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Pardner right. Are they bidding that out? That's out, it's 1594 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 1: been up, but I don't yeah Amazon exactly who has 1595 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: won those bidding right, or if they've been announced yet. 1596 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's gonna suck about all of this. 1597 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: And I'm a big flipper and I know I'm old 1598 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 1: in that way, but it's gonna suck to like have 1599 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: to just stay in that that app and not be 1600 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: able to bounce around like I used to love to 1601 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: be able to watch the Thursday night football game and 1602 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: then bounce to the to the college football that was 1603 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: usually on on Thursday night. Two different apps, two different apps, 1604 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: So now I have two screens though, well I'm in 1605 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I have a two screen situation. So that's the way 1606 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do it. But like that sucks 1607 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 1: that that you can't do that. I like being able 1608 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to bounce. You can't you just bounce through app from 1609 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: app to app, which is actually not that slow. It's 1610 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: not as fast as channel to channel obviously, but it's 1611 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,680 Speaker 1: not that but it's manageable. But launching one and then 1612 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: launching another, it's takes a minute, you know. I mean 1613 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: by the time you get there that you're already out 1614 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,800 Speaker 1: of commercial Jibbey, Can I use this one? Because it 1615 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have an hashtag as CBD but it replied to 1616 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: a Brown's Daily. Did you see this one about from 1617 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 1: starting at the top and working from Yo? It's Joe, 1618 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: par Is that one of the ones you're gonna do? Yes? 1619 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: Actually do it next one? All right? Perfect, let's go. 1620 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited for this, Joe. It's on your what is 1621 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 1: on your mount rushmore for spices? Would you like to 1622 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: buy a ball gives. Are we counting pepper and salt 1623 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: as spices or those givens? That's a great follow up. 1624 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 1: Let's take them out because I think let's take them 1625 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: out because I think we're trying to get They would 1626 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: be in everything, So yes, and every recipe that's made, 1627 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,599 Speaker 1: no matter, everywhere, And honestly, you could honestly make almost 1628 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 1: anything great with just those two in olive oil. Truly. Um. 1629 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: All right, I didn't get a preview for this question, 1630 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,920 Speaker 1: so this hit me, you know, just just totally totally 1631 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 1: out of the gates with with no pre prior thought 1632 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: to it. I mean, I think of I feel like 1633 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I would want some human I feel like that would 1634 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: be in the mix. Uh, some pep rika would be 1635 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:12,879 Speaker 1: in the mix for me. Um. I mean like rosemary 1636 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 1: is not a spice, right or is it? Yeah? That's 1637 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 1: a plant though, right, I guess, well, I guess yeah, yeah, 1638 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 1: so rosemary would be one for me. Rosemary is on mine? 1639 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Rosemary's garlic is are you like? Is that a spicer? 1640 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Is that a vegetable garlic? I think it's a seasoning. 1641 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're like talking like you could 1642 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 1: find garlic powder in the spice aisle. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, 1643 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 1: well then garlic for sure, Garlic rosemary would be crush 1644 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: red pepper. For me, crush pepper would be three, and 1645 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: then the other would be maybe. Like I've been using 1646 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 1: a lot of lately, I've really been enjoying, is some 1647 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 1: ancho chili powder, Bigancho guy. According to my buddy who 1648 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: probably would know this, rosemary is an herb, not a spice. 1649 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 1: We can't use babe, all in oregano and any of those. 1650 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Then those are all herbs. Yeah, it doesn't sound like it. Yeah, 1651 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 1: so then I'll go, like a show. I like that. 1652 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 1: So what do you just use spice loosely because you'd 1653 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,640 Speaker 1: find dried basil and dried Italian seasoning and all that 1654 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 1: in the spice aisle. Yeah, crush red pepper. Can I 1655 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: use that as a spice? Yeah, for sure, spice. I 1656 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: like crush red It's great. Yeah, it's fantastic. Ethan tweet 1657 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the show as you can do at Brown's Underscore Daily 1658 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 1: using the hashtag ask cb D, I want to make 1659 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: a trip to a Brown's home game this year. Outside 1660 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: of the obvious answer of helloween, what game would you 1661 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: recommend I make? The trip four. I mean, ze, go ahead. 1662 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 1: I would just say go early in the year, Week five, 1663 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,719 Speaker 1: October the ninth Chargers. Browns still have a good shot 1664 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 1: at some pretty good weather there Thanksgiving weekend to Tampa Bay. 1665 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,719 Speaker 1: You can't go wrong. I was gonna say Tom Brady's 1666 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 1: last game. You go down to Columbus here Saturday for 1667 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,599 Speaker 1: Ohio State and that's oh my god, that's a daily double. Yeah, 1668 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:12,839 Speaker 1: that's a huge double for US England World Cup Monday 1669 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: from Friday the following week. Rest your liver because it'll 1670 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: get you get all set up. Boy, it's sitting yeah, like, yeah, 1671 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean it's Chargers and Bucks. Those are 1672 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 1: the non Bengals Monsters are those two because the Ravens 1673 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: ate the Ravens game would be great too. But yeah, 1674 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 1: it's just middle of December. You're just gonna be cold. 1675 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Saints, that's brutal. Last home game of the year. Yeah, 1676 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: and then two Roadies in the regular season. Yeah. It's funny, 1677 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,639 Speaker 1: like we stock so much when we launched the schedule 1678 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 1: about the schedule, but this is the first time I've 1679 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 1: looked at it since we launched it. Yeah, you know 1680 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you don't. You don't ever think 1681 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: about it until you're in it. Um, I'd forgot, Like 1682 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 1: how great that Chargers game looks on the ninth Oh 1683 01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 1: my god, and hopefully we're Yeah yeah, Quinn tweets at 1684 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 1: the show. Enough about white helmets. Can we incorporate Brownie 1685 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: the Elf into an alternate uniform? No, no, no, but 1686 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 1: but but perhaps Brownie could be incorporated into the stadium. 1687 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh so here's the other thing about Brownie that's pretty interesting. 1688 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 1: So there's the stand up Brownie you see a lot, 1689 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,640 Speaker 1: But the real Brownie you want is running Brownie. He 1690 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: could be in the mix as well. I think he's 1691 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 1: the preferred Brownie the Elf. I did like the idea. 1692 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I did like our compromise of the white helmet with 1693 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 1: a Brownie the the running Brownie you wanted it on 1694 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,519 Speaker 1: the side, I can get there. But I also like 1695 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the idea of him like in the back. I think 1696 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 1: that could be kind of cool to have him back there. Um, 1697 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 1: in my mind, you know where I see him. I 1698 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: see him on and right at midfield and man can dream. Yeah, 1699 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,599 Speaker 1: that would be cool too. It's cool. I mean, it's 1700 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,599 Speaker 1: a cool it's a cool logo. Yeah, we've been really 1701 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've were always very judicious with when 1702 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 1: we use it, and it disappeared, was gone forever, and 1703 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 1: then it came back. Starting to see it pop up 1704 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 1: from time to time, but becoming much more common. Ye uh, 1705 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 1: David Kerr with an interesting one. I have a question, 1706 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 1: what nickname would you give a Mr Brad melon Emmy 1707 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 1: l O n viper call signed viper? I mean, what 1708 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 1: he has pulled at this point, the things that he 1709 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 1: has accomplished, not only in his career but as a 1710 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: prankster are frankly unparalleled. And I would just say, like, 1711 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: you know how they have Like you know people sometimes 1712 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: their nicknames are you know, for example, well remember Pervis Ellison, 1713 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 1: wasn't he never nervous, never nervous, never nervous, never doubt? 1714 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Brad Melond, are you back to like it's a nickname? 1715 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: Never are you back to like like now trying to 1716 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: get into his favor is it? Does this come full circle? 1717 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 1: We don't know where we stand right now. We've had 1718 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: time of parneaking around since doesn't make the heart grow fonder. 1719 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 1: It felt like he was trying to come back into Yeah, 1720 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: what will you always do? I mean in that room 1721 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: that you're in right now. And he said, and you said, 1722 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Let's go, We'll see what happens. 1723 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens over the coming days. More pranks. 1724 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like there's nowhere to go. It's 1725 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 1: it's been done. There's nowhere to go but down from 1726 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: the quality of what he accomplished. Oh, I don't think 1727 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: that there's a long season ahead if you're going to 1728 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 1: put a challenge like that out. I'm not putting a 1729 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: challenge out. I'm just saying that I don't know that 1730 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: anything we'll top that. Didn't we What didn't we have 1731 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: a Brad Brad Melon Excellence Award. Maybe that's just maybe 1732 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 1: just Brad Excellence, mel Perfection, Mr Perfect, Mr Perfect and 1733 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,559 Speaker 1: Mr Perfecting has moved on. Now he carries the Moniker 1734 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of like that on the helm there was there 1735 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: was the nature boy, Buddy Lindell, and then now you know, 1736 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: the nature boy Rick Flair just moved on, and now 1737 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 1: maybe we got Mr Perfect Brad Melon. I like it. 1738 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 1: By the way, in Top Gun Maverick, I like how 1739 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 1: they did Hangman on the on the helmet. I thought 1740 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: that with a couple of letters missing. Yeah, here we go. 1741 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,799 Speaker 1: All right, boy, would you rather win an Olympic medal 1742 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:52,680 Speaker 1: or an Academy Award? Olympic medal? Not even question? I 1743 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 1: think both. It depends on what it's in. Like am 1744 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,559 Speaker 1: I am I getting an Academy Award for like sound editing, 1745 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: or am I getting the Academy Award Best Actor? Am 1746 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 1: I getting an Olympic gold medal for the hundred meters 1747 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: or the fifty free? Or am I getting winning gold 1748 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: medal for judo? You know what I mean? I also 1749 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: have a very substantial income with that as well. Yeah, 1750 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: I feel like if you want an Oscar, you'd have 1751 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: pretty substant that as well. Um, I think, without question, 1752 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 1: the Oscar is the cooler relic, you know what I mean, 1753 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Like you put that on a mantel. It's a bit 1754 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,680 Speaker 1: of an attention getter. Everybody knows what it is, Like 1755 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: gold medal, You're it's gonna be hanging on something. How 1756 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,000 Speaker 1: are you going to be the greatest in the world. 1757 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: It's something that's pretty cool. Well yeah, I mean, I 1758 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 1: mean it's all you know. I don't know that you 1759 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 1: know you're the greatest in that in that moment, But 1760 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: there's also qualifications to it. I just think in terms 1761 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 1: of having one in your house, I would rather have 1762 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,679 Speaker 1: the oscar in my house. Together, we would be formidable. 1763 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 1: I'll have a gold pot acar quite more from me. 1764 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Give me the good one here. Would you rather all 1765 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 1: your walls be painted white? Or every room a different 1766 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 1: color white? Give me the hundred years one? I like 1767 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 1: this question. Would you rather go back in time one 1768 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: hundred years or forward in time one years? All right, 1769 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I gotta stay. Let's have some rules here. Do we 1770 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 1: have to stay where we are or do we get 1771 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: to do we get our knowledge we have now? Bobby, 1772 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: like my information that I have in my head now 1773 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 1: and I go back a hundred years? Are I out 1774 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: there just making the best of it? I think you're 1775 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,280 Speaker 1: out there making you're You've been like like Outlander. You 1776 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,680 Speaker 1: touch the stones and now you're either immersed in the 1777 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,920 Speaker 1: world a hundred years before or behind and so here 1778 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 1: without the knowledge. You have your same knowledge today like you. 1779 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I touched this wall, or I 1780 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 1: touched the screen and touch you, and poof, I'm a 1781 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 1: hundred years back or forward and I'm stuck there. That's 1782 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: where I'm at. Right, but you have the information of 1783 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: everything you know in the world in Give me that 1784 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: right now, give me that. I go back too, I 1785 01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: clean up, would you yea? With all the base and 1786 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I have Prohibition is going on in nineteen in the 1787 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, you're about to great depression about Capone in 1788 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 1: the Untouchables on Lakeside Drive. It's called hospitality. I'll be 1789 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:17,320 Speaker 1: just fine. I'm not worried about prohibition on a lot 1790 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 1: of things that are going on there. There's not a 1791 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: lot of you've got. You've got the great depression coming 1792 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 1: in the end of the decade, and then you've got 1793 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: I could see all that coming to you know, it's 1794 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 1: all coming. I know that it's coming. Like I would 1795 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 1: short stocks, I would be, I mean, I would be. 1796 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 1: You'd kill it. Yeah, you can make a lot of 1797 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 1: money in the stock market. I bet that's a good point. 1798 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 1: I like that. From now, let's let's be honest. We're 1799 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 1: not trending in a great way. Coach. No, we might 1800 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 1: be gone, brother, we might be gone. I would like 1801 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind being around there. In a hundred years. 1802 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:49,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we'll be able to like fly to 1803 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,200 Speaker 1: space and mab I can meet an alien. Cool. It 1804 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 1: feels like we're devolving. If you had me go back 1805 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: further to like Last of the Mohicans time I'm in. 1806 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 1: If I could have gone back further, I'd be in 1807 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 1: one more here real quick as we're up against it. 1808 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 1: He wanted less amenities. Yeah, from the bud Lighter Man, 1809 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I tune into daily. Uh love the show, wondering why 1810 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:20,000 Speaker 1: there's always so much more to come when there's definitely not. 1811 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 1: You don't get the show, Mike, I'm gonna here to 1812 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 1: hear to tell you about the time you think there's 1813 01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: nothing more to come, there's something to come. It's kind 1814 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: of like I feel like Mike would be two days 1815 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 1: into his internship, which would be a great thing for him. 1816 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 1: With us, it's so thrilled, and then we'd be like, hey, 1817 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 1: can you just do one thing for us, and he'd 1818 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, no, I'm not doing it. Yeah, haven't 1819 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: done it yet. Yeah, you gotta get those things done, Mike. 1820 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 1: That's the way that it works. Yeah, this is it's 1821 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,639 Speaker 1: not an option. This is the way that the thing goes. 1822 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: All right, good, John, you're good, give it, we're good. 1823 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Time to wrap it up and take her home. So 1824 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 1: much more to um. You're listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily 1825 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily ESPN. What did we 1826 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: settle on? We want to go back fifty years. That's 1827 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:30,600 Speaker 1: really we start there with our knowledge, with our with 1828 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: our understanding of the world. We're really big. Bill Gates 1829 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 1: is Bill Gates is making a computer and his uh 1830 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: in his garage and guess hey, Bill, Hey, we'd love 1831 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 1: to be get involved in this. Sure would do you 1832 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: need some starter cash? Three hundred bucks? Buddy? That buys me? 1833 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Can I get in on this? I'd love to get 1834 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 1: in on it. In the lifestyle choices you and I 1835 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: would have at that time, from the from through the 1836 01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: seventies and the eighties and for coats, oh god, the 1837 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: only scene I'm not sure. How do you think we 1838 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,479 Speaker 1: would have done in the disco era? You think that 1839 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,640 Speaker 1: would have been? That? Never really spoke to me. I 1840 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know how it would have done it? What you 1841 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 1: would have thrived? We've been dancing around, haven't done the 1842 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 1: time of your life? Yeah? That would have had something 1843 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 1: quite debauched. I would have got to hang out with 1844 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Frank Savero in his prime. That's funny as we're doing 1845 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 1: the show here, I got uh and're doing alive. He's 1846 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 1: let's see. Let me ask you this. Why is it 1847 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 1: always a hundred thousand degrees outside? And why is his 1848 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 1: house always fifty five? Can't you just turn the heat 1849 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: up a little? He likes that cold. Preserve the us, 1850 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 1: save the money, Frank, you don't have to have it. 1851 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 1: You don't have to chill the if you're freezing, keep 1852 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: it at seventy two, buddy, No one's gonna no one's 1853 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna puld it against you. We're off tomorrow of Core. 1854 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 1: By the time we get to next week, the season 1855 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 1: is on. We are back on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. 1856 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Clean bronz Alia fifty, ESPN Cleveland. You've 1857 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the 1858 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and ESPN eight fifty w k n R