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Speaker 1: What's up this way up for the Angela Yee.

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Speaker 2: I'm Angela Yee and I'm excited to have Senator Kevin

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Speaker 1: Hello, Senator, how you doing, Angela? I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm fantastic. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you're here today because there's so

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Speaker 2: many things for me as a New Yorker and a

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn person that we need to discuss. You know, it

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Speaker 2: is an election year for many people.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for you right now? Are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We have a Democratic primary happening across the state of

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Speaker 4: New York on Tuesday, June twenty fifth, Okay, So everybody

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Speaker 4: in the state legislature, both the members of the Assembly

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Speaker 4: and members of the Senate like myself and members of

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Speaker 4: Congress have their Democratic primaries on June twenty fifth, and

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Speaker 4: then the general election in November.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that's why we always tell people it is important

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Speaker 2: to vote in all of these elections. You know, you've

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Speaker 2: been an a senator. You've been a Senator for how

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Speaker 2: long now.

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Speaker 3: Only twenty one years?

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Speaker 1: Twenty one years? That is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Even just following your trajectory. First of all, I definitely

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Speaker 2: see all the work that you do in the community.

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Speaker 2: I've been at several of the events that you've had.

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Speaker 2: But now there are some major issues and major things

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Speaker 2: all the time about this, but right now in New

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Speaker 2: York in particular, everything that's been happening with the migrants

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Speaker 2: that we have here. You know, these are human beings,

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Speaker 2: being inhumane. But then there are New Yorkers who are

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Speaker 2: And so I just want you to clarify some things

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Speaker 2: because sometimes people feel like, why are we overlooking our

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Speaker 2: who are here temporarily are getting more resources than New

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Speaker 2: Yorkers are.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely well, first of all, let me begin by saying,

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Speaker 4: as another Brooklyn Night, how proud Brooklyn is of you

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Speaker 4: and all you're doing, both with your broadcast career as

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Speaker 4: well as the businesses that you're that you're establishing.

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Speaker 3: Right in the community.

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Speaker 4: And I think everybody is just thrilled about that because

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Speaker 4: we'd like to see people come home and you haven't

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Speaker 4: forgotten where you come from. But we're very proud of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is, you know, people should know like

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Speaker 4: where I represent. So I represent Flatbush in these Flatbush Midwood,

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Speaker 1: To King's Plaza where I'm from.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: And I'm the chairman of the Energy and Telecommunications Committee

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Speaker 4: we deal with and a lot of you know, competing priorities,

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Speaker 4: and obviously the migrant crisis is one that has hit

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Speaker 4: all of us very very hard.

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Speaker 3: The first thing to know.

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Speaker 4: Is that this is not a crisis that is kind

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Speaker 4: created by Republican governors in Florida, you know, Rhonda Santis

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Speaker 4: mostly New York and democratic cities primarily right, New York, Chicrgo, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: They've even been dropping people off, like in front of

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Speaker 2: I remember that, right, So human beings are being used

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Speaker 4: As pawns, it's political footballs, right, and it's just really

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Speaker 4: it's horrible. But New York is not going to you know,

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Speaker 4: A lot of these folks are you know, in status,

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Speaker 4: Figure out resources for them and space for them is

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Speaker 4: a problem. And to be honest with you and transparent,

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Speaker 4: the state needs to do more. There's more space in

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Speaker 4: the state than there is in the City.

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Speaker 3: Of New York.

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Speaker 2: Think that too, because whenever I'm driving upstate. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: but you know, everybody's always like, not in my backyard, right.

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Speaker 4: Correct, that issue, what we call nimbi and not in

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Speaker 4: people should be very clear is that we have in

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Speaker 3: Largest budgets in the entire country. Right.

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Speaker 4: The largest budget, of course, is the federal government's budget,

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Speaker 4: you know, over eleven trillion dollars literally, and then the

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Speaker 4: Our n active budget this year for twenty four, twenty three,

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Speaker 4: twenty four is two hundred and twenty nine billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: If we were our own country, we be the twenty

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Speaker 4: ninth Sorry, we be the twelfth largest economy in the

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Speaker 4: Right, And then when you look at the State of

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Speaker 4: So the third largest budget after the federal government and

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Speaker 4: Even though the State of New York has the fourth

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Speaker 4: we still have the third largest budget. And then you

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Speaker 3: He first started two years ago.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of issues around people with mental

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Speaker 4: If anybody rides the trains, they know that the trains

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Speaker 2: We're going to need to make sure those trains are

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that in a second, but go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're trending in the right and the right direction.

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Speaker 4: We have not nearly gotten the kind of resources that

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Speaker 4: the state has not been as responsive as it needs

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Speaker 4: to be. And certainly those are conversations that many legislators

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Speaker 4: plenty of space upstate New York. Right, we're not talking

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Speaker 4: immigration issues. Right, because it's a border city, right, it's

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Speaker 4: there's a lot more I think that can be done,

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Speaker 4: We've done a great deal with what we've had to

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Speaker 4: this point. But let's be very clear that we've walked

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Speaker 4: into gum at the same time, right, because simultaneously we

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Speaker 3: We have been dealing with the.

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Speaker 4: Issues around housing is and we're not nearly done, but

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Speaker 4: we are addressing those issues. And so you know, people

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Speaker 4: should reach out to the legislators and really understand the facts, right,

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Speaker 4: And that's somewhat true, but not always true.

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Speaker 2: Because that's why I want to make sure you can

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Speaker 2: put some clarity to that, because I see a lot

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Speaker 4: Because you know, the mayor has done again a great

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Speaker 1: Making sure that there can be zoned for right and.

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Speaker 4: So what they're doing is they spit up the process

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Speaker 3: And people who are in shelters, we're not don't about migrants.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about New Yorkers who are currently in shelters

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Speaker 1: So do you feel like that doesn't get discussed.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't, not nearly, not nearly as much as the show.

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Speaker 1: I think that is that because.

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Speaker 4: They you know the African proverb that says that a

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Speaker 4: out of okay, right, And it's sexier for people to

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Speaker 4: think that they're being cheated in some way. Oftentimes people

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Speaker 4: are using this stuff escapegales. But be clear that the

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Speaker 4: State of New York and the City of New York

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Speaker 2: You know, as we talk about elections, I want to

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Speaker 2: ask you your thoughts on when Governor Kathy Hoko was

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Speaker 2: running against the lee Zelden and it felt like it

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Speaker 2: was way closer than we would have anticipated.

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Speaker 1: Yes, in the State of New York.

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened there and what are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts about moving forward, Because sometimes I feel like we

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Speaker 2: can be really discouraged to even go out and vote

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Speaker 2: and make sure that people are registered to vote, but

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Speaker 1: It for granted in New York.

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Speaker 2: I think that people always feel like New York is liberal,

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Speaker 2: New York is democratic.

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Speaker 4: Well, first thing, I think that people have to stop

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Speaker 4: looking at politics as an event and look at it

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Speaker 4: as a process and not just show up on election day.

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Speaker 4: People have to get involved in their community boards, right.

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Speaker 4: I think people should start where they are. If you

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: Right, and this is all representative, and this is what

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Speaker 2: it should be of the people who make us.

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Speaker 1: You know who you govern.

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Speaker 4: Last point, we have more black women elected to the

446
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Speaker 4: state legislature than any other state legislature in the history

447
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Speaker 4: of the United States in the very moment in New York.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible.

449
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Speaker 2: You know, I got to ask you, what made you

450
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Speaker 2: decide twenty one years ago that you wanted to be

451
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Speaker 2: a senator.

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Speaker 3: Well, it started actually before then.

453
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Speaker 4: I actually grew up in public housing, right, So I

454
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Speaker 4: actually grew up first ten years of my life in

455
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Speaker 4: the bushwrock houses.

456
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Speaker 3: And I used to get busted to school.

457
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Speaker 4: And my mother told used to tell the story that

458
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Speaker 4: when I was like seven or eight years old, she picked

459
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Speaker 4: from school one day and I tell her that I

460
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Speaker 4: want to be president of United States because I want

461
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Speaker 4: to change the way that black people live. Most of

462
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Speaker 4: my family lived in various public housing across across the city.

463
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Speaker 3: My grandmother most notably lived.

464
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Speaker 4: In King's Walk in Brooklyn, And so you know, it

465
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Speaker 4: kind of was always a thing that I just had

466
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Speaker 4: in my mind. I told my mother want to be president.

467
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Speaker 4: She says, I probably need to be a lawyer, because

468
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Speaker 4: most presidents of lawyers, thinking at minimal sure, get a lawyer.

469
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Speaker 3: I deal, not at all, not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 4: So I never went to law school, but I always

471
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Speaker 4: kind of had this idea that I wanted to be elected.

472
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Speaker 4: Went to pun State University, got a degree in public policy,

473
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Speaker 4: got a master's degree in urban policy and management from

474
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Speaker 4: the New School for Social Research. Was a New York

475
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Speaker 4: City urban fellow. Worked for a woman named Roof Messenger

476
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Speaker 4: when she was the Manhattan Ball President. Worked on Uni

477
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Speaker 4: Clark's first campaign Clark is yep, yep, yeah, so Mama

478
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Speaker 4: and Yuna. And worked for Nick Perry, who is a

479
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Speaker 4: former assemblyman who is now the US Ambassador of Jamaica.

480
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Speaker 3: Worked for him for a little while, and so it

481
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Speaker 3: kind of came up. The rest before that, it looked

482
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Speaker 3: worked like.

483
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Speaker 4: A slave to become the master, and so you know,

484
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Speaker 4: it was just kind of a natural transition. Also, in

485
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Speaker 4: my community, all the things that I'm telling you that

486
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Speaker 4: we should do in our communities, I did. I served

487
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Speaker 4: on the community board seventeen I was a member of

488
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Speaker 4: the sixth seventh Precinct Council. In my community, I was

489
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Speaker 4: on the board of NHS of Brooklyn. I was on

490
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Speaker 4: the board of Nazareth Regional High School for a number

491
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Speaker 4: of years. And so the combination of my policy interests

492
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Speaker 4: and my activism in the community gave me an opportunity

493
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Speaker 4: to elevate my service, and I ran for the city

494
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Speaker 4: council in two thousand and Actually the election day was

495
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Speaker 4: actually nine eleven, oh wow, and they had to reschedule it.

496
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Speaker 4: They reschedule it for two weeks later, to September twenty fifth.

497
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Speaker 4: The election didn't quite go the way I hoped, But then,

498
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: That was a really unique situation.

500
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Speaker 3: It was.

501
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Speaker 4: It was, but you know, it's all in God's plan

502
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: because they redistricted in two thousand all so they drew

503
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Speaker 4: a brand new state Senate district State Center at that

504
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Speaker 4: time sixty one members of sixty two members.

505
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Speaker 3: My district was the sixty second district. I lived there.

506
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Speaker 4: People said, you know, you ran a great race for

507
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Speaker 4: city council, you should run for Senate. And I got

508
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 4: everybody who didn't support me for the city council who

509
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Speaker 4: supported me.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, that's for the Senate.

511
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Speaker 2: I always feel like this is so true when people

512
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: run for office, even if you don't necessarily win your

513
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: first election, that is a great setup to keep pushing

514
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Speaker 2: forward and do what's coming next. Because sometimes people feel like,

515
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Speaker 2: oh I lost, you know, that's the end of it.

516
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Speaker 2: But sometimes there's a bigger purpose too.

517
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Speaker 3: That's right.

518
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Speaker 4: Sometimes a setback is a setup for a comeback, and

519
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Speaker 4: so for me it definitely was. And so I've had

520
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Speaker 4: the honor of representing the twenty first district for twenty

521
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Speaker 4: one years. In some you know, kind of formation or another.

522
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Speaker 2: When people feel like there should be term limits, what

523
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts about that. Sometimes people are like, oh, well,

524
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Speaker 2: this person's been here for so long. And I know

525
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Speaker 2: whenever I see people running in against somebody who's the incumbent,

526
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Speaker 2: they always use that as part of the reason why

527
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Speaker 2: they feel like you should vote for me.

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Speaker 1: This person's been in this position. You need some fresh

529
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Speaker 1: new blood.

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Speaker 4: Three quick points. Term limits are lazy democracy. It throws

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Speaker 4: the baby out with the bath order right. You Also,

532
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Speaker 4: when you have a body in which most of the

533
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Speaker 4: body is not is majority majority or majority white. The

534
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Speaker 4: only way for black leadership to rise is dough seniority.

535
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Speaker 4: So if you get rid of term limits, you also

536
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Speaker 4: get rid of seniority. So if you look at somebody

537
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: like Carl Hasty or somebody like andres to a cousin's,

538
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: they've been able to or Adrian Adams, they've been able

539
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Speaker 4: to raise their leadership to that point because they have seniority, right,

540
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Speaker 4: because everybody, if you're just thrown out the baby with

541
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Speaker 4: the bath order, you don't have seniority. And then if

542
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Speaker 4: it's just purely your numbers game, it's going to be

543
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Speaker 4: difficult to get black and Latino leadership in those positions

544
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Speaker 4: because you will always wind up typically with white guys, right,

545
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Speaker 4: And so people have to be careful with that. The

546
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Speaker 4: other part is that you also make the staff stronger

547
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Speaker 4: than the members, and the staff are not elected. With

548
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Speaker 4: all the respect to the staff, many of them are

549
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: very good and dedicated public servants. But if you have

550
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Speaker 4: a staff member who's been there ten years and you

551
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: only have a member that's been there three, they're going

552
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Speaker 4: to be leaning on the staff, and oftentimes you can

553
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: get outcomes that you don't anticipate. And so you have

554
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: term limits in a way, right, you have an election

555
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Speaker 4: I've come up for re election every two years.

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Speaker 1: You have to still deliver, and I still.

557
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Speaker 4: Have delivery and people and people have an opportunity if

558
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Speaker 4: they don't like my leadership, to reject it and pick

559
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Speaker 4: somebody else.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you, since we talked about how

561
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Speaker 2: hard that would be for black and Latino people if

562
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Speaker 2: you were going to have term limits, do you think

563
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Speaker 2: that our mayor Eric Adams, there's a lot of racism

564
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Speaker 2: involved with how people are trying to portray him and

565
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Speaker 2: his leadership in the position that he's in because I've

566
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Speaker 2: heard people say that he gets a lot a lot,

567
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Speaker 2: I feel like more than most mayors I can think

568
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Speaker 2: of in my lifetime.

569
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, they did it to David Dinkins and then now

570
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Speaker 4: you know, doing it to the mayor as well. When

571
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Speaker 4: you look at what he's done in the last two

572
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: years into the city has been absolutely you know, transformational.

573
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Speaker 3: Again, we could look at crime.

574
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Speaker 4: We look at the numbers of people with mental health

575
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Speaker 4: and homeless on the street and how that's been transformed.

576
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Speaker 3: We look at the economy. If you look at gun violence.

577
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Speaker 4: That is down in places like Brownsville, literally seventy percent

578
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: is down seventy percent, right and so again the work

579
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: is not done, and there's still lots to be done,

580
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: but the city is not where it was two years ago,

581
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Speaker 4: thank god. And because a lot because of the leadership

582
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Speaker 4: of Eric Adams, our mayor, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, because you've had to go through a lot of

584
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Speaker 2: different leadership when it comes to the mayors.

585
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I've served. This is my fifth mayor. Wow,

586
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Speaker 4: I think five or six governors. Yeah, A favorite, A favorite,

587
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Speaker 4: A favorite mayor Eric.

588
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the current mayor, Eric? Yeah? No.

589
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Speaker 4: But also obviously I know Eric really well. We sat

590
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Speaker 4: next to each other in the state in the Florida

591
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Speaker 4: State Senate. Some people have seen this picture of it's

592
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: been going around at one point saying that these Wereyvon

593
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: Trayvon Martin's lawyers, But it was actually in the state Senate.

594
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Speaker 4: It was me, Eric and Bill Perkins and got rest

595
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Speaker 4: of the soul. But that was in that was in

596
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: the state Senate a number of years ago. So, you know,

597
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 4: we worked very closely. We continue to work closely. I

598
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: mean a lot of issues that the city's dealing with

599
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 4: also come up to the state. If you look at

600
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 4: things like marital control, if you look at like you know,

601
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Speaker 4: community hiring, which was a bill I worked on with

602
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: the City of New York last year that we made

603
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: law that really gives a preference to contractors who are

604
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: hiring directly from our communities to get city contracts. You know,

605
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Speaker 4: if you look at the even the migrant crisis, that

606
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Speaker 4: is something that has been a city and state partnership

607
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Speaker 4: and something that we're going to have to figure out together,

608
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Speaker 4: and so we continue to work together. I continue to

609
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Speaker 4: be very proud of what he does and think that

610
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Speaker 4: he's working hard and agree with you that he's certainly

611
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Speaker 4: not getting the kind of you know, honeymoon that that

612
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Speaker 4: Michael Bloomberg for instance, had for four years.

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Speaker 3: Right.

614
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you.

615
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Speaker 3: Know, being a white billionaire has its privileges.

616
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Speaker 2: And you know, also I think he gets a lot

617
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Speaker 2: of criticism because of his relationship with the police department,

618
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Speaker 2: and people would be like, oh, well, he's a cop.

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Speaker 2: And I saw recently with the How Many Stops Act

620
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Speaker 2: that was something that was overruled that, you know, and

621
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Speaker 2: I want you to explain that because sometimes things happen

622
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Speaker 2: in government and when you read about it in the media,

623
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Speaker 2: it may be different than what the actual what was

624
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Speaker 2: behind that is. But it does feel like some there

625
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: are disagreements, and that's what the system is set up for.

626
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Speaker 2: If we don't agree with what one person is saying,

627
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Speaker 2: then we have the right to overrule that.

628
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Speaker 1: But I want to hear your thoughts on that.

629
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Speaker 3: Well.

630
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Speaker 4: First of all, I'm a leader in the state on

631
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Speaker 4: the issue of police accountability. Right after the murder of

632
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Speaker 4: George Floyd, the State of New York was the first

633
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Speaker 4: state in the entire country to pass a set of

634
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Speaker 4: reforms around policing, and we passed a set of bills

635
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Speaker 4: that up with about ten bills. Four over mind two

636
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 4: others were issues that I actually began the work on,

637
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Speaker 4: and so including you know, the right you know, reaffirming

638
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: the right to record police right and making sure that

639
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: we have body cameras on state police right. With some

640
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 4: of the things that we helped make law. I believe

641
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: that we need to have a police department that serves

642
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Speaker 4: and protects, but does it with dignity and respect.

643
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Speaker 3: And I think the mayor believes that as well.

644
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Speaker 4: And so this notion that we're going to have abolitionism

645
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: or you know, not have a police force, I think

646
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: it's just you know, absurd, But we do need to have.

647
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: I think we simultaneously need to have a police force

648
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: that again respects the communities. I have some legislation and

649
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: hopefully will pass at some point that requires it creates

650
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 4: a residency requirement for police officers.

651
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Speaker 3: One of the other things that we did was.

652
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Speaker 2: Actually, you know, that's interesting that you say that. I

653
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: just want to cut you off there, because somebody I

654
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: know is a sergeant and he was telling me that

655
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to live where he works because he

656
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: doesn't want certain things could happen if they know where

657
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Speaker 2: he lives, and that's difficult for him to be able

658
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: to do his job effectively and have to worry about

659
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: somebody being mad or wanting to take revenge.

660
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Speaker 4: Right, But he can live in Brooklyn and work in

661
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: the Bronx, right, right, No, no, no, no, But you have to

662
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Speaker 4: live in the city or in the city of New York.

663
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Speaker 3: Right.

664
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Speaker 4: We also need to do a better job at not

665
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: alienate the job as police and really recruit from our

666
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: own communities to make so that black latinos Asians and

667
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: women are part of that of our police department, because again,

668
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: you get different outcomes when you're policing yourselves as opposed

669
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: to now which what we're signing up for is an

670
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: invading force of white guys from Jersey policing US. And so,

671
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: you know, so I think that the mayor understands that

672
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: we need a strong police force. If you actually look

673
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: over the last number of years, we've had less incidences

674
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: of abuse by police, in part because we've passed those

675
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: those reforms. We also have people like Erik Gonzales and

676
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: Darcel Clark and Alvin Bragg who have shown that they

677
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: were willing to prosecute police when they in fact cross

678
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: the line, and I think that has made a difference

679
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: in the way police.

680
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: Do you think police should have to document every time

681
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: they stab someone?

682
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: I think that the law that the city council passed

683
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: makes sense. I think that it was more of a

684
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: process issue between the city council and the mayor. It

685
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: is now going to be the law of the city

686
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: being the city Council overrode the mayor's veto. Again, these

687
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: issues are very very difficult to kind of work out.

688
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: We certainly don't want to need police officers' ability to

689
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: do their job, but we simultaneously need to make sure

690
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: that there's enough accountability that we don't have abuses in

691
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: the system.

692
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I also want to make sure

693
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: we talk about, because this is supposedly happening soon.

694
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Speaker 1: This congestion pricing.

695
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not congestion pricing.

696
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: It's not, So what is it.

697
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: So it's the Transit Mobility Plan. And I make this

698
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: point because I argue with everybody about this, right because

699
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm literally the person who may who fought with Governor

700
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: Cuomo to get rid of the.

701
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Name congestion pricing.

702
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Congestion pricing really tells us that once we do this plan,

703
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: that there's going to be less congestion in the city.

704
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: And the transit Mobility Plan Okay, okay, So what happened

705
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: about five years ago, six years ago, is that we

706
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: had a study and I said essentially that we needed

707
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: forty billion dollars in order to create improvements on the

708
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: MTA system in order to make it more effective and

709
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: efficient and cleaner, safer, right, forty billion dollars. So we

710
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: needed a money grab, and so they went to this

711
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: plan to do it. And so this plan literally is

712
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 4: to get us about twenty nine We actually don't even

713
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: get to the whole forty billion. We only get to

714
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: about twenty nine billion using the plan, and twenty nine

715
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: billion is for the MTA to do these upgrades that

716
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: were create efficiencies and create capacity, make it cleaner, and

717
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: make it safer, all the things.

718
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Right.

719
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Speaker 4: The reason why I'm arguing that it's not a congestion

720
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: pricing plan is because nothing about the plan actually stops

721
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: cars from coming in the city. That are the ones

722
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: that are creating the congestion. And there weds the four

723
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: categories of vehicles that come into Manhattan, and I'm going

724
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: to give you the.

725
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: List of the.

726
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: Vehicles by volume. So the first volume are yellow cabs

727
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: and sharing ride shares, right, the second is black cars,

728
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: the third are trucks.

729
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: The fourth of residential vehicles.

730
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: Okay, right, Residential vehicles are the least number of vehicles

731
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Speaker 4: coming into the city. They're the only ones that have

732
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Speaker 4: an economic distancect them not to come into the city

733
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: because yellow car, yellow cabs and ride shares are going

734
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: to pass the cost onto the rider. Right, So when

735
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: you get in then uber, they're going to pass the

736
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: costs onto you.

737
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: Right.

738
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Speaker 4: If you're in a black car, same thing, they're going

739
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: to pass the ride onto the rich people who ride

740
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: around the black cars.

741
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: Right. Also, you and then.

742
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: You don't know how cheap I am, but go ahead,

743
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: and then and then their truck, and then there's trucks

744
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: fifteen eighty cents.

745
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: Like me, you got more time than money.

746
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'll take that fifteen right, right.

747
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: And then you have trucks which also again will pass

748
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: the cost of their of their deliveries onto whoever the

749
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 4: customer is. So there's no economic conceptive for any of

750
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: them not to come into the zone. So they'll still

751
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: be coming to the zone.

752
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: So what is what is the lack with the congestions?

753
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Still they did studies. Everybody talks about London. They do

754
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: it in the UK.

755
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: It's not that effective in London. It's a different dynamic.

756
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you one of the biggest deals if

757
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: you've been have you been to London downtown? If you live,

758
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: if you live downtown. Nobody lived downtown London. They don't

759
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: people live people live downtown Manhattan. So we talked about

760
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: this whole area between eighty sixth Street and people live downtown.

761
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: People live like a block away from the stock market, right,

762
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: and so nobody like what about those people's people still

763
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: have to move around, so nobody's gonna stop coming to

764
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: Manhattan because.

765
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Speaker 2: They didn't make it more difficult for people who do

766
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: have to like anything.

767
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna it's a it's a middle class tax.

768
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it is what it is, right and

769
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: and unfortunately they they're trying to brand it in a

770
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: way that makes it seem like there's there's another good

771
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: that comes out of it. But this really was a

772
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: money grab in order for us to get that you know,

773
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: twenty nine billion, in order to put to MTA to

774
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: make it safer. Now, in theory, and this was prior

775
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: to COVID. In theory, having a better, more efficient, safer,

776
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: cleaner subway system would encourage people to be on the subway.

777
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 4: But that again, that was pre COVID. We'll see what happened,

778
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: you know, once we actually.

779
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Sawt So is this really getting implemented like in.

780
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: The well again, we have some we have some legal

781
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: challenges that have to be be done first, but they're

782
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: already putting up the infrastructure.

783
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: H what if you try to, like because you know,

784
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm already thinking of ways around it, like say I

785
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: drive in, but I park right before it starts.

786
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah you're fine, Yeah, that's going to.

787
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: Create a lot of issues in those neighborhoods.

788
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, but.

789
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: It won't be it's not and that's gonna create that

790
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: much of a problem because there's no place to parking

791
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: in Manhattan anywhere.

792
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: Right, you have to park in a lot, Right.

793
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: They're going to one of them city bikes.

794
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: Because I'm wondering how it's going to affect businesses also,

795
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: and parking lots like in Midtown if people are trying

796
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: not to you know, drive in.

797
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: Again, those are only residential.

798
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Those are normally the people who park in the lots

799
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: in the city.

800
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they'll they'll, they'll, they'll do fine.

801
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: I have so many things because this is all personal.

802
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: I think about all of these things as a person

803
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: who is from New York who lives in New York.

804
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I want.

805
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: To say has been I see some great movement on

806
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: his small businesses in New York and things that you

807
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: guys have been doing to make sure that we're able

808
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: to get the resources that we need. I just reopened

809
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: my juice bar, the nurish spot BK with Don Kelly,

810
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: So shout out to Don Kelly. She has a nurse

811
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: spot in Queens and just last week we reopened where

812
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: I used to have my juice bar and now we

813
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: have one together.

814
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: I just met doing Oh you did get and so

815
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: we've been.

816
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: We had to work really hard to get everything, like

817
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: all of the everything done that we needed to get

818
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: the inspections to make sure that we pass and they

819
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: definitely worked with us to get that done. So I

820
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: just want to talk about small businesses because that is

821
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: kind of the heart of New York and what drives

822
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: the economy.

823
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 3: That kind is the heart.

824
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: I mean, this city is a city of small businesses

825
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: right everywhere you go. You know, people a lot of

826
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: times who don't live in New York think of New

827
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: York as Manhattan, but that's not where people live. People

828
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: work here and do business here in the midtown Manhattan,

829
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: but people live in Brooklyn and Queens in the Bronx

830
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 4: right and a little bits down island.

831
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: We don't hit to stand.

832
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: And so when you talk about small businesses, they literally

833
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: are the heart and soul of our communities because that's

834
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: literally where we're spending the vast majority of our money

835
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: and our time. And so you have a lot of

836
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: organizations like the Brooklyn Chamber of Commerce.

837
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, they came out for thank you so much

838
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: commerce and so you.

839
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 4: Know, organizations like that, and also the New York City

840
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: Small Business Administration under Commissioner Kevin Kim, who's been working

841
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 4: really really hard, Thank you, commission to making sure that

842
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 4: that people have access to the resource and then we're

843
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: speeding up the process. A lot of the burden on

844
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: small business has been an administrative one, and I think

845
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: that the Adams Administration, led by Commissioner Kim, has really

846
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: spent a lot of time and a lot of effort

847
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 4: has been intentional about trying to cut the red tape

848
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 4: and create you know, opportunities for small businesses to thrive.

849
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we get really nervous when it's time for

850
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: surprise inspection. And so it's fortunate out there because sometimes

851
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: it's a little thing that can lower your but they

852
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: give you some time now to fix whatever it is,

853
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: you know, minor things so that you can actually not

854
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: work because I know, I see that B or that

855
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: C in the window and I'm like, oh, I don't

856
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: know if I going here, but it could be something

857
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: really you know, min like minor that could be causing

858
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: that grade to happen.

859
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: And that does affect a business.

860
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: It does, It does, and then also a lot of

861
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: businesses also are not getting the kind of help that

862
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: they need around getting contracting right. So yours is more

863
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: of a retail business, but a lot of small businesses

864
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: that have access to contracting. And the Women of Mi

865
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: Naughty Business Enterprise program has been another success that we

866
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: see both on the state level but also on the

867
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: city level with the mayor. In fact, I went to

868
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: an event last week where him and my good friend

869
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: Mike Gardner, you know who used to be at the

870
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: MTA now is the diversities are in the city and

871
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: has really been.

872
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: I just met him to my mom was like, my

873
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: Gardener is going to be there, My mom, are New

874
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: York City trains right?

875
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they know each other from there, right, And

876
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: so you know, my Gardener has really really done a

877
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: yeoman's job at you know, raising the stakes, making sure

878
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: that the different agencies in the city work collaboratively and

879
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 4: create synergy around getting accessed for more contracts for mwbs.

880
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: And literally I think that.

881
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: Number is like something like six something like six billion

882
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 4: dollars in contracting that they've done just the women in minority.

883
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: It can help a business go from about to shut

884
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: down to thriving.

885
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 4: But more importantly, when you put black women like yourselves

886
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: and on into business, you hire other black women in

887
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: the communities and so and so I'm less concerned, and

888
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: I think they're less concerned with petty buschwar capitalism and

889
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: about whether you can afford a black car or not,

890
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 4: and more about whether you know that leads to full

891
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 4: time jobs with a living wage with benefits.

892
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, our manages a black woman at the shop exactly.

893
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: We just reopened. And last thing I want to talk

894
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: about is what are we doing about the education system

895
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: and the youth in New York Because I feel like

896
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: when we were younger, there were so many more programs

897
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: that were available as far as making sure that the

898
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: kids in the summertime, you know, had jobs, had different

899
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: things going on, and after school programs and even the

900
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: education system.

901
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Nutrition.

902
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: I feel like it's something that's not discussed enough in schools.

903
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: I always felt like that was And you know, maybe

904
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm biased because of the juice bar that I have,

905
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: but I think about the meals that kids have in

906
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: school sometimes and how that can affect their attention span,

907
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: their energy, their you know, their weight even and their healthy. Yeah,

908
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about some things that are

909
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: being done in the schools. I always hear, oh, they

910
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: cut the budgets in the education system in New York.

911
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: But I look, I read things, and it depending on

912
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: where you read things, you don't know what's true and

913
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: what's not.

914
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: So I want to get it to Yeah.

915
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: So initially in the mayor's budget there was a cut

916
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: that he's now reversed on. But people should know that

917
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: in the state of New York, we spend more money

918
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: per pupil than any other state in the history of

919
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: United States. So we're spending more money than anybody else

920
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: per pupil on education. When you look at the one

921
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty nine billion dollar budget that I talked

922
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: about earlier for twenty three twenty.

923
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 3: Four, the largest expense is education. Right.

924
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: We spend almost forty six billion dollars on education.

925
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: Right.

926
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: So money is there, The question is how do you

927
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 4: spend it? And I think under the leadership of Mayor

928
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Adams and Chancellor David Banks that we're seeing a transition

929
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: and what's happening in schools. One of the big pushes

930
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: that we are seeing from the state legislature has been

931
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: an insistence on smaller class sizes, and so.

932
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Speaker 3: We continue to work on that.

933
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: We think that that's going to have a big impact

934
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: on out on learning outcomes for young people.

935
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Speaker 3: And I'm a big proponent.

936
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Having grown up in New York City public schools, myself

937
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: went to p S one, I three whe the Hundey

938
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: Junior High School with the Midwood High School with Haikim

939
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Jeffreys and city council woman Pharah Lewis, you know myself

940
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: understanding how important you know, music, art, athletics and dance

941
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: were as regular parts of the curriculum school based athletics.

942
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: I was, you know, on the track team. I was

943
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: on a football team. I was on a handball team

944
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: right at Midwood.

945
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. I got to check.

946
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: I need to go down and challenge some of those kids.

947
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: You know, I think I still got it.

948
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, I don't.

949
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: See the handball in the double dutcheons.

950
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: No, no, no no. But they may still have a

951
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: handball tea. I know there was a court there, got it.

952
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: I doubt it, But people don't. Young people not really

953
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 4: paying handball.

954
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: The way they used to my HANDBA.

955
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: They used to do suicide when you got the bullet

956
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: and you do it as hard as you could as

957
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: somebody against the wall.

958
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: Man.

959
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Listen, we might have to bring back some handball games exactly.

960
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: But now that we have university, now that we have

961
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: universal pre K, the next step is actually go to

962
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: universal after school.

963
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: Every single school.

964
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: Building in the state of New York really should have

965
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: an after school program. And I really been have been

966
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: proposing for a long time a split between the various municipalities,

967
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: particularly New York City and the state. States should be

968
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: paying to keep those buildings open maintenance, security, and then

969
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: the city should be giving out contracts with local nonprofits

970
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: to run.

971
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: That would be amazing to run those prograss and win

972
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: for everybody.

973
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 4: But every single school should have one right and given

974
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: you know, again you understand how expensive real estate prices are,

975
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: and so you can't afford to build fifty million centers.

976
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: But you have these buildings that run fallow from three

977
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: pm to seven am the next day, we should be

978
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: using them in the evening. And and really, I say

979
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: a Beacon school model. The community school model is cute,

980
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: but the Begon school model I like is comes out

981
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: of Jeff Canada, who does Harlem Children's Ozone. But but

982
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: the Beigon school model uses the building not just for

983
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: young people to have homework, help in karate and basketball

984
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: and step team, but you also do programs for adults

985
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 4: as well. Maybe English has a second language, maybe Alan

986
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: on maybe job training, right, all the things that you know,

987
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 4: maybe you know resume writing, but you could use it

988
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: for you can you know you can do you know

989
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: the training that people need Osha training right, training in

990
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: AI right now they need for all they need training

991
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: and all the things.

992
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and artificial intelligence do you guys, So let me

993
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: ask your thoughts on that because that's been a huge

994
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: conversation and you are the cheer a committee on Energy

995
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: and telecommunications. So when it comes to artificial intelligence, making

996
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: sure that we're also prepared for what's going to happen,

997
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: because it is happening, you know, no matter what. So

998
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: making sure that we're actually going to be able to

999
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: be employed and have jobs where we're trained in being

1000
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: able to be on the side of using AI efficiently

1001
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: and to help businesses, and making sure that you know,

1002
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: we're not just left in the dark because we're scared

1003
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: of it.

1004
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: Right, there's two things that have to happen and one

1005
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: we're considering in the state legislature a privacy bill, and

1006
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: hopefully we'll get that resolve I hope in the budget,

1007
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: but we need that there's a privacy bills actually based

1008
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: on the California model. Will we make sure that we're

1009
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 4: protecting people and their privacy? I think beyond that, we

1010
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: also have to make sure that we're dealing with things

1011
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 4: like deep fakes. This was during the campaigns.

1012
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: Listen, I've gotten some of those called I'm sure, and

1013
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: I realized it was fake because the voice kept resaying

1014
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: the same things and then tried.

1015
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: To yeah, now what if somebody, I mean, what if somebody?

1016
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: I mean, you're very protective as you should be about

1017
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: your brand. Now somebody with this AI can take Angelo

1018
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: Uye's voice, you know, endors a candidate or endorse a

1019
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: product without you knowing, without their permission, right, And so

1020
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: we have to create a balance between protecting people and

1021
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: then simultaneously having a market open enough for people to

1022
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 4: create commerce and make our lives and the work that

1023
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 4: we do more efficient and better. And so we're trying

1024
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 4: to figure out where that balance is. It's a very

1025
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: new technology and so we don't have a lot of

1026
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: people that yeah, so we're just trying to figure all

1027
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: those things out. In fact, that's where I'm at dawn

1028
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: at where there was some small small business folks who

1029
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: were concerned about the bill that we're that we're looking

1030
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: at and making sure that small businesses are not adversely

1031
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: affected by that legislation because of you know, unforeseen consequences.

1032
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: So we're facilitating some conversations in Albany to make sure

1033
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: that small businesses are heard and so we understand where

1034
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: their perspectives are and how do we draw the line

1035
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: between protecting small businesses and also protecting consumers.

1036
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: You know, and you're over two decades of the work

1037
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: that you do.

1038
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: When you look at twenty twenty four, what do you

1039
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: feel like are the most are the three most challenging

1040
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: things that are happening in New York right now in

1041
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: your district?

1042
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, First of all, the migrant crisis is affecting every

1043
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: single district, and I think that it's you know, coming

1044
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: to a head in my district in a lot of

1045
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 4: different ways. Floyd Bennett Field is literally right outside, so

1046
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: that's in a place that they've been housing people. And

1047
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: so how we navigate and negotiate taking care of these

1048
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: human lives and putting.

1049
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: More of them on a.

1050
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: Path of self sufficiency is going to be absolutely critical.

1051
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: I think the second thing is climate change again, you know,

1052
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: it's it's such a big, big issue, but it's also

1053
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: an opportunity becausere's a lot of money is going to

1054
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: be made developing.

1055
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Solutions, right, That's what I was just saying the other day.

1056
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Whoever is like making the charging stations for electric vehicles

1057
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: where you need so many more of those? People want

1058
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: them like near their homes because that's the one thing

1059
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: about getting a car. You want to make sure you're

1060
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: able to find someplace to charge.

1061
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, range anxiety is a huge issue. But also not

1062
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 4: just the those charging stations, but those charging stations are machines.

1063
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: They're gonna break. Instead of questions, who's fixing them? Right?

1064
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: And so getting people trained up and doing the rate

1065
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 4: and the maintenance repair and the installation of those charging

1066
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 4: stations is also is going to be a big offer business. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,

1067
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: and then and then the third thing is the affordability gap.

1068
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: We have a huge affordability crisis. You know, we can't

1069
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: even afford the eggs anymore, you know, almost everything you know,

1070
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: as DJ red alert says, the cost of liviting is

1071
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 4: going up and the chance of living is going down,

1072
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: and so we have to kind of address that cost

1073
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: of living.

1074
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: New York.

1075
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: We do, we do, I know in my committee and

1076
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: the Energy and Telecom Committee, we've actually passed a set

1077
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 4: of recommendations to the committee. Last year, we actually passed

1078
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: the whole package out of the Senate. We're hoping the

1079
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: Assembly joins us this year that lower utility costs. Everybody's

1080
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: utility costs are going up everything you know, from gas, electric, water, cable,

1081
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 4: phone bills are all going up. You know, everybody got

1082
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: off of you know, everybody got on cable. Then anybody

1083
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: got off cable to go streaming, and now streaming is

1084
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: going up. It's like, you know, trying to figure out

1085
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: how do we create a dynamic where people can can

1086
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: you know, make money and then hold on to their

1087
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: money so that they can do the things they really

1088
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 4: want in terms of you know, raising their their children

1089
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: and making their lives better.

1090
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much for coming through

1091
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: and having this great coin.

1092
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1093
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: There's so many things we could touch on, but I

1094
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: know you'll be back.

1095
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: Look whatever you invite, all.

1096
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I appreciate you, Senator Kevin Parker. How can

1097
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: people find you again if they want to ask you

1098
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: any questions directly?

1099
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, First of.

1100
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Speaker 4: All, you can always call my office seven eight six

1101
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Speaker 4: two nine six four zero one. Again that's seven six

1102
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: two nine six four zero one.

1103
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Speaker 1: We got to make that like a jingle.

1104
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Speaker 4: Yes, And you can always find me on social media

1105
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 4: at Kevin Parker NYC. Again, It's Kevin Parker, n YC.

1106
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: And you can email me Parker at ny Senate dot gov.

1107
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 4: That's Parker at n Y Senate dot gov.

1108
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: And we can show up at the office too.

1109
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: Just pull up, you can.

1110
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: I've seen people do that.

1111
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: Pull up, hold up, I'm there all right.

1112
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Senator Kevin Parker.

1113
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: No, thanks for having me way up.