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Speaker 1: this lady, a wonderful woman. If you remember, she had

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Speaker 1: Muller's over. Now the curtain goes up, and it's Act two.

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Speaker 1: And this act actually has evidence. We will learn and

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Speaker 1: have evidence that Hillary was guilty of violating the Espionage

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Speaker 1: Act multiple felonies. We will learn that the investigation into

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Speaker 1: her felonies was rigged to protect the favored candidate, who

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Speaker 1: should win one hundred million to zero because Trump is loathsome.

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Speaker 1: We will learn that that there has been a premeditated

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Speaker 1: lie and fraud committed on FISA courts for the purpose

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Speaker 1: of spying on then candidate Donald Trump and his campaign,

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Speaker 1: and that that spying continued when he won the election

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Speaker 1: and became the president elect, and it continued even further

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Speaker 1: into his time as president, and that this was the

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Speaker 1: single biggest abuse of power because the people that think

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Speaker 1: that we Trump supporters are smelly walmart people, irredeemable deplorables,

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Speaker 1: people that cling to our God, guns, Bibles, and religion,

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Speaker 1: that we had no business making our choice for president

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Speaker 1: known because they knew better than us. And all of

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Speaker 1: those people that were warned by Bruce or In in

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Speaker 1: August to twenty sixteen and warned two weeks out of

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Speaker 1: the first FISA warrant being signed by James Comey and

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Speaker 1: the subsequent three other renew will warrants signed by Sally

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Speaker 1: Yates and Rosenstein and others. We're gonna learn that it

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00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: was all based on the phony bought and paid for

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Speaker 1: Russian Nazier, which for some reason Robert Muller didn't care

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Speaker 1: about because he was too busy on his mandate to

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Speaker 1: take down Trump and all the associated important subjects like

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00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: taxi medallions. So Act two now will be the revelations

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Speaker 1: of the biggest abuse of power. And if I was

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Speaker 1: James Comey or John Brennan or James Clapper, I would be,

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Speaker 1: as they seem to be, acting noticeably terrified because what

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Speaker 1: we know at this particular point, in spite of the

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00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: pet parents and the media lying in spreading conspiracy theories,

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00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: what we know is we have evidence here, we have facts.

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Speaker 1: It will be proven, and it's going to shock the

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Speaker 1: conscience of the American people because they rigged a presidential election,

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Speaker 1: they tried to steal it. They also rigged an investigation

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Speaker 1: into the favored candidate, and they tried to bludgeon the

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Speaker 1: opposition candidate over and over all. Right, I know that's

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Speaker 1: a lot to absorb. New King Rich when we get back,

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Speaker 1: we'll get his take on all of this. I think

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Speaker 1: he's totally conflicted because, as you know, he wanted to

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Speaker 1: be the FBI director and I said no. As you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a business dispute with him after he left

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Speaker 1: the FBI. We had a business dispute, not a nights one.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't he wasn't happy with what I did, and

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him, but I had to do it

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Speaker 1: because that was the right thing to do. But I

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00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: had a business dispute. And he loves Tomy. You look

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00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: at the relationship that does too, so whether it's love

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Speaker 1: or its deeplied, but he should he was conflicted. Look,

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: Robert Mueller should have never been chosen because he wanted

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Speaker 1: the FBI job and he didn't get it, and the

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Speaker 1: next day he was picked a special counsel. So you

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Speaker 1: tell somebody I'm sorry you can't have the job, and

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Speaker 1: then after you say that, he's going to make a

484
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Speaker 1: ruling on you. It doesn't work that way. Plus we

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Speaker 1: had a business dispute. Plus his relationship with Coomy was extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't he investigate Strup and Paige and mccaye and

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Speaker 1: Coomy and all the lies and Brennan and the lies

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Speaker 1: and Clapper and the lies to Congress. I think he

489
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: is a total conflicted person. I think Butler is a

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Speaker 1: truth never trumper. He's somebody that dislikes Donald Trump. He's

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Speaker 1: somebody that didn't get a job that it requested, that

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Speaker 1: he wanted very badly, and then he was appointed. And

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Speaker 1: despite that, and despite forty billion dollars, eighteen Trump painters,

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00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: including people that work for Hillary Clinton, and some of

495
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: the worst human beings on earth, they got nothing. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing. They got less than nothing. And the most

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Speaker 1: the amazing thing is how Muller releases a statement with

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General literally walking back what he had said,

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Speaker 1: as I've been pointing out here, backtracking on his own

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Speaker 1: press conference, trying to clarify matters because he knows darn

501
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: well what he said was not true. And the actual

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Speaker 1: statement that was released by the Special Counsel's Office and

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice that the Attorney General had previously stated,

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00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: the Special Counsel repeatedly affirmed by the way in front

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Speaker 1: of numerous people, that he was not saying that, In

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Speaker 1: other words, that he was not saying, oh, but for

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Speaker 1: this Justice Department policy, but for the OLC Office of

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Speaker 1: Legal Counsel opinion, that he would have found the President

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Speaker 1: obstructed justice. Then the joint statement goes on the Special

510
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Speaker 1: Counsel's report and statement today made clear that the office

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Speaker 1: concluded it would not reach any determination one way or another.

512
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: And because we got rid of the Independent Council statue

513
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: because people like Jerry Nayler wanted to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: And that means well, remember he didn't want the Star

515
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: report made public, but he wanted grand jury material in

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Speaker 1: the Mueller report made public. But the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: as the Attorney General had said repeatedly, and bar now

518
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: has confirmed as and Muller now has confirmed numerous times,

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00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: the consideration of Justice Department policy was not the determining factor.

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00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: And it just I mean, it is amazing that nobody

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00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: seems to pick up on the single biggest news item

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Speaker 1: from yesterday anyway, joining us to discuss this and many

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00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: other things. Former Speaker of the House new King Rich's

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00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: new book is called Collusion Ripped from Today's Headlines, he

525
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Speaker 1: tweeted out yesterday. Mueller tried today to have it both ways.

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Speaker 1: If he thought the president was guilty as something, he

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Speaker 1: should have said that he was guilty as something. Ken

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Speaker 1: Starr used the word guilty eleven times on eleven different counts,

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Speaker 1: and his report on President Clinton. If not guilty, Trump

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Speaker 1: is innocent. Well that's the way it used to work

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Speaker 1: in America, mister speaker, welcome back. Well, I think it's

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Speaker 1: the way it still works to America. I think that

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Speaker 1: Mueller just made a huge mistake, and I think that

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Speaker 1: it discredits deeply everything else he has said. Is particularly ironic,

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Speaker 1: almost almost funny that he, in the same paragraph says, now,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Russians are innocent until proven guilty, even

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Speaker 1: though they've been indicted, and then turns round and says

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Speaker 1: that he had not didn't have enough information to prove

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Speaker 1: that Trump was innocent. Well, he just set the standard

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Speaker 1: a second ago for Russians. If you are not guilty,

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Speaker 1: you are by definition innocent. We don't need a prosecutor

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Speaker 1: to declare your innocent. You have an automatic presumption of

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Speaker 1: innocence in America. And I think I just when he

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday, I just I couldn't believe it. It

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00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: was such a reversal of everything America stands for. And

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Speaker 1: I did a Facebook live last night. It's been about

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: twenty fives. I don't get quite your audience, but I

548
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to get it out of my system. And

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00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: by the time I got around to doing it, there

550
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: were several great op eds already written, including one by

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Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz that just took Mueller's position and shredded it.

552
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Speaker 1: And I think people should relax and just say, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not going to be any conviction in the US Senate.

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Speaker 1: I have a hunch there's not going to be any

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: real move in the House, and Miller now has positioned

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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: himself to look very foolish. Well. I think the other

557
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: thing is Robert Mueller is definitely afraid of going before Congress.

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Speaker 1: I thought a big part of yesterday for him was

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00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: to signal to Jerry Nadler, don't call me before Congress.

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00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: I have nothing else to add, and was not articulate

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Speaker 1: what he said, which is why they had to put

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Speaker 1: out a clarification of what he meant and the things

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00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: that he had said before, which he contradicted yesterday. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to have to answer, when

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Speaker 1: did you know that no collusion nor conspiracy occurred? Why

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Speaker 1: did you hire this abusively biased team, even Hillary Clinton's attorney,

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Speaker 1: Why would you hire somebody to be your pitbull with

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Speaker 1: the atrocious record of Andrew Weissman. And then the very

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Speaker 1: important question, which is all if he had time to

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Speaker 1: investigate Taxi medallion's loan applications, taxes and FARA violations. Why

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Speaker 1: did you give zero time considering your mandate was broad

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Speaker 1: enough to hit all those issues into a dirty Russian

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Speaker 1: dossier that was in fact bought and paid for and

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Speaker 1: used to influence the twenty sixteen election. How do you avoid,

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with that elephant in the room. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think the Mueller found himself over his head. I

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Speaker 1: think he did a very inadequate job. And and but

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Speaker 1: my view is let's focus people like Lindsey Graham on

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, not on Mueller in two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what I want to know is, you know,

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Speaker 1: why did the National Security Advisor seek to unmask and

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Speaker 1: on precedented number of Americans? Why the whole story of

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00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: the meeting and the airport in Phoenix. I mean, I

584
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: think you want to put somebody under oath. I'd like

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00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: to see the former attorney general put under oath and

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00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: ask what did she and Bill Clinton talk about for

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes? Mister speaker, I hate to correct you. We've

588
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: been friends for you know, thirty years, but it was

589
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. That's a long time. To talk about grandkids. Listen, No,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate your jersey, and I'll be glad to

591
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: return the favor one morning. But you're right, Well, it

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Speaker 1: just thanks the case peaker. I mean to suggest to

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Speaker 1: us that they happen to set up a meeting, that

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Speaker 1: they happen to be social. This is beyond any plausible credibility.

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00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: And so I think what I'm really interested in is

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Speaker 1: all the things that were done in twenty sixteen that

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Speaker 1: were I think inconceivable. How did they avoid going after

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Speaker 1: the guy who took a hammer to destroying the smartphones?

599
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, how can that not be obstruction of justice?

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Speaker 1: There's just so many things that they're want wrong in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen that we have still not even scratched the

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Speaker 1: surface of. And I'm hopeful that Attorney General bar is

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Speaker 1: going to dig into those and is going to release

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Speaker 1: some documents to enable the American people to understand just

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Speaker 1: how sick the system was and just how bad the

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Speaker 1: decisions were. Well, I mean, this is a problem that

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Speaker 1: we have I called selective moral outrage. A few quick examples. One, Well,

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Speaker 1: Democrats claim that they care about collusion or outside interference

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Speaker 1: in our electoral system. We currently have Ukraine willing to

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Speaker 1: admit with evidence of the DNC conspiring with Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: officials in a case where they were trying to influence

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election in favor of Hillary. We know

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Speaker 1: that Hillary paid for hiring a foreign agent with funneled money,

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Speaker 1: a Russian dossier that was disseminated to the press the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, David Corn Michael Izakoff for the means of

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Speaker 1: impacting the twenty sixteen election, but even more sinister and

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Speaker 1: importantly denying an American citizen, Carter Page his constitutional rights.

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Speaker 1: But it also gave them a backdoor into all things

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign. Yes, real spying occurred, it was never verified.

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Speaker 1: We now know there were multiple warnings going back to

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Speaker 1: as early as August to twenty sixteen, that they knew

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Speaker 1: Hillary paid for the dirty they knew it was unverified

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Speaker 1: and uncorroborated, and they also knew Christopher Steel hated Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Now that to me would be far more important and

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00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: far closer to Muller's original mandate to investigate than a

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Speaker 1: FARA violation or a loan application or a taxi medallion

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Speaker 1: financial issue. Well, that's right, And then look, I think

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Speaker 1: if you were to, there's a case to be made.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think this is as

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Speaker 1: important from the short run, but there is a case

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Speaker 1: to be made at some point for looking at the

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Speaker 1: totality of the Mueller investigation. I mean, I still can't

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Speaker 1: believe that he got away with putting Americans into solitary

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Speaker 1: confinement for as long as he did, which was clearly

635
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Speaker 1: a mental health problem. The Russian woman he was trying

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Speaker 1: to break actually served over half of her total prison

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Speaker 1: time in solitary confinement. Now, I mean, I think in

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00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: that sense there's a whole question of the entire Miller investigation,

639
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: but I think it's currently so tainted by the fight

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Speaker 1: over President Trump. I'd like to let it go for

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Speaker 1: a little while and focus back on what I think

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00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: was the real story in twenty sixteen, and that was

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Speaker 1: the methodical protection of Hillary Clinton. And I see the

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Speaker 1: dossier as a part of the Clinton campaign. I think

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Speaker 1: all these things are wrapped together in a desperate effort

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Speaker 1: to win the presidency and to protect her from herself

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Speaker 1: and luckily for the country's future. They fell, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't know more about them. They say they care about

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Speaker 1: collusion outside influence, but they didn't care about the dirty dossier.

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Speaker 1: They say they care about obstruction, But here we have

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, clear overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence that she had top

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Speaker 1: secret classified information on a server, violation of eighteen USC.

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Speaker 1: Seven ninety three, the Espionage Act. And then, of course

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Speaker 1: the real obstruction, so peanut emails, deleted, acid washing, a

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Speaker 1: hard drive with bleach pit, busting up devices with hammers,

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Speaker 1: removing simcards that would seem to be the intention would

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Speaker 1: be to literally eliminate all the evidence of the underlying crime.

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Speaker 1: Nobody talks about that. The same people that scream just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they might care about allegations of sexual assault with a

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Speaker 1: high school student named Kavanaugh, but not a Virginia lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear any of the eye believers talking about

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Speaker 1: the allegations of rape and violent sexual assault in his case. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, hey, you're right, there is this

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Speaker 1: whole problem of selective outrage, and if you're a conservative,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get beaten up, and if you're a

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Speaker 1: liberal you're going to get protected. But beyond that, I

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Speaker 1: think that the country deserves to know the facts. I

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Speaker 1: think that there is an immense amount to be learned.

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Speaker 1: And I think that if the Attorney General follows through

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Speaker 1: as I hope you will, I think done the next

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Speaker 1: four or five months, we're just going to learn an

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Speaker 1: immense amount that's gonna repaint the story of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen in some ways. It will really really be

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Speaker 1: startling for most Americans. Gotta take a quick break, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back. New Gingrich is with US eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine for one. Sean told free telephone number. By the way,

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Speaker 1: his best selling book is on the market, ripped right

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Speaker 1: out of the headlines. It's called Collusion. Amazon dot com,

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Speaker 1: Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. All right, mister speaker, we've

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Speaker 1: got a call for you. I think this is fairly entertaining.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna want to hear this. Tom in California. Hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: you're on the Sean Hannity Show with speaker gang Rich.

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Speaker 1: How are you. Oh? I'm doing great, Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: It had a quick nickname for New I like your

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Speaker 1: nicknames is America's Prime Minister, just because of a sense

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Speaker 1: of history and just how patriotic he is, kind of

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Speaker 1: kind of like America's Churchill. Well, that's a very nice compliment,

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Speaker 1: and I'll take it. Well. I can let me add

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Speaker 1: one thing new. Gang Rich is an intellectual force of nature.

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Speaker 1: He is a educator, He's a professor at heart. He

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Speaker 1: is a historian, and he loves his country, and he

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Speaker 1: knows and understands the things that matter most. And this

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Speaker 1: is why, mister speaker, this is so important. It's about

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Speaker 1: the rule of law, equal justice under the law, equal

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Speaker 1: application of our laws, and not allowing a few deep state,

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Speaker 1: arrogant bureaucrats to undermine an election because they think we're

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Speaker 1: Smellie Walmart voters that like Donald Trump. Well, look, I

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Speaker 1: think it is unbelievably important. I hope every listener understands

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Speaker 1: that we were at a turning point in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and we now know that if Hillary Clinton had won,

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Speaker 1: that the corruption would have sunk deeper, that the bad

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Speaker 1: guys would have gotten promoted and protected, and that we

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Speaker 1: would rapidly have ceased to be the country that the

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Speaker 1: founding fathers created. And I think what Miller said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it was such a startling contradiction to the very essence

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Speaker 1: of America, because the essence of America is not you know,

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Speaker 1: he sounded frankly like he was in Russia or Venezuela

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Speaker 1: or somewhere. You know, in those kind of countries, the

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Speaker 1: government decides whether you're innocent or guilty. Yep. And you

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Speaker 1: know you don't get to decide. The government decides. But

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Speaker 1: in America you're endowed by your creator. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what rights. Do you have something to do? Or you

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Speaker 1: want to stick around and maybe we'll take some calls

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Speaker 1: in the next half hour. I'll be glad to take

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Speaker 1: some calls. All right, quick break, we'll come back, Former

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, New King Rich. We got an

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Speaker 1: amazing Hannity tonight at nine. I'll tell you about that

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Speaker 1: and more as we continue at twenty five. Now till

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Toll free telephone numbers eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and nine four one Sean. If you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of this extravaganza. What I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: mister Speaker is, you know when Lindsey Graham was questioning

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General bar about Muller, do you share my

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Speaker 1: concerns about the FISA warrant process? Yes? Do you share

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Speaker 1: my concern earns about the counterintelligence investigation, how it was

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Speaker 1: opened and why it was opened. Yes. You share my

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Speaker 1: concerns that the professional, lack of professionalism and the Clinton

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Speaker 1: email investigation something we should all look at. Yes. Do

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Speaker 1: you expect to change your mind about the bottom line

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Speaker 1: conclusions of the Mueller report? No? Do you know Bob Muller? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Do you trust him? Yes? How long have you known him?

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Speaker 1: Thirty years roughly? Do you think he had time he needed? Yes?

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Speaker 1: You think he had the money he needed? Yes? You

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Speaker 1: think he had the resources he needed? Yes. Do you

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Speaker 1: think he did a thorough job? Yes? And I think

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Speaker 1: he feels he did a thorough job and had adequate

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Speaker 1: evidence to make the calls. Do you think the president's

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Speaker 1: campaign in twenty sixteen was thoroughly looked at in terms

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Speaker 1: of whether or not they colluded with the Russians? Yes,

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Speaker 1: and the answer is no. According to Bob Muller, that's right.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't decide about obstruction. You did. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: That's right? You feel good about your decision, absolutely, mister speaker.

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Speaker 1: Let me interpret the way I hear that the Mueller

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Speaker 1: issue is over. But this Attorney general the things that

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Speaker 1: I have and others have been discussing now and literally

746
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Speaker 1: unpeeling the layers of the onions for two years are

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Speaker 1: now front and center, and that would be Yes, in fact,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's email investigation and the server, she did violate

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Speaker 1: the law and she did obstruct justice. The evidence is incontrovertible. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's concerned about that. Yes, he's concerned about a dirty

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Speaker 1: Russian dossier that Hillary paid for with funneled money through

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Speaker 1: a law firm to an research firm to a foreign

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Speaker 1: national that was we now know unverifiable because its own

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Speaker 1: author says he has no idea if any of it

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Speaker 1: is true. The FISA abuse by omission Lyne not telling

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Speaker 1: the FISA judges and the application that in fact Hillary

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Speaker 1: paid for it. And then further at the top of

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Speaker 1: a FISA application it says verified, but nobody verified anything,

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Speaker 1: and they used it as an effort to spine an

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Speaker 1: opposition party candidate and spread disinformation. Now the act too

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Speaker 1: begins and the curtain rises on what is the biggest

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Speaker 1: abuse of power scandal in history? Well, look what I

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Speaker 1: was really struck with in that exchange, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was really fascinating, and I thought that Lindsey Graham did

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Speaker 1: a great job of setting that whole thing up. I

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Speaker 1: really for the first time understood how deeply frustrated Trump

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Speaker 1: must be because imagine that Barr had gone in as

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Speaker 1: his attorney general on day one. What a different world

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Speaker 1: we'd be in because Bar gets it. I mean, Barr

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Speaker 1: understands that in the real world that we faced a

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Speaker 1: really sick establishment doing some things that were really profoundly wrong,

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Speaker 1: and that that needs to be fixed, and that he's

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Speaker 1: going to fix it. And if we'd had that kind

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Speaker 1: of an independent, hard nosed attorney general from day one,

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Speaker 1: we would just be in a totally different place. Now,

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Speaker 1: what do you make now that we know we have

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Speaker 1: identified and now the President as of last week, has

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Speaker 1: approved the declassification of the FISA applications, the three O

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Speaker 1: two conversations, Gang of eight information exculpatory evidence that was

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Speaker 1: withheld on purpose in specific cases. And then you look

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Speaker 1: at okay, well, they literally rigged an investigation for the

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Speaker 1: favored candidate that Struck himself said should win a hundred

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Speaker 1: million to zero because Trump is lowesome, and if he

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Speaker 1: does win, don't worry. We have an insurance policy to

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Speaker 1: take him out, which we now know was the Russian dossier.

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Speaker 1: But they rigged an investigation, then they lied to a

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Speaker 1: PISA Corp. Premeditated lies because they were warned all of

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Speaker 1: them in August to twenty sixteen by Bruce Orr. They

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Speaker 1: were warned two weeks before the first vis application by

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Speaker 1: a State Department person Kathleen Cavalac, who met with Christopher

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Speaker 1: Steele who was in a panic because he had a

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Speaker 1: deadline of election day, and others warned as well. But

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Speaker 1: they did in any way, that's premeditated fraud against the court.

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Speaker 1: What would happen if I did that, Well, I think

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Speaker 1: right now you'd probably be in deep trouble. But have

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Speaker 1: you'd been one of the Chosen Gang, you could have

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Speaker 1: done all that and gotten away with it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the point I was making a minute of If

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Speaker 1: Hillary had won, none of this would have come out.

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Speaker 1: These guys were all protected, they were all counting on

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Speaker 1: her winning, they were all confident that that was going

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Speaker 1: to happen. And the result was that they were basically

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Speaker 1: violating the core rules of the United States and doing

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Speaker 1: things that can only be classed as corrupt. And I

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Speaker 1: think that to suggest anything else it makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also as you know, I write novels such

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Speaker 1: as Collusion, and I was a historian one time. So

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Speaker 1: I approached these things and I try to ask myself, what,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's the real big story. Well, the real

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Speaker 1: big story here is pretty straightforward. The real big story

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Speaker 1: is a group of people did some really bad things.

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Speaker 1: That group of people happened to be at the very

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Speaker 1: top of the United States government. It is certain that

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General was part of it. It's very possible

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Speaker 1: on all the way into the Obama White House. And

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Speaker 1: it's very possible that some of the things we're going

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Speaker 1: to learn in the next few months are going to

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Speaker 1: come right back and lead to the question of whether

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Speaker 1: or not Joe Biden knew anything. But his defense, of course,

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Speaker 1: is that he knew nothing, had learned nothing, and remembers nothing.

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Speaker 1: So Biden might be able to skate. But I do

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Speaker 1: think this thing. I don't see how this could have

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Speaker 1: happened without people above this group knowing something serious was

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Speaker 1: going on. What does it mean if we don't hit

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Speaker 1: this right, Because what you're really describing is this situation

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Speaker 1: where the favored candidate is not prosecuted because that candidate

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Speaker 1: is the chosen one, and then the other candidate. You

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Speaker 1: literally are using lies, disinformation, phony uncorroborated, verified dossier's they're

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Speaker 1: spying on the Trump campaign in a multitude of ways.

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Speaker 1: You got Stefan Helper, Well, he's buying on Carter Page

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Speaker 1: and Papadopolis and Sam Clovis and we even have you know,

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Speaker 1: ripped out of a novel, a blonde bombshell flirting with

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Speaker 1: Papadopolis to get information. Does he know anything about the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign colluding with Russia and then the FBI and

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Speaker 1: especially Callmy says, well, we don't spy. Sounds like spying

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Speaker 1: to me. Well, look what you have to start with

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Speaker 1: camy as understanding. Do you have no idea whether anything

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Speaker 1: he says is true? I mean, the guy doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: to have a compass of any kind and has has

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Speaker 1: said all sorts of contradictory things, has done things who

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Speaker 1: were clearly totally wrong, And I thought it was fascinating.

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Speaker 1: The Dershowitz, in his analysis of what Muller did yesterday,

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Speaker 1: said that as bad as Komy was when he went

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Speaker 1: to the whole press conference about Hillary, that what Muller

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Speaker 1: did yesterday was even worse. So he got these guys

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Speaker 1: who have some really bad habits and who are really

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Speaker 1: arrogant and who for some reason think that they have

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Speaker 1: the right to define innocence and guilt when in our

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Speaker 1: system that's reserved to a judge in a jury, not

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Speaker 1: to a prosecutor. All right, let's go to our phones.

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Speaker 1: New king Rich has agreed to stay with us. Take

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Speaker 1: a couple of calls. Here, Alan is in the great

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio, Alan High, how are you? And say

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Speaker 1: hello to former Speaker of the House, New king Rich. Hello, John, Hello,

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Speaker 1: mister speaker. It's an or to speak with both of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sean. In regard to Robert Mullard's news conference yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's very obvious he's a deep, deep state operative, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need to absolutely flood Center Lynday

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Speaker 1: Graham's office with calls and emails to subpoena him to

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Speaker 1: come up and answer to Congress for this travesty that

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Speaker 1: he's perpetuated for two years. I think he should. I

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Speaker 1: want him to testify. I think Muller's scared to death.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the noise is, mister speaker. I

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Speaker 1: think he's scared to death to answer questions from Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan about the team he picked, about the decisions he

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Speaker 1: made about ignoring the dirty Russian dossier meanwhile getting you know,

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Speaker 1: distracted on issues such as Farah and taxi medallions. I

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Speaker 1: think he has a very he would have a very

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Speaker 1: difficult task, and I suspect that Jerry Nadler and company

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Speaker 1: will protect him. Well, look, I think, I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you come down to it, it's a situation where he

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Speaker 1: can't he would shrink every hour he was there is

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Speaker 1: a witness because once you start asking these questions, there

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Speaker 1: are no good answers. I mean, just to question, how

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Speaker 1: could you have picked all left wing Democrat lawyers and

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Speaker 1: had nobody who was for Trump on your legal team.

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Speaker 1: And the question you raised earlier, which I think is

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Speaker 1: the most fascinating, which is when did you reach this

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Speaker 1: conclusion that there, in fact had been no Russian collusion

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Speaker 1: by the president And why would you not have told

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Speaker 1: that to the country in order to clear the President

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Speaker 1: of States as he travels around the world from this

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Speaker 1: thing hanging over his head. Well before his clarification yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the nine and a half minutes he spoke, all he

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Speaker 1: did was leave a cloud of suspicion, and then it

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Speaker 1: took the cleaning up by the attorney General his office

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Speaker 1: together to say no, no no, no, we didn't mean what

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Speaker 1: we said for nine minutes, this is what we really meant.

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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with any Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: policy that would prohibit the indictment of a sitting president.

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Speaker 1: That was not the basis of the decision, which he

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Speaker 1: had said multiple times before. But that's the whole point.

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Speaker 1: I don't because if I understood it correctly, he actually

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Speaker 1: read that statement. He did, But I think he did.

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Speaker 1: I mean, which means that well, I mean, and which

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Speaker 1: means he sat and he sat down somewhere and he

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Speaker 1: wrote out a statement that he didn't mean, which he

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Speaker 1: read and then had to come up. She's now cleaning

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Speaker 1: up the statement, which was designed to clean up the

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Speaker 1: four hundred and forty eight page report. Yep. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a point here where it becomes an absurdity.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think having him testify might be dangerous,

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Speaker 1: because you have no idea where he's going to wander

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Speaker 1: off to. Oh, I think he I think he will

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Speaker 1: not have satisfactory answers to many of the questions were raising,

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Speaker 1: like you couldn't find one Republican. You really had to

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Speaker 1: hire Hillary Clinton's attorney. You had to hire the guy

908
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Speaker 1: with that Sidney Powell writes about that withheld exculpatory evidence

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Speaker 1: as your pit bull, the guy that was at Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton's victory party. You know it's uh, Frank, I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to the point I keep raising, which

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Speaker 1: I'm just astonished has not had much deeper impact, and

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Speaker 1: that is this whole question of putting people into solitary

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Speaker 1: confinement when they have not been convicted of anything. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, we know what Judge Ellis said. We know

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Speaker 1: this isn't about taxes. We know this is about putting

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Speaker 1: the screws to Manifort and the hopes that he sings

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Speaker 1: or composes for the purpose of getting to the president.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was always about. Right, But that strikes

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Speaker 1: me just when you say it, that has a chilling

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Speaker 1: effect to me, because because it suggests that we should

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Speaker 1: somehow be comfortable that this is the opposite of the

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Speaker 1: rule of law. The whole point is the end can't

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Speaker 1: justify the means, not under the rule of law. All right,

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Speaker 1: quick break more with the former Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 1: New King Ridge's new book Collusion in bookstores everywhere. Right,

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Speaker 1: as we continue, k New King Ridge is with us.

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Speaker 1: A brand new book is out Amazon dot com, Hannity

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Speaker 1: dot com, bookstores anywhere. Uh ripped from the headlines called Collusion.

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Speaker 1: Let me go to your wife's home state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Attila Is has an important question. Attila, You're on with

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Speaker 1: the New King Rich on the Sean Hannity Show. Hello, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Great greetings from Kiwani. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you Sean for diligently presenting the facts. Thank you

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Speaker 1: and your team and Newt you said you're you're a historian.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're there to present the facts so liberals

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Speaker 1: aren't rewriting history. But um, do you think, Sean, gentlemen, uh,

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Speaker 1: that this the classification order? Do you think it's going

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Speaker 1: to stand? Or is President Trump going to be rescinding it? Again?

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Speaker 1: That nervous, not even close. It's not a matter anymore.

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Speaker 1: If the question is no longer, if it's when this

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Speaker 1: information becomes available, it is not a question anymore. And

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Speaker 1: remember you do have the Inspector General investigation, you have

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Speaker 1: the Durham investigation, the Ober investigation, and the Bar investigation.

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Speaker 1: So it will all be brought together at a time.

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Speaker 1: And I think it will collectively blow the minds of

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Speaker 1: the American people about how deep this went in terms

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Speaker 1: of corruption and abuse of power. Mister speaker, I agree

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Speaker 1: with it. I think that first of all, the presidents

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Speaker 1: put himself in a pretty good position. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do anything. He has delegated to Attorney General Bar.

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Speaker 1: He trusts the Bar. I am confident that Bars very

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Speaker 1: methodically working this because that's the kind of lawyer he is.

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Speaker 1: And Bars, I think he proved now for the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks as fearless, so he's going to grind forward.

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Speaker 1: Things are going to come out. Sean's exactly right. Things

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Speaker 1: are going to come out which are gonna stun people

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Speaker 1: and shock people because really bad stuff was done. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the country needs to learn and what

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Speaker 1: really did happen? And I think we now have an

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Speaker 1: attorney general that's the courage to help the country learn that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Speaker of the House, New king Ridge. By

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Speaker 1: the way, his new book is called Collusion, ripped from

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Speaker 1: Today's Headlines, and it is on Amazon dot com, Hannity

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Speaker 1: dot com, bookstores anywhere. Mister speaker, we always love having you,

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Speaker 1: especially these days. You can stay longer. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Talk to you soon. Stay right

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Speaker 1: here for our final news round up and information overload.

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Speaker 1: We seem to be moving toward a place where impeachment

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Speaker 1: may be inevitable. The damn really seems to be breaking

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Speaker 1: wide open. The substruction point is also impossible to look

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Speaker 1: away from, because I think what he was really saying

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Speaker 1: is Congress has a job to do. They now have

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Speaker 1: the green light if they want it. From Muller's statement

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Speaker 1: that it's the ball is in their court and now

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Speaker 1: they've got to pick it up and run with it

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Speaker 1: and do the right thing. A democratic controlled Congress, we'll

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Speaker 1: have no choice but to open an impeachment inquiry into

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Speaker 1: President Trump. Every single day that the president sits in

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Speaker 1: that office, he's obstructing justice, right because if if he's

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Speaker 1: spoken plain language, what he would have said today was

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Speaker 1: anyone who read my report and said no collusion, no obstruction,

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Speaker 1: total exoneration is a big fat liar. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: he would have said. In English, No lawyer, my body

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Speaker 1: mouth here. The army restrained. And in this case, she

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Speaker 1: knows that she gets one shot at this if she

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Speaker 1: blows it and they don't get him impeached in the House,

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Speaker 1: they won't get him in the Senate, which is also

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Speaker 1: a huge factor here. If they don't do the thing

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Speaker 1: correctly in the in the House, they never get to

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Speaker 1: go after him again. On me. This so the train

992
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Speaker 1: whistles blowing, and Pelosi has got to make a decision.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the tough question for her. It's

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Speaker 1: always been are you willing to say no to impeacement?

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Speaker 1: And I think it's tilly up in there what she's

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Speaker 1: going to do. I am gravely disappointed in the Justice

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Speaker 1: Department for their attitude, of their misrepresentation and the Muller

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Speaker 1: report to begin with, their hiding behind something that you

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Speaker 1: could never find in the Constitution, that the president is

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Speaker 1: above the law, and their misrepresentations. Even under oath, the

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Speaker 1: Constitution points to Congress to take action to hold the

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Speaker 1: president accountable for his misconduct. Unfortunately, Special Counsel Mulla was

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Speaker 1: unable to pursue criminal charges against the President because Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice policy prevents a sitting president from being prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: That policy, in my opinion, is wrong, but it prevented

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Speaker 1: the Special Counsel from pursuing justice to the fullest extent possible. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: as Mueller again highlighted this morning, it falls to Congress

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Speaker 1: to respond to the crimes, lies, and other wrongdoing of

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Speaker 1: President Trump. We will do so. Make no mistake, No one,

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Speaker 1: not even the President of the United States, is above

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Speaker 1: the law. All right. That's Jerry Ndler. Couldn't be more

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Speaker 1: wrong on the facts. You know what's so amazing in

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Speaker 1: this And by the way, glad you would this news

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Speaker 1: round up information overload our Sean Hannity Show. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: nine four one. Shaun is a number, you know. So

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Speaker 1: Mueller does his little nine and a half minute thing,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, the media

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Speaker 1: goes to, wow, We've got new life into our fantasy

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Speaker 1: of impeachment and conspiracy. Now, of course there is this

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Speaker 1: Russian dossier. They don't care about that. There is an

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Speaker 1: underlying crime of the Espionage Act and collusion with Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about that. They don't care about obstruction.

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Speaker 1: When you have an underlying crime and the intent of

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Speaker 1: taking subpoened emails and deleting them and bleach bit clean

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Speaker 1: your hard drive and bust up your devices and pull

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Speaker 1: out your sim cards, why the intent is obvious to

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Speaker 1: destroy the evidence so none of that matters. It only matters.

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Speaker 1: It's if it's Trump. You know, if Justice Kavanaugh is

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Speaker 1: accused in high school of just about every other weekend

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Speaker 1: spiking the punch and having girls drugged and wasted and

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Speaker 1: put in rooms and boys lining up in halls, and

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Speaker 1: they are systematically, on a regular, every other weekend basis

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Speaker 1: involved in the gang rape of young teenage girls, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna believe that. And everyone's gonna say, I believe, but no,

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Speaker 1: I believers with the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia it is

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Speaker 1: all a lie. They care about Russian interference. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: care about Russian interference. If they did, Muller wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: looking at Farah violations, taxiat medallions, tax issues, loan applications.

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Speaker 1: He might have looked at Hillary's dirty dossier bought and

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Speaker 1: paid for by her and using a foreign national to

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Speaker 1: build it. We now know it's full of lies and

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Speaker 1: its author doesn't stand behind the document. Maybe they would

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Speaker 1: have paid attention to that. And just like well, after

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Speaker 1: this big bruhaha yesterday, you look at what Muller does. Well,

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Speaker 1: he ends up backtracking as you have the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice Muller's office releasing a joint statement to clarify the remarks.

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Speaker 1: You know, so, despite of this bizarre interpretation and insinuation

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Speaker 1: that maybe Muller was planning on working and morphing the

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Speaker 1: rule of law, yesterday, one thing was clear. He didn't

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Speaker 1: want to go to war with Attorney General bar because

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Speaker 1: there are over three witnesses that heard Mueller say just

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Speaker 1: the opposite of what he said. And then when you

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Speaker 1: look a little bit further and dig a little bit deeper,

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Speaker 1: the media, in spite of their breathless, hysterical reporting and

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Speaker 1: takeaway and foaming at the mouth, it appears and it

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Speaker 1: looks as if Bill Barr called Muller out on what

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Speaker 1: was a contradictory statement that he made in front of

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Speaker 1: many others on multiple occasions, at least three occasions, and

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, they have to release a

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Speaker 1: joint statement. Oopsie Daisy the Attorney General. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Kerry Kupec is a spokesman for the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: Peter Carr, spokesperson for the Special Counsel's Office. After the

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Speaker 1: Mueller debacle, the Attorney General has previously stated that the

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Speaker 1: Special Counsel repeatedly, repeatedly. That means again and again and

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Speaker 1: again and again affirm that he was not saying that

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Speaker 1: but for the Office of Legal Council opinion, he would

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Speaker 1: have found the president obstructive justice. The Special Counsel's report

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Speaker 1: and his statement today made clear that the Office concluded

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Speaker 1: it would not reach a determination one way or the

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Speaker 1: other about whether the President committed a crime. There's no

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Speaker 1: conflict between these statements, you know, if you look at

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Speaker 1: that analysis, you know, and everything in between here is

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Speaker 1: Mueller basically is admitting that he never had the authority

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Speaker 1: to conclude, but he did could have anyway. Joining us.

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Speaker 1: Now we have Danielle McLaughlin and Jonathan Gillimer with us. Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing that they ignored the joint statement clarification of

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Speaker 1: Mueller's statements because of the three witnesses that said, well,

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Speaker 1: hang on, Muller didn't say that in the past. He

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Speaker 1: said just the opposite. Well, then, Sean, they're not interested.

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Speaker 1: They've shown this over and over again. They're not interested

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Speaker 1: in totality of the facts. They're not interested in statements

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Speaker 1: that don't affirm the truth. They're only interested in statements

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Speaker 1: that affirm what they believe. And I think you know

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Speaker 1: when you I just re listened before I came on,

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Speaker 1: just re listened to Mueller's statement, and one thing really

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Speaker 1: stuck out in particular. Out of all the jargon that

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Speaker 1: he says this way or that way, one thing that

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Speaker 1: he particularly says is that based on the fairness doctrine,

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Speaker 1: they could not charge somebody with a crime that could

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Speaker 1: not be proven in a court of law. Well, that

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Speaker 1: means that it did not happen. They don't have evidence.

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Speaker 1: There's not evidence to prove that in a court of law. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and it would have been nothing to

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Speaker 1: stop Robert Mueller from saying that he believes the threshold

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Speaker 1: in terms of a crime being committed, he believes was committed.

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Speaker 1: He could have said all of that, of course, and

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Speaker 1: that's what makes no sense. He leads everybody down this

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Speaker 1: road in these statements. I think for pure political reasons.

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Speaker 1: He leads these people down this road, having them have

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Speaker 1: the hope that there's something there, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: people on the left, is hope that something is there

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Speaker 1: that he just can't talk about because he can't charge

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Speaker 1: us president. But then he says this one little thing

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Speaker 1: that based on fairness. He could not charge somebody where

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Speaker 1: they could not prove a crime in a court of law.

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Speaker 1: That means that there was no crime. Well, and they

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Speaker 1: have no evidence for a crime. Hey, Danielle, you know

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Speaker 1: when the Attorney general, Remember we had the Independent Council

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Speaker 1: statute because people, and we got rid of it because

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Speaker 1: of people like Gerald Nadler. Gerald Nadler did not want

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Speaker 1: the Star report released. Starr was doing his job at

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Speaker 1: the time. In the eleven you literally had eleven specific

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Speaker 1: crimes laid out by then Independent Council Ken Starr that

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Speaker 1: were committed by then President Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: ended up paying nearly a million dollars, he lost his

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Speaker 1: law license, and he was impeached. Very specific. There's no

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Speaker 1: such thing in the Muller Report, nothing that comes near

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Speaker 1: to this. And you add to the fact that there's

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Speaker 1: no underlying crime and the fact that the President complained

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Speaker 1: loudly that he was innocent and complained that this was

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: a witch hunt, is hardly any obstruction. When he allowed

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Speaker 1: everybody that worked for him, including the White House Council,

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Speaker 1: to testify, one point five million documents are handed over.

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Speaker 1: He answered questions, you can't cooperate anymore. An, he never

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Speaker 1: ever used the executive privilege, not one time. Now, you're right, Sean,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be back with you. And of course, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ken Star and Robert Muller were operating under

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Speaker 1: different statutes, as you indicated. So the Star report, You're right,

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Speaker 1: Madler worked really hard to make that public, and actually,

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Speaker 1: even under Special Counsel regulations, it was meant to be confidential,

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Speaker 1: and it was actually the Attorney General who had the

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Speaker 1: power to make it public or not. And I know

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of upset about the fact that

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Speaker 1: it was public, almost like the Clinton incident where James

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Speaker 1: Comey came out and said she did all these things

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Speaker 1: that we've decided not to prosecute. Here, the difference is

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Speaker 1: that the Special Council was required to write report, obviously

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Speaker 1: required to investigate, but he was also required to make

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Speaker 1: a decision about whether they would prosecute or not and

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Speaker 1: explain why. And that's why we have all the information

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Speaker 1: out there in the public. Speed a fight over, I

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Speaker 1: guess there's no fight though. All right, quick break, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back on the other side. Danielle McLaughlin and Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gilham as we continue your calls at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the half hour and amazing Hannity tonight, nine Eastern right,

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Speaker 1: as we continue, Danielle McLaughlin and Jonathan Gillimer with us.

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Speaker 1: Because number one, there's no one in the lying crime.

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Speaker 1: We've had four separate determinations. The FBI doesn't matter. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It matters

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Speaker 1: because the whole purpose of the appointment of the Special

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Speaker 1: Council was to look into Russian influence in the twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen election. Now if you disagree with you, okay, So

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Speaker 1: they looked into it. The FBI did a nine month investigation,

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Speaker 1: the House Intel Committee did an investigation, the bipartisan Senate

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Speaker 1: Committee did an investigation, and Mueller couldn't be more clear

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Speaker 1: that there was no collusion. No, I totally agree with you, Sean.

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Speaker 1: But my point is that you can't have an obstruction

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: of justice prosecution without an underlying crime. That is, there

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: are correct and instances of that and the law. But

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Speaker 1: I will agree, yes he did. But like for example,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, now that we know it's incontrovertible evidence she

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Speaker 1: had top secret classified information on the private server, that

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Speaker 1: is a clear violation of eighteen USC. Seven ninety three

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Speaker 1: the Espionage Act. And then we look at the obstruction

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Speaker 1: aspect of Hillary Clinton. Then okay, she's subpoenaed thirty three

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Speaker 1: thousand emails, she deletes them, acid washed the hard drive

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Speaker 1: with bleach, pit, bus up devices with hammers, remove sim cards. Well,

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Speaker 1: that would be destroying the evidence and obstruction a classic case,

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Speaker 1: a slam dunk case, isn't it. So instruction requires a

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Speaker 1: showing of intent. And what other intent would there be

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Speaker 1: to destroy the hard drive and bust up devices and

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Speaker 1: a race, you know, clean the hard drive. Well, she said,

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Speaker 1: with the FBI, there is a three or two. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're ever going to get it. But she

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01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: explained why that was done. And I also, I want

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Speaker 1: to correct the record because we spoke recently, and I

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Speaker 1: see that those documents were not under subpoena, and I

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Speaker 1: was wrong. They were under subpoena, and they were, as

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Speaker 1: you know, bleach bitted by somebody in Colorado. And you

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Speaker 1: could say, and Hannity's been right the whole time, Go ahead,

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: you can finish the sentence. Hannity was right the whole time.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: when I'm wrong, Well, Okay, you were wrong, But was

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Speaker 1: I right? Um? What did you say that it was

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Speaker 1: on a subpoena? Yes, you were right, they were on

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Speaker 1: a subpoena. All right, Jonathan, this is a historic day

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Speaker 1: with Danielle McGlocklin. Let's let's cherish the moment. I feltre

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: a movement by saying that daniel is also wrong about

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Speaker 1: one other thing, and that is when we talk about obstruction.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about when there's an investigation going forward where

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: they are seeking evidence for a crime and someone gets

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Speaker 1: in the way of that investigation from going forward. That substruction.

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Speaker 1: But when an individual, and let's say an investigation is

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: based upon false evidence that is made known that it

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: is false, that individual no longer has a requirement to

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Speaker 1: follow the investigative leads of this whatever investigative party is

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Speaker 1: carrying out the investigation, because at that point it should

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Speaker 1: be in a court of law, it should be dismissed.

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Speaker 1: And so what with all right, final thoughts go ahead, Danielle.

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Speaker 1: The obstruction statute is clear about you can obstruct an

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: investigation which may go nowhere or a proceeding. So you

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: could you could possibly obstruct something that has actually gone

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01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: to court. But if there was an investigation, even it

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere. The statute doesn't talk about false evidence,

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Speaker 1: even if it were here, which I don't think it was.

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Speaker 1: But you can obstruct just an investigation, even if it

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Speaker 1: goes nowhere under the fieldal statute. All right, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have to end it there. Danielle McLaughlin and Jonathan Gilham,

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Speaker 1: thank you both for being Will of us appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: And this is a historic day. Danielle admitting Hannity was right.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for fake news CNN and conspiracy TV

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Speaker 1: MSNBC to say those words. But I guess how will

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Speaker 1: freeze over before that happens. Last year, I heard through

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: friends the story of Alice Johnson. I was deeply moved.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety seven, Alice was sentenced to life in

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Speaker 1: prison as a first time non violent drug offender. In June,

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Speaker 1: I commuted Alice's sense. When I saw Alice's beautiful family

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Speaker 1: greet her at the prison gates, hugging and kissing and

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: crying and laughing, I knew I did something right. Alice

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Speaker 1: is with us tonight, and she is a terrific woman.

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Speaker 1: Terrific Alice. Please, Alice, thank you for reminding us that

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Speaker 1: we always have the power to shape our own destiny.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Alice, thank you very much. The

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Speaker 1: only way that I was able to make it through

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Speaker 1: that time, and this is the truth, was my faith

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Speaker 1: in God. I knew that one day he was going

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Speaker 1: to bring me out, and I lived my life with

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Speaker 1: an eye toward one day walking out of those doors

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Speaker 1: a free woman. And the day that I got the

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Speaker 1: news at President Trump had granted my clemency and giving

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Speaker 1: me a second chance life was the best day of

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Speaker 1: my life. All right. That was President Trump as well

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Speaker 1: as Alice Marie Johnson. I will never forget this video

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Speaker 1: as long as I live, because a woman that spent

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Speaker 1: twenty plus years in prison running out into the arms

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Speaker 1: of her loving family. In large part it was a

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Speaker 1: one time drug offense, non violent offender, and she goes

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01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: to jail and becomes a rock star in terms of

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01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: not only changing her own life, but changing the lives

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Speaker 1: of so many other people while she was in prison.

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget what she said that day. She

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Speaker 1: thanked the President and then she thanked the country and

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: she said, and I promise I will never let you down.

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Speaker 1: And I thought one of the more most touching moments

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Speaker 1: I've ever witnessed. And my hope is is that we

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Speaker 1: find every Alice Marie Johnson that is in any prison

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Speaker 1: in America. I mean, we're not talking about Michael Ducacas

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: and you know revolving door weekend furloughs for people that

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Speaker 1: have violin backgrounds, but those that have perhaps been disproportionately

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Speaker 1: sentenced or harshly sentenced for one offense. Well, our good

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Speaker 1: friend Alice Marie Johnson is back with us. She's got

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Speaker 1: a brand new book that has just come out. It's

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 1: called Afterlife, My Journey from Incarceration of Freedom. The foreward

1254
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: is written by Kim Kardashian West and I had an

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01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to meet her, and she's more wonderful as a

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Speaker 1: human being in person. Alice Murray Johnson, welcome back. How

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Speaker 1: are you, Sean? I am fantastic. Today is my birthday

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Speaker 1: and I am celebrating my birthday as I remembering the

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Speaker 1: day that Kim went to the White House to meet

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Speaker 1: with the press. Adent. Happy, Happy birthday. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I watched the whole hour you did on Fox. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was unbelievably compelling and by the way you

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Speaker 1: and your family. You guys, really, I mean we could

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Speaker 1: have a band put together. I saw this singing in

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Speaker 1: the segment. It was really awesome. Your story. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is. So many people something horrible happens

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Speaker 1: to them. Man. And if you go to jail, how

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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,839
Speaker 1: many years were you in prison? I was in prison

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Speaker 1: twenty one years, seven months, and six days. And what

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Speaker 1: was your original sentence for My original sentence was for

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Speaker 1: drug conspiracy and it was a one time offense. Correct. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that was the first time I had ever been in

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Speaker 1: any type of trouble. I went in at forty one

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Speaker 1: shot well, and before then I had no criminal background whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: What was your ultimate sentence if Donald Trump had not intervened,

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: it was life plus twenty five years. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you can get twenty five years added to

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Speaker 1: life without the possibility of a role. I was told

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Speaker 1: that I would leave prison of a court. Well, when

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: you gone in prison, let's walk through that process from

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: day one until the day you got out. I got

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Speaker 1: to imagine you just think it's over. Life is over.

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01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: And how bad was it when your first went in,

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01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: When I first heard that door slam and that key

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Speaker 1: turn in the lock that not only locked me in,

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Speaker 1: but it locked my family out of my life. It

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01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: was devastating, really, but from them after that, I made

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Speaker 1: a decision, Sean, that I was going to live life

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Speaker 1: the best that I could while in prison and impact

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Speaker 1: my environment for good. That that became my purpose. At

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Speaker 1: what point did you make that decision? How long had

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: you been in prison before you made a conscious decision

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01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: I can't let this kill me and I've got to

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: have some purpose in my life and I'm gonna change.

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Speaker 1: How long into your sentence did you It was very quickly,

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Speaker 1: Very quickly. I made that decision when I realized that

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Speaker 1: this is where I am. I really, Sean, Honestly, I

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: cried out to the Lord and I asked him, if

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Speaker 1: you can use me, I'm available. Let me ask you this.

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01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Describe what got your arrested. Tell us the event that

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Speaker 1: led up to that. Yes, I lost my job. I

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: was a manager with FedEx. I lost my job of

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01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: ten years. After that, I lost my son doing this

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: whole time, but I became frantic with bill collectors calling.

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Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses, Sean, because what I did was wrong.

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01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: But really, when you I was in us my life

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: was spiraling out of control, and an author came to

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: me to be a part of a conspiracy to use

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01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: my phone to pass messages, actually to pass numbers, not

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: even messages. And that's how I became involved in what

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: would ultimately be the thing that they said would take

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Speaker 1: my life. Okay, so you got involved. You know these

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: are bad people like You're very smart. You knew this

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Speaker 1: was drug related, correct, Yes, I did, and I made

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Speaker 1: that bad decision, so I'm not making excuses for it,

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Speaker 1: but I certainly don't believe that that decision warranted a

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Speaker 1: life without the possibility of parole. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: And what was the ultimate thing? How did they catch you? Well,

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Speaker 1: they I just know that an arrest came down. They

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Speaker 1: caught someone else who became a cooperating, cooperating witness for them,

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01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: for them, and he actually was the one who was

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Speaker 1: involved that he was much more involved so witnesses. I

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: was offered a very low sentence, but other witnesses came

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Speaker 1: forward to try to get their codefendants who testified against me,

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: to lure their own sentences. The very people that I

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01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: can say that I worked for now said I was

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: their ball. Now, how you can I was the worst

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: boss in ever having never sold or used drugs. So

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a big thing that's wrong, this whole conspiracy

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01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: theory of being a net thrown out to be caught

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: up in something and charged with something that that is

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01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 1: not your role. And so you get this sentences, nightmare sentence.

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Speaker 1: You think your life's over, the door locks behind you

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01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: a lifetime. You think this is never going to end,

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: because in reality, it wasn't supposed to. It was not

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Speaker 1: supposed to. But you made a decision very early that okay,

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Speaker 1: I need to find a purpose for my life. And

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Speaker 1: this is where your faith comes into play. And yes,

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01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: what did you do from there to change your life?

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: Because you ended up changing the lives of many people

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: in prison, to the point where the warden of the

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01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: prison was advocating for you to get out. Yes she

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01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: was not only the one. The captain, my case manager,

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Speaker 1: other staff members, other inmates, other women were also writing

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Speaker 1: letters on my behalf, trying to bring me to the

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01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: attention of someone. They loved me so much. There I

1347
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: started writing incredible plays that were the biggest inmate participation

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Speaker 1: programs in prison. I started mentoring women. I set with

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: women who were dying. I worked with the first ever

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01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: Special Olympics for women who had physical and mental needs there.

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: And so not only did I do that, I started

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01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: writing for outside women's ministry. I became known as a

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01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: woman who was in prison that was right outside of prison.

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not calling myself the apostle Paul, but I was

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01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 1: writing letters to women for women's conferences to encourage them,

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Speaker 1: and I started getting letters from them actually me for prayer.

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01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: And how many Bible studies did you be a part

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01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: of while you were in prison? And how many did

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: you run? And how many people do you feel that

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: you were able to change their lives turn them around

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01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: and as a result they got off a bad road

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Speaker 1: they were on and change their hearts. Oh my goodness, Sean,

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: if I could put a number on that, because they

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: impact I was able to impact society, because these women

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Speaker 1: will be released that contrupt to their families, into their

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Speaker 1: community chiefs. I've received so many letters from family members

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Speaker 1: and from women who were telling me thanking me for

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Speaker 1: what I did in their life. So hundreds, maybe thousand.

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Speaker 1: I can't even put a number on it, because not

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Speaker 1: only did were their life impacted, but they went back out,

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Speaker 1: and they impacted the life of their families because who

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01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: was released back into the community was not the same

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01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: person who went in. You know, I understand that Barack

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01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: Obama released a lot of people and at some point

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01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: you were on the radar. What happened in that case.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could answer that too. I just know

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Speaker 1: that three times I was denied clemency, and there is

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01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: no explanation that is ever given as to why you

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01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: are denied. So you don't know what you did wrong,

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01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: what you need to do better, which things you know

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01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: which things that I left off of my petition. So

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01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 1: I knew that I was a very good candidate because

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01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 1: at the time I meant all of the criteria for

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01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: that project. I had twenty years I had. I walked

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Speaker 1: out of prison with a clear with a clear conduct.

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Speaker 1: Not only did I not have a criminal record, but

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Speaker 1: when I walked out of prison, I didn't have a

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: disciplinary record either. So I can't I don't know why

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01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: it was denied. Now, you met some other famous people

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: in the prison, including I, as I understand how Heidi

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01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: Flie was there better. Yes, I saw them. Did you

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01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 1: help them? No? I didn't really know them. I saw

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: them really from a distance. I mean, yes, I walked

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: the compound with them, but I didn't personally really really,

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I impacted their lives. Maybe they

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01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: came to some productions that I did while in prison,

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: and those are life changing for many, so I can't

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: personally say that I did. How did Kim Kardashian and

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: Kanye West get involved in your life? Well? I did

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01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: a I've been speaking via video at Yale University, New

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01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: York University, the University of Washington, see you how of

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01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: Google YouTube platforms, and I was asked to video op

1403
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: ed and it went viral, and someone tweeted it out

1404
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: to Kim, who she follows, and she tweeted out, this

1405
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: is so unfair. And she reached out to her personal attorney,

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01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: who tracked me down in prison, which wasn't too hard,

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01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: and told me that a wealthy and famous woman wanted

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: to help me and if I wanted that, I didn't

1409
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: have to think about it long shown it was a

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01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: quick I believe, so yes, And so from that time on,

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01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Kim got the ball rolling. They put together an incredible

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01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: team of four attorneys, and she started her quest. She

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01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: reached out to Ivanka Trump and then Ivanca presented it

1414
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to Jared. They called my group Team Alice, and so

1415
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: both Evaca and Jared became a members of Team Alice

1416
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: and their missions. They were on a rescue mission to

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01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: free me, and so they were able to get an

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: audience with the President himself. And Kim went on my

1419
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 1: birthday one year ago with one of the attorneys, Shawn Holly,

1420
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to have a personal meeting in the Oval Office. But Sean,

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Speaker 1: I want to say this, it wasn't just because Kim

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01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: was a celebrity. And of course Kanye got involved. He

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01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: knew of my case and he was incredible was his

1424
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: support of me. But Kim did not just present something

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01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: as a celebrity. I also had a worthy case to

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01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: present before the president. So it wasn't just a celebrity status.

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: You got to bring something before him. And I know

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01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: he had opposition from his own staff, some of his

1429
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 1: own staff members to granting my clemency. And I've been

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01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: determined that I will make the president proud for what

1431
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: he did, and I would represent this country well and

1432
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: make the people in this country who believed in me

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01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: proud of what I've been able to accomplish as a

1434
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: free woman. I saw in the interview you deal with Fox,

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: So you were asked the question, Mall, what percentage of

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01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: Alice Marie Johnson's or people like you that are turning

1437
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: their lives around or in prison? Because frankly, I think

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: that every Alice Murray Johnson needs to be discovered and

1439
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: found you and given release as you've been given it.

1440
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: But how many people have turned around in prison and

1441
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: nobody will ever know about them? Oh, there's so many.

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01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: I told her at least a third. But it's the number.

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: It's probably higher than that. People who have rehabilitated, who

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01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: pose no risk to society. Retroution is enough. So why

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01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: are they still there? Whose families are waiting for them,

1446
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: just as my family was waiting for me. Sean, It's unbelievable. Well,

1447
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: it's an honor to get to know you, and I'm

1448
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: so happy for you, and you are such an incredible

1449
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: role model for so many Alice Murray Johnson. She has

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01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: a brand new book out today or birthday. It's called

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01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: After Life, My Journey from Incarceration or Freedom Forward, written

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01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: by Kim Kardashian West, and it's I'm so happy for you.

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01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your family. You're an inspiration and

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01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: a far better person than i'd be. I'd be very

1455
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: bitter if I was in there for twenty years. God

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01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: bless you and all you do. We really appreciate chat.

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01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you too. Thank you for having me

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01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: on today. All right, Alis, Marie Johnson, thank you. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap things up at today. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: not your heart be troubled. Hannity Tonight, nine eastern on

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01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel. We got a great show, news

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: and information you will not get from your corrupt, lying,

1463
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory media. Tonight. Devin Newness, Rudy Juliani, Tom Finton,

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01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, Haraldo, Damn Bongino, Pam Bandi, and Emily Campano.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up tonight, nine eastern on Hannity. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you then, we'll see you back here tomorrow