1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we are 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: going to break down what we saw from day one 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: of Raven's mini camp, as well as what we heard 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: after practice from Lamar Jackson and DeAndre Hopkins. So, Garrett, 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the return of Lamar Jackson obviously was the headline today 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: back on the field after you know, he was here 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: at the beginning of OTA's but this is the first 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: time seeing him in a little bit. So you know, 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: obviously when he steps on the field, there's a different energy. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: There's just everything's a little bit different with Lamar. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, no doubt. I mean when he's on the field, the. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: Tempo, the pace, the energy, the excitement, like it's just 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: all elevated with him. 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: The expectations, right you, Lamar, if there's any incompletion, you 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: got Lamar just dang. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: You know, he practices hard. 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: He gets mad when things don't go right, and like 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: everybody else feels that, and so I think that when 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: he's out there, practice is just more fun to watch 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: with Lamar Jackson, to be honest with. 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: You, football is more fun to watch with Lamar Jackson's. 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 4: Exactly and so so I thought it was a solid 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: day from him. I think that, like I was interested 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 4: to see it seemed like two guys in particular, the 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 4: connection that he had with them. One was Mark Andrews, 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: which that's never going anywhere. That's like no secret there, 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: but also DeAndre Hopkins. I liked what I saw from 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: him getting Hopkins going in this offense and building that chemistry. 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: I think that's off to a really strong start. We 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: said the same thing coming out of the Ota practice 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: that we watched previously with Lamar and DeAndre Hopkins. I 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: thought today it was just another really nice step for 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 4: the two of them. 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: One to hear we heard from Lamar Jackson after practice 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: and hear him talk about DeAndre Hopkins, it was evident 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: how much he really likes that edition so far. And 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: Hopkins made a sliding kind of one armed cradle kind 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: of catch during practice today that was really impressive. And 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: there's another throw it's just like a short to the 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: sticks kind of move the sticks throw that was a 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: laser and you just heard that thing just pop into 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins his hands and. 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Just yeah, didn't adjust at all, no wiggle. 45 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's like those strong hands, like 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: you could he almost hear the strong hands on de 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Andandre Hopkins. 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: So it's cool to see those guys really hit it 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: off early. 50 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: That one catch that you referenced, the one handed sliding catch, 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: like that was a third down play in practice, and 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: that was right at the sticks to move the chains. 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: It was like a. 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: Four yard catch. But like, those are the types of 55 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: catches that I expect him to make this year. He'll 56 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: have some bigger catches than four yard gains over the middle, 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: no doubt. But like the critical third down tough catch, 58 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: one handed grab, that's what he's here for. That that's 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: the type of play that the Ravens are hoping he 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: can make, and that kept that drive alive and the 61 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: Raves ended up getting in the end zone on that 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: on that series. And so I just think that that 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: type of critical tough catch is an element that he's 64 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: going to add to this offense. And then even like 65 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 4: I just think it's good with Hopkins, he gives really 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: good work to this receiving cores like or this this 67 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: sorry this the secondary. There was at one point he 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: was matched up against Nate Waggins and he beat Wagans 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: off the line for completion. But like, that's great work 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: for Date Wagans to go up against DeAndre Hopkins and 71 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: one on one. 72 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: You're talking about like the slant. It was kind of 73 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: a strong It. 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: Wasn't like a big play, but it was just like, Okay, 75 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: you want to you want to go up against like 76 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: a veteran wide receiver who's got all these moves on Clemson. 77 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, good Clemson connection. 78 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: I just think that it's really good work for the 79 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: secondary to have a veteran like that, who's who's seen 80 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: it all done at all. 81 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I agree. 82 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: In the secondary had some moments of its own, including 83 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: I thought particularly the inside linebackers during seven on seven 84 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: trolls and and kind of the blemish on Lamar's day 85 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: was he got picked off by Trenton Simpson during seven 86 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: on seven's multiple guys getting their hands on the ball. 87 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Teddy Buchanan also came up with an interception. Uh, and 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: then what's Jake Hummel got his hands on one nearly 89 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: had a pick too. So the inside linebackers showing off 90 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: in coverage today. 91 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's good for Trent and Simpson to 92 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: make a play like that. This is a big year 93 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: for him. We've talked about that, like he's he has 94 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: an opportunity here to to etch out his starting job. 95 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: It's he's got a competition the rookie Teddy Buchan, who's 96 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: going to push him. This is the first time we've 97 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: seen Jake Hummel on the field. You know, you think 98 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: that Humble is probably more of a special team He. 99 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Was on the last last week of o t AS. 100 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, but like this is this is the time 101 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: to you know, this is good a time for Trent 102 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: Simpson to earn himself that starting job. He did a 103 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: coming out of camp last year and then the Ravens 104 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: ended up switching it out and going with Malie Harrison 105 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: and Chris Bord down the stretch last year. But I 106 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: think it's that's that's big for for Trenton to have 107 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: a play like that and uh in these early practices 108 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: and that's encouraging. 109 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 110 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: I talked to Trenton at the end of OTAs and 111 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: he really talked about how how much the game has 112 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: slowed down for him now this offseason. How much you know, 113 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: pre snap especially he's able to kind of see what 114 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: the offense might be might be doing, and a lot 115 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: of that is a testament to his offseason work with 116 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: Roquan Smith. Roquand came back in March and spent the 117 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: entire March all the way through till now with Trenton 118 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: and those two guys working out watching film and they 119 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: were kind of joined at the hip this offseason. I 120 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: think that makes a big difference. And then also Tyler Santucci, 121 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens new inside linebackers coach, give him credit, and 122 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: I think he's doing a really good job with Trenton 123 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: as well. And Trenton just feels you can almost see 124 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: last season which is really you know, basically his rookie 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: year because he didn't really play as a rookie. You know, 126 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: the wheels were really turning and kind of diagnosing things 127 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: and getting the right run fits and just it was 128 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: a lot. It just seemed like it was too much 129 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: at times, and that's why he ended up, you know, 130 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: seating his starting job to the veterans. But you know, 131 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: to hear him say, he feels so much more confident 132 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: and he knows what's going on, you know, pre snap 133 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: he's communicating so much more. Zach Or talked about how 134 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: he's become one of the biggest communicators on the team. 135 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: I think all that is it's you know, it's really 136 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: a good sign for trent and Simpson. And then it's 137 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: plays like this in mini camp that kind of boost 138 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: that confidence even more and say all right, I'm ready. 139 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: You know, Trenton's been a guy that I think he's 140 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: an easy guy to root for. He works really hard, 141 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: he's like one of he's like classic, like first guy 142 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: in the building, last. 143 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Guy out, one of the team, one. 144 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: Of the nicest guys. 145 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: Like I just like everything that you see about him, 146 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: So you want to see him transition that to the field, 147 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: and I think that like he's got the work ethic. 148 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: I think that he's got more of an understanding of 149 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: what's happening all around him just from experience, and now 150 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: you want to see it translate to place like that's 151 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: what happened today, Like that's the next step for him. 152 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: And so that was that was encouraging and it was 153 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: great to see it. 154 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: Yep, Yep. 155 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: Another guy that I'll point to on defense who just 156 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: like continues to catch my eye when watching practice is 157 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: a DAFA way, Like I just look at the guy physically, 158 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: like we've talked about him, adding twenty pounds this offseason. 159 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: It it's it's almost jarring, honestly when you see him, 160 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: and I still think he's still moving really well. 161 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: Like that's the that's the thing that you worry about. 162 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: There's one play that that I thought illustrated that from practice, 163 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: and that was the Ravens ran this kind of bootleg 164 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: out and it looked like it was going to be 165 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: a boot like short pass to the running back to 166 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: Justicilla I think in the flats and Oway just kind 167 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: of crashed down on Lamar, made Lamar pull it down, 168 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: and then you see Lamar kind of dancing and juking, 169 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: and he'll juke many outside linebackers to that, but always 170 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: stayed square on him and like would have had the sack, 171 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: which is saying a lot on Lamar in the open field, 172 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: but like to see him twenty pounds heavier and still 173 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: be able to adjust like that and keep his balance, 174 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: that was a really good sign because in part, you know, 175 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: I think why o'dafe hasn't necessarily gotten as many sacks 176 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: and now he was double jed sack guy is you know, 177 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: he hasn't had the balance, the power at the top 178 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: of his rush to really finish, Like there's been so 179 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: many cases of man o'dafe it was this close, right, 180 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: And to be able to have like that balance, that 181 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: power at the top to kind of finish that sack. 182 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: I think now he's got that. 183 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so like Lamar versus anybody at the open fields, 184 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: like basically an impossible assignment. It's really hard for an 185 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: outside linebacker. But that was that was like kind of 186 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: a telling moment for me. Yeah, I agree, how's this guy. 187 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: Gonna look bigger? And because we see this, you see 188 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: it all the. 189 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: Time around the league, where like a guy gets bigger, 190 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: guy gets lighter, and like it sounds good in theory 191 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: at times, but then how can you still do the 192 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: things that you could do previously? 193 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: And sometimes you can, sometimes. 194 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: You can more, there's supposed to be a reason. 195 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: So like I think that he'll be able to hold 196 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: up even better on the edge, and I don't think 197 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: that he's sacrificing the agility and speed that made him 198 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: such a unique player. 199 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought that was encouraging to see that today. 200 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: Now I know you before we get to training camp, 201 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: really like you don't even watch the trenches at all. 202 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: You just see I'm over here. It's just like, do 203 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: I even put these guys on the field. Let's just 204 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: go seven on seven. But I will say I thought, no, 205 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm the mat of BK today at practice made a 206 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: few places. Yeah he did, and and he kind of 207 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: really stood out to me. And what is you know, 208 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: I think last year didn't individually go as well as 209 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: he probably wanted it to, coming off of the previous 210 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: year where he put up monster numbers. And some of 211 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: that was like he just finished sacks at a really 212 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: high rate the year before, like an unusually high rate 213 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: considering you look at pressure rate versus sacks. He just 214 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: had a lot of sacks in comparison to his pressure rate. 215 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: His pressu rate was still very good. Last year, just 216 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: didn't result in necessarily as many sacks. I expect that 217 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: to even out more this year and him be more 218 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: in that eight to double digit sack range. 219 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: And so but I'll. 220 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Tell you, he looks really good here in mini camp, 221 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: and I think it's a good sign for what he's 222 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: gonna do this year. 223 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: I was watching the trenches as well. 224 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, no, you are deep. 225 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: I already mentioned O way, I mean that's that's semi 226 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: trenches that's the. 227 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Edge of the trenches interior guests. 228 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: But another guy who's also on the edge who I 229 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: thought flashed one particular play today was David a Jabo. 230 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: He blew by the right tackle on a play, got 231 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: by noteboom and then got into the backfield for what 232 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: would have been a sack and Chuck Smith pass rush 233 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: coach is pretty fired up about that. I gave him 234 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: some big props as a Jabo came over of the sideline, 235 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: So it was it was encouraging to see like that 236 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: play to me was like that's why a Jabo was 237 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: would have been a first round pick without the injury. 238 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: Like it was like this burst off the edge, get 239 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: to the backfield, and he's another guy Like when he 240 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: does get to the quarterback, he has a good track 241 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: record of getting the ball out and finishing. Yeah, he's 242 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: just really good when he gets around the quarterback. So 243 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: if he can if he can get around the quarterback more, yeah, 244 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: Like basically, I mean, if if he can, say on 245 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 4: the field, that's a big thing for him his health. 246 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: But then once he's on the field, if he can 247 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: make some of these plays and have that burst off 248 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: the edge that he had in college, like that. That 249 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: would be like if a job we can develop into 250 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: that player, man, that that's gonna be an embarrassment of 251 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: riches for the Ravens from the mast rush stamping. 252 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: And that's a weird not to go too far into 253 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: the leads here, but I mean the outside linebacker competition 254 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: right now is I did the numbers game before practice 255 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: started today, and when you're putting together the fifty three 256 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: man roster, you got some tough decisions at outside linebacker. 257 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: I mean because you got a da Fe Van neu 258 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: or Lock, Mike Green, Tavius locks. 259 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: That's four locks right there. 260 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: And I'm then on top of it, you have a 261 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Jabo and Aedsa, right, so you're keeping six. 262 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot outside linebackers. But got lee. 263 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: They're all talented. You know, Lisa's third round pick in 264 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: his second year. I want to see what he's got 265 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: And if a Jabo keeps making plays like that getting 266 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: into the backfield, then you know, I still am intrigued 267 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: at what he will bring I could bring. So I 268 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: think it's it's clearly a very big summer for David 269 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: Ajabo to kind of prove that he's worth waiting more 270 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: waiting longer for him to become that guy. 271 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally agree, Andy, other big notes from what you 272 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 4: saw it on the practice field. 273 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know this Ruben Lowry guy, I know he 274 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: does make plays. Is his third interception? 275 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah he got another one? Ye undrafted rookie safety. 276 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: You gotta explain it. I don't know if the fans 277 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: know right off the top. 278 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: Lounge listeners now don't sell lounge listeners short, they know 279 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: that they were watching the trenches. 280 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you our listeners more football guys. 281 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: Than you mentioning a safety here, you're talking about a safety. 282 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: I know. 283 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm just saying there, they're football piece. They're in the 284 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: weeds with me. We're in the weeds, Camo Old Night. 285 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you know, I love our fans. 286 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: I know our fans love talking about undrafted rookies. Undrafted 287 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: rookie Ruben Lowry, you know, and can he can he 288 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: be kind of a He's a smaller guy. He's in 289 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: the Ardarius Washington. You look at him, You're like, see 290 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: bigger than ard Arius? Is he about the same size Ardarius? 291 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: But hey, Ardarius was an undrafted rookie dB safety, you know, 292 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: and Lowry's was more of a corner in college, but 293 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: can he play a little safety? 294 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Can he be that kind of versatile guy. 295 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: I don't. 296 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: It's still very much a long shot, but just saying. 297 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: The Ravens have had a nice track record of finding 298 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: some of those late round or undrafted DB's at safety, 299 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: Like Bo Braid made the team last year as an 300 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie of safety. Lucy Kane was the seventh round pick. 301 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: So like those both those guys and they're and they're 302 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: now competing for larger roles and spots and all that. 303 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 4: But yeah, like sometimes you see that, you see a 304 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: guy make plays, and like having consistency with it is 305 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 4: the key for somebody like Lowry to carve out a 306 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: spot on the fifty three or on the practice squad. 307 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, you keep making interceptions, the coaches are going 308 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: to notice, and that's like what happened. That's I remember 309 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: that happening with Geno Stone, and I remember that happening 310 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: with our Darius Washington. Like those are guys that like 311 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: were just making plays and you're like, man, this guy 312 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: he's got something right. So if you get going, it's 313 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 4: like Harball has said many times, like make a play 314 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: a day, make a play a day, and that's going 315 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: to catch the attention to the coaches. 316 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: And he's doing a nice job with that. 317 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: Well, he didn't mention arguably the play of the day 318 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: that CJ. Tampa's interception in the back of the end 319 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: zone was pretty took it off was Daton Wade's helmet 320 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: basically and toe tap in the back of the end zone. 321 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a pretty impressive interception. 322 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, do not want to leave that one out. That 323 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: was a nice play. 324 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: Another guy who's got he's fighting for a spot and 325 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: a job, you know, in a role. 326 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a kind of roll yeah. Yeah. 327 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: And so the corner is the other tough spot, especially 328 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: when you have a couple of six round rookies that 329 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: I think are talented guys. It's the it's a numbers 330 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: game and you know, we'll get to this after the 331 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: break here. But is there the possibility that could they 332 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: could add another corner so it's pro Bowl corner, yes, 333 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, I think TJ. Tampa also has 334 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: work cut out for him. He's got to prove himself 335 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: this same. 336 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but taking taking an interception off of receiver's hands 337 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: and to tap into the back of the end zone. 338 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: That's going to help your. 339 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Case, yep, for sure. 340 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: So we'll take a quick break. 341 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll dive into what we heard 342 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: from Lamar Jackson and DeAndre Hopkins and give you some 343 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: other thoughts from the first day of mandatory camp. You're 344 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: listening to the Lunch podcast. We are coming to you 345 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: from the Seat Geek Studio. We also want to mention 346 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: our partners at Draft Kings Sports Book. There an official 347 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft King Sports Book. 348 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: The Crown is yours. So in addition to seeing Lamar 349 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Jackson on the field, we also got a chance to 350 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: hear from him, which a lot of people were excited about. 351 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: This is the first time that we've talked with him 352 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: since last season ended, and so we did. Unfortunately, there 353 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: were lots of questions about the Buffalo game, so we 354 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: had to relive that a little bit. But a couple 355 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: of things that stood out to me from what I 356 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: heard Lamar say is he did say that like we're 357 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: going to come back with a vengeance, and I think 358 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: that he is definitely a player who is driven by disappointments. 359 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: He even said that I don't get over any loss, 360 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: Like there's still losses that he took in youth football 361 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: that still agitate him. And so he is motivated by 362 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: that stuff and driven by it. And I think that 363 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: other players feel that as well. It's only natural. But 364 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: I think that the fact that Lamar is driven by 365 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: that kind of thing, I think is only a tone 366 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: setter for this group. And him saying like we're gonna 367 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: come back with a vengeance, I think is gives you 368 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: an indication of his mindset. 369 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 370 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: I think also at the same time, he doesn't want 371 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: to kind of get ahead of himself. You know, you 372 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: have to pace yourself. It's mini camp. Yeah, and you 373 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: know I was asking. I asked him. With all these 374 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: weapons around you, you know, do you kind of look 375 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: around in the offensive line, should be better year another 376 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: year under their belts, kind of mature as a group, Uh, 377 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, do you look around and say, hey man, 378 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: we're capable of some special things. And he's like, honestly, like, 379 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: I just don't even I don't want to get ahead 380 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: of myself, Like let's wait, we'll see, we'll see, you know. 381 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: But it's clear that he is delighted with with what 382 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: he has around him, of course, for Shan Bateman, Zay 383 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Flowers and now de Hop and the Ravens offense is 384 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: in a very good position. Lamar happy, Lamar Jackson is 385 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: a happy man. 386 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: The other thing that he said that certainly caught my 387 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: attention was he gave a little defense of Mark Andrews. 388 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: And of course I'm prompted it was not asked about this. 389 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like and and of course we all know the 390 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: season and for the team and from Marked and end 391 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: the way that he wanted with that game in Buffalo. 392 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of speculation about him really the 393 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: entire offseason. 394 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: Do the Ravens trade him? Is he going to be back? 395 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: And all this stuff, and you know he's obviously going 396 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: to be back on the team this year. He's back 397 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 4: and the Ravens have big expectations and goals for him. 398 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: But for Lamar to just go out there and say, like, I. 399 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: Didn't like that, Yeah, I didn't like all that talk. 400 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: And like that, that's the point he may is, I 401 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: didn't like that. Managers are still managers. Mark is still Mark, 402 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: and like he's gonna He's done great things for the team. 403 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: He's going to continue to do great things for the team. 404 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: And I didn't like seeing that talk. I don't like 405 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 4: hearing that talk. And that gives you, like an indication 406 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: of what Lamar thinks of Mark Andrews and how important 407 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: he is, and he has clearly not even thought about 408 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: losing any shred of confidence. 409 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think it also might give you an indication 410 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: of part of the reason why Mark is still on 411 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: this team. Yeah, when your franchise quarterback, the star player 412 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: of your team, when you know that's how he feels 413 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: about Mark Andrews. 414 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: And that's why when there was conversation this offseason about 415 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: with the Ravens move on from him, like that's why 416 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: I never thought it would happen. It was one like 417 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: Mark's a great player, and I think that, like as 418 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: Eric Acosta said, like we're of the business of keeping 419 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: great players. So that's the first part. But the second part, 420 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: to me, and it's maybe equally as important, it's like 421 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and Mark and just have this special connection. 422 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: They've been at the sing since day one together and. 423 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Part of the same draft class together since the start. 424 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: And and like that is their dynamic on the field 425 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: and off the field is special and unique and I 426 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: just didn't think that the Ravens will want to break 427 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: that up. 428 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would have taken a very very, 429 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: very very hefty offer, if anything. 430 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: Right, And so I'm glad that Mark is still here. 431 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: Clearly Lamar is glad that Mark is still here. And 432 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: and you know, I think we're finally putting any of 433 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: that talk to Ben. 434 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: Well talking about contracts and whatnot, Lamar Jackson was asked 435 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: about the potential of a contract extension. 436 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: It was really to dive into that. 437 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: You want to give it a full quote. 438 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: Yours quote was, I'm not talking about it. I never 439 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: talked about my contract exactly. 440 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: That he almost got baded into. 441 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: There's the follow up of well, John Carlo says, whenever 442 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: you do sign that contract, it's gonna be the biggest 443 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: one out there that you gotta like that, and He's like, yeah, 444 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: I take that baby either. 445 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah. 446 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: Great. Lamar's like, hey, everybody, we've done this. 447 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: Before, right, We've been we've done this dance. 448 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: Have I ever gotten up here and talked about my contract? 449 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: And uh, he was not looking to do that today. 450 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: And so I don't, you know, like I think that 451 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: whole situation we'll see where that goes. I think it's 452 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: only a matter of time when he gets another contract. 453 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: Of course, he's still on a he's still under contract 454 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: for several more years. But the reason it's even a 455 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 4: conversation right now is because a salary cap takes a 456 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: huge jump next year to a point where it's really 457 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: kind of untenable, and so you would want to get 458 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: a deal done before next season. That's why we're even 459 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: talking about it, only two years into a five year deal. 460 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: But again, I think it's only a matter of time 461 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 4: for when that happens. And and you know, Lamar wants 462 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 4: to be here. The Ravens of course want Lamar. So 463 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: it's just funny to see the conversation come up again 464 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: and Lamar say, yeah, I'm not talking about. 465 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: It, right. 466 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty cool to see Lamar presented with the 467 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: PFWA MVP Award, that's the Pro Football Writers' Association Award. 468 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: It's the third time that he's won that MVP Award. 469 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: So at least these these writers the PFWA, give them credit. 470 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: They got it right. 471 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got it right. 472 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: They got it right. So, you know, not in the 473 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: MVP that we all expected him to win. Back at 474 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: the NFL Honors in February. But this is a very 475 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: well deserved honor nonetheless, so congratulations to Lamar on that one. 476 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: The other big thing from Lamar was the question of 477 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: and we tease this back in the first segment, but 478 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: was the question of cornerback Jaiyir Alexander. Yeah, previously other 479 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers Pro Bowl cornerback. 480 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: And before that of the Louisville Cardinals. 481 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: Yes, they were teammates together in Louisville, and Lamar was 482 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: asked about the possibility of. 483 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Adding Jaiyr Alexander, and you want to give the. 484 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Quote on that one said go get Americ. 485 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: He he was very you know, in contrast with what 486 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: he said about his contract, Lamar was very very clear 487 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: about what he wanted on that front. Yeah, go get 488 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: Americ was the quote. And so said he's reached out 489 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: to Alexander about the possibility. And so I think that 490 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: certainly adds more juice to this narrative that this could 491 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: be a move. I mean, I've been kind of saying 492 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: it from the beginning. It's a move that to me 493 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: makes a whole lot of sense. I think obviously, the 494 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: dollars has to work out and all those things, and 495 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: he's got to be healthy in the medical portion of this, 496 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: and the Ravens, you know, the Ravens have to want 497 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: him to beyond Lamar Jackson, right, But on the surface, 498 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: like I know that there's injury questions with the Jayira Alexander, 499 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: but I think that to me, he's a guy that 500 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: he's worth taking that kind of air quotes risk on 501 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: of like you you know, you don't know because you 502 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: also have Cheatabay o Woozier, right, and so like, Okay, 503 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: great if Jaira Lexander can give me seventeen games, awesome 504 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: if he can give me fifteen and cheatah Bay takes 505 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: two or whatever. So if the two of those guys 506 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: together can give you seventeen, like we're in a good spot. 507 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: You know the issue Cheat Obay's also had injury issues 508 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: over the years. Like if cheat Obay goes down, now 509 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: you're kind of in a more difficult scenario. You know, 510 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: you're Jaylen Armor Davis, who we know, I like, you 511 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: know TJ. Tampa Lake, but you're getting a little further down. 512 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: I'd feel better about the situation if you have Jaiyir 513 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: and cheat o Bay kind of ye Cheetoh. 514 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: Was a guy like who he had a pass break 515 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: up today, which was he. 516 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: Had a good He had a good day. He's actually 517 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: a guy that we should have mentioned at the top 518 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: of this. He had he had a pass breakup and 519 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: he came flying downhill on a run stop too, and 520 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: it was just good to see him out there. He 521 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: got kind of nicked up in the third week of OTA, 522 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: so yeah, he had a good day. 523 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, So neither of us are closing the book on 524 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: Cheeto being an important piece of the defense this year. 525 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: But like, you just need depth of corner and and 526 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: you have a. 527 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: Top flight guy when he's healthy and on the playing 528 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: it's a Pro Bowl kind of player who maybe you 529 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: can get him on a team friendly deal because of 530 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: all the injuries and all that stuff. Like this just 531 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: it just we've been here long enough. It just smells 532 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: like a Raven's kind of move. It just smells like 533 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: a Javian Clowney kind esque move, right. 534 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: And then then when you have your your franchise quarterback 535 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 4: saying that he wants him, that only adds fuel to 536 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: the fire. 537 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 538 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll see what happens on that front. And 539 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: and if you know The other part of the course 540 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: that we have no idea of is what JayR Alexander wants. 541 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 4: Where does he have any you know, desire, where he 542 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: wants to play and all that stuff. 543 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: We have no idea there. But certainly that was a 544 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: big takeaway from today. 545 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: I can't imagine any defender out there, any player out there, 546 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: looks at the Ravens says nah, I don't want to 547 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: go play with Lamar Jackson on a team that's knocking 548 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: on the. 549 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: Door, especially when Lamar says I want you here exactly. 550 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine anybody be like. 551 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: I'll pass. Yeah, And then it comes to again, dollars 552 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: and cents. 553 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always that's always part of it, you know. 554 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: But the Ravens have enough salary cap flexibility in room 555 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: right now that, like on paper, it seems like a 556 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: move they could make. It's not one of these situations, 557 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: these far fetched things that people throw out there. 558 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: There's just no way, you know what I mean. So, 559 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: but we don't know, we don't know. 560 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I think a lot of it it's what's the market 561 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: for him, Like, is there some team out there that like, 562 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: is willing to pay him way more than the Ravens 563 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: would be willing to pay because, like whatever, they have 564 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: a ton of salary cap space and they're like, hey, 565 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: it's you're Alexander, let's go. 566 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, maybe, yeah, it's possible. We also heard 567 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 4: from DeAndre Hopkins today, which was good to hear from him. 568 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: It's the first time we've talked with him since he 569 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: signed his contract earlier this offseason, so he's had some 570 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 4: practices under his belt. We already talked about the impact 571 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: that he's making out there on the field, you. 572 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: Know, and he and and the thing. A couple of 573 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: things that stood out to me. 574 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: One you actually asked him about what's been the thing 575 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 4: that's like really been his biggest takeaway so far, and 576 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: he said the camaraderie of this team. And I thought 577 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: that was pretty telling for a veteran player that's been 578 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: a number of different places in the league a long 579 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 4: time for him to come in and just feel like 580 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: the camaraderie of this team is something special. 581 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: I think that says something. 582 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, he's seen it all. He's he's 583 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: been in a lot of different locker rooms like you're 584 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: talking about, So I think that's cool. And you know, 585 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: I think I think also like the communication aspect, and 586 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, he said the key between he and Lamar 587 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: is going to be communication, communication, communication. And also we 588 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: heard from quarterbacks coach te Martin and he talked about 589 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: how Lamar his biggest growth over the past couple of 590 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: years and this continues to be an area where he 591 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: continues to grow is his communication. Yeah, and you know, 592 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: welcome guys wide receivers, tight ends coming into the quarterbacks 593 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: room and those guys having those smaller sessions to get 594 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: on the same page and talk through what they like 595 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: and how they see things and whatnot. Like, I just 596 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: think that Lamar, how much communication he has with his teammates, 597 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: including de Hop, it just it's a great thing to 598 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: see that continue to evolve. 599 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've said this, but every time I see 600 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: him at practice, like I'm even more convinced that d 601 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: Hop has plenty of gas in the tank. Like he's 602 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: moving well, man, he's he's got burst. There was one 603 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 4: play where he caught it and just turned up field 604 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, he's still got plenty of juice. 605 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: And he said that as well. He's like, yeah, I'm 606 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: still plenty fast. 607 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: He posted on Instagram a couple of weeks ago, he 608 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 4: had one of the fastest times out of practice. 609 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 3: In terms of how he was running. 610 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: And because they track all that they have, they're wearing 611 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 4: you know, trackers, so they're able to see exactly how 612 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: fast guys are moving. 613 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: He was one of the fastest. And so he still 614 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: feels that way. 615 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: Like he said that to it, he still feels like 616 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: he's plenty fast and watching practice he looks at as. 617 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I'm impressed to the hoop and I like 618 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: his energy. He's he brings that vet energy. Man, he's 619 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: just like chill and I think he's gonna fit in 620 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: well here. 621 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 622 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: So it was a good productive day of Minny camp. 623 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: Lamar said it was the best thing he's done this 624 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: offseason was working out here with the guys. So I'll 625 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 4: set and that it was. It was good to see 626 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: these guys working in a really productive day. So one 627 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: more day of mandatory camp before the break here and 628 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: then it's the long the long break of the off 629 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: season before training camp. 630 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: But one more day it works. 631 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 4: So we're gonna come back again tomorrow and you are 632 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: full breakdown of everything that we see out there on 633 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: the practice field. As always, you can email us at 634 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you 635 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: for listening. 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