1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome to the Foundation's podcast. I'm your host, 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about the decisions 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: we make that we might not even really think about 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: that make us bad dog owners. You know, sometimes inspiration 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: for these shows is tougher to locate, you know, tougher 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: than of finding a down rooster in the cattails after 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: you've just tickled in with your second shot. But other 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: times it runs right up and bites you in the ass. 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: You'll hear about what exactly lit the fire for this 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: show soon enough. But honestly, a lot of dog training 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: advice and info centers completely on us changing our dogs behavior, 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: but not a lot of it centers on us changing 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: our behavior with dogs. Now, if you have any off 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the record conversation with a decent dog trainer, you're going 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to hear all about that. It's no small part of 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: being a dog owner, and we could easily slip into 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: bad owner territory without even realizing it. This is what 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about right now. Back in twenty seventeen, 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I boarded a flight bound for Houston, and once I 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: got there, I boarded another flight that was pointed in 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the direction of Buenos Aires, Argentina. The trip was a 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: combo hunt for ducks and doves, and it was something 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: that I hadn't even really dreamed of because it felt 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: like it would never actually happen. But I did get 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the invite from Lacrosse Boots to head down there and 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: test out some waiters and footwear, and since I'm no dummy, 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I said yes and listen. The duck hunting was incredible, 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: if not somewhat gratuitous, while the dove hunting was just 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: completely gratuitous. I can see why some folks want to 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: hunt like that, but for me, it was just way, 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: way too much. I'm just not angry enough at the 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: dove population to chase a body count of one thousand 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: in a day. Anyway, the outfitters we hunted with were 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: top notch, and one of the partners had a wild 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: job in his youth which he told stories about, which 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: involved catching why animals in Africa for placement in European zoos. 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking squirrels here, but big dangerous critters. 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: This fella, who went by Junior, I don't even really 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: know if it was his name or his nickname, said 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: that if you can get close enough to a running 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: giraffe to grab it by its tail. It will instantly stop, 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: and then you can pretty much do what you need 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: to to capture it. He also said that for a 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: while they fed young male lions in order to gain 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: their trust over time, and eventually, I guess get him 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: into a trap now. At one point, he recounted a 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: story of carrying in a side of zebra or some 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: other planes game animal into an area where they were 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: conditioning a specific lion. As you can imagine from an 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: operation like that, safety wasn't a huge priority, but Junior 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: said they always went in in pairs so that the 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: feeder had armed backup. On this particular trip, Junior said, 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the lion walked up and when Junior looked him in 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the eyes, he said to his partner, you better get 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: ready because this dude's going to bite me. Must have 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: been a not much fun instant. The cat did exactly that. 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: It swatted him to the dirt with a big old paw, 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: sunk its teeth into his backstraps, and picked him up 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: to carry him off. Junior's armed partner couldn't get a 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: clean shot off, and so Junior rode along for two 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: hundred yards like a stuffed dog toy or I guess 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: cat toy. Then, for reasons known only to that lion, 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: it set him down and just walked off. Maybe Junior 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: tasted like shit. I don't know, but I do know 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: that recently, I was in a hotel with a worn 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: out lab when I realized my phone charger was still 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: in my truck. So I walked down the stairs and 68 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: happened to get to the door leading to the parking 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: lot at the exact same time as a fellow struggling 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: to get a cooler to his truck, and he had 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: an off Leashweimerunner who didn't quite look directly at me 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: when I entered the scene, but seemed to become vaguely 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: aware of me. The instant I saw that dog, I 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: thought to myself, that dumb son of a bitch is 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: going to bite me. I wish I was joking, but 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. For whatever reason, I've been around seven million 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: dogs and have rarely, rarely thought that. But I looked 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: at the disconnected stare of that dog and it was 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: just like plain as day that he wasn't all there. Now, 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: maybe I'm as dumb as I don't know your average 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Wimer honor because I walked out there anyway, and when 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: that dog started barking at me, I just kept walking 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: while the owner started yelling. I don't remember if the 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: dog had a collar on or not, but I know 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't leashed. The guy had no free hands, and 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: after making a run at me once, the dog made 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: another run and bit me right on the ass. I 88 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: again wish I was joking, but I am not. When 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I turned around, thinking I might have to kick the 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: second dog in my life right in his face, it 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: ran off and I just looked at the guy and said, 92 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ man, this guy wouldn't even make eye contact 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: with me. Now, before all of you high flying Wymer 94 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: on her owners try to mobilize and cancel me, remember this, 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think. I have no doubt 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: there are great Wymer Honors out there and that they 97 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: are the as absolute best dog for certain people. I 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: actually have no hate my heart for that breed or 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: any breed really, So you can relax. But that owner, 100 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I hope he zips his nutsack up and his Jean 101 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: zipper like I did one time when I was very 102 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: hungover and heading off to hunt bears in Canada. You 103 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: guys and gals all know where this is going. It 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: wasn't that dog's fault. I can promise you that owner 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: and knew his dog was as smooth brained as they come, 106 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: and he still brought him down a hotel hallway and 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: out into a hotel parking lot without any way to 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: control him. An absolutely zero chance of a recall if 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: that dog set out to do what it wanted, which 110 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: by the looks of it was a very likely scenario. Now, 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: it was a light bite on my ass, which was 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: fortunate for all involved. But what if it hadn't been 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: or it had not been a dude who's six too 114 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: and was wearing brush pants but instead of four foot 115 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: tall kid wearing pajamas. That town I was staying in 116 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: is right in the heart of some of my favorite 117 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: pheasant country, and it's one of the few places that 118 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: still allows dogs. That hotel is kind of a rare 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: find these days. Now, imagine if that bite had been 120 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: worse and the policy that hotel had changed because of it. 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Literally one bad dog owner could have kept countless good 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: dog owners from heading out of town to chase roosters 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: around or at the very least made it a lot 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: harder to facilitate such a trip. What does it make 125 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: that guy, well, you decide. But the off leash, no 126 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: handle on a dog thing is always indicative of owners 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: who've made a poor choice, who are making poor choices. Look, 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: we all love our dogs to death, and we view 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: them with the rosiest of glasses. But our heavily biased 130 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: perception of our dogs doesn't alter the reality in which 131 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: we live, and we have to tamp down that love 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: fest when it involves other people and other dogs. The 133 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: amount of times I've had people's dogs run up to 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: me off leash while I was running in the park 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: by myself is dozens. And most of the dogs that 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: actively run up to you in that situation display some aggression, 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, unless they're just puppies looking for love. I 138 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: don't expect much out of the general pet owning public, honestly, 139 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: But folks who decide to buy dedicated bird dogs and 140 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: then train them to some level, I just hold them 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: to a higher standard. So not only is it incredibly 142 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: rude to let your off leash dog run up to strangers, 143 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: it's also dangerous to your dog. While you might have 144 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the most lovable Golden Retriever or German short hair on 145 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the planet, the dude walking his pitbull through the park 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: might not have the same vibes. If there's one thing 147 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: that can trigger a quick nasty response out of some dogs, 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a strange dog running straight at them, especially when 149 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: they are on a leash. And look, we all make 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: mistakes on this front. I was mortified one time when 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: I was working with my lab Luna in the front 152 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: yard when she was I don't know, maybe seven eight 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: months old. A woman who runs in our neighborhood a 154 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: lot went sprinting right on by, and I wasn't paying 155 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: attention to Luna enough so that I had no chance 156 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: to get a hold of the check cord before she 157 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: took off and tried to get a little scratch behind 158 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the ear. But this woman didn't know that, and I 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: still feel a little embarrassed when I see her, and 160 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: it's been like twelve years since that incident. It happens, 161 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: but we should try not to set things up so 162 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: it's guaranteed to happen, especially in a place where you 163 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: have no idea who you're going to run into. Not 164 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: everyone loves dogs, which is weird, I know, but I'll 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: never forget one. And Sadie was a little puppy, like 166 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: maybe a three month old type of puppy, and we 167 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: took her to Cabella's to get her a little socialization 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: and to get me a whole bunch of bass lures. 169 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: When we were standing in the checkout line, Sadie was 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: just milling around at my feet on leash by the way, 171 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: and the woman in front of us turned around and 172 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: absolutely lost her shit because she didn't know she was 173 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: within like seven feet of a dog. I guess I've 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: never seen someone scream louder over something less threatening other 175 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: than the times that a cottontail rabbit jumped into the 176 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: side of my buddy Ryan's bike while we were riding 177 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: through the neighborhood in sixth grade. In his eyes, it 178 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: was like a Monty Python level rabbit attack or something. 179 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Some people don't want your dog in their business, you know, 180 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: like at parks, at beaches, at anywhere public, and you 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: know what, that's fair. I don't really trust non dog 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: people much, but I know they exist partially because I 183 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: was raised by one, and it's just a sign of 184 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: a good dog owner to recognize that and live as 185 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: if that's true wherever they take their pups out into 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: the world. We had a neighbor a few years back 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: who thankfully moved away, but he and his family were 188 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: terrified of dogs, all dogs. We have a pretty loose 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: policy in our neighborhood with dogs in our yards because 190 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: there are several of us with bird dogs and they 191 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: are all pretty well trained. But one of our neighbors 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: has a catahula, which, if you've never met one, makes 193 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the average whim runners seem like a well adjusted, super 194 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: intelligent dog. Again, guys, I'm kidding. Louis. The cata hula 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: casually wandered over to the new neighbors one day and 196 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: it didn't go well. There were death threats, which felt 197 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: a bit extreme to me, But as Eddie Vetter said 198 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: a long time ago, some words, when spoken can't be 199 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: taken back. It kind of sucks, but as dog owners, 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: we are responsible for how our dogs integrate with the world, 201 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: not the other way around. The world doesn't have to 202 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: accommodate us, and so we have to read situations, try 203 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: our best to train them well, and just maintain a 204 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: level of common sense with our dogs. This goes for 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things too. Have you ever stepped into 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: an unexpected pile of dog shit. If you're listening to this, 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I bet you have literally not once in the history 208 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: of humankind has anyone ever enjoyed that. And there are 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: some sick bastards out there. I once woke up in 210 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the night to my dog panting really 211 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: heavily in my ear, which is when you know that 212 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: your lab has a two inch grip on a sixth 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: sinch turred and as I quickly and very athletically leaped 214 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: from my bed to get her out, I stepped in 215 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: a large, cold pile of dog poop with my bare feet. 216 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: If there is any sensation that's worse than that, it 217 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: probably involves the zipper of your jeans and a part 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: of the male anatomy. You definitely don't want caught in 219 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: a zipper, especially after you drank way way too much 220 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: at a wedding the night before. Not cleaning up after 221 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: our dogs is a great way to piss off neighbors, 222 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: lose privileges to bring your dogs to different places, and 223 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: it's just bad owner behavior. That hotel I stayed at 224 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: where that demonic whimer on or viciously attacked me, has 225 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: a huge grassy area in the back of it that's 226 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: fenced off from the nearby highway, which means it's just 227 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a perfect spot to let the dogs out to do 228 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: their thing in the morning. It's all so littered with 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: piles of dog poop, which is insane considering there are 230 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: bags available in trash cans literally right there. The thing 231 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: that pisses me off the most about that is that 232 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I know a fair amount of those piles come from 233 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: bird dogs. This is kind of like when there is 234 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: a private land open to the public hunting program, you know, 235 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: in some different state, which is you know, just generally 236 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: always a net benefit to hunters, except that some hunters 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: leave gates open, some hunters use screwing steps to put 238 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: in their tree stands, you know, when they're not supposed to, 239 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: and just generally don't treat the place with a modicum 240 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: of respect, and then everyone loses out. It's just a 241 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: good idea to have some poop eggs handy pretty much, 242 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, wherever you go, so that your dog doesn't 243 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: leave land mines out for folks who really don't want 244 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: to have to wash their shoes when they get home. 245 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: It's simple stuff mostly, but it seems to be lost 246 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: on a lot of people. I keep going back to 247 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: that hotel as an example because it's one of the 248 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: few places I interact with a fair amount of strangers 249 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: in their dogs, so I apologize for that. But you 250 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: know what else is a huge sign that someone is 251 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: a bad dog owner that I learn over and over 252 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: at that hotel when their dog barks and barks and 253 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: barks and barks and barks around other people in a hotel, 254 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: that is just insane to me. If your dog does 255 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: that once and you figure it out, okay, If you 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: keep going into settings where your dog can hear people 257 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: in the hallways and hear your doors closing, and it's 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: the kind of dog that will never stop barking at 259 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: those noises, you should figure out how to stay in 260 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: an airbnb er somewhere else. The amount of people who 261 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: allow their dogs to just bark and bark is amazing 262 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: to me, and not like, you know, the Northern lights 263 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: are amazing. I once spent a couple of nights in 264 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: a tent in South Dakota wall hunting pheasants, where I 265 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: listened to a pair of setters bark all night long, 266 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: and the dude who owned them could not have cared 267 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: less that literally everyone hated him and his dogs. We 268 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: have a cabin at a lake in Minnesota that is 269 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: close to a large campground. The amount of times I'm 270 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: out there fishing at sunrise and I can hear someone's 271 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: dog just barking away while families try to sleep in 272 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: tents is insane. And often you'll eventually hear someone finally 273 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: screams some not PG related suggestions at the dog owner. Again, 274 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: if that's your dog, don't go camping where other people 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: are in close proximity to you, or at least make 276 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: an attempt to figure out how to shut them up. Now, 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I realize all this stuff happens, but I think a 278 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: lot of these bad dog owner behaviors come from one 279 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: of two places. The first is just that some people 280 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: suck and they don't care about others. Not much we 281 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: can do about that crowd, but maybe the zombie apocalypse 282 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: will hit and we can stake those people to trees 283 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: to occupy the undead while we make our break for 284 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: it or something. The other reason is that people just 285 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: get in over their heads with dogs. The bad behavior 286 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: that we allow is the bad behavior that we allow. 287 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: If that makes sense and much of that comes from 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: having just a little too much dog to handle. Not 289 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: everyone will admit this, especially us men and our giant, 290 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: fragile egos. But if we are of the couch potato 291 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: variety and we get an absolute burner of a breed, 292 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: we're bound to have some problems. Even when we go 293 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: for the perfect breed, you know, based on a million 294 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: factors just for us, we can still mismanage that relationship, 295 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: or the dog's energy level and whatever else, and eventually 296 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: end up with a dog that will exhibit bad behaviors 297 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: while we grow increasingly frustrated because we don't know how 298 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: to get a handle on something that we could have 299 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: addressed early on successfully. Good dogs are a work in progress. 300 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: But so we're good dog owners. We not only owe 301 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: it to the public at large just because it's the 302 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: right thing to do, but we owe it to ourselves 303 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: and our dogs to try to not be bad dog owners. 304 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't really know how to put it any other way, 305 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know how to make it any more 306 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: simple than that, I guess because if we don't do that, 307 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: we just might find ourselves in a mortifying situation where 308 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: we are clearly very bad at owning dogs and when 309 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: that happens, it can bite us lightly on the ass, or, 310 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: if not us, some innocent stranger heading to be struck 311 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: to get a charging cable for his phone. 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