1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: It's not about how far you have to go, It's 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: about how far you've come and continuing to just let 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: yourself know like I can do it. 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily A Body here, come to you live 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: from the AG studio. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: I am so so excited to bring you a special 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: edition of the show this week. You are listening to Hurdle, 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal for 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: and move with intentions so that you can stride towards 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: your own big potential and of course have some fun 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: along the way. Now, like I said, today's episode super special, 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: and that's because it was recorded live at the Chicago Marathon. 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Thanks to my friends at Tracksmith for having me to. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Their pop up inside of the Chicago Athletic Association. I 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: had such an amazing time getting to hang out with 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: some of you Hurdler's irl. Today's discussion is answering some 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: of your top questions about running. I put out a 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: poll or a questions box. I zoom on the socials 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: not all that long ago to get some of your 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: top questions, and we answered them. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: And by we, I mean I can thank my guests. 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: For the show at Cierra Lucas. She's a TV journalist. 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: She's also a trainer and nutrition coach, and congratulations to her. 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: She ran conquered the Chicago Marathon on Sunday and also 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: Phoenix Alazam. 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: She is an athlete. 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: She's a relatively new mom, a certified personal trainer, and 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: the founder of Victory Run Club. So I was in 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: some great company to answer your top running questions. We 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: talk about every thing, gosh, from running safety and nutrition 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: to how to just start, which is a question I get. 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: All of the time. We have a lot of laughs 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: along the way, so much goodness. 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: I do at one point go out to audience questions, 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: which I make sure to reiterate on my microphone so 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: that you make sure to get the audio for that, 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: so have a little bit of patience. 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: But the quality on. 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: This is excellent, the conversation is excellent, and again so 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: grateful for the opportunity to pop up in Chicago. Like 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: I said in Monday's episode, with Jordan Larson. I huge, 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: huge congratulations to everyone. 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: That was out there. 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: And if you have any other questions that we don't 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: answer in this episode, because it would be impossible for 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: us to sit down to answer all of them, the 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: one swoop I would love to hear them. Feel free 52 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: to call in to Hurdle's voicemail and leave me a 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: voice message. The link to do that is in the 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: show notes. With that, let's get to hurdling. 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: You may know me. My name's Emily Body. 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm the host of a show called Hurdle, and I 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: see a few hurdlers in the audience, so I'm so, 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: so so excited to. 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Have you here. 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know about Hurdle, Hurdle 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: is a wellness focused podcast where I talk to everyone 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: from elite athletes to CEOs entrepreneurs about their highest highs 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: and toughest moments. And we're here popping up at the 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: Chicago Marathon this weekend. 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Let's give a round of a plast for the marathon 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: or to borrow. 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: To have a little discussion about questions that we have 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: about running right which we have a lot of them. 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you're a total newbie, if you're 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: a veteran, we all go through all the same things. 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I had a conversation once, I think 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: it was with Ayisha Proutleer, who I actually ran into 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: on my way over here on the street, and she 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: said that one of the biggest misconcerts that we hear 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: from new runners is that they think that expert runners, 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: like are pro runners, pro athletes, don't have any of 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: the same problems that we have as newbies, right, and 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: that is not true at all. In fact, they struggle 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: with a lot of the same stuff that the rest 80 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: of us struggle with. So I do want to say 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: thank you to all of you for coming out here today. 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to have you and I'm so excited 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: to just kind of have an open conversation about all 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: the stuff that we all deal with on the regular. 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: So before we get into it, let's give a round 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: of applause for my lovely panelists that are joining me 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: here today. I've got Sierra Lucas and Phoenix Alaxam. 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: I will let these ladies introduce themselves. 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: I know you know a thing or two about using 90 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: a microphone, So Sierra talk to me. 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: Hi everybody. Thank you so much for having me. Emily. 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: Good to see all of you. My name is Sierra 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: Lucas full time. 94 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: I'm a TV journalist currently based in Columbus, Ohio. Also 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 5: a certified trainer. I've run one full marathon. Tomorrow will 96 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: be my second. Thank you U six half marathons. Used 97 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: to be RELLI into CrossFit. I'm a certified coach for 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: CrossFit and group fitness and a nutrition coach. So fitness 99 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 5: is a huge passion of mine. And for my TV work, 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 5: I do health journalism, so I have a wellness segment 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: and I also speak to experts when it comes to doctor, psychiatrist, nutritionists, 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: always staying on top of the latest health trends and 103 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 5: it's my life and passion. 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. 105 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: Sierra actually reached out to me and met me at 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: a wee work when she was visiting New York. 107 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: Was it's like, so you two years ago, twenty nineteen. 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Cold call, and I'll now look at us here. Life 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: was different. 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: Life was very very different, Okay, and then Phoenix, tell 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: us a little bit about yourself. 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, thanks for having me, Emily. Thank you so much. 113 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm Phoenix. Alazam. I am a health and fitness coach. 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: I've been personal training now for over seven years, also 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: an athlete and a new mom. I've done over six 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: marathons and six full ultra relays, so very passionate about running. 117 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I've kind of started from just a normal background of 118 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: just you know, being a dancer, being an artist. You know, 119 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: I've done so many different things, but running, I feel like, 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: is one thing that you know a lot of people 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: can relate to, no matter what aspects of life that 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you do. So I just really really love helping people 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: get better at their running through strength and through fitness 124 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: and through nutrition. 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: So that's ultimately like what I like to do. 126 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: So nutrition is my passion, and I feel like if 127 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: you can really tackle and own in on that, then 128 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: you can really have a much stronger run to I 129 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: just basing it from the core. 130 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: So that's me and that's kind of what I am 131 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: all about. 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for joining me here to 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: talk about the questions that we have about running. And 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: I got a lot of them when I asked for 135 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: some feedback on the socials. So I want to kick 136 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: us off today by starting with the first question that 137 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: I get from almost every single person in my DMS. 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: How do I run? Sounds like so simple, right, like 139 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: how do I run? Like? 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: What do I do? I don't feel like I can 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: do it. I can't run well. 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: The thing is, as many of you know, because many 143 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: of you associate in that way, is that you can. 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: You just need to believe that you can. So I 145 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: would love to know how do I run? Right that 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: classic beginner question when you started running, Sierra, do. 147 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: You can you relate with that? Did you feel like 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: it was absolutely impossible for you? 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: I absolutely can. I was just telling Phoenix that. 150 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: I really feel like I was late to the game 151 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: when it came to running. I didn't start till I 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: was in college to start recreational running. And as cliche 153 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 5: as it sounds, it really has just been one step 154 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: in front of the others, starting with a baseline of 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 5: how far can I go without dropping to the ground, 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: and then keep going and kind of building your endurance 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: and then really getting into like the nitty gritty details 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: and technical things of how be a good runner. But 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: I think the first step is just it's such. 160 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: A mental game. 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: You just need to decide to lace up your sneakers 162 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: and get out the door and then you're a runner. 163 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: And then you're a runner. What about you when you 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: started running? Did it feel absolutely impossible or did it 165 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: come more easy to you? Oh? 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, for me, it was a little easy. 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: For me. 168 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't always a fast runner, but I always had 169 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: the passion for it. I would say I got into 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: running when I was nine. I have an older sister. 171 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: We were very competitive, and I beat her in a 172 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: race and I realized it was the only thing I 173 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: was better at her. 174 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna take 175 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: it and run with it. So literally, So. 176 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: It's always really been that mind over matter, just like 177 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: knowing like, okay, running is my thing. I may not 178 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: be good at it, but I love it. I love 179 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the way it makes me feel. So as long as 180 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I stay positive, that is what it's going to be. 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: The most important thing is staying positive. It's not about 182 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: how far you have to go. It's about how far 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you've come and continuing to just let yourself know like 184 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I can do it, I can do it. 185 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: So it always starts with the mind. 186 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: So for me, I've always had a very strong, disciplined mind, 187 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: So I think that has been easy for me. But 188 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: now putting that one foot in front of the other, 189 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: that's the challenge. And that's where you figure out, like 190 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: she said, Sierra, the nitty gritty and like becoming a 191 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: good runner, you figure out that later, but first you 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: got to get your mind right. 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that word that we often hear in running. Right, Well, 194 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: she's a really good runner. I'm a really good I 195 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: don't know, I'm not a good runner. 196 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: Right. How often do we use that sentence? 197 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: And the thing is is that that word good is 198 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: so interpretive, right, And you get to make that definition 199 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: for yourself. 200 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Like we each go out. 201 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: All the time and we'll say, like, oh, I had 202 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: a good run, But what makes it a good run? 203 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: A good run can be defined in so many different ways, right, 204 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: A good run could be I went out and I 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: didn't feel pain today, or I went out and I 206 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: ran the whole root, or heck, I went out right, Like, 207 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: sometimes we have to take a step back and say 208 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: to ourselves, wow, Like I have the opportunity every time 209 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: that I lace up to define what good looks like 210 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: for me today, and that might look different today or 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: some of you tomorrow than it did the other day. 212 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: And that's totally totally fine. Okay, so beginners, all of 213 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: us at one point obviously now a couple of marathons 214 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: between all of us under our belt. 215 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: Another question that came in was when did. 216 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: You know that you wanted to run a marathon for 217 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: the first time? 218 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,359 Speaker 2: When did you know? Siah? 219 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: I think I knew after my second half marathon, because 220 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 5: I was crazy enough to do it again, and it 221 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: had to be like either back to back a couple 222 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 5: of weeks or maybe a month after, and I kind 223 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: of just told myself, Okay, you know, let's just double it. 224 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: And I also became really involved in the nonprofit Girls 225 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: on the Run if you're familiar with that. I was 226 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 5: a coach for that group, where it's an after school 227 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: program with elementary school girls, and trained them to do 228 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 5: a five k. And they were so intimidated to run 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: a five k because I mean, they're like four feet tall, 230 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 5: eight years old. It is like a journey. It's a 231 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: marathon for them. And while I was their coach training 232 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: them to do a five k, I just I felt 233 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: like I needed to do more myself. I'm like, I'm 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 5: motivating them to do more. Why don't I train for 235 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: the next thing, and for me, that was a marathon. 236 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: And you're, I mean, you're a handful of marathons in now, 237 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: so do you even remember recall what it felt like 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: before signing up for your first one? Oh? 239 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I definitely remember the exact moment. I was 240 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: twelve years old. I was, yeah, very old. I was 241 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: twelve years old. I was on a Greyhound bus in 242 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: from New York City. It was right after nine to 243 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: eleven happened, and so I was like maybe a month later, 244 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: I was living there, and I remember just seeing like 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: the marathon going down was like passing eighteenth Street in Chinatown, 246 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: and I remember just like asking, like my mom, like 247 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: you know what is this? And then we said, you know, 248 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: it's the marathon. I'm like, well why are people running? 249 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: And like, well for many reasons, you know, for loved 250 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: ones they've lost, or to raise money, to raise awareness. 251 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: And I just remember being on that bus being like 252 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: I have to do this, like I need to do this. 253 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: So but I was too young. So I actually started 254 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: training when I was fifteen, and then I ran my 255 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: first marathon at sixteen, but I had to wait those 256 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: three years to like get to be old enough. So 257 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: it was so much just anxious and anxiety like and 258 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: like excitement built up and I signed up with the 259 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Leukemia Research Foundation and raised all the money I need 260 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: to within like two days, and I was super excited. 261 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: And ever since then, I just kind of amplified my 262 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: love for running, and I just felt like once I 263 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: finished it that I was unstoppable. 264 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: You're one of those whiz kids that we see on 265 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: the course that were like I wish. 266 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Are they were they allowed to be here? Are you good? 267 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: Like that was twenty years ago? So well, I mean 268 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: I said, where's your mom? Just now speaking speaking you? 269 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: You have a relatively new babe. 270 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: Yes, how has being a mom impacted maybe the way 271 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: that you see sport? 272 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: Wow? 273 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, definitely it humbles you. You know, it definitely takes 274 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: you back down to your basics. And I would say, 275 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, before I had my child or my son, 276 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, I was just I felt like unstoppable, like 277 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, nothing's going to break me down. And then 278 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, you go through this experience of giving birth 279 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: and it's amazing, and you know you still feel unstoppable 280 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: and incredible, but then your body's different. So I would 281 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: say the biggest thing is like, he's my motivating factor 282 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: to like be strong and to you know, not get 283 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: so hard on myself and you know, slack off. But 284 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: then also just like you know, having to start from 285 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: scratch again of running and it's it's a humbling experience. 286 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: I would say it's humbling, it's motivating. But he's definitely 287 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: my wise because when he sees me working out and 288 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: kind of training again, he gets so excited and motivated 289 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I just can't wait till you're out 290 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: here with. 291 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Me, you know, So he'll be running a marathon at sixteen, 292 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: I think so, I think so good role model? Right, well, 293 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: I mean what you're speaking about, I uh, it's no 294 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: secret to anyone. 295 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Am very single and without a child. 296 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: But what I will say is that this reminds me 297 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: of what I have dealt with when it comes to injury. 298 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: Which raise your hand in the room if you've been 299 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: injured before, right, love, well, mad love going to the 300 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: back of the room. 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: So listen. 302 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: It is a hard place to be, right And so 303 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: we're talking about you know, getting back on the horse, 304 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: getting back to being active and whatnot. It can be 305 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: really frustrating, so so many questions that came in over 306 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: on social the question how do you deal with injury 307 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: as a runner. It's tough, right, and like we just 308 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: said not that long ago, every day you have an 309 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to redefine what good means, right, and especially when 310 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: you're injured, that is something that you really have to 311 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: take to step back and think about. So to answer 312 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: the question, how do you navigate injury as a runner? 313 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: Have you ever been injured as a runner? Talk to 314 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: me about what that experience was. 315 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: Like my first marathon, I experienced injury because of overtraining. 316 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: I was new. 317 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 5: I was so eager to have my first marathon under 318 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: my belt, and in hindsight, I can recognize how many 319 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: stress factors I had going on in my life, with 320 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: my job, with personal relationships. There was so much going on, 321 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: but I was so dedicated to making sure I at 322 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: least did the marathon. I remember suspending my training in 323 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: like the middle of the summer. Then I caught this 324 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: second wave of energy, so I tried to make up 325 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: for what I missed, ended up overtraining injuring myself. By 326 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: the time I crossed that finish line, I was limping. 327 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: I burst into tears in my Dad's arms. I was 328 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: happy it was over, but I was hurt, and it 329 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: was really just a lesson of no one to take 330 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: a break, no one to rest something you know you're 331 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: learning now, Emily, and. 332 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: Then ask for help. 333 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: This second training cycle has been so different from me. 334 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: I hired a coach. 335 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 5: I have someone looking after me and my workouts and 336 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: checking in with myself of how I'm feeling and making 337 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: adjustments when need be. 338 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that is something that so 339 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: many of us, like running is our at times, like 340 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: our sense of independence, right, And so when you can't 341 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: do it, you can't move your body how you hope 342 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: to move your body, You're like, wow, like, what what's 343 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: my purpose? 344 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: What's my why? What am I doing? 345 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: But really, I would say that sometimes being injured is 346 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: that opportunity to come back to that question and to 347 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: answer that question again for yourself. And also something that 348 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: you talked about that I think is so important is 349 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: the idea of asking for help. 350 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Right. That's hard. 351 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: Asking for help is really hard, and it's really frustrating, 352 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,479 Speaker 3: and again all that anxiety. 353 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: So I can certainly say I've been. 354 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: Navigating coming back from a little bit of a muscle 355 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: strain myself and trying to figure out like who to 356 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: ask for help, how to get over myself, how to 357 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: like put myself out there and be vulnerable in a 358 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: way that we want to be strong and we want 359 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: to be like superman or superwoman or whoever you want 360 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: to identify with, but sometimes you just got to kind 361 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: of like throw your hands up in the air and 362 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: trust the process. So on the injury note, what would 363 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: you what advice would you give to someone who's struggling 364 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: with being injured and not being able to move their 365 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: body how they want to phoenix. 366 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally, I've been there, so I relate to this. 367 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I think it's the best thing that you can do 368 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: is just to maybe humble yourself in a way. And 369 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is we are as athletes, 370 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're always trying to push yourself and you're 371 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: always trying to overcome obstacles and excuses. So I think 372 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: it's just knowing the difference between an excuse and actual setback, 373 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, and not pushing yourself to the extreme to 374 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: where you're going into yourself further that you're going to 375 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: set yourself back even further in your recovery. 376 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: Process. 377 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: So I would say humbling yourself as an athlete and 378 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: just knowing your body, knowing when to throw in the towel, 379 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: and like Sierra says, and you know, ask for help, 380 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: get that guidance, have somebody to help you with the 381 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: things that you're maybe not sure of or don't know 382 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: how to fix yourself. You know. I think as athletes 383 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: we also learn how to kind of cure our own 384 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: problems over the year too, So we think, well, I 385 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: know how to do this, and I'll just train this 386 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: way and I'll get better. But it's not always the case. 387 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: You know. 388 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I tore my lco right after a ten k right 389 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: outside here for Macy's, and I was remember, I was 390 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: so mad at myself because I was training for the 391 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: Speed Project, which is like an unsanctioned race through the desert, 392 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: and so I was like training for that and I 393 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: did this little five or ten k, and I was 394 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: just so mad because I was trying to pr and 395 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean I was like, oh my god, everyone in 396 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: this room, like everyone's like, yes, I've been in this place, 397 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: you know, totally really exactly. So then I had to 398 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: set myself back training. I mean, I still went to 399 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: run it, and then I still went to run the 400 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: London Marathon after that, but then after that marathon, I've 401 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: been out, you know. So now it's been literally recovering 402 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: from injury for the past three years. Because I didn't 403 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: want to just listen to what I already knew. So 404 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: I would just say, you know, humble yourself, listen to 405 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: your body, biggest thing, and just know that that step 406 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: back is only minor and it's gonna make you stronger, 407 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: all right, So don't look at it as like, oh man, 408 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose running progress, I'm gonna be a I'm 409 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be a great athlete anymore. It's like, no, 410 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: you're taking a step back so that you can take 411 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: twenty steps forward. Yeah, And so that's what I say, 412 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Listen to your body and just be humble in that moment. 413 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 414 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: And I think that I actually got a lessoner voicemail 415 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: when I was on my flight yesterday from someone that 416 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: was talking about needing to go under for surgery, and 417 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: she felt like so excited that she had made so 418 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: much progress and like asking, obviously this is the case 419 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: by case basis, every surgery is different, but knowing and 420 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: asking how long am I going to be out for like, 421 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: what am I going to do? 422 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: What? How am I going to recover? 423 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: And the thing is is like at times we all 424 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: go through these moments where you know, we need to 425 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: zoom out, and zooming out is really hard when you're 426 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: in the moment, but if you take that time to 427 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: zoom out and think long term, Like for me, it 428 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: wasn't easy to be like, I'm not going to go 429 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: run this marathon that I've been training for for three months. 430 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: It was actually really sad and I cried about it 431 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: for a really long time. But then I gathered my 432 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, and I this is a PG podcast, did 433 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: I got my I got my act together, and I like, 434 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm better for it now. And I feel that all 435 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: the you know, the adaptations and the changes that I've 436 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: had to make over the last few weeks have really 437 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: empowered me to come back ultimately eventually hopefully stronger and 438 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: definitely emotionally stronger for sure. Now, something we've kind of 439 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: like grazed over a little bit here we're talking about 440 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: marathon prep. A big category of marathon prep. Something I 441 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: know that you both can speak to is nutrition. Oh 442 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: my god, this is like the wild wildlast for a 443 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: lot of people. Right, It's like, I know that I 444 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: need to run, and if I run a lot, I'm 445 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: gonna be able to show up to the start line 446 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: and we're gonna be great. 447 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: But there's a little bit more to it than that. 448 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: So, I mean, Phoenix, reflect on your training process you're running. 449 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: When did you first start to really realize that what 450 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: you put into your body can change all of that 451 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 3: for you? Oh? 452 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely was a couple of years ago, and you know, 453 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I was invited to the Breaking two event in Manza, 454 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: and I really got to sit down and learn from 455 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: all the scientists behind the Breaking two that was working 456 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: with Elliott Kipchogi. And I think prior to that crazy 457 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: incentive week, I knew nutrition was important, but not I 458 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: didn't realize how much it would just change your run completely, 459 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: from regeneration to just staying in it and like not 460 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: really burning out during your run. So I would say, 461 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: when I learned this about what you do pre race, 462 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: post race, and then just that whole recovery process in between, 463 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: just detrimental. I mean I shaved forty minutes off my 464 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: marathon time by focusing on my nutrition, and you know, 465 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: I would say before, like I would do like the 466 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: pasta dinner the night before because that's what I thought 467 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: you'd do. And then I'd wake up and I'd have 468 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: a bar and I'd have a gel, and you know, 469 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: that would be like my morning marathon routine prior to 470 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: this event of learning the importance of nutrition and just 471 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: how specific it is for every individual too, you know, 472 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: making sure you're hydrating weeks before, making sure that you're 473 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: getting the right you know, pre imposts during your runs, 474 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: the right meals that are going to sustain the run. 475 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: And I realized when I would have like a full 476 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: meal that actually lasted me for a long run. It 477 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I didn't burn out, my muscles didn't burn out, which 478 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: then I performed faster and I was able to last longer, 479 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: and that also prevented injuries. So, you know, if you're 480 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the kind of person that just thinks you need sugars 481 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: and carbs the day before you run, you know, really 482 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: just analyze what those sources are, because I feel like 483 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: that's the most important, Like not getting your source of 484 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: carbs and sugar from pepsi or just like bread being 485 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: of bread, like really getting those slow digestive, sustainable carbs 486 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: is going to make you last through that run, and 487 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel so good coming out the other side 488 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: because your body didn't catabalize itself during the process, because 489 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: it just burnt off these simple carbs and sugars that 490 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: you just put in that aren't really sustainable. 491 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: So, like I said, it's all. 492 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Individual to each his own, but you know that whole Like, 493 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: let's get pasta and sugar the night before so we 494 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: have a great run. That's the thing of the past 495 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, And I think really getting 496 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: down to some better nutrition, you're gonna see that you're 497 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna shave so much time and recovery off of your running. 498 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: And I hope that like yeah. 499 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm gonna say what everybody else in 500 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: here is thinking, like forty minutes is a hell of 501 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: a lot of time. 502 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, what are you eating? 503 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: So I mean, so I say my race day breakfast, 504 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: I'd get up a couple hours before and I would do, 505 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, like a multi grain bread with almond butter. 506 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: I'd do bananas, salt, spire allina on there, and then 507 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: i'd do like a high nutbar that's like spirillina and 508 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: algae's I let that kind of digest and then also 509 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: from there, I'll do like my supplements, so I'll do 510 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: some zeiflament for joint support, I'll do some curcumin like 511 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: turmeric for inflammation, and then I'll also do some spirrileena 512 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: too because it's a complete protein. And then like maybe 513 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I was at the time, I was doing like a 514 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Morton gel like our pack, So a nice slow digestive 515 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: carb get up a few hours, let that kind of 516 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: sit in, have your coffee, let that bathroom break go 517 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: in the morning, then get to that race, get your 518 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: mind clear early. And I mean that really just helped 519 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: me staying hydrated every time you pass that water station, 520 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: not skipping it, maybe having to sip and throw it, 521 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: not the full cup, but I made sure I didn't 522 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: skip a water station. Had a little tiny handheld bottle, 523 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: so I was drinking throughout the entire time, so that 524 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: you just constantly stay hydrated. Yeah, you know, the gels 525 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: help a lot. You know, if you can grab the 526 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: bananas on the side. I know a lot of people 527 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: want a pr so they don't really want to stop 528 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: or get off the side of the roads, but you 529 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: really if you figure out how to navigate those little 530 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: moments you're gonna see how much stronger it's gonna boost 531 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: your run, you know. So that's what helped me majority. 532 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: And then the strength training, getting the glutes stronger, that 533 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: really helped too. 534 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: On top of nutrition, we will definitely get to strength 535 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: training in just a second. 536 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: Something that you said here I can totally relate to 537 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: when I came to Chicago a couple of years ago. 538 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: It was really a big opportunity for me a pr 539 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: of about twenty minutes as well. And I also credit 540 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: that too. I say this all the time. I think 541 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: I ate that entire marathon, like I was out there 542 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: having a meal, like I don't remember, Like I seriously 543 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: feel as though I can't remember like more than like 544 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: five minutes at a time where I wasn't forgetting the 545 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: last time that I had some sort of like a 546 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: chew or a gel and I was like, well, but 547 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: I guess it's time to have another one. 548 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: And I was drinking and running and all of the things. 549 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: And so I can totally relate to what you're saying 550 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: about like trusting in the training, but also then like 551 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: reaching for that fuel at the chances that you get 552 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: and know that also, like, you have trained with your fuel, 553 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: right everyone not their head? Yes you have, You've done this, 554 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: You're ready. 555 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: Cool. 556 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: So you have trained with your fuel. You know how 557 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: your body takes that fuel. Trust in that as well. 558 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: Talk to me about your marathon nutrition. What's it look like? 559 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 560 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: Something I wanted to add to that really is we 561 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: know so trial and error. All of us have studied 562 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: exercise nutrition, so we understand the fundamentals of nutrition. But 563 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: everybody is different. So when it comes to what you digest, well, 564 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 5: what's not going to upset your stomach when you're on 565 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 5: the course, Like all of that is so imperative to 566 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: your actual training process. So and another kind of problem 567 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: or something that could be really conflicting, or all of 568 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: the new supplements that are out there. You want to 569 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 5: try everything, especially when we're at those expos and you 570 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: do there's so many like cool just color. 571 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: It's going to Costco. Yeah, like going to Costco. Like 572 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: you want to sample absolutely everything sample these days? 573 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Are those done well? 574 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: Pandemic? 575 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: Oh god god? 576 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: But that's just like Disney World for runners, right, So 577 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: you just want to pick everything up. But the training 578 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 5: process is really when you're seeing what really works best 579 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 5: for your body, And so with my routine, I'm a 580 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: simple bagel with peanut butter in the morning, banana, some coffee, 581 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: get that bathroom break in, and then I have the 582 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 5: choose that I will eat during the marathon. So for me, 583 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: what really works is timing it out. Every thirty five 584 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: to forty minutes, I'm eating a serving of jews. Some 585 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 5: people choose to just hydrate with whether it's tailwind or 586 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: something that is giving them those carbs. I've just learned 587 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 5: that the chows work for me. So like it's so 588 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: trial and eron, I think as long as you understand 589 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 5: the fundamentals of what you're supposed to be fueling your body, 590 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: just trying out different strategies, seeing what sticks, and then 591 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 5: trusting it and sticking with it. 592 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you touched on timing, as did you with 593 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: when you're going into that pre race meal, that can 594 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: be super important to kind of hammer in and home 595 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: in on as well. I love that thirty five to 596 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: forty minute window. That's kind of where I go as well. 597 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: But again to each their own with their body and 598 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: then experts that I've had on the show before. 599 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: I think you said about ninety minutes. 600 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: Between ninety minutes and two hours before you start running 601 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: is a really great time to get in that pre 602 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: race energy, right, So when you have that big meal 603 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: in the morning, it's idea not to like wake up 604 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: thirty minutes before you're going to toe the line, although 605 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: that's impossible to do when you're going out for a 606 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 3: marathon because you've got to be there so early. But 607 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: make sure you're getting in that nutrition about ninety minutes 608 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: to two hours before you run, so that your body 609 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: really has time to do something with it, because that's 610 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: really really clutch. Now, something that Phoenix touched on a 611 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: huge question, so many different ones of this variety that 612 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: came in talking about strength training. I mean, raise your 613 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: hand in here. If you're a runner who knows that 614 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: they could do more strength training. Yeah, I think for 615 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: those listening to this on the feed, every single person 616 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: in this room. 617 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: Just raise their hand. 618 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: It's all of us, and oftentimes we don't prioritize strength 619 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: training until we feel as though we have a reason 620 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: too because things aren't going as we'd hoped, right, and 621 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: not a lot of head nods in the room as well. 622 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: So strength training important not just in that posterior train 623 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 3: with chain, which are those muscles up the backside of 624 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: your body really really critical to running performance and propelling 625 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: you in the direction you want to go, but really 626 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: overall and especially core centric. So Phoenix, talk to me 627 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: a little bit about what your strength training routine looks 628 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: like and if you maybe at one point or another 629 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: shifted that up knowing that it could help your overall performance. 630 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I would say for I would say 631 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: for the average runner or beginner into strength training, not 632 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: necessarily my my routine, because it's going to be different. 633 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, just identifying your weaker areas 634 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: on your body, if you know where you know, if 635 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: you're having a lot of meat issues, a lot of 636 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: hip issues, you know, then kind of identifying where those 637 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: sources are if you have a weaker lower back or 638 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: if you're a weaker you know, core line, and you're 639 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: going to want to start focusing on those. So for me, 640 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: I found that working on my posterior chain really because 641 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I was very quad dominant, so training glutes a little 642 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: bit more three times a week, you know, training hip 643 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: or exercises and lots of the you know, your inner abdominal, 644 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: your transverse and you want to do like your so 645 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: as and like make sure you're doing my fascial release 646 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: and different techniques like that to really get in and 647 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: loosen up those muscles. So I would say those are 648 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: going to be some really important just like minor tweaks 649 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: and details to focus on if you're trying to improve. 650 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: But overall, I think if you can just train legs 651 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: and glutes and core a little bit more during your 652 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: strength training, it's going to automatically improve your run. So 653 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: if you can help support your back, you can work 654 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: on your breathing through training your core, all those little 655 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: things are going to help a lot. And it's just 656 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: different for every individual, you know, but if you meet 657 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: with the coach, they're going to tell you exactly when 658 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: they look at your running and where your experience is, 659 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to identify where you should start. 660 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: So I say the best thing to do is not 661 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to self diagnose. You know, find your you know, one 662 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: of your favorite trainers maybe that you've been wanting to 663 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: work with on Instagram, and you know, just hit hit 664 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: up a consultation and see what you need to improve on. 665 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: If it doesn't go any further than that, then at 666 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: least you get a professional expert at where you should start. 667 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: Right, and that's really important. Uh professional expert. I can't 668 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: highlight that term enough. If you see someone that you 669 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: think is dope on Instagram, they could be dope, irl, 670 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: but they should also be qualified, right, So before you 671 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: put your body in somebody else's hands, make sure that 672 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: they have a background, they have certifications. Don't be afraid 673 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: to ask them what those certifications are. If you're going 674 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: to be giving someone your money and your time and 675 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: again your body and your well being, it is so 676 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: so so important that you make sure that they're qualified 677 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: to help take care of you and guide you in 678 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: the direction that you need to go. 679 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: Now. 680 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: Obviously, as you mentioned as well, everybody is different. 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I 717 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: also did CrossFit fun fact for a few years there 718 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: until I got injured. 719 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: I know, we have a lot of crossfitters in the 720 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: room right now. 721 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 3: What did getting that involved in strength training teach you 722 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: about your body? 723 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: So? 724 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: I kind of I learned the hard way with strength 725 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: training and running with my first marathon cycle, and that 726 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: was when I was really in the weeds with CrossFit. 727 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: I was a coach, I was training I mean dozens 728 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: of people each week, and then I was training myself 729 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: as well, and it was a hard transition to go 730 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: from this really intense strength training dominant to running and 731 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: I stopped doing my strength training as much. But coming 732 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 5: back from that, I really just learned how important it 733 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 5: is to just kind of make adjustments. It's high repetition 734 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: or wait, so I haven't done Olympic lifts in at 735 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: least two years now, Wow TVT, I know, right, those 736 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: snatches are gone, those days are gone. 737 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: It's really just adjustments. 738 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: But especially with the kind of the CrossFit mantra, it's 739 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: functional fitness. 740 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: So I understand that. 741 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: CrossFit does have that certain reputation of what exactly it is, 742 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: but to the very core of it, it's foundational of 743 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: functional fitness. So picking up your groceries are like dead lifts, 744 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: Putting something up on the shelf is like an overhead press. 745 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: You know, these exercise can really translate to your daily 746 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 5: life activities. So it's really having that understanding and just 747 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: making adjustments in my own routine. Now, strength train at 748 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 5: least two three times a week if I'm in season 749 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: for training for a marathon. 750 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's a really good thing to bring up, right, 751 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: because I'm sure the next question is, Okay, how much 752 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: should I be strength training? 753 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: How many days a week should I be strength training? 754 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: What would you advise for that? 755 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: I would definitely still keep it around to at least 756 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: two to three minimum. If you're someone on a more 757 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: expert level, then you can go a little bit higher. 758 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: Just all depends on how much recovery you need after 759 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: your runs, you know, because if you're going to train 760 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: a heavy leg day and then go have a long 761 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: run tomorrow, it's probably gonna be pretty challenging. So just 762 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: making sure that you have those strength training days. Maybe 763 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: you strength train after your run or you know, before 764 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: a long run of the weekend. 765 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: So just scheduling it out. 766 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: I would say at least two days a week minimum, 767 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: three to four days max would be my ideal, and 768 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: you would just do split Sometimes you would train let's 769 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: say glutes and abs, and then you'd go for your 770 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: long run the next day. Then after that you can 771 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: train quads and calves or you know, hamstring. So just 772 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: split training, not going hardcore destroying your legs and then 773 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to run after that, because you're probably gonna suffer 774 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: from some injuries and if you're not, maybe down the 775 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: road it might you know, but that would be my 776 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: biggest advice. Two to three days, split the groups up. 777 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: Don't just go hardcore one day and then like try 778 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: to run. Really just know, like all right, I'm planning 779 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: this out. 780 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, And I mean somebody to keep 781 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: in mind so that you may not know if you're 782 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: relatively new to adding in different types of runs to 783 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: your regular routine. Is that tackling something like an interval workout, 784 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: whether you're on a track or you're on the road 785 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: and you're doing it by time. 786 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: That interval workout. 787 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: Is going to be very similar to doing a leg day, right, 788 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: So you would not, ideally, in your perfect world, want 789 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: to go tackle a track workout on a Friday and 790 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: then go hit your long run on a Saturday. That's 791 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: going to be really hard to give your body what 792 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: it needs to get that necessary recovery. And now, recovery 793 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: a big buzzword here, something we haven't talked about a 794 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: lot yet, but next to nutrition, the secret sauce to 795 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: running an excellent race, or just keeping your body in 796 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: tip top shape for your every your every day. 797 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: So what does your recovery routine look like right now? 798 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: Be honest? 799 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: Oh gosh. 800 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 5: The hardest, the hardest lesson to learn as a runner 801 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 5: is that rest is actually productive. 802 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 4: Sit your button down. 803 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 2: A lot of head nodding in the audience. 804 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 5: So hard, especially because a lot of you are running tomorrow, 805 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 5: so we've been tapering, so you under understand that you've 806 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 5: probably much hopefully had some lighter miles. I think there's 807 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: a difference between active recovery and true recovery. 808 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: So if I'm really. 809 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 5: Having a rest day, I tell myself to sit and 810 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 5: not do any kind of intentional activity. 811 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: But active recovery. 812 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: I love to do something low impact like yoga or 813 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 5: pilates or light spin class or something like that, something 814 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 5: that still is giving me getting me active, but isn't 815 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 5: putting any unnecessary pressure on my joints. 816 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: Smart And there is a huge difference between just recovery, 817 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: plane recovery and active recovery. Also important to know that 818 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: even on your total rest day, it can be really 819 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: helpful to move around a little bit. Right So, if 820 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 3: you're completely like Netflix and Chilling, I have been on 821 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: a sex education binge. I'm on the last episode right now. 822 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: I've literally watched three seasons over the last twelve days. 823 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: I guess that happens when you spend that much time 824 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: by yourself. But what I will say is that those 825 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: two things very different. It's all always really important to 826 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: make sure that you're moving around a little bit on 827 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: your rest day to kind of flesh around that lactic 828 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: acid build up that's happening in your legs and kind 829 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: of keep you moving so that you can feel a 830 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: little bit more comfortable the day after that. What does 831 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 3: your recovery routine look like right now, Phoenix? 832 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm in love with my hyper volt hyper 833 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: ice gun, and that's been on my I didn't bring 834 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: it today, which I'm surprised, but I usually keep it 835 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: in my bag and I use it any opportunity I get. 836 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: But on a day that I would say I'm not 837 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: going to be doing any runs, I love to hit 838 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: like a high incline treadmill walk just really warm up 839 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: and heat up my legs. After that, I'll typically hit 840 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: the foam roller and then finish it off with the gun. 841 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: Once I do that, maybe twenty thirty minutes, I like 842 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: to do a nice long stretch and then I finish 843 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: it back off with the treadmill again. 844 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: So I would say my recovery looks like two hours. 845 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: Oh cash, I mean that was just once a week. 846 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're not doing it every single day, 847 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: that once one two hour session a week, you know, Yeah, 848 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: it goes a long way for me because I feel 849 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: like that's like my only day that I can truly 850 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: get it in, and like sometimes I'm just not even 851 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: motivated to move, So like getting on the treadmill, put 852 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: it up to fifteen percent incline at like a two 853 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: point seven to three point zero speed, it just heats 854 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: up my body where I still feel like I'm getting 855 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: a little heart rate in there, I'm not super stiff, 856 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: and then just start blasting away with that gun all 857 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: over the body, even getting it deep into that so 858 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: as you know, so you can start loosening up the hips. 859 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: That has been like my biggest thing is realizing when 860 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: that's tight, my hips start pinching, my knee starts pinching, 861 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: my sciatica starts to flare up. So keep getting deep 862 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: in there with that little peanut type roller, sticking it 863 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: down deep in there. That just really helps me. So yeah, 864 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: or the or the gun. But you know that vibration 865 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: might be a little weird. 866 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: For well, let's just take a moment to reiterate that again, 867 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: everybody is different. Everybody's different, So find a recovery the 868 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: strategy that works for you. Something that we touched on 869 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 3: but also important when it comes to terms of recovery 870 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: is how you're fueling, but primarily also hydration. Hydration is 871 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: super super important to give your muscles what they need 872 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 3: to recover from these difficult efforts. Also super super important 873 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: to make sure if you're running tomorrow, that you're really 874 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: getting that in today, not just water, but also electrolytes. 875 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 3: Electrolytes help carry the things to your muscles that they 876 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: really need to help you get the hydration that you need. 877 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: They help make you more hydrated. That's their purpose. 878 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 3: So definitely make sure you're kind of getting in whatever 879 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: feels right for you today if you are racing out 880 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: there tomorrow. 881 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: We're talking a lot. 882 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we're sitting here inside with Tracksmith in this 883 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: absolutely beautiful space. A huge thank you again the Tracksmith 884 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 3: for hosting us. A lot of questions come in about 885 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 3: gear and what we're wearing on the run. Right, What 886 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 3: is the biggest rule about race day? 887 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: Sierra? 888 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: Nothing new? 889 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't even that wasn't even planned. She knows 890 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: what's up. 891 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 4: Golden rule. 892 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 2: The golden rule. 893 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 3: So that means that you need to know that you're 894 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: going out there, when you're going on a run, and 895 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: something that makes you feel really comfortable and really secure. 896 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 2: Right. 897 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 3: So, while some person may be able to go out 898 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: there in a player of split shorts and look like 899 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: a gazelle Kara, I'm looking at you, I don't necessarily 900 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 3: feel that way when I wear split shorts. 901 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: In fact, I probably be quite miserable. 902 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: So everyone has a different goldilocks fit as I'll call it, 903 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: that they feel good about wearing when they head out 904 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: on the run. When it comes to the credentials, are 905 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: the things that you think about when you're looking for 906 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 3: your go to kit, so to speak. 907 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: What do you look into? 908 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: I look for at least something that's easy removable. You know, 909 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: in the beginning, you are going to be cold, so 910 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: I do like a little bit more layers in the beginning. 911 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: But I get hot and I heat up really quickly, 912 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I like to either just toss that 913 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: top layer and just forget about it, or you know, 914 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, if you're holding on to it. But typically 915 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: a split short for me and a sports bra, it's 916 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: going to be my go to. 917 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: That's why I feel best in. 918 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: But then I show up cold, so I usually will 919 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: have a hoodie on over and I know by as 920 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: soon as I start running or you know, just getting 921 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: up close to my marker, I just throw it off 922 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: like everyone else does. So for me, like she said, 923 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: nothing new, I've made the mistake of once I ran 924 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: a marathon in this one piece Nike uh just body suit, 925 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: one piece. 926 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one thing for the London Marathon. I was like, 927 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: all right. 928 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: I saw these pictures and it was super bootylicious and 929 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness. You know, I was 930 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: really out here. But they say, if you're gonna do 931 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: the London Marathon, you know, wear something flashy. So but 932 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: that was my first time trying something new and you 933 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: learn that day. I mean, you're just kind of learn 934 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: pulling it out of your spaces. 935 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, don't do anything new. 936 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: So I learn the hardway and I'm going to stick 937 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: to my shorts in my bra I might throw away 938 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: long sleeve. 939 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: And something that I mean we're highlighting here that is 940 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: really important. Whether you're going out just to run a mile, 941 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: a five k, a half marathon, a marathon, whatever you're doing, 942 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 3: is that you're going to heat up on the run. Right, 943 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 3: So when you're heading out there, the experts will tell 944 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: you dress as if it's fifteen to twenty degrees warmer 945 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: than it actually is outside because you are going to 946 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: heat up. But also on the inverse of that, you 947 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: mentioned throwing away a sweatshirt, showing up if it's best 948 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 3: who talking here, we are specifically if it's race day, 949 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 3: show up with some of those throwaway clothes. So that 950 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: you feel like you are equipped to get rid of 951 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 3: stuff and you're not so worried about what happens to 952 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: that stuff. The great thing about a lot of the races, 953 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, we're coming back from a great time in 954 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: our lives right now, but a lot of the races 955 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: we'll have donation bins as well. So all the gear 956 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: that you show up with that you throw away, so 957 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: to speak, won't actually be thrown away. 958 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 2: Rather it'll be donated to a really great cause. 959 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 3: All right, I'm coming back to you now, Guys, I 960 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: feel like you have them. They've been burning deep inside 961 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: of your soul's questions. So the question is do we 962 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 3: uppear on the mic have a piece of advice when 963 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 3: it comes to running that we have a hard time following. 964 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: I'll take this off the bat. 965 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: My biggest piece of advice that someone gave me before 966 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: I showed up to run Chicago a few years back 967 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: was come back to calm. I think about that all 968 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: of the time, not just when I'm running, but in 969 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: that race when I felt like at times like maybe 970 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 3: I was going too fast, or just so many feelings 971 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: as you can relate with when you're running, I just 972 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: literally closed my eyes and took a deep breath, wall 973 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: moving forward and told myself, like, come back to calm. 974 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: And I reminded myself that that calm and those emotions 975 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: are within my my wheelhouse, and they're in my control. 976 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 3: That being said, and like a practical application of saying 977 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: to myself. 978 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: All the time, come back to calm. 979 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's easier than others, right, But that piece of 980 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 3: advice is always really really resonated with me. 981 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: What advice do you have? 982 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: I would say that I struggle with was probably just 983 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've always telling people, you know, the rest, 984 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: you need to get your rest in order to have 985 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: a strong run. And I know I tell that over 986 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: and over again to my athletes, and I think that's 987 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I don't follow either, you know, 988 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: just being busy with my daily life or work. 989 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 2: It's like I don't get enough rest, you know. 990 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: So even the night before the race, I'll be so 991 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: anxious and up until you know, one two in the 992 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: morning realizing like I got to get up, you know tomorrow. 993 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 1: So I felt the biggest thing you do is try 994 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: to find things to calm yourself down and then just 995 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: making sure that you're getting that rest. Because if you're 996 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: feeling rested, you know you've gone out there and put 997 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: in the miles already, like you already know what that 998 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: long run is, right, So that really helps calm you 999 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: in the moment, knowing that you're rested and you've done 1000 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: everything that you could do to prepare. And if you don't, 1001 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, then you're just gonna have to keep giving 1002 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: yourself that positive reinforcement. But that's been my biggest thing 1003 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: is I tell so many people, get your rest so 1004 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: you can regenerate, and I know I probably don't get 1005 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 1: enough that I need. 1006 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? 1007 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 5: I would definitely second that, But also I would say 1008 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 5: it's been hard for me to grasp that there is 1009 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 5: no such thing as a perfect training cycle. 1010 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 4: Life happens. 1011 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 5: Marathon training especially is such a big endeavor, right, and 1012 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 5: things pop up and maybe you have to miss a run. 1013 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 5: And I've had moments where I check in with my 1014 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 5: coach and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I can't do 1015 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 5: this tomorrow. I know the timing's just not gonna work out. 1016 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 5: Should I double up a day later? Something crazy? My 1017 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 5: ration I was off, and I mean, he is to 1018 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 5: tell me relaxed, didn't you just run sixteen miles before, like, 1019 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 5: this isn't going to impact you. So just knowing that 1020 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 5: it's okay to have to take a step back if 1021 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 5: something up and pick back up where you are. 1022 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good piece of advice. 1023 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 3: I think it was Emily Enfeld who said to me 1024 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 3: that every trainding plan is written strategically in pencil for 1025 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 3: a reason, and that we have to have that level 1026 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: of compassion with ourselves and that grease with ourselves to 1027 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: know that things are going to change and that we 1028 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 3: again are responsible for how we react to those changes. 1029 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 3: Who has another question in the audience for me? Alec 1030 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 3: from New York wants to know what we do to 1031 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 3: celebrate a big accomplishment like a marathon. I am a 1032 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: religious burger beer person. That's like the go to It's 1033 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: what I do period. I would say that some of 1034 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 3: my I'm not a late night person. Like last night, 1035 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 3: I think I was sleeping at nine twenty two after 1036 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: a marathon for some reason. I am capable of being 1037 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: out and doing everything until whatever time I so please. 1038 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 3: So I'll be out just consuming large quantities of carbs 1039 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: aka beverages until like at least one or two in 1040 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: the morning. 1041 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: What about you, how do you celebrate? 1042 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: I definitely have my mind on a burger. 1043 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 5: Also why I went dry for the last month of training, 1044 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 5: so I'm like, oh my gosh, I need a glass 1045 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,479 Speaker 5: of wine. 1046 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 2: Ready, she ready, she ready? What about you? Nice? 1047 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: Definitely a good meal, you know, something carb heavy, pasta pizza. 1048 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: That's my But I actually my biggest thing is when 1049 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: I finish a race, I celebrate by sign up for 1050 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: another one. I feel like, you know, you're in that moment, 1051 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: you feel great, you know, well, I usually feel great. 1052 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 2: You know, you feel so good. 1053 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: You're like, you know, you don't want to lose that momentum, 1054 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 1: so you just sign up for the next one and recommit. 1055 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 2: That's usually my celebration right there. I love I saw. 1056 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: I think it was last weekend after London. 1057 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: If you've ever like put your email anywhere near the 1058 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 3: London Marathon website, like you got an email during the marathon, it. 1059 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 2: Was like register for twenty twenty two. 1060 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 3: I think I got pinged with that email like at 1061 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 3: least six times, and I was like, I see what 1062 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: you're doing, Like they are hopping on these positive vibes 1063 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 3: right now. 1064 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. 1065 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 5: So Phoenix actually already registered for another one before tomorrow. 1066 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 4: Register well, I entered for London. 1067 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: Let's go. 1068 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll say, all right, I'll take one more question 1069 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: from the audience. Who's going to be my lucky question? 1070 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 3: Asker person? All right, the question from the audience. Where 1071 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: is your favorite place to run in Columbus. Columbus Hurdlers, 1072 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 3: you are welcome. 1073 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: I feel very special moment for you. 1074 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 5: So I hope you're familiar with this. I love the 1075 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 5: Camp Chase trail, seventeen miles from downtown. 1076 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 4: All the way up to rural Ohio. 1077 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I will start in the metropolitan area and 1078 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 5: then be out in a field on a farm. 1079 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 4: And I know it sounds. 1080 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: As crazy as it is. 1081 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 5: But it's a fantastic trail. It's got hills, it's nicely paid, 1082 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 5: it feels safe. I would go out there with my 1083 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 5: run group and it's a really gorgeous place to run, 1084 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 5: and it's just like a nice one and done. 1085 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: I'm on a path get back and it's nice. 1086 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 3: Love that you've mentioned something that I'd love to touch 1087 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 3: on before we close out here, which is you mentioned 1088 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 3: the word world that made me think about safety. 1089 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: Running. 1090 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 3: Safety is something that I get a lot of questions 1091 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 3: about I know it's something that we're all really focused on. 1092 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: Regardless of what time you're going out there during the day, 1093 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 3: it's really important that we prioritize that. So the question 1094 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: at hand here, what do you do to be a 1095 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 3: little bit more mindful of your safety while you're on 1096 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 3: the run. For me, I'm a big fan of the 1097 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 3: Garmin live track feature. If you've never used it before 1098 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 3: and you happen to use a garment. I know that 1099 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: a lot of other wearables have similar functionality, But you 1100 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 3: can go into your settings and add certain emails or 1101 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 3: people in your contact lists to get a notification when 1102 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 3: you head out for a run, especially when I am 1103 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 3: traveling internationally. Dad's not five minutes away, but it is 1104 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: good for him to know that I start my run, 1105 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 3: I am my run, and I am safe. 1106 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: That's something that I'm super mindful of. 1107 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 3: And then, regardless of where you are, whether you're in 1108 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 3: a metropolitan area or in a rural area, really important 1109 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: to make sure that you're staying kind of in main 1110 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: areas if you're run being super early or super e late. 1111 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 3: So for me being in New York City, I would 1112 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 3: make sure that if I was getting out and running, 1113 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, five thirty at six am, that I was 1114 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: staying on the avenue, so to speak. I wouldn't even 1115 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 3: head necessarily, and this is obviously based on a comfort situation, 1116 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't even head into the park until a 1117 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 3: little bit later where I felt like that was going 1118 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 3: to be a little bit more crowded, especially Central Park 1119 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 3: at points like the lighting is all sorts of messed up. 1120 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 3: You really realize that running in foreign countries, their lighting 1121 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: is excellent and New York does not cater to my 1122 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: overall running safety. 1123 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: But staying in main areas where. 1124 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 3: You're just going to see a lot of people around there, 1125 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: you know will be someone to reach out to if 1126 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 3: something was to go to go awry, so to speak. 1127 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: What safety tips do you have for the run? 1128 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1129 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: I wish I actually, you know, should be thinking about 1130 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: this a lot more. You know, I'm kind of fearless 1131 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: when I go out there. I'm always just kind of 1132 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: thinking of, like, make sure I wear my reflective gear. 1133 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,479 Speaker 1: Since it's so early, I don't get it's a great tip, 1134 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, So I say, the biggest thing I've done is, 1135 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, just wear the reflective gear because I'm always 1136 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 1: thinking about not getting hit by somebody rather than being 1137 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: abducted by somebody. So but I do stay on all 1138 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: the well lit paths until, like you're saying, it's bright 1139 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: enough outside to feel more comfortable doing those desolate trails. 1140 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I train along the lakefront, which is pretty 1141 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: I think there's usually always someone on it, but once 1142 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: you start getting into those really long runs hitting down 1143 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: towards like the south end of the trail, it is 1144 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: a little less crowded over there during the early morning. 1145 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: So for me right now, it's just been wearing reflective 1146 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: gear so that people can see me at all times. 1147 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: But now that I know about that feature on garment, 1148 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to use it. 1149 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 2: Strava has one as well, if you use Strava a lot. 1150 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: And something to be mindful of that we haven't touched 1151 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 3: on yet headphones, Right. A lot of us like to 1152 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 3: wear headphones, like to listen to music or podcasts when 1153 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 3: you're out there running, But if at a certain time 1154 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 3: you might want to be a little bit. 1155 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: More cognizant about what's going on around you. 1156 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 3: You always want to be cognitive about what's going on 1157 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 3: around you, but important to kind of be mindful of 1158 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 3: that in the scheme of things. There are a lot 1159 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 3: of headphones I know after shocks that you can wear 1160 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: and still get a lot of that external noise with 1161 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 3: people lean into. 1162 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,959 Speaker 2: For me, I'm a one air pod runner. 1163 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 3: If I'm going out before like six fifteen in the morning, 1164 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 3: I'll keep one in and keep one out and just 1165 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 3: like be a little bit more aware of what's happening 1166 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 3: around you. Okay, So we're in the home stretch here, 1167 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 3: we're winding down. Before I let you all go today, 1168 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: I do think it's an important moment for us to 1169 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 3: ask us to reiterate motivation. 1170 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 2: Right. 1171 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 3: We all have different reasons why we run, and I 1172 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 3: think that finding that reason and being able to articulate 1173 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 3: that is what's going to keep you coming back. 1174 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: Day in and day out. 1175 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 3: So my question to close us out here today is 1176 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 3: why do you run? 1177 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 2: Sierra? 1178 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, I do it for myself. 1179 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 5: I have found my most powerful moments in my runs, 1180 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 5: my confidence, self worth, just being able to see what 1181 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 5: I'm capable of, and no one can take that away 1182 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 5: from me. And because it's all about me, it's mine, 1183 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 5: I control it. 1184 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 4: And I think that what can make injuries really hard. 1185 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 5: Having to rest really hard, because when you put so 1186 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 5: much value in something like that, it can be really 1187 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 5: difficult to step away from it. But having really intentional 1188 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 5: meeting and action behind your runs is what makes you 1189 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 5: keep going, especially for us that are running tomorrow. 1190 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 1191 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 3: And I think that for me to piggyback on that, 1192 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 3: A big part of why I run is that not 1193 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 3: only do I know that that time is an opportunity 1194 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 3: for me to give back to me, but by doing 1195 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 3: that that I'm better for the other people that I 1196 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 3: want to show up for throughout my day. So even 1197 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 3: especially now kind of having to shift my routine dealing 1198 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 3: with injury, I know that I can replicate that feeling 1199 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 3: and how I show up throughout the rest of my day. 1200 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 3: But just finding something else that I feel like is 1201 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 3: my opportunity to give back to me. So if I 1202 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 3: can't go out and lace up how I want to, 1203 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 3: maybe it's leaving my apartment for twenty to thirty minutes 1204 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 3: in the morning and taking a very intentional, mindful walk 1205 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 3: with like a cup of coffee, right and really having 1206 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: that time to like give back to me the way 1207 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 3: that I feel like running gives back to me so 1208 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 3: again I can kind of keep my head up and 1209 00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 3: keep going throughout my day. 1210 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: Phoenix, Why do you run? What's your why? I love that. 1211 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: My why is discipline, you know. 1212 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I run to stay disciplined, to strengthen 1213 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: my discipline, to strengthen my mind. And I typically when 1214 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: I run, I don't listen to music because I feel 1215 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: like that's my time to hash out anything I'm going 1216 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: through with my day or my week, or you know, 1217 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of check in with myself like 1218 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: you were saying, and just you know, hold myself accountable. 1219 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: So I use that time to just kind of talk 1220 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 2: with myself. 1221 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: Then I also use that as just to keep setting 1222 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 1: my threshold for my discipline higher, because I feel like 1223 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: every time I accomplish a run or hit mileage that 1224 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I've never done before, it kind of just instills that 1225 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: confidence in me that all, right, now, I can go 1226 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: after this life goal and I can go after this 1227 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: job goal because I did this and that can't be 1228 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: harder than this. 1229 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 2: Right. I moved my. 1230 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: Body for hours and I stayed positive during it, and 1231 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: I kept reassuring myself that I can do it, and 1232 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: I did it, So for me, I do it to 1233 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: keep strengthening my discipline and to motivate other people. You know, 1234 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: I feel like running is it's very hard or it's 1235 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest thing that you can put 1236 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: onto your body. And just to be able to accomplish 1237 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: it and do it, I think it's very inspiring and motivating. 1238 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 2: So that's why I do it. 1239 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 3: So I do want to say thank you all so 1240 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 3: much to everyone for coming out here tonight. Thank you 1241 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 3: again to our host at Tracksmith for having us here. 1242 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 3: This pop up is open today until seven, tomorrow until seven, 1243 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 3: and Monday until four. 1244 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen them, their. 1245 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 3: Marathon posters are my favorite thing in the world, so 1246 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 3: see you can snag a spot to grab one of those. 1247 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 2: But again, thank you so much to all of you. 1248 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 3: I really really appreciate you, and you know how it goes, 1249 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 3: another hurdle conquered. 1250 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 2: Got you guys, next time.