Speaker 1: PHP only Famous Perez Hilton.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to the PHP. I'm Booker, He's Perez. As
Speaker 2: we get ready to embark on our what tenth year
Speaker 2: together as podcasters?
Speaker 3: Oh my god it is we're starting year ten? Oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 2: Who would have thought? Would you have ever thought ten
Speaker 2: years ago that I'd be your partner for this long
Speaker 2: on this dumb show?
Speaker 3: No, neither. Well, especially because before we started doing our podcast,
Speaker 3: you had another podcast that didn't last very long.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, that was with a
Speaker 2: friend of mine. But that wasn't my podcast. That was
Speaker 2: actually his podcast, and I was just kind of on it.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to edit it or anything like that.
Speaker 2: What was that? Justin is married? Booker as Single? I
Speaker 2: think was the name of that. But that was a
Speaker 2: fun podcast. You got to dig up to find that.
Speaker 2: Those are good, good episodes. I enjoyed that show. But
Speaker 2: we're gonna relive some moments that have happened over our
Speaker 2: decade together.
Speaker 3: That's what they're gonna do for the entire time. I
Speaker 3: want to listen to this episode.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. Let me give you the first tease.
Speaker 3: Are we listening to it?
Speaker 2: Now? We're gonna listen to it right now. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: this episode, so.
Speaker 3: No, no, are we listening to it while we're recording.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not playing this all back high. I've already
Speaker 2: made the show. I'm just introing the show for everybody.
Speaker 3: Damn it, I wanted to hear it. Now.
Speaker 2: You should download the iHeart ready has been refreshed and
Speaker 2: you can take a listen there. But the first segment
Speaker 2: is fucking gold because this is one of those instances
Speaker 2: where Perez tries to do a good thing but somehow
Speaker 2: ends up with egg on his face.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, it has to do should I tell you? I
Speaker 2: think maybe we'll all just listen together, all right, I
Speaker 2: think you're gonna love the segment. Also, we revisit Heather McDonald.
Speaker 2: Remember she had a moment like she was it for
Speaker 2: a moment and she got into a whole thing herself.
Speaker 2: We're going to go back and take a listen to
Speaker 2: what went down. It was pretty funny. And then there's
Speaker 2: one thing that happened on Patreon that I'm going to
Speaker 2: share here. Oh it's your opinions on Justin Timberlake and
Speaker 2: you light into him and it's awesome. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that I'm sure a lot of you, even
Speaker 2: listeners that listen every week, stuff that you've probably forgotten about.
Speaker 2: But it's utter gold. You guys are gonna love this.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, so have a very happy holiday.
Speaker 2: Buckle in. It's the Perez Helton Podcast with Chris Booker.
Speaker 2: You're about to get some of the best moments ever replay.
Speaker 3: I think I mentioned Lady Gaga that I would be
Speaker 3: talking about her. This is funny to me because I
Speaker 3: was absolutely sincere. I was not trolling. If I was trolling,
Speaker 3: I would tell you you know that sure, there was
Speaker 3: no ulterior motive. It was her birthday yesterday, and I
Speaker 3: just sent her a birthday tweet, a simple birthday tweet.
Speaker 3: I forget what it was, something like happy birthday, lg
Speaker 3: wishing you continued good health. I think I remember it,
Speaker 3: wishing you continued good health and contentment. I thought that
Speaker 3: was just like a nice thing.
Speaker 2: The contentment part at the end is a little weird.
Speaker 2: You're acknowledging that she's not stable in all areas of
Speaker 2: her life, so that's a little shitty, I would say
Speaker 2: a little shitty at the end. I was if I
Speaker 2: was to posh it. Listen, you're asking my opinion. I'll
Speaker 2: give you my opinion.
Speaker 3: Did you not hear me? I said, wishing you continued
Speaker 3: good health and contentment? Right, what like she's got everything?
Speaker 3: That's what I want? Like you know or I guess
Speaker 3: piece is another way of saying it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's an odd choice of word. When you say contentment,
Speaker 2: it's saying that you haven't been content and looks like
Speaker 2: maybe you are for the moment. It's I'm telling you, ye, shady,
Speaker 2: it's not sent Okay, you're saying that it's not. I
Speaker 2: believe you that it's not. I'm just trying to see
Speaker 2: how someone could possibly think that there's some undertone to it.
Speaker 2: It's that word. I'm just telling you that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I think contentment is a great word. Wouldn't you want
Speaker 3: that for your life?
Speaker 2: First of all people, no one says that. No one
Speaker 2: says continued contentment. I say that, I know, But you're
Speaker 2: a whack job. That's saying that you've had some sort
Speaker 2: of issues.
Speaker 3: She has. She's been very public about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not what you put in a birthday message.
Speaker 2: You don't bring that up.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 2: That's why people are thinking it's a little shady.
Speaker 3: Or continued peace or continued prosperity, whatever, it's all similar.
Speaker 2: Prosperity would have been a better word, but contentment acknowledges
Speaker 2: that she wasn't always content.
Speaker 3: But I think it's important to acknowledge that continued prosperity
Speaker 3: has to do with like money, right, So I wouldn't
Speaker 3: I purposely didn't choose prosperity because she's already got all
Speaker 3: the money in the world.
Speaker 2: Why are you arguing with I'm just telling you, well,
Speaker 2: just trying to tell you why someone would say that
Speaker 2: sounds a little shady. I'm just explaining it to you.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you think that way. I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to let you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't say peace because that's just lame to me.
Speaker 3: I don't continued peace. I don't know like a continued
Speaker 3: prosperity that's financial. I thought continued contentment, like, wow, she
Speaker 3: seems like.
Speaker 2: A really disparity doesn't necessarily mean financial.
Speaker 3: Most people think prosperity is a financial adjective. I would
Speaker 3: say anyways, I said that I was sincere. There was
Speaker 3: no shade intended whatsoever, And like ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: the people that saw my tweet and responded were sending
Speaker 3: me like hate, like full on hate, which is funny
Speaker 3: because you know, Lady Gaga preaches kindness and all of
Speaker 3: these things, and then her fans are like for sending
Speaker 3: a really what I thought was a kind message.
Speaker 2: This is how hypocritical the internet is. They want you
Speaker 2: to stop hating a and they want you to embrace
Speaker 2: the whole idea of we should not have gun violence
Speaker 2: in this country. That's out of one side of your mouth,
Speaker 2: and on the other side of your mouth, it's like,
Speaker 2: fuck you, you asked White Perez Hilton, go fuck yourself
Speaker 2: and dot that's the juxtaposition of the Internet, and that's
Speaker 2: why it's funny, stupid, It's all fucking stupid. They should
Speaker 2: just unplug the fucking Internet.
Speaker 3: Thankfully, I've been doing what I do for seventeen years
Speaker 3: and it does not get to me, sincerely. It actually
Speaker 3: is just a talking point for the podcast, so thank
Speaker 3: you to them. And speaking of the podcast, I have
Speaker 3: put just like I was talking to my therapist about
Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago, like that I put
Speaker 3: the final nail in the coffin of me having another child. Well,
Speaker 3: maybe not totally, but ninety nine percent never gonna have
Speaker 3: another child unless I hit the lotto and win three
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. But that likelihood of that happening is
Speaker 3: like less than one percent, right.
Speaker 2: So I would say a lot less, But yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot less.
Speaker 3: God, you have to like nitpick everything, Jesus, Well.
Speaker 2: Out of one hundreds are pretty good.
Speaker 3: All right, Fine, one percent of one percent of one.
Speaker 2: Percent, keep going.
Speaker 3: I'm doing the same thing with regards to our podcast.
Speaker 3: There is one percent of one percent that our podcast
Speaker 3: will ever be anything more than what it is, just
Speaker 3: because we live in a society that's gotten even more
Speaker 3: and more about being as safe and vanilla as possible
Speaker 3: and canceling everybody.
Speaker 2: pH P replay, pH P replay Patreon Exclusive.
Speaker 3: This is where I could say things that I won't
Speaker 3: share with the general public, Like right now, when we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about Justin Timberlake, this motherfucker I.
Speaker 2: We already have a different take back. Oh one sentence,
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 3: A different Okay. I don't hate him, but I dislike
Speaker 3: him so much that if he came up to me
Speaker 3: and ask for a photo, I would say no. And
Speaker 3: I'm the biggest fame, horror, there is so at his
Speaker 3: show last night, I don't know what song it was
Speaker 3: leading into, okay. I didn't want to presume because I
Speaker 3: only saw that was okay, I only saw the clip
Speaker 3: of him talking, but leading up to crimea River. When
Speaker 3: he was introducing that song, he said, I'd like to
Speaker 3: take this opportunity to apologize to absolutely fucking nobody, and
Speaker 3: that you think it's funny. He he thinks it's funny too.
Speaker 3: I think it's a major dick douchebag, asked, Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Listen, somebody can say stuff that's douchey, but I can
Speaker 2: still find it humorous and funny. And to me, this
Speaker 2: is a home run funny and a brilliant move. I
Speaker 2: want you to continue. You think it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: I think I read it as how desperate is he?
Speaker 3: He is so desperate that he feels he needs to
Speaker 3: do this a douchebag, lame click, baby, surefire, attention, getting things.
Speaker 2: You're the king of that. I know what we love
Speaker 2: when people do that. You almost contradict yourself, because that's
Speaker 2: why I'm saying it's genius. He's got very little heat.
Speaker 2: As you went over the reasons, that he does. And
Speaker 2: that's the world we live in, Okay, Like his song
Speaker 2: isn't as bad as whatever you chart you reported on
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 3: It isn't.
Speaker 2: It's got more heat than that. It really does to me,
Speaker 2: And this just does nothing but helps it out. It
Speaker 2: just makes people say, does he have a new song?
Speaker 2: I want to go check it out?
Speaker 3: But does he? I mean, I guess he has. He
Speaker 3: feels he has to, and you think he does too.
Speaker 2: I don't think he has to do that, but I
Speaker 2: understand him doing that. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3: But the thing that's like, if it was any other
Speaker 3: scenario other than the only way to also interpret this
Speaker 3: is as a diss to Britney Spears. No, yes, oh
Speaker 3: come on, come on, it's the only way people most fine,
Speaker 3: not the only way, not the only way, but most people,
Speaker 3: most the majority, And you're gonna think the masses are asses.
Speaker 2: I don't care, No, no, no, he's talking about her. I
Speaker 2: don't believe it's a dis.
Speaker 3: How else can you interpret it?
Speaker 2: I think maybe we're using the wrong words here. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's talking about her, But here's my honest thoughts.
Speaker 3: It's like he's saying, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's saying that. Now I'm taking that to the
Speaker 2: next step. Why is he not sorry Because all of
Speaker 2: the things that are being alleged or said are made up.
Speaker 2: Some of them are some of the big bullet points
Speaker 2: might be, and they're very, very hurtful to him because
Speaker 2: they make him look like a dick, and they may
Speaker 2: not be true, because the musings are of someone that's
Speaker 2: not all together. I'm not one of these dipshits that
Speaker 2: believes every I'm not a disciple of her stupid book
Speaker 2: like it's the Bible, like it's a to truth.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying that because of Britney spears. He's
Speaker 3: just a dick.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can think that all day long, and I
Speaker 2: kind of you know, he gives me the douche shows too,
Speaker 2: But we got to park that for a second. I
Speaker 2: think the guy has every right to be upset if
Speaker 2: things have been said about him that are not true,
Speaker 2: and he has taken the high road the high road. Also,
Speaker 2: let me finish, he took the high road all along
Speaker 2: said nothing. Then she puts out a book and then
Speaker 2: she pours it on. He's pissed. He's like puts his
Speaker 2: hands up in the air. And goes you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm not sorry anymore. I'm not sorry to anybody. I'm
Speaker 2: tired of this. I think that's his right as well.
Speaker 2: It's and to your point, yes, he's still do she Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I still wouldn't have done it because I would say,
Speaker 2: continue to take the high road.
Speaker 3: And it's also the timing of everything. It literally comes
Speaker 3: just days after Britney apologized, Brittany was sorry, Brittany took
Speaker 3: the higher road, and now he's doing this dick, douchebag.
Speaker 2: I can't argue against the fact that this doesn't reek
Speaker 2: of doucheiness. Yeah it does. It totally does. It's headlined
Speaker 2: getting and this and that. But maybe it goes back
Speaker 2: to the very first thing that came out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: And I actually agree. Maybe he just thinks he's funny. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm serious, I really I think I agree with just
Speaker 2: that part of this, that he's like, this is funny.
Speaker 2: Underneath all of the high road things that he's maybe
Speaker 2: has done or hasn't done. This just takes you right
Speaker 2: back down to douchebag. I can't disagree with that, but
Speaker 2: I can understand if some of the things alleged we're
Speaker 2: not true. A lot of the things even we're not
Speaker 2: true and have been just piled onto him, onto his
Speaker 2: plate at his expense. I too understand that.
Speaker 3: And just to reiterate, my thoughts are not even related
Speaker 3: to Brittany. I just I mean, even remember just a
Speaker 3: few years ago that quasi cheating scandal with his wife.
Speaker 3: He's just a fucking douchebag, period, full stop.
Speaker 2: All right, It's really hard to argue against it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is in full on desperation mode. It
Speaker 3: was like a one two punch. It was obviously calculated.
Speaker 3: He did this and then the other thing he did,
Speaker 3: which I said he would do. He's teased more in
Speaker 3: Sync music. He's going back to that. Well, he said
Speaker 3: there may be a little something in the future, and
Speaker 3: that in Sync has been in the studio.
Speaker 2: I saw that with Kelly Clarkson. And by the way,
Speaker 2: it looks amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was pre diabetic, she said, so she
Speaker 3: had to get in shape because of that.
Speaker 2: Good for her, she looks amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when I did a little I did
Speaker 3: a little post yesterday about you know, getting in shape,
Speaker 3: not because I'm pre diabetic. I'm just vain. I want
Speaker 3: to look good. It's pure vanity, like aesthetics for me. Right,
Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald got into some drama. Was a regular on
Speaker 3: the Jeff Lewis Show and was on vacation in Palm
Speaker 3: Springs over the weekend, staying at the house of a
Speaker 3: former housewife, Kelly Dodd and her husband. It's pretty complicated,
Speaker 3: so I'm trying to simplify. This woman that is friends
Speaker 3: with Jeff Lewis and is on his radio show apparently
Speaker 3: doesn't like not even apparently doesn't like Heather McDonald. Had
Speaker 3: never told Heather McDonald before that she didn't like her,
Speaker 3: which I think is a good thing, Like why do
Speaker 3: you really want somebody telling you I don't like you
Speaker 3: or whatever? I don't know, but it all boiled over
Speaker 3: or kicked off because they were all going to be
Speaker 3: like possibly cohabiting for the weekend because Kelly Dodd at
Speaker 3: her house, Heather McDonald was staying there Friday night, and
Speaker 3: then this other woman who is not even like a
Speaker 3: known person, she was going to stay there on Saturday.
Speaker 3: But then the woman was like, oh, is Heather going
Speaker 3: to be there the whole weekend? Blah blah blah. Why
Speaker 3: does this woman not like Heather? I think she doesn't
Speaker 3: like Heather because of jealousy. Yeah, that's it. But the
Speaker 3: other woman and claims that Heather's like a friend, poacher, friends, stealer, blahh,
Speaker 3: which is like, you know what some insecure people probably
Speaker 3: do worry about or complain about or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: Is she bitched about this on her show. No, So
Speaker 2: how did this get out?
Speaker 3: There was a lot of liquor involved in prom springs
Speaker 3: at Kelly Dodd's house, and this other woman got drunk
Speaker 3: and let Heather McDonald know how she really feels about her.
Speaker 3: So that happened Saturday night or Saturday sometimes Saturday. Then
Speaker 3: the next day came and Heather was expecting the other
Speaker 3: woman to apologize because she said really hurtful, awful things.
Speaker 3: She didn't apologize, and then I think by Sunday evening,
Speaker 3: Heather decided to do an emergency episode of her podcast
Speaker 3: Oh Boy, and talked about what happened, which is something
Speaker 3: that I would absolutely do as well, or emergency vlog
Speaker 3: or whatever. So Kelly Dodd and her husband, this former
Speaker 3: Fox News personality, they have their own podcast and they
Speaker 3: talked about it as well. And I do not like
Speaker 3: that Kelly Dodd woman at all. But I found all
Speaker 3: of this drama interesting, especially because the mainstream media did
Speaker 3: not pick up on it and they haven't written about it.
Speaker 3: Because like, if Heather McDonald were a housewife, if she
Speaker 3: were on you know, Real Housewives of Beverly.
Speaker 2: Hills, not exactly a household name. We know her because
Speaker 2: we're the entertainment industry, but she's got a great fan base,
Speaker 2: but she's probably not a big clique. Kelly Dodd is
Speaker 2: probably a bigger click.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Heather McDonald were on the Housewives show and
Speaker 3: all of this went down, different story, Yeah, it would
Speaker 3: get a lot of attention. But Kelly Dodd, the former housewife,
Speaker 3: and her husband, the former Fox News personality, have their
Speaker 3: own podcast, and they said that it was I could
Speaker 3: not I believe this they accused. So, first of all,
Speaker 3: they acknowledged that what this other woman did to Heather
Speaker 3: was bad and inappropriate and crossed the line and she
Speaker 3: went too hard. But then they said what Heather did
Speaker 3: by releasing that episode, that that was bullying the other woman.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, shut up, Yeah, that's so stupid. If
Speaker 3: something happened to you, you are absolutely entitled to share
Speaker 3: your truth and the experience.
Speaker 2: It's your story, yeah, and it's you're part of it.
Speaker 2: And it's not like these people don't know what she
Speaker 2: does exactly and vice versa. Okay, it's like, this is
Speaker 2: what these people fucking do, So send a bouquet, send
Speaker 2: some fucking fruit. I mean, even if there was a
Speaker 2: headline one, it's worth it. We're talking about it exactly.
Speaker 3: Although I still don't even know that other woman's name
Speaker 3: because I don't listen to the Jeff Lewis Show, nor
Speaker 3: do I watch.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Jeff Lewis is. I think I do.
Speaker 2: Is he a comedian?
Speaker 3: No? No, I think he's like some interior designer.
Speaker 2: Oh that guy. Oh yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2: You're right, he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he used to have a show on Bravo,
Speaker 3: and I think he got a show somewhere else after
Speaker 3: leaving Bravo. But he's still affiliated with Andy Cohen. He
Speaker 3: has a show, a radio show on Radio Andy on
Speaker 3: Sirius Gotcha. And now I don't know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen because all these people were supposed to go on
Speaker 3: a fancy vacation together. I hope Heather can get her
Speaker 3: money back. I probably would not go on that vacation.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, back up, Why wouldn't you because you
Speaker 2: because that woman and her friend set up the vacation.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it was that woman and her friends putting
Speaker 3: it all together. You know, they like chartered I think
Speaker 3: a boat or this or that or the other. Like
Speaker 3: I don't know all the details of the vacation.
Speaker 2: She should just go just to piss them off. Gives
Speaker 2: her content for her show. Why not?
Speaker 3: I would say, I'm definitely team Heather. And like I said,
Speaker 3: you know, like with that gossip reporter Rob Shooter. People
Speaker 3: know Heather McDonald has a podcast. I don't view her
Speaker 3: talking about it as anything wrong, especially because that other
Speaker 3: woman she had way more than enough time to sober
Speaker 3: up and realize that she Even if you don't like somebody,
Speaker 3: here's the gist of it all. Even if you don't
Speaker 3: like somebody, you can be like, you know what I
Speaker 3: think going forward, we should not spend time together. Or
Speaker 3: I really am hurt by this that, but even that
Speaker 3: that's not a good thing. I would have framed it
Speaker 3: like this and that and the other that you've done
Speaker 3: has hurt me and I need to protect my peace.
Speaker 2: But when you say, it's professional courtesy that if you're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about somebody and you get some information from somebody,
Speaker 2: you have a conversation about it. Because there are many
Speaker 2: times I share stuff with you or you'll share things
Speaker 2: with me, and you know it doesn't go past that.
Speaker 2: Is there a little bit of a it's almost like
Speaker 2: a friend code or a profess code to spill the
Speaker 2: beans on some of this stuff, because I get it
Speaker 2: alcohol is involved, but you still have that this isn't
Speaker 2: for the show of business, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Now, if somebody really hurts you, and according to Well,
Speaker 3: when Heather talked about it on her podcast, she started crying.
Speaker 2: No boy, and then.
Speaker 3: Kelly Dodd when she was talking about it, she mentioned
Speaker 3: that Heather was in tears, and Heather said that this
Speaker 3: woman said the most horrible, awful things about her, you know,
Speaker 3: And I get it. If somebody's drunk and they don't
Speaker 3: like you, like you're gonna go hard. You could some
Speaker 3: people would go hard or whatever. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: And you know what, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: this is only a positive for Heather McDonald. Now now
Speaker 3: she knows that woman is fake, she doesn't need to
Speaker 3: be around that person, and hopefully this drama might have
Speaker 3: helped get her more listeners.
Speaker 2: And well, and I'll take it a step further. It
Speaker 2: put her in that house wife world which she probably
Speaker 2: so desperately wants to be on an in, so it's
Speaker 2: nothing but a win for her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 3: she's got her husband, and she's got two kids that
Speaker 3: are really normal, it seems like, and doing well. You know,
Speaker 3: I think one of her kids work with her, and
Speaker 3: you know, I say that all the time. Family is
Speaker 3: really what matters most. So perspective. When talking to one
Speaker 3: of my gaze I said basically the same exact thing.
Speaker 3: When the du Alipa Houdini song came out, I liked it,
Speaker 3: but I didn't love it. However, but you feel.
Speaker 2: Like she needs to take the next step. And I
Speaker 2: hear that song and I'm like, this is kind of
Speaker 2: almost It's still fine, but it almost is kind of backwards,
Speaker 2: like she started out with such great pop music and
Speaker 2: this actually isn't as good as like New Rules, that
Speaker 2: was such an interesting song.
Speaker 3: But I still enjoyed Dua Liipa's Houdini way more than
Speaker 3: Ariana Grande's Yes.
Speaker 2: As of right now, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've picked up on this, but
Speaker 3: there's been a big backlash to the song with regards
Speaker 3: to the lyrical content. A lot of Arianna's fans are
Speaker 3: upset that basically she's showing no remorse and is once
Speaker 3: again making a song like break up with Your Girlfriend
Speaker 3: that many people think is not apologetic for taking a
Speaker 3: man that's in a relationship. And I'll go back to
Speaker 3: what I said a while ago, I don't necessarily think
Speaker 3: that that will negatively affect the song.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean, Well, it just means that
Speaker 2: if you're a real fan of somebody and you start
Speaker 2: to see the you know, the cracks in the armor
Speaker 2: of the person, and it's coming out through the music
Speaker 2: and it leaves you with a little bit of a
Speaker 2: sour taste in your mouth, that is the beginning of
Speaker 2: the end of your fandom. And it happens maybe you
Speaker 2: liked her when you were young, and you're growing up
Speaker 2: with her and you're like, hey, I'm not so much
Speaker 2: into all of this, and I gotta be honest. I
Speaker 2: bet Taylor Swift went to the same thing. I think
Speaker 2: there were probably a lot of people that were like
Speaker 2: enough with going back to the well of ex boyfriends
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I think it's just.
Speaker 2: Part of anyone's growth and what it is they're trying
Speaker 2: to get to. And I'd said it way back, I
Speaker 2: said that there's gonna be a lot of people that
Speaker 2: are gonna be put off by her. And I also
Speaker 2: agree that you and I both said if a song
Speaker 2: is great, people are just gonna like the fucking song.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just how it works.
Speaker 3: But I feel like the same thing about the song
Speaker 3: that I do about the music video. If you haven't
Speaker 3: seen the music video, it's basically a remake of Paula
Speaker 3: Abdul's cold Hearted music video, which is one of the
Speaker 3: best music videos of all time. How unoriginal. She basically
Speaker 3: copied Vogue and then copied cold Hearted for the music video.
Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone that's in her fan base
Speaker 2: even knows what a Palla Abdual video looked like. We do.
Speaker 2: That was our wheelhouse, But I think everyone bites off.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Gaga bit Madonna, and we've seen
Speaker 2: it time and time again with pop stars. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's just cyclical and you know, hey, that
Speaker 2: worked for someone else, Let's see if it'll work for me.
Speaker 2: And no one seems to call anybody out on it
Speaker 2: or care because it comes down to what you just said,
Speaker 2: is a song good or not? I don't think a
Speaker 2: video means anything to anybody anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 3: It's just emblematic of the not very creative, this new era,
Speaker 3: that's all I'm saying. Replay with the Olympics also going on,
Speaker 3: Kanye was trending more than anything else. What do you
Speaker 3: say about that?
Speaker 2: People love a train wreck. Everyone knows who he is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means people are very invested
Speaker 2: in him. It's just like you always say, people love drama.
Speaker 2: This is drama. It's a family imploding, and it's ugly
Speaker 2: and it's nasty, and people like to celebrate that. They
Speaker 2: like to go to this garbage pale called online and
Speaker 2: they go there and they assemble and they pile on
Speaker 2: and they got to give their two fucking cents and
Speaker 2: that's what's happening. So does that mean that care about someone?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's two Maybe those are
Speaker 2: two different things. They're enjoying the drama. But did they
Speaker 2: really care about Kanye. If they did, they wouldn't participate.
Speaker 2: So that's my answer.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, for some reason, Kanye included me in
Speaker 3: the drama, which I was so thankful for.
Speaker 2: He was so excited it made my year.
Speaker 3: It's all so bizarre to me. Kanye posted me on
Speaker 3: his Instagram. He took a screenshot of a video that
Speaker 3: I posted about my CBD gummies. Really yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 3: even talking about him and there, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I thought he was commenting on one of the clips
Speaker 2: that we pushed out this week, and I was sort
Speaker 2: of pro Kanye. My whole rap was last week was
Speaker 2: that look, just take down the fucking TikTok, and I
Speaker 2: was on his side. So my assumption was that got
Speaker 2: to him and he's like, yeah, Perez is on my side. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: you're not. You've been a against him the whole time,
Speaker 2: and I'm the one fucking person that was like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's give the guy a break on this one.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be really honest with you all because
Speaker 3: I like being honest. For the last few days. Prior
Speaker 3: to that, I had been trolling Kanye, so whenever he
Speaker 3: would post something on Instagram, I would have it. I
Speaker 3: would leave like a ridiculous comment. I wasn't being mean
Speaker 3: or nasty, but I was leaving it a stupid comment.
Speaker 3: So the day before he posted some photo of a
Speaker 3: guy that had like a face tattoo, and I said,
Speaker 3: I remember what I wrote. I don't remember what I
Speaker 3: wrote on all the other ones, but I said, oh,
Speaker 3: you should get a face tattoo. Kanye Kim loves face tattoos,
Speaker 3: now I hear. So maybe he just saw one of
Speaker 3: my comments on one of his posts. Yeah, And he
Speaker 3: posted me on his Instagram and he wrote the following.
Speaker 3: He said, Perez, I want my family back, sending love
Speaker 3: to you and all your staff. I thank you in
Speaker 3: advance for your support. And he deleted that with in
Speaker 3: an hour, which upset me so much.
Speaker 2: But she got your screen grab and I told Perez,
Speaker 2: who cares if he takes an up or down? I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a litany of garbage that he sends out all
Speaker 2: day long. Who's gonna be digging back to find it? Nobody?
Speaker 3: Well, he did. He did address that. He's like, people
Speaker 3: complain that I post twenty times a day, but a
Speaker 3: media outlet or a channel or whatever will post twenty
Speaker 3: times a day and people aren't criticizing them, I mean apples.
Speaker 3: Just Kanye, well, you know, he's like, I'm in a
Speaker 3: very image media outlet. He's trying to control his image,
Speaker 3: is what he's trying to do.
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows what he's trying to do,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: He even posted photos yesterday of himself holding a sign saying,
Speaker 3: my account was not hacked. It's really me. One of
Speaker 3: my favorite things though, is like, well, he went and
Speaker 3: he had his Sunday service, and then he took his kid,
Speaker 3: two of his kids, I believe, to the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: and Judd Apatow, the writer director, was seated like a
Speaker 3: couple of rows behind Kanye, but was able a two
Speaker 3: rows behind Kanye and could hear Kanye talking, and he totally,
Speaker 3: you know, outed Kanye. He said that Kanye was because
Speaker 3: he was Kanye was wearing a mask at the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: covering his face, and he was having a hard time breathing,
Speaker 3: and he was complaining to his friend. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: we should have put more vents in here or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then eventually he did take the mask off, and
Speaker 3: it was just ridiculous. I mean there's just so much
Speaker 3: Kanye it's exhausting. Kanye is the new Brittany. And what's
Speaker 3: interesting is I highly doubt we will see Kanye West
Speaker 3: put in a conservatorship. I'm not saying I think he
Speaker 3: needs one, but a lot of people out there are
Speaker 3: saying that. However, we live in a society, in a
Speaker 3: system where I think things like that happened to women
Speaker 3: more often, not going to see Kanye put in a
Speaker 3: conservative and a psychiatric backup.
Speaker 2: So why to women more often? I don't understand that rap.
Speaker 3: Like because of the sexists.
Speaker 2: Okay, but a lot of people say that it was
Speaker 2: sexist that Britney Spears was put into a hold or whatever.
Speaker 2: Britney Spears, if she was a man would be dead.
Speaker 2: She'd be dead, okay, because usually a man, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: come to a man's aid or help. They would let
Speaker 2: him run off like they're running letting Kanye run off. Okay,
Speaker 2: somebody had the wherewithal to say, hey, this woman's in distress.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing that happened to her. I think
Speaker 2: it may have saved her life. You don't think what
Speaker 2: was going on with her could have ended her life.
Speaker 2: I think it possibly could have. So this whole thing
Speaker 2: that like some man is keeping her down, some people
Speaker 2: got together and decided to help save this woman's life. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's why the emergency put her in one in the
Speaker 2: first place. Like, I don't really necessary believe that rep
Speaker 2: in this case for Kanye, because Kanye.
Speaker 3: Because has Kanye.
Speaker 2: Endangered himself or anyone? That is my question that I
Speaker 2: asked to anyone.
Speaker 3: He has repeatedly made violent threat He's repeatedly online saying
Speaker 3: stupid shit whether they're violent or not.
Speaker 2: You're not the judge and jury on that, You're just not.
Speaker 2: He's never claimed that he's going.
Speaker 3: To hurt someone or he's gonna shoot someone, threatened violence
Speaker 3: repeatedly against Pete Davidson.
Speaker 2: I think these two are two high school kids. Well,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that about Pete because I don't see
Speaker 2: him participating as much.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a stand up comedian social media, right.
Speaker 2: He's gonna make right like, he's gonna make jokes about
Speaker 2: it because he's a comedian. That's what he does. But
Speaker 2: I don't see anything at a level where anyone's concerned
Speaker 2: for Pete Davidson's safety in anything that Kanye is doing.
Speaker 2: Kanye is acting a fool. That's what Kanye is doing. Now.
Speaker 2: Is he doing anything that's threatening harm to himself for family?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. I don't know. And if people
Speaker 2: want to claim that that's cool, I'm not keeping up
Speaker 2: with it because I have this thing called a fucking life,
Speaker 2: So I'm not really like out like wondering what Kanye
Speaker 2: is up to every five seconds. But you can't just
Speaker 2: throw that out there like they're gonna throw him at
Speaker 2: a conservatorship, and it's because it's sexist, like what, I
Speaker 2: don't understand that rap? I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: Do you think Kanye is going to be placed in
Speaker 3: a conservatorship?
Speaker 2: Do I think? I don't know? Like I said, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's real. What's him acting a fool? Is
Speaker 2: there any harm that he's threatened upon himself or anyone
Speaker 2: around him? He seems to be very much in control
Speaker 2: of everything that he's doing. Look, I haven't seen him
Speaker 2: out on the one oh one driving in the wrong
Speaker 2: direction with kids in the car. I haven't heard of
Speaker 2: anything like that. I've never heard of him breaking the law.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of him fighting someone. I've never heard
Speaker 2: anything that warrants him.
Speaker 3: Well, he did attack that paparazzo.
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen how the paparazzo behaves sometime, and I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think it's not that I would ever conduct violence,
Speaker 2: but I can understand why he may go after someone.
Speaker 2: Those people are they have no tact, they have no class,
Speaker 2: and they're there to try to egg you on. They're
Speaker 2: pieces of shit mostly. I mean, I've been around some
Speaker 2: of these people. They're awful. They just want their picture,
Speaker 2: their leeches. So once again, I don't think that that's
Speaker 2: a great example.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Kanye has been all over.
Speaker 2: The place that is not debatable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from everything to demanding that Billie Eilish apologize Travis
Speaker 3: Scott or he wouldn't perform at Coachella. I'm like, don't
Speaker 3: perform at Coachella. Right, Thankfully, Billie Eilish did not apologize.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, you know, she gave a fan
Speaker 3: and an inhaler and she didn't even mention Travis Scott.
Speaker 3: She just said, I wait until my She said something
Speaker 3: on the lines of like I wait, oh, here you go.
Speaker 3: I wait for people to be okay until I keep going.
Speaker 2: She's a something and did something. She did the right thing.
Speaker 2: She didn't mention anything, She just reacted to a situation
Speaker 2: that happened to her. Now Kanye wants an apology once again.
Speaker 2: It's nonsensical wasting time on watching all of these moves.
Speaker 2: Is like, I feel badly for you that this is
Speaker 2: what your weekend is. You're sitting there and participating and
Speaker 2: trolling people, and it just seems like a pathetic existence
Speaker 2: to me. I mean, it was a beautiful sunny weekend.
Speaker 2: I mean, get outside, enjoy yourself, turn off the outside.
Speaker 3: I did. I had a great weekend. Kanye was also
Speaker 3: dissing Kid Cuddy, saying he won't be on the new
Speaker 3: Donda two album because of his friendship with Pete Davidson
Speaker 3: and YadA YadA YadA. Kanye is having a show next
Speaker 3: week in Miami and allegedly his new album is going
Speaker 3: to be ready by next week. We'll see about that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's weird, like in a way music does music even matter?
Speaker 3: Like Donda the first Donda.
Speaker 2: Where You're going is exactly right. The music at this
Speaker 2: point is a side show. And it's so unfortunate because
Speaker 2: this guy was such an incredible producer and he made
Speaker 2: such interesting cutting edge He made such advances in hip
Speaker 2: hop when everybody was doing one thing and sampling and
Speaker 2: doing the same crap over and over. Kanye was very
Speaker 2: inventive and did some really wild things and made some
Speaker 2: amazing eight to eight and Heartbreaks. It is just one
Speaker 2: of the best albums ever and it was all really imaginative.
Speaker 2: And that's why we're talking about him, because he gave
Speaker 2: us such great art. But now the music is no
Speaker 2: one even gives a shit what's gonna come out next.
Speaker 2: No one's even going like, hey, I'm interested to hear it.
Speaker 2: It just is lost in the crap of the mountain
Speaker 2: of shit that comes out of him. It's honestly, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you keep up. I don't know why
Speaker 2: you'd want to keep up like he just it's all
Speaker 2: just nonsensical ridiculousness to be.
Speaker 3: Kid Cutty responded, saying he doesn't care if he's not
Speaker 3: on the album and blah blah blah blah blah. He
Speaker 3: even was like bringing Ariana Grande into all this drama
Speaker 3: and mac Miller. He shared this rumor that's not confirmed
Speaker 3: that allegedly Pete Davidson sent mac Miller some nude photos
Speaker 3: of Ariana Grande to kind of dissuade mac Miller from
Speaker 3: getting back together with Arianna alleged. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: Kanye was posting that, and.
Speaker 2: That's my point, Like, at some point, Peeses, don't you
Speaker 2: put your fucking hands up and go, I'm done talking
Speaker 2: about this fuck that's discussing.
Speaker 3: Even if it's true, it's just people are the ones
Speaker 3: to decide, and I don't think people are quite there yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I think everyone is aware
Speaker 2: of the side show that's happening, but I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone is invested in the side show that's happening. It's
Speaker 2: like there's a fire raging. Okay, you can't go, Hey,
Speaker 2: that fire is not there.
Speaker 3: You know it.
Speaker 2: You're not sure why it started, you're not sure if
Speaker 2: they're fighting it, You're not You're not even sure, but
Speaker 2: you're like, you know that the fire is happening. And
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of where people are delving into
Speaker 2: the nuances of it, how it started, who is the
Speaker 2: person that did it. I don't think people are invested.
Speaker 2: I guess that's where I am with this, because I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm starting to fade. I'm faded, like Kanye on
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 3: It might be just you. I don't know this Raiders dee.
Speaker 3: What does d E stand for?
Speaker 2: Defensive end? You would have never got to that one. O.
Speaker 3: This Raiders player has become the first actively playing NFL
Speaker 3: player to be openly gay. And I could not help
Speaker 3: but think of Coulton Underwood because it's not like a competition,
Speaker 3: It's not like who can come out better or whatever.
Speaker 3: But this guy came out and he made a one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars donation to the Trevor Project, which is
Speaker 3: a suicide prevention organization for GBTQ youth. And then on
Speaker 3: the flip side, Colton Underwood had lied to all these
Speaker 3: people and was allegedly abusive to his ex girlfriend and
Speaker 3: didn't donate.
Speaker 2: Shit on somebody else. Just report the good moment, all right,
Speaker 2: such a bitchy gay you really are.
Speaker 3: You're just the bitchiest.
Speaker 2: Gay of all time. Rude. His jersey is now the
Speaker 2: number one selling jersey in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Not only did his coming out and not hurt his career,
Speaker 3: I think it actually helped him. So that was awesome.
Speaker 2: Replay.
Speaker 3: That's it. That was, That was that was I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie I haven't listened to it yet.
Speaker 2: That was something that was something I have listened to
Speaker 2: it and those are some great moments right there. I'm
Speaker 2: glad you all made it to the end.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for many more moments to come. Here's
Speaker 3: to ten more years.
Speaker 2: Wow, could you imagine? Well, Happy holidays everybody. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for listening and supporting wherever you do. We
Speaker 2: do appreciate each and every one of you. And Happy
Speaker 2: New Year, Happy New Year.