1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: Ladies and Jules. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well buckle up. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: Sweet cheeks. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: What we've got all the experience in the world. This 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: is I want your flex with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Mike and Dan break down everything you need to set 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: your lineups, from position rankings to starts and sits. The 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: guys help you make those hard decisions. And now let's 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: get your flex. Ond Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: Here it is Super Bowl Edition. If I want your flex, 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: hit Mike ibat Swollendow. 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So one game left Niners Chiefs. 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: When we found out this matchup, guys, was there anything 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: or has there been anything that has swayed your opinion 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: with how this is going to play out from when 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: we found out that it was going to be a 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: rematch to Super Bowl fifty four a week and a 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: half ago on that Sunday night, Has anything changed your 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: mind over the last. 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Week and a half that would change your prediction from 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: this game? 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: I think just the over abundance of legacy talk can 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 5: kind of get me angry at some point to where 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 5: I want it to be about the game and not 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 5: about some fictional list of where guys rank and what 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 5: they're all about and everything. But in terms of the 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: actual game, not really. I mean, maybe maybe a little bit, 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: just kind of looking at the Niners a bit more 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: for their path of getting here and trying to figure 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 5: out how Steve Wilkes and that defense changes what they 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: were and the identity they'd become down the stretch. I 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: think that's that's the biggest thing for me, right Kansas 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: City playing some better football, the guys in the playoffs 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: actually catching the ball, something they struggled with. 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: Obviously. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 5: We talked about that all season long, with the forty 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: four drops and all. So I think that's just it 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: for Steve Wilks and company, the toughness up front, and 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 5: that when we hear the names of Bosa and Chase 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 5: Young and whatever, it's not because of some fun answers 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 5: about getting brock prety tattooed on them, but more so 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: that they're actually making plays on the field. 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll go ahead versus go ahead. 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: I think for me it's overall and nothing's really changed 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 6: in terms of the way I'm kind of viewing these 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 6: two teams coming into this game. I think the only 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 6: thing is it's just kind of the very the very small, 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 6: well it's not that small, but it's just kind of 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 6: been a footnote throughout the week, and that's Joe Toney's 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 6: health status, only because it kind of gives me flashbacks 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: to a couple of years ago with the Chiefs Bucks, 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 6: where the big issue with the Chiefs was how their 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 6: offensive line was really banged up coming into that game, 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 6: and that Bucks defensive line then just ran train on 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: mahomes and companies. So I think that's the only thing 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: is where I keep seeing that note as like something 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 6: where gives me a little bit of pause, because really, 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 6: if the offensive line is not at full strength, it's 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 6: a much bigger issue than people seem to realize. 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: I would have said, dominated burse you used a different 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: phrase to uh, you know, but. 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: I enjoyed that that was good. 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: Because if you listen closely, you heard exactly what he said. 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it was now they were down both of 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: their tackles. So I think you can mask some of 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: the stuff with the guard maybe, you know, and protect 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: some of that, but against the Bucks, it was a 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: free for all, and you know, I just, I mean, 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: I have a pick in this game. But if there 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: was an area that was a bit sus it would 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: be that forty nine Ers defense. 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt about that. 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: And it's just it's not the one that we thought 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: that it was previously. I know, like we know, we 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: know all the names, right, but then you also saw 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: what Jordan Love did to them and what uh, you know, 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: obviously with what the Lions did to them. George Kidder 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: wants to point out that, you know, all of their 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: you know victories were you know, by a touchdown or more, 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: and you know, YadA, YadA, YadA, but they gave away 82 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: you know, you could score on them. 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: It's basically the point. 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: And it's just not like the Domigo Ryans Robert solid 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: defense that I thought that you had previously. 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to clean that up is certainly the thing. Look, 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 5: if Patrick Mahomes has to run sideline to sideline for 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 5: another five what was it five oh two or whatever 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 5: the official count was after the game, then yeah, then yeah, 90 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be a mess. Obviously, a little change up. 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: You know, some components on the Chiefs defensive front as well. 92 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: But you know, we we've watched and that defense getting 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 5: it to run. It's certainly something the three of us 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 5: have harped on all year, and Smith and I in 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 5: the evenings, you know about how good and the defense 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: has played to carry you know, Mahomes and company to 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: this point and that now it's basically their time to 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 5: grab the ball and see if they can't make some 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 5: hay and take things over. But you know, you're looking 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: at odds if you're you know, since you're there in Vegastan, 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 5: you know, with all the MVP odds, you want to 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: have some fun. You know, you got a couple of 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: defenders off the chief side and certainly seven niners side 104 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 5: where you're getting some major payoff if you decide to 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 5: go long shot away from the offense, thinking there's going 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 5: to be something defensively that tips the game. 107 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: You know, I joked, I did a call with our 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: affiliate in Fargo, North Dakota sixteen sixty the Bison, and 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: I joked at if Isaiah Pacheco scored six touchdowns, it'd 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: still give the MVP to Patrick Mahomes for his amazing handoffs. 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: But you're but you're right, Like, if you look at 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: last year, there's a play in that ballgame where, if 113 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: it's not overturned by replay, Nick Bolton has two defensive touchdowns. 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: And those are the things that can end up changing 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: a game. And I mean, heck, they gave it. They 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: gave Jacoby Jones, you know, the short nun of the 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: stick in Super Bowl fifty seven. He had two of 118 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: the bigger plays that you could have in a game 119 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 4: that gave the MVP to Joe Flacco that year. It's 120 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: tough to wrangle it from from the quarterback's hands, but 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: if you have where the ball bounces your way, yeah, 122 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: I think there's I think that there's some fun in 123 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: going with a defensive person in that sort of contest. 124 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm gonna play any bets though 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: on it. I'm not that I'm not that strong. Plus 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: anytime I just lose any amount of money in you know, gambling, 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: at any point, I. 128 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Just it dwells on me. 129 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys are in betting or 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: in gambling if you're sitting down at a table or 131 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: at a machine. 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: But it eats at me. 133 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: I walked past the guy at a machine today that 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: had thirteen thousand dollars. 135 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: It is slot machine like it was. 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: Just nicely like that's just not a world that I 137 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: am familiar with, you know, It's just it was crazy. 138 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: I just you know, me being I am not a 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: not a gambling man at nature, and there's just a 140 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: whole other world that just to me is it does 141 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: not resonate with me, and it's just so unfamiliar. 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 6: Yes, I've had times where I'd be on a blackjack 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 6: machine up one hundred and fifty and then I end 144 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 6: up walking away up eighty and then I'm just mad 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 6: because I'm like, I fuck, I don't. So yeah, there's 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: there's that level of uh. And and also like at 147 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 6: the times where I have been in states where sports 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 6: betting is fully legal, Yeah, I there's always a point 149 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: where I'm like, God, it is it's good that this 150 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 6: isn't legal in California because I would be in trouble 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: if it was. Like there's there's so many times where 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 6: it's just like I think I'm going to make great 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: money and I don't. 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: Fall In all of the states where we talk about 155 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: the lack of revenue opportunities, Hi, mister Governor, I have 156 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: a proposition for you over here. Yeah, I generally get 157 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: to the all right, it just means I have to 158 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: work another day, Right, I didn't cash out. It's like 159 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: why I don't play and buy scratch off lottery tickets 160 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 5: or whatever else and bursh. 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: You know. 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure you've got plenty of guys around the office 163 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 5: and friends of yours that'll give you a VPN address 164 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 5: to help you get connect the dots, to get you 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: over that finish line. 166 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: Of it into But I don't know. 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: It's just always we were going to the racetrack as kids, 168 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: and you know, through your adults that were with you, 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: you were playing some paramutual wagering. 170 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: So it's always been in the blood. 171 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 5: You know. The key is not to get the fever right, 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: and I think that's what happens when folks touch down. 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: If you're you haven't done it before, then it feels 174 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 5: like you've got to bet everything. Right, you go to 175 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: the racetrack the same thing, and then out there in 176 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 5: Vegas if the rest of the year you're not touching it, 177 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: suddenly you're at the ATM at twelve oh one paying 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: twenty bucks to get your money out of the ATM. 179 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Do you get the same rush like yeah you do, 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: oh sure, yeah? 181 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 182 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 5: I mean like look, everybody hates, you know, a loss, 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 5: does it eat No? I mean occasionally when we see 184 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 5: you know, bad like this is where officiating comes in 185 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: or whatever. And again like bursh, you know, being in California, 186 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 5: I guess uh. And I'm not one that has gone 187 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: down the tunnels at this point to go and still 188 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: bet while I'm not in a legal state, but you know, 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: there's still the rush of it. 190 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Right. 191 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: It's like when we predict stuff that goes right, there's 192 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 5: juice to it. Sometimes you'd like there to be some 193 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: money attached to it, There's no question about that. And 194 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 5: when it goes wrong, you know, you feel it more 195 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 5: cuz you know you you were invested enough or got 196 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: sold well enough to go make a move right. It's 197 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: why I understand if people get really mad at us 198 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 5: when we make a fantasy prediction that goes wrong. Probably 199 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: convince someone to go in and maybe put a little 200 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: bit of of either cash behind it or it's going 201 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: to affect where they stand, you know, if their league's 202 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: playing for stakes. Now, I would argue I did my 203 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: job if I convinced you to start a guy over another. 204 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 5: So so I've got that in my back pocket. But 205 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 5: by the same token, I understand where that rush comes, right, 206 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: nothing ventured, nothing gained, and whatever. You know, It's why 207 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: when you buy a bunch of merch of your favorite team, 208 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: you know you feel that much more invested, right because 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: you voted with your dollars. I think same thing you 210 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: know in your bets, the conviction of not only the 211 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: strive to go make your riches and maybe build your 212 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: own hotel, casino sphere that you can go climb over 213 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: in Vegas, that you're also looking at the the idea 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 5: of saying, hey, look how smart I am. And I 215 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: think that's part of the appeal of it too that 216 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think it gets enough do right. 217 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: I think there's all often we talk about the dollars 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: and cents of it, Dan Ryan, but I think there's 219 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: just the I've got a ticket that shows I got 220 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: this right. 221 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, yeah, I love being right. 222 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: No, exactly right. So that's it. 223 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I do the scratch offs. 224 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: I play the game first, and then if I win, 225 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: then I scratch off the money. Ah See, you know, 226 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: like I like to be surprised at, like oh, I'm 227 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: a winner. 228 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: How much am I going to win? And it usually 229 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: just says ticket. 230 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 5: Do you usually do you do the game show voice 231 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 5: in your head after you've scratched off and you've won 232 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: the game. 233 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: I don't. I'll tell you what is a rush though. 234 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: There are certain scratch offs and we'll take it. Then 235 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: we'll get back to the actual Super Bowl. You know, 236 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: there are scratch off tickets that are like they win 237 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 4: on every line, but they may only be like five dollars, 238 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: and there's twenty lines and you win one hundred dollars 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: or something like that. But there's if you do it 240 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: that way, you're like, oh my goodness, And it's only 241 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: happened to me once and again the only prize money it. 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Was just five dollars, five dollar, one dollars. I got 243 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: a ten dollars scratch off. But that is a rush 244 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: like no other. 245 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: You're just like, oh, my goodness, am I holding a 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: winner of fifty dollars or could be fifty thousand dollars. 247 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: I used to work at a truck stop gas station. 248 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys knew that out of 249 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: high school. 250 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,239 Speaker 5: No, but this now becomes the rest of the podcast. 251 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: Screw the game. Out of stories of this or gotta 252 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 5: be legendary. 253 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: There was there was a guy who had come in 254 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: every two weeks because he knew he got paid and 255 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: he would buy milk, cigarettes and like two hundred dollars 256 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: worth of scratch offs and it was it was crazy, 257 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: like just that was that was his life. But working 258 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: there and not this guy, this other guy that came 259 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: in a bunch got a got a game where he 260 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: won like four thousand dollars on a scratch off ticket, 261 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: and it was just like so cool to see, you know. 262 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: So I wasn't even a winner and I got a rush. 263 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 4: So we're talking about rushes and seeing that that's you know, 264 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: it wasn't even mine, and I'm like, that's it's pretty awesome. 265 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: But there's something to it, right right Why people gravitate 266 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: to Vegas for March madness, Like I've been there in 267 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 5: those in those circumstances, Buzzer beaters, particularly those first two 268 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 5: days are just insane because every shot, every miss, every 269 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: foul call, people are living and dying. Like you could 270 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 5: do a documentary just on people that are hanging out 271 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 5: in those spots. Uh and and just watching the EBB 272 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: and flow and then the inevitable flood of tickets that 273 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: go flying in or around the waste baskets because of 274 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 5: the action that they had on I don't know, it's 275 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: it's one of those things. I get it that you know, 276 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 5: we always uh, you know, proceed with caution, right and 277 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 5: be smart about what you're betting at all. But uh, 278 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: certainly there there are a few things in our day 279 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 5: to day lives for us, non dear devils out there, right. 280 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 5: I'm not, you know, doing a bunch of ziplining. I'm 281 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: not diving out of airplanes. But if I can decide, 282 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: you know, plus two and a half and see how 283 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: smart I am for three hours, that's a pretty good 284 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: investment of my money in time. Because that's the other 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: part is that it's not just the result, it's how 286 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: you get there. And yeah, you may be angry at 287 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 5: yourself at the end, but you still got three hours 288 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: of entertainment. It's like going to see a bad movie 289 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 5: or sitting on your couch and watching some bad TV. 290 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: Eventually you look around and go, what the hell did 291 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: I just do with that time? You made the investment there, 292 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 5: Now it's just dollars instead of time in your life, 293 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 5: you'll never get back. 294 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: We hope everyone enjoys this podcast. We are going to 295 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: take a time out. He's Mike Carmon. Ryan Berschinger is 296 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: our executive producer. I'm Dan Byer in Las Vegas getting 297 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: ready for Super Bowl fifty eight. I know you don't 298 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: want to talk a lot about legacy, but I am 299 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: curious about the coaches in this situation, Kyle Shanahan and 300 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: Andy Reid. Plus there are a couple of prop bets 301 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: that will go around the room and pick in advance 302 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: of the game. The Big Game, right, it's the Big 303 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: Game showing up at the Big Game. I always love 304 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: that in commercials. Anyway, we'll talk about it all next year. 305 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: And I want your flex. It is, I want your 306 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: flex legacy wise, not player wise, coach wise, Mike, Kyle Shanahan, 307 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: Andy Reid, who's the most intriguing figure of the two 308 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: gentlemen who will lead their teams onto the field in 309 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty eight. 310 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think kindred spirits with Andy Reid, 311 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: just you know, sized scope and all of those things. 312 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: Going back to the kick pass punt competition video that 313 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: will no doubt make its way into circulation again here 314 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: as we get to the weekend, the guy who's had 315 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: two big careers, because remember he couldn't win anything back 316 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: in Philly, And eventually they clapped hands in Vegas blackjack 317 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 5: dealers style and walked away. 318 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: From each other. 319 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: But for Shanahan, it's time to show you can win 320 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 5: a big game right out, scheme out coach, make rock 321 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: pretty better than whatever term folks want to apply to 322 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: a game manager, whatever else goes on there that your offense, 323 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 5: offensive prowess, cansult this chief's defense, like, it's all of 324 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: those things. I think for Shanahan, I mean, look, Reed's 325 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: got his pelts on the wall. You win another one here, 326 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: maybe we changed the conversation, and you know, for the coaches, 327 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 5: I find those more intriguing because the way the game 328 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: changes over time, that you're navigating that kind of path. 329 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: So for Reed it's cool. 330 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: But for Shanahan, yeah, it would be another almost for 331 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: him in a career full of them. So while we 332 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: celebrate coaching trees and all of those other things, it 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 5: would be another loss in a big game. 334 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with Mike. I think with with Andy Reid, 335 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: it's kind of he's already very much in that conversation 336 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: of among the greatest of all time because of the 337 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 6: amount of Super Bowls here and this another one of 338 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 6: course very much adds to that. It makes his legacy 339 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: very pressive, but it also is kind of a stat 340 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: patter at this point with with Kyle Shanahan, it's it's 341 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 6: entirely about getting one because I know, Dan, you're you're 342 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 6: sitting extra Rob Parker right now, and he has been. 343 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: Among them on the forefront. 344 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 6: Oh okay, but he's you know, he's he's around he's 345 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 6: he's he's around the corner there in Vegas and he 346 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 6: but he's he's been at the forefront of being incredibly 347 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 6: uh critical of of Kyle Shanahan in the because of 348 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 6: the fact that he hasn't been able to win the 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 6: big game, and quite frankly, his coaching this postseason thus 350 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 6: far hasn't exactly been fantastic. I mean, yes, the the 351 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 6: Niners got it together and were able to overcome that 352 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 6: second half deficit with the Lions. But we talked about 353 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: in the Packers game, like there were decisions that the 354 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 6: Niners were making they were pretty baffling. The the entire 355 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 6: lack of effort at the end of first half to 356 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: put to put a touchdown on the board when they 357 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 6: when they were already behind the eight ball against the Packers, 358 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 6: it didn't really make much sense the play calling that 359 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 6: they were going with. So Shanahan I think very much 360 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 6: needs this because this is now time to really and 361 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 6: especially against the Chiefs, like if he can chalk it 362 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 6: up as a win over the Chiefs, like then all 363 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 6: those conversations criticizing what he can do in big games, 364 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 6: whether or not he can he can truly win, whether 365 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 6: he is one of the best coaches in the league, 366 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 6: those conversations then kind of fall by the wayside. You 367 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: get one and it really does wash everything away. 368 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: It's it's funny because and this is maybe not the 369 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 4: best example, but Phil Michelson would always push the line 370 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: in terms of his comments. He would always push, you know, 371 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 4: push it right to the edge. And then when he 372 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: made the comments prior to joining liv Golf about you 373 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: know what they were gonna do, it completely crossed the 374 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: line that he didn't realize could be crossed. And I 375 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: feel that way with Kinle Shanahan in a sense where 376 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: and I feel we've all been a bit critical. 377 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I know that Burst wants to give Rob Parker all 378 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: of the flowers on this one. 379 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: No, I'm kidding, but I've wondered as well, like what 380 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: at what point do you become that guy that just 381 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: can't get it done or you know, has the system, 382 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: but the system only takes you so far, and and 383 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: and so I think that that is. That is obviously, 384 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: you know, a thing that's talked about, but still he's 385 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 4: thought of as a genius throughout the league. 386 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the four championship games. 387 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: You know, tough to match for what they've had, you know, 388 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 4: over the over the last five years or whatever. 389 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: But in the end, you have to win. 390 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: Now, in saying all of that, the only reason I 391 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: preface that is because I think if Andy Reid sticks 392 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: around and all this retirement talk happens. 393 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: He's only if he wins on Sunday. 394 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: He's on only six back of Belichick in career playoff wins. 395 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: He's only seventy back of Shula for the all time 396 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: win mark. 397 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: And we think, like Belichick is is the guy like 398 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: Andy Reid if you stick around for another six years 399 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: and average ten wins a year, which isn't out of 400 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: the question when Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback, like this 401 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: is this could be another building block into the greatness 402 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: of the resume of Andy Reid. And it's crazy to 403 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: think he's completely wiped out being Andy Reid Eagles at coach, 404 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: like all of his chiefs accomplishments have totally you know, 405 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: went over that. I just think like Ady Reid, like 406 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: in a in a bigger scale, can continue to build 407 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: that foundation to really be thought of as one of 408 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: the absolute great coaches that we've ever seen in the NFL. 409 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 410 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 5: I mean it look eight double digit win seasons with 411 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 5: the Eagles, and most folks that are tuning into the 412 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: NFL this weekend, unless you put up that as part 413 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 5: of a montage, don't recognize how great some of those 414 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: teams were with Donovan McNabb and how how many big 415 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 5: runs they had and then he just couldn't get over right. 416 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: You got tarall Owen's playing on a broken leg and 417 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 5: all that stuff going back to. 418 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: The Super Bowl that they did make. But it is 419 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: one of those things. 420 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 5: And Andy Reid going to be sixty six here in 421 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: about a month's time that you look at the run 422 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: and I got to think that for the most part, 423 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: as long as you've got old number fifteen upright, and 424 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 5: we had a nice cookie from the local bakery they 425 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: made them, you know, in the jerseys of Mahomes and 426 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: Kelsey and Purdy and all the party had way too 427 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: much icing on it. I think they screwed that one up. 428 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 5: But the fact is that you're looking at a guy 429 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 5: that it makes it a lot easier to say, Man, 430 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: I want to ride this thing out right for all 431 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 5: the retirement talk, mean, why would you just hang it 432 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 5: up now? 433 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: Like, unless you. 434 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 5: Got something else that really is compelling you to go 435 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: into a different path. You want to go just hang 436 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 5: out on the island and eat Tommy Burgers and whatever else. Otherwise, 437 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: like you're potentially at the helm of one of the 438 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: greatest runs. 439 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: Of all time. 440 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: You're looking at a defense that's got a lot of 441 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: component parts that are signed up for a while here 442 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: and young in a reinvention, and you know you can 443 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 5: rebuild that offense alongside Pacheco and Rice and obviously Mahomes. 444 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 5: Whatever Kelsey does, and I don't know, you can always 445 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: have the argument of how. 446 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: Much does he have left? 447 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: Because there's all the retirement talk for him as well, 448 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: which I think is nonsense. He's kind of dismissed it 449 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 5: a bit, but it still swirls out there. But yeah, 450 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: the opportunity, especially with Belichick currently parked on the sideline, 451 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 5: is there to really cement your place in a whole 452 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: other level. And you know, we do it with players 453 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: all the time. You know, going back to Shanahan just 454 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: really quickly, it's the right he was unfortunate enough to 455 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: play in this era. Certainly in the NBA we have 456 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 5: that you had the unfortunate occurrence that you played in 457 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: the Michael Jordan prime era. I think for a lot 458 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: of teams AFC, and even if it's a one game 459 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 5: showdown in the Super Bowl, you have the unfortunate task 460 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: of trying to take down Mahomes and Read and whatever 461 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: else banda Merriman they bring to the table. 462 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: I do think that, you know, when we have looked 463 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: back over the last twenty years or so, it did 464 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: help that Peyton Manning went. 465 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: To a couple of Super Bowls. Ben Roethlisberger went to 466 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: a couple of Super Bowls. 467 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: You know, Philip Rivers is always trying to knock on 468 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 4: that door the Ravens broke through. I'm about up to 469 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: here with the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. You know, 470 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: like Joe Burrow broke through a couple of years ago. 471 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 4: That's awesome, But I do not want to see Kansas 472 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: City in Super Bowl fifty nine. 473 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: No, that's it, right, Yeah, No, we were talking about that, right, 474 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: that saturation point. 475 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: We talked about it a lot, Dan, you and I 476 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: first here on the podcast. Right, it's that saturation point 477 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 5: we had that the flashpoint with the Warriors. Right, it 478 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: took two years. All right, I'm done with it. But 479 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 5: then they were around the heat when they formed. I 480 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: didn't care much about the decision show. The only thing 481 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: I cared is like, look, you guys did became the villains. 482 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: You have to embrace it. Otherwise, you know, you're setting 483 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 5: yourself up for some madness. And then you had a 484 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 5: four year run where they were in the finals every year. 485 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: It's like, all right, go away, Like I want to 486 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: see something different. I want to see a breakthrough. And 487 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: to your point, yeah, with the Chiefs, I think you 488 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 5: know when we talk about quote villain, that's that's really 489 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: the main thing of it all, is that, all right, 490 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 5: I want to see something different. 491 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely, I definitely do. 492 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: Because there are gonna be people, there are gonna be 493 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: people who are, as Harvard loves to say, hate watching, 494 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 4: and that's gonna be on Sunday, all right. 495 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: He's Mike Carmen, that's Ryan Bursinger. I'm Dan Beyer. 496 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll wrap this up with some 497 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: prop bets and some predictions for Super Bowl fifty eight. 498 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: And don't forget even once the game is. 499 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 4: Done, we're gonna have another episode of Eye wat Your 500 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: Flax that will give you our top sixty p for 501 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 4: fantasy football for the twenty twenty four season. That's going 502 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: to come out after super Bowl fifty eight. So while 503 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: the football season may be over, we're already looking ahead 504 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: to the next season. But again, we'll wrap up this 505 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: episode with some prop bets in our super Bowl picks 506 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: next year on I Want Your Flex, all right, prediction time. 507 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: Not that anybody make care, guys. 508 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's actually going to go to 509 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: the betting window with my pick. Maybe yours, but I 510 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: don't know they're going to go with mine. We are 511 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: going to make our predictions. We start with Mike Harman 512 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: at Swollen Dome. Mike, how do you think it plays 513 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: out in Super Bowl fifty eight? 514 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 5: Now, as we record, Dan and Ryan, I still see 515 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: it as a two point line. So after some early 516 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: movement as we record, still sitting there forty seven and 517 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 5: a half to total, I am going to go against 518 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 5: the grain. 519 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: And maybe it's tit watching. 520 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. 521 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 5: Twenty seven twenty four, San Francisco gets over the hump 522 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: and sends Mahomes and company back to the drawing board. 523 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: Do you have an MVP. 524 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: For me? 525 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: If it's going to happen, I'm looking at Bosha as 526 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: the MVP. I know, I know it won't be rested 527 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: away from the quarterback. I'm a realist, but I'm gonna 528 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: take Nick Bosa to make a player two. That turned 529 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: the tides. 530 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 6: All right, Ryan Berschinger, I am picking the Chiefs. I've 531 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 6: going into the championship game. I picked against the against Mahomes, 532 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 6: and I just don't feel right doing that, like ever again. 533 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: So that seems to be a consensus. It's kind of 534 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: analysis here, right, the. 535 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: Only analysis that I've heard from people who pick the 536 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: Chiefs like I can't pick against Mahomes. 537 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything else says forty nine ers, but yeah. 538 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it really it's and I know that there 539 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 6: are plenty of factors that could easily mean that the 540 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: because I did also start to see two and a 541 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 6: half for the Niners today, so I know that it 542 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 6: it is trending in the. 543 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: It's pushing back out then yeah, okay. 544 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 6: So but no, I am I thirty one twenty four chiefs. 545 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 6: I think that Mahomes and Kelsey in a big game 546 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 6: time and time again proves to be a winning formula. 547 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 6: And I know that that feels simplistic to say, but 548 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 6: quite frankly, it's. 549 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 5: It's they're not wrong. You've seen it. There's enough data 550 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: points to support it. 551 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 6: And like for MVP, if that happens, then you know, 552 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 6: obviously like Mahomes wins MVP. But let's let's go off 553 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 6: the board. 554 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Joe Tony. 555 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: Willis Reid like returned to the to the field. 556 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: To get wild. He had the big hero moment at 557 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 6: the end of the AFC Championship game and maybe maybe 558 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: this is truly everything coming full circle and he becomes 559 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 6: a full edged hero, and that is Markus Valdez scantling. 560 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: Wow, look at you, MVP have. 561 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 6: Over one hundred yards and two touchdowns for MBS. Of course, 562 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 6: if that happens, Mahomes will be MVP. But you know, 563 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 6: if we if we want to get really outside of 564 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 6: the box here and throw a dart and and try 565 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 6: to try to win something big MVS for MVP. 566 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, you know that Ryan just placed that parlay 567 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 5: mahomes two plus touchdowns and MBS. That parlay is in 568 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 5: play now. 569 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: All right, so We've got one chief, one niner, and 570 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: so I'm going to break the tye here. I think 571 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: the final score is going to be thirty four to 572 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: twenty seven. It's funny, we've talked about this game for 573 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: the last week and a half. I did not think 574 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: of our prediction until somebody asked me today in one 575 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: of the affiliate calls when I was talking to to 576 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: Fargo North North Dakota talking to Andy and Sam there, 577 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: and it just came out. 578 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: What it is. 579 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: I think the forty nine ers do win, and I 580 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: think the forty nine ers cover. I had thirty four 581 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: to twenty seven Christian McCaffrey being my most valuable player. 582 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Boom, there you go. 583 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: I think you could see a hat trick of touchdowns 584 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: for him. 585 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not going out on a limit all 586 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: So that was a really boring bi. 587 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: No, No, it is though, but because the well, but 588 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 5: what it does, though, Dan is it establishes the bigger 589 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: piece of it of you know, can they get off 590 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: the jump early with the run game to make things flow? 591 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: And that only happens if McCaffrey's having a big day. 592 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: So I think I think there could be a two 593 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: or three touchdowns in his future. We shall see. 594 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs again will try to do a 595 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: little bit what they do with the Ravens and actually 596 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: try to keep the Niners offense off the field. We'll 597 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: see how well that works coming up in Super Bowl 598 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: fifty eight. All right, a couple of prop bets to 599 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: wrap this up, all right, coin toss you guys, Tails 600 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: never fails where you're going on the coin toss ahead? 601 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 6: Oh, I will go tails. 602 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: All right, I am a tails guy. Well. 603 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: Length of the National Anthem sung by Reba McIntyre, and 604 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: we've already heard that she's been trying it out and 605 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: people have been trying to record, trying to listen to 606 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: the stadium. Eighty seven and a half seconds the over 607 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: under burst. You get the first ones on this one. 608 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 6: Dang that keeps going down because I was like ninety 609 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 6: and a half, like a day or two ago. That's uh, man, 610 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 6: I think it'd be really funny if she busts out 611 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 6: like a forty five second, just just slapped through. 612 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: The national. 613 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 6: I will go over, I will go over. I think 614 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 6: sometimes the I mean, you know that with the nerves 615 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 6: kicking in, sometimes people go quicker because of the nerves. 616 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: But I think I think RIBA's a very confident woman, 617 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 6: and she's going to stand there and just really lean 618 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: into it. So let's go over that eighty six and 619 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: a half. 620 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: I like that people were trying to contact her on 621 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: social media, not only hey, I love you on your 622 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: your shows or whatever else, but you know, for a friend, 623 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: I've been rehearsing for a local local in a rendition 624 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: that I'm going to do. 625 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: Would you say you want to do it longer? For sure? 626 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 5: I'll take the under on this one that that she 627 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: cuts it off with an abrupt note at the end 628 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 5: instead of holding it like so many do. 629 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under as well. 630 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with with with Michael piggyback off 631 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: of that, I will say this in that one clip, 632 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: do you remember the guy saying it like the horse 633 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: race and he kept on just saying like and the 634 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: you know, and the ramparts were there, like it goes 635 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: along if you add lines, you could always forget a line, 636 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: which would make it really short. So I'm gonna go 637 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: with the under on that one, all right, Jersey, number 638 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: of first TD scorer odd or even a lot of 639 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 4: odd numbers on the niners. Are you Kittle, McCaffrey all odd? 640 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go even, and your bays off, Dan. 641 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 6: I will take odd. I believe what MBS is eleven. 642 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 6: I'm baking on there, Kelsey with at eighty seven. 643 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: So I'll go with the with the odd as well. 644 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: All right, you have Bosa as your MVP. Nick Bosa. 645 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: Total quarterback sacks for both teams over under four and 646 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: a half. 647 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say over on that one for Mike and half. 648 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: Now I got the game script running through my head. 649 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 5: I'll take the over because you know, a one yard 650 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 5: loss counts as a sack, so I get I think 651 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: we get it. 652 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: By the technicality, we're all on the over. 653 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I agree with that, all right? 654 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: And do we do we want to do Gatorade bath? 655 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: Are there anyones that you guys like. 656 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: There was a lot of movement right on what was 657 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 5: it earlier in the week. Was it orange that was 658 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 5: making a big surge? 659 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: I said orange the other day, So I'm gonna stick 660 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: with that. I like that. You always think like they're 661 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna have red, but who has fruit punch right. 662 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: Here? 663 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 6: I also like orange, and I go back to what TJ. 664 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 6: Houchmanzadas said a couple of years agoing up on game, 665 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 6: where he said that whenever you dump gatorade, you go 666 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 6: with the tub that's the most full, because you want 667 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 6: to drench them the most. And nobody likes orange, so 668 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 6: they gravitate two orange. And I like that the more 669 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 6: full one, and so I believe it was orange last year. 670 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's uh, well. 671 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 5: The odds I was looking at here, orange is the favorite, 672 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: and then you got purple, yellow, and green all at 673 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: the next level of odds. Out of my stupid Northwestern loyalty, 674 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 5: I'll go purple. I'll go a little bit crazy here. 675 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: That's a perfect way to end it, all, right, guys, 676 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: enjoy the game on Sunday, and then the next time 677 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: we get together, we'll be looking ahead to the twenty 678 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: twenty four fantasy football season, plus probably with some thoughts 679 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: from Super Bowl fifty eight enjoy the game. 680 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: Fellas for Ryan Berschinger and of course Mike Arman. I'm 681 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Dan Bayer. This has been your Super Bowl edition. If 682 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: I want your flex 683 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: Mmmm hmm