1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Personally Felsman. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: As we continue to look in words at our own 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: lives and have some personal reflection in this series. This 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: episode is going to continue us on that journey, and 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: I cannot be more excited to share this episode with 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: you guys. His name is Danny Morrell and we were 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: walking on the same path during this interview. I think 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: it's something really special. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Let's do this. 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm excited to be joined by Danny Morrel. Danny, you 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: have insane amounts of things happening on social media because 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: you've blown up there for all your words of wisdom 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: and the incredible stories that you share. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on the podcast, Thanks for having me. 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: You have a new book that's out by the time 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: this podcast is out in the world, Awaken your Highest Self. 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not your first one. You're an author, 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: you're a speaker, you know the drill. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, in many ways, it does feel like my first one, 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: because my first one was life from my old life. 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: In the book, I talk about the story of business, Danny, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: and this is very much coming from a completely different 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: version of me. Like that guy that wrote that first book, 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't exist any So is it. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Weird for you when you look at that book that 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: you wrote, and you're in this different place of your life. Now, 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: does it feel weird that it's almost two completely different people. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: It's so much of two completely different people that I 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: literally tell people, please don't read that book. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: Really. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in my ego, I was in drive, 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: and I just to share this point. The name of 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: my event used to be relentless. Think of the energy 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: of that name, and that was very much the sales, 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the business, the driving. And then once I healed my heart, 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: I realize there's nothing to really be relentless about in life. Interesting, 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, if you are relentless, it 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: shows that you're actually wounded. 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so break down for me. 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: When the transition happened right when you finally were like, okay, 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm not actually realless, I'm this other person. 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: What happened in your life? 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: So it was twofold, and it all happened right about 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the same time as it does for us when we're 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: ready to awaken. It was the combination of my mom's 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: passing and my divorce, which was triggered by an affair. 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: So I know that's a lot. We can get into 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, but like all of it happened 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: at once, because to be honest, I wasn't picking up 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: on the signs. I was like, bypassing myself, I was 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: pushing down the parts of myself that were not happy 52 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: that we're afraid to speak his truth and be in 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: his essence and in his masculine. Quite frankly, I was 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: really avoiding the parts of myself that had some really 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: deep pain that no one had ever told me to 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: process or to work through. I was just like the 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: perfect good boy that did everything the right way. And 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: the truth is that all of that came from a 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: need within myself to get you to like me, because 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: I didn't like me. And when my mom passed away, 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: it's like, literally it was when she transitioned. It was 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: as if she went to the other side and was like, 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't know how to love him 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: back then, but I'm gonna love him from here. And 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: love sometimes puts you through some pretty tough circumstances because 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: it loves you enough to have you go through them. 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: And so that's what started happening. I started asking questions 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: like I mentioned in the book, are happy, And I 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: already knew the answer, and the answer was no. I 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: was just avoiding asking myself the question for most of 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: my life. Do you love what you do? The answer 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: was no. Are you in love in your marriage? The 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: answer was no. All of a sudden, all of these 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: questions started asking that I think most of us humans 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: are like afraid to. And when I asked them and 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: had the courbage to face the answers and the truth, 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: that's when my life changed forever. 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: So when you look back at that time, do you 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of what impacted you is just 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: how you were raised, the things that you were taught, 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: the values that were instilled in you. 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's deeper than that. I talk a 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: lot about this in the book. We all have masculine 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: and feminine energy, Yeah, and that masculine and feminine energy 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: is literally created through the masculine and feminine energy inside 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: of our mother and our father. Because if you think 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: about it, like when you're a child, you are defenseless. 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: You can't speak, you can't run, You're just there laying 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: on your back. And so when you look up and 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: you open your eyes, you got these two people, which 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: some of us have won or some of us have none. 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: And so that's when everything starts. Is it's all based 93 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: off of what you received or didn't receive from your 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: mom and dad. Literally the way that they looked at you, 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the way that they showed their love with you, their 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: capacity to allow you to hold feet links, the space 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: that you had to be your authentic self. And as 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, I think we can both agree our 99 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: parents didn't know how to do any of that. 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: We weren't even having these conversations, yeah, exactly ten years 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: ago before now. 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: And there's a reason for that is on an energetic level, 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the collective consciousness is starting to awaken, and it's starting 104 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: to awaken because whether we realize it or not, there's 105 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: this thing called AI that's starting to show up that 106 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: it's literally trying to replace us. And I'm not trying 107 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: to be a conspiracy theorist. I'm just telling you, like it, 108 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: just look around. Look, you didn't have driverless taxis, you 109 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't have robots before. And when we're unconscious, we're like, wow, 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: that's cool. No no, no, no, no, this is very scary. 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: And that's why we're all starting to have these conversations 112 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: because the more that we talk about it, the more 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: aware we become, the more that we can heal and 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: the more that we can start coming from a place 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: of authenticity versus fear. 116 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: And you mentioned that because it's interesting when you say 117 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: conscious awakening, that's really happening right now collective one. And 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about this from your 119 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: perspective because we are seeing such a huge shift happening 120 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: in society right now where we are just learning a 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: lot of things that really had an impact of how 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: we believed and see all the world, and all of 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: that's coming crashing down. Everything that we believed, everything we thought, 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: all the things that were so just deeply ingrained into us, everything. 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: And now everybody just feels like, literally what if? 126 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do I do? 127 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: What happens now? What's your perspective on that when we 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: talk about that, I. 129 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Think there's two parts to the world, and there's two 130 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: energies that we can live in as human First, I'll 131 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: start with parts of the world on an energetic basis. 132 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: This is not something you think, This is not something 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: you consciously do. This is energy. Everything is energy, everything 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: that you see, everything that you experience, everyone that you 135 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: see and experience, And as such, we can either live 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: in the energy of fear or love. Okay, Now, when 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: you look at the energy of fear, right underneath fear 138 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: is separation and this is really deep. But when we 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: live in separation, then we are separate from each other 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: by race, economic class, religious believes all of these things 141 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: that society puts in between us, and as a result, 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: we're separate from God and as a result, we are 143 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: separate from ourselves. In other words, when we are in 144 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: separation energy, it's me like against life. And when you 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: are in love, right underneath love, you're in oneness where 146 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: instead of it being like me and you, if we 147 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: go deep, if I had the time, I could probably 148 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: guarantee you that there's parts of your life story that 149 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: are very similar to parts of my life story, and 150 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: we could probably cry together and we could probably help 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: each other heal. And it's a very beautiful thing. But 152 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: like out on the street, I don't know. You might 153 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: judge me and I might judge you. You know what 154 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And this is the difference between like consciousness 155 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: and unconsciousness. Right when you are unconscious, you're literally unaware. 156 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: You are unaware of this beautiful, spiritual and energetic side 157 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: of life because you've been following the program for so 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: long like I did, and then when you awaken and 159 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: become conscious, you go, holy shit, Wait a minute, life 160 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: isn't happening to me like life has been happening for me. 161 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: Like that guy that I called a narcissist that I hate, 162 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh shit, he was actually my life's greatest teacher. Oh 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: my god. And if he was my life's greatest teacher, 164 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: then instead of hating him, then maybe I can love him, 165 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I can appreciate him. You see what I'm saying. That's 166 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: the difference is when we're in separation, we're also in 167 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: victim energy like he did it to me. When we're 168 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: in oneness, we're in creator energy, I called him in. 169 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: So do you feel like that's what you're seeing too? 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: As a lot of people are either awakening or coming 171 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: into this crossroads of I either am gonna stay in 172 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: this separation or I am going to choose to make 173 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: the jump, to make the uncomfortable choice. 174 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: This is even more beautiful. Let's take it a step further, 175 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: because think of choosing as like masculine. It's so beautiful 176 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: that you said that word. Because the other thing is 177 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: that when we live in fear and separation. We live 178 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: in the mind, which is the masculine, and the mind 179 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: is constantly trying to protect us to con oh yeah, 180 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: oh yeah, because fear controls and love allout. The feminine 181 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: is the heart. Yeah, And the thing that we are 182 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: the most afraid of is returning to our heart. Why 183 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: because if you go back to what I said earlier, 184 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: when we were little boys and little girls, our mother 185 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: and father, the people who should have loved us, should 186 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: have protected us, should have put us first, should have right. 187 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: They didn't. They couldn't. It's a perfect part of life. 188 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: They couldn't meet our heart's needs. And that made us say, 189 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: uh ah, I'm not going down there no more. I'm 190 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: going to stay up here. And there's really severe examples 191 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: of that, by the way. But ultimately what happens is 192 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: you return to oneness and you return to love by 193 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: returning to your heart, by returning to your feminine This 194 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: is man or woman, by the way, by returning to 195 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: the one place that maybe we unconsciously told ourselves that 196 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: we never would. And the reason why I said this 197 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: is not a choice. This is literally about an allowance. 198 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: It's always there for us. It's just will we allow 199 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: ourselves to remember, will we allow ourselves to start seeing 200 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: the patterns in life that continue happening. You keep attracting 201 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: the same kind of partner, you keep attracting the same client, 202 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: you keep attracting the same money you make it, and 203 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: then it finds a little ceiling then and it falls, 204 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: and all of it is just a reflection of what's 205 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: happening inside of here. M M. 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so. 207 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: And you mentioned this conversation of obviously our parents didn't 208 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: have this, so it was hard for us to even 209 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: have this. Yes, and you were talking about losing your mom. 210 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm curious because a huge thing that's happening on the 211 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: internet right now too, is this disconnection from our families. 212 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: Right we very much are. 213 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: People are learning their boundaries, are learning the things that 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: they went through, the things that they had experienced, and 215 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: then disconnecting. What's your take seeing this. I don't want 216 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: to call it a trend because it's not. There's a 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: level of it where it's we know better, we do better. Yeah, 218 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: but there's also just a lot of conversation. 219 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: Happening around that. And family is important, but there's also 220 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: boundaries that are important. 221 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: Are there's a balance in this. I think that what 222 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: you're seeing happening on the internet with families and people 223 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: leaving their families is terrible because we are made to 224 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: be in family, we're made to be in community, and 225 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: there's some families that have done some terrible things. So 226 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: every situation is a little bit different. I've seen some people, 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and I've actually worked with people that I have actually 228 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: guided them because of because of trauma and because of 229 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: control and manipulation where it's actually time to create a 230 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: little space for a season. What I think you see 231 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: happening is people are choosing to just cut people off completely, 232 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: and as a result, they're not allowing themselves the space 233 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: to integrate the pain and heal it together. And that's 234 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: where the magic actually is. And I think that we're 235 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: missing out on a big piece of what could be 236 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: providing healing when we say no to our family. 237 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it very much is what's happening. 238 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: You're just seeing people in general too, cutting off just 239 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: a quick something happens. Sometimes it goes a lot deeper 240 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: than that. Obviously, social media only tells one side of 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: the story. Yeah, but you see this just cut off 242 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: and it's just very blaant, very blunt, there's no nuance 243 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, And when it comes to relationships, I 244 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: am on the side of belief that there's a lot 245 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: more nuance to that story. And teaching people just to 246 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: cut cold turkey is not quite helping us. 247 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Really bad, really bad. This brings up I don't know 248 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: why I brought it up, but like when I got divorced, 249 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: part of what happened obviously because I had an affair. 250 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: My ex wife had a lot of pain, and I 251 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge that, and I completely understand that the issue is 252 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: is that pain got transferred into my kids in an 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: unhealthy way. I don't blame anybody, it is what it is. 254 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: And so when I saw that happen, my kids decided 255 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: for quite a few years to not spend the night 256 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: at my house and to not be around me. And 257 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: that broke my heart. But I understood it and I 258 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: allowed it. And all I did was I stayed here 259 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: and worked on myself and worked on my heart, and 260 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: worked on the parts of myself that, quite honestly, was afraid, 261 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: afraid to speak his truth and his marriage, afraid to 262 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: be himself and his marriage, afraid. I was a people pleaser, 263 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: and that people pleasing. What it did is after thirteen 264 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: years of doing that, I found an outlet. You understand 265 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is so there's a nuance in everything, 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: even in affairs. And people hate it when I say this, 267 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: but affairs are co created. It's not one day your 268 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: partner just all of a sudden decides I'm going to 269 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: go sleep with somebody else. There's a lot of things 270 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: that have been unseat. There's a lot of things that 271 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: have been unallowed. There's a lot of parts of both 272 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: of you that didn't show up one hundred percent for 273 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: each other. There's a lot of truths that you were 274 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: afraid to speak out. And the truth is that real 275 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: love cannot breathe in secrecy. It can only breathe and 276 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: cultivate in truth. And we're afraid to speak our truth. 277 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: And I can speak for the men. The man's number 278 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: one priority in an awakened relationship is to connect to 279 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and live from his truth and his essence, no matter 280 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: how she reacts to that truth in that essence, Because 281 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: the only way that the woman can ever actually feel 282 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: safe in a man's presence is if he is living 283 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: in his truth. 284 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can see from experience of the different 285 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: partners that I've had in my life makes sense very much. 286 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: You understand the safety that you feel with someone who 287 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: is genuinely the best. 288 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: Version of themselves, can I say, or just themselves? 289 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Yes, maybe not even the best, but you know what 290 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: you're dealing with. 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and yeah. 292 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: And I say best version because it truly I was like, 293 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: how could they get any better? 294 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Such a great human being. But I've also been with 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: people where I'm like, man, this is rough for both 296 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: of us, and you're not happy. I'm not happy. What 297 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: are we doing? 298 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: But you can't fix them. Everybody has to make the 299 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: choice to do that for themselves. And I do applaud 300 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: you for speaking on something from your perspective, because an 301 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: affair is difficult for all parties involved, and owning the role. 302 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: That you play in it, it's difficult. 303 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Was that a big part of why you wanted to 304 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: I know you talked about it a little bit in 305 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: this book. 306 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: I know you've referenced it before. 307 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Or is that why you wanted to do just to 308 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: bring the elephant out of that room. 309 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: No, it's really a commitment to authenticity. It's the only 310 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: way I know how to live my life. Like you. 311 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm an open book. And the reason why I'm an 312 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: open book is because I've got nothing to hide. And 313 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I would rather be that way than to hide anything, 314 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: because if I'm hiding something, it means means that I'm 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: actually in shame of it. It means that I feel 316 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: guilty of it, which means that I haven't processed it, 317 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: which means that I haven't healed from it, which means 318 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: that I literally can't do the work that I am 319 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: doing today. 320 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you cann't speak on it. 321 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: You're going to go in this life because you haven't 322 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: owned that part of your life. 323 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: That's right. And I can trace my affair down literally 324 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: to the first two weeks of my life. And this 325 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: is what the book is going to help you do. 326 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: The book is going to help you like access, like 327 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: where did this come from? Where did this trauma, this darkness, 328 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: this confusion, this anxiety, Where did it come from? All 329 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: you have to do is allow, and the book will 330 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: take you there. The first two weeks of my life. 331 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: My mom had a C section, so she wasn't there. 332 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: So remember what I said, when you're born, you're defenseless 333 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and you're just looking up and you're just looking especially 334 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: for that mother. The mother literally is teaching you how 335 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: to be with yourself. Yeah, so what I correlated life 336 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: was in those first two weeks of life is not 337 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: feeling wanted, not feeling safe, not feeling nurtured. So then 338 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: I was my entire like young adult life as a 339 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: man looking for a wife because I thought that was 340 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: the answer. 341 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to feel that, I wanted to feel, not 342 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: all things that you hadn't felt, not consciously. 343 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: By the way, this is like the deepest thing we 344 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: have to understand. We're just operating all of us from 345 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: like our deepest woundings until we heal them. 346 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: And isn't that just so wild to thing about that 347 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: the deepest wound come from apart where we. 348 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: Really don't even remember. 349 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: Oh no, you get older and you're like, dang, I 350 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: can't remember seven years beyond right, you're one through seven. 351 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: I have no idea what happened, couldn't tell you. And 352 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy that so much of an impact of our 353 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: life is from those moments. 354 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: We can't even get to them. 355 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, we can. This is what I dedicate my life to. 356 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: This is what we're going for. 357 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: I'll give you two examples. So A woman I was 358 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: working with never felt safe around men. If you don't 359 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: feel safe around men, guess what you'll attract men to 360 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: validate that story. Men to not feel safe around. 361 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is only going to make you feel less. 362 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: That's safe. 363 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: You're just perpetuating in the. 364 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Cycle because now you can say, see, I told you 365 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to feel safe with them. It validates 366 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: the story. So she came to me. She came to 367 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: the event Awakening Your High Self as an actual three 368 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: day event. She came to the event. It blew her 369 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: heart wide open. She started working with me for a 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: year so I really uncover this, and we use tools 371 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: like plant medicine, breathwork, meditation, all of it to help 372 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: you uncover what is literally uncoverable. It's that deep. It 373 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: was her third awaken. She pulls me aside, she's crying. 374 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: She goes, You'll never guess what happened. I said what 375 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: she said. I was taken back to when I was 376 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: a little girl, summertime by the pool, and I was 377 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: walking like just by the edge of the pool innocently, 378 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: and I looked in the water, and my dad looked 379 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: in the water and looked at me and said if 380 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: you jump in there or you fall in I'm not 381 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: coming to save you. It was that moment that was 382 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: the imprint, that was the imprint that showed her like, 383 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I am not literally valuable enough or worthy enough to 384 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: be saved or protected by the one man that is 385 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: supposed to save and protect. 386 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: So tell me. 387 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Why something like that is such a catalyst in our lives. 388 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Tell me why something that feels to the outside world innocent. Right, 389 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear people talk about this of where they're like, 390 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: I've said stuff like that that before and it didn't 391 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: mean anything, or you know that's the argument, right, But 392 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: tell me why, because I believe it. 393 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Words matter? 394 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that such a cat listener life? Why 395 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: are those moments such catalysts. 396 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: Because you feel, Because you feel them, you have a 397 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: reaction to them, and whether we realize it or not, 398 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: that reaction gets literally imprinted into our nervous system because 399 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: our mind, our masculine is designed to protect them. Yep, 400 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: the masculine. Think about a man and a woman. The 401 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: masculine is literally designed to protect the woman. That's his duty. Yep. Yeah. 402 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: And what is the woman inside of you? The woman 403 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: is the heart and what is the masculine. Your mind, 404 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: so your own mind, it's as within so without your 405 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: own mind is consciously and unconsciously just trying to keep 406 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: you safe, always protecting you, always protecting you. 407 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: Why it's always the barrier to everything away. 408 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Because it's just right, no, no, no, you're not going 409 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: to hurt me. So if the mind in this case, 410 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: the little girl at age I think she was four 411 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: or five, like, think about how young she was, earned 412 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: the man will not jump in to save you and 413 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: protect you, even if your life depended on it, then 414 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: what did that mind decide to do? Okay, well from 415 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: this day forward. 416 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: And went into mode to save her. 417 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. And it actually goes so deep 418 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: as to protect you from men because men showed you 419 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that they weren't going to be there for you. The 420 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: way the story ends up, however, and this is the 421 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: beauty of the work that we do, is she actually 422 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: saw herself falling into the pool and her father coming 423 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: in and holding her and saying, of course I would 424 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: have jumped in, and of course I would have saved you. 425 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: And after she saw that, she saw how the words 426 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: that he said, this is the deepest thing that you 427 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: have to understand the words that he said to her 428 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: were actually imprinted in him him, and they that pain 429 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: is literally imprinted in us and in all of our 430 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: ancestry until we heal it. And that's what's actually happening 431 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: right now. We are collectively healing these wounds and this 432 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: energy that isn't even ours. 433 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of talk about ancestral healing and 434 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: how we are carrying the trauma, the wounds, the things 435 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: that our ancestors went through, that's right, and the experiences 436 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 2: and if you think about it and you go all 437 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: the way back, we're just now starting to have the 438 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: tools and the resources to understand our traumas, understand different 439 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: levels of this. 440 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: So can you imagine the work that's being done to 441 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: try and heal generations of that? Yeah, yeah, and it is. 442 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: It's very much a conversation of understanding. And it's interesting 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: to me when people will say that's like woo woo, 444 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: there's no way, And I'm like. 445 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: Is there is that really no way when you really 446 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: think about it. 447 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: But again, isn't that their way of trying to protect themselves? Yeah? 448 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: H And does that make you then see the world 449 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: too when you have interactions with people that are questionable 450 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: and people that just want to put up blocks, and 451 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: because change is hard and all the things, doesn't that 452 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: make you then just want to be like, I really 453 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: want to help you. 454 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: I really help you want to see this other side? 455 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: No, okay, And I'll tell you why because I remember 456 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: when that was me, and that's where you can really 457 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: connect to the understanding that all of life is perfect 458 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: and everyone is on their own journey. Fear controls, love allows. 459 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: The control in me is like I really want to 460 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: help you, and the love and me goles when it's 461 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: your time. 462 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: And allowing the pick of the book, you'll start the 463 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: work to find the journey and it's all okay, yeah, 464 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: there has to be a peace with that as well. 465 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: Beautiful when you reach that point. 466 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: That's it and that is ultimately what we're all looking for. 467 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: Peace. Oh my gosh, yes. 468 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: That's it. What we are looking for in the business goal, 469 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: in the follower goal, in the relationship goal, in the 470 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: how do I look in my body goal? What we're 471 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: actually looking for is peace. We have just not been 472 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: shown how to access peace. Real peace. We think peace 473 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: is through achievement. We think piece is in doing. We 474 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: think peace is in being relentless and going after what 475 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: we want in life. But real peace is actually the opposite. 476 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Real peace is not needing to do a thing. Real 477 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: peace is not needing to achieve anything. Real piece is 478 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: understanding that there's nowhere to go. There's nothing to relentless 479 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: about because you've always been exactly where you need to 480 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: be since the moment. 481 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, when you did the crossover, you 482 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: talked about the very beginning of this where you were 483 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: this person and now you're a different person. Does it 484 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: feel like because I feel like when you're the person 485 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: on the front end of your life, the world feels 486 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: like a weight on your shoulders. Everything feels your chest 487 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: feels heavy, you tense up, your jaws always tached. The 488 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: second part of your life is the weight gone, the 489 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: jaw tensing gone, the piece that you feel a whole 490 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: body experience. 491 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a third part, okay, and that's the 492 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: work that you get to do in between those of 493 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: both of those new realities. And what came to me 494 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: to share with you was I went through a really 495 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: deep process where I was afraid of death. That's how 496 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: deep this can get. Because fear is fear. Yeah, yeah, 497 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: and I just happened to I want to face all 498 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: of my fears, and so when I did, that's what happened. 499 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: I spent a year where I barely slept. I think 500 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: I slept three nights. 501 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: And because of that fear, you're afraid to go to sleep, 502 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: fear of not waking up, fear of just what could come. 503 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: That's how much I was in control by going through 504 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: it and facing it. And that's where I say a 505 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: lot of people don't like it when I say that, 506 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: but that's where I say, And all I can offer 507 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: is the thousands of people that I work with This 508 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: has changed my plant medicine is a very important tool 509 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: for us human to participate, whether it's ayahuasca or mushroom 510 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: cannabis used in a ceremonial way. It's the thing that 511 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: takes you deep with it yourself so that you can 512 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: bring up those parts of yourself been like shoving down. 513 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: And I actually built book that way to take you 514 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: into those depths of yourself. And that's why I decided 515 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: to include my breath work. So you'll see, you'll get 516 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: in the chapters and you'll go to the link of 517 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: the breath work and be able to download it and 518 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: lay down and listen, and I'll lead you through it. 519 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Get ready, you're gonna have a beautiful experience. 520 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: And it's like that this is really for people who 521 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 2: are ready to take that next step, is what I'm hearing. 522 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Like they're in that phase of their life. They're ready 523 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: for this change, They're ready to take whatever step. 524 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: Is necessary to become the highest self. 525 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're starting to notice that there's parts of your 526 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: life that you have been unhappy with for quite a 527 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: few years now, and you're starting to ask yourself, like 528 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: why is life this way? And you want answers and 529 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: no one seems to be giving you answers. And the 530 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: book won't give you the answers. The book will guide 531 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you to find the answers within yourself. I think that's 532 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: what's so beautiful about it. 533 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know if other people have felt this 534 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: way when they've started to do work with you. So 535 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm curious because I often say it because change is hard. 536 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: Change is a really hard experience. We get used to comfortability. 537 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: There's so many securities in not changing. But I think 538 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: for me, and i'd probably speak for a lot of people, 539 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: there's a scariness to knowing that your potential is so 540 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: much higher, and it's almost like you're afraid of that. 541 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: It's our deepest fear. 542 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's normal. I'm not strained in having that 543 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: feeling normal. 544 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Our deepest fear is actually how powerful we actually are. 545 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into a part. One of the 546 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: things that I really faced was like the construct of religion. Yeah, 547 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: so I started to go to Bible seminary, I used 548 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: to alter calls, I used to baptize people. I was 549 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: just like highly religious, and when my mom passed away, 550 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: it just made me question everything, something that I had 551 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: been afraid to do. I can remember. I think I 552 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: was like, I was really successful in business early on, 553 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: and so I think I bought like my first not mansion, 554 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: but like really big house, probably at twenty seven or 555 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: something like that. And I remember the people from the 556 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: church used to say, Oh, my God, God has blessed you, 557 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: and then in the back of my head, I would 558 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: go the work so no, no, no, never mind, don't ask that. 559 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: There were so many moments like that where I I 560 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: would just start to challenge, but I was afraid to 561 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: do so. Yeah, and that's what actually led me to 562 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: my most beautiful awakening is that what we don't realize 563 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: is that religion causes us to believe that God is 564 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: like out there somewhere, and what you end up discovering, 565 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: think about separation when the discovering is you are actually one. 566 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: It was actually Jesus's message. It's actually what got him killed. 567 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't that he came like for our sins or 568 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: any of that, because I don't know the story, but 569 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: it was that he actually was speaking I am the Father, 570 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: are one, and to all of the religious zealous. Then 571 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: like that completely contradicted everything that and then they told 572 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: the people and that's what got him killed. Jesus literally 573 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: was the physical embodiment of what is possible for human life. 574 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Chin Light. 575 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: It's I love that you brought this up, because I 576 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: did want to touch on this with you. I really 577 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: was so intrigued watching your videos talking about religion and 578 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: spirituality because you're one of the first people that I 579 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: see that's not afraid to touch on this topic because 580 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: it's something that people are afraid to talk about. 581 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I've been very afraid. 582 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Journey, but now here you are today and you're 583 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: in the space. 584 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: Yes, because think about it. Think about it. It's remember 585 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: what I said, like true masculine is about embodying your 586 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: own truth. So it's the truth I discovered. What was 587 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: going on with the fear was I was attached to 588 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: your reaction to the truth that I discover, and I 589 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: was attached to them, and I'm no longer attached to them. 590 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: And for a while I was angry about it because 591 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, oh my god, they've been lying. Was 592 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: so it was that energy, and even that energy is gone. 593 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: I just want to share your experience, my experience, and 594 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: then if you want to test it, go experience it yourself. 595 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: What I can guarantee you, if you go deep enough, 596 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: you will find the exact thing that. 597 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: I found and the reason why it drew me so much, 598 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: to so much of your work and you talking about 599 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: it's funny because you were afraid of the responses, But 600 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: what your mind was protecting you from seeing was all 601 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: the people you could connect with of speaking to it, right, right, 602 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: That's what happens. But I loved it because church has 603 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: always been incredibly difficult for me. 604 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: I've had really bad experiences in churches, just horrible. We 605 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: could be here all day talking about those moments. 606 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: But I decided very early on through those experiences that 607 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: I just church wasn't for me, But what was for 608 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: me was just living a life full of love. I 609 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: wanted to take care of people. I wanted to be 610 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: the person that somebody could come up to and feel 611 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: comfortable talking to. I wanted to take care of my neighbors. 612 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to show up for my community. I wanted 613 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: to be there for strangers. 614 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to live in love. That's what I wanted. 615 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: That's it. 616 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: You are the first person I've really seen just have 617 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: that conversation about It's not about what you think it's about. 618 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: It's really about this inner piece of you that just 619 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: should be wanting to give love instead of demanding everybody 620 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: sees things a certain way. 621 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what you're saying right now, let me 622 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: show it to you. So if I do this, let's 623 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: see what comes up for you. If I'm doing this, 624 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: what am I doing? What part of me am I 625 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: feeding right now? 626 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: Your mind? 627 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Which means that I am receiving knowledge? 628 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 629 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Right, you know what you just said. What you just 630 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: said is God is actually and life and love is 631 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: actually not about knowledge. It's about embodiment. That's what you 632 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: just said, and that's what we have a hard time 633 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: finding in church people that embody because church actually blocks 634 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you from embodying. The only way that you can embody 635 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: is to go into, is to discover, is to feel, 636 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: is to let go of, is to surrender. It's to 637 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: have the human experience. It's to face your shadows, it's 638 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: to face the darkest parts of your Church actually blocks 639 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: you from doing any of that because it keeps you 640 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: stuck in belief, it keeps you stuck in waiting for 641 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: a savior that is not coming, and it keeps you 642 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: thinking that there's an enemy that doesn't exist. The enemy 643 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: you've been calling the enemy is just your shadow. So 644 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you are actually detaching yourself from both of the parts 645 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: of yourself that if you were to bring them together, 646 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: you can integrate them and become the living embodiment of love. 647 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: Wow, I just felt like I went to a servant. 648 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: And I know we're not in trolley that that's exactly 649 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: what I needed, But what did that feel like? I 650 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: loved hearing somebody speak to the things that are happening 651 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 2: in my head and I can't get anywhere else. 652 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 653 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: And that's why I loved you talking about it was 654 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: because it's so hard to find people who are one 655 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: willing and two to just have that open conversation and 656 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: just have the conversation that. 657 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Looks a little different. 658 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean anything's 659 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: wrong or right. And like, I really don't identify with 660 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: wrongs and right. It's very much of how does it 661 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: make you feel and what is your way of perceiving 662 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: it and the openness that comes up right right, And 663 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 2: so listening to you say that, it was like somebody 664 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: sees the way that I see and that was really cool. 665 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: And when you talk about like wrong or right, wrong 666 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: or right is the ego's way of protecting. 667 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: Its story, putting you into these categories of like, what 668 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: you're doing here is wrong, what you're doing here is right. 669 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: That's right. So watch this. This is what religion does. 670 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: By the way, if I believe that my way is 671 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: the only way, then I am what. I am right 672 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: and you are wrong. And if I am right and 673 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: you are wrong, then we are in oneness or in separation. 674 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: And if we're in separation, are we in love or fear? 675 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: Fear? 676 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: And if we are in fear. Are we in victim 677 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: energy or creator energy? 678 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 3: Victim energy? 679 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: And if we're in victim energy, can we ever actually 680 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: create the human embodiment and life that we actually are 681 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: capable of creating? 682 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: No? 683 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is no, iile, It's like we're just like 684 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: the same thought. Not really, it's it's so cool to me. 685 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: You know it lands though, because it's universal truth. 686 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: It's not. 687 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: And the way that universal truth is you can go 688 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: into it and test it, test it, go experience it 689 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: for yourself. This is why I say, like, you know, 690 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: you come to my three day event. I literally start 691 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: off every event saying, you're not here for me, Because 692 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: if you're here for me, you're right back in the church. 693 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: You're right back listening to the preacher. You're right by 694 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: believing and what no, no, no, no no. And as you're 695 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: not here for knowledge, you are here to literally get 696 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: naked with yourself so that you can experience and feel 697 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: and challenge and test everything so that you can become 698 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: the teacher, the leader, the guide, the spiritual version of 699 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: yourself that has been trying to come online literally since 700 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: you were born. And that only happens when you actually 701 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: stop believing and you start becoming. 702 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: I know this isn't a church, but I just you're 703 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: really good at preaching and it's really good and not 704 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: on a preaching is probably the wrong word. 705 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. 706 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you made me feel certain things then like 707 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 2: just captivated, just understood, just wanting to attract the energy 708 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: that you have per se. 709 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it's really interesting. So have you done your human 710 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: design yet? 711 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: No? 712 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: Okay, you need to. Okay, so go nowadays you can 713 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: just do it for free on any CHADGYBT or anything 714 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: like that. Go get your birth date, your birth time, 715 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: and your birth location and type it in and say 716 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: you're a human design expert. Tell me my human design 717 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: and if people and if you want remind me, I'll 718 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: get it for you for free. You go to podcast 719 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: dot Dannymorell dot com, backslash human Design and you can 720 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: get it's a full customized story of you, your life. 721 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: There are certain different human design types. There's generators, there's projectors, 722 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: there's manifest generators, and there's reflectors and all of this 723 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: is based off of your time and date of birth 724 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: and all of this. Reflectors are less than one percent 725 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: of the human population. I'm a reflector. So what that 726 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: means and what you're feeling right now. And by the way, 727 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: what I am feeling right now is that curiosity that 728 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: was in You gave me the space to say what 729 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: needed to be said so that you can hear what 730 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: you needed to hear. See, we're co creating this moment 731 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: right now. That's the way it happens. 732 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 733 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've been on podcasts before like this is 734 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: I've spoken about this. I was on Lewis House's podcast, Yeah, 735 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: and I was a mess because his energy is very 736 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: like this and I was very like this and I 737 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: wasn't myself. Yeah, that's how it happened. 738 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: Because you're gl isn't that cool too? 739 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: Because also you think about partnerships, right The most important 740 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: thing that you choose in this life is a partner. 741 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: That you're gonna spend your life with. 742 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you think about people making those choices. 743 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: Without the tools, That's why I'm saying, go get your 744 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: human design, Go get the his human design, Go stick 745 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: it in a GPT and say, tell us about each other. 746 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. So when you look at 747 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: energy and when you look at human designs, you'll notice that, 748 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: like different parts of you are defined or undefined as 749 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: a reflector energetically, I'm undefined and I have an undefined spleen. 750 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: What happens when you have an undefined spleen is and 751 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: I bet you a bunch of compans will relate to this, 752 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: what happens when you have an undefined spleen is that, 753 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: like you outsource parts of your power onto your partner 754 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: and you don't do the things that you know that 755 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: you should do for or yourself, but you actually blame 756 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: them for it. And all of this is happening unconsciously 757 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: and it's all energetic, and no one has ever told 758 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: us like how this stuff works. That's why I talk 759 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: so much about it because once you discover it, you 760 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: want the world to know. 761 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you you want to be the vessel to 762 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: allow people to experience the things you're experiencing that and 763 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 2: so you're in this place now and you're like, I haven't, 764 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 2: so why wouldn't I share it? 765 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? And when I said I used to be afraid 766 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: of it is I literally used to think, if I 767 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: share this, they're gonna kill me. Because it was my 768 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: deepest fear of the fear of that Ye see how and. 769 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: When I'm assuming when you say they, it's just anybody 770 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: who thinks that you could be hurting a narrative that's 771 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: been created. 772 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: And what is happening right now because of social media 773 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: is all narratives are literally being destroyed. The political narrative 774 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: is being destroyed, the religious narrative is being destroyed. Everything 775 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: is out in the open, because that's how we act, 776 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: transcend darkness. It's we've been shoving it down forever. All 777 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 1: of the Epstein files, what happened with Charlie Kirk, all 778 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: of this stuff, it's all coming up into the light. 779 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: And the more that it comes up into the light, 780 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: the more that all human secrets they're just going to dissolve. 781 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: And the more that they dissolve, the more that fear dissolves, 782 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: and the more that fear dissolves, the more liberated we. 783 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 3: Actually go and love finally does win. 784 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 785 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: Gosh, Yeah, I know it's not preaching, but like I 786 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 3: don't feel it, and it feels good. 787 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: It's a great feeling, and it's cool to hear you 788 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: talk and just to connect with somebody who truly puts 789 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: a lot of my feelings into words, because it's a 790 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: weird feeling when you have all these things and you 791 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: just they feel jumbled and they don't quite make sense. 792 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: But then when somebody says them, you're like, dah, that's 793 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: what I meant, That's what I wanted to hear. 794 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: I do love to end this podcast in a space 795 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: because I have a feeling I could keep you here 796 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: all day. 797 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to here. 798 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: You have places to be, things to do, But I 799 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: really like to end this podcast in a space where 800 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: either it's a piece of advice, motivation, inspiration, or maybe 801 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: something we just didn't get to that you feel heavy 802 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 2: on your heart to share. 803 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and go anywhere. 804 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. The greatest piece of advice I have for anyone 805 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: listening is that absolutely everything in your life that has 806 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: happened prior to today, all of it has happened for you. 807 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: And the thing that keeps you from seeing that is 808 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: the resistance that you have for it. And the most 809 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: important thing that you can heal is the relationship that 810 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: you have with your mother involvement, because any negative energy 811 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: that you have with your mother, negative energy that you 812 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: have with yourself and your heart, Any negative energy that 813 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: you have with your father, it's negative energy that you 814 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: have with your masculine and other people, because your father 815 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: literally teaches you how to relate to others. So when 816 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: you are attracting partners that aren't meeting you, that aren't 817 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: loving you, and that aren't choosing you, it is somehow 818 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: connected to the relationship that you had with your father. 819 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: And when you're in a constant state of anxiousness and 820 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: worthy and unworthiness and self doubt and fear and not 821 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: feeling connected and not able to own your truth, it's 822 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: because of something that you experience with your mother. And 823 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: this is why healing is so important. And I would 824 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: say that if you want to start understand once and 825 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: for law, that the only pain that your mother and 826 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: father could have ever passed down to you is pain 827 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: that they received as little boys and girls from their 828 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: mother and father. And that's when you get to go, 829 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, It's either I resist and hold on 830 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: or I let go and I allow myself to forgive 831 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: them and see them and see their pain in them. 832 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: And that's where everything heals is when you can look back, 833 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: offer forgiveness, offer love, and your whole life will literally 834 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: change for everyone. 835 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: Mat you mentioned the little boys little girl's moment one 836 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 2: of my favorite things to say to people. When I 837 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: hear they're having difficult relationships with families, you do realize 838 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: it's also their first time going through life too, right, 839 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: they're still learning. 840 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: That's right, and again, didn't. 841 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: Have a lot of tools and resources that we have now, 842 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: and there has to be grace given. 843 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to. 844 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: Forgive and forget in that moment, but understanding that they're 845 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: also a human that is experiencing things for the first 846 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: time too. 847 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 3: Almost takes out the relationship and makes the more human. 848 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 849 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 3: That's right, and that's what you mentioned. 850 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: It opens you up to allowing you could literally just 851 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: tell God say I'm ready to forgive my mother, I'm 852 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: ready to forgive my father. I don't know how to 853 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: do that. I don't know how to forgive. I don't 854 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: know how to open my heart. I actually don't want 855 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: to do this. Every part of me is telling me 856 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: to keep holding anger towards them, but I can see 857 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: how that's hurting. So meet me where I'm at, Show 858 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: me the path, bring me the people, bring me the 859 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: circumstances that would all allow me to forgive them. Because 860 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm finally starting to realize that the pain that I 861 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: harbor towards them is actually pain that I'm harboring towards myself. 862 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: And all you have to do is speak that into 863 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: existence and forget about the how and watch how literally 864 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: life will magically start to bring you whatever help and 865 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: support you need to forgive the people that you need 866 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: to forgive the most. 867 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: That's so powerful and truthfully, I don't know that you 868 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: can hit on anything more important in this moment, so 869 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: it's a perfect place to end. Check out Danny's book, 870 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 2: Awaken Your Highest Self. You'll love it if you loved him. 871 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: The book is just more of that. 872 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: The website is awakenbook dot com. 873 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 2: Perfect and he has all all kinds of content on 874 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: your Instagram. Yeah yeah, there's all kinds of stuff there too, 875 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: so check it all out. 876 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: But it sounds like I'll. 877 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: Be doing some meditating coming up and these next few weeks, 878 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 2: So Danny, thank you for being here. I know interviews 879 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: like this one can be challenging because they may bring 880 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 2: up our own belief systems or internal values, but that's 881 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: where so much of our own personal work begins. This 882 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: interview opened up something and you, like it did for me, 883 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: you can check out Danny's new book linked in the 884 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: show notes, and while you're there, subscribe it up. Let 885 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: me know who you want to hear from on this podcast, 886 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: and don't forget. You can watch on YouTube or follow 887 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: along on social media at take this personally. I'm so 888 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: happy that you're here. 889 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 3: I love you. Bye.