1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama Girl drama girl, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: all about them. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 3: High school queens. 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 4: We'll take you for a ride. And our comic girl 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 4: cheered for the right teams. 7 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Drama Queens girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: sit with us. 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drahna Queens 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Drama Queens. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: Six o two. You guys, we opened season six with 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: so much levity, everybody's ever the best I've ever. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Jumping around cactuses and bedrooms and. 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: So much joy, happiness. 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: And then it was a different shows so too, like 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 4: Brook Davis, what happened. 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 5: To you guys? It's really bad. 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: It's bad. Do you guys feel gross? 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I was gonna say. Drives me 20 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: crazy because they color timed our show so warm, so 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: like all the colors would really really you know, saturate warmer. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: So I remember how good all this prosthetic makeup looked 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: in person, and then on the show, I feel like 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: it looks like they just smashed like cherries and raspberries 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: into my face, like everything's magenta. 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Really Yeah, Also, the bruises looked gnarly, like the color 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: of bruises like fresh fresh like that. They look really bad. 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: So it was good. 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was pretty gross. I remember Rocky 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: and I are our wonderful makeup artists who did all 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: the special effects stuff, going through like books of photos 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: of actual bruises and like injuries. 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember you had that book. 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 5: That was it was. 35 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: He used to take those photos and people would send 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: them to him. It was like a literal pick flip 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: through a picture book. 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like special effects makeup artists would trade photos 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: and for years after we did this episode, anytime I 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: would get hurt or like see someone with a bruise, 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: I'd be like, can. 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: I take a picture of that? And I'd text it 43 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: to Rocky game I did too, for like tell people 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: at home who Rocky was. Like. For years we had 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: two female makeup artists on our show because it was 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: a very chick heavy show. But by season six we 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: had two male makeup artists. Yeah, we had Tim and 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 4: Rocky different as night and day. 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: The beauty makeup on this show looked amazing too. By 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: the way, on this episode, which I was like, wow, 51 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: Tim is all over this. You could just see it. 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Hillary, your skin was flawless like all of 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: our I felt like my skin was glowing like it 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: never had. 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, your ie makeup was tight. 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys are so creative. 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: No Rocky since working with us in Tree Hill has 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: gone on to win so many awards. He just did 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: the Fall of the House of Usher that everyone's raving about. 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: So cool. 61 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: He's like done everything. He's the special he's the special 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: effects guy. But how he ended up doing beauty makeup 63 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: on one Tree Hill was beyond us because he's like 64 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: this dude with a mustache and a shaved head, pretty goth, 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: and we were all like, I mean, okay, We're like, 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: hey dude. 67 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the sweetest though. He just had such a sweet, 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: like happy disposition, you know, just. 69 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: Like wide eyed and so soft spoken. 70 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: There's something so charming to me about men that are 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: that physically big, like that could be intimidating. Who come 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: in real gentle and talk to you like this and 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: you just know, oh hi, you know things? You know secrets, 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: don't you. 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: It looks so good though, and I I don't know, 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: I just I can't say that I didn't like this episode, 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: but I just had a pit in my stomach the 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: whole time, And then it dawned on me that when 80 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: this originally aired, people had to wait a whole week 81 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: with this ball of like anxiety in their throat. How 82 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: why do we do that to people? That's cruel, brutal. 83 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: Do you think that's why we like to binge watch 85 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: shows now? 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: Just to calm down? 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: Well? 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, who's gonna go to work tomorrow after watching 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: this episode and be like, no, I have. 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: Great week now? 91 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: No I'm not okay? 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's tell the fans what it is, 93 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: because we really dove in y'all were talking about episode 94 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: six oh two, one million billionth of a millisecond on 95 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: a Sunday morning. The synopsis is that after Lucas and 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: Peyton enjoy planning their dream wedding, Brook and Peyton reconnect, 97 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: Nathan works with Quinn. By the way, it wasn't your 98 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: dream wedding, you bailed on it, but we'll get there. 99 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Block and Peyton reconnect. Nathan works with Quinnon on his 100 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: basketball skills, but Hayley is worried for Nathan's well being 101 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: and reeling from a threat to her store. Brooke reaches 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: out to an unexpected ally. The punctuation in this synopsis 103 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: is all over the place. Jamie catches Antoine and Deb kissing. 104 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh boy, did I like that part? 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 3: All right, kids, where do we want to even begin? 107 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: This was a weird episode because it was so much 108 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: lightheartedness and then so much really, really really over the 109 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: top and tense drama at the same time. And we 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: were bouncing back and forth. And I don't know if 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: I were a writer in that room, if I would 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: have known how to do any better. But I felt 113 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: what you were saying, Hillary, I really wanted to like 114 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: this episode, and I felt like I did, but there 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: was so much back and forth it was hard for 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: me to stay on top of. 117 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: It occurred to me. I remember having a conversation with 118 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: our boss that he was super into Sons of Anarchy, 119 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: like that's what he felt he should be writing that 120 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: kind of content. And I'm watching that kind of like 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: darkness sift in to our show. And I mean, we're 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: all influenced by things that we watch in our free time. 123 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: I mean, as actors, we do that in our performances. 124 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: We're like, oh, that's cool. I want to put that 125 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 4: in my bag of tricks. This is another show infiltrating 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: ours and it's the exact the opposite end of the 127 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: TV spectrum, right, Like I'm trying to think, like what 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: other mash up with one Tree Hill could have been 129 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: more awkward? Sons of an anarchy in Tree Hill? If 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: a motorcycle gang comes through to beat up anyone else? Uh, 131 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: do we think that dude was in in the suns, the. 132 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Guy that killed Quenton? 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was definitely in a bike gang. 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah behavior Yeah, okay, So maybe I've forgotten or I'm 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: missing it. When Quentin looked up and saw that he 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: was there and said, have a nice night. Why was 137 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Robbie so sorry? Why was Quentin so freaked out? Like 138 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: how did he know something bad was happening to him? 139 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: Because he saw the guy like likely dead, there's a 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: bloody body, like in the back of the behind the counter. 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: I stepped out of the room for a second. I 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: was finishing up my makeup, and then I walked in. 143 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what, Okay, so he saw something 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: he shouldn't have seen. 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: So we're bookended by all this violence, Like we see 146 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: Brooke getting beat up again in the recap, and then 147 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: we've got violence again at the end, and it does 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: make it hard to enjoy the middle of the sandwich. 149 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: But what were our favorite parts of this Tree Hill Sandwich? 150 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: Like you said, the Jamie, the Jamie Ketcheen skills and 151 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: deb at the top of the episode. 152 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: Brilliant, So good sony. 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: Do people just kiss all the time? 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: I loved it. 155 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Just cringing watching her tell him his reality is not real. No, 156 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: that is not what you saw. It's absolutely not true. 157 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: He's like, because I think it'd be great. Well, okay, 158 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: I guess it's all right then. 159 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. There's so many like bait and switches with skills 160 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: in this episode where he thinks Hayley's onto him in 161 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: the beginning, where she's like, I know why you're here, 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: and Antoine has such an earnest look on his face. 163 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: His performance in this episode was so great because he's funny, 164 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: but there's a there's a puppy dog quality to Antoine's 165 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: eyes when they go real soft and you're like, oh, 166 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: he wants Haley to know, like he wants to be 167 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: found out so that the secret can be enjoyed, and 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: just like great, like we're together, we're a real couple, 169 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: not a sneaky couple anymore. 170 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: I love that Antoine is so he was so earnest 171 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: and it felt like he wasn't playing for the camera 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: those moments of comedy when it's real and it's not 173 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: but I'm like, set up, set up joke. He's just 174 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: completely in his body and just one little look cracked 175 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: me up. 176 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 177 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: It was also just so much fun to see over 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: and over again that that sort of moment, you know, 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: the inhale when you wonder if you're caught, and it's 180 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: nice to see Antoine having that again and again with 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: you and with Nathan, and like it just keeps coming 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: and it's so I don't know, the payoff feels bigger 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: because it ties through the whole episode. Sometimes on shows 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: where we have this many cast members, people get one 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: scene to process something. And I love that they're really 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: making a meal of this for Antoine and Barbara because 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: the materials just so good and they really are just 188 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: so like you said, Joy, they're in their bodies, they're present, 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: they're funny, and it is a delight. 190 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: To watch. 191 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: Well him in the stands with Nathan, you know, like 192 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: Haley's almost found him out. And then let's talk about breakfast, 193 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: like breakfast, come on, let's talk about breakfast. And then 194 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Nathan is all like, dude, are you sneaking around with 195 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: some hot chick that you're not telling us about? And 196 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: it's like, oh god, somebody just say it. And the 197 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,359 Speaker 4: child knows. The child knows, child knows, and he's taunting 198 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: Uncle skills God pass. 199 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: And later in the episode when that Deb's like, I've 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: been having sex and then Haley's like she's been having 201 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: sex on Nathan's face. Oh gross, mom, hilarious. I can't 202 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: wait for this payoff. I'm really excited, and I do 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: I agree that I like that they're drawing it out. Yeah, 204 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: that was one of my favorites. I loved. I loved 205 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: also Barbara and Brooke Sorry, Deb and Brooke. I loved 206 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: the just sort of the unlikely partnership of and Brooke 207 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: needing a mom in that moment and Debs showing up 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: to be a mom. It felt like it could not 209 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: have been more perfect relationally, like that's exactly what she needed. 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 4: Baby, you had to go so dark in this storyline 211 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: and you know you're not funny at all, which is 212 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: you know, that was how Brooke came in. She I'm 213 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: the comedic relief. You know, what did you have to 214 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: do for this because I'm so you're looking at like 215 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: bruise books of other battered women with Rocky. Yeah, you 216 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: know what was the process it? 217 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's really interesting and god, it feels so 218 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: heavy to look back at. You know, we've all talked 219 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: about this, how our characters did so many adult things 220 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: at such young ages that we had to guess. You know, Joy, 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: I remember you talking about that when Haley and Nathan 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 3: have Jamie and being like, I don't know what it's 223 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: like to have a kid. You know, it's interesting to 224 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: look at this as women who are forty having had 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: versions of experiences with violence. I just hadn't had that 226 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: at this age yet, and so it was a strange 227 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: thing of having to try to find material to watch. 228 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: Like two, I remember watching like old episodes of Intervention 229 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: and listening to people who were talking about addiction, talking 230 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: about how that was a byproduct of violence. Finding articles 231 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: to read and you know, sources of people's real experience 232 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: and it did. It felt so heavy to kind of 233 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: hold all these stories I'd collected for this episode that 234 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: I think you can at least looking at it. I 235 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: sort of feel that transference, like I know there's something 236 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: real behind this, even though at the time I felt 237 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: like it was other people's stories I was telling. And 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: it's strange. It's like, even listening to myself talk, I'm like, 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, I sound different. Like the heaviness of 240 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: it feels like it like weighed down on my voice. 241 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: It's bizarre how that stuff can kind of get in you. 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: I think I could feel like the pressure on you 243 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: in this because at this point we'd already done all 244 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: the psychoederic stuff, and we had already had fans approach 245 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: us on the street and say I've been assaulted in 246 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: real life, and watching you guys do this is helping 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: me process like what happened in my life. And so 248 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: it's one thing when you shoot that and you don't 249 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: have that fan response in your head. 250 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know what. 251 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: You're like, I'm just telling a story. But once that 252 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: gets in your head and you're like, no, I'm telling 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: someone at home's story and if I fuck it up, 254 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: like it's going to hurt their healing process. 255 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 256 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: So I just feel like all the distance and weight 257 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 4: and responsibility on you in this episode because it's uncomfortable. 258 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: It was just uncomfortable to watch because it felt real 259 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: and like, I don't like the distance between Peyton and Brook. 260 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: That made me uncomfortable. 261 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, not used to seeing Brook in that space at all. 262 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: No, and that awkwardness between us when you come home 263 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: and you have all this happiness and I have to 264 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: cover it is it's so uncomfortable. 265 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Was it hard for you to come out of that 266 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. 267 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember how dark this whole period felt. 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: And I will say one of the things that was 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: really helpful was having the process of getting out of 270 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: the prosthetics at the end of the night, because it 271 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: takes a long time. They have to put solution on 272 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: and they have to start dissolving and you know, they're 273 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: sealed into your skin. So like the removal process took 274 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: over an hour, and so there was something that I 275 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: had to learn to do mentally, where like literally watching 276 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: Rocky take all that stuff off my face and participating 277 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: in the removal of it had to be like I 278 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: have to take this off and leave it here. I 279 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: have to try to leave this at work, but it 280 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: does you know, it's the weird part of our jobs. 281 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: I think it gets in your body. And when you 282 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: start to learn about you know, somatic work, and you 283 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: go through a version of this and you do research 284 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: and work on trauma, like you understand that even if 285 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: if something happens to your physical body. 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: If you get tackled by a man, yeah. 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Like it happens to your brain. 288 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 289 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: And so it what we do, even though it's quote 290 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: unquote pretend leaves like real scars and it's wild, you 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: know when you think about it. Nobody talked to us 292 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: about this stuff back then. 293 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cheryl Lee. Cheryl Lee told me back then, and 294 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know what the hell she was saying. Wo. 295 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: We were doing so much crying, and she was she 296 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: was so clear. She was like, it's not real, but 297 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: your body thinks it's real. Okay, so your brain is 298 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: like okay, it was just my job. Fine, it's stuck 299 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: in you. And I was just like, what is she 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: talking about? But now you know, because we've got all 301 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: these books, yeah, gests some things to help us. Now. 302 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I did a pilot and there was a sequence where 303 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: in the show, it was a sequence where you showed 304 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: my character and she was coming home with a different 305 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: guy every few nights. Or she was just having fun 306 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: living in the city. But we had to shoot all 307 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: of those sequences in the same day, and so I 308 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: spent seven out six seven hours in a day doing 309 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: all this kind of intense sexual stuff with all like 310 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: up against a window with no shirt, laying in bed, 311 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,239 Speaker 2: rolling around pretending like I'm screened, some guy in a staircase. 312 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: It was all of these moments, one after another with 313 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: all these different guys, and I was just thinking, like, yeah, whatever, 314 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: it'll be a day. It's gonna be like, hey, maybe 315 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: it'll be fun, you know. And I got home and 316 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: my boyfriend was like, I wanted to cuddle. I was like, 317 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: you cannot touch me. I feel so this is so 318 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: unnatural for me, and I just had. I got in 319 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: the shower, I just had. I was like I had 320 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: to cry it out. I was like, don't touch me 321 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: for like a day. I just need. It's weird. And 322 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: I just thought, Oh, it'll be nothing. We're just acting, 323 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: and it should be. It should shouldn't be a thing, 324 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: you know, But it's weird. It gets in your body, 325 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: it really does. 326 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: Maybe it just gets in our head because it's the 327 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: idea that it could happen, right it's like this person 328 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: picked me up and vaulted me. And I didn't know 329 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: that I could be vaulted, and clearly I can, Like 330 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: I did Secret Life of Bees where Paul Betty beats 331 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: the out of me. In front of it was Barbara 332 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 4: Allenwood's daughter. It was her daughter who was playing little 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: Dakota Fanning hiding in the closet. Was she there for that? Yes, 334 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: oh my yes, because you see through us to her 335 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: in the poset, and so they had two different little 336 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: girls playing the little girl in the closet, and so 337 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: it was Barbara's daughter for half the time. And that's 338 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 4: a child that knows me, watching me get hurt, and 339 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: it's all pretend, but it didn't feel pretend because it 340 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: felt like I have to go protect this little girl 341 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: from this, you know, this reality that we don't want 342 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: her to think could ever happen, you know, like it 343 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: was just so it's such a weird, dumb job. It 344 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 4: sounds stupid to complain about it because it's our job, right, 345 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: but it also just kind of messes with your reality, 346 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 4: and well, the reality of brook in this is just 347 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: like I feel like deb in this where I'm sick 348 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: to my stomach, and I'm like, kid, whatever you want, 349 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: you want a gun, We'll get you. Like, whatever you want, 350 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: I will get for you in this moment. 351 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting though, like I get your I 352 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: get the instinct to be like, it sounds so silly, 353 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: it's our job. Why would we complain about it? But 354 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: I do think we just happen to be in a 355 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: moment in like the learning of what it is to 356 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: be human now than it was ten years ago, let 357 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: alone twenty years ago. We know more about what happens 358 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: to your body, what happens to your brain, what imprints 359 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: on you, And I do think I think it's part 360 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: of the reason that we're having these sort of reckonings 361 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: in our industry and in so many industries, and people 362 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: are like, wait a second, what is required to do 363 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: a job? 364 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: What are our boundaries? Yeah? 365 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: And also how would we do it differently? Like I 366 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: think about this a lot, and I'm like, you know, 367 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: if we were in charge of a bunch of twenty 368 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: year olds on a show like Hours, I'd want to 369 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: make sure we had therapists on set during episodes like this. 370 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: I want to make sure, you know, people were like 371 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: doing some sort of a stretch class on their lunch break, 372 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: like to get this stuff out of their bodies. But 373 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: nobody taught us that. 374 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: Then, no, we didn't know to ask for Artists are 375 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: just supposed to shut up and suffer well. 376 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: And then you go, maybe this is the reason that 377 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: everybody winds up with, like since abuse problems, like everyone's. 378 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: Drinking so hard. Yeah, so that means be gentle to 379 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: teen drama actors. You guys, you know, just nice to 380 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 4: each other. That said, you did a beautiful job and 381 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 4: it should have been unnerving. And I remember it being 382 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: important to you that Brooke looked terrible and not sexy. Yes, 383 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: Like there's a there's a trend in some TV shows 384 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: where it's like I got punched, but it's a sexy 385 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: punch that split my lips, so I've got a pout. Yeah, 386 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: no sexy bruises here. These were gross. 387 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was upsetting. I even I didn't love you know, 388 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: there's like a scene where I'm in like boy shorts 389 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: and a tank top and you see all the bruises 390 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: on the arms and legs and stuff in bed in 391 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: the morning, and I didn't want to do that. I 392 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: was like, I don't think we need I don't want 393 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: her to be in like cute little pajamas, but they 394 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: were like, well we got to see the bruises, so like, yeah, 395 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: do you want to be in small pajamas in bed 396 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: or do you want us to like shoot a scene 397 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: of you in the shower. And I was like, well, 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: that's off the table, so I guess it'll be pajamas 399 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: in the bed. 400 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: But they could have had you laying in bed with 401 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: sweatpants that were pulled at like one leg was up 402 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: high because you were sleeping, and as you pull the 403 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: sweatpants down, you see all the bruises on your leg. 404 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: Like there's ways to get around that. But I was 405 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: less offended. 406 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: By you being in bed in your underwear because it 407 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: meant that you were just like locked in your space 408 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: and you knew that you weren't coming out and no 409 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: one else was coming in. Then I was the first 410 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: scene where we saw you in this episode where you're 411 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: in a silky blouse and a mini skirt like Brooke 412 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: Davis like got dressed in the day after getting beat up. Well, 413 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 4: those are the clothes I got beat up in. They 414 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: are Yeah, that was the. 415 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Outfit I was in at Closeover bros. And I'm like, 416 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: whatn't the first thing you do when you come home 417 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: to get out of these clothes? 418 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, sweatpants like hide. 419 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: Your shirt was like ripped, and yeah, I just know 420 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: Davis needs to be in like the biggest T shirt ever. Yeah. Also, 421 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: I'm very angry with Peyton Sawyer this episode because she 422 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: comes in the house. I'm furious with Paytser. She comes 423 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: in the house and gets a dumb story about Brook 424 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: falling down the stairs and Brooke has clear handprints on 425 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: her neck, Like that's bad friend zone, man. 426 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Peyton's on cloud nine. She just can't see. 427 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: It's gotta love goggles on. They're like beer goggles, only 428 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: the red ones. 429 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that handprint on your neck? Is that where 430 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: you grabbed yourself when you were falling down the stairs. 431 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: So that's how you kept yourself from breaking your neck. 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: You're so smart. 433 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: Just I have a question though, do we think that 434 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: Brooke knew I mean the fact that her designs were stolen? 435 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: Did you decide that you knew ahead of time, like 436 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: right away that this was something Victoria had set up, 437 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: or like, why else would your designs be stolen right 438 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: in the moment when she had been threatening that exactly. 439 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: And that's that's the idea, right, is that she thinks 440 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: the at least I remember the sort of like character 441 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: motivation for me in that scene with Deb when she 442 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: is being maternal. You know, you have these two sort 443 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: of broken women who don't know how to do this. 444 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: When Deb is like, we've got to call the cops, honey, 445 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: that's why Brooke says no, yeah, because to her, she's thinking, 446 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: my mom hired someone to come in and steal from me, 447 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: and I was here late and I got my ass beat, 448 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to let her win, Like I'm 449 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: not going to cause this pr nightmare for myself and 450 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: then have everyone find out my own mom did this 451 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: to me. 452 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: So she knows. 453 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: So she knows. 454 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what she thinks anyway. 455 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 5: Like she knows. 456 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: It adds, I think to a layer of that like 457 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: detac because for her, she's thinking, like, truly, the thing 458 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: my mom cares most about is the business and the money, 459 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: and it it adds, I think to that darkness. And 460 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: it's interesting that Deb, you know, Deb doesn't see it. 461 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 3: She would never think that Peyton doesn't think anything's wrong. 462 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't tell her, so that this sort of covering 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: that she's doing I think added some of that heaviness 464 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: you were talking about. 465 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: Hell well, speaking of goggles, where is everyone in the town? 466 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: Close over? Bros is made entirely of windows, and everyone's 467 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: walking by this mess and no one's like problem here 468 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: in the. 469 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: Heart of downtown, and everyone's like DIRP to DIRP to 470 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: dirr dir. 471 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: And it's so obvious that Peyton's not going to know 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: within and everybody had the way that news in tree 473 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: Hill travels so fast to everybody all over the fact 474 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: that Peyden doesn't know already, hasn't heard, and the Brook's 475 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: trying to keep it from her. 476 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that no one knows this, it's so bizarre, 477 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: you guys. There was a restaurant in Wilmington that got 478 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: busted up. I was about I knew it got so 479 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: they smashed the plate glass window in the front of 480 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: the restaurant and then they broke in and they busted 481 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: up the entire wine collection in this restaurant. Oh yeah, 482 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: you guys, we knew about it with him forty five 483 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: minutes of that happening. The entire town knew because you went, 484 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: you walked by it. You drove past, you know, like 485 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: it was. It was in a hustle and bustle area, 486 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: and so the idea that everyone just walking past that 487 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: mess and close over rows. 488 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: There's not enough shot, Like nobody's coming in to shop. 489 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: The door is open, she left it unlocked because Dev 490 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: walks right in. 491 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Samantha there. I did. 492 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: I did love though, to continue on with Peyton. 493 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: I did. 494 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: I do love seeing Peyton happy. It's nice after after everything. 495 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 4: But it doesn't it make you feel a little sad 496 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: because she's just so eager, like it's your most eager 497 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: baby energy of just like he finally loves me, He 498 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: finally loves me. Right, Okay, I started right now. She's like, 499 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say no to anything. You want 500 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: to move in, cool, You want to get married somewhere else, 501 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: that's cool too. You like sandwiches. I like sandwiches too. 502 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: Like it is such. 503 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 4: Strong yes man energy, which like, I love it. Fine, 504 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: I'm totally okay with it, especially for a young person 505 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: that's been dealt such a Shand. 506 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: You know what's killing me as you say this, as 507 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm realizing it's runaway bride and reverse. 508 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: Already run and run and run and run, and now 509 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: she's like, whatever. 510 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: Kind of eggs you want? 511 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 4: I like those too, Let's go yeah strong, yes man energy, Uh, which. 512 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Is But I'm a little like I was, So it's 513 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: strange for me to adjust to Peyton and Lucas finally 514 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: being together. Actually, as I'm watching it, I'm like, it's 515 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: hard for me to believe that it's real and it's 516 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: finally happening. I'm so used to him, you know, digging 517 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: around with other. 518 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: People, taking out well, and that they're actually like gonna 519 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: live together, and it never occurred to me that they 520 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: never had, Like them being in this hotel room is 521 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: the first time they're like living together, yeah, and just 522 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: spending all day together because she left right after high school. 523 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: So that's right, that was weird. But lesson here is 524 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: when you finally get the thing that you wanted and 525 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: have fun. Man, if he wants to jump on the bed, 526 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: jump on the bed. 527 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Jump on the bed, great shot with those cactuses behind you. 528 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: I really loved that choice of art. 529 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 5: I don't know why. 530 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: I just thought it looked so great. We were jumping 531 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: on that bed for seven hours in the duration of 532 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: this episode, because we're jumping on the bed, and then 533 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 4: you guys go to school, and then there's basketball practice, 534 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 4: and then smother happens at the end of the school 535 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 4: and you're jumping on the bed. M yeah, man, this 536 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: is how I paid my mortgage jumping on the bed. 537 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 538 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm not unhappy with it, Jamie. 539 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: It was cute though, the back and forth between you 540 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: guys and Jamie jumping on the bed, it was very sweet. 541 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: Well, and then you delivering like the Moira line like 542 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: Hailey was also, it was really good place in this episode. 543 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: She was very Karen in this episode yeare yeah. 544 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, which just made it that much like weirder that 545 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: everyone else was. The throes of terror, Dan included, Hailey 546 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: and Peyton are just like do do do do do? 547 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: Tree Hill's awesome. That's what I think is So. 548 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: The episode gives me a little bit of whiplash because 549 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: I am enjoying watching you guys so much. I am 550 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: loving the Jamie and Quinton storyline. I love learning more 551 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: about Quentin, the fact that he wants to be a dad, 552 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: he has a little brother, Robbie. He's just God, He's 553 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: so alive and beautiful. And and then you've got Brooke 554 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: and Dan in like the Seventh Circle of Hell, and 555 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm just like, shouldn't we have maybe done a two 556 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: parter for this? 557 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: Is just should they have been split? Maybe It's like 558 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: the cockroaches and it's just a lot like, am I 559 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: supposed to laugh? Am I supposed to cry? 560 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: Am I supposed to cringe? 561 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: Am I? 562 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: Oh? No? Man? 563 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: How am I supposed to feel right now? Although I 564 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: did really, really really love Dan finally speaking and telling 565 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: her brand sucks and a lashing at her, Yeah, that 566 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: was kind of great. 567 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: It was really great. 568 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Her realizing what the Beeper's for was great. But yeah, 569 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: it just you couldn't settle in either the joy or 570 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: the fear for long enough, so it was really it 571 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: was like getting rattled around. 572 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. I wanted a roller coaster of like ups and downs. 573 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: We were a little bit smooth and flowed together, and 574 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: instead we just had like elevator drops, like Tower of Terror. 575 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: There's the name of this episode, Tower of Terror. Yeah, 576 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: the the Nanny Carey stuff felt to me like we 577 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: just really loved Tory and wanted to keep Tory around 578 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: at any cost because it is so unhinged and I'm 579 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: confused still, while why Dan couldn't talk for like a 580 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 4: long time, and it's just kind of like Frankenstein's Monster, like, 581 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: but then once he starts talking, it's like he doesn't 582 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: stay Yeah, yeah, he's just really on a roll. What 583 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: is the physical injury that kept him from talking? I 584 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: don't know. I guess just being hit by a car. 585 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: He had some I remember her saying like, ooh, you 586 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: can't talk, like you know something about your neck from that. 587 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: Like oh you remember? 588 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: It was like a really weird line of exposition. 589 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: Was like don't try and talk, you can't, you won't 590 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: be able to You're yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 591 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: I wonder if Paul did Paul have like a. 592 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 2: Did he did he have laryngitis or something like why 593 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't I guess maybe they could have just written it in. 594 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: I just assumed that maybe he couldn't speak for some reason. 595 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: I think they just wrote it in because they wanted 596 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: this sort of payoff. But to it's one of those 597 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: things whereas an actor, like you read that and you 598 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: go off because they go you can't talk because you 599 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: have a crush injury to your neck from getting run over, 600 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: and you're like, do I because my neck looks the 601 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: same because I didn't actually get run over and people 602 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: are going to watch this and think I look like 603 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: an idiot, and like it's like I could see and 604 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: there's Paul. He does he commits to the bit, and 605 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: he did it so well and he played it so hard. 606 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: And then when he finally. 607 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: Speaks, like his voice is going back. He's so committed 608 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: and he's so good and is. 609 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: Viewer, you're like, his neck looks the same as it 610 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: did when he was like out working out in season 611 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: five when he was healthy. He's fine, he's fine, but 612 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: you have to suspend the disbelief. 613 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: The thing that broke the damn for Dan Scott was 614 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: when she's like lording over him and she says something 615 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: about like too bad you're not young and hot, and 616 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: the look on Paul's face was like, we both know 617 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: that's not true. Like he looked at her like we know, yeah. 618 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: He's greatd just face acting now, I know you're full 619 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: of shit. 620 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm so good looking. He's so good looking. 621 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 622 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: The look on his face when she threw the beeper 623 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: against the wall, though, that really got me the realization that, oh, 624 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: now I actually can't even get my heart transplant if 625 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: I needed to because I won't know and it was 626 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: a split second. It happened so fast. Just he's always 627 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: fine in the little nuggets everywhere. Also, why Toy and 628 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: I have the exact same haircut and color. Yeah, it's 629 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: kind of funny. Well maybe she did that on purpose 630 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: to try and lord Jamie, she. 631 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: Was trying to seduce your husband. Yeah, yeah, single white female. Yeah. 632 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: The Dan stuff, we see that he like slips his 633 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: hand through that little brace, so we know that he's 634 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: gonna plot and escape soon. There was a ray of 635 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: sunshine and that is the ray of sunshine in this 636 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: whole episode that Dan Scott our bad guy for the last. 637 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: Gonna get away. 638 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: He's going to escape from a worst bad guy. Christ 639 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: we have sunk solo. 640 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 5: We sure have. 641 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: Antoine and Deb's moment. Yes, their first real conversation. Yeah, 642 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: loved it. That was silver line. 643 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: That was so Antoine too. That's the kind of advice 644 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: he would actually give. 645 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 5: He's really good like that. 646 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And it is such a nice thing to 647 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: hear out loud, because we are a show that talks 648 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: about feelings a lot and friends rely on each other 649 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: a lot, but to actually have someone voice she called 650 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 3: you for a reason. She respects you. She probably thinks 651 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: you're the one person who understands what she's going through. 652 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: I can't explain why that made me so emotional, but 653 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, that is why people 654 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: call you and ask for your help, because you really 655 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: have trust. Like it made me feel so emo. 656 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: It was the respect line that got me because the 657 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: same thing got me because Deb has been shown by everybody. 658 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 4: She's been by her husband, by her son. Hailey's shown 659 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: her and told her how irresponsible she is. She's been 660 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: shown by Karen, her business partner. She knows that she 661 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: has had lows, and she has not made excuses. She's 662 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: just tried to show up in a different way. And 663 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 4: this is the first moment that anyone is saying to her, 664 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 4: I respect you and what you've been through. 665 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's such a great point. I love that you 666 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: saw that. 667 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it's the actions, you know, Like there's plenty of 668 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 4: characters in our show that say I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 669 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't mean too and then 670 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: they do the same shit over and over again. Deb 671 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: did a lot of awful stuff, and she just changed. 672 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: It was her actions that said I'm sorry. It was 673 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: her actions that said you deserve better. I'm going to 674 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: be different for you. And so now she's the lady 675 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: that shows up and makes breakfast for her grandson. Yeah, great, 676 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: drives them to school. 677 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 5: I love that. 678 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find it within me to feel like 679 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: it's weird that Deb would be dating skills, but I 680 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: have to say, like, it really works for me. 681 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: Did we think it was weird when we were in 682 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: our twenties, because now in our forties we're Deb's like 683 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 4: we're Deb's exact age. Yeah, now I don't think it's 684 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: weird at all. Now I think it's like, get it. 685 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: But did we think it was weird at that age. 686 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: I think we thought it was scandalous. 687 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: But I think I even liked it back then. It 688 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 4: was just such a good match. Yeah, I'm trying to 689 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: make I don't remember having a problem with it. I 690 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: just thought it was funny. And no, I don't think 691 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: it's funny now. I think it's hot. And also we 692 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: knew that like two people we loved very much. Behind 693 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: the scenes, Antoine and Barbara were having a great time 694 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: like that made it fun for everybody. 695 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those were always fun days at work, they 696 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: were freaking hoot. 697 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 4: Well, the next heart to heart, the Brook and Peyton 698 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 4: heart to heart. I'm still mad that Brooke is laying 699 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: there in Peyton's lap and she's still not seeing the 700 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 4: handprints on her friend's neck. So dumb. But this conversation 701 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: where Brooke is just really like I don't believe in karma, 702 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 4: that whole thing. 703 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. 704 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: Like I liked this conversation. They're actually talking about something real, 705 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: and it just made me mad that Peyton got up 706 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 4: and moved the next day, Like your friend is clearly 707 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 4: laying in your lap being like I'm in a bad place. 708 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is uncharacteristic of Peyton, it is. 709 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: It all feels a little forced. But I will say 710 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: I think Brooke is isolating so intensely, like in a way, 711 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: I feel like she was kind of pushing you out. 712 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: Sure, but your job as the friend is to be 713 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 4: like not so fast. Yeah, I see what you're doing here, 714 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 4: especially for Peyton who's been through so much trauma and 715 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: like knows that bag of tricks. 716 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. 717 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 4: If anyone was going to recognize signs, ye should be Peyton. 718 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the gist? Of that dialogue that you 719 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: guys were taught. I'm like, I remember seeing the scene, 720 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 2: but I don't know. 721 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: Peyton is thanking Brook. She's like, Brook, I just want 722 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: to thank you. Like Peyton's in a good place and 723 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 4: she's like, you gave me a place to live, you 724 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: help me with this record label. You are my person, Like, 725 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: thank you so much. Brooke keeps like making jokes like 726 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 4: she made the Lindsay joke earlier in the episode, like 727 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: blaming her injuries on a fistfight with Lindsay. Right, she 728 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 4: just keeps deflecting in a way that should be a big, 729 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 4: huge red flag. 730 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the heaviness that's on her definitely something that feels 731 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: like it should be acknowledged. 732 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the glossing over it definitely feels like a weird 733 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 3: writer choice, and I remember that we didn't love it 734 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 3: at the time, but you know, you have to shoot 735 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: what's on the page. But I think it's interesting because 736 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, when you're when you're going through all the 737 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 3: thank yous, in that sort of odd heaviness, you offer 738 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 3: that you are a really good person. Brooke Davis Line 739 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: and Joy Brooks. 740 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 5: You know. 741 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: My Brooks response is, well, what do I get out 742 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: of it, you know. And that's when we get into 743 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: the whole thing about good karma and I don't believe 744 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: in karma and I don't want to talk about it, 745 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: and and then we hit that you know, what do 746 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: you believe in justice? M hm, which I was like, 747 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: well that was interesting foreshadowing for my own life. Fellow, 748 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: same and it's. 749 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 5: It does. 750 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: It does sort of cause this like sense of foreboding. 751 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 3: You know something's coming, and it is an odd thing 752 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: I would imagine, you know, for you Hill, as the 753 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: other actor in the scene, to just have to pretend 754 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: that you don't feel it. 755 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 4: Right, just like yeah, makes you feel stupid, you know, like, oh, 756 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 4: my friend's being incredibly cryptic and her face is destroyed anyway. 757 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm getting married almighty. 758 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 759 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 4: That said, I appreciate the physicality in the scene because 760 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 4: that was doing the work that the words weren't. Like, 761 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 4: when you see two people laying together and playing with 762 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: each other's hair, that is a form of intimacy, that's 763 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 4: a sisterhood, that is just a deep relationship that words 764 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 4: can't necessarily convey. And so I do remember you and 765 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 4: I being like, how do we make this loving? Because 766 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 4: it feels very disconnected. 767 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Brooks trying to be there for Peyton 768 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: too and be supportive and be you know, happy for 769 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: her and give her what she needs so that she 770 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: can keep deflecting the attention off of herself. 771 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 4: Well, because Hailey delivers the line and the scene right before, 772 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 4: like only miserable people destroy someone else's happiness or. 773 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: Something like that. 774 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: What was that? 775 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: It was the only people that tear happy people down 776 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 3: are unhappy are unhappy people. 777 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 4: And Brooke is not going to do that. 778 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 3: Nope, she shan't stoop, she won't do it. 779 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 4: But what a weird thing for Haley to have to say, 780 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: you delivered it great. 781 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I mean, I 782 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: guess it's true. But yeah, they always script it. 783 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 4: You know. 784 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: It's so funny whenever these scripts would come in, and 785 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: sometimes you get these lines that were just. 786 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 5: So these. 787 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: Pragmatisms, know what are they called platitudes. They would put 788 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: the platitudes in and you just have to find a 789 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: way to make it real. We're just going to put 790 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 2: in some of the themes from this episode or some 791 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: of the personal beliefs of the writers and sell it. 792 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, somebody's like relaying a message here, or it 793 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 4: would just be such an unnatural line and you'd want 794 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 4: to change it, and they're like, I'm so sorry. We 795 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 4: already shot the previous scene where we echo those words again, 796 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: and so you just have to suck it up. I 797 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: hate that. I wanted to go first. The one thing 798 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 4: that felt very real was all the Haley Nathan stuff, 799 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 4: like Nathan working his ass off and trying to make 800 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: a comeback, and this whole like doctor situation between you two, 801 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 4: Like all I felt really dialed in. Yeah, I love that. 802 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: I like seeing them in a position where they're comfortable 803 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: and enjoying each other and enjoying this space where they're 804 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: being mentors and things finally feel settled. They've got a 805 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 2: system working so that they can both go to work, 806 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: they can both feel like they can both be involved 807 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 2: with Jamie's life and also find personal fulfillment. It's a 808 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: really nice little system that they've got going on. But 809 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: of course, no one and in tree Hill can remain 810 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 2: happy for long, so there's always going to be new things. 811 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree, it's really nice to see that, 812 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: and I love I just love seeing Nathan get back 813 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 2: on the basketball court and going for it again and 814 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: just having fun and watching all those guys play play ball. 815 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: I really love it whenever that's a part of our 816 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 2: show because it really was the core of how the 817 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 2: show started, was just watching the interactions, the communication, that 818 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: interpersonal dynamics that are happening on the court as a 819 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: reflection of what's happening in real life. And you could 820 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: see it all play out. And we did get away 821 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: from basketball for a while, so it's nice to It's 822 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: always nice when they bring it back in. 823 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 5: I love it. 824 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 4: And James seems so happy out there, Like James the 825 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 4: person that we know just lights up in a different way. 826 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: And playing with Robbie too though, because the two of 827 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: them had so much fun together. Robbie was always so 828 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: fun to work with and had so much energy. I mean, 829 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: what you see on the show is very much who 830 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: he is person well, and I. 831 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 3: Think also just on a technical level, the fact that 832 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 3: he was such a good basketball player, like James played 833 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: circles around everyone for years, Yeah, and so to have 834 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 3: someone he could exactly ball with, Like you can see 835 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: how challenged they both are and like they're really sweating 836 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: out on that court. 837 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: Like they're playing. 838 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really got to play and and having Jackson 839 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: in on that mix and like that whole dynamic was 840 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 3: just so sweet and it made things feel so real, 841 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: even when you cut to you know, your house and 842 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 3: Jamie's walking on Nathan's back, like people were, you know 843 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: at that point, like begging Jackson to do that for 844 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 3: them because everybody is playing so much basketball. 845 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 4: So like it wound up in this script. Yeah, like 846 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: it all just I don't know. 847 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 3: It felt it felt so grounded in something real and 848 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 3: and genuine, and I think it really comes through on 849 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: screen in their dynamic. 850 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: Why did we kill Quentin off so soon? 851 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 3: Such a poor decision? 852 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: What did he get another job? Like do we know 853 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: what happened there? We're gonna have to ask Robbie we will. 854 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: I think it was just the plan, and I think 855 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 3: because it happened. But that's the thing I think because 856 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 3: it happened so soon in the season, like we shot 857 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: it before season six started airing, and I think everyone 858 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 3: unanimously was like, oh, we've done a bad thing, Like 859 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: we did. 860 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 5: This too quickly. 861 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: I think it was really in the outline of the 862 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 3: season and what that death was going to. 863 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 2: Mean and what it was going to do to everyone, 864 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: and they totally miss calculated how much people were going 865 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: to fall in love with him, how charismatic he was, 866 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: how powerful his arc was going from where he started 867 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: into the place that he was. Even in this episode, 868 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: you're just rooting for him so much. It's just I 869 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: don't know, He's had so much more. I feel like 870 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 2: he had so many more levels of us cheering for 871 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: him to go to before they could rip the rug 872 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: out from under us and have us be devastated like 873 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: it was devastating now. But they could have milked that 874 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: for a lot longer. 875 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Robbie could have stayed on the show. 876 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 4: It comes down to representation in the room, right, because 877 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 4: if we finally have a young black man who is 878 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 4: succeeding on the show, and to shoot that guy, you know, 879 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 4: it just felt like a tone deaf white man's decision. Yeah, 880 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 4: And had we had some representation in the room, there 881 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 4: could have been a voice in there that said, this 882 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: is an important character to a number of kids who 883 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 4: are watching this show, and they should see black joy. 884 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: They should see like, you know, black success, because we 885 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: are not showing a lot of that on our show. 886 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 4: Our show has been criticized for its lack of diversity, 887 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 4: and this was an opportunity that could have been golden. 888 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 4: And I think Robbie did a beautiful job leading up 889 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 4: into this like narrative tragedy. But I do think we 890 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 4: did a disservice to our audience by killing him. And 891 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: that could just be me talking because I think he's 892 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 4: a naval actor, but yeah, I think we could have 893 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 4: done better. Every black man we have on the show 894 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 4: got put through hell. Antoine had to beg to be 895 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 4: a series regular, right. Ernest Waddell, we've had him on 896 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: the show and he talked about what a bad experience 897 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 4: it was for him, and so that we lost Robbie 898 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 4: also feels like another cheat. So when you hear people 899 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 4: talking about representation in writers' rooms, it's exactly for things 900 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 4: like this. 901 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It's such a shame ough And I'm 902 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 2: glad there's been a lot of change since then. I 903 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: feel like there's it's been so much improvement. But it's 904 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: really sad to go back and watch our show and 905 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: see things like that that it just wasn't It wasn't 906 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 2: in the place it should have been. 907 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 5: It's presure no. 908 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 4: I mean, for Haley, it's the first time we're seeing 909 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 4: Haley really true, he just gets an A plus. Come on, 910 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 4: that was great. 911 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fun to see that. 912 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 4: I feel like Debbie Downer for bringing it up, but 913 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 4: I had to say it. 914 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 3: No, it's really important. 915 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it affects the rest of Yeah, it just felt 916 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: like they didn't know what else to do, so they 917 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: just I mean, we really have hit the point in 918 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 2: the show where I feel like they just didn't quite 919 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 2: know what else to do, and so they just started 920 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: creating all these random scenarios. 921 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 4: I started punching people. I don't know what to do 922 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: with this character. We should tie them up, we should 923 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 4: hurt him? 924 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 3: Who feed him cockroaches? 925 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 5: Like really that's it? Oh my god. 926 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 4: When Lucas tells Skills that Peyton is moving in, and 927 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 4: Skills is like, do we want to have a drink? 928 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 4: Or should I wait until you for post to procos 929 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 4: to break, and then Jamie does the same to him. 930 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 4: He's like, so Peyton's moving in? What happened to Lindsay? 931 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 4: Were you with my mom? 932 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: What about you know? Like I just need to understand 933 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: this right now. 934 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's on Lucas's this episode. 935 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: It actually is really fun listening to from a child's perspective, like, okay, wait, 936 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: so you guys were together but then you broke up, 937 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 2: but then you went with her, but then she went 938 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: with this guy, and now you're with this person, and what. 939 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 4: About that relationship? 940 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 2: Just the simplicity of the way that a child would 941 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 2: come in and look at the dynamic, the romantic dynamics 942 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: on our show. It's really funny. 943 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 4: Judge US. 944 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like, what were you doing? 945 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 4: Okay? So what are our honorable mentions? I know what 946 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 4: mine is, and it's a Nathan Haley thing, okay. And 947 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 4: I wrote it down where Nathan and Haley are at 948 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 4: the River Court and they're talking about that mason Boro 949 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 4: game where he kicked ass and he's like, every shot 950 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 4: I scored was like a pickup line for Hailey James 951 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 4: and and he says, I played that game for you, Haley, 952 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 4: and I would also like quit that game for you 953 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 4: because I like being a husband and a dad so 954 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 4: much more. I was just like, yes, sir, that was me. 955 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 2: There is I had a flag in that scene. I 956 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 2: was when we were watching because she says, the first 957 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 2: time I ever saw you play was that game, and 958 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, what they grew up in the same town. 959 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: Lucas and Haley have been best friends. How in the 960 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: world is that the first basketball game she's ever seen 961 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 2: Nathan play? I mean surprised that nobody caught that. 962 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess not everybody went to basketball games. 963 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. 964 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 3: Wasn't that like a big deal that no one ever, 965 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 3: that you guys never went because Lucas didn't play, and 966 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: then once he got on the team. 967 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I don't know. I just it 968 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: just rang in my ear. I heard it, and I 969 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 2: was like, wait, I don't know, I could be wrong. 970 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 3: Did it make you feel the same way it made 971 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 3: you feel that no one checked on close Over Bros. 972 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 3: When the store had been decimated in the middle of downtown. 973 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 4: What are these tree hillers doing? 974 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 5: Do it feels? 975 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 2: Fish deb gets my honorable mention. I thought she just 976 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 2: totally shined shown. I don't know, she was fabulous. 977 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mine is for Robbie. 978 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 4: I just I loved it. 979 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 3: Every single thing he did in this episode. 980 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 5: I loved so much. 981 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 3: And obviously I knew what was coming this season. I 982 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 3: didn't realize it was in the second Frickin' episode and 983 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 3: he when he parked his car at that gas station, 984 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 3: I screamed no, like and I was like, oh boy, 985 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 3: that was a lot. That was a lot that just 986 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 3: came out of my body. 987 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: He really just. 988 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 3: Affected me so much. And I'm I'm still sad about it. 989 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: That's awful. Okay, guys, Patricia is asking us, did any 990 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 2: of your parents try to discourage you from getting into acting? 991 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you? 992 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 4: Well, your parents knew about it, Like, your parents lived 993 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 4: in LA they knew what that life was like. 994 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if Hillary, if you and I parents 995 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: actually knew what that really entailed. 996 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 4: My parents put me into classes when I was three 997 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 4: years old. I got put in these like little modeling 998 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 4: actor classes as a toddler, and I was told my 999 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 4: whole life that they did all this and made all 1000 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 4: these sacrifices because I announced at two and three years 1001 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 4: old that I wanted to be an actor. And then 1002 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 4: when I had kids, and it was like, and these 1003 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 4: kids both have actors as parents, they had no an 1004 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 4: idea two and three years old what an actor was. 1005 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was sold a bag of false information. No, 1006 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 4: it was my parent's whole plan. Wow, which is probably 1007 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 4: why I'm having this like latent life rebellion where I'm like, 1008 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it anymore. Yeah, I think kids 1009 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 4: should arrive at this on their own. 1010 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so your parents did, They were like, don't do it. 1011 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is like we didn't. We didn't have 1012 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 3: like any actors in our family, like any attachment. But 1013 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 3: you know, with my with my dad's photography business, like 1014 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 3: it's a weird thing to be adjacent to an industry, right, 1015 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 3: Like my dad is certainly a visionary, he is certainly 1016 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: an artist. And to be clear, like when you're the photographer, 1017 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 3: like you're also the hired help, Like you're not the 1018 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 3: in the scenario where like we all know how hierarchies 1019 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 3: can go on sets, like you're not the talent, like 1020 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: you're the person capturing the talent. And so it's a 1021 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 3: really interesting thing like to sort of see both sides 1022 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 3: of something, like to be close to it but to 1023 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 3: still be in the like employee zone, like you know 1024 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 3: when people talk about what we do and they're like, 1025 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 3: well below the line, like the crew whatever, all of 1026 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 3: which we like to set fire to. But I think 1027 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 3: what was interesting for my parents was like just sort 1028 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 3: of seeing the churn in the business, and especially because 1029 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: of photography, like I think the way that so many 1030 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 3: women like can be treated or used by the business. 1031 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 3: My parents were just like, oh, absolutely not. And I 1032 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 3: you know, I also grew up like my dad immigrated 1033 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 3: here in the seventies. My mom's mom came through New 1034 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 3: York wor like on a boat from Italy. There's like 1035 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 3: classic immigrant mentality in my house of like you can 1036 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 3: be a doctor or a lawyer, or a lawyer or 1037 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 3: a doctor, like those are your options. And I was like, well, 1038 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to be a doctor. And my parents were like, 1039 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 3: you are very argumentative about social justice. Are you sure 1040 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: you don't want to be a lawyer? 1041 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1042 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 3: And then like I did a play and was like 1043 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 3: I think I want to go to theater school and 1044 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 3: my parents were just. 1045 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck. I don't know, that's not like 1046 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 4: a real thing. 1047 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, they had like talks about it my freshman 1048 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 3: year in college and they were just apparently my dad 1049 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 3: was like, oh, Maureen, calm down, she's too smart. She'll 1050 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 3: be bored. 1051 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 4: She'll grow out of it, she'll grow out of it. 1052 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: Little did they know how smart you have to be 1053 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: to be an actor and to be a good as 1054 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 2: good as you are, you have to be little did 1055 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: they know? 1056 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 3: And then when I transferred and decided to do like 1057 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 3: theater and journalism, they were like, see, she's going to 1058 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 3: get a real job. And then I just became an 1059 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 3: activist actor and here we are. 1060 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 4: And here we are, the real job, working out real Well, sorry, mom, 1061 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 4: you you were like actually working working work from a 1062 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 4: young age. I was. 1063 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: So we did have performance in my family. And my 1064 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 2: grandfather was on Broadway and he was a stage manager 1065 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 2: and also an actor on Broadway. My grandmother grew up 1066 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: doing theater and did tons and tons of shows. 1067 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 4: My mom's mom's mom, like. 1068 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 2: My great grandma left the home, left home at nineteen 1069 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: to join the circus literally literally, So we do have 1070 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: all this family history and in art and entertainment. My 1071 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: skipped a generation with my folks. They both were like 1072 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 2: not interested at all in being on stage or having 1073 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 2: any Yeah. 1074 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 4: But your dad does the same thing. Like as actors, 1075 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 4: we diagnose like people's trauma and that's like your dad 1076 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 4: does that accounts with addiction he does. 1077 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he helps with drug and alcohol rehabilitation and also 1078 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 2: has been a counselor and worked in a lot of 1079 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 2: mental health facilities. 1080 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1081 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 2: I mean I had kind of had a wild childhood, 1082 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 2: just experiencing so many different kinds of personalities and lives, 1083 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: just all the ways, all the ways people lived in 1084 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: so many different environments, which definitely fueled the fire and 1085 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 2: being an actor because I was just so interested in 1086 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: people and all the quirks and the ways that people 1087 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 2: ticked and worked. And I saw so much variety because 1088 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 2: we moved around a lot too, so I wasn't even 1089 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 2: like stuck in a bubble. 1090 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 4: It was really great. 1091 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 2: But sorry tangent, but yeah, I think when I started, 1092 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 2: it really was just a hobby something. My parents were like, 1093 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 2: there's a there's a little theater school on the corner. 1094 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 2: Do you want to go do this? Since you don't 1095 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 2: really seem to care about sports. 1096 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 4: Soccer, do you want to do something? Yeah? 1097 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 2: And then I just fell in love with it, and 1098 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they knew enough to tell me, please, 1099 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 2: don't do this with your life. 1100 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 4: It's just so hard. 1101 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 2: And thank god they didn't because it's been amazing and 1102 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 2: it became a place I really loved. But now they 1103 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: didn't try and discourage me. They were happy to help 1104 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 2: and support my mother. God blessed when we moved to 1105 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 2: do when we moved to New Jersey, she drove me 1106 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 2: in and out of the city, you know, four or 1107 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 2: five days a week for voice lessons, dance classes, auditions, 1108 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 2: whatever it was. She just got a job that got 1109 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: her off at like two and she could just drive 1110 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 2: me into the city all the time. So they really 1111 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: made a lot of sacrifices to make it work. I'm 1112 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 2: glad it did. 1113 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 4: So cool. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Patricia. All Right, guys, 1114 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 4: are we gonna spin a wheel? Let's ladies, all right, 1115 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 4: we've got a most likely to have their own reality show? 1116 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 4: Tree Hill has a reality show? Is this a dance Scott? 1117 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 5: Dan Scott? 1118 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah too, I could see it was his a reality 1119 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 4: were a talk show? I had a talk show, all right, 1120 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 4: So who's got a reality show? Deep honestly, I think. 1121 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 3: Dev could start The Real Housewives of Tree Hill and 1122 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 3: I would watch And I don't watch any of those shows, 1123 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 3: but I'd watch her. 1124 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 4: Yes, m h, I'm on board for that. And also 1125 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 4: in real life, I would watch a show about Barbara 1126 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 4: and her daughters. 1127 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, why is that not on the air 1128 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: right now? No, But legitimately, someone needs to buy and sell, sell. 1129 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 4: And buy that they're such fantastic kids and they all 1130 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 4: have very different careers. 1131 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1132 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 4: Can you imagine a family of four blondes where each 1133 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 4: one of them has such a distinct like niche and 1134 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 4: they're all so different, but they all are still like 1135 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 4: Halloween freaks. They just had their pumpkin coming party. 1136 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 5: I wish I've been. 1137 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 2: Able to go to that party. 1138 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 4: God, they're so cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's the show. 1139 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 5: That's it. 1140 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for hanging out, everybody. 1141 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 2: I will see you next week, episode three of season six, 1142 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 2: Get Cape, Wear Cape Fly, see ya. Hey, thanks for listening. 1143 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also 1144 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t h. 1145 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 4: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com. 1146 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 4: See you next time. 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