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Speaker 1: Hi, Andy, how you doing, man, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: How's it going? I'm doing all right?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Andy's doing all right? So stair go.

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Speaker 3: People hit it and believe it or not, people hit

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Speaker 3: us up all the time, Fritchhurradio dot com, Fretchier Radio

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and they're like, hey man, They text us

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Speaker 3: sometimes too, and they're like, throw this out there to

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Speaker 3: the thirteen and see what people have to say about him.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes I think they they're reaffirmed, you know, their

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Speaker 3: emotions are affirmed. And then sometimes I think we just

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Speaker 3: crap all over people and tell them that they're dumb

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Speaker 3: and they need to start thinking differently. So how's it

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Speaker 3: going to be?

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Speaker 1: Andy?

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Speaker 3: Tell us what's going on, and then we'll tell you

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Speaker 3: if you're if you're wright, or if you're dumb, but

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Speaker 3: you got to start thinking differently. We will never call

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Speaker 3: you dumb to your face to hang up on you first,

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Speaker 3: but go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know, I just kind of

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Speaker 2: need some advice here. Like I mean, I've got a

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Speaker 2: wife and two kids. One of my kids is four

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Speaker 2: and one of them is nine, and like, up until now,

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Speaker 2: they pretty much agree. Me and my wife, we pretty

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Speaker 2: much agreed on like every major parenting that say. But

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Speaker 2: our oldest came home and he was asking if he

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Speaker 2: could go over to a friend's house.

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Speaker 1: For a sleepover.

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Speaker 2: And my wife was like, oh, man, that's like a

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Speaker 2: no brainer, Absolutely you should go. But I'm super again

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Speaker 2: sleepovers for a whole lot of reasons, especially at this age.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, my mom she was a school counselor,

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Speaker 2: and like through all of that, all I heard was

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Speaker 2: like the nightmare stories of all the bad things that

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Speaker 2: could happen at sleepovers, And so I don't know, for me,

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Speaker 2: it's just not really worth the risk. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: don't know everybody that's going to be there. I mean

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Speaker 2: that family have guns in the house, is all the

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Speaker 2: locker licked up? Is all the liquor locked up?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 1: Do they have a pool that's.

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Speaker 2: Unguarded and somebody could fall into Like my kid doesn't

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Speaker 2: know how to swim yet, And so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've just got so many worries about this, and this

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Speaker 2: is kind of like a firm ground for me, and

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Speaker 2: I'd rather just kind of pick him up late when

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Speaker 2: everyone's going to sleep, Like nothing really good happens after midnight,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, my wife just keeps saying that, like

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Speaker 2: she's worried that other kids are going to make fun

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Speaker 2: to go to the sleepover. And she's saying that sleepovers

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Speaker 2: are supposed to be like a part.

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Speaker 1: Of childhood or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But like, I'm just worried and I don't want him

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Speaker 2: we we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Their parents that well understanding. This is a whole new

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Speaker 3: like thing, like a whole new generation of concern because

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Speaker 3: when I was a kid, we had sleepovers all the time,

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Speaker 3: kids at my house, I was at their house. Girls

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Speaker 3: did it, Guys did it Saturday night. You know, they

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Speaker 3: did the whole thing. This is a very nighties thing.

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Speaker 3: But do the thing like where everybody was on the phone,

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Speaker 3: but it was only one guy talking to one girl

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Speaker 3: and it would be like, hey, do you like Fred?

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Speaker 1: But Fred was.

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Speaker 3: Listening in and then you know what I mean, It's

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Speaker 3: like this was like a normal thing and everybody would

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Speaker 3: other friend's houses. And I get that now all of

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Speaker 3: But this is I gotta be honest, This is something

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Speaker 3: that I'm only now being introduced to as a non parent,

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Speaker 3: the idea that sleepovers are not a thing anymore, or

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Speaker 3: for some people they're really not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let me.

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Speaker 2: Ask you something. When you I mean, I understand going

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Speaker 2: what I mean, there are people everywhere or nothing too bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. They have security

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Speaker 3: No, you know, they knew the parents, or they knew

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Speaker 3: if I saw something inappropriate. You know, they told me

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Speaker 3: I guess that was it was sort of on them,

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Speaker 3: I guess to prepare me for those possibilities. And I

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I understand people's concern, but like to

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I also understand that, But there's also

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Speaker 2: child peer pressure, like you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 2: I can teach my kid, hey, this is what you

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Speaker 2: But I don't know the other parents. I don't know

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Speaker 2: the other kids upbringing. So if my kid fears that

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Speaker 2: add my kids into doing it, then like I have

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Speaker 3: It's your call, Andy, I'm not telling you how to

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Speaker 3: raise your kid. But on the on the flip side,

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Speaker 3: couldn't that happen anywhere anytime. I mean, couldn't that happen

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Speaker 3: you know, and could not happen in public. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of things that could happen, and kids have to

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Speaker 3: have to, you know, equip our children. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: what do you think, rufil, You're the only one with

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Speaker 4: I mean, I never did sleepovers. Weren't a thing when

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Speaker 4: I like, I didn't do sleepovers as a kid. But

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Speaker 4: it's like you could only you just have to have

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Speaker 4: Like you can't control the other kids, like he was saying,

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Speaker 1: You don't know what the other kids will do.

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Speaker 5: Like siblings is a big issue right a lot.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like you just have to prepare your kids.

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Speaker 4: I know there's there's there's codes that kids had with parents,

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Speaker 4: saying that doesn't make me seem like like a loser

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Speaker 4: in that way. They could just have a special code

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Speaker 4: like you just have to prepare your kid the right way.

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Speaker 4: You you know, if they if you, if you're if

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Speaker 4: I think they'll be okay at a sleepover, you know.

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Speaker 3: But it's a very real thing. And we're getting a

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Speaker 3: text on both sides of this, but it's very the whole.

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Speaker 3: And I remember we talked about this few years ago

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Speaker 3: and I was like, are you serious? Is no sleep

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Speaker 3: And I'm not a parent, so I don't. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but I just know my upbringing and I know, you know,

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Speaker 3: well my sister did and her attitude towards it. But

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize there's there are a lot of people

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Speaker 3: over at somebody else's house.

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Speaker 5: They're not andy.

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Speaker 3: Let me take some phone calls and have a radio

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Speaker 3: one and if you can hear us and and see

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Speaker 3: what people have to say.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for calling man, have a good day, good luck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you too.

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Speaker 1: Eight five nine one one oh three five not happening

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Speaker 5: No, No.

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Speaker 6: And it's sad because, like you said, growing up, like

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Speaker 6: I was that girl who.

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Speaker 5: Would go to the sleepovers, you would have sleepovers.

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Speaker 6: But there's a lot of things that I feel like

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Speaker 6: that we did too. That includes staying home by ourselves

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Speaker 6: at the age of eight, you stuff like that, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like it's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 6: We live in a world that I think. I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's a more dangerous world, Like I don't believe that.

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Speaker 6: I just think that we're more aware of what's going on.

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Speaker 6: And I think my biggest issue with the sleep moover

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Speaker 6: I don't know who comes in and out of that house.

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Speaker 6: I don't know whose uncle's coming, I don't know, hurting

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Speaker 6: so many nightmares, so many And if you can protect

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Speaker 1: Will put on the flip side.

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Speaker 3: And again I'm not telling anybody how to raise their

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Speaker 3: own kids, but at what point then are we gonna

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Speaker 3: point you have to write like it's and so when it?

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Speaker 3: Is it when they're sixteen? Is it when they're eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Is it when they're twenty one? You know, at what

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Speaker 3: point do you say, Okay, Now, my kid's gonna go

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Speaker 3: is gonna be the first time they've ever been out

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Speaker 3: of my house. And I guess I'm just relinquishing all

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Speaker 5: Ondred percent.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not going to shelter my kids from the world,

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Speaker 6: the realities that we live, and I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: But if I can protect them from things like something

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Speaker 6: happening at a sleepover, then I'm going to try my best,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And like his is nine, so yeah maybe older, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: maybe older. And like you said, anything it.

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Speaker 6: Happened at any time, though, Fred, that's a very good point,

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Speaker 6: anytime anywhere.

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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to be, you know, protect my kid

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Speaker 5: if I can.

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Speaker 3: Jessica, good morning, Hi, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think?

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Speaker 3: And again, and I can only share what I know,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not a parent, so I don't know.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think you should stay. I definitely think

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Speaker 7: with parents, you know, we need to be able to

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Speaker 7: communicate and levels like this, especially but also as a parent,

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Speaker 7: like I don't allow my children to have sleepovers. I

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Speaker 7: did it once and it did not end well at all,

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Speaker 7: and I'll never do it again. Only my sister's house,

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Speaker 3: What do you think the sleepover thing? This? This dad's

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Speaker 9: I have an eight month old baby girl, and my

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Speaker 9: Your friends are in the future welcome to sleepover our

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Speaker 9: That now as an adult, you know, and she's horrified

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Emily, thank you, have a good day, you too,

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Speaker 1: Uh is it? Mirah? Mira, Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, frad.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so my sense on this.

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Speaker 11: I have four kids. I would absolutely allow the child

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Speaker 11: I think he's really kind of almost paranoid about what

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Speaker 11: This is going to be a fun of that first

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Speaker 11: I would not be worried about guns, alcohol in truct

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one of the things. I mean, my parents

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Speaker 10: Knew the people well to them, reach out to him,

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Speaker 10: make a phone call, gets tell him a little bit,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let the kids sleep over.

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Speaker 5: It's fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you know that. That's one side of

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Have a good day.

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Speaker 3: This is very polarizing because you've got people feel one

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Speaker 3: way or they are right, and there's nothing in the middle. Hey, Paul, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 12: I ricka, the parents take a little bit more responsibility

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Speaker 12: teach them how to actually make those choices themselves. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's all you can do though, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can shelter your kids, I would imagine

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Speaker 3: all you really can do is hope that they make

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Speaker 1: That's like, apparently one on one a shelter.

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Speaker 12: How could a sheltered individual have the capabilities and tools

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that it sounds like you're doing it the

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Speaker 1: But what do I know? Paul? Thank you man, have

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Speaker 6: Why does the sleepover consider? If you don't go to sleepover?

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Speaker 6: Why is that considered being sheltered? You know what I'm

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Speaker 6: I guess you have a bed at home? Can we

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Speaker 4: I mean it's also a trusting like you're gonna build

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Speaker 4: you don't trust them, and they they're gonna know that.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, Oh, you don't trust

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Speaker 5: Listen? I trust you. I just don't know if I

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Speaker 4: That's why you just prepare your kid for those situations,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I mean have things people are textingly

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Speaker 3: just a higher sense of awareness now, yes, And has

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Speaker 3: aren't a great idea for kids to be doing that

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Speaker 3: texting anybody. You know, there was none of that. Hey Michelle, yes, Hey,

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Speaker 10: Well, I have four kids, all of whom I have

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Speaker 10: I would not do it. I think too many there

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Speaker 10: what I have found through my experience is that there

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Speaker 10: Anything could happen. And if you've got a parent that's

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Speaker 10: Am I a light sleeper and I have a hundred

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Speaker 3: The door the door with I mean, fair enough, but

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Speaker 3: My house had all the fun stuff.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I'm just saying, like, what you're comfortable

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Speaker 10: that when I was, you know, thirteen, We snuck out

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Speaker 9: It's okay.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't occur to you to set a boundary with

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Speaker 8: Don't know how you're going to react in a situation

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Speaker 10: That is precisely it. And I do think there's a

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Speaker 10: big difference. And Fred, here's the thing. When you're seventeen, sixteen,

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Speaker 10: you have not been allowed to have the sleepover, I

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Speaker 10: when you're nine, your threshold you have no threshold. You

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Speaker 10: someone has essentially violated some sort of norm, because to you,

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Speaker 10: what's a norm? Like these are just your buddies. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: times have changed. You know what things are different? And

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Speaker 10: times have changed? And here's why the cell phone. Yes,

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Speaker 10: your kids can reach out to you. But guess what

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Speaker 10: Oh not even yes, absolutely that, but how about the

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Speaker 10: taking pictures of kids at a sleepover and posting them

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Speaker 10: to humiliating but.

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Speaker 3: Mache happens, and we got to go. But Michelle's there's

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Speaker 3: all kinds of possibilities. We can go down this road

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Speaker 3: all day. But the reality is, I mean, all you can, truly,

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Speaker 3: all you can do is equip your children, teach them

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Speaker 3: the very best you can. Eventually you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: put them out there in the world. And you're right, right,

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Speaker 3: A million things that can happen with the phone.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you, right, the differences, the differences a

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Speaker 10: nine year old cannot handle those the same way as

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Speaker 10: sixteen year old chimp. But a nine year old appreciate

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Speaker 10: the distinction.

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Speaker 3: But you're not allowing your nine year old to do

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Speaker 3: the same things you're allowing your sixteen year old to do.

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Speaker 10: Well, we're talking about a sleepover.

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Speaker 7: So that is the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're right.

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Speaker 10: I don't let them do the same things, absolutely, but

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Speaker 10: a sleepover is a sleepover. Yeah, A sixteen year old

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Speaker 10: can draw a line and see a boundary where a

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Speaker 10: nine year old cannot. I speak of someone who has

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Speaker 10: allowed to sleepovers. I'm someone who let it happen, and

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Speaker 10: in hindsight, I would put it off until they're well

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Speaker 10: into high school.

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Speaker 1: That's just fair enough. Thank you, Michelle, have a great day.

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Speaker 7: My pleasure you too.

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Speaker 1: Glad you called it