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Speaker 1: Everyone's new favorite song, Where will Belly sign? Jim Bowden?

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Speaker 2: With this tweet this morning, Cody Bellinger is mulling over

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Speaker 2: multiple offers from multiple teams and is expected to make

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Speaker 2: a decision shortly. That does usually mean decision in the

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Speaker 2: next let's call it twenty four to seventy two hours,

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Speaker 2: right where there's a soft timeline on the player and

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Speaker 2: representation side. I don't want to say it always is

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Speaker 2: the case, but it is often the case.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We started to hear the Kyle Tucker whispers last week,

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Speaker 2: and then within about twenty four to thirty six hours

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Speaker 2: the decision came. So I do think that we're going

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Speaker 2: to learn about Cody Bellinger's ultimate destination for the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six season in the next one to two days.

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Speaker 2: Mulling multiple offers to me aj and I know we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this a lot this week. This means I've

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Speaker 2: got the long term thing from the Yankees. I probably

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Speaker 2: have a short term offer from the Mets that is

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Speaker 2: at a higher yearly rate, and then a team like

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays might fall in either category. My guess

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Speaker 2: is that they're in the longer term category and maybe

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Speaker 2: kind of a hybrid of both where they still give

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Speaker 2: you an opt out somewhere within that deal as well,

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Speaker 2: just naming three that I think they are likely in there.

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Speaker 1: Do we really think that they're in there?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying just as Susan Slusser, she said they

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Speaker 4: need a bat in the outfield that can play defense.

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Speaker 4: Really well, hm, that sounds like Cody Bellinger. Why not

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Speaker 4: do I said it kind of as a joke, but

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Speaker 4: why not do what they've done with Chapman and they

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Speaker 4: did it with Snell. I'll snow onto the Dodgers, But

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers have also done these short they just didn't

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Speaker 4: want to tucker right short term deal. The Mets did

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Speaker 4: it with Boba Schett. Why can't Why can't the Giants

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Speaker 4: go to Bellinger and be like, hey, we'll give you,

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Speaker 4: you know, four years one hundred and fifty with an

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Speaker 4: opt out after the first two years. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: just throwing random numbers out there to get them there though,

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Speaker 4: and get the fans excited.

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Speaker 2: They're also not near the luxury tax number as far

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Speaker 2: as I'm doing my math here, So I've got the

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Speaker 2: latest number pulled up there at two twelve. The luxury

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Speaker 2: tax number is I believe in the two forties. So

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Speaker 2: they're still well behind that number. And the point is

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Speaker 2: that's when you start to get taxed and some penalties

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Speaker 2: start to hit you. They're not even close to some

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Speaker 2: of the teams that are involved that end up paying

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Speaker 2: essentially double.

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Speaker 1: We go over this all the time, right.

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Speaker 2: The teams don't look at it as, hey, I sign

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Speaker 2: this player, I'm really putting double the money together against

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Speaker 2: my payroll. They spread it out right, Hey, this is

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Speaker 2: the responsibility of our whole payroll. But from a fan perspective,

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Speaker 2: that is how the money is laid out.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: If they go over that mark, right like the Mets,

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Speaker 2: for example, if they spend thirty five a year on Bellinger,

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Speaker 2: it's more like seventy five for this coming season.

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Speaker 1: The Giants don't have to deal with that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The resources different rencheal is clearly there. Steve Cohen is

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Speaker 2: much more willing to spend. But it is a good

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Speaker 2: call for the sake of this exercise. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they're involved. So Kratz, what do you think if let's

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Speaker 2: say those are the three finalists, where do you think

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Speaker 2: Cody Goes? Does he go with the sexy new trend

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Speaker 2: of more money at a shorter term and still the guarantee.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's three years, but he gets a lot

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Speaker 2: more on the average annual value like a Boba Schett gets.

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Speaker 1: Or does he go with.

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Speaker 2: The Bronx safe I mean one spot, I don't have

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Speaker 2: to worry about anything else. They'll probably give him a

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Speaker 2: no trade clause if he wants, and he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to deal with these opt out contracts because he has

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Speaker 2: been a part of them in the past. He's made

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Speaker 2: good money off of them. So just curious where you

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's the Yankees. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a Bronx. And I think the worst thing for

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Speaker 5: the Yankees would be if the Mets would be getting

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Speaker 5: in a bidding war with them and they said. The

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Speaker 5: Yankees have come out and said, we're not going to

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Speaker 5: get into bidding war. Our offer is our offer, and

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Speaker 5: it's a very good offer. So you can't lose. You

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Speaker 5: can't lose Juan Soto and Cody Bellinger in two back

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Speaker 5: to back years. I just think I don't think other

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Speaker 5: that he's getting from the Yankees. Now somebody steps in

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Speaker 5: and does that'd be great for Cody if to beat it,

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Speaker 5: you know, the blue Jays have to beat the Yankees.

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Speaker 5: The blue Jays have to beat the Yankees offer, in

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Speaker 5: my opinion, for him to go to a place where

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Speaker 5: he hasn't been yet. And it seems like all indications

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Speaker 5: seem like he really.

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Speaker 3: Liked playing in New York.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest thing for me is the fact that

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Speaker 5: I don't think there is I don't know any players

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Speaker 5: that are like, it's fine, I'll just continue to go

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Speaker 5: year for year. There was one guy who said I'm

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Speaker 5: going to go year to year forever, and he signed

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Speaker 5: a three year deal too. But like you can say

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Speaker 5: all you want, I just think Cody's been through it

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Speaker 5: so much that it seems like completely outsider's view and

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Speaker 5: I completely co completely wrong. I don't know Cody at all,

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Speaker 5: But it's time to not always be the guy that

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Speaker 5: has to prove it. There's there's some semblance of it's

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Speaker 5: a it's a free agent year. I got to prove

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Speaker 5: it as a guy who always had to prove it

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Speaker 5: in a different way, like I had to prove it

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Speaker 5: to stay on a roster. That part can get it

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Speaker 5: can get tiring, it can it can get like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be the next thing.

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Speaker 5: And it's like instead of getting like in a groove

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Speaker 5: that I think the Yankees deal is going to end

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Speaker 5: up being the best deal for him, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's what he wants in his career and he'll end

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Speaker 5: his career as a Yankee.

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Speaker 3: That guy who wanted one year deals, he's out of

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Speaker 3: baseball now too. Just definitely, people who don't know you

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Speaker 3: have to figure you have to figure out who that

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Speaker 3: person is. Huh.

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Speaker 1: You could say the name Voldemort, right, Voldemort.

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Speaker 3: That will not be named.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I don't want to get I don't want

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Speaker 4: to get sued. I'm not saying it now you might.

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Speaker 4: That's so I didn't say it.

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Speaker 1: I don't care sue me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But maybe Bellinger the Yankees just is what it's like,

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Speaker 4: it has to happen. It's like the one once when

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Speaker 4: the Yankees traded for one Soda that offseason. It was

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Speaker 4: it had to As soon as Ron Soda was put

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Speaker 4: out there, everyone's like, he has to go to the Yankees,

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Speaker 4: and it felt inevitable. Right, Well, that's what I feel like.

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Speaker 4: This Bellinger to the Yankees feels like it feels inevitable

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Speaker 4: because honestly, we've asked all the experts, Jim bow and

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Speaker 4: Ken Rosenthal, every expert we have on and nobody can

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Speaker 4: give us another team.

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Speaker 1: Yes they can, well, I mean Mets in Blue Jays.

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Speaker 4: But that we've actually heard as like the Yankees have said,

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Speaker 4: here's our offer, this is what we're giving them, and

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Speaker 4: the Blue Jays and the Mets. Yeah, but then the

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Speaker 4: Mets go signed, but Shet the blue Jays do some

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Speaker 4: other things.

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Speaker 1: Well what though, see that's the X factor.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Again, I'm not skull boards. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's my question.

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Speaker 2: So going back to another CBA thing, owners and the

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Speaker 2: league want as signing deadline, why because it was help

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Speaker 2: controls pricing and then baseb for two more months would

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Speaker 2: be what would were talking about today?

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Speaker 4: What did Eric just say on here, wait, but this

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Speaker 4: is when he goes you know, but listen, when he goes.

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Speaker 3: Year to year, they put pressure on me. So I

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Speaker 3: knew I had to perform. Can you imagine if there

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Speaker 3: was a signing deadline on January second.

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Speaker 4: How much pressure would be on the players and then

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Speaker 4: teams would just sit back and go, We're just gonna

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Speaker 4: offer every we your buddy one year five million, and

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Speaker 4: people are gonna have.

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Speaker 3: To take it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know what happened, because you know why,

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Speaker 4: because they have to sign by a January second and

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Speaker 4: they don't get to play this year.

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Speaker 3: So guys, it would be be unbelievably stupid.

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Speaker 2: there are some people that are like, oh, I just

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Speaker 2: want to see the signings happen. Already they do happen.

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Speaker 2: They just trickle in. Owners change their minds. The Mets

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Speaker 2: can say whatever they want about Bobashet. They were not

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Speaker 2: they weren't getting Kyle Tucker. I could make the same

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Speaker 2: case for the Blue Jays and Cody Bellinger did we

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Speaker 2: hear them link to him, not much, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I do think they're seriously involved in someone like Cody Bellinger. Right,

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Speaker 2: they are losing outfielders after this coming season, and Belly's

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Speaker 2: bat fits there. You know, They've created a really nice,

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Speaker 2: versatile lineup that they think depth wise, is going to

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Speaker 2: get them through the season. But one more piece really

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Speaker 2: puts them over the top. In my mind, they're already

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Speaker 2: I think the front runner in the American League East,

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Speaker 2: but this would really be the icing on the cake.

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Speaker 1: They were going for Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 2: This is going to cost them less on a per

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Speaker 2: season basis for sure than Kyle Tucker. This crats is

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Speaker 2: why I think teams slash owners and front offices change

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Speaker 2: their mind or get involved in things very late in

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Speaker 2: don't have that activity. Right if Bo had to signed

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Speaker 2: by whatever date, then the Mets aren't in on Bo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, anytime you can have because situations change. Is

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Speaker 3: And I come in the Blue.

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Speaker 4: Here's my question, people that want to signing signing deadline. Okay,

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Speaker 3: What do the Braves do? You have to make a trade.

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Speaker 4: If you that's your free agent, you sign him to

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Speaker 4: Do you see like this is one of the because okay,

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Speaker 4: If someone like that gets hurt for the Yankees this year,

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Speaker 4: for us? Absolutely? Guys, Okay, boom, here you go. Here's

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Speaker 4: your one year whatever it is, ten, twelve, fifteen, whatever

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Speaker 4: they come to terms with.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pitchers should wait. Sometimes it hurts them. It hurts

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Speaker 2: We oh my gosh, every time spring training starts up

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Speaker 3: Once game start. They ran pp start. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 5: I have one comment if you want to if you

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Speaker 3: To know where they're going to go. Yeah, we all

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Speaker 5: If you want to, if you want to have a

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Speaker 3: You can't trade to Freddy Parolta.

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Speaker 5: Now that could be a player's point of view, because

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Speaker 5: I'd be up for a trade deadline ending January tenth,

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Speaker 5: we can't do any trades anymore.

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Speaker 4: We got to go after the guys who are left.

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Speaker 4: That that that doesn't make any sense either, because okayns

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Speaker 4: we'll put We'll trade them to another team for an

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Speaker 4: any Why do we want to put why do we

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Speaker 4: want to put trade deadline? Because also, hass On Kim

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Speaker 1: I can't find it.

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Speaker 4: I kf and Tim Anderson are on the MLB list. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so then they're not allowed to trade because he got hurt.

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Speaker 3: After that, it's dumb.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this is we don't need deadlines. You know

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Speaker 1: Right, because then you're rolling or about it.

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Speaker 4: It's usually about a week before opening day because they

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Speaker 3: But I remember the Braves.

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Speaker 4: When I was on the Braves, we traded kick Craig

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Speaker 4: Something crazy like that, right, So I don't know how

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Speaker 4: you can't have deadlines, No, especially in the off season.

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Speaker 4: You can't have deadlines for baseball because it plays out

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Speaker 2: They want their winter meetings to be bigger. So I

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Speaker 2: was like, maybe you do a trade deadline for a month,

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Speaker 2: you say, hey, last day of winter meetings is when

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. It's it's complicated.

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Speaker 2: Let's charge about Yeah, let's charge a mound and let's

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Speaker 2: he remains open to negotiating Schoobl's salary with the Tigers

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Speaker 2: before an arbitration hearing, using current comparable contracts, not outdated

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Speaker 2: benchmarks like David Price's nineteen point seventy five million in

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Speaker 1: Quote from Boris, we are open to negotiate. It's funny, Krat.

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Speaker 2: You've probably seen this because you've got kids for this age,

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Speaker 5: No, seen it.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: You saw it, right, it's Oliver. But I love this.

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Speaker 4: Do they care less about the twenty sixteen trend or

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Speaker 3: Have you seen that that's we don't have time to

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Speaker 1: But wow, I mean, I don't know that I've seen that.

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Speaker 4: David Beckham and his son and his wife. It's a

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: There is nothing more boring than a bad social media trend.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't care what you're doing in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: but in twenty fifteen, I do care that we're trying

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Speaker 2: Labor Relations Board is working with them, so they have

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Speaker 2: push this to twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight

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Speaker 5: It just depends on how far the Major League Baseball

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Speaker 5: They're sitting there going, Okay. Scott Boris has done nothing

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Speaker 5: he done the best for his clients and his future

439
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 5: clients clients Enter Price still in high school right now

440
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 5: that he doesn't even know he has yet the next superstar.

441
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 5: Trek Scouble is the next superstar. So he's trying to

442
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 5: push that level of where the arbitration process is behind.

443
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 5: And if landmark players like Tarrek Scuble, like Juan Soto

444
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 5: a few years ago, don't push this number, then major

445
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 5: League Baseball wins in if we're looking at arbitration as

446
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 5: a case of winning and losing, and Major League Baseball

447
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 5: looks at it as if we don't win this, this

448
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: is gonna be I'm not gonna say catastrophic, but this

449
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 5: really moves the needle. Do you have to do incredible things? Yeah,

450
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 5: you got to win back to back Cy Young's. You

451
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 5: have to be the best pitcher in your respective league. Well,

452
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: they don't have to look too far over to the

453
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 5: National League and say.

454
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Speaker 3: We don't do this. What could Paul Schemes get?

455
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Speaker 5: So Major League Baseball is going to dig their feet in.

456
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Speaker 5: And I don't think there's a number that Scott Boris

457
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 5: says is fair that Major League Baseball also says is fair.

458
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 5: I think Major League Baseball knows that nineteen million is

459
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 5: definitely well short of where they should be, and I

460
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 5: think Scott Boris thinks thirty two million is a little

461
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Speaker 5: bit over where they should be. But I don't think

462
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Speaker 5: I don't think that happy medium is going to be

463
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 5: a happy medium. I think it truly is a landmark

464
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Speaker 5: case that if Boris continues down the path that he's

465
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Speaker 5: always been, I think they win this case. I think

466
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Speaker 5: they win it because of the fact that it's so

467
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Speaker 5: dated back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen of where that

468
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 5: quote price should be for him for Scooble.

469
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Speaker 4: Okay, well, there's a couple of things on this one.

470
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Speaker 4: The fact that we're using twenty sixteen is crazy. Okay.

471
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Speaker 4: Look at the way that salaries have gone up twenty fifteen. Sorry,

472
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Speaker 4: the way salaries have gone up. Okay, But it was

473
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Speaker 4: his twenty sixteen salary that they went, right, wasn't it.

474
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: I think twenty salary just over ten years ago. Yeah, okay,

475
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: so it's crazy. Also, Boris has a couple of things. One,

476
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 4: they can because he's in his sixth year, they can

477
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: use free agent contracts and that is a huge help

478
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: to Trek's school. Well, especially when young guys like Verlander

479
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 4: and Schuzer have signed like one year deals for thirty

480
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: forty million, these short term deals. Guess what that helps

481
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: the player in these negotiations. Now, MLB of course wants

482
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Speaker 4: to go low. I don't think that they thought that

483
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Speaker 4: that Boris was gonna go this big. I thought they

484
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: were like, oh, we'll go nineteen, Boris will go twenty five, right,

485
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: But he went thirty two. So now there was a

486
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Speaker 4: monster gap in between here the middles twenty five and

487
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Speaker 4: a half. So Boris is probably like, hey, you get

488
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Speaker 4: to twenty eight, I will think about it. But that

489
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: would be such a huge jump for the league to

490
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Speaker 4: go from nineteen to twenty eight, because then as soon

491
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Speaker 4: as if they say yes to twenty eight, then once

492
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Speaker 4: Skens gets to this spot or someone else down the road,

493
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: they're gonna be like, well, five years ago, Terrek School,

494
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: we got twenty eight. I have a Rookie of the Year,

495
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Speaker 4: maybe two or three Cy Youngs, this or that. I

496
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 4: should be thirty five, right, depending on how you know.

497
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 4: Everything goes with salaries. So that's why MLB's fighting so

498
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: hard for this now. The other thing is there's also

499
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Speaker 4: a third component in play here. The owners hate arbitration, okay,

500
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 4: because they don't want arbitrary. They've had one arbitration since

501
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: the player's got arbitration, Marvin Miller back how many ever

502
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: years ago, right, So if they can prove that Trek

503
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: School is not worth more than David Price was in

504
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, that's another chip they can put on their

505
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: negotiating table and say, look, guys, your best pitcher he

506
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: got screwed in arbitration. We don't like arbitration, maybe you

507
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 4: guys shouldn't like arbitration either, and they can try and

508
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: get rid of it. They could use that in the

509
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: CBA and say, one of your best players on the field,

510
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Speaker 4: could you know you got what a guy fifteen, you know,

511
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: almost twelve years ago less than what he got right,

512
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: And they can and then the Players Association is going

513
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: to go, well, you know, maybe we should look at

514
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: changing this. So again, there's a third thing in play.

515
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: And I know the overriding factor in all Major League

516
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: Baseball right now. It's just damn CBA. And I'm already

517
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: tired of talking about it. I got we got like

518
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: twelve more months to talk about it.

519
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 2: It's a factor in everything that happens right now. But

520
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: also here's another factor. The arbitration panel, unless stuff has changed,

521
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: is three humans, right, three humans, and they make their

522
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: case to each other on where they're going to vote. Right,

523
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: So even if you get one one side one the other,

524
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: there's going to be someone that splits this up. Every

525
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: once in a while there's a case where it seems

526
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: obvious that one side's going to win and the other

527
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: side wins. Why Because these people are not the most

528
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: educated on baseball and they want it to be that

529
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: way for some reason.

530
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, they want it because.

531
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Speaker 4: They're not supposed to be influenced whether they're like have

532
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 4: a team or whether they have something going on, right,

533
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: so they never they don't want that. And again, is

534
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: someone that's been through this problem. I've been in this process.

535
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: I've been in this room. I've been through this whole thing.

536
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Speaker 4: They don't tell you why you won. They don't tell

537
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: you why you won. They don't tell you what the

538
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: number was they came to a conclusion on. They just

539
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: give you a U win or you w. And there's

540
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: no explanation. This isn't like a law case right where

541
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: the law after the lawyer, the judge makes a decision,

542
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: then they write like a thing explaining why they made

543
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: this decision or why they're doing this, or like the

544
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: Supreme Court will we voted this way because of this

545
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: case back one hundred years ago, whatever it was. They

546
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: just say, hey, Scooba one the tigers. There is no explanation.

547
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: It's a you get one phone call from your age,

548
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: they call the union, They call the owners, and the

549
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: union calls you or your agent. They say you won,

550
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Speaker 4: you lost, and there's that's it. It's over and that's

551
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: what you get. But there's no explanation, there's nothing.

552
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: The problem with that is these people want to keep

553
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: their jobs, and this is the biggest case of all time.

554
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: So I do think they're going to be weighing which

555
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: side holds more influence in them keeping their jobs. They're

556
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: human beings, that's a part of it.

557
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: Right.

558
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: They get compensated nicely to be able to handle this,

559
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: So they get a nice.

560
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 3: Vacation for two weeks in Arizona or Florida, depending on

561
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: this year, it's in Arizona, so they get a nice

562
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: little vacation.

563
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Speaker 1: There are factors at play.

564
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Speaker 2: It's like, you know one of those movies where both

565
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: sides are trying to pick the jury and it gets

566
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: all crazy.

567
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: Remember that one movie.

568
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: It was like you who is it, Gene Hackman, I

569
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what I'm talking about. It's like

570
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: that where they're like figuring out is this person going

571
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: to be for us or against us? And obviously these

572
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: people have their jobs on the line if they get

573
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: fired for it, right, I mean, I'm saying if they

574
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: picked the wrong side, and then the other side's going

575
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 2: to try and fire them. All right, let's talk Hall

576
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: of Fame. Today's the day. The announcement is going to

577
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: come around six. I think that's when the show starts.

578
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: You'll probably get the announcement at like six forty five

579
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: or something. That's TV for you. They keep you there,

580
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: they give you the commercials. But anyway, eventually we'll find out.

581
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Speaker 4: You go through all one hundred candidates on the list

582
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: and explain why each one should be in the Hall

583
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: of Fame.

584
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Yep, they do the whole song and dance, or you

585
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: can just check Twitter later on. But anyway, yeah, it'll

586
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: probably be close to seven people. No, it's a good show.

587
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: It's worth while and you get to hear from some

588
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: of the guys. But anyway, many people are going to

589
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: be watching this our show and listening to our show,

590
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: and we already have an answer. So what do you

591
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: think of Beltron probably getting in and Andrew Jones.

592
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: And Andrews last year. No, so he's got one more right.

593
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: But what I've been doing.

594
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Is that if he doesn't get in this year, he's

595
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: a lock next year, which is I think.

596
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: Just because and this is not knocking to any of

597
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: the guys on the ballot, because you can say, oh,

598
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: you know, you didn't get any of that.

599
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: I was on a ballot. I got two votes.

600
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 5: Okay.

601
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 4: So before there's just not a surefire first ballot Hall

602
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: of Famer of the new guys that were added this year.

603
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: So that's how when they say, oh, guys give big

604
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: bumps and jumps and all this, it's because there's certain

605
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: people that are taking off the ballot bonds Clemens. Those

606
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: guys are now gone, and then the new group comes

607
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 4: in and there is not a lot of sure fire

608
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. I don't know if there's a there's

609
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: definitely not a first ballot Hall of Famer on this

610
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: new list. But I don't know there's a sure fire

611
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer on this new ballot of list of guys.

612
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: So you'll see a bump for oddly Rawlins, Felix, Andrew Jones,

613
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: these guys, right, hopefully Burley Tory Hunter will get some bumps. Right,

614
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: it looked like Andrew Jones was a lock, but then

615
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: they always say, well, if he's at seventy percent or whatever,

616
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: eighty percent, then that falls because the people who don't

617
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: release their ballots it's not always, not always the number

618
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: that usually come in lower than what the people that

619
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: release them. So I'm pretty sure Beltron's going to get

620
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: in well deserved, and I'm pretty sure that Andrew Jones

621
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: is going to get in US, if not this year

622
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: then next year.

623
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Speaker 3: So well deserved.

624
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: Man, I mean, it's it's awesome, what an amazing achievement,

625
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: especially for those guys. And listen, if Andrew Jones gets

626
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: in from you know, Cirasol and down there, that's a

627
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: big thing for that island down there.

628
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh.

629
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Speaker 2: I've been on the Andrew Jones train for a while

630
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: now because I think he's getting punished for the late

631
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: stages of his career. But I think he had enough

632
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: of a prime window, especially now with the way that

633
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: boating's going down, and I'm fine with it. We just

634
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: had this conversation on a different segment. The voting process

635
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: has to change because you're not going to hit some

636
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: of those milestone numbers and Andrew Jones actually put up,

637
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: like some of the counting stats are looking for, say

638
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: home runs.

639
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Ye, he's the.

640
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Best defensive center fielder, if not top three, of a

641
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: long period of time right of an era. One of

642
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: the best all time, the whole deal, like you had that,

643
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: and he wasn't a nothing on offense. He was a

644
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: very impactful offensive player for a good chunk of time,

645
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: and then he went through something that's natural, it's called

646
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: the aging process, but he still played for a bit

647
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: and that hurt his rate stats. So I think that

648
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: the crowd has been off on him for a while now,

649
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: and it appears as if it'll finally fix itself, either

650
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: this year or next year. I was also surprised to

651
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: see Beltron, I forgot, has already been on the ballot

652
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: for several years. I think this is his fourth run

653
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: at this point. But anyway, overall thoughts from your crats.

654
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Beltron's the best switch hitter that

655
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 5: I ever saw alive. I mean, I saw Chip Jones

656
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: at the end of his career. I saw Beltro Beltron

657
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: a little bit closer to you know, a little bit

658
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: more closer to his prime because I think they played

659
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: like three or four more years after after Chipper Jones.

660
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: But those two guys, and I think, you know, I

661
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: think it's a he was probably one of the more

662
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: underrated players because he was in k C and nobody

663
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: really knew about him until he burst on the scene

664
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Speaker 5: in Houston. I think Andrew Jones, like obviously it's Hall

665
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: of Fame voting time and everything. Some of the stats

666
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: that are coming out there about his about his defense,

667
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: and like different guys that you would respect what they

668
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 5: said about the fact that I think Bobby Cox was

669
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: the one that said he's the second best altfaer he's

670
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 5: ever seen, behind Willie Mays. I just think it's I

671
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: think it's something. I hope both of them get in

672
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: and the whole like waiting the whole wait another year.

673
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: I think that would suck for Andrew, So I hope

674
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 5: he gets in this year. I hope he gets in

675
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: the skin of his teeth.

676
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: By the way, if Andrew does get in, which I

677
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: hope he does, again, I fought this fight Tory Hunter

678
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: and Jim Edmonds, he's not even on the ballot need

679
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: to be looked down more closely. I mean, Jim only

680
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: had eight gold gloves, but he's got you know, ops

681
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: plus a one to thirty two.

682
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: Andrew Jones ops plus is one eleven. I mean that's better, though.

683
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: That's what do you think is hurting? Okay, what do

684
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: you think is Torris.

685
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: Okay, but Tory Hunter. I'm gonna just this is just

686
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: Tory Hunter. We get Jim Vans, and obviously I have

687
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: a special place in my heart for Tory. We've played

688
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: together from the minor leagues all the way up. Gold

689
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: Gloves nine Andrew Jones ten. So nine years in a row,

690
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Tory Hunter won the AO Gold Glove. Andrew Jones did

691
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: it ten years in a row. Tory Hunter two Silver Sluggers.

692
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: Andrew Jones won either won a World Series, five All

693
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 4: Star Games. Andrew Jones in two thousand and five did

694
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: win RBI total and a home run title. Okay, fine,

695
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: more games for Tory bet thirty three point higher batting

696
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: average for Tory. Now he's eighty home runs behind, so

697
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: that's fine. But more RBI's five hundred more hits, almost

698
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: one hundred more runs, almost over one hundred more doubles,

699
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: more triples, less strikeouts.

700
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I got plugging for Center's.

701
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: Almost closed on base, almost close ops plus one eleven

702
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: to one, ten war sixty two point eight to fifty.

703
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: That's the big one.

704
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: That Okay, but if you look at the stats, play

705
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: should but explain to me how Andrew Jones has sixty

706
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: two point eight war and Tory Hunter has fifty war?

707
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: So was there twelve point eight war in that one?

708
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: Gold extra gold gloved Andrew one. That's what I don't understand,

709
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: because if you if I line their numbers up next

710
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: to each other, other than the home runs, okay, Tory

711
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: has them in almost every other category. So why is

712
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: Andrew like, oh that Andrew Jones asking I watched Tory

713
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: Hunter for a long time. He was the best center

714
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: fielder I ever saw on a daily basis, Jones, I

715
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: didn't see Andrew Jones on a daily base I saw

716
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: Tory Hunter play every day in centerfield.

717
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: I was catching.

718
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: I'm watching him play centerfield for year after year. This

719
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: dude was making catches and I never saw anybody come

720
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: close to.

721
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: Making Why do you think he's being held back. I

722
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: don't think that's being held back because he's They're both

723
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: great dudes. They're very I don't know, they're very affeable.

724
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: They've always been that guy. There's no controversy around him.

725
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: To me, there has to be a reason. I don't

726
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: think somebody just looks up and goes Tory Hunter. Yeah,

727
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: I thought he was a good player, But what was

728
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: his war? No sorry, never mind, Like you're talking about

729
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: a dude that has over three hundred home runs and

730
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: has nine gold gloves. Like to me, that takes that

731
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 5: takes effort then to go, okay, I have to I

732
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: have to rethink this.

733
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 2: I think some guys are getting punished for playing for

734
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: a long period of time from rat stats, so like

735
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: you can't figure out it's like, okay, so you played

736
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: too long or you didn't play long enough.

737
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I just I think they both

738
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: should be in.

739
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: Jason Stark, who we have on the show often and

740
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: is looked at as one of the games history, and

741
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: voted for Tory Hunter this year.

742
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know anyways, that's just my that's my soapbox.

743
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm on this year because I love Andrew. I played

744
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: with Andrew, I played with Tory. I think I think

745
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 4: it's kind of like if this guy gets in and

746
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: this guy has for me, It's like Andy Pettitt and

747
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: Mark Burley. If Andy Pettit gets in, the Mark Burley

748
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: has to be in right behind him because if you

749
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: look at their numbers and.

750
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: What now Pettitt.

751
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: The one thing Pettitt had, though, was he had the

752
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: postseason because he was on the Yankee so he got

753
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: the postseason, so everybody knew him a little bit more.

754
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 3: Right, That's kind of what happened with Andrew Jones.

755
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: And everyone goes, well, look at Andrew Jones, is like

756
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: those ten years when he was winning gold gloves. Okay, Well,

757
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: Tory Hunter had nine really unbelievable years too, and he

758
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: won those gold gloves, right, so he play longer. And

759
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: then we go like, we'll use Joe Maller an example.

760
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: Everyone's like, well, the six years Joe Maher caught, he

761
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: was so great, first ballot Hall of Famer, right, Well,

762
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: I mean if you pick anybody's six best years, if

763
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: they play long enough, you can make argument that a

764
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 4: lot of guys are Hall of Famers.

765
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know it. It's this is why the

766
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is still polarizing.

767
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really tough to find center fielders that did

768
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: it all right.

769
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: We still have problems with that.

770
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: I mean Jim Edmonds still look at Jim NaN's numbers

771
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: and he won eight Gold Gloves, right, I mean he

772
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: wants he won championship. I mean there's there's you know,

773
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: Kenny Lofton is another one that's an interesting case. And

774
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: if as the numbers in the in the perspective changes,

775
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: it just opens it up to more arguments.

776
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it's because Do you feel like

777
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: it's because Tory started his career a little bit later?

778
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 5: I mean by the time Tory was an everyday guy

779
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: cares then? I mean Andrew Jones was already in his

780
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: what fifth season?

781
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: Do you think it? Who cares when you start? Yeah,

782
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.

783
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: Listen, Tory was a slower developer. He was gonna quit

784
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: and go play football. I mean, listen, I was there

785
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: for all that stuff. But toy, we've had him on

786
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: many times. He's one of the best dudes in the world.

787
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 4: And so for people to say, well, you can't do

788
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: you want to what do you want to?

789
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: Check?

790
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: His personality? He was awesome, right, He played all the time.

791
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: He never won, but he was on winners. Andrew Jones

792
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: never won a World Series to him, but he never

793
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 4: won him. He didn't win the one on the ninety

794
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: five team. Really, Oh, he was later than that.

795
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: He was he came up in ninety six, so he

796
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: never won and he went on the ninety five team, right.

797
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a song ninety eight Braves, you know,

798
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: got out done by that Padre magic Morgan Wallen, Right, yep,

799
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: he was on that dam the Jones Boys. But I

800
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 4: don't know, it's just I don't know. We could argue

801
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: about this until we're blue in the face.

802
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both great. I'm just going through stats and

803
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: all that they both have my vote. That's all we

804
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: have time for now. But we can do any aftermath. Yeah,

805
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna slap in a sec. We can do any

806
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: aftermath on what we end up seeing with who gets in.

807
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: But also I want us to do it today. Maybe

808
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: we'll do tomorrow in case there are any other stray

809
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: single vote getters.

810
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that.

811
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: It's just a that's a fun show topic for a

812
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: few minutes. But anyway, let's lap. We're looking at case

813
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: case studies.

814
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: With Yeah, I'm looking at another team, Burley versus pettit

815
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: and I'm showing like it's tight. It's there's so much

816
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: you can put this and that It's like, Okay, so

817
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: Petti gets in because he had more postseason, but that's

818
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: not Burley's fault that we weren't as good as the

819
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: Yankees were for all, you know, So That's why I

820
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: have a hard time when listen when Burley pitched in

821
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 4: the postseason, he pitched well. He closed the game out

822
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: drunk one time. So anyways, whatever I see drunk stats

823
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: for each player. Yeah, I bet, I bet a birth

824
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: won wins. I can name you some other guys that

825
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: did some stuff too.

826
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a fun segment.

827
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Anyone want that last thing today besides Kratz hat, Let's

828
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: do that and then I'll load this up.

829
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 5: I really found my Minnesota Twins hat, and I'm not

830
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: sure they found the off season yet. So I feel

831
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 5: like if somebody needs a really good defensive outfielder that

832
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: also for power, Twins could make a huge splash by

833
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 5: trading someone who doesn't want to be traded in Byron Buxton.

834
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: Except you will at the trade deadline when they're terrible.

835
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: They signed Victor Caratini, which is nice. I didn't even

836
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: know that was the fit they needed. Because they have

837
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: Brian Jeffers, maybe they're going to trade him. I can't eat.

838
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to get mad. It's only Tuesday Rangers Fest,

839
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: so they're not doing signings at the winter warm up appearances.

840
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: I think they're going to do signings at the fan fest.

841
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: But they're doing like their little stop by situation. It's

842
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: a long tweet. So they're saying that the autograph memorabilia

843
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: seekers that hagub all the time and they bring a

844
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: billion things are causing lines to get longer and other

845
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: fans to miss out on stuff. So there's back and

846
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: forth discussion on what that is. Can you also just

847
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: limit someone or if someone goes up there and be like, hey, dude,

848
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: you get one signature?

849
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're supposed to do that, but then the problem

850
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 4: with that is Kratz knows, is if someone comes up

851
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: to you with five and then you're like, okay, I'm

852
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: only supposed to sign one. Then the guy's like, oh

853
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: but I waited in line for an hour, and then

854
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 4: there's the security guard there that you know, and then

855
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: it makes you feel bad.

856
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: So you just are like, I just sign them real

857
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: quick and get them the heck out of here.

858
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: What about one signature per person?

859
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: And you look yes, and then they say, but I

860
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: have two kids.

861
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: But they're saying I have two kids, no signatures, two kids?

862
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: They can share it, okay, teach them sharing.

863
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm not again, I'm not about taking away from the fans,

864
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: like I love the fan experience the autograph. These events

865
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: get crushed by the autograph seekers. One autograph, these guys

866
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: will do it, will well, they'll do it. They'll put

867
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 5: on another jacket, they bring changes of clothes to get

868
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 5: back through the same line again. So it's it really

869
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 5: has gotten watered down for the people that the autographs

870
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 5: would matter. And I promise you, coming from a player,

871
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 5: we want to sign the autographs for the kids, for

872
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 5: the people who they're like, oh my gosh, I don't

873
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 5: even know who you are, our crats, but thank you

874
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: for signing it. Like that means a lot to the players,

875
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: not the dude that comes with the binder and is.

876
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: Like I've just got six, can you just do six?

877
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: And that's for me. Like the guys who are really

878
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 5: who are actually good players, they get crushed by stuff, crushed.

879
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: And then they pay the kids to get the rest

880
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: of them. I mean, that's a real thing I've heard. Yeah,

881
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: well I'll say this.

882
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: We had a thing, we had our twentieth anniversary with

883
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: the White Sox issue, right and they came and said, hey,

884
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: we want to do autograph stations for all the players,

885
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: and I said, well, do we get paid, because normally

886
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: when I do sign autographs, I get paid. And they're like, no,

887
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: this is just for the fans. I'm like, well, the

888
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 4: fans have to pay to stay in line and they

889
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 4: were like yeah. And I'm like, I'm not signing.

890
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense.

891
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: And they said why not? And I said, well, where's

892
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: the money going. They're like, well, really, give me an answer.

893
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, if the players aren't getting paid,

894
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: how about we I go, how about this, We'll just

895
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: do pictures.

896
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do pictures like this.

897
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 4: And you know what, it's actually kind of cool because

898
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: everyone comes up, they're happy to see you, and they're like.

899
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: Hey, smile, they have a story for you. Right. Justin

900
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Blasco is in the chat all the time.

901
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: He came up and man, I think it was Paul,

902
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: me and Jermaine and we were signing, and people could

903
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: go from one stage to the other and get their

904
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: picture with whoever their favorite players, and you had time

905
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: to make too write. It was cool because you actually

906
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: get to talk to the people and shake their hand

907
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: and meet them, as opposed to you're just looking down.

908
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: You're like, right, I'm a picture over autographing because it's

909
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: more of.

910
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: A personal experience than just the autograph line. I'm sorry

911
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: it is. And even for the players it's cool because

912
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: then the guy, the man or woman who ever comes

913
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: up to he says.

914
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: Hey man, this is my favorite you're my favorite player.

915
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: This is the memory I have or this is what

916
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: I and you're like, this is ridiculous, this is awesome.

917
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

918
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: It's like excepting when you.

919
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: Get done, you're you're like, oh, I need hand sanitiz

920
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 4: or I gotta wash my hands like five times, because

921
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: you know, shaking everyone's hand and my hands get dirty.

922
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: Their hands are dirty, gets tiring.

923
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: But that's just so many no, I said, I'm saying it.

924
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: That's not fun physically either.

925
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: So this was fun. Thanks everyone.

926
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh tomorrow, JJ Cooper, big day for Baseball America.

927
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it tomorrow.

928
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: Cedric Mullins need Tampa Bay Ray outfielder and Derek Johnson

929
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: to talk pitching as well as anybody in the game.

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00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: Good guest list tomorrow. We'll see you then. And remember Saturday,

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Speaker 2: we have a show. Baseball Writers Association of America Awards

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Speaker 2: will be streaming live