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Speaker 2: Donks, look at us now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January sixth, twenty twenty one, and it

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Speaker 1: is time, donks for Morning Combat. Today is going to

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Speaker 1: be an absolutely batshit day in American history because about

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Speaker 1: a mile from where I live right now is just

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Speaker 1: craziness all the way around. So let this show Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat bring you some sanity, some regularity, some normalcy to

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Speaker 1: your lives. Hello. Everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: am one half of your hosting dual. I'm from CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by the King of Connecticut not named Apathy.

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Speaker 1: He's the conspiracy to my theory, the one and only

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, also from CBS Sports. Hi Brian, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fine, Luke. Nobody wants to hear about your

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Speaker 3: local bs by the way, Okay. They want to hear

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Speaker 3: what they want to rise. They want to risen shine

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Speaker 3: and hear about some Japanese Mma. Okay, so can we

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Speaker 3: please get ready? I mean, look, I got some heavy

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Speaker 3: reading to do. Looking up these gains while you finished

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Speaker 3: telling me about what the streets of DC are.

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Speaker 1: Gonna look like. Good God, oh shit, you got the Encyclopedia, bro.

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Speaker 1: That thing will change your life. I got this when

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Speaker 1: I was I think nineteen or twenty years old.

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Speaker 3: Look, please tell me you're just now realizing that I

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Speaker 3: own this?

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 3: I mean one you could see by my physique, but.

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Speaker 1: I am just now realizing you own this.

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Speaker 3: This is probably the third time in the last week

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Speaker 3: that this book has made an appearance on screen at

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Speaker 3: some points for stretches that have extended more than a

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I know you like to think I just

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Speaker 3: I mean, wake up and smell the gross water that

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Speaker 3: the hot dogs get cooked in. Please, Luke, come on now,

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Speaker 3: how are.

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Speaker 1: You doing otherwise, Brian? Aside from dismissing the federal concerns

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Speaker 1: that are happening just a couple of miles from where

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Speaker 3: No, I hope you guys are all safe and they're

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Speaker 3: in our country. By the way, I hope can mend itself.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Luke. It's a new year. You know

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Speaker 3: that means no limits. Okay, So every week we're just

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Speaker 3: go crazy from seasonal winter depression. So that's fun, you know,

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Speaker 3: but we'll get through it. Look, we you know, we're

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Speaker 3: doing great, doing great. Here shout out to my favorite

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Speaker 3: Hemp and few seltzer Klo by the way, keep going,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should point out that you know that Kalo

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Speaker 1: probably helps you do a really great UFC two fifty

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Speaker 1: seven preview with CBA Sports's Sugar Rashad Evans. It is

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Speaker 1: up on the YouTube channel right now. We should post

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Speaker 1: the video before this one. In the feed, you guys

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Speaker 3: without really getting into what will happen. But it's a

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's COVID, maybe it's the holiday season. A fight

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Speaker 3: that drum now, right, let's bang that thing like, let's

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Speaker 3: def leppard that thing. Let's bang that thing right, Come.

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Speaker 1: On, man, does that mean bang it with one arm?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Shout out to that guy. Right, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to today in terms

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, fair Fair, you look a little bit

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Speaker 3: you get into the actual show, Luke, I did want

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Speaker 3: here show, right here, right, Jason Aaron about the slander

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Speaker 3: job you did over his music career aspirations on Monday show.

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Speaker 1: Me how about how about we?

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Speaker 3: He had not seen it up to this point. Shocker, right, Jay,

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Speaker 3: be back with a response to to your continual uh

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Speaker 3: this is me editorializing, but your continual destruction and of

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Speaker 1: You are the one that put it. And have you

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Speaker 1: to get to a bit of news BC. So it

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, there's nothing. It's just it's just hard to

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Speaker 1: there are any plans, but we do work for Viacom CBS.

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Speaker 1: ended poorly with the Strikeforce Nashville card fair enough, it's

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Speaker 1: The answer is yes, but not with this card. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely think he could again under the right circumstances.

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Speaker 3: a disaster. If Chandler comes in there, big guns, big balls.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's talking about beating Hooker so badly that

432
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: he could convince Habib to come, you know, to not retire,

433
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 3: to fight him. Yeah, it would look bad if he

434
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: got starched. But anything short of that, Luke, an action loss,

435
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: a competitive loss, he's gonna be fine. In fact, this

436
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 3: is in play. Let me tell you something that's in play.

437
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: We did an exercise on cbsports dot com. Something that

438
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: you hate, Luke, good God, do you hate this type

439
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: of thing making bold predictions for the damn New Year predictions?

440
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: It's just masturbating the.

441
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: Artist, shooting from the hip right, shaking up that champagne

442
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 3: bottle without a sonia and just you know, I mean,

443
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: just just doing that thing. And I'm like, you know,

444
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Speaker 3: what's a bold prediction. The great Michael Chandler could come

445
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: in guns blazing into the UFC in twenty twenty one

446
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: and lose two fights in a row and still you know,

447
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: be considered great.

448
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: Cold.

449
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: It's just that we're in a killer lightweight era. It's

450
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: in play that he could lose to Dan Hooker. Let's

451
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: say he rebounded against anybody in the back half of

452
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: that top ten. It's in play he could lose that fight.

453
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: I mean, look, match him up against the Kevin Leeah,

454
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: Paul Felder, any of those type of guys. You're like,

455
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: it's good ass fight. I gotta see it. So the

456
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: whole point is short of just getting dominated. He's gonna

457
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: be fine. It's more about the debate of the top end.

458
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Speaker 3: How much will Dana and company look to give him

459
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Speaker 3: the world if he comes in there and beats Dan

460
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Speaker 3: Frickin Hooker and his UFC debut, does he cut the

461
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 3: line in front of Gatchee and Olivera, I mean, does

462
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: he How far do they want to push this guy

463
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Speaker 3: knowing they're gonna have a short window of really fun

464
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Speaker 3: action fights. And he's a great fighter. He's a great dude.

465
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Speaker 3: We've never really seen Dana like overly pushed the guys

466
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Speaker 3: who came over from Bellator. I mean, look, Eddie Alvers

467
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: got every opportunity and he cashed in those opportunities. But

468
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, they gave him a pretty big fight here

469
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: to kick off. So I think it's more about where

470
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Speaker 3: can he go if he wins, if he loses, and

471
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Speaker 3: and it's a fun fight, He's not gonna go that far.

472
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Speaker 3: Luke right, it didn't.

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Speaker 1: Kill I think I think there's actually a possibility where

474
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Speaker 1: he could lose and his stock might even go up,

475
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Speaker 1: which is to say stock in terms of are you

476
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Speaker 1: the best at lightweight would take a hit no matter

477
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Speaker 1: what if he lost to you know, again, not some

478
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: controversial decision, but like a fair way to say that,

479
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, Dan Hooker won, Yes, I mean his stock

480
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: in that sense would take a hit. But if he

481
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Speaker 1: goes out there and this is very much you know,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't think that this is likely, but if he

483
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Speaker 1: has a kind of I'm gonna say, you know, a

484
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Speaker 1: version of Lawler versus Condent, you know where it's just

485
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Speaker 1: I'm talking balls to the wall action. These two guys

486
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: are trying to kill each other for the duration of

487
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Speaker 1: the contest. This one will be three rounds, not five.

488
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Speaker 1: You might say to yourself, Jesus Christ, like this dude

489
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Speaker 1: is just going forward. I mean, we knew he did

490
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Speaker 1: that before, but maybe in different ways than he even

491
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Speaker 1: did because even against Benson Henrison the first time he

492
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Speaker 1: went balls out but then you know, have to really

493
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Speaker 1: resort to the wrestling. If he doesn't do that, if

494
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: he just goes out there and just absolutely bludgeons the

495
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: guy and gets bludgeoned in the process, you know, the

496
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Speaker 1: UFC staff might say, Okay, well, maybe he's not the

497
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: best lightweight on earth, but we got to get this

498
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Speaker 1: guy back in there. They got to get this guy

499
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Speaker 1: in rotation. He is. He is exactly the kind of

500
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Speaker 1: thing we're looking for. So I actually think that there

501
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Speaker 1: is a way where I should say that there are

502
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Speaker 1: there are real, I think plausible scenarios where a victory

503
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Speaker 1: is excuse me, a loss, I should say, for Michael

504
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: Chandler is not in anywhere even close to the end

505
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Speaker 1: of the world. To your point, though, what would be

506
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: a bad thing is if he goes in there and

507
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Speaker 1: gets out classed. I think that's the part where you're

508
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: trying to say, Okay, you know, getting finished by Dan

509
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Hooker's not the end of the world. It doesn't ruin

510
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: your career. Gilbert Burns got finished by Dan Hooker, but

511
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns was younger and moved up a weight class

512
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Speaker 1: and just got a lot better. You don't really see

513
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Speaker 1: those opportunities possible for somebody like Michael Chandler at this

514
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Speaker 1: point at age thirty four, if you get out classed,

515
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: even Forreddy Alvarez losing to Donald Seroni, you have much

516
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: less opportunity to repair the damage that could come as

517
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: a consequence, particularly if you are measured and careful and

518
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: you throw your best weapons at them and they don't work.

519
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: If you throw your best weapons at Dan Hooker and

520
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: they work pretty well but not enough in the end.

521
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Speaker 1: Because Dan Hooker's, you know, a very special talent. I

522
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: don't think it's that big a deal. But if you

523
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: actually try to beat this guy and you look poor

524
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: in the process, that would be very, very very bad

525
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: for him. I think it would damage his stock considerably.

526
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Speaker 3: Because I'm sorry for cutting you. People think all I

527
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: do now is cut you. I remember when, back in

528
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: the days when people just get mad that you would

529
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: cut me off. Luke, one day, I'm just gonna cut you.

530
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Speaker 3: How about that one?

531
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Speaker 1: Just to help the audience understand, we're trying to talk

532
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: to each other through zoom, and it's hard to sometimes

533
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: hear or stop. It's not like a normal conversation.

534
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: But you don't get conversational cues. Look, obviously you could

535
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: go disastrous Will Brooks great Belator Champion, disastrous UFC run.

536
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: But do you remember what do you remember two scenarios,

537
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: One when Eddie came over and lost the Cowboy and

538
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 3: two when Benson I'm sorry, when Anthony pett coming off

539
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: of that Benson Henderson fight went from WEC to UFC,

540
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, this guy's gonna freaking, you know, start

541
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: printing the Wheati's box. In fact, screw Weedies. Let's get

542
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: a good ad. Let's put him on the Booberry or something.

543
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: Let's put on something that actually tastes good. And they

544
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: lost to the damn carpenter. Right in either situation, the

545
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: Guida loss for Pettis or Alvarez, do you remember thinking

546
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: that their stock got destroyed or just oh man, that's

547
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: tough loss of a tough fight.

548
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Why don't you answer it for me?

549
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

550
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: I remember just being like, oh, that sucks. I thought

551
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: this guy's gonna win a title. But he fought well,

552
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 3: he fought hard. Let's see him again. So obviously, Chandler,

553
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: I think, isn't even well. I don't want to say

554
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: a much bigger action fight potential than those two names.

555
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: Anthony Pettis and Eddie Alvarez both bring the freaking action.

556
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: But yes, you're right, he could be. He could lose

557
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: twice and be the new Justin Gaetchee for the UFC,

558
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: the new shiny toy that you throw in there and

559
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: you make fun action fights. You never know we'll see.

560
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a lot to gain here, win or

561
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: lose for Chandler. And I'm loving Luke the Dan Hooker quotes.

562
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: Did you see that specific quote that he gave to

563
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: some Australian podcasts where he said, you're gonna give me

564
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: the new toy. I'm gonna break the new toy real quick,

565
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: he says, Luke. It's a horrible style matchup for Chandler,

566
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: and Hooker believes he'll need less than five minutes to

567
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: break him. I love when people talk tough, all right.

568
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: I love that shit.

569
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we started what it means for Dan Hooker. So

570
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: and by the way, we'll do the reverse of this

571
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: as time gets closer. But it is worth sort of assessing, MEC.

572
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: What if Dan Hooker goes in there and a has

573
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Speaker 1: a great action fight and wins or B just looks dominant,

574
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Speaker 1: like the kind of Hooker that beat. Let's say at

575
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns again, that version anyway of Gilbert Burns. Dude,

576
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Speaker 1: would he skip the line? Would he get a title shot?

577
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: Would they want to have a situation where you have

578
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Speaker 1: Atasignya maybe with one two belts possibly and then another

579
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: guy from that region plus Volkanovsky? I mean, can you

580
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: imagine what he would mean for that gym, for that region?

581
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: That would be there's massive implications there for a guy

582
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Speaker 1: like Dan Hooker.

583
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, massive implications. And anyone here is ready to print

584
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: you a CKB T shirt. I'm sorry, I'm with you.

585
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: I think at Asnia is the greatest things in Slice,

586
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: but I think Dan Hooker's right behind him, even though

587
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: he gets into a little bit lead too, willing to

588
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: get into wars. Look, does your ck be hard on

589
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: go all the way down the roster to like Kai

590
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: Kara France? I mean, where does your infatuation end with

591
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: that club?

592
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: It's not that I think that they're the best club

593
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: on Earth. It's that I think that the guy who

594
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: runs the club is one of the sharpest minds on earth.

595
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Atasania is the very best version of what they have

596
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: to offer and then he goes down from there. But

597
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, do I have respect for Kaikr France. Yeah,

598
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: so I think he's the best flyweight in the world. No,

599
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't think there's evidence to conclude that. But I'm

600
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: curious to see what Brad Riddell can do. I mean,

601
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: he's one of the actually one of the more experience

602
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: and credential kickboxers in the entire UFC, So be curious

603
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: to see what he can do. And Shane Young, I

604
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: think is a is a good talent, you know. But

605
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: it's not that everyone there is outa Sonia, it's that

606
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: the guy running it. I don't think people realize how

607
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: smart he is. And if he lived in the United

608
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: States and could just recruit from, you know, the the

609
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: vast amount of people that were here, I honestly think

610
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: he would be, if not the preeminent MMA coach, something

611
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: pretty goddamn close to it.

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00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: You know, would be really fun if we got Eugene

613
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: Berriman and your brother Matt Thomas together. We only used

614
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: your brother to make those burgers with like the steak

615
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: inside of it, and then maybe the maybe maybe to

616
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: pass around the peace pipe and then we just picked

617
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: Eugene's brainstem. Right, that'd be that'd be a fun night

618
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: at the office local.

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Speaker 1: That would be. That would be a fun night. You know,

620
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Speaker 1: My brother would not be good for the conversation. My

621
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: brother graduated from My brother got I think his PhD

622
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: in math, and he graduated recently, didn't tell us, didn't know,

623
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Speaker 1: and actually was so good in his He went to

624
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: University Virginia for all of schooling, was so good. He

625
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: won some kind of award for like outstanding accomplishment in math,

626
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: and literally did not. I had to find out about

627
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: this from my dad. My dad was like, hey, you know,

628
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: Matt graduated, got his blah blah blah, I won this

629
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: award and I was like, I'm sorry. When like, oh yeah,

630
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, I was like, dude, your DM's

631
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: never stood a chance with that guy.

632
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: What do you think woul happens sooner? Matt Thomas responded

633
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: to my dms giving me dirt on you or Rob Thomas,

634
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: it's not three am, because that I'd be a pissing

635
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: if it was. So he must be lonely watching this show.

636
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Wow, what will happen? First? The desert will be flooded

637
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: or the Arctic will be full of sand.

638
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, either way, Luke Hooker Chandler or a fantastic

639
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: fighting If Hooker, this might be the biggest win by

640
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: a Hooker since the plot lined a pretty woman?

641
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Right, hell, cut it out?

642
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, okay, let's probably the closest, probably the closest

643
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: to Hooker got to the UFC title since that time

644
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Speaker 2: in Dana's office.

645
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, cut it out?

646
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: Man got more, I got more?

647
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: Bro all right? Last question, what is better for the

648
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: lightweight division for Michael Chandler to win or Dan Hooker.

649
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: That's a tougher question to answer.

650
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a there's a wrong result here, right,

651
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: but I do think that to steal a term from Okay,

652
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 3: upper bound limits is a Luke Thomas term. Dan Hooker

653
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: has a higher upper bound limit to win the UFC

654
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: lightweight title. I believe that Michael Chandler does. But Michael

655
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: Chandler has a much higher upper bound limit. God, that's

656
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: so weird to use your terms to be an action.

657
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: Never take calculus.

658
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, for a factory town. So did

659
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: I sit in the class? Was there a listen book?

660
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes? I may Escalante taught fucking calculus to all the

661
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: boroughs in south central LA. If they can learn calculus there,

662
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: certainly you could learn calculus in Connecticut. No money.

663
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean I was from

664
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: a very armpit area of Connecticut though. Okay, like the

665
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: grunt workers of the state holding it together.

666
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't actually believe that, but okay, it.

667
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: Could come with me. Come with me, okay. In fact,

668
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: we'll bring the cameras. That'll be part two of our dongumentary. Uh, Luke.

669
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: What I was saying was, you know, damn it if

670
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: I remember, No, Chandler's got a higher ceiling as a

671
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: b side to a pay per view tru or false obviously, right,

672
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Chandler's an action star. He's gone, you know.

673
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's true.

674
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that would make it, if you want to

675
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: do this question better for the UFC if Chandler won, Yeah,

676
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: because I mean, is Chandler Gatchee and Chandler Connor and

677
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Chandler Tony bigger fights than Hooker in those spots? Yes,

678
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: they're bigger fights, Luke. And that's the whole point of

679
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: who's it better for.

680
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I would say that it's impossible to go wrong either way.

681
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: I think you would probably agree it doesn't really matter

682
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: who wins. UFC is going to have a great situation

683
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: on their hands. I do wonder like on some level

684
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: they probably want a balance. They probably want a fair

685
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: number of American champions that they can take around to

686
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: American media outlets, that the American media could get familiar with.

687
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: And on the other hand, I bet that they also

688
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: are English speaking, certainly if they're going to be international, right, so,

689
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: how many do we have that are local? How many

690
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: do we have that international? Because they want to be

691
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: able to brag about both uh and does Hooker fit

692
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: into those plans? Obviously out of sign If it's into

693
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: those plans in a pretty major way, they're gonna give

694
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the guy an opportunity to leap frog the division and

695
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: get a title shot in a division above his Does

696
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Hooker meaningfully add to that? I tend to think that

697
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: he might, But I don't know what the UFC has

698
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: in mind. But it's always into to think about is

699
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: what kind of ance do they want with elite championship

700
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: level fighters between international and the home grown? And where

701
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: they all fit in. It'll be interesting to see, all right.

702
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: Point number three here, BC, I do not know what

703
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: the UFC has against Leon Edwards, so we all know

704
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: that that fight is off. We talked about it on Monday,

705
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: the Leon vers fight with Kamzat Chimaiyev, who apparently is

706
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: now boys with Ramzan Kadirov, which is a whole other story.

707
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: But we really though, Luke, or can we separate the

708
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: art from the artists and let pe friends or vote

709
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: for whoever they want?

710
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Luke? Okay, here's the here's the thing on that. This

711
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: is what MMA fans love, all right. They love the

712
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: ambiguity enough to give exoneration. They never love ambiguity for

713
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: anything other than exoneration. And not just MMA fans, said

714
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: the MM community in general, right, because there's media guys

715
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: who do the exact same thing, which is to say,

716
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: do we really know of Ramzan Kadirov is actually boys

717
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: with the people that he forces to have dinner with

718
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: him or asktab dinner with him? Are they like minded folks?

719
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Are they just doing it because they don't want to die?

720
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: And no one really ever knows the answer to those

721
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: kinds of things. It's very very hard to tell. I

722
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: suspect a fair number of them don't actually want to

723
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: do it, but because they live in this gray, this

724
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: moral gray, where it's like, well, we don't know, but

725
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: they're probably doing it on some level for self preservation,

726
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: but maybe not. Oh well, you know what, let's just

727
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: decide that that means that they're probably doing it just

728
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: for self preservation, rather than coming to any other conclusion

729
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: about their moral culpability here. And I don't know why

730
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: that's the default. I don't know why we always have

731
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: to say, well, because it's plausible that they just want

732
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to do this for self preservation, it must mean therefore

733
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: they're doing it for self preservation. We actually don't know

734
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: that either. And I don't know why the reflex is

735
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: the one that's more charitable, But okay, I.

736
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: Think to the extent that, again another Luke Thomas forced phrase,

737
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: people are just upset that you put qualifiers upon your

738
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: MMA analysis. You'll be like, hey, Hanson rising prospect and

739
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: good god, shitty conspiracy DMS or something, you know, like no,

740
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: it's like, no, is she a rising prospect or not? Luke,

741
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear who she voted for. I mean, look,

742
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: I do that.

743
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I do that all my breakdowns. I don't really get

744
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: into any other stuff on my breakdowns, but on these

745
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: shows that are about the wider perspective of sports, it's

746
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: fucking malpractice to not mention it every time, all the time. No,

747
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: but enough that it matters.

748
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, look people have that.

749
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: And also those people can suck my balls. I mean,

750
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: let's just be real about it.

751
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: They don't know what the wow, Luke. You know some

752
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: people have friends in low places.

753
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, you mentioned at a signa

754
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: jacking off with that champagne thing that you showed on Monday. Remember,

755
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: I was talking about the dude and the white dude

756
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: in the back who had hit Ata Signa's belt and

757
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: was like cheering him on. As as that dude DM me,

758
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: did I tell you that?

759
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: No? No, I love this story.

760
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Here he dm me the other day. Who showed him

761
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the video? I don't know. I don't know how he

762
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: didn't tell me how he got wind of it, But

763
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: here's what he wrote me. I thought this was actually

764
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: pretty funny. His name is Joey. I don't know what

765
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: his last name is. He goes. Let's be honest, bruv.

766
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: If you watched Izzy jack Off, you'd be hyped two

767
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: smiling emoji, laughing emoji, water shooting emoji.

768
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: You know, sadly, Luke, I bet a a dissected video

769
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: would follow that that experience, Yes, yes, I do.

770
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Can I say he's wrong? BC? I cannot say he's wrong?

771
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: We look? You know you again? You can't pick who

772
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: you love, right?

773
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: I mean?

774
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: Did I wake up one day and say I'm going

775
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: to be the biggest advocate for Kevin Lee one day

776
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: winning a UFC title? I didn't plan it, Luke. Okay,

777
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: you know he planned that headtat. I didn't plan this,

778
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: but I'm going to go down with that ship if

779
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: i have to, because you know he's got that talent.

780
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: I'm a big yan A fan trying to stay away

781
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: from the IG. Hopefully one day in twenty twenty one

782
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: you and her can do you know, Luke, how mad

783
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: would you be if I like, because you think I

784
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: Osama been sabotage you constantly? Okay? How mad would you

785
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: be if I was like, hey, Luke, I just guess what.

786
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: I just secured a big ass interview and You're like ohho,

787
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, uh, Dan, Hooker. I got Dan Hooker

788
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: on Thursday three o'clock. You want to join me on

789
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: this street? You're like, yeah, brother, yeah, and then we

790
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: get on and you already go there. I'm like, Luke,

791
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: so sorry, Dan couldn't make it, but good news I

792
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: got you. Want to hear she is bam? How mad

793
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: would you be?

794
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: I'd be mad, not less, because one I don't have

795
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: anything to say to her. And two why would you

796
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: be dishonest with me? Why couldn't you just be honest

797
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, we should do a you want

798
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: to interview together? You know what I mean? Like, pitch

799
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: me on it if you want me to do it,

800
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: Like just be a man about it.

801
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, be a man, hogan. Okay, I'll be

802
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: all right.

803
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: All right, I'm forty, I'm a man. Come at me.

804
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, my guddy, thank you all right. I

805
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: would never trap you like that, Luke. All of my

806
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: bits are all good natured. Okay, Please tell that to JMMA.

807
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: They're all good natured, okay.

808
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Please, Yeah, exactly. That's that's why I like him. I mean,

809
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, either we'll do things or we want but

810
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: we're honest about what we're doing here. All right, so

811
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: Leon Edwards is obviously here's a fight with Knsechama I

812
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: have been replaced by Magne versus Kiesa. We talked about

813
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: the ladder of those two fights once a theoretical one's

814
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: going to happen, and how much we liked it. Sort

815
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: of broke it down. But Leon Edwards BC said something

816
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, which is that quote. I offered to

817
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: fight Neil or Kisa in the main event January twentieth

818
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: and Shamaiah straight after, but the UFC decided against it.

819
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Edwards said this on an Instagram post. Why would the

820
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: UFC decide against it?

821
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: The lack of context here makes it too easy to

822
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: continue the narrative that Leon Edwards can never get ahead.

823
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: Why does UFC hate him? You know? Is his given

824
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: name Loretta Han Edwards Like, what the hell's going on here? Sorry,

825
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell Edwards, what the hell's going on here? But

826
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: I think that we need to know the full context.

827
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Did they turn it down because they love the the

828
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: Hamsat Shamaiah fight even more? Do they look at Shamaiah

829
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: as their next big, giant, big thing and they think

830
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: going through Leon Edwards with an eight fight win streak

831
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: is the best way to legitimize that guy while getting

832
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: rid of a fighter they don't want to market. Could

833
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: be It also could be there thinking, you know, we

834
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: do want to make moz Vidal Covington this spring, but

835
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: if we can't make it, we might as well do

836
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Masvidal Edwards before Edwards stops being a thing. They did

837
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: have that backstage fight over the three piece, so maybe

838
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: it's good news like that, Luke, and maybe it's not

839
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: like nope, fu right.

840
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the lack of context. We don't have the UFC

841
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: side of things. My guest, here's my best guess on

842
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: this BC, and it's just that a guess is that

843
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: because Chimaiav is out, not because he tore an acl

844
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, because it's COVID and they can usually get

845
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: a quick turnaround again to get them back into action

846
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: once they've had COVID. Not all the time, but there

847
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: tends to be a fairly quick ish rebooking process when

848
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: one of the competitors gets COVID. My thought is they

849
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: still want to hold on to it for the reasons

850
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: that they made it, because there's going to be a

851
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: quick turnaround. Now, I don't know if that's actually accurate.

852
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: If they're going to do it, when that's going to be,

853
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. If that is the reason, right,

854
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: they still like to fight, they can make it in

855
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: reasonably short order. Let's keep things as they are. Okay,

856
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I understand that, But one, I think Edwards should be

857
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: financially compensated to at least to some degree. And then two,

858
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: if that falls out for any reason unrelated to anything

859
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: due to Edwards, they have got at that point to

860
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: put him on a card frankly against almost anyone. At

861
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: that point, you can't keep deglaing this guy's The thoughts

862
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: is what July of twenty nineteen, in many ways by

863
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: no fault of his own, which we've been over a

864
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: million times. I just think, if you're gonna keep delaying him,

865
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: and you have the best reason is that it's just

866
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: a very minor delay in the grand scheme of things. Okay,

867
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: But if that falls through, at that point, all bets

868
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: are off. You gotta take care of the guy, and

869
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty reasonable.

870
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: You could argue, you know, I'm not in the business

871
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: of protecting the USC's interest, that if they didn't care

872
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: about him, they would let him fight in this main

873
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: event at nine am Eastern on a Wednesday morning against

874
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: a difficult style matchup in either guy, and just hope

875
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: that he loses quietly, right, So you'd have to believe

876
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: that there's better news coming.

877
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: Luke, you would imagine, you would imagine that they're trying

878
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: to roll all that out. Dana White did a Q

879
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: and A yesterday talking about how Francis versus stepe A

880
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: two is tentatively set for April. He also sort of

881
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: hinted about some other fights that they were working on,

882
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, there's no way to really

883
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: to know this. We're just dealing with two little amount

884
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: of information. But I just feel like it's like, dude,

885
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: at some point, you got to get the guy back

886
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: in there. You just just make it happen. Yeah, Okay.

887
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: One of the things that we know is now rebooked

888
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: is UFC two fifty eight, February thirteenth, Kamara Usman taking

889
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: on Gilbert Burns. Okay, BC true or false? It is

890
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: much better for the welterweight division and the potential matchups

891
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: that it sets up for kamara Usman to retain his

892
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: title on the thirteenth of February.

893
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: Much better. I mean maybe because he had such a

894
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: great fight with Coving and there's a built in war there,

895
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: and you know, he beat Mazvidal and on short notice circumstances.

896
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: What if they did a full camp, Maybe there's better

897
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: stories to tell. And they've already invested enough in Uzman

898
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: and he's you know, lived up to expectations each time

899
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: they've made a larger investment. Yeah, business wise, probably a

900
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit better for them, But he's

901
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: not a giant, massive star, And I'm really interested in

902
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns's chances in this fight. God, this is gonna

903
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 3: be a great fight. Look, this calendar year is gonna

904
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: be freaking insane in the UFC IM and every two

905
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: weeks we got a great fight. Sometimes we got really

906
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: big fights. Sometimes we got really big fights that are

907
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 3: also great fights. This is just a great ass fight.

908
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm glad it's happening. I'm glad Burns didn't lose the

909
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: spot in the line. Yeah, better for Usman, dude, Uslan.

910
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: It's funny we did, you know, the typical predictions that

911
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: you hate also of you know, who's gonna close the

912
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: year as champion. Even though this fight's really hard and

913
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: you can make many a case for Gilbert Burns to

914
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: win it, and I may end up making that case

915
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: when the time I feel more confident about Usman ending

916
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: the year s champion in his division then I do

917
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: most other champions. So this guy's rising. I don't think

918
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: we've seen the best of him yet. I think that

919
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: little tease we saw of the wrinkles he added with

920
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: Trevor Whitman for that masvidof fight, it's only gonna get better.

921
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just sort of go through the matchups.

922
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: So let's say Usban wins, and again in a way

923
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: that's not controversial, whatever that means, the rightful winner was

924
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: Usman gets his hand raised. Okay, now what do you have?

925
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: You have Usman versus Colby two that you could do.

926
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: You have Usban versus Joge two. I don't think you

927
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: could go right to it, but you could. It's it's

928
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: certainly somewhere down there in play, right, those would be

929
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: your top two choices at that point. If Gilbert wins,

930
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: you have a fresh set of matchups at that point,

931
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: because you could do Gilbert versus Kolby, you could do

932
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Gilbert versus Jorge, you could do Gilbert versus Kumaru two.

933
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: If you wanted there to be some kind of a

934
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: rematch at that point, let me pull up the rankings

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: to see what else is up there.

936
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: You're you're forgetting the idea that if hamzat Chimaiah beats

937
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: Leon Edwards and does so in the fashion that he

938
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: has been doing, you're not going to keep him out

939
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: of a title fight in twenty twenty one. Luke, You're

940
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: not going to do it. You're you you personally you're

941
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: not going to do it.

942
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: That's probably true because Eleon Everds is currently is sitting

943
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: at three, but you have wonder Boy at five, and

944
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: from there, no one's realian titled contention because six is

945
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: whatterly seven maya eight ks, so we'll see what happens

946
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: with him. And Magnia is sitting at nine and VI

947
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: sent to Luki at ten. But still those guys are

948
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: still they're fresh rising contenders, but they're not in title

949
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: contention just yet. Still, I feel like you get brand new,

950
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: fresher matchups with Gilbert, but I think you get more

951
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: lucrative fights by doing it with Kamaru. Like of all

952
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: the of all the permutations I mentioned, BC, what fight

953
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: from a commercial standpoint, And I'm not saying it's a blockbuster,

954
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: but what fight is bigger than KAMARW versus Colby two?

955
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: Kamorrow versus Jogey two?

956
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, what am I saying? Colby versus Jogey? But

957
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: that's not for the title. I'm talking about if Gilbert

958
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: wins or KAMARW wins? Right, so one of them has

959
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to be in it. What is a bigger fight for

960
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: tomorrow from a pay per view standpoint? Which one is

961
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: a bigger main event than that?

962
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: Horay?

963
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: Jorge two? Okay? Yes, but I mean he just lost.

964
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: You can't go back.

965
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: But he's got to come back and beat somebody, which

966
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: which is kind of why maybe they should throw the

967
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: on Edwards at him and just cash that in. I'm

968
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: not saying that's an easy fight for Jorge. I'm saying

969
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: there's a built in storyline. We have to see it.

970
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: If Jorge wins. Dude, you're you're back to banging that

971
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: drum to get him back into there, you know what

972
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Sorry, We're back to doing that, all right? Yeah?

973
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: Man? Do you want to see the UFC make Jorge

974
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: versus Colby independent of any kind of title? Yeah?

975
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: I would love that fight. I would love that fight,

976
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: but I don't think they have to force that. But

977
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: when I say force, I mean you want both of

978
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: those guys to potentially be tomorrow Ustman's b sides in

979
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one after the Gilbert fight. If Kamoraw's gonna

980
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: fight three times this year, you kind of want the

981
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: second to be against Kolby. The third gets Horey, right,

982
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you have to have them

983
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: against each other right away now. Typically UFC matchmaking, they

984
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: will fight each other because they always tend to circle

985
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: around and make the best fight the best. But if

986
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: you were trying to keep both of their brands alive,

987
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: there are competitors in this sphere, from Steven Thompson to

988
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: Leon Edwards that you can match people up against.

989
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: Sure, you're right, I'd be interesting. When has the comsat

990
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Tomaya do. If he goes in there and beats the

991
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: breaks off Edwards, which you know I'm not declaring to you,

992
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: is likely or inevitable, I don't know, but let's say

993
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: he does. Dude, for sure, he's getting a title shot

994
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: after that. Edwards is sitting at three. Your top contenders

995
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: are Kamaru, who's unranked one is Colby, two is Gilbert.

996
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: Would they bypass Colby to give Chamayav a title shot? Yes, yeah,

997
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: they absolutely would do that, right, I mean, is there

998
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: any doubt in your mind they would do that.

999
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: No, they would do that. I'm more interested if we

1000
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: can get a loser leaves Town final four bracket going

1001
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: with Lawler would Leaedo on one side, Matt Brown and

1002
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: Condent on the other. Winners face off all losers retire into.

1003
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: That you're you're a bad person. You're a bad person.

1004
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Yes is the answer. I'm into that, Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

1005
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: oh there it is.

1006
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you very much.

1007
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, last decision.

1008
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: Making I make in front of the rollers at Cumberland Farms,

1009
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: you know, like, nope, nope, can't nope, won't do it. Yeah, yep,

1010
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I'll take three of them.

1011
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: So you know what, I'll just have just give me

1012
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the fucking store. I'm gonna buy the store, all right, Last,

1013
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: but not least, I didn't think much of this. People

1014
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: seem to think that there's a whole lot to this.

1015
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't. But okay, maybe you're mioligible vari Dana White, was,

1016
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, characteristically going after people in his comments because

1017
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: somebody had written through some you know, you know, I'm

1018
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: Clownpenis dot fart you know seven eight nine three four

1019
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: on Instagram wrote that they could not wait to pirate

1020
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: UFC two fifty seven, to which Dana responded, can't wait.

1021
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: Excuse me? The data responded with, and I can't wait

1022
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: to catch you. I have got I'm gonna translate the

1023
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: English here. I have a surprise for you motherfuckers this year,

1024
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: b C. What is his surprise?

1025
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking there's a few different things. One

1026
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: could be a four minute hit job video showing all

1027
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: of their faces. Luke right to just say, like all

1028
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: these people try to come against my business. Uh uh two.

1029
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone's going to lead the charge

1030
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: on figuring out how to try to in any form

1031
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: stop piracy, which seems like a it seems as losing

1032
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: of a battle as trying to stop performance enhancing drugs,

1033
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: right your whole drug testing debate. It's to me, it's

1034
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: one and the same. I feel like the abusers are

1035
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: going to be ahead of the people trying to shut

1036
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: them down, you know, from as easy as just taking

1037
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: a like periscope and putting it to your TV and

1038
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: people watching it. I mean, look, people are gonna find

1039
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: it on the damn dark web. But if anyone's going

1040
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: to be ahead of the game at putting doling out

1041
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: some serious fines and or arrests, and really spending the

1042
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: money to police it, it's obviously Dana White and company.

1043
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: So it's interested to see how far they will attempt

1044
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: to go. I don't think he just does a vailed

1045
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: threat there without some plan in place. Interesting Dezone is

1046
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 3: now shutting down anyone Luke who put out any form

1047
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: of video on Twitter from the Ryan Garcia not only

1048
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: the knockout and the win, but they banned my video

1049
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: of Kate Abdoll making that sperm joke. In fact, my

1050
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: Twitter account was shut down for a few hours the

1051
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: other day because the Zone slash Performed group went after me.

1052
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: So maybe that maybe Dana has new weapons in his

1053
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: arsenal to try to stop this, or you know, maybe

1054
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: he's got a new reality show. Dana White found a

1055
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: fight where him met Sarah and Dean Thomas knock on

1056
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: the doors of all the people who were caught in piracy,

1057
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: and maybe they beat their ass right there or or

1058
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: bring them to a top of a cliff and take

1059
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: their shirt off and refuse to jump. Either or it's

1060
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see.

1061
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean people were asking me. I had people

1062
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 1: emailing me like, oh, is this one of those new

1063
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: pieces of legislation that passed with the Stimulus bill where

1064
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: if you guys have paid attention, it made illegal streaming

1065
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: in certain cases a potential felony, tenures in prison. A

1066
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff could go wrong for you. But

1067
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: if you actually read the legislation there, it's designed for

1068
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: people who are actually broadcasting the streams, not for individual

1069
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: users who might be consuming it. People calling me in

1070
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: the middle of my show, So so no, I don't

1071
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: think it has anything to do with them. Are there

1072
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: better tools now to detect piracy than there used to

1073
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: be on various forms of social media or the web?

1074
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure that is the answer, but this brings up

1075
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: a bigger question to MEBC, and let me see what

1076
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: you think about this. You mentioned the doping debate, which

1077
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: is kind of funny because actually have views. I didn't

1078
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: really connect them in this way, but now that you

1079
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: mentioned it, I think I should Where is there some

1080
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: level of piracy that's if not good, you should just

1081
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: leave a loan. Let me make the case for just

1082
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: a second. I'm not sure that the answer is yes,

1083
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: and it might just be yes by virtue of just

1084
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: the way the world works. But here's how I think

1085
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: about it. If everybody pirated, that would just be totally untenable, right,

1086
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way a business could survive, and

1087
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: it would just be you know, mass illegal behavior would

1088
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: just not be right, right, So that's not okay. On

1089
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: the other hand, what if there was zero piracy, I

1090
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: mean absolutely not one person able to get something that

1091
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: they did not pay for. To me, you'd be excluding

1092
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: probably a lot of fans, because we know, not a

1093
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: lot of fans, but enough of a portion of a

1094
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: fan base where it's very expensive to be a fan

1095
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: from enjoying your content. Which is to say, is there

1096
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: a small but relevant segment of fans where the extra

1097
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: mile you have to go to police them is a

1098
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: expensive for your business be even if you caught them all,

1099
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't meaningly change your business fortunes. And see, they're

1100
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: still fans and they get to enjoy your product. Yes,

1101
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: it's illegal, Yes, this is not a thing you would

1102
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: want to extend beyond a very small and manageable group.

1103
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: But in that narrow scope, is piracy okay?

1104
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it is.

1105
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

1106
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: So you're saying if I got a if I got

1107
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: a fast food restaurant and I and I know people

1108
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: are stealing some of the items, but hey, it's good.

1109
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: At least they'll eat it and tell their friends it's

1110
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: good and come back and buy it again. I don't

1111
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: see where that's a plus. If you want to make

1112
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 3: the argument against cracking down, you're.

1113
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Gonna make the comparison between one brick and mortar fast

1114
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: food restaurant, yes, and the entirety of the world wide

1115
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: well only comparison.

1116
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: I understand based on my life experiences, I will say

1117
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: that if you were trying to say that, like stop

1118
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: policing the highlights of a big knockout afterwards, like let

1119
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: the whole world put out the gifts on the internet

1120
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: because that's the best advertising for someone to come back

1121
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: to your product. I get that argument. I don't necessarily

1122
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: get yours. And if I really had to take all

1123
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: the jokes aside and really look at this, what data

1124
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: company are probably going to do is he probably got

1125
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: off right. Well, Dana probably got his rocks off on

1126
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: that four minute video he certainly did trashing the media,

1127
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: trashing me, trashing a lot of people. And why do

1128
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: they have to go victory lap on our buddy, Josh Gross.

1129
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 3: Leave the guy alone already, all right? And I think

1130
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: that he's probably like, oh, I'll do the same now

1131
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: to the pirates. Not I'll put out a video of them,

1132
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: but let's spend money and grab a few of them

1133
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: and pursue them to the full damn extent of the law,

1134
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: and then publicize the arrest so as to make a

1135
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: major warning to everyone else that if you pirate us,

1136
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: you know I'll come after you. I'll put you on

1137
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: the screen. I'll put your life history on the screen.

1138
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll do that a few times. Look, I don't.

1139
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the argument that that, you know, losing

1140
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: thirty percent of your potential business is good? How is

1141
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: that a good argument?

1142
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Because I don't think they're losing thirty percent of your

1143
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: potential business. I'm not talking about losing I mean, if dude,

1144
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: if you were talking about losing three out of every

1145
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: ten viewers, of course that's untenable. I mean, that's yeah. No,

1146
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: I would never advocate for such a thing. I don't

1147
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: know exactly what the number is. I suspected single digits. Right.

1148
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: The question is it's always about this. For example, if

1149
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: you have a crime in your neighborhood, right, So, if

1150
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: you have police in your neighborhood, crime goes down. You

1151
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: live there ten years, You never have a break in,

1152
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: no one ever steals anything from your porch, whatever the

1153
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: case you live. Your kids can walk to school, right,

1154
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: this is a pretty safe way to live. Now. Is

1155
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: all crime eliminated from that neighborhood? No? And so what

1156
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: would it take to eliminate all crime from that neighborhood,

1157
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: literally every form of crime It would take the amount

1158
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: of extra effort to get that extra benefit would be onerous,

1159
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: That would be constitutional rights concerns. Could a city even

1160
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: afore that extra What I'm pointing out is at that

1161
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: point it's just not worth going to that extra mile.

1162
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: My thought is there is probably a segment for very

1163
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: savvy Internet users to avoid detection in a very small

1164
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: small group who can get the UFC product for free,

1165
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: become fans, still spread the word and gospel, contribute financially

1166
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: in other ways, buy tickets to shows, blah blah blah.

1167
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Whatever they may do where they're not hurting the UFC

1168
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: business in any kind of meaningful way. It's not a

1169
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: meanthly sized group, and the extra effort it would take

1170
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: for the UFC to police them, it's just not really

1171
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: worth it. You're still making all the money that you

1172
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: basically would otherwise make. I think that's my argument for

1173
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: that very very very very very narrow subset of piracy.

1174
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: I can't tell if you just tried to make a

1175
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: case for the gentrification of MMA at pay per view

1176
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: piracy or not. I'm not that educated, so I can't tell,

1177
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: but I think that was probably a great point, Loup.

1178
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: At some point, I just feel like, you know, and

1179
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're there. I don't know enough to

1180
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: say we are, but my feeling is on some level,

1181
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: leaving well enough alone is probably better than just trying

1182
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: to like I'm gonna fucking slash and burn the entire

1183
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: Internet on my way to get something. It's like, some

1184
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: piracy probably is not that big a deal, That's all

1185
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. All right, PC, we were gonna do some

1186
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: predictions for twenty twenty one. We should have done them

1187
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: on Monday, but we don't plan these shows very effectively,

1188
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: so We're going to do it today on Wednesday.

1189
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: Big prediction one one big prediction for twenty twenty one.

1190
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: In com one big prediction for MMA for twenty twenty

1191
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: one BC. Give me your big prediction.

1192
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: Oh luckily I picked MMA. I didn't know it was

1193
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: MMA only, Luke. Here's my big prediction. I think you

1194
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: could make a strong case in terms of trying to

1195
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: forecast who's gonna have the best year, who could potentially

1196
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: be your fighter of the year. Atasnia's in play with

1197
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 3: the chance to become a champ champ and maybe get

1198
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: closer to a John Jones super fight. Obviously, Conor McGregor's

1199
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 3: in play if he comes back and beats Poorier and

1200
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: can win the UFC lightweight title. But how about this,

1201
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: how about this bold prediction. We're gonna have a different

1202
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 3: champ champ to close twenty twenty one, and I've seen

1203
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: her Instagram page. It's Valentino Schifchenko. What about this, Luke?

1204
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: What if she faces the only remaining really difficult potential

1205
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: challenge in her division to open the year against former

1206
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 3: straweight champ Jessica Androge. What if she wins that? And

1207
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: what if she gets that trilogy bout with Amanda Newness

1208
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: because both are going to be out of you know,

1209
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Amanda News is already out of opponents, right,

1210
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: and you know, Valentina's maybe got one big name left.

1211
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: So if you put them together for a third fight

1212
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: and you do it at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

1213
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: I just feel like we've already seen the best of Amanda.

1214
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: But yet Valentina is still kind of getting better. And

1215
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: I think this whole turn considering before she moved down

1216
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: to flyway, she came as close as you can possibly

1217
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: come to beat in the greatest of all time, and

1218
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: Amanda new Nests in a great five round tactical fight

1219
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 3: that really was a coin flip first fight, also close

1220
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 3: at UFC one ninety six, Valentina came on a little

1221
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: bit too late, had a huge third round, would have

1222
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: benefited from championship rounds there. What if they did it again?

1223
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: And I'm just not seeing the same Amanda, who's been

1224
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: challenged and who has people, and who spent more time

1225
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: at forty five lately, who would have to cut down

1226
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: to thirty five for this big one. Yet we've seen

1227
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: Valentina go down to flyweight become an absolute destroyer Luke

1228
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: as a bandamweight because of her size differential, she had

1229
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: to be a counter punching machine. She had to be strategic.

1230
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: She had a out point Holly Holm over five hour, right,

1231
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: she had to really be like that at Flyway. She's

1232
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: learned more how to be in her natural weight and

1233
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: be a destroyer if she is a little bit more offensive.

1234
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: Think how coch she came in that second fight against Amanda.

1235
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: I like her chances in a third fight. I think

1236
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: she can win this bandamweight title. I think she can

1237
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: also with that win, have a hipster argument, won't have

1238
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: the same resume as Amanda, but have a hipster argument

1239
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: for being the greatest of all time. In this short

1240
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: season that women's MMA has been at the highest level.

1241
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: This is there's a lot of potential here for Valentina

1242
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: to have a monstrous year and not just be stuck

1243
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: in monotonous title defenses every quarter against whoever is next

1244
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: in line.

1245
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: HM, that's interesting. I'll say this PC. I would be

1246
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: very surprised if we get through twenty twenty one. Now,

1247
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: this is assuming that they remain active and both John

1248
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Jones and Amanda Noon has win all their fights I'd

1249
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: be very surprised, and you're always like, oh, who would

1250
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: beat them? Well, in Jones's case, I mean, I think

1251
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: he has some pretty reasonable threats. I don't think it's

1252
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: crazy to say that. You know, those guys of Francis

1253
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: or Stipe whoever, are genuine threats to beat him, and

1254
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: you know whether you think he's gonna win or not.

1255
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: But it's all this is a lesson I've learned in MMA.

1256
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: It's like the best, the very best, eventually collapse in

1257
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: ways that when you wrote their collapse in your mind,

1258
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: it never looked that way. It was much more sudden,

1259
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: and it was much more authoritative than you ever imagined.

1260
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: Even GSP beating Johnny HENDRICKX for example, Like I didn't

1261
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: think he did. I thought Hendricks won that. I thought

1262
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Hendricks won that pretty cleanly. And you know, he walked

1263
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: out of that cage, you know, barely on his feet.

1264
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: It was more on his hands in his z metaphorically,

1265
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: but more to the point, like, you know, did I

1266
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: see him losing to Matt Sarah? Never? Never in a

1267
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: million years, or pick anything. You know, Ronda ROSSI losing

1268
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: to Holly Holm. It makes sense in hindsight, but certainly

1269
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: going into that fight. There was no There was hardly

1270
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: anybody who thought, you know, Holly Holm had a shot,

1271
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: and you could pick any really upset Chris Widman over

1272
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva or you name it.

1273
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: These things rocking ball are getting knocked out by Woodley.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what you know, and it happens suddenly,

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Speaker 1: and it happens in ways you never expect, and it

1276
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: happens you know where, like there's no question about it.

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: And so to me, it's like John Jones is approaching

1278
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: not quite there. He's still in his early thirties, but

1279
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Speaker 1: he's gonna get close to his mid thirties as the year.

1280
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Speaker 1: As the year progresses, I think he'll be thirty four

1281
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: this year. I have to double check that. I think

1282
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: that his defense is tremendous, but I think his offense

1283
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: is not nearly what it once was. In the case

1284
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Speaker 1: of Amanda Nunez, she is so far ahead of her competitors,

1285
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: but you know, can she maintain the level of enthusiasm

1286
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: she needs to stay on top. I thought Durand to

1287
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: me was giving her problems that aman is well rounded

1288
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: and saved her, but how many times can you pull

1289
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: that rabbit out of that hat. You know, she's got money, now,

1290
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: she's got a kid. Now again, are these declarations to

1291
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: you that I can pick the day that it's going

1292
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: to happen. No, But I just feel like there's enough

1293
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: reason to think that that dominance it's so hard to maintain.

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Speaker 1: This might be the year that some of that begins

1295
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: to unravel.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Although I liked everything you said, except for the John

1299
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Speaker 3: Jones losing at heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even if he wins his first

1301
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,959
Speaker 1: one becomes champion. Right, So let's say he beat step

1302
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: A Steepe wins, and he beats Stepe or something.

1303
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: No, I get your point. Francis can beat anybody at

1304
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: any time. And also you know time will catch up.

1305
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't be perfect for so long, right,

1306
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: And John has been who.

1307
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: Is a boxer that you just revered as a fan,

1308
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: not as a media guy, but as a fan. And

1309
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: when their collapse came, it shocked you.

1310
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: Roy Jones Junior is the greatest example of this because

1311
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: he fell off a cliff. Right. It was the knockout

1312
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: loss to Tarvor in the rematch where you're like, oh

1313
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: my god. But there were factors, right, the Waight cut,

1314
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: coming back down from heavyweight, not as motivated, blah blah blah.

1315
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: But then when he fought Glenn Johnson and got hammered,

1316
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: You're like he might be done. And then he fought

1317
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 3: Tarvor a third time and was just sluggish and not

1318
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: into it. Yeah, that was just like, I can't believe

1319
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 3: that happened. And it was over like that, And now, yeah,

1320
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: he lingered for another twenty years, but you get my point.

1321
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: I mean it was over right.

1322
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Right, all right. So for my big prediction, I'm gonna

1323
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: say this, and I wrote this on CBS Sports as well,

1324
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's worth repeating here. You know, I'm

1325
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: saying this in a very speculative way, but I just

1326
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: feel like the stars are aligning a little bit where

1327
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that twenty twenty one is going to

1328
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: be Bell Tour's best year since twenty fifteen. Now why

1329
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: would I say it on those terms? Well, twenty fourteen

1330
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: was the first year that Scott Cocher took over, but

1331
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: if you recall he took over I think late in

1332
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: that year from Jorn Revne, it was not his first

1333
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: full year. Twenty fifteen was the first full year that

1334
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: Scott Coker had in terms of control of Belotoor, and

1335
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: that was the year where they began to roll out

1336
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: belato Or Kickboxing, which I think had some success overseas,

1337
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: but again I don't really know how much of a

1338
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: product there is for kickboxing outside of what goes on

1339
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: in parts of Southeast Asia and in Europe. But more

1340
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: to the point, they had the Dynamite event where they

1341
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: were sort of borrowing from the Japanese side of things.

1342
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: They had foster relationships with some of the Japanese promotions

1343
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: to have kind of a talent sharing agreement. It was

1344
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: a big, bold resetting of the beloto Or brand and

1345
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: some of that, in fact, a lot of it I

1346
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: don't think didn't work because it felt a little dated,

1347
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: like you were trying to bring back stuff that there

1348
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily a time honored practice. It was a practice

1349
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: that worked at a certain point in time. But I

1350
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: have to say, if you're looking around now, it does

1351
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: feel a little bit different. There's been a lot of

1352
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,479
Speaker 1: turnover in their roster, both coming and going, but they've

1353
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: got a lot of interesting pieces. They've got a lot

1354
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: of youth happening across many divisions. We talked about low

1355
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: and story and not Askarov but Nemkov, and they're incredible

1356
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: about Joey Davis and Antonio excuse me, a j McKee,

1357
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: and you can go on through the roster. They're really

1358
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: developing the women's side of the game, and we saw

1359
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: that with even a Lamela McFarlane's last fight when she lost,

1360
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: but still sort of beginning to show the development that

1361
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 1: they have been in processed. Plus we talk about all

1362
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: of their signings. When you have you know, Anthony Rebel

1363
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: Johnson and Joel Romero and blah blah blah, I mean

1364
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: so many different pieces. Plus even I think they have

1365
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: a claim to have the best light heavyweight on Earth

1366
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: as well. They've got this ground up, top down thing

1367
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 1: that is really beginning to to to mature to something

1368
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: to a much more stable, recognizable product. Then on top

1369
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: of that, you add what I think is going to

1370
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: be Viacom really kind of leaning into it. Now what

1371
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: that's going to look like, I don't exactly know. I

1372
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to end up on Showtime.

1373
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know they're gonna end up on CBS. I

1374
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: don't know exactly if they're gonna move off Thursdays on

1375
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: CBS Sports and go to Saturdays. But I just feel

1376
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: like with all of the investments and development that they

1377
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: have had and seeing what that looks like in UFC

1378
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: going back to ABC, I have a haunch that I

1379
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: don't know when. I don't know what it's gonna look

1380
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: like BC, but I have a feeling you're gonna see

1381
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: a Bellator show on a bigger kind of broadcast, let's

1382
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: call it situation than you did previously. The Zone was

1383
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: interesting because it gave them some money, but they never

1384
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: that relationship never really matured. I tend to think that

1385
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: sticking with just the Viacom CBS side of things is

1386
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: probably going to be better for their overall visibility when

1387
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: they have something worth really sharing with the product they

1388
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: They're not gonna look to play the old Japanese style playbook.

1389
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a modern game with a modern, updated roster,

1390
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: full of young guns, full of some recognizable names. I

1391
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I got a feeling that, like, I

1392
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: don't know how successful it's going to be, but I

1393
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: feel like this is gonna be the first year in

1394
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: a while where Bellator really has a bunch of interesting

1395
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: things going on aside from the tournament. I mean from

1396
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: a visibility standpoint.

1397
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's right. I think if you're Scott Cooker,

1398
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: you have more diverse tools and toys to play with

1399
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: in this moment than just like old name over here

1400
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 3: hoping this young guy works out. I mean the fact

1401
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: that you know, arguably the face of their franchise historically,

1402
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler. They kind of let them walk, the fact

1403
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: that they were able to do that and not really

1404
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: miss a beat and look and say, you know, we've

1405
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: got different for our circumstances, better guys to invest in.

1406
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you consider someone's marketability with

1407
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: their ability inside the cage, it's an interesting time for

1408
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: sure to be you know, in the spot they are

1409
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: looking to carve out their own niche in the in

1410
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: the greater sphere of things. M m A. These were

1411
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: big gets from Romero to Rumball, and and those aren't

1412
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: even really the core reasons if you're Bellator to be excited.

1413
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, but I think the success of the

1414
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: Grand Prix of late have shown that it can be

1415
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: a more fun one like the heavyweight one, which is

1416
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: about names, or you can do like what they're doing

1417
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: right now with the featherweight one, where you've seeing some

1418
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: of the best in the world at that weight class

1419
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: it take place. So yeah, I think that's a good point.

1420
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: Me wearing this fantastic long sleeve black T shirt, notwithstanding

1421
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: our relationship with the promotion due to our parent company, notwithstanding,

1422
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: I think we obviously can put that aside and just

1423
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 3: say things are looking up heading into twenty twenty one.

1424
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: It'd be fun to see what happens.

1425
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, don't get me wrong, there's still gonna

1426
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: be plenty of Belator slander here on the show. It's

1427
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: just I do think that what they've lined up is

1428
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: they're poised for something big. They're poised for something big.

1429
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Now who's that with. What's it gonna look like? Hell,

1430
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine on that one.

1431
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I just don't know. But with all the talent they've signed,

1432
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: well all the talent they're developing, rich Child's done a

1433
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: really good job. I'm expecting. You know, there was a

1434
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of belt or shows that felt like were good

1435
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: last year, but that maybe folks just you know, it

1436
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: just happened. It was just a the bus going by,

1437
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: was nothing anything in particular, I think they're going to

1438
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: do a little bit more of the dressing up of

1439
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: the content twenty one, so we'll see what that looks

1440
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: a sty.

1441
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: The timing makes sense because you know, we're seeing UFC

1442
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: cuts at at a fairly rapid rate, and they're coming

1443
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: from you know, fairly big name people. And look, you

1444
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 3: can understand why a Yoel Romero would get cut, giving

1445
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: age and what have you. It was surprising, but I

1446
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: guess in theory you can understand it. But you know,

1447
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 3: can Bellator become not just a viable free agent landing

1448
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 3: for guys who are still in their prime, but you know,

1449
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: a destination because of some of the limitations that we've

1450
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: talked about, you know, REBOC deal stuff like that, and

1451
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 3: and just sort of the way you're treating I mean, like, look,

1452
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not a fighter. I don't know if

1453
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 3: it's better to be in the UFC or Bellator. I

1454
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: do know that Scott Cooker doesn't trash his fighters publicly, right,

1455
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: So you know, there's certain guys that are looking for

1456
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: more of a family experienced luke and more of a

1457
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: you know, a different style of treatment, and uh, it's

1458
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: certainly out there for them.

1459
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well with mind BC, it's time for uh

1460
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: the readers, the reader, the viewers, the listeners to give back.

1461
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: It's time for fan submissions, is it not?

1462
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, please, we've got mail, Luke. All right, let's play

1463
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 3: the anime nation animalization of this animation. All right, Luke,

1464
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 3: we know it's morning. Coombat at gmail dot com is

1465
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 3: the landing spot. You can also slide into my DMS

1466
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: Sean K gonna kick off our fan submission of the week.

1467
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 3: He's saying, look, Luke, we're going to start this off

1468
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 3: with a bang, and all you international girlfriends take note.

1469
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 3: This is from Shaun K. My fiancee, Jennifer O'Neil is

1470
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 3: a very casual MMA fan, but every Monday night here

1471
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: in Dublin we sit on the couch and watch Have

1472
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: you seen this shit? She absolutely loves it and thinks

1473
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: it's hilarious. Without me knowing, she took note of your

1474
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: merchandise info and on Christmas morning I opened up a

1475
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 3: present to find this epic jumper here Jumper. Oh kind

1476
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: of UK talk is that she even had to.

1477
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: Say Irish if he's Irish, not the UK, but okay.

1478
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: Maybe he's Northern. I no he's from the Dublin, all right.

1479
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 3: She even had to set up a PO box in

1480
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 3: America to get it shipped from there to Dublin, Ireland.

1481
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 3: You're right, not part of the UK. Send your dead

1482
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 3: wrong stuff to me. Shout out here to seauan k

1483
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: his lovely, his lovely fiance Jennifer O'Neill. She also added,

1484
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 3: BC looks like a great guy, huge hog credit to

1485
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: his community. Wow, didn't see that coming, Luke. But you know,

1486
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: I will say he circumvented the system and he looks

1487
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 3: great for it. He looks fantastic in that jumper.

1488
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: Okay, he circumcised the situation. It looks great.

1489
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I wish you would step back from that ledge,

1490
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: my friend. Okay, look, moving on. Oh, we need to

1491
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: Mikey here says we need to give Jennifer O'Neil a

1492
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: huge shout out because not only does she pretend to

1493
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: enjoy our show to make her fiance happy, she's also

1494
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 3: a front line worker who had to postpone her wedding

1495
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: this year. So big shouts out to Jennifer.

1496
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: There, all right, So thanks to all those folks.

1497
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, no jokes there. Bob m is next, Luke,

1498
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: he says, what's up, guys. The name is Bob, and

1499
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: I got some cool stuff, including a Morning Combat T shirt.

1500
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: And also my older brother forgot my gifts, so he

1501
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: gave me his bag of goods. You guys are the

1502
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: best tip to tip forever.

1503
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: Is that a bag? Is that a bag of weed?

1504
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: Oh? That's what he's referencing. Okay, So for anyone who

1505
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 3: can't see this, there's a Pantera T shirt, a Cannibal

1506
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: Corpse T shirt, a Morning Combat T shirt, and about

1507
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 3: an eighth of an ounce lucas.

1508
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: That's enough to get us high as shit. Yes, yes

1509
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: it is.

1510
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 3: The room service diaries have never been better after hanging

1511
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: out with Bob m I'll tell you that much. Luke,

1512
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 3: What do you think of his choice of paraphernalia here?

1513
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like my closet, to be quite

1514
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: honest with you, weed and all. Uh, this is great,

1515
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: This is great. I love it, all.

1516
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: Right, all right. Our next submission does not have a name.

1517
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: It's anonymously delivered. It says this guy didn't leave us

1518
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: a name, but he said I ordered a bathroom for work,

1519
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: and look what got. If you zoom in, it says

1520
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: welcome donks to the MK throne.

1521
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh amazing, we made it, Luke, We made it. Yes, dude,

1522
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: on the inside of a porta john is where our

1523
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: constitution will be written.

1524
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. Do you think this is a setup though

1525
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 3: the guy who who said it sent it in also

1526
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 3: wrote it, or do you think this is like a random,

1527
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 3: you know, circumstance.

1528
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: I think it's probably uh the guy wrote it, But

1529
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because now everyone else has to see it,

1530
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: so who cares?

1531
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone else has to try to sit on the

1532
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 3: MK throwne. You know, it's not easy up here.

1533
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever looked at a porta john? You ever

1534
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: been to like a like a summer concert and then

1535
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I got a pee And then you

1536
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: go in there and you look down at the Civil

1537
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: War bandages that get thrown down there. Dude, there's blood

1538
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: and piss and like just stacks of shit. You just

1539
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: can't believe what comes out of people those things.

1540
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want. I once went to Bonnarou Luke in

1541
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: two thousand and five, and uh uh, I took a

1542
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 3: crap the first day and you don't know one hundred

1543
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: and four degree weather as you're just just dripping and

1544
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 3: the smells or just I held that thing for the

1545
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: next six days, Luke, I couldn't do it. That's that's

1546
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: that was the worst. That was Oh god, that was bad. Yeah,

1547
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. Great, great, great show though, right.

1548
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: Great camroid blood, all kinds of stuff.

1549
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: All right.

1550
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Hey.

1551
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: Connor f is next, and he says, I would have

1552
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: sent a picture of me with some merch, but I

1553
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: don't know the cheat code to unlock it in Ireland.

1554
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 3: So Luke, he sent in this nice uh uh excuse me,

1555
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: I's something in my eye. Uh, this nice shut the

1556
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: f up j meme of course, from what the hell

1557
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: is that movie? It's Big Lebowski. There you go. Thank you?

1558
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: Is that me as the dude right there? That's fantastic.

1559
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: You are the dude. You are Jeff, not Jeff Daniels.

1560
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 3: It's what's his name, uh, the Ridges Bridges, Jeff Bridges. Yeah,

1561
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: and uh in Luke of course, as big John Goodman there. Yeah, okay, great,

1562
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: all right, moving on here, Luke. We got two of

1563
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: them from a guy named dave E whose handle is

1564
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: at the Dave's Underscore six six six, So he's certainly

1565
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: a man after your own. Baron Saul and Dave says

1566
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 3: on the first one, Luke, here's a is the lost

1567
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Christmas card that went with Luke's amazing Christmas gift. This

1568
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: is fantastic, Luke.

1569
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: Dong a parental advisory. Dong's galore. And so this is

1570
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: someone's dong hitting me in the face. And this is

1571
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: the picture I had when I had no surgery about

1572
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: a year ago.

1573
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: It's Dana's dong. If you look close, that's Dana in

1574
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: the background.

1575
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: And you're the tip of the spear.

1576
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 3: I'm the tip of Dana's dong. Are we really dissecting?

1577
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 3: This is really our job. We're dissecting this.

1578
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: This is CBS Sports pays us to look at Dix

1579
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: that you're on.

1580
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess I you know, Dana has bludgeoned

1581
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: your nose with the tip of his dong, which looks

1582
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: a lot like me, Luke. So that's a vulgar display

1583
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 3: of combat. Indeed, Dave comes back with a second one.

1584
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,879
Speaker 3: He says, this second one is a meme Brian texted

1585
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: me but didn't want Luke to see.

1586
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: I put the live chat off of my own channel

1587
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: and I put it on the m K channel. Y'all

1588
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: can y'all can just absolutely l my bees if you

1589
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1590
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: That's great work, Dave. By the way, I think that

1591
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be the Luke Thomas Sunday Digest.

1592
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 3: That not the uh yeah, all right, great Hey, Todd

1593
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 3: m is back. In the next one. He takes Luke

1594
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 3: and BC to Flavor Town with this one. Stay frosted, dude,

1595
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 3: I look.

1596
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: Like a I look like a much fatter version Jesus Christ.

1597
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: I look terrible here.

1598
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: Look at my head. It's got the onion rings as fingers.

1599
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 3: That is fed guy FIEDI in the house.

1600
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: Look I look like I manage insane clown posse.

1601
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: No, dude, you look like the lead singer smash mouthed.

1602
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: Somebody once stole me.

1603
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: Oh man, I hate that bad Hey, that first hit

1604
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: they had, remember walking on the Sun? Not that bad?

1605
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: Right, mad as well?

1606
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: Be to the son, all right. The next one from

1607
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 3: Anya Beree is back and he's his name is Scott

1608
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 3: in real life, and he has made Brian's newest album,

1609
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 3: Lonely at the Top.

1610
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: And I get the Lonely at the Top reference, but

1611
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: what what is on the actual album cover?

1612
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 3: Dana White standing at the top of the cliff of

1613
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: Wyami Day as the sun go down.

1614
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: Are you shitting me? Dude? That is so good?

1615
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, oh god, I need this as a poster.

1616
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 3: That is fantastic.

1617
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: Dude, that dude, that is one of the most clever

1618
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: ones we've gotten. That is very funny.

1619
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is great, great stuff there. Wow, that's that's

1620
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: some meta on meta webscream type ship right there. That

1621
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: is well freaking done. Yes, thank you. All right. Kevin

1622
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: al is back and he's got an idea for BC's

1623
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 3: Sunday digest.

1624
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: So what hot dogs, curly fries, taketos and two raw eggs.

1625
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: The only thing that's fucked up about this is that

1626
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: the eggs should have been still inside the plastic bag.

1627
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, wow. Nice griller is on there. What

1628
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 3: is that red spot on my chest? Gaff?

1629
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: What is that? Is that?

1630
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: My heart?

1631
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the blood that just sort of oozes

1632
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: out of your nose.

1633
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: That is well fricking done right there. These people go

1634
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 3: to the ends of the earth to find that. That

1635
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: pictures from a now canceled shoe PBC face to face

1636
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: all about that in La at the Fox Studios. Remember

1637
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: when I used to catch that check, Luke, how you

1638
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 3: got COVID? No, that was a long time ago. I

1639
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: probably got COVID. Oh you know what, I know. I

1640
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 3: think I got COVID from that weekend you and I

1641
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: spent in Brooklyn for the Showtime fight.

1642
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: I didn't get COVID then. Or maybe, you know what,

1643
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: maybe I actually have had COVID. I just didn't know it.

1644
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know gave it to me.

1645
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 3: Maybe you were asymptomatic and you gave it to me

1646
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: and I was patient zero.

1647
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: Okay maybe, but if that was the case, I would

1648
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: be patient zero, but okay.

1649
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: Or just a big zero all right. Hey, Scott m

1650
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: Rizzo is a fine contributor to this channel. He's pretty

1651
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: upset that we named Webscream the donk of the Year,

1652
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: so he made a nice little meme here, Luke.

1653
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: I can't quite see what he's doing. On the bottom one, he's.

1654
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: Put up the picture of Kanye West interrupting Taylor Swift

1655
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 3: to say that edited to say that Beyonce had the

1656
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 3: best video that year. You know that that reference?

1657
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I'm saying the bottom one is unedited

1658
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: other than the hold my beer part.

1659
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's him. That's him jumping in to say sorry, Webscream,

1660
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: Scott m Rizzo.

1661
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: I know, I get the reference. I just couldn't tell

1662
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: if the photo was manipulated anyway.

1663
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: No, no, it it's pretty The joke is pretty straight up, Luke.

1664
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 3: It's it's unadulterated, unfiltered. It's right in your face. All right. Hey,

1665
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,879
Speaker 3: let's move on to Matt s. Matt the Smith Smith

1666
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: says webscream, you're taking every everything I worked for. I

1667
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 3: want my edits to be chosen over your fn as.

1668
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 3: You know who makes the real money edits. The real

1669
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: money edits come from me. And he has a home

1670
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: alone meme with Jay as mccaully, and it says he's

1671
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 3: been in their ear. Now they're in his house. Shut up, Jay,

1672
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: with you and I as the wet band. It's Luke.

1673
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: This is brilliant, dude.

1674
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: So you're Joe Peshi and I'm the guy that like

1675
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: steps on the nail.

1676
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Daniel Stern, the voice of the Wonder Years.

1677
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I gotta tell you. I think that's a

1678
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: very appropriate grouping.

1679
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, they know us better than we do, Luke,

1680
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: this isn't really the Smith Smith. Wow, well done, mads who.

1681
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: All right, now it's time for at Omniscient twelve B.

1682
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: He goes by the name JT. He's got a trio

1683
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 3: of movie posters. Luke. Here's the first one, a play

1684
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: on the Travolta cage face off. It's tip off, Luke.

1685
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: In order to trap him, he must go tip to

1686
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,480
Speaker 3: tip tip off.

1687
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: We would replace the bell ends of our of our

1688
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: with each other. That sounds really gross.

1689
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty gross. That's pretty gross. JT comes back

1690
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 3: with another one, Luke. This is more pro wrestling style.

1691
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: I like this. The Mega Powers of Randy macho man

1692
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: Campbell and racist old Thomas over there. I love it,

1693
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: love it.

1694
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Speaker 1: How come I gotta be the one that drops the

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: N word?

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: That's not fair? Well, yeah, yeah, you know you like

1697
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: to make sex tapes with your best friend's wives, so yeah,

1698
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense there.

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, okay, in that case, I get it.

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 3: The Mega Powers is the greatest pro wrestling story ever told.

1701
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 3: If you don't know the reference, the storyline heading into

1702
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: of course, uh WrestleMania five, the full year storyline. Love

1703
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 3: it and Luke, it's probably apt. This is probably a

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: pro pos a preview of you and I. We don't

1705
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: know who the Miss Elizabeth will be to break up

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: our mega powers union here of taking over the fight talksphere,

1707
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: but it will end very badly for us.

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01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, is Jay miss Elizabeth?

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 3: He might be. He I don't think he tears us apart.

1710
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 3: He just tears our soul, our patients out. Let's go

1711
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: to JT with his final one. This is a play

1712
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 3: on the movie Predator. Another play on the movie Predator.

1713
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: Look look at you.

1714
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 3: A little bit of a copycat job there on the

1715
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: previous stuff that webscreams put out.

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01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: But he did, but he added the nice update as

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,879
Speaker 1: you as the Predator.

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: It works, Yes, and you know we got to close

1719
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: this segment. Luke with Dick Oles. He's back and he's

1720
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: got something called Basketball Dads. It says it's a new

1721
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: show I'm pitching it's a twist on basketball wives expect that,

1722
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: except this twist is forty year old white dad staying

1723
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 3: active in an effort to hold on to their youth.

1724
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: It stars Brian Chunky Milk Campbell and here's hoping CBS

1725
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: picks it up. Let's watch this for the first time.

1726
01:21:54,120 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Here we go, dude, I'm telling you. I'm telling you

1727
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: Dickles is doing something special out there.

1728
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is so true. Tuesday nights once

1729
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 3: covid ends, you'll be seeing me with that same free throw. Wow,

1730
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, that was great, Luke, that is it

1731
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: for your fansubmissions if you want to join the Party

1732
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: of rejects Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Also you

1733
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: can hit me up on the old ig and Twitter dms.

1734
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 3: You can see our handles later in the show there.

1735
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 1: It is all right, good job with that that these

1736
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 1: get better and better every week. Dude, I am very impressed.

1737
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: I did not know how much of a culture there

1738
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: would be, But dude, photoshopping and MMA meming that's been

1739
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: around since like MMA dot tv. You know the original

1740
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: mixmortial arts dot com.

1741
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 3: It's a CALLI stem song two when you ecup and

1742
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: it's laugh that has one. Well, this fight with your

1743
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 3: dream nobody has top that yet, Luke.

1744
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: Uh no, not yet. All right, Uh let's see if

1745
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: you would like to try Showtime you certainly can Showtime

1746
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: dot com slash nothing. Just go to showtime dot com,

1747
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: get a thirty day free trip. You'll like it. You

1748
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: can keep it. If not pound sand there is also

1749
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: our merchstore dot show dot com mer.

1750
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: Question for you, Luke, do I just have a really

1751
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: large head or does this hat just not look good

1752
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 3: on me?

1753
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: We both have see I'm not the right person to

1754
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: ask because we both have large melons and it doesn't

1755
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: look good on my head either, But my wife put

1756
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: it on and it looked great for her. So if

1757
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: you have a normal mammalian brain and a normal mammalian head,

1758
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: you should be fine. If you are an ogre like

1759
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: me or a mutant like Brian, not the not the

1760
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: choice of apparel for you. So there's that, okay. As

1761
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,799
Speaker 1: he mentioned, you want to send in anything for the show,

1762
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: submission for you know, fan submissions, a question, something for

1763
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Friday's Dead Wrong. Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the

1764
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: place to be, and in fact, we are all over

1765
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,440
Speaker 1: social media beyond that, It's gonna be Morning Combat everywhere

1766
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: on YouTube, on Gmail, on Instagram because emails not social media.

1767
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: But you get the ideas just morning Combat consistently. BC

1768
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: and I are both on Twitter and Instagram, but our

1769
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: names they're different. A little bit ticket screenshot and then

1770
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: give us a follow if you so so please, and

1771
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: Friday will do Dead Wrong. We'll react to the latest

1772
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: news and notes. There are no big fights this weekend,

1773
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: so we'll kind of get creative a little bit fun

1774
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: with it, I think for Friday's show, But after that

1775
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: all the fights start kicking into high gear, so Friday

1776
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: show will be the last sort of funnish one for

1777
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: a while.

1778
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: We should call up Chuck on Friday. I haven't talked

1779
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: to it, like, I know that we should probably do

1780
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: a welfared wellness check on Chuck and you know, behind

1781
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: the scenes and make it more personal. Why don't we

1782
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: just cold call him on Friday show and do it

1783
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: as ridiculous as we can.

1784
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: I love that, man, I love that idea. Well, I'm

1785
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: down for that. Let's do it. Be great.

1786
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 3: I'll text him in advance and say keep the hat

1787
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 3: on though.

1788
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll do that. I think I've

1789
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: got everything, all the plugs I need in there. So

1790
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody watching, take care of each other, be safe,

1791
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: come back for Friday eleven am. That is Brian Campbell,

1792
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas for everyone at showtime, Malka CBA Sports

1793
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: and the like. We'll see you Friday. Until then, all

1794
01:25:54,240 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal

1795
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 3: Yes,