WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 17 with Chad Pennington 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.000 Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:08.520 the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away, alright, Chad, uh, 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.680 Ryan Fitzpatrick sprain knee suffered that against the Miami Dolphins. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.040 Bryce Petty came on, played a few snaps, actually helped 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.599 lead the team to a field goal drive on his 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.160 one possession, his first possession in the National Football League. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:29.480 But Chad, you're are our quarterback? Uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick said, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.080 he's very optimistic. He's I don't I could get the 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.440 full quote for you, but he's optimistic that he is 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.000 going to play Sunday against the l A. Rams and 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.200 Todd Bulls said that fits gives our team the best 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.760 chance to win. Right now, your thoughts, That's exactly the 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.559 answer I think. Right now, even though it's easy for 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.319 fans to discard the season and say, well, we need 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.160 to look towards next year, you still have fifty three 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.920 men in that locker room who know that there's still 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.640 a chance to to make the playoffs and and beside 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.360 of the playoffs, be successful and play good football. And 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.760 so at the end of the day, you want to 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.480 put your best eleven out there on offense, defensive, special 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.640 teams to win football games. That's what you're charged to 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.840 do as coaches and players. And so until there's another 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.000 decision maker above coach Bowls to say, hey, I want 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.640 to see this guy play, he's got to put the 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.120 best eleven out there. And obviously, from what he and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.880 Coach Gailey and the staff has seen, Ryan Fitzpatrick gives 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.680 them the best option and the best opportunity to win 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.959 a football game. And that's the bottom line. There's no 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.839 other discussion other than that. Our churns always a little 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.560 apprehensive maybe to go to the young guy because there's 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.559 a comfort level with the veteran quarterback. In this case, 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.400 we know Ryan Fitzpatrick knows his offense inside and out. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.120 This is not only second year with Shan Gailey here 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.400 in New York, but he played three seasons with him 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.200 in Buffalo, and the guy used to a man, And 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.520 you know, veterans love this as he knows all the checks, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.520 all the reads, all the progressions, where everybody's supposed to 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.800 be on every play. And for a veteran there probably 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.760 is whether they confident, embraced party or not. There's always 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:22.160 that uncertainty level. They're right, Uh, there can be but 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.960 I think that is actually overrated e A. I think 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.400 that I remember when when I stepped in and started 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.600 playing in two thousand and two. I think there was 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.040 a confidence level uh in my teammates that I could 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.320 handle the situation, and I hope there was. I hope 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.120 that I was able to show in three years that 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.720 when my numbers called, I can handle the volume of information, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.800 I can handle what's going on. Just about what I 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.560 did in practice and in preseason and my teammates being 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.960 around me. Now there was still um an unknown and 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.720 I still had to prove that in game situations on Sunday. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.040 As far as having a compidence to say Chad can 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.760 do this, we just he just has to show us. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.760 That's different than saying I don't think he can do it. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.440 And I think players, even though they do trust veterans, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.799 at the end of the day, they want a guy 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.679 behind singer is going to give it the best way, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.000 the best chance to win, regardless of how he gets 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.280 it done. There's a belief system there, and I still 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.320 think there's a belief system within the team that Ryan 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.520 Fitzpatrick can help them win football games. Yeah, and Bryce 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.840 Potty might be able to help them uh win football games. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.080 Uh this year, We don't know that because Todd Bowls 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.160 right now is going with Ryan Fitzpatrick's saying this is 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.920 what gives his team the best chance to win. But 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.520 you brought up a great point about uh me over 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.960 rating something there at the beginning. Because this is Bryce 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.160 potty second year in the system. He did come from 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.920 that simple spread at Baylor where the guys, the quarterbacks 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:03.440 are looking over to the sideline for the check or 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.040 the play before they run something. So this was and 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.120 they didn't even have a playbook at Feller. So he 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.320 had to have a lot of water splashed in his 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.760 face when he entered the National Football League after he 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.560 was entered after he came in as a fourth round pick. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.800 But now this is his second year in the system. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.560 He played pretty well in the preseason. I talked to 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.400 a couple of offensive alignment another night chat and they said, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.080 you know, Bryce came in, said, how don he just 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.520 smile on his face? That that's the kind of personality. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.440 Has completed a couple of passes and he seems pretty confident. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.400 So he's got to be chomping at the bit for 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.320 his next opportunity. Well, there's no doubt. As a competitor, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.480 you're always chumping at the bit to be the guy 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.320 to be able to go out and execute for your 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.919 team and be able to make those plays for your team. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.240 And I still think though his learning curve is still drafting, 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.120 there's no doubt that he has closed the gap for himself, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.320 just in his own maturation process as a quarterback coming 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.640 from Baylor and what he was asked to do there 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.680 and comparing it to what he's asked to do and 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.320 chan Gailey's offense is night in Bay and there's no 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.159 question that he has made progress there. But to fully 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.719 say that he is completely ready to take on the 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.159 challenge as a starter may still be a stretch. I 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.960 don't know. I'm not in there every day, but I 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.320 do know that there's a lot of information that he's 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.359 had to absorb, and I would say that he is 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.120 still trading water, so to speak, especially when you move 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.040 into regular season and now the game plans are much 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.039 different than they are in the preseason. Does that do 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.440 a little four year confidence though? Just coming into a 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.560 ballgame and getting that out of the way. I know 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.560 he only played a handful of plays, I think four 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.760 and all, and I like what Shane Gailey did with 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.840 him Chad that first play of Petty's NFL career, the 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.560 running back screen to a ballag pile that picked up 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.520 a lot of yardage. And I know people on the 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.479 outside are complaining about, hey, they didn't really uh let 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.600 him go. They kind of conservative with Bryce there, and 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.320 I didn't necessarily think that. I think obviously, a guy 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.520 coming off the bench in his first action in the 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.560 third quarter of a tight game, you're not gonna be 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.240 uh running all goes in a seventh step drop. Well, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.160 that's completely false that they were conservative. Jane Gailey was 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.960 just executing his game plan trying to score against the 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.080 Dolphins and um on that third down conversion. The reason 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.520 that the ball was thrown shore was not called Jane 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.960 Gailey called it that way. It was becalled. Bryce was 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.120 actually hot, there was an unblocked defender, and he threw 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.080 it to his hot receiver and Robbie Anderson to get 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.120 rid of the ball and not taking the sack. So 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.080 Jan was just calling it the way he had been 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.080 calling the game, regardless of who the quarterback was in 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.240 the huddle, and Bryce executed to play the way he 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.880 was supposed to. So It wasn't that there was a 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.920 short pass play called or that they were being conservative. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.160 He was just calling the game and and it just 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.080 so happened that the Dolphins had a blitz that the 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.120 Jets it could not pick up, and the Dolphins reacted 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.800 and made the tackle. So, uh, you know that that's 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:08.320 that's false inside the locker room this week. Uh, what's 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.360 got to be gone through prices of mind that maybe 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:16.160 wasn't before now knowing going into this situation where last 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.679 week we knew Fitzpetrick was gonna start. And while guys 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.480 can get hurt and any time, he wants to play 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.400 this week, but he does have the sprain knee, so 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.200 he could be limited, we don't know yet. Well, there's 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.520 two components, uh, and both components provide a greater sense 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.160 of urgency for Bryce number one. The first component, with 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.480 Ryan being a little bit banged up, to say you're 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.480 only one play away sometimes seems very distant when you're 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.160 talking about a healthy quarterback that's playing well. But now 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.120 a quarterback just banged up, you're definitely one play away 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.960 from having to go in there for the rest of 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.120 the game or maybe spell him for a series or 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.880 a couple of plays depending on how his knee reacts. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.800 Now he's able to hold up. Secondly, there's another sense 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.040 of urgency, owing that there's pressure on this team to win. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.000 There's pressure on Ryan to play better, and there's pressure 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.840 from the outside fam We want to see Bryce Petty, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.880 so he has to certainly change the way he's preparing. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.560 But his mindset and his sense of urgency and and 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.760 his energy and enthusiasm and and just inside the way 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.400 he feels is certainly different this week compared to previous week. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.080 Brandon Marshall said best and you are always a team guy, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.880 so you'll like this that he said everybody's gonna throw 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.080 darts at the starting quarterback when the offensive struggles. But 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.959 he said it's on me, it's on fits, it's out 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:42.440 all of us. Um, can you point to something specifically 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:49.120 why this team has struggled? Uh finishing inside the red zone, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.360 specifically one of five last week against Miami thirty one 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.080 in the National Football League, This team last year third 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.960 NINEFL And I know we're all we We're always gonna 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:04.240 ain to Eric Decker, and that's very real. But you 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.439 say it all the time. Every team, every team in 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.520 the league deals with injuries. So inside the twenty, what 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.200 is happening with fits and the offense? Because Uh, last year, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.920 uh Decker sent a team record. God, they had such 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.120 chemistry and such synergy. He had ton of his touchdowns 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.880 came inside the red zone, Chad, So obviously they've had 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.760 to adapt there without Decker. But what's happening inside the 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.800 twenty beyond that as they continue to adjust because he's 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.600 been gone for a while and he's not coming back 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.080 this year by and I think there's three reasons. The 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.520 first reason is obvious with air Decker not in the 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.240 line up more Brandon Marshall seas more double coverage and 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:47.040 now called Decker is not in the lineup, the other 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.880 receivers are beating Kingle coverage consistently as Decker did when 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.920 he received single coverage. Because even with Decker in the 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.920 line up, Brandon would receive double coverage, but Decker would 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.560 be single coverage. That's that's number one. So that's the 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.679 obvious answer. The two answers that that I think are 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.680 uh even more pertinent to our conversation is number one, 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.400 uh ramphis Patrick has not made great decisions in the 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:15.520 red zone. Is decision making? Um has been um less 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.520 as far as a less effective this year compared to 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.880 last year. Some of that has to do with, you know, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.120 the type of balls that you're trying to throw, and 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.520 and being in in UH you know, less space. UM 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.600 your room for era is much less and you have 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.240 to be more precise, and then sometimes you just have 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.520 to make sure that you get the three points out 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.199 of it. I think if you take some of the 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.720 red zone turnovers out of this equation, then you feel 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.080 much better about their production. I mean, even look at 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.080 the Miami game this past weekend, and you take that 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.240 turnover away, you probably win the game because not only 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.080 does turnovers in the red zone takeaway points, it deflates 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.960 your team because it takes away the momentum and the 0:10:55.040 --> 0:11:00.840 moment completely swings to the other side because you're right 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.920 there on the verge of getting points, having a kickoff, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.800 having a TV time out, being able to take a big, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.160 deep breath and get ready to go, and then all 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.079 of a sudden, you have a sudden change where UH 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.720 completely changes the outlook of a game. And then and 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.160 then finally, I think that the running game has not 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.800 come to the forefront for the Jets in the red zone. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.120 Sometimes when you're struggling in the passing game, where you're 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.079 struggling to put points upon the board, the running game 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.400 can be the deciding factor to settle the offense down, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:33.000 to create an attitude in the tempo and be able 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.920 to gain some of those hard earned yards in the 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.120 red zone and are so hard to come by because 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.480 of the lack of space. And sometimes when you look 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.160 at the great red zone teams, they're very efficient in 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.839 the running game, and I'm not so sure that the 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.760 Jets have been efficient in the running game in the 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.360 red zone. No, you're right, And it's interesting. It's that 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.160 old adage is that if they're stacking up the box 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.040 and they're challenging it to beat you with the one 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.080 I want coverage, do you go to the passing game 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.280 just spread the field, because maybe you spread the field, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.640 uh to actually get down to the twenty. But uh, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:09.240 from your vantage point, would the Jets be benefited from 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.960 maybe gone to some jumbo more jumbo packages down there 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.120 and saying, hey, listen, you're gonna crowd the box, We're 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.280 gonna run it at you. Because you look at four 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.920 days production, it's been interesting to me that he's seventh 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.000 and nneofil and rushing. I know he's got a lot 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.719 of attempts, but he is a workhorse. The other thing 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.760 is he's got eight total touchdowns now and he scored 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.959 touchdowns in three consecutive games on the ground. That's the 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.000 first time he's done that since his rookie season. And 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.400 he could score if he scores this week against the Rams, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.320 which we'll be tough, no doubt about it, because we 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.480 know about that front. We'll talk about that in a second. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.080 That'll be the first time in his career that he 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.480 said four touchdowns that were on the ground. I mean 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.160 four games. He's been he's been impressive, and he's certainly 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.520 been a shining line in the season and improving to 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.480 be a great pick up for the jail. I've been 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.600 really impressed by fourte and what he's been able to do. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.800 And so you would like to see some of that 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.000 run production turned into touchdowns in the red zone and 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.400 getting those hard yards and those types of things. And 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:18.920 um so I completely agree with that. Uh fits uh 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:23.560 where I've turned this ball game. You were in this 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.440 position a couple of times where the team might be 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:31.600 struggling and start starting to get past the midway point 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.440 of the season, and you know where the fans mindset is. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.920 What goes through a quarterback's mind when you know that 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.480 the fan is always looking for that next savior. So 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.720 in this case, and and a lot of teams that 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.200 are struggling, where are they looking? They're looking to the 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.000 backup quarterback. When is this guy gonna come in? So 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.199 in this specific case, it's Bryce Petty. But for you 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:03.320 to go into this game at home, how do you 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:08.599 ignore the noise of what's happening inside Not only the 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.840 fan base, because I think you probably can insult insulate 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:17.120 yourself from that, but the constant media attention as far 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:22.480 as hey, uh, the opinions out there. If hey, the 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.840 Jets gotta turn the page, it's time to look at 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.640 Brice buddy. Yeah, this is probably one of the most 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.440 difficult situations as a professional quarterback. And the reason I 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.000 can say that as cause I was in it. Remember 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.040 back in two thousand and seven, our team is one 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.600 of thick uh and we're playing the Buffalo Bills. I'm 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.760 dealing with the high ankle spraining and nothing's going well, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.000 and so the booze are the loudest I ever heard 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.720 in the meadow lands, and so that this is probably 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.440 gonna be his biggest challenge of his career, especially as 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.560 a jet there's no question. Because what I hope that 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.040 happens is that there's a sparks of energy and momentum 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.360 created by the special teams in defense where it's not 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.880 all put on the quarterback, especially with the you know, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.320 with a need that's a little bit difficult to play with, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.880 and because it's going to be one of those games 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.280 where your face in a tough front, that's gonna be 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.000 an ugly game. It's not gonna be pretty because of 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.360 their front and defensively what they've been able to do. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.040 And so that just all the things that are in 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:27.640 line for fans to boo and be negative and do 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.320 all these things, they're all right there. They just are 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.040 with the team you're playing, the situation that your own 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.800 team is in. They're all there for it to happen 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.760 on Sunday. And so I hope that the special teams 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:44.120 in defense are able to create some positive momentum, give 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.640 the offense a short field, get some quick and easy 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.960 points to keep those booze at a minimum, especially early, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.120 because it's it's like a snowball effect as they continue 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.520 to grow by the third and fourth chorpal quarters. Sometimes 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.840 it can be completely unbearable. You're a human being. Yeah, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.120 like you just mentioned, Uh, we treat you guys like 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.960 robots sometimes, but you definitely can hear it if it's happening. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:14.000 And at the same time, you're professional enough that you 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.640 know you gotta take care of business at the same time, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.120 So it's really gonna help. Uh, it fits in the 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.680 whole team if we see a fast start at home, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.480 because you know where this fan base is at right now, impatient, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.360 upset with where the team is at at three and six, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:37.040 and they can get after you early. Absolutely, and that's 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.720 why you know I would I would have hoped that 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.800 the game would be away for Fitzpatrick or you're coming 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.240 back from Miami with a win. That makes things a 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.680 little bit better because this team is like two plays 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.600 away from being five and four. Um. Now we can 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.160 say that about multiple teams in this league and understand 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.720 the reality of that pote'stic case and so it's never 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.480 as bad as you think, it's never as good as 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.160 you think think. Um, the problem with this team all 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.159 year compared to last year. Last year, this team found 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.639 ways to win. This year, this team is finding ways 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.360 to lose. And it's all across the board. Uh, it's 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.400 not on one side of the ball or one player. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.199 Everybody has a hand in this three and six records. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:26.040 And Sunday was the epitome of that special teams. Uh 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.119 chipped in and losing this ball game. The offense chipped 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.399 in and losing this ball game. And even though you 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.600 can look at the defense and go to under seventy 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.720 four yards and all the great things they did, they 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.480 still had a hand in losing this ball game. Whether 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.879 it be the last three minutes of a game not 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.480 being able to stop the offense to get the ball 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.160 back to the offense to have a chance to win, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.639 whether it be a couple of the big plays that 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.480 were given up that nullifies the great play elsewhere. Uh, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.760 how about the unsportsmanlike penalties and things like that. I mean, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.040 so all three phases have it in to the three 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.840 and six record, and there's certainly not one person or 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.239 one side you can complete. I don't want to talk 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.600 about officiating too much, And you're right about the flags, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.360 and Todd Bowls has always taken the right stance there 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.080 if it's a penalty. We got to clean it up 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.840 and ton penalties is way too much. You talk about 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.600 the special teams return that was the game deciding score. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.920 We talked about the red zone inefficiencies, and with all 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.480 that being said, the Jets have to be so frustrated 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.720 because again, this is another game where you might be 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.800 able to come out of the stadium and say, you 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.720 know what, we were a better team in the trenches, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.560 and maybe for large portions of that game we were 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.040 the better team, but they just haven't been able to finish. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:47.200 But I want to ask you about the officiating um 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.240 and I'm not trying to get you in trouble, but 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.960 some of that stuff, don't you think it's ticky tack, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.640 the Jarvis Landry buster screen. It's almost like I know 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.400 they but they You tell this, dear kid, as you're 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.480 coaching now, is that they're always gonna get the last guy. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.040 But a lot of that stuff after after the whistle 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.320 um early in the game. Isn't that I'm the officials 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.080 to say, hey, listen, next time, you're both getting one. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.240 And then after that, what you know, you're gonna get 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:16.960 thrown out of the game or something. So they get 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.000 after it early. I feel like the Jets maybe got 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.080 the short on there early, and listen, they lost the 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.160 ball game because their all miscuse. I'm not blaming the officials, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:31.359 but a couple of those plays early, the prior one, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.160 maybe I gotta watch the replay a couple more times 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.480 from the press box level. I thought he was just 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.640 celebrating a play. I think sometimes we're trying to take 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:45.080 celebration out of the game. And I know everybody can't 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.720 be Jim Brown. I mean, I like the Jim Brown approach, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.840 but everybody's got to be different. I don't know. Uh, 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.120 I'm having a hard time to deal with it sometimes 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.000 when I watch what's happened on the field, well, and 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.720 I think there's two things here. They're no doubt that 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.879 the buster screen penalty with Tiki tach Um. Both of 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.159 those guys reminded me of Odell Beckham and Josh Norman, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.320 just not to that degree. Right there, they're cat fighting 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.240 basically and trying to establish um an attitude and a 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.320 will with each other because they're they're going at it 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.000 every down, and that you would hope that as an 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.840 officiating crew, you see that you jump in saying hey, guys, 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.439 knock it off. I get it, but let's know, a 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.919 warning would have been nice. There, Um, there's no question. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.280 And then some of the other things. I think it's 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.320 a culture change where it's such a meat culture and 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.120 look what I did. I think sometimes the officials are 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.000 caught in the cross airs are going, Okay, where do 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:40.720 where do you draw the line? Where do you draw 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.080 the line of where somebody's just celebrating himself, which, by 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.240 the way, we play a team game. But I'm just saying, 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.639 but then and then where is it too much? You know? 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.720 And unfortunately that's a subjective call. And so I would say, 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.480 as a player, and this is what being a professional 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:00.800 is is understanding the environment that you're in, understanding the 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.520 game that you play, and as badly as you want 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.159 to celebrate yourself, you gotta remember there's ten other guys 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.760 and forty three on the sideline. They're right there with you. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.480 And then secondly that that the official does have the 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.800 opportunity and the potential to call the flag. And so 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.200 if I'm a three and five team, I'm not doing 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.920 anything to take momentum away from us because we're struggling 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:24.840 as it is, trying to make a play in winning game, 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.840 So that would be my mindset if it were me. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.119 It's a fair point, and I totally agree with you 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.679 on the on the Buster Jarvis Landry thing. You know, 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.680 I think early in a ballgame you try to set 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.639 the tonos an official, but I don't know if you 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.119