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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the almost famous OG podcast with me and

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Speaker 1: my husband. We just went from Colorado to Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and we decided to have a chat not at home,

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Speaker 1: because why not.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know who were having this chat.

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Speaker 3: So what are we supposed to talk about?

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Speaker 1: We can talk about anything, really, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: my podcast, so but I think just life in general.

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Speaker 1: Let's just give give the people a little glimpse into

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Speaker 1: life lately and what's going on with us. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sure I didn't have a choice, you did not, but

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Speaker 2: you're anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's actually true. So we're here for the iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: music words. And I know I'm really excited, but we

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Speaker 1: have a member of the family who is also probably

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Speaker 1: way more excited than me, and that is our daughter Blakesley.

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Speaker 1: She is so she's so excited, babe. We were in

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Speaker 1: the car, so Blakesley and I for everybody listening, Blakesley

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Speaker 1: and I flew out to Los Angeles last night and

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Speaker 1: Ryan flewent today because he was working. And I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Blake's look up, who is performing or who's going to

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Speaker 1: be there or whatever, and she looked up everybody and

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Speaker 1: she was like and Kelsey Ballerini And I was like,

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Speaker 1: do you know what that means? And she's like no,

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Speaker 1: And I go, do you know who Kelsey Ballerina Ballerina

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Speaker 1: do you know John B And She's like what outer ranks?

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Speaker 1: You know how obsessed she has been with that show?

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Speaker 1: She was freaking out that he might be there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is like for a teenage girl. So our daughter

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Speaker 1: is fifteen, almost sixteen, almost sixteen. It's crazy. She turns

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Speaker 1: sixteen in gosh, what is it like two weeks now.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what today is somewhere around there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like two weeks away.

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Speaker 1: That makes me happy and so sad at the same time. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: so teenage girl dreams like this event. I'm so grateful

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Speaker 1: for just because she is living out her best life dreams.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think she's really excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so fun. I wish that Max could have

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Speaker 1: been here, but he's got some hockey obligations so he

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Speaker 1: couldn't be here. But to walk a red carpet and

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Speaker 1: get glammed, and you know, see people that she kind

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Speaker 1: few years back. Anyway, I'm really excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: You're feeling okay, you're feeling good about it.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not really I wouldn't go with I'm

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm actually more excited to see Blake Slee

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Speaker 2: and you know, have this opportunity for her. Wait, like,

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Speaker 2: we used to do this kind of stuff a lot

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Speaker 2: and and for her to have this opportunity and you know,

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Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff is pretty cool. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I don't think Max would have gotten the same

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Speaker 2: would be fun for him into music. I think he's

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Speaker 1: Totally, the red carpet stuff. Yeah, for sure, I agree. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be fun. And I mean Kenny Chesney's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of all the things that we used to do,

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Speaker 2: I think the award shows were probably yeah, up there

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Speaker 1: So and then afterwards we talked about Blakesley turning sixteen, which,

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Speaker 3: You, she's just no, I know.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully, I mean hopefully they'll both find their footing in

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Speaker 2: I think that's going to continue to be the case.

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Speaker 2: Where we're we'll just appreciate all of the all of

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Speaker 2: An adjustment, but yeah, that's still a ways often. So

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Speaker 2: Those are sort of the bigger things, but even just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's interesting because people always ask, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I like that you said closer to one hundred.

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Speaker 1: That means you're thinking that a hundred will be your number.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll make a hundred.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, just imagine this is totally off topic.

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Speaker 2: Fifty fifty years ago. Yeh, so what is that nineteen

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you're better in mass seventy well when

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Everything is so different. And then in another fifty years,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the world that way we go, Yeah, we'll prefer

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Speaker 1: It that's to be positive. Yes, uh huh, in hopes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, life is good. During this trip, we decide

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Speaker 1: I mean that the actual update, because that's what you

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Speaker 3: But certainly a lot.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and you feel like that. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is hope.

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