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<v Speaker 1>Are your ears bored? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>ten Today, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Our Radio is a radiophonic novella, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just an extra way of saying a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Season ten of Look At Thought Our Radio is totally nostalgic.

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<v Speaker 1>We're diving in with a four part series about the

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<v Speaker 1>Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not all.

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<v Speaker 1>Season ten is also launching in the wake of LA

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<v Speaker 1>wildfires and a new Trump presidency. As always, we're leaning

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<v Speaker 1>into community by conducting critical interviews with people leading the

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to rebuild LA and fight back against oppression.

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<v Speaker 2>Tune in to Look at Our Radio Season ten. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I call a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Love with every listen right at your fingertips.

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<v Speaker 2>Loka La Olaola, Loka Motes. Welcome to season ten of

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<v Speaker 2>Loka Tora Radio. I'm Theosa and I'm Mala. Loka Tora

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<v Speaker 2>Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving are present and

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<v Speaker 2>shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in to Capitulo dos

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<v Speaker 2>Ciento's Veinti Sace two twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time on Loca to Our Radio, we interviewed Latin

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<v Speaker 1>Negra about her book about her work and sex education,

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<v Speaker 1>and about how important sex education is for LATINX communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and give that episode a listen, leave us

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<v Speaker 1>a review, share with a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so excited to be in conversation today with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We recently put out a survey to our listeners, and overwhelmingly,

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<v Speaker 2>the feedback is that y'all want more episodes of just

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<v Speaker 2>Mala and I chatting. You said that you appreciate the interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>you love the interviews, but you also want a little

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<v Speaker 2>more of just us. So today we're doing just that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm flattered.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for not being sick of us just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>They love us, They love us, Thank God, they love

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<v Speaker 2>what we have. Yes, we do have a special something

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<v Speaker 2>we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a chemistry we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get us started, let's talk about our climax

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<v Speaker 2>and cry of the week. Mala, how did you climax

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<v Speaker 2>this past week?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Well, there's just so much going on

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy about. My pets are thriving. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say that generally pop us in my new pet who

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say much about it this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Mala loves to give a teaser. She loves to like

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<v Speaker 2>give the people a little something, but then won't actually

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<v Speaker 2>like say what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, of course, you know, like keep them coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to any episode of the podcast and you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>that's a recurring theme.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to tell you, but I just can't tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can just guess. You can fill in the blanks,

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<v Speaker 1>use your imagination. Pets are thriving, families thriving. My spring

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<v Speaker 1>break was spectacular. Also, can't really talk too much about

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<v Speaker 1>where we went because we're trying to protect its integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also you understand because you went to the

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<v Speaker 1>same place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mala doesn't want to gentrify this part of Mahinkling

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<v Speaker 2>just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, not just yet, So we're being

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<v Speaker 1>tight lipped about this absolute paradise we spent a few

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<v Speaker 1>days in. So I would say that was my climax,

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<v Speaker 1>was my spring break. School's going well, midterms that's a

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<v Speaker 1>climax of sorts, you know, yeah, yeah, and then cry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted because of all of the above things that

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<v Speaker 1>also make me so happy. I'm producing a documentary and

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming to the end of our production. We like

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<v Speaker 1>as of this recording, have our final pickup weekend coming

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<v Speaker 1>up to film our final scenes and then we're deep

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<v Speaker 1>into post production. But I got brought on to another

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<v Speaker 1>project to produce a virtual thesis. So we had our

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<v Speaker 1>first meeting this morning, like our first with me as

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<v Speaker 1>a producer. I'm joining the team, so my first production

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with them. So and then of course we're in

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<v Speaker 1>season ten and so there's just a lot going on

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very sleepy, but it's great. So if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>crying about anything, it's just that it's an embarrassment of

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<v Speaker 1>riches at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's lovelys, a lovely way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to be super positive, silver linings all

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<v Speaker 1>the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a really positive way to look at life.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about you, Yosa, how are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see how did I climax this week? I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to borrow from you And this is now a couple

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<v Speaker 2>weeks old for me, but I'm still kind of relishing

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<v Speaker 2>it in it is that Atahen, my baby, my Pomeranian,

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<v Speaker 2>he turned ten years old. Amazing, he turned ten on

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<v Speaker 2>March sixth, and I had originally planned a birthday, little

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<v Speaker 2>birthday party for him. I invited my friends to come

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<v Speaker 2>over and bring all my friends with dogs and just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just hang out. Let's dog's play, we can

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<v Speaker 2>have some mimosas. And things did not go as planned

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to cancel and it was a whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I tried rescheduling, and it just I've shared now

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on social media, but one of our family dogs, Oliver,

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, and so it just felt like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see all the dogs in the backyard without him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so but I still really want to celebrate that

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<v Speaker 2>Heen's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Millennial of me, so latin a dog mom of me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still want to have a little something for

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<v Speaker 2>him because ta Heen. If you follow me on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that Heen loves to pose. If you

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<v Speaker 2>try to take a photo of him, he will open

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<v Speaker 2>his little mouth and give his little dog smile, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just one of my favorite things in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite things about him. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I still have this idea to take him just let's

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<v Speaker 2>just have a little day. He and I so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>planning that this week he's going to get groomed. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take him to a little dog bakery, have

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<v Speaker 2>his little photo taken. E Yah, just to commemorate the

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<v Speaker 2>tenth birthday, because it feels like such a milestone, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is these little dogs are so special and so sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has been like my milestone baby. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>was with me when I was a senior in college

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<v Speaker 2>at UCSB, and I have my photo with him when

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<v Speaker 2>I graduated in my cap and gown. He was at

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<v Speaker 2>my wedding. I wanted to make sure that he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the photos, and so he was there for just

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<v Speaker 2>before the reception, before the wedding, actually he was just

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<v Speaker 2>there for photos, and then in my cap and gown

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<v Speaker 2>for when I got my masters, and so he's been,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in all my photos for all of my

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<v Speaker 2>milestones these past ten years. So for that alone, it

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<v Speaker 2>just feels so special. So that's definitely I have so

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<v Speaker 2>much gratitude for just that little little dog, the little

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<v Speaker 2>baby in my life, especially because we've gone through so

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<v Speaker 2>much loss with our pets. In the last three years.

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<v Speaker 2>We lost our family cat he was fifteen. Tragically lost Gusco,

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<v Speaker 2>who was only three and then recently Oliver. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just with that silver lining, like there's so much loss,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's also so much life and wanting to just

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate his little milestone, you know, is how I'm feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's really a celebration also of yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, and all the things that he's walked

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<v Speaker 1>alongside you, absolutely wherever you've gone, yes, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's beautiful. I definitely like think of him as

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<v Speaker 2>my little compagno when I think of him more than

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<v Speaker 2>a dog, but a little companion of the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's my climax of the week. And then

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<v Speaker 2>my cry. I've shed lots of tears, especially today in

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<v Speaker 2>our before we got to the studio. Without getting too

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<v Speaker 2>much into the weeds, it's really hard being a caregiver,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's this very weird thing where I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm living the life sometimes of like a middle aged lady.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm only thirty and thirty. I'm thirty one. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've shared this before, I think, but my

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<v Speaker 2>parents are older. My mom had me later in life

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad is in his eighties, and so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that comes with having older parents, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of care that goes involved that's very invisible,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, because my parents are still very independent. They

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<v Speaker 2>can drive. My dad is even still working part time.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom is retired. But there's just a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>invisible labor that goes into being a caregiver because they're

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<v Speaker 2>still independent, but there's some coordinating that has to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom had a knee replacement last October and that's

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<v Speaker 2>just been a very long and intense recovery and so

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<v Speaker 2>she had another procedure yesterday and it went well, but

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<v Speaker 2>just was her recovery is a little harder than we expected.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with that, like I have the blessing of

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<v Speaker 2>being self employed, but there's some days like today, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to be in the studio. I have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the student one day of the week. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>little less flexible, and so it's just sometimes challenging. And

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<v Speaker 2>today was one of those days where it was really challenging,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like the labor and the managing of

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<v Speaker 2>everything was just too much. And I was just crying

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<v Speaker 2>all the way over here because I thought that I

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<v Speaker 2>got something right and I got something wrong, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels like just emotional sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you also get so many things right, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>try like a ninety nine point nine accuracy rate. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like a ninety accurate and so if one thing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, it can feel like the straw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes. And I was kind of reflecting on that

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<v Speaker 2>that I have used meltdowns, breakdowns, burnout as kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like my like the boiling point, right, and I'm when

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<v Speaker 2>I was driving over here sobbing, I was thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot let things get here, like I have to

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<v Speaker 2>let either set a boundary, make changes, do something differently

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<v Speaker 2>before I get to the meltdown point, because you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be making changes when you're in the meltdown. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>at that point it's too late. And so like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>talks about like self care before burnout, and it's I

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<v Speaker 2>feel very much in that same realm, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be making these changes when you're in the thick of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to like make them before you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the meltdown. So that's what I'm dealing with this week.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to be okay, it's going to be fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just a little bit in my feelings today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very valid friend. You do a lot. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>You're amazing. Thank you, You're my hero. Thanks girl, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you too.

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<v Speaker 1>And you I think you deserve a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I do deserve an app later. I will

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<v Speaker 2>take a nap.

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<v Speaker 1>Later after we've finished recording this episode. And that's been

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<v Speaker 1>our climax and cry of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere, lookamotives.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, and we're back with more of

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<v Speaker 1>our episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving into our next segment of oh Ye lookas we

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<v Speaker 2>have a question from one of our favorite longtime listeners, Jackie.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked us this question, which I'm obsessed with. Are

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<v Speaker 2>we teenage thirty year olds or are we teenage senoras.

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<v Speaker 1>You are now listening to Oh yes, oh Lord, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just technically and realistically we are in our thirties, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we still sometimes do feel like teenage girls.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, of course, as we've established, we have our

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<v Speaker 1>Senora proclivities, we do hard hardcore. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I'm in actual Senora, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't think. I don't know if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to still want to feel like a teenage girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who knows who.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm going to I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen when I'm an old lady, But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to assume that at some point this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>will wear off.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe who's to say, Who's to say? There's this video,

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<v Speaker 2>this TikTok that went viral of this Senora. No Sissia

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<v Speaker 2>is Mahicana Argentina or No, I don't remember where the

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<v Speaker 2>video was from. I don't know where I'm getting Aartentina from.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was this senora who was opening up a

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<v Speaker 2>blind box, which are very popular right now, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a blind box of a la booboo, which is

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<v Speaker 2>this like little creature monster that's adorable, and went super viral.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You taught me about these. I had never did. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a low what what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? A la booboo?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to send me a photo. I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 1>it on your purse? Yes? Yes it is, Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And the senora was so excited to open up this

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<v Speaker 2>blind box. It seems like the context is that her

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<v Speaker 2>granddaughter or someone in her family gave her this and

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<v Speaker 2>she was so happy and excited and was like, get

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<v Speaker 2>gur she loved it, and that makes me think that

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<v Speaker 2>that little that teenage self is always there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the whimsy.

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<v Speaker 2>The whimsy, it's whimsical. It may not be as like

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<v Speaker 2>external as it is now in our thirties when we're Senora's,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like internally there's still that piece that

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<v Speaker 2>seed will always be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's very sweet, that's very sweet. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I love the archetypal care free Senora who

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<v Speaker 1>like gardens and is barefoot all the time. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like does what she wants and dresses

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<v Speaker 1>up funky, you know, like that sense of magic. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I hope to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say that sounds like that will be

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<v Speaker 2>you in the future. You already have that kind of whimsy.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had your hippie era.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, And I have to be honest with myself

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not really an era it like is, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just part of who it's a part of your identity, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of my personality. So yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the future. So going back to this question,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we are just teenage Senora as.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, Yeah, that's true. I wore little heels for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in a couple of months. Because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>training for the marathon, I was like very much prioritizing

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<v Speaker 2>my feet health and care and like making sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they were always comfortable. And I've been wearing mainly boots

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<v Speaker 2>because of winter with a little heel. But yesterday I

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<v Speaker 2>wore heels and my feet were hurting and I felt uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And these were shoes that I wore to our iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>launched dinner, so was not that long ago, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember loving them and feeling like they were super comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I thought, like, Wow, your thirties come

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<v Speaker 2>at you fast, because these shoes were not uncomfortable at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, but they're kind of uncomfortable now and that

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<v Speaker 2>makes me sad, And so that makes me think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I am a teenage Senora and not a teenage

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<v Speaker 2>thirty year old, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, that's so real. Also, like, can I say,

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<v Speaker 1>not only did you wear those shoes, but the dress

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<v Speaker 1>was so tight? Yes, we could barely walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>barely walk. Yeah, we were like little Barbie dolls with

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<v Speaker 1>little tiny gates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly what we were.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of it, all.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was gorgeous. I mean you can the photos are

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<v Speaker 1>on our Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know if I could do that now right,

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<v Speaker 2>But at the time I was still twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Those years make a difference. Yes, you also weren't running

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<v Speaker 1>that much back then.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't running marathons.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you're using your feet for other things

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<v Speaker 1>now I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, And my mom is someone who wears her heels.

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<v Speaker 2>When after she had her hip replacement and she was

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<v Speaker 2>in the clear, one of the first things she asked

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<v Speaker 2>for doctor is when can I wear heels again?

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<v Speaker 1>What a battie?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I've never been asked that question before.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. He doesn't treat batties.

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<v Speaker 2>No, clear, first time treating a batty, clearly. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she still wears her heels. And sometimes they don't get

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<v Speaker 2>augnad because I'm my lady. Please, we're gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of walking. Please some flats on, But you

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<v Speaker 2>can't keep a batty down.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, it's like no, it's like that episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Modern Family where Gloria wears her heels to Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Like exactly, that's exactly it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that Oh, I love it. I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you talked more explicitly about the marathon yet?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I hadn't run it when we were last recording.

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<v Speaker 2>I did hit a PR. I ran the marathon in

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<v Speaker 2>four hours, in forty seven minutes, so I took nine

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<v Speaker 2>minutes off of last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I started pretty conservatively, per my coach, so I started

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<v Speaker 2>at like an eleven minute pace and just maintained the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way. And when I reached a mile eighteen, my

0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 2>coach was there and she was like, Okay, we can

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<v Speaker 2>stay here and you're still going to hit a PR

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<v Speaker 2>four fifty four And She's like, that's still a PR.

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<v Speaker 2>That's three minutes. And she was like, or we can

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<v Speaker 2>like up it, like how are you feeling? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like I can do it. And so I like

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<v Speaker 2>just increased my my pace mile by my and I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to hit like sub sub eleven. So my

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<v Speaker 2>average pace overall was ten fifty eight and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to four forty seven, and so that's exciting. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can beat that now, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that because I've just realized, like or

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<v Speaker 2>now having two marathons under my belt. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so much on the body, and there's just your

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<v Speaker 2>body has its limits and I can challenge it and

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<v Speaker 2>I can train for it, but just how how exhausting

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<v Speaker 2>it is on your body. Like I'm okay maintaining this,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just let's stay here. Maybe we chase a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty second shaving, like thirty seconds off, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know about shaving like another like nine

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes off.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot, it's a lot. We'll see. I mean, with more training,

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<v Speaker 2>more time, like you know, you get stronger. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how I feel about it next year. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was my that wasrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, sense amazing. I mean that's fast. You ran fast, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks girl, good, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere, lookomotives, we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back with more of our episode. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>We're bringing back an older segment that we haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>done during this network era, and we haven't done in

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<v Speaker 2>a while because I don't know, we just have it.

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<v Speaker 1>We just haven't and I don't know. It's a little incendiary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a little bit so if you're a longtime listener.

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<v Speaker 2>You might remember this segment called Weird Things White Women Did,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was very much inspired by the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Mala was working predominantly with white women at this period

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<v Speaker 2>for a period of time, for a period of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it inspired the segment so that she could

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<v Speaker 2>kind of talk about her experiences in general terms.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, very general observations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and so that was one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we kind of let the segment go

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<v Speaker 2>in a way because the exposure was not there in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. But we're bringing it back because we

0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 2>heard from you are listeners that you really liked that

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<v Speaker 2>segment and you really wanted it to come back. So

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<v Speaker 2>here we are giving the people what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what they want. I mean, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>really depends on our environment whether or not we have

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<v Speaker 1>regular contact with white women and white womanhood, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>honestly like hard for us to find unless we're in

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<v Speaker 1>those spaces.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not really in those spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So what we're going to do today is for

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners who are online and keep up with what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, you will already have heard about this. So

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<v Speaker 1>for those who have not, this will be news to you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is news to me because when you told me,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wish I didn't know about this stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it is what it is. We get

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<v Speaker 1>news how we get news. So for our weird things

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<v Speaker 1>white women did this week, we're talking about something that

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<v Speaker 1>has been going back and forth on TikTok. But Bad

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<v Speaker 1>Baby also known as the catch me Outside girl of

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Phil Fame, real name Danielle Briugoli. Some of you

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<v Speaker 1>might know her as, like, you know, the person who

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<v Speaker 1>made like millions of dollars on OnlyFans in a very

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<v Speaker 1>short period of time, one of many, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like raking it in on OnlyFans. Well, Bad Baby

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<v Speaker 1>the aforementioned and Alabama Barker, daughter of Travis Barker, now

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<v Speaker 1>stepdaughter to Courtney Kardashian. So this is Kardashian beef also

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<v Speaker 1>right in that specific way through marriage, right, So, Bad

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<v Speaker 1>Baby and Alabama Barker have been beefing and writing dis

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<v Speaker 1>tracks about each other, and the consensus right now is

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that Bad Baby's winning. She's like written multiple diss tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bring up the Kardashians because Bad Baby brings

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<v Speaker 1>up the Kardashians as a way of dissing Alabama Barker.

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<v Speaker 1>And in one of the music videos, Bad Baby had

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<v Speaker 1>like an actor on the drums, tatted Beanie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yes, like families are involved.

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Families are very much involved. So she has like a

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 1>fake Travis Barker and her distract music video. So the

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<v Speaker 1>white girls are beefing.

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<v Speaker 2>That scares me because that means we're in a recession.

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<v Speaker 2>Like literally, if the white girls are beefing, they're fighting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we are in a recession. Oh yeah, it's a telltale signs.

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<v Speaker 2>And people have been making observations because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>formally we're in a recession, like it hasn't been declared

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<v Speaker 2>a recession, but people have been making their observations about

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<v Speaker 2>the things that mean we're in a recession, like lipstick

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<v Speaker 2>sales going up. That's one sign that we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>recession because women start to spend like things like small luxuries,

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<v Speaker 2>affordable luxuries, and during a recessions, lipstick sales increase.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, fascinating girls are beefing. We're in a recession.

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<v Speaker 1>The economy's about to tank.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap, that's that's bad that's what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really bad news. So basically we're yeah, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>reading the signs here, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's a science to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly, there's clearly a science to it. I mean, eggs

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<v Speaker 1>are through the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, you know what. You know what I did

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<v Speaker 2>this week? Tell me it felt very dystopian in some ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt very eerie of the pandemic, of the early

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<v Speaker 2>days of the pandemic. But I was at the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go to the gym twice a week at

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<v Speaker 2>six am, and so I'm up early those days. And

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<v Speaker 2>my session went a little longer than usual, and it

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.400
<v Speaker 2>went so long that I was like, well, I can

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<v Speaker 2>just kill time for thirty minutes and wait for the

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<v Speaker 2>Trader Joe's to open and go buy ag and clear amount.

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<v Speaker 2>And well it's only one limit you one dozen per person.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is dystopian in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And so I go to the Trader Joe's. I'm

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>parked by seven fifty. I'm just waiting. I start to

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<v Speaker 2>see people. So people are waiting for the trader doors

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<v Speaker 2>to open. They had the same idea I did. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've never I've never at the grocery store that early,

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<v Speaker 2>and so this is new to me. Maybe people always

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<v Speaker 2>do that. And so I'm okay, get my little bags,

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<v Speaker 2>I get my little carrito, I'm waiting. I go inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone immediately goes to the eggs and like there's order.

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.880
<v Speaker 2>People aren't like rushing. There's there's plenty of eggs for

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone that's there at that time, but everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>clearly like going straight to the eggs to fill up

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>their car or get just one for their cart. Everyone's

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>checking them. And then we get our eggs and we

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 2>go on with our grocery shopping. And that was it.

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>And so yes, another example.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is all bad. That is very bad. Yes,

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that's super dystopian. But I am glad you got your.

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Egg I got my eggs. Yes, yeah, can you believe

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it.

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is like, okay, so not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was a couple months ago now. But my

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend was like, is anything, like, does anything worry you?

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And I said the first thing that came to mind, honestly,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>was yes, I'm worried that if we experience some type

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of environmental or natural disaster that all of us in

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>southern California will run out of water very quickly, and

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that there will be chaos in the streets and it

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>will be utter mayhem and we are not going to

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>be able to get out of here. And he was

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>like what, But I'm like, no, this is what I

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>worry about. And then I kid you not. The next

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>day the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Behan oh okay, yes.

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, and then everything that comes with that that

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 1>we've seen unfold. Of course, inevitably things like that to

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a small degree happen, you know, and there are issues

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 1>with where do people live, people's stuff, the grocery stores,

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the eggs, all of it. So not to

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>be like a conspiracy theorist doomsday prepper, but it's like,

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>these are the signs right of collapse.

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, late stage capitalism, that's what we're in, end of empire.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 2>This is like not, yeah, this has happened before. And

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>something you said, Mala a couple of years ago, I

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>actually think about when I start to get a little

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>anxious stressed about the state of the world, and Mala

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>on an episode I couldn't tell you which one, but

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>she said something like, I'm sure people forty years ago,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty years ago, one hundred years ago felt like it

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 2>was the end of times, and they persevered and they

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>had to keep going, and they made their art and

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>they had to live their lives. As we descend into fascism,

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>that is something that I'm thinking about, that we got

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>to be ready, we got to stay ready, but the

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>art continues. Oh yes, So I'm kind of looking back

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>at historical times and looking back at the writing I've

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 2>actually believe it or not, because you know, I am

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 2>a recovering Catholic, but I have been very interested in

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>revisiting the work of Bishop Archbishop Oscar Rometo because he

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>was a liberation theologist, and I feel like that in

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>a way, I am like, am I going to become

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>a Catholic again out of spite? That's kind of how

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I've been feeling lately. Not that I'm going to go

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>rejoin the church or anything, but more so like leaning

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 2>on liberation theology and thinking about how like Christian nationalism

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>is running our country right now, and then how do

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 2>we combat it? And I feel like there is something

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>there in revisiting the work of Archbishop.

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Oscar Rometos, who is also a saint, who is also

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 3>a saint, who is a Saint In.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really fascinating. You know, throughout history, I

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>think that there have been a lot of religious people

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>from different denominations who have contributed greatly to like, yeah,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>liberal politics. I mean Martin Luther King of course is

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>an example. We can even think of someone like Mother Teresa,

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and of course there are other examples, And so I

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>think that there's something to be said about, like, yeah,

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like revisiting those works from these minds, yes, because other

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think obviously, like like a leftist politic

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>is more likely to maybe want to study the works

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of like folks who are maybe more gorilla.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh absolutely, you know, yeah.

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>But why limit your sources?

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think my my my initial, my gut

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>is always like revisit Audrey Lord, sure of course, right,

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>revisiting the works of like W. Du Bois, Paulo Frey's

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Like, there's all those works that

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>like my gut, and my instinct is like revisit those

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and learn, let's learn from it in a different way

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>this time, right, Because anytime you revisit something, you're learning

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>it in a new way or you're seeing it with

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>new eyes. But there's also like, okay, wait, let me

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 2>actually go back to liberation theology and let me let

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>me see what I can learn from there at this

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>point in time, because I feel like there's there's just

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>something calling me to it, and I'm like, God, I'm

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>going to become a Catholic?

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Got a spite? Is Jesus sure? Literally like literally Jesus Lord. Why?

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It makes me think of our listeners as well, to

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to our episodes with Prisca who

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>literally studied theology yes, and is very much liberation minded

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in her work and has has herself found a way

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to fuse those things through study and writing. So there's

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I say that to say there's some

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>blueprint for this.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yes, And I think it's like.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Very cool.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tbd, I'll let you know, Yeah, my journey.

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I love that Marcella Argueo has an Oscar Romero tattoo

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>she does on her own. She does that could be

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>someone interested on like facilitating your your study group around this.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Someone interesting to be in conversation with. Yes, yes, there's

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot. There's a lot, and I think, you know,

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the powers that be want us to be isolated. They

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>want us to be afraid, they want us to put

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>our heads down, they want us to feel overwhelmed. And

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>so this is a very good time to invest in

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>your community and build new community as well.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>In this episode is very much inspired by some of

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 2>the feedback that we got from our listeners recently, and

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 2>one listener in particular asked us to kind of just

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>nerd out on some of the things that we've studied

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>on scholarly things, on school things. And so I've been

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>out of school now for almost two years.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it either, And so we kind of

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to spend some time nerding out on the

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>degrees that we have and also are currently in pursuit of.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>For those maybe just picking up here, I started an

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>MFA program, which stands for Masters of Fine Arts at

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>USC at the School of Cinematic Arts, and the degree

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is in Film and Television Production. So I'm in my

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>third semester, so I'm, you know, second year of a

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>three year program and it's a production degree. So we

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>make movies. We're not reading books, right, We're not in

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a lab. We are on set. We do have classroom

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>instructional hours during the week and then on the weekends

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>we're on set and we're filming, and it's been so

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>fun and I've learned so much. And this year I've

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>really gotten in my producer bag and I've just been

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like recommended to different crews to produce films student films,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>which is really exciting because I think in a production degree,

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what you want to do, is you want to

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>work on as many movies as possible. So so my

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>nerd out right now is all in the weeds of

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like producing and creative producing. And right now I'm producing

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a documentary called All of Us Girls, which is about

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a sexual assault amongst a group of Chinese women and

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the survivors in the documentary telling their stories and talking

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>about the cultural aspects of processing their trauma as East

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Asian women. And that's been a really cool production to

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>be on. I'm the only non Mandarin speaker and I

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>am learning a lot is all the way around every

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>aspect of this production. So it's been a beautiful experience.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>And this summer I'll also be producing I sort of

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>describe this at the top of this episode, but a

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>virtual thesis, so it's a mix of live action and

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>VR and animation, and we're probably going to use like

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>unreal engine and the LED wall and all kinds of things.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be a very new field and

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>area for me because I've never done anything like that,

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just excited to learn. And as you know,

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>look at that our productions, we are a multimedia production house.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So I think part of the reason I wanted to

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>go to film school was so that we can start

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like branching out into these other types of media and

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>make all kinds of work absolutely, whether it's TV shows

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>or movies or documentaries or maybe something animated or a game,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>what have you. So yeah, I'm just like soaking it

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>all in and saying yes to everything.

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we have been, you know, thinking, you and

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I about lots of different film and television projects, you know,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like aspirational ones, and we've brainstormed a lot along the

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>way along in many years, even before you were you

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>got this degree. So it makes so much sense. So

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 2>given now that you're more trained, you're formalized, you're learning,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>how would you say things differ from like when we

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>were making things too for Indy Rasquatch It like back

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>in the day very gorilla style filmmaking, where we were

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like just randomly shooting places. And now you've learned the

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>formal process of applying for permits and like the way

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>to do things. So how would you compare those experiences

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and maybe what you've learned.

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's so much. I want to start by saying

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm actually so impressed by what we were able

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to make without having any training whatsoever.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>And what did what have we made?

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:30.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we've made a few things. So first of all,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>good our YouTube channel. We have a look at thought

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>our productions YouTube channel subscribe. We have a little over

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a thousand subscribers, but we'd always love more. We don't

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>constantly feed the YouTube, but we have some like evergreen

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>work on the YouTube, one of which is our first

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>short film. It's about an eight minute film called Lokiita's Anonymous.

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And this film actually has a very high production value.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It looks beautiful, beautifully styled. I'm like receiving this training

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>at school. But then I look back at something like

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Loki Is Anonymous, and what it tells me is that

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>we were able to assemble such a talented team just

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>from our small like group of creative friends, because it

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>was all like friends who worked on it. Oh yeah,

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. Chava was our director essentially and also helped

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>with like DP work, but our other friend Ernie was

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>actually on camera, and then Michelle Morrow was doing our

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>sound work. Javi Mendoza helped us take the idea and

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>put a script together, and then Robert was doing our

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup. We produced it and got like wardrobe

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>taken care of and donations as far as like jewelry,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Belladonna donated like hair clips GLA crew. Yeah. The location

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>came through your nail contact.

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Valerie from now formally wit your Beauty Collective but

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 2>now Beauty Collective Lab still in Wittier.

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then Shava and Michelle edited the film. We

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>used music from an artist that I've known for a

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>few years. It's sell Choko, and it just like came

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>together and is like honestly so cute and so well done.

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>What it tells me is that we always had the

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>ability and the vision so check that out on YouTube,

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and the talent within our community. But now it's learning

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>how to do it professionally, right, so we can a

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>get paid to do this work, like someone could hire

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>us and we can do it or B we can

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>raise the funds and really know how to appropriately allocate

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>them to make the best possible version of our vision,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>right and we know who to call, you know, but

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:51.240
<v Speaker 1>we can like do everything you know industry standard.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:52.919
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely yeah.

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's also I think for me about like meeting

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>new people and even though it's USC and it's local,

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Like my cohort, I'm one of two Latinos and in

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the program it's very very few Latinos and almost like

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>no one who's local. There's like a couple sprinkled throughout

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the semesters, but like local folks and my cohort it's

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>me and one other student from Lakenata, you know. Everybody

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>else is from out of state or international, which is

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>actually really cool because it really forces me to network

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>way outside of my community and to work with people

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>way outside of my community and our immediate creative circle,

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>which is good because it's like there's new ideas, new themes,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>new topics, new point of view, and learning to work

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with different types of people and their different styles, you know,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and like being part of a team to like talk

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>about a subject matter that is so outside of me

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. But like just contributing to

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the greater project. Yeah, you know, so those have all

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>been very valuable as well well. Is like the hard skills,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like learning how to use the editing software, learning how

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to use the equipment, learning how to set up a

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>c stand and operate a camera and do like diit

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and work with hard drives and you know, the SD cards.

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Like it's all been great. So I hope to direct

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>some stuff in the future. Like Yosa mentioned, we have ideas,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and I came into school with some ideas of things

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>that I would love to pitch and get made while

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm there, Yeah, and while I can crew up and

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.879
<v Speaker 1>like have university support and just this like this really

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>dense collection of students in one place who are all

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>there just to make stuff. Like that's what they're there for.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's exciting.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 2>That's exciting. It is a really, I think wonderful place

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to be when you're a student and that's and you

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>get to create and you get to like learn and

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 2>do it together. I love being a student. I love

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>being like and not just a student of life obviously,

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you but like act like being enrolled in something that

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>my brain just like needs that kind of like structure,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and so I love that. I love that you're doing that.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I love that you're learning and you're definitely applying it here. Yeah,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>look at our productions.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>And there's more to come. There's always more to come,

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>always more to come. But yeah, check out some of

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>our older work on our YouTube channel, because every season

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>we've done like a video short, and we worked with

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the same people over and over again.

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And you'll see that even though it was Indian not

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>quote professional, that it is very professional.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was professional because we were making it in

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>a professional way and if we had professional energy behind it.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So check us out. Look at that our

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>productions on YouTube, and then of course you know, follow us,

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>look at Underscore Radio on all the other social media platforms. Yeah.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>And how about you, dude, let's talk about nerding out.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>So I nerded out on my film and TV stuff,

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>on my school stuff. Let's nerd out on specialized journalism.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I god, it feels like in so many

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>ways so long ago and in other ways not that

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>long ago, because logistically it wasn't that long ago. But

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I applied for two programs back in twenty twenty one.

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Just to take it back. Let's see, I was working

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>in residential care coming out of the pandemic, and I

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 2>knew I wanted. I really appreciated the stability of that job.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>At that point, I had been there for almost five years,

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and it helped me grow Lokatra because it was a

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>strict nine to five. I had a very stable paycheck,

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 2>I had very good healthcare, and it was close to home.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And I learned so much from my boss at that time.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Alicia. She was an incredible business boss lady,

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>and I learned so much from her without even realizing

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I was learning about running a business. But I would

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>like help her run payroll for like her side business.

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I would help her do a lot of like the

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>entrepreneurial stuff that she was doing as a very small

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>business owner, but also was working she was working for

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>like a bigger corporation. So I got to see both.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't realize at the time that I was

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 2>learning how to run a business and how to run

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>books and how to have a good accountant and all

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>those things that now I see, Oh yeah, Like I

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>picked a lot of that up from her, and so

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm very appreciative and grateful for who she was in

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>my life and we're still in contact now, but at

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that time I felt like things with the podcast were

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>still indie and things were challenging, and I was feeling like, Okay,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 2>my job is not fulfilling anymore. I'm ready to grow,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and so I just started up one applying to jobs

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and two applying to grad school. So I at the

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>time was in between like a public health program or

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a journalism program. And it was actually an event that

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>we did with HBO Max where we got to interview

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Idro Rodriguez and we got to watch her documentary before

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it came out on HBO Max. And there's something in

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the documentary where she says that her grandmother gave her

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 2>this advice where she or her grandmother tells her that,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, to kind of go all in for stand

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>up for comedy, because her grandmother says something along the

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>lines and I'm this is just you know, one up

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>to my memory. She says something like, you know, if

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of if you're planning for if you have

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>a Plan B, you're planning to fail. You're planning for

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>your planning to not work out. And I very much

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>was feeling like at the time, the public health degree

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 2>was like very practical. It's like, yes, I'm very passionate

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 2>about public health, and yes we need more latinas in

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>public health. But if I'm applying for a master's in

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that I'm spending all this money on it, then I'm

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>doing that with the intention of like, look, I thought,

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not branching out into what it can be. And

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>so hearing that advice made me go all in and

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought, Okay, we're gonna do straight journalism. I'm going

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 2>to apply to Columbia. I'm going to apply to US.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And when I applied to Columbia, I sat Mala down

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Okay, I'm going to apply to

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>grad school, and I need you to know that I'm

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.800
<v Speaker 2>still very invested in what we're doing and this is

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>just going to make it better and if I go

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 2>to New York, We're gonna make it work. And I

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>would like just let her know, like I'm still invested

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>in this. And so I applied to both programs. I

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>got into both programs, did a lot of soul searching,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>went through it. I really wanted to go to New York.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to go to Columbia when I got

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you have to go, yeah, and

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Mala was like, I will move with you. You have

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to go to multiple people offered to move with me.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Let me just tell you.

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>The support.

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>The support was there, but you know, just everything going

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>on in my life at the time. I also got

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>more money from USC, and I just didn't really have

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the budget to like move cross country. Like it was

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna take a lot of like you know, additional money

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to like move across the country. Tree established myself in

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>New York and it was an eleven month program at

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Columbia and also at USC, and I just felt like

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I had to keep my job. This was pre network

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>and so I was like, I can't be working East

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>coast hours with a West coast company and it was

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 2>just going to be too much for me. And so

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>after weighing everything out, I decided to stay local. Annenberg

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is still an incredible program. USC has gone through a

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>lot over the last couple of years, and I think

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>has really like fumbled a lot of things publicly internally,

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 2>but Annenberg for me, has always been like a really

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>bright spot in this very private white institution. And so

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that that was one of the reasons that

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I decided, like I'm going to do Annenberg and I did,

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and it was eleven months and it was super intense.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I wish that I could have done a two year program,

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>but it One of the reasons this program is eleven

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>months is that it's hard to ask a working journalist

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>to be a full time student for two years. And

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 2>so while even though I was working, ideally, you're not

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be working. Everybody tells you, all the instructors

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>tell you do not work. And that's crazy, Like it's

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>wild to tell, like a first gen student, you can't

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 2>you can't work, you can't have a job, because that's

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of privilege. It's a lot to ask someone

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>like not to have a second income.

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what they also said that to us

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>before last semester. Specifically, they were like, if you have

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a job or a hobby, quit, Like that is unhinged

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to tell anybody. But if it wasn't for the podcasting,

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how a full time job, yeah, would

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like allow for school at all, Like their flexibility is

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>not there.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I did. I did work, like for a job,

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I had a job, I had a job, an

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 2>amazing job, and I still love the people that work there.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And so I held that job for my summer session

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and fall semester, so six seven months, and they were

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>very flexible with me. I was working on campus constantly

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was a remote job, so it had that flexibility.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 2>And I was, you know, running the podcast. We had

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 2>just signed with the network, So all of those pieces

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>made it feel like the blink of an eye. Not

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.240
<v Speaker 2>only was the program really fast, but I was working

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a job running the podcast, so it.

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Just felt it was a lot.

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't really get to soak up in a

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 2>soak up a lot of the things that I think

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 2>my peers got to do. But that's part of it.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 2>That's part of being like an adult in a grad program.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not undergrad, it's really not. And I think

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>there's that Maybe maybe I went in kind of hoping

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 2>that I would be able to do everything, but you can't.

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Everyone has limitations. But for what I got to do,

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I really got to make some really

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>incredible work. I mean, through my thesis, I got to

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 2>work on a personal narrative podcast that I've been pitching

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>around and hopefully have found a home for so through

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a radio podcasting class, I was able to partner with

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>the La County's Commission of Human Relations, and this was

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>a department, if I recall correctly, that was founded during

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 2>civil unrest. During the summer of twenty twenty. We made

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 2>this podcast called La Together Podcast and I got to

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>produce one episode and associate produce a second episode. And

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the one that I got to produce and I got

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>matched was actually about the Dodgers. I interviewed two of

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the descendants of Laloma Bishop baalo Verde, which was the

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>community that existed in what we now know as Chavis

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Ravine and the Dodger Stadium. And these two descendants, they

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>are the grandchildren and of the folks that were displaced

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>when the Dodgers and the city of La displaced an

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>entire community. And so I got to work on that,

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and then I also got to work on another episode

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 2>where a mother was interviewing her trans daughter and her

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 2>daughter was nine years old roughly, she's probably older, she's

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 2>definitely older.

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>That was I think really exciting because I got to

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like be a producer for a podcast that wasn't ours,

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>and I got to learn from an incredible incredible podcast

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>radio person which is Willa Seidenberg, and she was one

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>of my mentors when I was at Annenberg and she's

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 2>now retired. But yeah, I just had like an incredible faculty.

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I had an incredible cohort. It was very much a

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>very special time, very quick, remember it fondly and it

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>helped me then, you know create I feel like with

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you and with Michael Dura, Senora sext and you can tell.

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Like that making that podcast was the most streamlined on

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>our end. I think because of the systems that you

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>put in place, like directly after receiving your degree.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, yes, learn your craft, learn your craft and

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 2>keep your job for as long as possible. Absolutely, and

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>always hire an attorney.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Always, always ask a friend who has an attorney for

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>recommendation for a good attorney. And I think, well, I

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like we've had like a lovely chat.

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Chat it for a long time.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>We've covered a lot.

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk to the rest of the weegain.

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think we've did if we've used a follow our words.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for listening to another episode of Look

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 2>at Our Radio. Let us know what you think of

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>This episode is structured but it's still chatty.

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