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Speaker 1: Last time on Loca to Our Radio, we interviewed Latin
Speaker 1: Negra about her book about her work and sex education,
Speaker 1: and about how important sex education is for LATINX communities.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and give that episode a listen, leave us
Speaker 1: a review, share with a friend.
Speaker 2: We're so excited to be in conversation today with each other.
Speaker 2: We recently put out a survey to our listeners, and overwhelmingly,
Speaker 2: the feedback is that y'all want more episodes of just
Speaker 2: Mala and I chatting. You said that you appreciate the interviews,
Speaker 2: you love the interviews, but you also want a little
Speaker 2: more of just us. So today we're doing just that.
Speaker 1: I'm flattered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for not being sick of us just yet.
Speaker 2: They love us, They love us, Thank God, they love
Speaker 2: what we have. Yes, we do have a special something
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: We have a chemistry we do.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And to get us started, let's talk about our climax
Speaker 2: and cry of the week. Mala, how did you climax
Speaker 2: this past week?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, there's just so much going on
Speaker 1: to be happy about. My pets are thriving. I'll just
Speaker 1: say that generally pop us in my new pet who
Speaker 1: I can't say much about it this time.
Speaker 2: Mala loves to give a teaser. She loves to like
Speaker 2: give the people a little something, but then won't actually
Speaker 2: like say what it is.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course, you know, like keep them coming back.
Speaker 2: Listen to any episode of the podcast and you'll see
Speaker 2: that's a recurring theme.
Speaker 1: I'd love to tell you, but I just can't tell you,
Speaker 1: So you can just guess. You can fill in the blanks,
Speaker 1: use your imagination. Pets are thriving, families thriving. My spring
Speaker 1: break was spectacular. Also, can't really talk too much about
Speaker 1: where we went because we're trying to protect its integrity.
Speaker 1: And they also you understand because you went to the
Speaker 1: same place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mala doesn't want to gentrify this part of Mahinkling
Speaker 2: just yet.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, not just yet, So we're being
Speaker 1: tight lipped about this absolute paradise we spent a few
Speaker 1: days in. So I would say that was my climax,
Speaker 1: was my spring break. School's going well, midterms that's a
Speaker 1: climax of sorts, you know, yeah, yeah, and then cry.
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted because of all of the above things that
Speaker 1: also make me so happy. I'm producing a documentary and
Speaker 1: we're coming to the end of our production. We like
Speaker 1: as of this recording, have our final pickup weekend coming
Speaker 1: up to film our final scenes and then we're deep
Speaker 1: into post production. But I got brought on to another
Speaker 1: project to produce a virtual thesis. So we had our
Speaker 1: first meeting this morning, like our first with me as
Speaker 1: a producer. I'm joining the team, so my first production
Speaker 1: meeting with them. So and then of course we're in
Speaker 1: season ten and so there's just a lot going on
Speaker 1: and I'm very sleepy, but it's great. So if I'm
Speaker 1: crying about anything, it's just that it's an embarrassment of
Speaker 1: riches at the moment.
Speaker 2: Oh that's lovelys, a lovely way to look at it.
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to be super positive, silver linings all
Speaker 1: the way around.
Speaker 2: That's that's a really positive way to look at life.
Speaker 1: And how about you, Yosa, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Let's see how did I climax this week? I'm going
Speaker 2: to borrow from you And this is now a couple
Speaker 2: weeks old for me, but I'm still kind of relishing
Speaker 2: it in it is that Atahen, my baby, my Pomeranian,
Speaker 2: he turned ten years old. Amazing, he turned ten on
Speaker 2: March sixth, and I had originally planned a birthday, little
Speaker 2: birthday party for him. I invited my friends to come
Speaker 2: over and bring all my friends with dogs and just
Speaker 2: kind of just hang out. Let's dog's play, we can
Speaker 2: have some mimosas. And things did not go as planned
Speaker 2: and I had to cancel and it was a whole thing,
Speaker 2: and I tried rescheduling, and it just I've shared now
Speaker 2: kind of on social media, but one of our family dogs, Oliver,
Speaker 2: passed away, and so it just felt like I didn't
Speaker 2: want to see all the dogs in the backyard without him.
Speaker 2: And so but I still really want to celebrate that
Speaker 2: Heen's birthday.
Speaker 1: This is so.
Speaker 2: Millennial of me, so latin a dog mom of me.
Speaker 2: But I still want to have a little something for
Speaker 2: him because ta Heen. If you follow me on social media,
Speaker 2: you know that that Heen loves to pose. If you
Speaker 2: try to take a photo of him, he will open
Speaker 2: his little mouth and give his little dog smile, and
Speaker 2: it's just one of my favorite things in the world.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things about him. And so
Speaker 2: I still have this idea to take him just let's
Speaker 2: just have a little day. He and I so I'm
Speaker 2: planning that this week he's going to get groomed. I'm
Speaker 2: going to take him to a little dog bakery, have
Speaker 2: his little photo taken. E Yah, just to commemorate the
Speaker 2: tenth birthday, because it feels like such a milestone, because
Speaker 2: it is these little dogs are so special and so sweet,
Speaker 2: and he has been like my milestone baby. Like he
Speaker 2: was with me when I was a senior in college
Speaker 2: at UCSB, and I have my photo with him when
Speaker 2: I graduated in my cap and gown. He was at
Speaker 2: my wedding. I wanted to make sure that he was
Speaker 2: in the photos, and so he was there for just
Speaker 2: before the reception, before the wedding, actually he was just
Speaker 2: there for photos, and then in my cap and gown
Speaker 2: for when I got my masters, and so he's been,
Speaker 2: you know, in all my photos for all of my
Speaker 2: milestones these past ten years. So for that alone, it
Speaker 2: just feels so special. So that's definitely I have so
Speaker 2: much gratitude for just that little little dog, the little
Speaker 2: baby in my life, especially because we've gone through so
Speaker 2: much loss with our pets. In the last three years.
Speaker 2: We lost our family cat he was fifteen. Tragically lost Gusco,
Speaker 2: who was only three and then recently Oliver. So it
Speaker 2: just with that silver lining, like there's so much loss,
Speaker 2: but there's also so much life and wanting to just
Speaker 2: celebrate his little milestone, you know, is how I'm feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's really a celebration also of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a way, and all the things that he's walked
Speaker 1: alongside you, absolutely wherever you've gone, yes, which is a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. I definitely like think of him as
Speaker 2: my little compagno when I think of him more than
Speaker 2: a dog, but a little companion of the last ten years.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my climax of the week. And then
Speaker 2: my cry. I've shed lots of tears, especially today in
Speaker 2: our before we got to the studio. Without getting too
Speaker 2: much into the weeds, it's really hard being a caregiver,
Speaker 2: and it's this very weird thing where I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm living the life sometimes of like a middle aged lady.
Speaker 2: But I'm only thirty and thirty. I'm thirty one. But
Speaker 2: you know, I've shared this before, I think, but my
Speaker 2: parents are older. My mom had me later in life
Speaker 2: and my dad is in his eighties, and so there's
Speaker 2: a lot that comes with having older parents, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of care that goes involved that's very invisible,
Speaker 2: I think, because my parents are still very independent. They
Speaker 2: can drive. My dad is even still working part time.
Speaker 2: My mom is retired. But there's just a lot of
Speaker 2: invisible labor that goes into being a caregiver because they're
Speaker 2: still independent, but there's some coordinating that has to happen.
Speaker 2: My mom had a knee replacement last October and that's
Speaker 2: just been a very long and intense recovery and so
Speaker 2: she had another procedure yesterday and it went well, but
Speaker 2: just was her recovery is a little harder than we expected.
Speaker 2: And so with that, like I have the blessing of
Speaker 2: being self employed, but there's some days like today, I
Speaker 2: have to be in the studio. I have to be
Speaker 2: in the student one day of the week. That's a
Speaker 2: little less flexible, and so it's just sometimes challenging. And
Speaker 2: today was one of those days where it was really challenging,
Speaker 2: and I felt like the labor and the managing of
Speaker 2: everything was just too much. And I was just crying
Speaker 2: all the way over here because I thought that I
Speaker 2: got something right and I got something wrong, and so
Speaker 2: it just feels like just emotional sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you also get so many things right, Yes, I
Speaker 3: try like a ninety nine point nine accuracy rate. I'm
Speaker 3: like a ninety accurate and so if one thing you know,
Speaker 3: of course, it can feel like the straw.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And I was kind of reflecting on that
Speaker 2: that I have used meltdowns, breakdowns, burnout as kind of
Speaker 2: like my like the boiling point, right, and I'm when
Speaker 2: I was driving over here sobbing, I was thinking like, oh,
Speaker 2: I cannot let things get here, like I have to
Speaker 2: let either set a boundary, make changes, do something differently
Speaker 2: before I get to the meltdown point, because you cannot
Speaker 2: be making changes when you're in the meltdown. You know,
Speaker 2: at that point it's too late. And so like everyone
Speaker 2: talks about like self care before burnout, and it's I
Speaker 2: feel very much in that same realm, like you can't
Speaker 2: be making these changes when you're in the thick of it.
Speaker 2: You have to like make them before you get to
Speaker 2: the meltdown. So that's what I'm dealing with this week.
Speaker 2: And it's going to be okay, it's going to be fine,
Speaker 2: but I'm just a little bit in my feelings today.
Speaker 1: That's very valid friend. You do a lot. Thank you,
Speaker 1: You're amazing. Thank you, You're my hero. Thanks girl, and
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: I love you too.
Speaker 1: And you I think you deserve a nap.
Speaker 2: I do. I do deserve an app later. I will
Speaker 2: take a nap.
Speaker 1: Later after we've finished recording this episode. And that's been
Speaker 1: our climax and cry of the week.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, lookamotives.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back with more of
Speaker 1: our episode.
Speaker 2: Moving into our next segment of oh Ye lookas we
Speaker 2: have a question from one of our favorite longtime listeners, Jackie.
Speaker 2: She asked us this question, which I'm obsessed with. Are
Speaker 2: we teenage thirty year olds or are we teenage senoras.
Speaker 1: You are now listening to Oh yes, oh Lord, Well,
Speaker 1: just technically and realistically we are in our thirties, yes,
Speaker 1: and I think we still sometimes do feel like teenage girls.
Speaker 1: But then, of course, as we've established, we have our
Speaker 1: Senora proclivities, we do hard hardcore. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: by the time I'm in actual Senora, I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm I don't think. I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 1: to still want to feel like a teenage girl.
Speaker 2: You know who knows who.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen when I'm an old lady, But like,
Speaker 1: I have to assume that at some point this feeling
Speaker 1: will wear off.
Speaker 2: Maybe who's to say, Who's to say? There's this video,
Speaker 2: this TikTok that went viral of this Senora. No Sissia
Speaker 2: is Mahicana Argentina or No, I don't remember where the
Speaker 2: video was from. I don't know where I'm getting Aartentina from.
Speaker 2: But there was this senora who was opening up a
Speaker 2: blind box, which are very popular right now, and it
Speaker 2: was a blind box of a la booboo, which is
Speaker 2: this like little creature monster that's adorable, and went super viral.
Speaker 2: I have two of them.
Speaker 1: You taught me about these. I had never did. I
Speaker 1: was a low what what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A la booboo?
Speaker 1: You have to send me a photo. I'm like, is
Speaker 1: it on your purse? Yes? Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2: And the senora was so excited to open up this
Speaker 2: blind box. It seems like the context is that her
Speaker 2: granddaughter or someone in her family gave her this and
Speaker 2: she was so happy and excited and was like, get
Speaker 2: gur she loved it, and that makes me think that
Speaker 2: that little that teenage self is always there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whimsy.
Speaker 2: The whimsy, it's whimsical. It may not be as like
Speaker 2: external as it is now in our thirties when we're Senora's,
Speaker 2: but I feel like internally there's still that piece that
Speaker 2: seed will always be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very sweet, that's very sweet. I do think
Speaker 1: of like, I love the archetypal care free Senora who
Speaker 1: like gardens and is barefoot all the time. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just kind of like does what she wants and dresses
Speaker 1: up funky, you know, like that sense of magic. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I hope to be.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that sounds like that will be
Speaker 2: you in the future. You already have that kind of whimsy.
Speaker 2: You've had your hippie era.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I have to be honest with myself
Speaker 1: that it's not really an era it like is, It's
Speaker 1: just you are.
Speaker 2: It's just part of who it's a part of your identity, it's.
Speaker 1: Part of my personality. So yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: that's in the future. So going back to this question,
Speaker 1: maybe we are just teenage Senora as.
Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, that's true. I wore little heels for the
Speaker 2: first time in a couple of months. Because I've been
Speaker 2: training for the marathon, I was like very much prioritizing
Speaker 2: my feet health and care and like making sure that
Speaker 2: they were always comfortable. And I've been wearing mainly boots
Speaker 2: because of winter with a little heel. But yesterday I
Speaker 2: wore heels and my feet were hurting and I felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: And these were shoes that I wore to our iHeart
Speaker 2: launched dinner, so was not that long ago, and I
Speaker 2: remember loving them and feeling like they were super comfortable.
Speaker 2: And that's when I thought, like, Wow, your thirties come
Speaker 2: at you fast, because these shoes were not uncomfortable at
Speaker 2: one point, but they're kind of uncomfortable now and that
Speaker 2: makes me sad, And so that makes me think, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I am a teenage Senora and not a teenage
Speaker 2: thirty year old, right right.
Speaker 1: Right, No, that's so real. Also, like, can I say,
Speaker 1: not only did you wear those shoes, but the dress
Speaker 1: was so tight? Yes, we could barely walk in the
Speaker 1: barely walk. Yeah, we were like little Barbie dolls with
Speaker 1: little tiny gates.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what we were.
Speaker 1: On top of it, all.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. I mean you can the photos are
Speaker 1: on our Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I could do that now right,
Speaker 2: But at the time I was still twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Those years make a difference. Yes, you also weren't running
Speaker 1: that much back then.
Speaker 2: I wasn't running marathons.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're using your feet for other things
Speaker 1: now I am.
Speaker 2: I am, And my mom is someone who wears her heels.
Speaker 2: When after she had her hip replacement and she was
Speaker 2: in the clear, one of the first things she asked
Speaker 2: for doctor is when can I wear heels again?
Speaker 1: What a battie?
Speaker 2: And he said, I've never been asked that question before.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. He doesn't treat batties.
Speaker 2: No, clear, first time treating a batty, clearly. And yeah,
Speaker 2: she still wears her heels. And sometimes they don't get
Speaker 2: augnad because I'm my lady. Please, we're gonna be doing
Speaker 2: a lot of walking. Please some flats on, But you
Speaker 2: can't keep a batty down.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's like no, it's like that episode
Speaker 1: of Modern Family where Gloria wears her heels to Disney.
Speaker 2: Like exactly, that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: It's that Oh, I love it. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: Have you talked more explicitly about the marathon yet?
Speaker 2: No, I hadn't run it when we were last recording.
Speaker 2: I did hit a PR. I ran the marathon in
Speaker 2: four hours, in forty seven minutes, so I took nine
Speaker 2: minutes off of last year.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's wild.
Speaker 2: I started pretty conservatively, per my coach, so I started
Speaker 2: at like an eleven minute pace and just maintained the
Speaker 2: whole way. And when I reached a mile eighteen, my
Speaker 2: coach was there and she was like, Okay, we can
Speaker 2: stay here and you're still going to hit a PR
Speaker 2: four fifty four And She's like, that's still a PR.
Speaker 2: That's three minutes. And she was like, or we can
Speaker 2: like up it, like how are you feeling? And I
Speaker 2: was like I can do it. And so I like
Speaker 2: just increased my my pace mile by my and I
Speaker 2: was able to hit like sub sub eleven. So my
Speaker 2: average pace overall was ten fifty eight and I got
Speaker 2: to four forty seven, and so that's exciting. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can beat that now, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that because I've just realized, like or
Speaker 2: now having two marathons under my belt. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just so much on the body, and there's just your
Speaker 2: body has its limits and I can challenge it and
Speaker 2: I can train for it, but just how how exhausting
Speaker 2: it is on your body. Like I'm okay maintaining this,
Speaker 2: and let's just let's stay here. Maybe we chase a
Speaker 2: thirty second shaving, like thirty seconds off, you know, but
Speaker 2: like I don't know about shaving like another like nine
Speaker 2: ten minutes off.
Speaker 1: Who knows a lot of time.
Speaker 2: Lot, it's a lot. We'll see. I mean, with more training,
Speaker 2: more time, like you know, you get stronger. So we'll
Speaker 2: see how I feel about it next year. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that was my that wasrace.
Speaker 1: Amazing, sense amazing. I mean that's fast. You ran fast, girl,
Speaker 1: Thanks girl, good, thank you.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, lookomotives, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back with more of our episode. Today.
Speaker 2: We're bringing back an older segment that we haven't really
Speaker 2: done during this network era, and we haven't done in
Speaker 2: a while because I don't know, we just have it.
Speaker 1: We just haven't and I don't know. It's a little incendiary.
Speaker 2: It is a little bit so if you're a longtime listener.
Speaker 2: You might remember this segment called Weird Things White Women Did,
Speaker 2: and it was very much inspired by the fact that
Speaker 2: Mala was working predominantly with white women at this period
Speaker 2: for a period of time, for a period of time,
Speaker 2: and so it inspired the segment so that she could
Speaker 2: kind of talk about her experiences in general terms.
Speaker 1: Right, very general observations.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and so that was one of the reasons.
Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of let the segment go
Speaker 2: in a way because the exposure was not there in
Speaker 2: the same way. But we're bringing it back because we
Speaker 2: heard from you are listeners that you really liked that
Speaker 2: segment and you really wanted it to come back. So
Speaker 2: here we are giving the people what they want.
Speaker 1: Exactly what they want. I mean, I feel like it
Speaker 1: really depends on our environment whether or not we have
Speaker 1: regular contact with white women and white womanhood, and it's
Speaker 1: honestly like hard for us to find unless we're in
Speaker 1: those spaces.
Speaker 2: And we're not really in those spaces.
Speaker 1: No, So what we're going to do today is for
Speaker 1: our listeners who are online and keep up with what's
Speaker 1: going on, you will already have heard about this. So
Speaker 1: for those who have not, this will be news to you.
Speaker 2: This is news to me because when you told me,
Speaker 2: I had no idea what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: So I wish I didn't know about this stuff, but
Speaker 1: like you know, it is what it is. We get
Speaker 1: news how we get news. So for our weird things
Speaker 1: white women did this week, we're talking about something that
Speaker 1: has been going back and forth on TikTok. But Bad
Speaker 1: Baby also known as the catch me Outside girl of
Speaker 1: Doctor Phil Fame, real name Danielle Briugoli. Some of you
Speaker 1: might know her as, like, you know, the person who
Speaker 1: made like millions of dollars on OnlyFans in a very
Speaker 1: short period of time, one of many, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're like raking it in on OnlyFans. Well, Bad Baby
Speaker 1: the aforementioned and Alabama Barker, daughter of Travis Barker, now
Speaker 1: stepdaughter to Courtney Kardashian. So this is Kardashian beef also
Speaker 1: right in that specific way through marriage, right, So, Bad
Speaker 1: Baby and Alabama Barker have been beefing and writing dis
Speaker 1: tracks about each other, and the consensus right now is
Speaker 1: that Bad Baby's winning. She's like written multiple diss tracks.
Speaker 1: And I bring up the Kardashians because Bad Baby brings
Speaker 1: up the Kardashians as a way of dissing Alabama Barker.
Speaker 1: And in one of the music videos, Bad Baby had
Speaker 1: like an actor on the drums, tatted Beanie.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yes, like families are involved.
Speaker 1: Families are very much involved. So she has like a
Speaker 1: fake Travis Barker and her distract music video. So the
Speaker 1: white girls are beefing.
Speaker 2: That scares me because that means we're in a recession.
Speaker 2: Like literally, if the white girls are beefing, they're fighting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we are in a recession. Oh yeah, it's a telltale signs.
Speaker 2: And people have been making observations because I don't think
Speaker 2: formally we're in a recession, like it hasn't been declared
Speaker 2: a recession, but people have been making their observations about
Speaker 2: the things that mean we're in a recession, like lipstick
Speaker 2: sales going up. That's one sign that we're in a
Speaker 2: recession because women start to spend like things like small luxuries,
Speaker 2: affordable luxuries, and during a recessions, lipstick sales increase.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yes, fascinating girls are beefing. We're in a recession.
Speaker 1: The economy's about to tank.
Speaker 2: Crap, that's that's bad that's what that means.
Speaker 1: That's really bad news. So basically we're yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: reading the signs here, you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a science to it.
Speaker 1: Clearly, there's clearly a science to it. I mean, eggs
Speaker 1: are through the roof.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, you know what. You know what I did
Speaker 2: this week? Tell me it felt very dystopian in some ways.
Speaker 2: It felt very eerie of the pandemic, of the early
Speaker 2: days of the pandemic. But I was at the gym.
Speaker 2: So I go to the gym twice a week at
Speaker 2: six am, and so I'm up early those days. And
Speaker 2: my session went a little longer than usual, and it
Speaker 2: went so long that I was like, well, I can
Speaker 2: just kill time for thirty minutes and wait for the
Speaker 2: Trader Joe's to open and go buy ag and clear amount.
Speaker 2: And well it's only one limit you one dozen per person.
Speaker 1: This is this is dystopian in and of itself.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I go to the Trader Joe's. I'm
Speaker 2: parked by seven fifty. I'm just waiting. I start to
Speaker 2: see people. So people are waiting for the trader doors
Speaker 2: to open. They had the same idea I did. And
Speaker 2: I've never I've never at the grocery store that early,
Speaker 2: and so this is new to me. Maybe people always
Speaker 2: do that. And so I'm okay, get my little bags,
Speaker 2: I get my little carrito, I'm waiting. I go inside.
Speaker 2: Everyone immediately goes to the eggs and like there's order.
Speaker 2: People aren't like rushing. There's there's plenty of eggs for
Speaker 2: like everyone that's there at that time, but everyone is
Speaker 2: clearly like going straight to the eggs to fill up
Speaker 2: their car or get just one for their cart. Everyone's
Speaker 2: checking them. And then we get our eggs and we
Speaker 2: go on with our grocery shopping. And that was it.
Speaker 2: And so yes, another example.
Speaker 1: No, this is all bad. That is very bad. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's super dystopian. But I am glad you got your.
Speaker 2: Egg I got my eggs. Yes, yeah, can you believe
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I mean this is like, okay, so not too long ago.
Speaker 1: Well it was a couple months ago now. But my
Speaker 1: boyfriend was like, is anything, like, does anything worry you?
Speaker 1: And I said the first thing that came to mind, honestly,
Speaker 1: was yes, I'm worried that if we experience some type
Speaker 1: of environmental or natural disaster that all of us in
Speaker 1: southern California will run out of water very quickly, and
Speaker 1: that there will be chaos in the streets and it
Speaker 1: will be utter mayhem and we are not going to
Speaker 1: be able to get out of here. And he was
Speaker 1: like what, But I'm like, no, this is what I
Speaker 1: worry about. And then I kid you not. The next
Speaker 1: day the fires.
Speaker 2: Behan oh okay, yes.
Speaker 1: You know, and then everything that comes with that that
Speaker 1: we've seen unfold. Of course, inevitably things like that to
Speaker 1: a small degree happen, you know, and there are issues
Speaker 1: with where do people live, people's stuff, the grocery stores,
Speaker 1: you know, the eggs, all of it. So not to
Speaker 1: be like a conspiracy theorist doomsday prepper, but it's like,
Speaker 1: these are the signs right of collapse.
Speaker 2: Yes, late stage capitalism, that's what we're in, end of empire.
Speaker 2: This is like not, yeah, this has happened before. And
Speaker 2: something you said, Mala a couple of years ago, I
Speaker 2: actually think about when I start to get a little
Speaker 2: anxious stressed about the state of the world, and Mala
Speaker 2: on an episode I couldn't tell you which one, but
Speaker 2: she said something like, I'm sure people forty years ago,
Speaker 2: fifty years ago, one hundred years ago felt like it
Speaker 2: was the end of times, and they persevered and they
Speaker 2: had to keep going, and they made their art and
Speaker 2: they had to live their lives. As we descend into fascism,
Speaker 2: that is something that I'm thinking about, that we got
Speaker 2: to be ready, we got to stay ready, but the
Speaker 2: art continues. Oh yes, So I'm kind of looking back
Speaker 2: at historical times and looking back at the writing I've
Speaker 2: actually believe it or not, because you know, I am
Speaker 2: a recovering Catholic, but I have been very interested in
Speaker 2: revisiting the work of Bishop Archbishop Oscar Rometo because he
Speaker 2: was a liberation theologist, and I feel like that in
Speaker 2: a way, I am like, am I going to become
Speaker 2: a Catholic again out of spite? That's kind of how
Speaker 2: I've been feeling lately. Not that I'm going to go
Speaker 2: rejoin the church or anything, but more so like leaning
Speaker 2: on liberation theology and thinking about how like Christian nationalism
Speaker 2: is running our country right now, and then how do
Speaker 2: we combat it? And I feel like there is something
Speaker 2: there in revisiting the work of Archbishop.
Speaker 3: Oscar Rometos, who is also a saint, who is also
Speaker 3: a saint, who is a Saint In.
Speaker 1: I think that's really fascinating. You know, throughout history, I
Speaker 1: think that there have been a lot of religious people
Speaker 1: from different denominations who have contributed greatly to like, yeah,
Speaker 1: liberal politics. I mean Martin Luther King of course is
Speaker 1: an example. We can even think of someone like Mother Teresa,
Speaker 1: and of course there are other examples, And so I
Speaker 1: think that there's something to be said about, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like revisiting those works from these minds, yes, because other
Speaker 1: you know, I think obviously, like like a leftist politic
Speaker 1: is more likely to maybe want to study the works
Speaker 1: of like folks who are maybe more gorilla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh absolutely, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: But why limit your sources?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think my my my initial, my gut
Speaker 2: is always like revisit Audrey Lord, sure of course, right,
Speaker 2: revisiting the works of like W. Du Bois, Paulo Frey's
Speaker 2: Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Like, there's all those works that
Speaker 2: like my gut, and my instinct is like revisit those
Speaker 2: and learn, let's learn from it in a different way
Speaker 2: this time, right, Because anytime you revisit something, you're learning
Speaker 2: it in a new way or you're seeing it with
Speaker 2: new eyes. But there's also like, okay, wait, let me
Speaker 2: actually go back to liberation theology and let me let
Speaker 2: me see what I can learn from there at this
Speaker 2: point in time, because I feel like there's there's just
Speaker 2: something calling me to it, and I'm like, God, I'm
Speaker 2: going to become a Catholic?
Speaker 1: Got a spite? Is Jesus sure? Literally like literally Jesus Lord. Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It makes me think of our listeners as well, to
Speaker 1: go back and listen to our episodes with Prisca who
Speaker 1: literally studied theology yes, and is very much liberation minded
Speaker 1: in her work and has has herself found a way
Speaker 1: to fuse those things through study and writing. So there's
Speaker 1: I think, and I say that to say there's some
Speaker 1: blueprint for this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yes, And I think it's like.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tbd, I'll let you know, Yeah, my journey.
Speaker 1: I love that Marcella Argueo has an Oscar Romero tattoo
Speaker 1: she does on her own. She does that could be
Speaker 1: someone interested on like facilitating your your study group around this.
Speaker 2: Someone interesting to be in conversation with. Yes, yes, there's
Speaker 2: there's a lot. There's a lot, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the powers that be want us to be isolated. They
Speaker 2: want us to be afraid, they want us to put
Speaker 2: our heads down, they want us to feel overwhelmed. And
Speaker 2: so this is a very good time to invest in
Speaker 2: your community and build new community as well.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: In this episode is very much inspired by some of
Speaker 2: the feedback that we got from our listeners recently, and
Speaker 2: one listener in particular asked us to kind of just
Speaker 2: nerd out on some of the things that we've studied
Speaker 2: on scholarly things, on school things. And so I've been
Speaker 2: out of school now for almost two years.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it either, And so we kind of
Speaker 2: just wanted to spend some time nerding out on the
Speaker 2: degrees that we have and also are currently in pursuit of.
Speaker 1: For those maybe just picking up here, I started an
Speaker 1: MFA program, which stands for Masters of Fine Arts at
Speaker 1: USC at the School of Cinematic Arts, and the degree
Speaker 1: is in Film and Television Production. So I'm in my
Speaker 1: third semester, so I'm, you know, second year of a
Speaker 1: three year program and it's a production degree. So we
Speaker 1: make movies. We're not reading books, right, We're not in
Speaker 1: a lab. We are on set. We do have classroom
Speaker 1: instructional hours during the week and then on the weekends
Speaker 1: we're on set and we're filming, and it's been so
Speaker 1: fun and I've learned so much. And this year I've
Speaker 1: really gotten in my producer bag and I've just been
Speaker 1: like recommended to different crews to produce films student films,
Speaker 1: which is really exciting because I think in a production degree,
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do, is you want to
Speaker 1: work on as many movies as possible. So so my
Speaker 1: nerd out right now is all in the weeds of
Speaker 1: like producing and creative producing. And right now I'm producing
Speaker 1: a documentary called All of Us Girls, which is about
Speaker 1: a sexual assault amongst a group of Chinese women and
Speaker 1: the survivors in the documentary telling their stories and talking
Speaker 1: about the cultural aspects of processing their trauma as East
Speaker 1: Asian women. And that's been a really cool production to
Speaker 1: be on. I'm the only non Mandarin speaker and I
Speaker 1: am learning a lot is all the way around every
Speaker 1: aspect of this production. So it's been a beautiful experience.
Speaker 1: And this summer I'll also be producing I sort of
Speaker 1: describe this at the top of this episode, but a
Speaker 1: virtual thesis, so it's a mix of live action and
Speaker 1: VR and animation, and we're probably going to use like
Speaker 1: unreal engine and the LED wall and all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: So that's going to be a very new field and
Speaker 1: area for me because I've never done anything like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just excited to learn. And as you know,
Speaker 1: look at that our productions, we are a multimedia production house.
Speaker 1: So I think part of the reason I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to film school was so that we can start
Speaker 1: like branching out into these other types of media and
Speaker 1: make all kinds of work absolutely, whether it's TV shows
Speaker 1: or movies or documentaries or maybe something animated or a game,
Speaker 1: what have you. So yeah, I'm just like soaking it
Speaker 1: all in and saying yes to everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we have been, you know, thinking, you and
Speaker 2: I about lots of different film and television projects, you know,
Speaker 2: like aspirational ones, and we've brainstormed a lot along the
Speaker 2: way along in many years, even before you were you
Speaker 2: got this degree. So it makes so much sense. So
Speaker 2: given now that you're more trained, you're formalized, you're learning,
Speaker 2: how would you say things differ from like when we
Speaker 2: were making things too for Indy Rasquatch It like back
Speaker 2: in the day very gorilla style filmmaking, where we were
Speaker 2: like just randomly shooting places. And now you've learned the
Speaker 2: formal process of applying for permits and like the way
Speaker 2: to do things. So how would you compare those experiences
Speaker 2: and maybe what you've learned.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's so much. I want to start by saying
Speaker 1: that I'm actually so impressed by what we were able
Speaker 1: to make without having any training whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And what did what have we made?
Speaker 1: Oh, we've made a few things. So first of all,
Speaker 1: good our YouTube channel. We have a look at thought
Speaker 1: our productions YouTube channel subscribe. We have a little over
Speaker 1: a thousand subscribers, but we'd always love more. We don't
Speaker 1: constantly feed the YouTube, but we have some like evergreen
Speaker 1: work on the YouTube, one of which is our first
Speaker 1: short film. It's about an eight minute film called Lokiita's Anonymous.
Speaker 1: And this film actually has a very high production value.
Speaker 1: It looks beautiful, beautifully styled. I'm like receiving this training
Speaker 1: at school. But then I look back at something like
Speaker 1: Loki Is Anonymous, and what it tells me is that
Speaker 1: we were able to assemble such a talented team just
Speaker 1: from our small like group of creative friends, because it
Speaker 1: was all like friends who worked on it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. Chava was our director essentially and also helped
Speaker 1: with like DP work, but our other friend Ernie was
Speaker 1: actually on camera, and then Michelle Morrow was doing our
Speaker 1: sound work. Javi Mendoza helped us take the idea and
Speaker 1: put a script together, and then Robert was doing our
Speaker 1: hair and makeup. We produced it and got like wardrobe
Speaker 1: taken care of and donations as far as like jewelry,
Speaker 1: Belladonna donated like hair clips GLA crew. Yeah. The location
Speaker 1: came through your nail contact.
Speaker 2: Yes, Valerie from now formally wit your Beauty Collective but
Speaker 2: now Beauty Collective Lab still in Wittier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Shava and Michelle edited the film. We
Speaker 1: used music from an artist that I've known for a
Speaker 1: few years. It's sell Choko, and it just like came
Speaker 1: together and is like honestly so cute and so well done.
Speaker 1: What it tells me is that we always had the
Speaker 1: ability and the vision so check that out on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and the talent within our community. But now it's learning
Speaker 1: how to do it professionally, right, so we can a
Speaker 1: get paid to do this work, like someone could hire
Speaker 1: us and we can do it or B we can
Speaker 1: raise the funds and really know how to appropriately allocate
Speaker 1: them to make the best possible version of our vision,
Speaker 1: right and we know who to call, you know, but
Speaker 1: we can like do everything you know industry standard.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's also I think for me about like meeting
Speaker 1: new people and even though it's USC and it's local,
Speaker 1: Like my cohort, I'm one of two Latinos and in
Speaker 1: the program it's very very few Latinos and almost like
Speaker 1: no one who's local. There's like a couple sprinkled throughout
Speaker 1: the semesters, but like local folks and my cohort it's
Speaker 1: me and one other student from Lakenata, you know. Everybody
Speaker 1: else is from out of state or international, which is
Speaker 1: actually really cool because it really forces me to network
Speaker 1: way outside of my community and to work with people
Speaker 1: way outside of my community and our immediate creative circle,
Speaker 1: which is good because it's like there's new ideas, new themes,
Speaker 1: new topics, new point of view, and learning to work
Speaker 1: with different types of people and their different styles, you know,
Speaker 1: and like being part of a team to like talk
Speaker 1: about a subject matter that is so outside of me
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But like just contributing to
Speaker 1: the greater project. Yeah, you know, so those have all
Speaker 1: been very valuable as well well. Is like the hard skills,
Speaker 1: like learning how to use the editing software, learning how
Speaker 1: to use the equipment, learning how to set up a
Speaker 1: c stand and operate a camera and do like diit
Speaker 1: and work with hard drives and you know, the SD cards.
Speaker 1: Like it's all been great. So I hope to direct
Speaker 1: some stuff in the future. Like Yosa mentioned, we have ideas,
Speaker 1: and I came into school with some ideas of things
Speaker 1: that I would love to pitch and get made while
Speaker 1: I'm there, Yeah, and while I can crew up and
Speaker 1: like have university support and just this like this really
Speaker 1: dense collection of students in one place who are all
Speaker 1: there just to make stuff. Like that's what they're there for.
Speaker 1: And that's exciting.
Speaker 2: That's exciting. It is a really, I think wonderful place
Speaker 2: to be when you're a student and that's and you
Speaker 2: get to create and you get to like learn and
Speaker 2: do it together. I love being a student. I love
Speaker 2: being like and not just a student of life obviously,
Speaker 2: you but like act like being enrolled in something that
Speaker 2: my brain just like needs that kind of like structure,
Speaker 2: and so I love that. I love that you're doing that.
Speaker 2: I love that you're learning and you're definitely applying it here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: look at our productions.
Speaker 1: And there's more to come. There's always more to come,
Speaker 1: always more to come. But yeah, check out some of
Speaker 1: our older work on our YouTube channel, because every season
Speaker 1: we've done like a video short, and we worked with
Speaker 1: a lot of the same people over and over again.
Speaker 1: And you'll see that even though it was Indian not
Speaker 1: quote professional, that it is very professional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was professional because we were making it in
Speaker 2: a professional way and if we had professional energy behind it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So check us out. Look at that our
Speaker 1: productions on YouTube, and then of course you know, follow us,
Speaker 1: look at Underscore Radio on all the other social media platforms. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: And how about you, dude, let's talk about nerding out.
Speaker 1: So I nerded out on my film and TV stuff,
Speaker 1: on my school stuff. Let's nerd out on specialized journalism.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I god, it feels like in so many
Speaker 2: ways so long ago and in other ways not that
Speaker 2: long ago, because logistically it wasn't that long ago. But
Speaker 2: I applied for two programs back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Just to take it back. Let's see, I was working
Speaker 2: in residential care coming out of the pandemic, and I
Speaker 2: knew I wanted. I really appreciated the stability of that job.
Speaker 2: At that point, I had been there for almost five years,
Speaker 2: and it helped me grow Lokatra because it was a
Speaker 2: strict nine to five. I had a very stable paycheck,
Speaker 2: I had very good healthcare, and it was close to home.
Speaker 2: And I learned so much from my boss at that time.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Alicia. She was an incredible business boss lady,
Speaker 2: and I learned so much from her without even realizing
Speaker 2: I was learning about running a business. But I would
Speaker 2: like help her run payroll for like her side business.
Speaker 2: I would help her do a lot of like the
Speaker 2: entrepreneurial stuff that she was doing as a very small
Speaker 2: business owner, but also was working she was working for
Speaker 2: like a bigger corporation. So I got to see both.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize at the time that I was
Speaker 2: learning how to run a business and how to run
Speaker 2: books and how to have a good accountant and all
Speaker 2: those things that now I see, Oh yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: picked a lot of that up from her, and so
Speaker 2: I'm very appreciative and grateful for who she was in
Speaker 2: my life and we're still in contact now, but at
Speaker 2: that time I felt like things with the podcast were
Speaker 2: still indie and things were challenging, and I was feeling like, Okay,
Speaker 2: my job is not fulfilling anymore. I'm ready to grow,
Speaker 2: and so I just started up one applying to jobs
Speaker 2: and two applying to grad school. So I at the
Speaker 2: time was in between like a public health program or
Speaker 2: a journalism program. And it was actually an event that
Speaker 2: we did with HBO Max where we got to interview
Speaker 2: Idro Rodriguez and we got to watch her documentary before
Speaker 2: it came out on HBO Max. And there's something in
Speaker 2: the documentary where she says that her grandmother gave her
Speaker 2: this advice where she or her grandmother tells her that,
Speaker 2: you know, to kind of go all in for stand
Speaker 2: up for comedy, because her grandmother says something along the
Speaker 2: lines and I'm this is just you know, one up
Speaker 2: to my memory. She says something like, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're kind of if you're planning for if you have
Speaker 2: a Plan B, you're planning to fail. You're planning for
Speaker 2: your planning to not work out. And I very much
Speaker 2: was feeling like at the time, the public health degree
Speaker 2: was like very practical. It's like, yes, I'm very passionate
Speaker 2: about public health, and yes we need more latinas in
Speaker 2: public health. But if I'm applying for a master's in
Speaker 2: that I'm spending all this money on it, then I'm
Speaker 2: doing that with the intention of like, look, I thought,
Speaker 2: I'm not branching out into what it can be. And
Speaker 2: so hearing that advice made me go all in and
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, we're gonna do straight journalism. I'm going
Speaker 2: to apply to Columbia. I'm going to apply to US.
Speaker 2: And when I applied to Columbia, I sat Mala down
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, I'm going to apply to
Speaker 2: grad school, and I need you to know that I'm
Speaker 2: still very invested in what we're doing and this is
Speaker 2: just going to make it better and if I go
Speaker 2: to New York, We're gonna make it work. And I
Speaker 2: would like just let her know, like I'm still invested
Speaker 2: in this. And so I applied to both programs. I
Speaker 2: got into both programs, did a lot of soul searching,
Speaker 2: went through it. I really wanted to go to New York.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to go to Columbia when I got
Speaker 2: and I was like, you have to go, yeah, and
Speaker 2: Mala was like, I will move with you. You have
Speaker 2: to go to multiple people offered to move with me.
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you.
Speaker 1: The support.
Speaker 2: The support was there, but you know, just everything going
Speaker 2: on in my life at the time. I also got
Speaker 2: more money from USC, and I just didn't really have
Speaker 2: the budget to like move cross country. Like it was
Speaker 2: gonna take a lot of like you know, additional money
Speaker 2: to like move across the country. Tree established myself in
Speaker 2: New York and it was an eleven month program at
Speaker 2: Columbia and also at USC, and I just felt like
Speaker 2: I had to keep my job. This was pre network
Speaker 2: and so I was like, I can't be working East
Speaker 2: coast hours with a West coast company and it was
Speaker 2: just going to be too much for me. And so
Speaker 2: after weighing everything out, I decided to stay local. Annenberg
Speaker 2: is still an incredible program. USC has gone through a
Speaker 2: lot over the last couple of years, and I think
Speaker 2: has really like fumbled a lot of things publicly internally,
Speaker 2: but Annenberg for me, has always been like a really
Speaker 2: bright spot in this very private white institution. And so
Speaker 2: I think that that was one of the reasons that
Speaker 2: I decided, like I'm going to do Annenberg and I did,
Speaker 2: and it was eleven months and it was super intense.
Speaker 2: I wish that I could have done a two year program,
Speaker 2: but it One of the reasons this program is eleven
Speaker 2: months is that it's hard to ask a working journalist
Speaker 2: to be a full time student for two years. And
Speaker 2: so while even though I was working, ideally, you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to be working. Everybody tells you, all the instructors
Speaker 2: tell you do not work. And that's crazy, Like it's
Speaker 2: wild to tell, like a first gen student, you can't
Speaker 2: you can't work, you can't have a job, because that's
Speaker 2: a lot of privilege. It's a lot to ask someone
Speaker 2: like not to have a second income.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they also said that to us
Speaker 1: before last semester. Specifically, they were like, if you have
Speaker 1: a job or a hobby, quit, Like that is unhinged
Speaker 1: to tell anybody. But if it wasn't for the podcasting,
Speaker 1: I don't know how a full time job, yeah, would
Speaker 1: like allow for school at all, Like their flexibility is
Speaker 1: not there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I did. I did work, like for a job,
Speaker 2: Like I had a job, I had a job, an
Speaker 2: amazing job, and I still love the people that work there.
Speaker 2: And so I held that job for my summer session
Speaker 2: and fall semester, so six seven months, and they were
Speaker 2: very flexible with me. I was working on campus constantly
Speaker 2: and it was a remote job, so it had that flexibility.
Speaker 2: And I was, you know, running the podcast. We had
Speaker 2: just signed with the network, So all of those pieces
Speaker 2: made it feel like the blink of an eye. Not
Speaker 2: only was the program really fast, but I was working
Speaker 2: a job running the podcast, so it.
Speaker 1: Just felt it was a lot.
Speaker 2: So I didn't really get to soak up in a
Speaker 2: soak up a lot of the things that I think
Speaker 2: my peers got to do. But that's part of it.
Speaker 2: That's part of being like an adult in a grad program.
Speaker 2: Like it's not undergrad, it's really not. And I think
Speaker 2: there's that Maybe maybe I went in kind of hoping
Speaker 2: that I would be able to do everything, but you can't.
Speaker 2: Everyone has limitations. But for what I got to do,
Speaker 2: I feel like I really got to make some really
Speaker 2: incredible work. I mean, through my thesis, I got to
Speaker 2: work on a personal narrative podcast that I've been pitching
Speaker 2: around and hopefully have found a home for so through
Speaker 2: a radio podcasting class, I was able to partner with
Speaker 2: the La County's Commission of Human Relations, and this was
Speaker 2: a department, if I recall correctly, that was founded during
Speaker 2: civil unrest. During the summer of twenty twenty. We made
Speaker 2: this podcast called La Together Podcast and I got to
Speaker 2: produce one episode and associate produce a second episode. And
Speaker 2: the one that I got to produce and I got
Speaker 2: matched was actually about the Dodgers. I interviewed two of
Speaker 2: the descendants of Laloma Bishop baalo Verde, which was the
Speaker 2: community that existed in what we now know as Chavis
Speaker 2: Ravine and the Dodger Stadium. And these two descendants, they
Speaker 2: are the grandchildren and of the folks that were displaced
Speaker 2: when the Dodgers and the city of La displaced an
Speaker 2: entire community. And so I got to work on that,
Speaker 2: and then I also got to work on another episode
Speaker 2: where a mother was interviewing her trans daughter and her
Speaker 2: daughter was nine years old roughly, she's probably older, she's
Speaker 2: definitely older.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: That was I think really exciting because I got to
Speaker 2: like be a producer for a podcast that wasn't ours,
Speaker 2: and I got to learn from an incredible incredible podcast
Speaker 2: radio person which is Willa Seidenberg, and she was one
Speaker 2: of my mentors when I was at Annenberg and she's
Speaker 2: now retired. But yeah, I just had like an incredible faculty.
Speaker 2: I had an incredible cohort. It was very much a
Speaker 2: very special time, very quick, remember it fondly and it
Speaker 2: helped me then, you know create I feel like with
Speaker 2: you and with Michael Dura, Senora sext and you can tell.
Speaker 1: Like that making that podcast was the most streamlined on
Speaker 1: our end. I think because of the systems that you
Speaker 1: put in place, like directly after receiving your degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, learn your craft, learn your craft and
Speaker 2: keep your job for as long as possible. Absolutely, and
Speaker 2: always hire an attorney.
Speaker 1: Always, always ask a friend who has an attorney for
Speaker 1: recommendation for a good attorney. And I think, well, I
Speaker 1: feel like we've had like a lovely chat.
Speaker 2: Chat it for a long time.
Speaker 1: We've covered a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to the rest of the weegain.
Speaker 1: I think we've did if we've used a follow our words.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for listening to another episode of Look
Speaker 2: at Our Radio. Let us know what you think of
Speaker 2: This episode is structured but it's still chatty.
Speaker 1: It's Mola and I.
Speaker 2: We're in conversation with each other, so let us know.
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