Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: It was quite striking to see several Democratic governors and
Speaker 3: lawmakers say today that while they understand a father's concern
Speaker 3: for his son, the president tarnished his legacy with the
Speaker 3: interests of his family ahead of the country. They're also
Speaker 3: worried it could embolden Trump to abuse the same clemency
Speaker 3: powers once he takes office.
Speaker 4: I've always thought it was dumb, but as I get older,
Speaker 4: certainly the whole tarnished legacy thing whatever, that's not the problem.
Speaker 4: The problem for these Democrats is they were out there
Speaker 4: on the campaign trail talking about the difference between our
Speaker 4: party and their party is we believe in the justice
Speaker 4: system and we accept the results.
Speaker 2: Oh we don't accept results.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, not when it harms us, not when its right.
Speaker 5: Because it did harm the party, It harmed everything, harmed
Speaker 5: the country, harmed the rule of law, certainly harmed the
Speaker 5: Democratic Party in all their future arguments.
Speaker 2: But it helped the Biden family.
Speaker 5: And as we've made clear, and others will comment on
Speaker 5: in this segment. It was it was far from just
Speaker 5: commuting a sentence or or letting the boy off the
Speaker 5: hook without fully feeling the weight of the consequences of
Speaker 5: his actions. It is this bizarre Nixon on steroids, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: anything he did for eleven years, he can't get prosecuted
Speaker 5: for anything, Like what, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: I mean it is way beyond the page.
Speaker 4: Well, like John Stewart said on The Daily Show, the
Speaker 4: bizarrely specific eleven years, what's that all about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I can. I've got a pretty damn good idea.
Speaker 5: The year he signed on with Barisma and started traveling
Speaker 5: the world on Air Force too, cutting deals and doing
Speaker 5: crack uh with his dad and then siphoning ten percent
Speaker 5: of the Big Guy to Uncle Jimmy.
Speaker 2: And everybody else. It's just it's it's so obvious. Please.
Speaker 5: As I said earlier, walks like a duck, quacks like
Speaker 5: a duck, lays duck eggs that hatch into ducks. It's
Speaker 5: DNA is beginning examined. It is duck DNA. And as
Speaker 5: you said, it wrote a memoir. I am a duck.
Speaker 5: My life is a duck.
Speaker 2: Quack quack quack, what you're about to hear is that
Speaker 2: it's a duck back. Thank you, bro.
Speaker 5: Is an excerpt from nine minutes of this which I
Speaker 5: kept thinking, all right, I got to turn this off.
Speaker 2: But just who aired nine minutes of it? It's the internet?
Speaker 5: The internet did. The Internet has endless time YouTube. You
Speaker 5: want to watch two minutes, fine, you want to watch
Speaker 5: all of it? Fine, Next we got duck.
Speaker 2: Videos for you.
Speaker 5: Anyway, this is well, it's self evident what it is.
Speaker 2: Michael, unleash it and we'll see how much we enjoy this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: shaid a bye. By the jury decision, I will do
Speaker 2: that and I will.
Speaker 6: Not part letting the world know that he will not
Speaker 6: wipe away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.
Speaker 1: Was asked directly, and he has said he wouldn't pardon
Speaker 1: his son if he gets convicted.
Speaker 5: Let's see what happens if he loves Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 5: but he said it.
Speaker 2: He's going to get pardoned by his dad. There's no
Speaker 2: question about that. The President has ruled out pardoning his son.
Speaker 6: Major commitment from the President accepting the outcome of the
Speaker 6: trial and also pledging not to pardon his son.
Speaker 1: But the challenge for him is really to continue to
Speaker 1: live up to his values when it was really personal,
Speaker 1: and he did that.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 6: It seems like a pretty normal, straightforward answer, but it
Speaker 6: takes new weight when we see what Trump is saying
Speaker 6: about the outcome of his trial. We're hearing from the
Speaker 6: Republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdicture in
Speaker 6: New York.
Speaker 7: The contrast is profound to sit there and say, well,
Speaker 7: I'm not going to intervene in the legal process, and
Speaker 7: I wouldn't pardon my son one side, Democrats and Joe
Speaker 7: Biden protecting the justice system, and on the other Plicans
Speaker 7: and Trump protecting Trump.
Speaker 1: Our current president of the United States has so much
Speaker 1: respect for the law that he has said he would
Speaker 1: not pardon his son. I mean, what you know, again,
Speaker 1: it's all about the contrast.
Speaker 8: President Biden saying I will respect whatever this jury decides,
Speaker 8: versus Donald Trump after he was convicted on thirty four counts,
Speaker 8: saying the entire system is rigged against him.
Speaker 4: I need a cup of coffee. That was too rich,
Speaker 4: that dessert was too rich. I need a quick cup
Speaker 4: of coffee to cut through that, because it's gushing up
Speaker 4: my mouth and so much of the.
Speaker 5: Coverage yesterday the day before was couched in the hole
Speaker 5: comparing it to Trump or Trump says or what about Trump? Well,
Speaker 5: there is a very very good reason CNN is dying,
Speaker 5: MSNBC is dying, and they all may soon go away
Speaker 5: or become shelves of the former selves.
Speaker 2: And the alphabet networks are heading in the same direction.
Speaker 5: Some of it is just the winds of change, but
Speaker 5: we all feel the wins have change. The question is
Speaker 5: do you adjust your sales, do you up your game?
Speaker 5: Do you find a way to get better or at
Speaker 5: least survive? And the answer for the alphabet networks and
Speaker 5: especially the cable networks is no, absolutely not. They've doubled
Speaker 5: down on the worst of their tendencies.
Speaker 2: Well know, I.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't be enjoying this so much, because there's there's a
Speaker 4: decent chance that these people actually believed that their president
Speaker 4: was going to do that, he was going to abide
Speaker 4: by the Justice Department and followed the.
Speaker 2: Effort encountered Joe Biden before.
Speaker 5: Seriously, the guy's a congenital liar, not a Joe.
Speaker 4: I gotta admit I was shocked the first time, or
Speaker 4: the most declarative time, because there's one time with David
Speaker 4: Muir on ABC where he said it more specifically. David
Speaker 4: Muir asked, have you made a decision? You've thought about it?
Speaker 4: Have you thought about it? Made decision? I have thought
Speaker 4: about it, and I've made a decision I will not
Speaker 4: pardon my son. I thought that one was so like
Speaker 4: declare arrative that left no none of that lawyerly wiggle
Speaker 4: room ish anything, And I actually thought, Wow, that is
Speaker 4: a heck of a thing. He's gonna let his son
Speaker 4: go to prison just to show that, you know, there
Speaker 4: are consequences.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, NBC's reporting yesterday was all along. They were planning.
Speaker 4: It was just they made the decision to go out
Speaker 4: and claim they would pardon or not pardon them.
Speaker 2: And then they would just figure out how to handle
Speaker 2: it behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: Wow okay, Yeah, yeah, we just hold off the heat
Speaker 5: until the act was done. And you know, at that point,
Speaker 5: we're laying ducks. We're on our way out of here.
Speaker 4: And that's that's why everybody should be horrified by this,
Speaker 4: because it just makes everybody that much more cynical.
Speaker 2: And why wouldn't it How does it not make you
Speaker 2: more cynical? Wow?
Speaker 5: It should, Yeah, it really should the Great Jonathan Turley
Speaker 5: had a comment or two Michael Unleash forty one on
Speaker 5: the good folks if you want.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, the president clearly is hoping that he's
Speaker 9: given him this sweeping protection and that includes unnamed crimes
Speaker 9: quite literally there, you know, Hunter Biden could have you know,
Speaker 9: six heads in a duffel bag in his basement and
Speaker 9: this would cover it as long as he committed those
Speaker 9: murders during this ten year period. It would not protect him,
Speaker 9: by the way from state charges. But it's a sweeping
Speaker 9: a pardon that we haven't seen really the likes of
Speaker 9: since Nixon. I. It's pretty unprecedented in that respect. The
Speaker 9: problem is that Hunter could be called before Congress. Congress
Speaker 9: has committees that are still looking into the influence peddling
Speaker 9: scandal involving millions and millions of dollars. He could be
Speaker 9: called to testify. Last time he did that, the House
Speaker 9: accused him of being misleading even false in his testimony.
Speaker 9: If he commits perjury again, it's a new crime and
Speaker 9: this pardon will not have an impact and he could
Speaker 9: face a diition charges.
Speaker 4: Six heads in a duffel bag would be quite a story,
Speaker 4: and his mass.
Speaker 2: Be heading a federal crime. I don't know. I'd have
Speaker 2: to look that up, and Hunter could go, eh, walk
Speaker 2: out the door.
Speaker 5: Wow, totally. In a different clip we played earlier, called
Speaker 5: the Bidens the Goats of Corruption, which really sounds like
Speaker 5: either a protest metal band, as I said earlier, or
Speaker 5: a I don't know, as a poorly received political novel.
Speaker 2: The Goats of corup maybe a biblical phrase.
Speaker 5: Yeah we God, yeah yahweh unleashed it on the Egyptians
Speaker 5: for you know, the israelis too long.
Speaker 2: And then he said, with the goats of corrupt, he
Speaker 2: saw the golden calf and realized they needed to be
Speaker 2: teached to listen bit teached.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, he's just talking about how and getting back
Speaker 5: to the hole.
Speaker 2: It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
Speaker 5: This is so obviously a dodge to protect the Biden
Speaker 5: crime family, but they got away with it. I'm hoping
Speaker 5: the story is told at some point the cosmic justice
Speaker 5: of history reckoning with the Biden administration and the Biden
Speaker 5: family as crooks.
Speaker 2: That would be good enough for me.
Speaker 5: I don't know, And maybe that's meaningless, but no, I
Speaker 5: don't think it does.
Speaker 2: It is meaningless.
Speaker 5: I think we've talked about this a lot, including earlier,
Speaker 5: the importance of culture, and how culture is much more
Speaker 5: massive and important and precious than we ever give it. Culture,
Speaker 5: for evil doers have to be called out as evil doers,
Speaker 5: even if they are moldering in the grave.
Speaker 4: Well, this is all pretty recent. I was looking at
Speaker 4: a pol the other day. I should dig it up
Speaker 4: because I screen captured the results. We think government will
Speaker 4: do the right thing was like solid three quarters of
Speaker 4: Americans up into the mid seventies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so ours.
Speaker 4: This cynicism about government is pretty damn new. Now you
Speaker 4: could say, well, that's just because we were dumb and
Speaker 4: didn't know what they were doing, and now we do
Speaker 4: know what we're doing, so we rightly are cynical.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I suppose you could say that, But I don't know,
Speaker 2: And I think there's more evil doing. I think, for instance, yeah,
Speaker 2: I uh.
Speaker 5: And the way I would convince you is this, the
Speaker 5: willingness to wildly overspend revenue is a moral failing. It's
Speaker 5: it's not a merely a fiscally irresponsible thing. It is
Speaker 5: a huge moral failing, and that just it shows a
Speaker 5: moral route that that goes.
Speaker 4: I think it all sorts of directions, definitely, but that's
Speaker 4: that's that's not illegal, and we do have some control
Speaker 4: over that as voters and don't seem to care. But
Speaker 4: as far as just like people being crooks, I always
Speaker 4: remember this en I've tried to find it.
Speaker 2: I hope I remember it correctly because I've been saying
Speaker 2: it for years. This goes way back. Bill Clinton.
Speaker 4: Was on Larry King on CNN, So this is back
Speaker 4: in the day when that was sort of thing, and
Speaker 4: they're talking about corruption and whatnot. And Bill Clinton asked
Speaker 4: Bob Dole, who had been around d C for a
Speaker 4: long time, do you think things are more corrupt now
Speaker 4: or less corrupt or there's more of that going on
Speaker 4: right now? And Bob Dole said, oh, much less, much
Speaker 4: less now. It's just people know more about it, so
Speaker 4: it seems like there's more. Ah, And I've always thought
Speaker 4: about that that I could believe that's true, but I
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know, but certainly this isn't gonna
Speaker 4: make a lot of people cynical, a whole new generation
Speaker 4: of cynical between the Trump is the new Hitler And
Speaker 4: as soon as the election's over, you're like, ay, whatever,
Speaker 4: and I think I'll go have lunch at his house
Speaker 4: and an in pardoning hunter. After all that talk about
Speaker 4: we're the party who believes in the justice system, I
Speaker 4: don't know. The next generation of young people are gonna
Speaker 4: be pretty damn cynical. Two final notes from me. Number one,
Speaker 4: Apparently there is now available at the Armstrong in Getty
Speaker 4: store a Goats of Corruption t shirt com It's a
Speaker 4: nice font with a crown over the word goats.
Speaker 2: I believe I think that's a crown. Is that a
Speaker 2: crowd is a crown? That is goats of corruption? The
Speaker 2: Biden family.
Speaker 5: And my second comment is, actually these are all ecliped
Speaker 5: number fifty four, Michael, these are all the leading lights
Speaker 5: of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: This nation was founded on the principle that there are
Speaker 3: no kings in America.
Speaker 2: Each each of us is equal before the law. No one,
Speaker 2: no one is above the law. The fact is, no
Speaker 2: one is above the law in this country. No one
Speaker 2: is above the law.
Speaker 3: The American principle that no one is above the law
Speaker 3: was reaffirmed.
Speaker 2: Make no mistake, no one, not even the President of
Speaker 2: the United States, is above the law. And my administration,
Speaker 2: no one in no one is above the law. God.
Speaker 4: When Trump heard the news that Biden pardoned a hunter,
Speaker 4: he had to be figuring, oh my god, is this unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Because now I thought I was shameless.
Speaker 4: He's seeking I can pardon myself now or pardon other people.
Speaker 4: And it has like ten percent of the sting it
Speaker 4: would have had otherwise. Correct. Correct, So free pass. We
Speaker 4: got to take a break. But a quick question, are
Speaker 4: there more to come? Do you think Joe Partons's brother
Speaker 4: or anybody else involved in any of this stuff?
Speaker 2: Entirely possible? Yeah.
Speaker 5: He will issue a bunch of you know, twelve hour,
Speaker 5: eleventh hour pardons, as all presidents do, and some of
Speaker 5: them could be family.
Speaker 10: Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does those midnight pardons, and then you know,
Speaker 4: you got the whole day one. Donald Trump going after
Speaker 4: the border deportion or whatever deportation. That'll that'll just off
Speaker 4: out any any knowledge of the Biden pardons.
Speaker 2: More on the way, Stay here, Bob, I'm strong, and
Speaker 2: Getty says who.
Speaker 6: Bob Doll says, who.
Speaker 11: Strong.
Speaker 4: Painsley on Fox and Friends or whatever that show is
Speaker 4: is wearing leather pants today. And I noticed that, as
Speaker 4: as a guy who notices this sort of thing, leather
Speaker 4: pants seem to be a thing.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 4: There was quite a few women wearing leather or full
Speaker 4: leather pants this leather fall season.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's back and better than ever leather pants. That's
Speaker 5: the pleasure of wearing them. Yeah, yeah, you've never warned
Speaker 5: them yourself. No, no, I have not.
Speaker 2: I have not either. Are you wearing leather pants, hedy,
Speaker 2: I can't see.
Speaker 11: Uh, I am not wearing leather pants, and I do
Speaker 11: not recommend it.
Speaker 2: I have before, and it's not a fun time chafing. No,
Speaker 2: it's just hot and not comfortable. Okay, they look hot though,
Speaker 2: that's what I hear. Look awesome. Oh my, this is troubling.
Speaker 2: Perhaps we should just move on. HR is walking down
Speaker 2: here right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I want to apologize. I really booted one yesterday,
Speaker 5: as the Baseball Reference booted a ground ball. We were
Speaker 5: talking about the Doge Commission and their efforts to save
Speaker 5: money on the federal budget, and we were talking about
Speaker 5: how much of the budget is mandatory spending Medicare, Medicaid,
Speaker 5: social Security, et cetera. And then you've got your discretionary
Speaker 5: spending and you can rain that in a lot and
Speaker 5: the Pentagon and all. And I went too softly on
Speaker 5: a couple of things. I mean, like way too softly
Speaker 5: making the Pentagon more efficient. We did talk about making
Speaker 5: sure it's not about the military industrial complex. It's about
Speaker 5: the foreign policy and the fighting men and women in
Speaker 5: the United States incredibly important.
Speaker 11: So.
Speaker 5: Let's put that aside. But getting back to Medicare and
Speaker 5: Medicaid in particular, and to a lesser extent, social Security.
Speaker 2: I had semi spaced off a.
Speaker 5: Couple of stories that I've been sitting on wanting to
Speaker 5: bring up for a long time, including this one. Insurers
Speaker 5: collected billions from Medicare for veterans who cost them almost nothing.
Speaker 5: These are veterans who have Medicare as kind of a backup,
Speaker 5: but they get Vacare, but they're insurers. Their Medicare advantage.
Speaker 5: Insurers get many thousands of dollars a year to cover
Speaker 5: the cost of things that never happen. And then there
Speaker 5: was a story that the Wall Street Journal covered not
Speaker 5: long ago about this incredible rampant fraud industry where insurance
Speaker 5: companies that are billing the government send a nurse to
Speaker 5: Old Joe Getty's house and they say, hey, old Joe Getty,
Speaker 5: show me your elbow.
Speaker 2: Do that would you.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you got old guy elbow syndrol, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna need to get paid one thousand dollars a
Speaker 5: month to treat.
Speaker 2: That, but they never treat it. It's an enormous scam.
Speaker 5: So yeah, what I didn't really bring up, we didn't
Speaker 5: talk about is we need to institute a culture of
Speaker 5: accountability and efficiency in our mandatory programs.
Speaker 2: I love that sounds fantastic, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 8: Despite the crowds, the TSA says Laser focused on the
Speaker 8: biggest threat to America liquids over three ounces.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 8: On their social media, they posted this photo featuring confiscated
Speaker 8: water bottles and one bottle of ranch dressing.
Speaker 2: You know, you just know, you know.
Speaker 8: There was there was some dad who tried to chug
Speaker 8: the whole thing before giving it up. I paid for this,
Speaker 8: damn it, and I'm not gonna waste the kids you
Speaker 8: get to work on the thousand Island? Does anyone have
Speaker 8: any salary?
Speaker 4: Are the three ounces for liquids similar to the six
Speaker 4: feet apart for COVID?
Speaker 2: Just like a random number might be no flowed down
Speaker 2: to that one plot to combine.
Speaker 4: If that was one God hadn't tried to light his
Speaker 4: shoes on fire, nobody'd be taking their shoes off. I mean,
Speaker 4: so it's just all these the reactions to a single
Speaker 4: plot that live on for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2: I guess, all eternity. So it would seem all of eternity.
Speaker 2: I hope not.
Speaker 4: I could question before we get to some news. You're
Speaker 4: talking about discretionary spending in the government. I have discretionary
Speaker 4: spending in my own life, as.
Speaker 2: Most people do. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4: Made a threat with my kids, and I you know,
Speaker 4: I had backed myself into a situation where I was
Speaker 4: gonna have to follow through on it or all my
Speaker 4: future threats would be hollow. Obviously, that particularly with one
Speaker 4: of my sons if he didn't come up with stuff
Speaker 4: to do other than looking at a screen. I was
Speaker 4: gonna get rid of all of our streaming services. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna get rid of them. I mean, if if
Speaker 4: you can't discipline yourself to do something, what should I do?
Speaker 4: And then I always make a list, read a book,
Speaker 4: play an instrument, walk the dog, exercise, color right, draw,
Speaker 4: build something. I mean, it's all the things human beings
Speaker 4: have been doing since the dawn of time. There are
Speaker 4: things to do other than watching the screen, and so
Speaker 4: it's probably gone on way too long. And so I
Speaker 4: followed through on the threat and I canceled everything. Now
Speaker 4: you can't canceled immediately, or maybe you can, if you
Speaker 4: do know how to do that, let me know. But
Speaker 4: I mean, I suppose I could get rid of the TV,
Speaker 4: but I need to watch the news. But I canceled
Speaker 4: all the services, so they'll all end in the next
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: They have various start dates, so in the next couple
Speaker 2: of weeks.
Speaker 4: My Netflix, my Hulu, my Paramount, my HBO, Max, my Eye,
Speaker 4: I have all of them.
Speaker 2: I canceled them all.
Speaker 4: Wow, Amazon, Apple, Yeah, I canceled them all, So it'll
Speaker 4: be that's discretionary spending. It was kind of interesting how
Speaker 4: much it added up to. It was several hundred dollars
Speaker 4: a month. Oh boy, Oh, I so need to do that.
Speaker 4: I mean, some form of it. But I hardly ever
Speaker 4: watch them at all, and it was kind of a
Speaker 4: drag last night. Henry went to bed early and I thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe i'll watch another I don't, but I don't watch
Speaker 4: them that much, and so it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 4: what life is like without any of those streaming services.
Speaker 5: I swear there's some sort of insidious, practically supernatural plot
Speaker 5: to make sure that the shows we're interested in, Jen
Speaker 5: and I we almost always watched together, they will touch
Speaker 5: on each of the stream right, exactly, we haven't watched
Speaker 5: a damn thing on Hulu for the longest time. All right,
Speaker 5: it's time to cancel what only murders in the building.
Speaker 2: Out with the new season? It's on what is it
Speaker 2: on Hulu?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 5: Oh, maybe we'll keep that one around for a little bit,
Speaker 5: and then the next thing you want to see is
Speaker 5: on whatever.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 4: Almost seem like that they figure out your profile of
Speaker 4: what you like and spread them out. They might actually
Speaker 4: do this and spread it out among all the different
Speaker 4: streaming services to try to keep you on as many
Speaker 4: as boss.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if it was like, you know, one of
Speaker 4: them's always rom coms and one of them's always whatever
Speaker 4: you call breaking bad type stuff dramas, I mean, it
Speaker 4: would be easier. But no, it's all spread out. I'll
Speaker 4: be interesting to see how this experiment works. My son
Speaker 4: actually said, Okay, I'm gonna start doing drugs.
Speaker 2: Then wow, you know.
Speaker 4: Them ah, speaking up doing drugs or being hammered or whatnot.
Speaker 4: Back to the news, Pete Hegsath, who may or may
Speaker 4: not become Secretary of Defense your current reading. If you
Speaker 4: had to guess, is he going to be the second
Speaker 4: deaf very shaky? Trump nominated him because he'd seen him
Speaker 4: on Fox and Friends, I think, But uh, plenty of
Speaker 4: people who think he would be a good candidate to
Speaker 4: try to emphasize the role of our military men as
Speaker 4: opposed to the hemoth that is the spending machine that
Speaker 4: is the Pentagon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is an extremely bright and forceful thinker and
Speaker 5: speaker on that topic. As he's very impressive, as even
Speaker 5: people who know him and like him have said though
Speaker 5: in podcasts I listened to and shows I watch, he
Speaker 5: has a very messy personal life. People who know him,
Speaker 5: you know, and you know people like that who just
Speaker 5: they got messy personal lives.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and apparently he does. I hadn't heard this particular
Speaker 4: version from ABC News last night.
Speaker 12: Hag Seth is also the subject of a damning report
Speaker 12: in The New Yorker describing multiple instances of alleged financial
Speaker 12: mismanagement and workplace behavior concerns involving alcohol, citing an internal
Speaker 12: whistleblower report and emails related to an organization he used
Speaker 12: to head, including one instance where he brought his employees
Speaker 12: to a strip club and quote haig Seth had to
Speaker 12: be restrained while drunk from joining the dancers on the
Speaker 12: stage and MANBC News has not independently confirmed their reporting.
Speaker 12: A hag Seth advisor telling ABC, We're not going to
Speaker 12: comment on outlandish claims laundered through The New Yorker by
Speaker 12: a petty and jealous, disgruntled former associate of mister hag Seth's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, you never know what's true or
Speaker 4: what's not. You never know what was you know, half
Speaker 4: of that or all of that or ten percent of that,
Speaker 4: and then gets retold in a different way. And then
Speaker 4: there's the angle of which we've talked about a lot.
Speaker 4: So you want super brave, hard ass, tough guy fighting
Speaker 4: men who don't drink and go to script cubs and
Speaker 4: get wild down, then okay, we'll try to find some of.
Speaker 2: Those, right. Yeah, I just came up with this expression.
Speaker 2: I think I may have stolen it.
Speaker 5: He colors his life to the edges. That's pretty I'm
Speaker 5: picturing something like a coloring or something. He colors, clear
Speaker 5: to the colors, clear to the edges, and sometimes he
Speaker 5: goes over a little bit. I tell you what if
Speaker 5: he were otherwise qualified And he said, yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: back in my late twenties, early the thirties, I was
Speaker 5: drinking too much.
Speaker 2: I was living too wildlife. It was a mistake and
Speaker 2: I'm past it. I think, okay, you.
Speaker 5: Know, as long as there was evidence that that that
Speaker 5: was the case, I would not give.
Speaker 4: A caarcis still going to strip clubs and getting drunk
Speaker 4: and wants to get on the stage.
Speaker 2: What the hell difference does that like? I think that
Speaker 2: speaks to larger issues. It's having a good time. He's
Speaker 2: blown off some steam. He's a fighting man. He's a
Speaker 2: handsome man too.
Speaker 5: I mean, if he were to get up there, the ladies,
Speaker 5: certainly the straight ladies in the house would be placed.
Speaker 4: And you know, was he joking around and he was
Speaker 4: full restrained, or was he actually climbing on stage and
Speaker 4: bouncers had to hold him back.
Speaker 2: You don't know if it happened at all.
Speaker 5: One bad night does not an indictment make of a
Speaker 5: person's character. On the other hand, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 5: read the full text of the email, his mom wrote
Speaker 5: him that the New Times publishing they got a hold
Speaker 5: of through a different.
Speaker 4: Relations Senator Ted Kennedy drowned a woman and covered it up.
Speaker 5: For eight Since that's a fairly low bar. Well, just
Speaker 5: lots of things happen. Have you ever drowned a young
Speaker 5: woman then covered it up? No, Senator, not that I recall. Well,
Speaker 5: here the keys to the Pentagon, Son, that's a hell
Speaker 5: of a standard you got over there.
Speaker 13: Here the keys to the Pentagon. Anyway, there's one door
Speaker 13: at the front, and he has the key. Hold on,
Speaker 13: let me unlock the door. Sorry, Oh, that's that's right.
Speaker 13: The strip club trying to get on stage.
Speaker 5: His his mom's email, Uh we we soft pedaled it.
Speaker 2: I read the whole thing. It is a.
Speaker 5: Coldly angry, detailed, sober indictment. It's it's devastating, it's awful.
Speaker 5: Now she again is claiming these days. She immediately wrote
Speaker 5: him back apologize, said that was out of line.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that. Blah blah blah. But she
Speaker 2: didn't say it's not true, though, does she? Yes, she does.
Speaker 5: She says, oh, it's he's a good man and a
Speaker 5: good husband, father, And then those things I said were
Speaker 5: not true. But that makes her just a nut that.
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, it wasn't. It wasn't the
Speaker 5: spoutings of an angry, sputtering, you know, person who like
Speaker 5: to you know, we have played an excerpt of a
Speaker 5: phone message at the very end of the Friday Show
Speaker 5: for a long time where this lover spurned is just
Speaker 5: so angry at her lover she's dropping f bombs all
Speaker 5: over the place and ends with have a great Friday,
Speaker 5: you mother, Blanker. It was not like that. It was
Speaker 5: very carefully written. And if then she fifteen minutes later
Speaker 5: she said none of that is true, I mean, that's.
Speaker 2: That's crazy time.
Speaker 5: So at some point these questions accumulate, whether fairly or unfairly,
Speaker 5: And if they're just too many of them, why.
Speaker 4: Though I don't so have we decided and I'm not
Speaker 4: exactly sure where I am on this issue, but did
Speaker 4: we decide as a country?
Speaker 2: For certain, if we had known what John F. Kennedy
Speaker 2: was doing, he shouldn't have been president. Or Martin Luther
Speaker 2: King Junior.
Speaker 4: Sorry, you can't lead this of a rights movement because
Speaker 4: you cheat on your wife all the time.
Speaker 2: In light of women? Is that what we is that
Speaker 2: our standard new.
Speaker 5: No, clearly because we just reelected Donald J. Trump, who's
Speaker 5: got a bit of a history himself. I just think
Speaker 5: the key is if that is juxtapost against But this
Speaker 5: guy is like an unbelievable reformer and has straightened out
Speaker 5: this bureaucracy and this department. Now he's gonna put the
Speaker 5: you know, foot to ask in the Pentagon. There's a
Speaker 5: lot you could overlook. But if a guy is also
Speaker 5: a Wow, he's got no experience as an administrator, he's
Speaker 5: new to it.
Speaker 2: He's I'm not sure Shandy's a cad.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all just kind of factors in.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't actually know what I think
Speaker 4: about this, but you'd have to eliminate some of the
Speaker 4: greatest figures in US history.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Some of it is presentism in that we have completely
Speaker 4: different beliefs about things like the own enslaves or whatnot.
Speaker 4: But the cheating on your wife stuff from the sixties, No,
Speaker 4: that was never cool. Nobody thought somebody in those real
Speaker 4: lives thought that was cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. It was different certainly the way
Speaker 5: the media dealt with it. It was your job and
Speaker 5: then your personal life, and you just the personal life
Speaker 5: is none of our business. Do you care, athleat or
Speaker 5: a politician?
Speaker 2: Do you ever care? And this is the example I
Speaker 2: always use.
Speaker 4: You ever care if the CEO of your company is
Speaker 4: cheating on his wife going to strip clubs, I don't care.
Speaker 5: As long as somebody is coming going to have an
Speaker 5: impact on the company.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine carrying other than for gossip reasons.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I know, we got to figure this out.
Speaker 4: Maybe this will be the conversation. In fact, it probably
Speaker 4: will be the conversation during his hearing, which will happen
Speaker 4: in January or February.
Speaker 5: Here's a sports metaphor for you as a longtime San
Speaker 5: Francco Giants fan. And I was not really down with
Speaker 5: this at the time anyway, but Barry Bonds one of
Speaker 5: the greatest hitters in the history of the Major League
Speaker 5: Baseball and one of the greatest steroid consumers since Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 2: He was not a good presence in the clubhouse.
Speaker 5: He was a selfish superstar Prima donna toward the end
Speaker 5: of his career.
Speaker 2: The giant head and tiny testicles.
Speaker 5: That's right, And that's one of the reasons the Giants
Speaker 5: got rid of him and he couldn't really find a team.
Speaker 5: If you hit like Barry Bonds, you can be a
Speaker 5: prick in the clubhouse. But if you're a two twenty
Speaker 5: hitter and you heck like that, no nobody wants you.
Speaker 2: And the problem with a pete hexast guy.
Speaker 5: And I do have a great deal of respect for
Speaker 5: him on several different levels, but he's an unproven hitter
Speaker 5: in this league and he's bringing the baggage in and
Speaker 5: the questions and it's just no, it's too much. It all.
Speaker 2: It's the totality of it.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be the conversation when the hearing finally
Speaker 4: starts if he sticks around that long, and he.
Speaker 5: Might not get out of the park, and if he does,
Speaker 5: all of the concerns will be laid aside. In the
Speaker 5: Senate will say, you know, the President gets to a
Speaker 5: point who he wants, let's give the guy a try.
Speaker 4: I thought John Stewart was brilliant last night on the
Speaker 4: whole Hunter Hunter Biden pardon.
Speaker 2: We have a little more of that. We will finish
Speaker 2: strong coming up.
Speaker 4: John Stewart Daily Show last night went big on the
Speaker 4: Hunter Biden pardon.
Speaker 10: But you know what, ladies and gentlemen, hipocrisy is an
Speaker 10: illegal nor is it particularly unusual on politics. It's not
Speaker 10: like he's ever going to run again, So why not
Speaker 10: take care of your kid even if you said you
Speaker 10: weren't gonna I respect it. I don't have a problem
Speaker 10: with it. The problem is the rest of the Democrats
Speaker 10: made Biden's pledge to not pardon Hunter the foundation of
Speaker 10: their defense of America, this grand experiment.
Speaker 9: One political party remains committed.
Speaker 2: To the rule of law and the other doesn't. It's
Speaker 2: that simple. Hunter Biden's not above the law. No one
Speaker 2: is above the law.
Speaker 9: Democrats stand for the rule of law.
Speaker 10: We accept the outcome because that's how the rule of
Speaker 10: law works.
Speaker 11: Because the justice system that convicted is only a surviving
Speaker 11: son is the same justice system he's about to protect.
Speaker 11: And if that doesn't tell you who Joe Biden is,
Speaker 11: I don't really know what does?
Speaker 10: I think I know what does? And now look at
Speaker 10: the dance Democrats have to do.
Speaker 4: Yep, look at the dance they have to do now
Speaker 4: explaining what their guy decided all of a sudden to
Speaker 4: pardon his son. Yeah, it's a uncomfortable position. There's some
Speaker 4: serious tap dancing going on. But I'm hearing a lot
Speaker 4: of people saying this went too far. I don't remember,
Speaker 4: maybe because I'm tired. I know I've learned this a
Speaker 4: half dozen times. Why does the president have the ability
Speaker 4: to pardon anybody for anything? Why such a blanket power?
Speaker 4: What was the original point?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 5: I don't remember, like from the Federalist papers or.
Speaker 4: I'venates of the customer. I've known several times, and it
Speaker 4: always makes sense. It's so that something can't happen, but
Speaker 4: it gets abused.
Speaker 5: I bought that gigantic book when I was on vacation
Speaker 5: this summer. That was like the minutes of the discussions
Speaker 5: at the Constitutional Convention.
Speaker 2: I got to go dig into that.
Speaker 5: I hope there's an index because it's like fifteen hundred
Speaker 5: pages long.
Speaker 2: But it gets abused.
Speaker 4: I mean, every president going out of office usually you know,
Speaker 4: at eleven fifty nine on January twentieth, and it barely
Speaker 4: makes the news because you're every newscast has the speech
Speaker 4: of the new president and everything else that's happening, and
Speaker 4: you know, some people get upset.
Speaker 2: About it and it goes away. But the horrible there's
Speaker 2: been some horrible pardons in my Lifetime.
Speaker 5: Well, you have to get out a jail free card
Speaker 5: for your friends and cronies.
Speaker 2: It's that's that's it. Yeah, this is a particularly bad
Speaker 2: example of it thoughts. I'm strong, It's I'm strong, You're ready,
Speaker 2: Kay Green and.
Speaker 11: Strong.
Speaker 2: We're all doing the Trump dance. You couldn't say it.
Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Let's get
Speaker 2: a finals off from everybody on the show. To wrap
Speaker 2: things up for the day.
Speaker 5: There is our technical director keeping us on the air, Michaelangelo.
Speaker 2: Which final thought, Michael, Yeah, My final thought is the
Speaker 2: December third, and is finally the day. I can't eat
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving leftovers anymore. I just I can't eat any more turkey.
Speaker 2: I should have had you bring it in. I didn't
Speaker 2: get any leftovers. I miss it. That is tragic. Katie
Speaker 2: Green are esteemed Newswoman.
Speaker 5: As a final thought, Katie as of noxious as this
Speaker 5: whole parton thing is.
Speaker 4: I am loving the montages popping up on the Internet
Speaker 4: of just all the clips like The Hunter are doing
Speaker 4: crack and oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gift Democrats. No one is above the low.
Speaker 4: John Stewart last night when he was doing his hunderbite
Speaker 4: impersonation put a gun on the table.
Speaker 2: Wow wow Jack. Final thought for.
Speaker 4: Us, Yeah, I wasn't gonna talk about this, but I did.
Speaker 4: I declared, my favorite flavor is like turkey gravy stuffing
Speaker 4: mashed potatoes together. That spoonful of that is my favorite
Speaker 4: all time flavor.
Speaker 2: God, that's good.
Speaker 5: I'm too hungry to think, oh gosh, my favorite.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: My final thought, I'm not the least bit tired of
Speaker 5: calling out the outrageousness of this blanket immunity for his
Speaker 5: partner in crime, his boy, Joe Biden's boy. It is
Speaker 5: so much bigger than a commutation of a sentence or
Speaker 5: pardoning for a specific crime. It is a superpower granted
Speaker 5: to a known criminal by his papa. Armstrong in Getty
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Speaker 4: I like random T shirts that need explanation. I think
Speaker 4: that's hilarious. We will see you tomorrow. God bless America.
Speaker 5: Listen up, Jack Wagon Wirst episode.
Speaker 4: Every let's hug and love each other and we'll be
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Speaker 2: Damn, that's just the way it is. Empty and Boom
Speaker 2: goes to dynamite. Whoo, let's go with the.
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm in the mood for, bone deep sadness,
Speaker 5: sadden to the bones, to the bone full of melancholy.
Speaker 2: Sad that I know. Thank you all very much, Armstrong
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