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Speaker 2: They're offering us thirty eight seventy seven, which is their

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Speaker 2: We accepted that they came up to take Jaylen Locker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we get forced into it by trading back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would have considered him at twenty one. All right,

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Speaker 3: We're good on next year back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think TYLERK. Williams. I think he has a little

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Speaker 3: I think I'd take Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I think I take Tyler Williams as well.

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Speaker 3: Now, Benton's not a nose right now, you're moving.

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Speaker 2: He's your second round pick.

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Speaker 3: Mean Ohio State. Yeah, national champion. All right, we're not

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Speaker 3: still in the market for an up the field lineman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're now up at eighty three top players available.

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Speaker 2: Bow a Lot, offensive lineman for Purdue. Scatabo running back

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Speaker 2: Shuck is there? I don't think that's crazy to take

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Speaker 3: What's that shuck?

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Speaker 2: Third round? Tyler shuck? Yeah, let's just take a look

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Speaker 2: at the other who else is available? Court? So it's

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Speaker 3: So he stands out a big way to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem. Yeah, that's found build for us.

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay, Tyler shuck it is. And we're cruising

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Speaker 3: Two something like that fourth round.

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Speaker 2: Heading to the fourth round, we got Mari and Hampton.

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Speaker 3: And we've i mean the first two. We're gonna play

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Speaker 3: a lot for you, Raving Bat.

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Speaker 2: have three trade offers. Chiefs are on the phone. They

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Speaker 2: want to give us more picks for next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to reject that. Root against.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers want to give us like seventeen

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. I'd like to know the tackles,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Belton, who might be a guard, Holland Pierce, Jalen Rivers,

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Speaker 2: Chase Lunt, Johnny Cornelius out of Oregon, Jack Nelson, the

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle from Wisconsin, Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon. There's more of

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Speaker 2: those guys available.

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Speaker 3: Than there are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that group is defensive ends. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 2: true defensive ends. And that's what Robinson is.

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Speaker 3: Belton was my favorite of the group you mentioned. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but there were five of them I could live with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's here's what you're looking at at defensive on

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Speaker 2: Nebraska Jamari Calbwell out of Oregon, Well, he's a nose. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a nose. Vernon Broughton out of Texas is still there.

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Speaker 2: He would be a defensive vent. Yeah, yeah, JJ Packise

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Speaker 2: is a nose. Cam Jackson a nose.

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Speaker 3: Same thing like when we take granted the first round,

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Speaker 3: there's all these noses in around.

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Speaker 2: For Kim Smith still there, Like those are guys that everything.

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Speaker 3: He wants as much as we Yeah. Right. Do you

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Speaker 3: like Robinson more and Broughton? I do? I do too, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think he's more active. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They have him ranked one hundred and six, and their

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Speaker 2: overall rankings weren't one twenty.

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Speaker 3: Three, so they seem to have him properly ranked. We

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Speaker 3: have him a little lower down.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred come on. Yeah, Ty robinsonto this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very different type then, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He's a true He's like a six to six and

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Speaker 2: ninety five pounder. I think he plays that runs in athletics. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just bangs into things and makes plays.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't turn my nose up at a corner, wouldn't

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Speaker 3: turn my nose up at a receiver. Usually this part

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Speaker 3: of the draft receivers or I definitely would love that

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Speaker 3: in No lineman of some sort to develop.

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Speaker 2: Well, here are the guys.

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Speaker 3: That's about where I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: Gar interior offensive linemen who are available. Dylan Fairchild from Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of work on him. I like

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Speaker 2: Miles Frasier out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: Think he's interesting too. He played some tackle to Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Seth McLaughlin out of Ohio State, Caleb Rodgers out of

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Josh Gray out of Oregon State, Connor Colby

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Speaker 2: out of Iowa, Jake Majors out of Texas, Clay Webb

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Speaker 3: He's interesting too because you don't need him for now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the tackles still available. Hall In Pierce still there, okay,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers, Chase Lunt up Rivers.

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Speaker 3: Is a guard, but that doesn't mean wouldn't take them.

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Speaker 2: Right, Johnny Cornelius, I don't have a problem taking an

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Speaker 3: Here, who's your favorite? There was like five names that

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Speaker 3: I'd be fine with, uh Ratledge, Rivers, Lunt.

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Speaker 2: I forget the first at this point.

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Speaker 3: Fairchild, Yeah, the other guard for Georgia Fairchild, the LSU

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Speaker 3: mentioned to the Rutgers kid. Any of those will be

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Speaker 3: fine with me. I think women and develop them.

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Speaker 2: I think, when in doubt, you take a tackle.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, even if he's rated a little,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're they're pretty close in the overall ratings.

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Speaker 2: I think you take call in Pierce.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. You're never gonna I think we've

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Speaker 3: got into the conclusion you're not gonna have to twist

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Speaker 3: my arm to take an I line. No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, he may not help you next year. I

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, right, Yeah, but he might be goal

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Speaker 3: line with Washington on the other side, and that's your

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Speaker 3: front seven. Yeah, you know, all right, So we're back

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Speaker 3: to develop into Biselli. I just need him to develop

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Speaker 3: into something I can use.

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Speaker 2: We're back up at one eighty five up players available.

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Speaker 2: Seth McLaughlin offensive guard from Ohio State. Caleb Rodgers offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman or guard I should say, from Texas Tech. Vernon

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Speaker 2: Broughton is still there.

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Speaker 3: We can fit him in.

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Speaker 2: Kind of weird. Yeah, it's kind of weird. But Tyler

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Speaker 2: Baron edge rusher out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: Harvey running back out of UCF. Josh Gray still there,

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Speaker 2: the guard out of Oregon before.

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Speaker 3: I like him.

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Speaker 2: Trevor at n we.

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Speaker 3: To go running back in round one. Some of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Harvey shouldn't still be there. Yeah, that's just the beauty

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Speaker 3: of the depth.

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Speaker 2: JJ Pageese is still there.

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Speaker 3: All right? I mean taking three is crazy making my fullback? Yeah? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Jalen Conyers tight end out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Doanta Thornton wide receiver out of Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Big strong and fast guy.

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Speaker 2: Cal McCord is still there. Jackson Hawes still there, tight

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Speaker 2: end out of Georgia Tech. I should say, I like

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Speaker 2: the guards. Stout is there, the cornerback out of Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: If we had nothing drafted or probably were taking one

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Speaker 3: of the d linemen, right, can we.

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Speaker 2: Really get three in right now, and what we've got

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Speaker 2: is Omari and Hampton at thirty one, Tyler Williams at

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Speaker 2: sixty three, Tyler Shuck at eighty three, ty Robinson at

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Speaker 2: one twenty three, Holland Pierce at one fifty six. We

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Speaker 2: get two picks left.

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Speaker 3: Where are you leaning? I like the guards, I like

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Speaker 3: hass I certainly like the d Lineman. It's just a

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Speaker 3: little clunky to get them all in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Tyler Baron's interesting. Throw another edge rusher

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Speaker 2: he's better than Jeremiah.

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Speaker 3: Moonah, maybe fighting with moon r Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Where maybe he's fighting with Mark Robinson. You're gonna keep it, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know nine or ten nine linebackers to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The cornerback you're looking at Stout out.

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Speaker 3: Of Bishop Yeah, I don't know if there's a room

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Speaker 3: for both.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Hussey cornerback out of North Carolina kind of the

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Speaker 2: same thing, slot, same thing. I think Jason Marshall out

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Speaker 2: of Florida. Same You're getting a lot of slot type guys.

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Speaker 2: There any receivers you like? He can fly, but that's

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Speaker 2: all he does. Nick Nash, the wide receiver, out of

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Speaker 2: San Jose State, Pat Bryant out of Illinoiskeandre Lambert Smith

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Speaker 2: out of Auburn, Jalen Lane out of Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big Jayleen Lane fan.

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Speaker 2: Ricky White out of UNLV.

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Speaker 3: I like a lot of those names. We've talked about this,

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Speaker 3: I mean the problem with drafting the receiver there. He's

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Speaker 3: the perfect guy that won't be active on game day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's because they're not gonna be special teamers.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Ricky White would be Ricky White would

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Speaker 3: be You're but you're one injury away from needing them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Lane's my favorite of that group. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: names there. I like numerous positions. Yeah, usually I'm not

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Speaker 3: as excited about this late in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Safety, Hunter Wohlers, there are j Mickens, Dante Trader.

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Speaker 3: What direction you leading?

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Speaker 2: Interior off and offensive line? You still have SETH McLachlin.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't bad. The interior line is pretty decent. I

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Speaker 3: think we have to shy away from d line. A

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Speaker 3: third one is nice. Yeah, we've taken two of the

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Speaker 3: are pretty heavy. I like a couple of receivers. I

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Speaker 3: like Stout and I like the guard group.

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Speaker 2: I think we can get if we want to go

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Speaker 2: Nickel corner. We can get that with our last bin.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of names there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you take the guard. Yeah, which one

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Speaker 2: do you like the best? Who is my options again?

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Speaker 2: Seth McLachlan out of Ohio State, Caleb Rogers out of

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Josh Gray out of Oregon State, Connor Colby

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Speaker 2: out of Iowa.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy consistently grabbed in this neighborhood. Gets a

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Speaker 3: little redundant sometimes. McLaughlan is their highest interesting. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: their highest rated guy. On take mclach's fine. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: Seth McLachlan. It is now we're back. We get a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a weight here.

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Speaker 2: So now we've got Amari and Hampton running back out

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Speaker 2: of North Carolina, Tyler Williams defensive lineman out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Schuck quarterback out of Louisville, uh Ty Robinson defensive

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Speaker 2: lineman at of Nebraska, Holland Pierce tackle out of Rutgers,

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Speaker 2: and Seth McLaughlin guard out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a receiver would be interesting, but I think you

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Speaker 3: have to keep Danny Smith in mind for this pick.

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Speaker 3: You know, a slot corner, an edge, maybe a safety,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean something that's gonna make his bones,

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Speaker 3: probably on specialty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the top guys available, this is all positions.

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Speaker 2: Quay Robinson, the edge rusher out of Alabama. We took

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Speaker 2: him earlier this week. Cayman Rucker, edge rusher out of

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Speaker 2: Riley Mills the defensive lineman out of Notre Dame. Elijah

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Speaker 2: Hussey the cornerback out of North Carolina, would be a slot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have any problem with that.

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Speaker 2: Jason Marshall, cornerback out of Florida, same thing. I think

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Speaker 2: he's more of a slot. Taj Brooks, running back out

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Speaker 2: of Texas Tech, Kyle Mcgonagay running back out of Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: Mellow Dotson cornerback out of Kansas. Didn't run real well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jabbar Mohammad cornerback out of Oregon. Get another

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Speaker 2: slot type guy, ke Andre Lambert Smith. That's your top

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Speaker 2: wide receiver available. Nick Martin, the linebacker out of Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: State is there. Jalen Lane is still there.

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Speaker 3: I like laying a lot explosive. I think he's got

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Speaker 3: return skills. The slots are interesting. I was about if

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't have said Lane, I've been like, any of

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Speaker 3: those slots would help.

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Speaker 2: Might be able to sign one of those after that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thet do with Beanie Bishop, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: take Lane all right, Jalen Lane. It is interesting building.

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Speaker 2: It's differently we've typically done. But again the trade again,

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Speaker 2: I'm so interested in getting back into the second round.

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Speaker 3: It's not at any cost. But if you could still

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Speaker 3: get a d lineman that you really like and get

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Speaker 3: back in the second round, it's a nice place to be. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So again we got Omari and Hampton in the first round,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Williams in the second, Tyler Shuck in the third,

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Speaker 2: ty Robinson in the fourth, Holland Pierce in the fifth.

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Speaker 2: In the sixth round, we ended up with Seth McLaughlin,

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Speaker 2: the offensive lineman out of Ohio State, and then Jalen

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Speaker 2: Lane in the seventh round, wide receiver out of Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: No. I like it. I like it. Hampt would get

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Speaker 3: a lot of touches early. It's not our usual.

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Speaker 2: What's just looking at what's going to help you right now?

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Speaker 2: Hampton's gonna help you right now. Yeah, Williams is gonna play.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna start for you probably a lot. Shuck is

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Speaker 2: developmental for down the road. Robinson will be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: I would think. I think he's fighting like Loganly and

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Speaker 3: those guys for playing time.

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Speaker 2: Holland Pierce developmental tackle. I hope McLaughlin's a developmental guard

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Speaker 2: and Lane is a development So you got two guys

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Speaker 2: that are going to play a lot, a lot lot.

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Speaker 2: Robinson will be in the mix. And don't forget, you've

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Speaker 2: got two of your high draft picks from last year

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Speaker 2: that didn't hardly played at all for you.

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Speaker 3: I'm really high on Lane, and I'm not suggesting he's

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Speaker 3: better than these two, but between I think he could

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Speaker 3: compete with Austin and Wilson. I'm not saying he's gonna

435
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Speaker 3: beat him out for Week one playing time or anything

436
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Speaker 3: like that, but I think he's in that mold that.

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Speaker 2: He would be helpful. He is an explosive little guy. Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: so that's interesting, building a little different. Anyways, let's get

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Speaker 2: up on the video as well. Matt, We've done this

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Speaker 2: with some different positions here. I want to take a

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Speaker 2: deeper dive into the cornerback position beyond just the top guys.

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Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about the cornerback group this year,

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Speaker 2: I think if you if you pulled ten different draft

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Speaker 2: guys other than like Travis Hunter, Will Johnson and Johnny Baron,

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Speaker 2: who's going in the first round, the rest of the

471
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Speaker 2: top five might be different for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even Baron and Johnson have some questions. I

473
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Speaker 3: remember you saying this when we did our first triple

474
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Speaker 3: take right up, like every one of these guys has

475
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Speaker 3: a question about it, you know.

476
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Speaker 2: Speed Baron answered some of those things. He ran really

477
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Speaker 2: like people think, well, maybe he's a four or five guy.

478
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Speaker 2: He's not. He ran in the fourth threes.

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Speaker 3: The only question I have with him isn't what we

480
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Speaker 3: think of him, It's just what will the league value him?

481
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Speaker 3: Will they realize Branch went too late, the gene went

482
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Speaker 3: too late.

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Speaker 2: Wonderway, he's bigger than those guys too, he is, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean he might be more well not bigger in the gene, No, no,

485
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Speaker 3: not the gene, but he's bigger he's bigger than Branch.

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Speaker 2: He's bigger than Santa Straul, some of those guys who

487
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Speaker 2: were true slots. Yeah, he can play outside if you like,

488
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: more so than those And Santa Straul was fine last

489
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Speaker 2: year outside.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well right, I just wonder if the league is

491
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Speaker 3: going to start to embrace that these nickel slash, do

492
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Speaker 3: it all glue defensive backs are worth more than an

493
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Speaker 3: early second round. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To me, Johnny Barron is a much faster version of

495
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Speaker 2: Cam Sutton.

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Speaker 3: That's a good call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can do a little bit safety, he can

498
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Speaker 2: play the slot, he can play outside. Yeah, he's a

499
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: much more athletic version of that. And oh, by the way,

500
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Speaker 2: takes the ball away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, and that doesn't sound like a

502
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Sutton was pretty valuable there for Oh yeah, I mean

503
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: him to like right right, he was very helpful before

504
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: he left the first time around two and again Baron

505
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: flies around a lot more than that. And I think

506
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Speaker 3: he's more adept. Well I don't know if he's more

507
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: adept in Suton to be an outside corner. They both

508
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: could do it reasonably. Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, he's even bigger. He's bigger than Sutton. Is

510
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: he bigger than Someton, Like they're about the same heights,

511
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Speaker 2: but he's like ten pounds heavy.

512
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Speaker 3: He's pretty thick. Yeah yeah, and he'll throw his body

513
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Speaker 3: around too. Yeah. Now I like the player a lot.

514
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Speaker 2: Then you're looking at guys, I mean, how you rank

515
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Speaker 2: these these The next group of guys is like, what

516
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Speaker 2: are you looking for? Like Maxwell Hairston, like.

517
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Speaker 3: Gravel to me, stands out. Yeah, but he's got the

518
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Speaker 3: injury issue. Was for the injury, I think he'd be

519
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Speaker 3: closer to the top two. But what do you do

520
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Speaker 3: with them? What we know today?

521
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Speaker 2: Like I don't know that Maxwell Hairston necessarily fits him

522
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Speaker 2: to the Steeler scheme and what they're looking for. Small,

523
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: he's like one hundred and eighty pounds. He missed a

524
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Speaker 2: good chunk of last season with a shoulder injury that

525
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about.

526
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Speaker 3: He has some aggressiveness to him too, Like I hate

527
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: to say this and I hope it's not true, but

528
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: he might not be long for the league throwing his

529
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Speaker 3: little body around and yeah, it's pretty as he is

530
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of big collisions. I think he's

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Speaker 3: a good player, But I was actually talking corners on

532
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Speaker 3: a different podcast this morning, it was like everyone all

533
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Speaker 3: of a sudden's mocking Hairston in the late first round

534
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Speaker 3: because he ran well and.

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Speaker 2: All the other guys are hurt around him.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're.

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Speaker 3: The fan base that takes Hairston to the Rams, are

539
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Speaker 3: you thrilled? Like he seems like a second rounder to me? Yeah,

540
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: that was your second pick in the draft, Like, oh good, No,

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Speaker 3: he's a nice pickup. But if he's the first guy,

542
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Speaker 3: I'm hanging my hat on in my draft last week.

543
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: Same with like Azeri a Thomas all Right exact player,

544
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: kind of the opposite. Yeah, doesn't run as well, but

545
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: run as well, a little bigger, you know, revel you

546
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: mentioned Velle really and if he were clean, I think

547
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: he could be top ten player. Yeah, but he's not.

548
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: He's not. And yeah, an East Carolina guy. You'd love

549
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: to have seen it the Senior Bowl and things like that,

550
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: and well you don't get it, you know. So he's

551
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: a real tricky one. You know.

552
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 2: Then you look at guys like Trey Amos or Benjamin Morrison.

553
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: Morrison's the same way. If Morrison were clean, he might

554
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Speaker 2: be in the first round.

555
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: It's a hip, yeah, and it's been a recurring hip.

556
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: Right for a position that's always looking.

557
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: He may not be on some team's draft boards.

558
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: He could be one guy that goes to the fifth

559
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: round and be like, yeah, get surgery again. I mean

560
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: it's I hate that that happens, but it's a rough sport.

561
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

562
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: I like Amos, Yeah, No, he's good player, Yeah, good player.

563
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean we've talked a little bit about Caleb Ransaw

564
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: out of Tallane. You know, he's another one of these

565
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: guys that at least he's clean. Yeah, at least he's

566
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: not hurt. And he's five to eleven one ninety seven,

567
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: so he's got, you know, the adequate size ran A

568
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: four to three three.

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Speaker 3: There's some dudes that can fly. Yeah. I mean Porter

570
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: to me is a really interesting one, Darrian Porters because

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: in size and he's only been a corner for a year, right,

572
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: but he was a great special teamer. I mean he's

573
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: Joey Porter.

574
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Si Dorian Strong's kind of the same way at Viginia Tech.

575
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: Like they're almost the same player, height, weight, all that stuff.

576
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: And then you know.

577
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: We mentioned before we hit record for the segment. I

578
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: don't know if the Steelers will take one, and I

579
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: kind of Lean. I think you do too.

580
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Probably not, that might be next one of the next

581
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: year's yeah tasks, just because you don't know if you're

582
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: gonna end up with a next or we just go

583
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: find another guy. Yeah, but it would be great to

584
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: develop Porter behind Sleigh and not ask him a thing

585
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: this year yea. Or you know one of those guys

586
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: hasn't played corner a lot. I don't know if you

587
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: have that luxury this year almost with the cornerback position.

588
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Joey Porter is gonna be going into year three next year,

589
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Jr. Is taking that guy? Now? Is that

590
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: still too close.

591
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: A little bit? Especially if you're not gonna get it?

592
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not gonna be out Sleigh. Yeah.

593
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: I'd like it maybe to be four years difference between

594
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: them two guys now that when the contracts are coming up,

595
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: you're you're a little more spaced out.

596
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: And let's say Slag gets hurt. Could this guy beat

597
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: out Echols and Trice? I mean, even if a spot

598
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: would open, Probably not. I don't know that you can

599
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: be that advanced thinking with the second round pick, third

600
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Speaker 3: round pick, sixth round pick. Sure the Ets got sa dude,

601
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: that's that's a that's definite. That's a late round, right,

602
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: that's just all traits Frasiers. Yeah, I mean there are

603
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: all traits. If he hasn't played all four of this year,

604
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: you might be thrilled a year from that. Yeah, that

605
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: makes sense to me. But not top three rounds.

606
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good cornerback class, I don't. I mean,

607
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: if you take Travis Hunter out of the equation, right,

608
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's fine. It's Will Johnson's appealing as he

609
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: was one year ago. I mean even at the top.

610
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Now he may change it. He may go out and

611
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: he has his pro day a few days before or

612
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: not his his special workout, I should say.

613
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, an interesting conversation today about I'm curious what you

614
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: think is could he get back in the mix for

615
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Jacksonville or the Raiders at five and six? They both

616
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: could use him. He's in a huge way and he's

617
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: very much a Pete Carroll type corner Yeah.

618
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch the tape from two years ago,

619
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: it's great, it's great, great.

620
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: Like one of the best players in the country on

621
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Speaker 3: national title.

622
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: But this past season he was dealing with injuries, the

623
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: team wasn't as good.

624
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't think the motivation was as high across the board. Yeah,

625
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: I mean Harbaugh moved on looking into some business decisions.

626
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying he's soft or anything like that,

627
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: but I don't know that he's super fast. I like

628
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: him a lot.

629
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Speaker 2: But if he goes out and runs and is let's

630
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: say he goes to his pro day and or his

631
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: private workout runs a four four five.

632
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: See, that was kind of my point, like what could

633
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: he do in the in the coming days.

634
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: To make me get in and you know, running and cutting.

635
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: He's got to look smooth running and cutting. I'm sure

636
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: he does that well.

637
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: I could see him all of a sudden a week

638
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: from now, he's popping up in Mark's going six, you know,

639
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: going five, top ten. Maybe he's clearly the non hunter corner.

640
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: To me, He's got there's there's.

641
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: He and Malachi Starks have some similarities in that, like

642
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: what Malachai Starks goes to the combine and didn't run

643
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: a you know, it wasn't blazing, wasn't a four to four.

644
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: But he's a four or five guy and all he

645
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: does is make plays.

646
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: And he does that getting false steps. Yeah, and even

647
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: like Starks, all the GPS stuff and the drills. Yeah,

648
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: he was the fastest ye like he does a football

649
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: on the fields. Maybe he's not a great sprinter, yeah.

650
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: He but he's just he knows where he's supposed to

651
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: be at and he knows how to get there.

652
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he played in Michigan in Georgia too. Yeah,

653
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: won a lot of games, and they're big reasons why

654
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: they want a lot of Yeah.

655
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Now we mentioned zofh. Frasier out of Texas San Antonio.

656
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: He's kind of one of the sleepers or one of

657
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: these guys in every draft. Yeah, in recent years. One

658
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: of these guys he's like six to two runs a

659
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: four sub four four forty and you're like, why is

660
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: he still at this little school?

661
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

662
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the question that I have about guys

663
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: like that, or or Bill Alcone from from Western Michigan.

664
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: We're in the nil era.

665
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: It's not like back in the day when I was

666
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: with Lee Bond at Ducune.

667
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: But those guys don't stay there now. Now these guys

668
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: move on. Somebody comes in and offers them a bag

669
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: of money. Now, if they stayed because they're close to home,

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: sure or they you know, know, these guys were the

671
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: guys who found me. That's great, that's great, right, that's fantastic,

672
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: But I do like to know the answer. I'd like

673
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: to know that answer. You know, it'll be something maybe

674
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: we'll find out from the Beast when it.

675
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: Comes out for the background and that type of thing,

676
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: which is coming pretty soon.

677
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: It should be. It's usually out April first. Yeah, So

678
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: anybody you like beyond some of those higher level guys.

679
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: L s U and Louisville I both think are decent players.

680
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Quincy Rally at Lousville.

681
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they what's his name at l s U? I

682
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: think is also Zizi Alexander. He throws his body around,

683
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: he's tough. I think the Steelers would like him. And

684
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm talking four fifth round. Yeah, guys, you know, there's

685
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of that gold to be mined,

686
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: I think from this class. But we mentioned a couple

687
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: of days ago, just ranking the positions in the draft,

688
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: this would be a C plus, you know, like this

689
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: would be great sixth or seventh best position. I mean

690
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: it's not loaded. Yeah, there's not a lot of guys

691
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: like Oh, I can't believe he's still there in the

692
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: sixth When we do mocks and things like that.

693
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Again, like when we're when we're doing we just did

694
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: that mock, and like Elijah Hussy, Upton Stout, you know,

695
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Smith, Guys like that at out of USC, Jason

696
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: Marshall out of like the slot guys aren't as high

697
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: on on some of the lists that you see because

698
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: they're common. Yeah, little, right, they're little, but you know

699
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: they make like Upton Stout makes plays.

700
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: And Stout I think clearly the best of that group.

701
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes people listen him to safety. I don't

702
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: think that's really what he is, but he makes a

703
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: lot of plays. Certainly, if they hadn't signed Echos, I

704
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: probably would have taken him in the fifth round or

705
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: something some of those drafts. But Eckles is a solid

706
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: pro that can do a lot of things for you,

707
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: seventh rounder for any of those great right, as you

708
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: mentioned during the mock, you want to spend a little

709
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: extra on an undrafted free agent in a Beanie Bishop

710
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: sort of ways to come in Beanie Bishop might be,

711
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 3: it might be a gunner, he might be, you know whatever,

712
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: and get him in the mix. Yeah, I'm all for it.

713
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: I'd love that. Another minimal investment slot defender.

714
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't. They just don't last long. He

715
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: still hasn't been signed. There's a reason for that. Like

716
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: those guys I peop don't think about the beating. They

717
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: they have a shelf life.

718
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the reasons teams prefer bigger

719
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: slots now, because I'm just gonna run Dereck Henry at

720
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: your little slot corner or I'm gonna pull guards at him.

721
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: He's one hundred and eighty pounds and he's going to

722
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: be taken on a two hundred and fifty pounds running back.

723
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: He's by far the smallest human being near the ball. Yeah.

724
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: It's a dangerous places happen there, right, and these offensive

725
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: coordinators don't care one bit. No, no, you're gonna get

726
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: a big back coming right at you, or a full

727
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: back or a tight end or whatever, maybe card in motion. Yeah, yikes, right,

728
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: that's that fine, right, tight ends, right, Darneld Washington coming

729
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: at Beanie Bishop. Yeah, you better be tough. Yeah, it's

730
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: easy to get injured too. Yeah. A lot of those

731
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: guys don't get second contracts, let alone thirds. You know,

732
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: Elton's trying to get third.

733
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's it's an interesting position just because

734
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: of all the injury stuff at the top of it. Yeah,

735
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these guys just have something.

736
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: You know he has again, Will Johnson goes from having

737
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: a toad and they'll dealing with the ham stringing.

738
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Even the position in general, I mean, the best

739
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: guys can be a little up and down year to years.

740
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, I'm sure certain will be fine

741
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: for years.

742
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: But people are complaining about Porter like, well he did.

743
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: He wasn't as good as he was his rookie year.

744
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: He was fine. Yeah, you know, that's the cornerback position.

745
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: That's a little inconsistent. It's a reactive position to you

746
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: give up.

747
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: You ask, the difference between giving up a catch and

748
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: not giving up a catch is often less than half

749
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: an inch. And if you break that up, it's, oh,

750
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: what a great play. If you give the catch up,

751
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I can't believe you gave that catch up.

752
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, the quarterback puts in an exact

753
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: you know, perfect spot, or is a little off. It's

754
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: a better play. And again we I think we started

755
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: the show by talking about team and scheme and fit.

756
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 3: Corner is big for that too. Yeah, I mean, don't

757
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: ask an off of it might be the biggest Yeah,

758
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: variance of any position. And again I had the corner

759
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: conversation earlier. It's so hard to find pressman coverage raps

760
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: too at the college level. I mean it's just it's

761
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 3: always has been, but as hard as ever.

762
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're prejetuate everybody's doing, you know, everybody's in their

763
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: spread offense and just you know.

764
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: We're going to tackle the catch and bubble screens and

765
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: it's such a different game.

766
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

767
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

768
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

769
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back with more right

770
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: after this.

771
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

772
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

773
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

774
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

775
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt, we haven't talked about this

776
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: particular gentleman. Florida had its pro day, I know you're

777
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: talking about and Desmond Watson weighed in at four hundred

778
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: and sixty four pounds at six foot six, that's a

779
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: large mammal.

780
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

781
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now if you watched any Florida football last year,

782
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: it was hard to miss him.

783
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you notice him.

784
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of kind of noticeable because.

785
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: One hundred pounds every and everybody else sometimes two hundred

786
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: pounds everything. Yeah.

787
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Right, is he too big to play in the NFL?

788
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: I would have to actually watch him, but I immediately

789
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: say yes. I mean, like, can he not? The stamina

790
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: maybe gives you. We've talked about, you know, Walker from

791
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: uh Kentucky and had some mcclor mccullor's vibes. I think

792
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: we both think he's better than that. And one out

793
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: of six or seven reps, you go, whoa, But can

794
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: you do two in a row? Three in a row?

795
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: Or they team gets you on the field and now

796
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: they're going to hurry up, and yeah you're out there.

797
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: The media's five six straight plays in a row and

798
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: you're you're doing nothing. You know, they're bringing out they're

799
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: bringing out the cardiac pat battles. Right, he won't get drafted, right, No,

800
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't think you think ends up in a camp.

801
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think somebody will take a shot.

802
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Probably unless like the team doctors, like we're afraid that

803
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: if he falls over on the field, we got to

804
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: pay his medical I mean, like Zach Frasier would like

805
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: blocking him for the trading camp. No, I think he'd

806
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: love it. I know I wouldn't, but most of the.

807
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Time ones wouldn't be a lot of fun. If well

808
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: rested one on one well and most of them are,

809
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: then sometimes we'll be like, you know, Mike, Tom will

810
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: go Okay, run it back. Yeah, yeah, I gotta do

811
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: that again.

812
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: Team drills. Yeah, he's just rolling around. I don't know.

813
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: It seems way too extreme for me.

814
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: He bench press two hundred twenty five pounds thirty six times, good,

815
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: so he's got plenty of strengths.

816
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's six six too.

817
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: I assume that the army's not short. Yeah, he's tall,

818
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: but the forty time was five point nine three seconds.

819
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: You think you can beat him? I do. It's a

820
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: pretty good case. Maybe it would be like with two

821
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: hundred pounds on your back. This is what I'm saying here,

822
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: five nine three yeah, and he's six six, like this

823
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: is some you know, right right right. He's pretty round though.

824
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: He's a big, big dude. He had a twenty five

825
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: inch vertical though. I mean he has some let right,

826
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: that's right. I mean think about that jumping getting almost

827
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: five hundred pounds twenty five inches into the air.

828
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: It's pretty insane.

829
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

830
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: I wonder I'm not like, I'll look at the beast,

831
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: like what did he what did he weigh in high school?

832
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: Is he added added added? Or they am sure?

833
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: Just that?

834
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: Is that just who he is from day one?

835
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty four pounds.

836
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't think I'm the first one

837
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: to suggest maybe losing weight. It's a good idea.

838
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: He's one hundred pounds heavier than Starks.

839
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: Right, right, I mean one, he's probably one hundred and

840
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds more than Casey Hampton Nex Starks is

841
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: like the biggest human being that most people will most

842
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: people will ever see. Right, And it's not even close,

843
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: not even close.

844
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: This dude's six sixty four the owner if he can't

845
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: have if he could play that, you know, that's one

846
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: thing again, but at the stamina is the thing that you.

847
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: It's not a one play situation. No, no, it's not

848
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: a first baseman that could come in and hit a

849
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: home run. And then stand up for d H or

850
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: whatever you play play after play. I mean, I can't

851
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: imagine him being effective. Maybe he's the tush push stopper

852
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: the Giants or Cowboys or Commanders should take them to

853
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: take them just for four plays a game. Bring him in,

854
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, just try to move him, make him. I

855
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: can't imagine, but I am interested in is like his

856
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: background was, Yeah? Is he trimmed down? Is he just inflating?

857
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: Obviously Florida's strengthen conditions. I mean, I can't think it's

858
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: a great idea.

859
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed they had pants that big. Right, that's

860
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: a big dude. That's a big dude.

861
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't at the combine? Was he was not?

862
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Which is a good sign that he's probably not going

863
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: to get right, Like three hundred some players.

864
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, majority of them get picked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Viittmeyer just send us. He attended Armwood High

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Speaker 2: School in Sefner, playing football, participating in the shot put.

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Speaker 2: His junior year, he weighed three hundred and seventy five pounds,

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Speaker 2: a number of than heavier than every defensive line in

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Speaker 2: the NFL at the time.

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Speaker 3: As a junior in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, three seventy five. Yeah, and he's added one

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Speaker 2: hundred pounds at Florida.

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Speaker 3: He's added one hundred pounds, so he's only going up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it. No, I don't see that happen.

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Speaker 2: But he would be the largest player ever drafted in

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Speaker 2: the NFL if he even he mister irrelevant there is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if he'd be the largest one to

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Speaker 3: ever get on the field in the regular season drafted.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't imagine not be Yeah, it's not like

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Speaker 2: he can't play. We're not saying he can't play. I've

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Speaker 2: watched tape of him. I've watched Florida last year. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: and again he jumps out. But again, I just don't

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Speaker 2: see it from snap to snap.

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Speaker 3: He's such an outlier. I don't know how you get

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Speaker 3: down that road bigger than like Andrea Giant.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna move him. No, but how much is

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Speaker 2: he gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Gonna run at him? Yeah, but I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: I can get anything down.

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Speaker 2: Not putting him out there against Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: No, again, any of all these guys are athletes. Zach

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Speaker 3: Fraser reach him in two seconds. Yeah, I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he even demands a double team probably not,

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Speaker 3: probably not. Maybe a snap here and there he gets

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Speaker 3: under you go around. That's he's an interesting fellow, though.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's worth talking about.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they should just call him.

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Speaker 3: We're definite as about it.

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Speaker 2: I should call him the traffic cone. I guess you

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Speaker 2: got to go around it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's another he's a Florida dude.

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Speaker 2: It starts. Didn't bring him up as a combine, and.

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Speaker 3: He's not staying on the table for him, I don't

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Speaker 3: think imagine they boasted on the table, poor table. But

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Speaker 3: we're definitely bringing this up on so oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: any chance whatsoever. Yeah, you know Max was watching them.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, absolutely, you know. Anyways, let's that's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for today's show. So we will be

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Speaker 2: back on Sunday, don't forget special edition of The Drive

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Speaker 2: on Sunday in West Palm Beach, Florida. Mike Tomlan expected

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Speaker 2: to talk earlier in the day. I would imagine he'll

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Speaker 2: get quite a few quarterback questions probably yeah, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see what he has to say about all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But for my partner, maybe for my partner, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site running the soundboard, and

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Speaker 2: for Tyler viitt Meyer, who does not get to go

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Speaker 2: to Florida with us, but does put up our video

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Speaker 2: on the YouTube and we appreciate that. Give us the

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Speaker 2: thumbs up there.

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Speaker 3: Check out the Greatest Hits one coming up to the.

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Speaker 2: Greatest Hits on Saturday. That's a new edition there, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of get you caught up on the week and

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Speaker 2: everything that we talked about. I am Dale, Lolly. We

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.