Speaker 1: What's someone who should probably not be allowed out in
Speaker 1: civil society? My Tucker Carlson, Cody Katie guests of Behind
Speaker 1: the Bastards. We've not done a bTB on Um on
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson Cody, you basically did. You had a massive
Speaker 1: some more news episode on the Guy. It's a big one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why is Tucker Carlson I believe? Yeah, but yeah, um
Speaker 1: yeah he's a guy man. Yeah. All I would say
Speaker 1: all you need to really know about Tucker Carlson aside
Speaker 1: from like the Swanson airship and all that kind of stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh, what his son Buckley? I think anyway, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, his letters to Yeah, I've never met a
Speaker 1: Buckley that we needed in the world. And also he
Speaker 1: doesn't shorten it to buck It's Buckley. Uh. Wrote a
Speaker 1: letter to Hunter Biden thanking him for like helping him
Speaker 1: his son getting too. Yeah, anyway, that's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Tucker facts. Um. When Tucker was working in print journalism, Uh,
Speaker 1: he was getting a he called it a takeout hot dog,
Speaker 1: Um is what he called it. My god. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know he's where he's literally wearing the bow ties he's
Speaker 1: writing this, I'm sure. Um, so you got to take
Speaker 1: out takeout Hot Dog? Yeh? Back off the people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And somebody in the office was basically saying, um uh,
Speaker 1: they need somebody to go on TV to talk about
Speaker 1: the OJ trial, that he'd an expert in the OJ trial,
Speaker 1: UM to go and talk about it, and their OJ
Speaker 1: expert can't do it? Um can you? And he was
Speaker 1: just like yes, um. And in the book he's like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the OJ trial, wasn't following
Speaker 1: it at all. I immediately said yes to get on TV,
Speaker 1: and then he did. And that's like the start of
Speaker 1: his career on television. And I think it's just so
Speaker 1: illustrative of like who he is and his like his
Speaker 1: entire career is just that moment of like, who's an
Speaker 1: OJ expert to go on TV? Oh, I am, I'll
Speaker 1: do it after getting a Takeout Hot Dog? You know
Speaker 1: I am. Years ago, for the nonfiction book, I wrote
Speaker 1: a brief history of ICE. I talked to one of
Speaker 1: the two guys who coined the Dunning Kruger effect, and
Speaker 1: I also talked to the author of a paper about
Speaker 1: I think the title of the paper was the Evolution
Speaker 1: of Overconfidence, and it was kind of it's part of
Speaker 1: this body of body of research is trying to answer
Speaker 1: the question. I think people are broadly familiar with the
Speaker 1: Dunning Kruger effect, which is a fairly durable finding a
Speaker 1: neuroscience that people who are least competent in given tasks
Speaker 1: tend to overestimate their own competence the most. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the briefest way of describing it. And so there's
Speaker 1: this question that people scientists in this field have, which
Speaker 1: is like why right, because it does it kind of
Speaker 1: seems if you're just kind of assuming on its surface
Speaker 1: that like it would be a bad, bad trade evolutionarily
Speaker 1: to be overconfident, because then you'll get yourself in situations
Speaker 1: you can't handle and you'll you'll die horrible, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: But like I guess it could be like psychologically protective it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's I don't know if that's enough. Right. There's
Speaker 1: the point that that was made to me as I
Speaker 1: was trying to like understand why this still exists, is
Speaker 1: that if you've got a resource that two different individuals
Speaker 1: are competing over right, and they're more or less evenly matched,
Speaker 1: or at least they can't know whether or not because right,
Speaker 1: if you're like standing next to a guy who wants
Speaker 1: to fight, who's roughly your's aye, you have no idea
Speaker 1: who's going to win or not, unless you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't. It's they're a black box, right, you don't
Speaker 1: know like who is who's better at fighting or whatever.
Speaker 1: Um So if you the the the individual that is
Speaker 1: more confident in their ability to take that resource, if
Speaker 1: they just go for it and grab it, one of
Speaker 1: two things will happen. Either the other individual will fight back,
Speaker 1: in which case they either win or lose the fight,
Speaker 1: or the other individual chooses not to fight and you
Speaker 1: get the resource. And statistically, that's a pretty good bet
Speaker 1: to make. Enough of the time that overconfidence is an
Speaker 1: extremely common trait, not just among human beings. And I
Speaker 1: think it's also interesting that like that is how fascism works, right,
Speaker 1: They just keep grabbing and until you fight back, they're
Speaker 1: just going to keep taking more and more, which is why,
Speaker 1: you know, we could talk about certain shootings that have
Speaker 1: occurred recently in the city of Portland, but I think
Speaker 1: that like fundamentally, Tucker is a perfect embodiment of that fact,
Speaker 1: both in his career where it's just like well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you just try to do shit that you're not
Speaker 1: competent to do, and you know, hope that you can
Speaker 1: bullshit your way through it, sometimes you will, and then
Speaker 1: you make tens of millions of dollars. And also if
Speaker 1: you just keep pushing further and further as a fascist
Speaker 1: and trying to incite more violence against your enemies and
Speaker 1: no one stops you, then you get everything you want.
Speaker 1: Which in yeah, it's literally fuck around and find out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like evil it is. It is really evil. It's
Speaker 1: interesting because we're I wonder what he's saying in his texts,
Speaker 1: you know, in twenty twenty three, Um, but in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty there's a degree of which you can see like
Speaker 1: fear in him of what he's doing, Like which makes
Speaker 1: sense help, Yeah, because he doesn't know if it's going
Speaker 1: to work out for him or not. Um, but it does.
Speaker 1: There's a degree to which I find it And maybe
Speaker 1: he's more confident now. I don't know. There's a degree
Speaker 1: to which I found a little bit of a a comforting
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, he knows he could lose, Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't actually know how this is going to work out,
Speaker 1: and he's he's second guessing himself and his his colleagues. Um,
Speaker 1: and and maybe that maybe that means that there's hope.
Speaker 1: Um maybe not. You know, it's twenty twenty three. It's
Speaker 1: necessarily yeah now yes, um so yeah. Um. At any rate, uh,
Speaker 1: we are back into the story of how Fox News
Speaker 1: handled the election. Lies Well about this document, it was well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well is a good way to describe it. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: while murders sorry, no, no, no. While Murdoch apparently went
Speaker 1: to pretty great lengths to curry favor with the Trump
Speaker 1: campaign during the election, he does not seem to have
Speaker 1: appeared to have wanted to push the stolen election line
Speaker 1: after November second. But within Fox News itself, Murdoch had
Speaker 1: a serious problem. He had hired a stable of hosts
Speaker 1: who were let's say, either crazy assholes or evil enough
Speaker 1: that all they cared about was their bottom line, and
Speaker 1: they saw this as the best way to do it.
Speaker 1: There's also a degree of like fear of Trump, that
Speaker 1: they all have internal discussion, and these people could not
Speaker 1: be entirely controlled. Right. Rupert Murdoch has a lot of power.
Speaker 1: He does not have absolute control over Sean Hannity or
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson or Judge Jennine or any of these other
Speaker 1: people because they were all multimillion dollar businesses, they have
Speaker 1: a lot of leverage, you know. Um, you know, wasn't
Speaker 1: it didn't Uh? Tucker Carlson at one point say on
Speaker 1: like some like radio show, he was Rubert Murdock's bitch.
Speaker 1: Wait did Yeah? Yeah that was more back in his
Speaker 1: shock days though, wasn't it right? Right? Right? Right now?
Speaker 1: He's like making it. Um, I just like that popped
Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah, yeah, I mean a little bit now,
Speaker 1: I mean because it definitely the the depiction you get
Speaker 1: from these internal coms is not one in which he's
Speaker 1: fully Murdock's bitch, although it's also one in which, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I was actually kind of
Speaker 1: surprised by how comparatively toothless it seems like Murdoch was
Speaker 1: maybe just because of how much Fox is a talent
Speaker 1: driven business. Um. But yeah, there's there's internal discussions that
Speaker 1: dominion posts that are between Fox executives that are just
Speaker 1: like this parade of worries, particularly that Sean Hannity is
Speaker 1: not like controllable. Yeah. Um, they went so far, and
Speaker 1: they did take some actions to try and mitigate this
Speaker 1: Judge Janine pierrot November seventh show was canceled because, as
Speaker 1: Fox executive David Clark said, her guests are all going
Speaker 1: to say the election is being stolen, and if she
Speaker 1: pushes back at all, it will just be token um
Speaker 1: and then it's like token dot dot dot, and then
Speaker 1: like two sentences are redacted. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck else they were saying about Judge. I know
Speaker 1: there's some tantalizing redactions here, and then we get to
Speaker 1: this lovely bit quote. As Fox producer Justin Wells described,
Speaker 1: they took her off because she was being crazy. Optics
Speaker 1: are bad, but she is crazy, So he's like, the
Speaker 1: optics of us questioning the election lies conspiracy theory are bad.
Speaker 1: But also this pitch is nuts. That situation you find
Speaker 1: when you hire people you know are inflammatory just to
Speaker 1: be inflammatory. It's Pandora's box. They've opened Pandora's box and
Speaker 1: they can No, they cannot. So these mild attempts at
Speaker 1: responsibility did not extend to letting the network call the
Speaker 1: election for Biden. First, they waited until all of the
Speaker 1: other networks had finished. Viewers revolted. Rupert Murdoch complained to
Speaker 1: Suzanne Scott that the company was quote getting creamed by CNN.
Speaker 1: Guess our viewers don't want to watch it now. This
Speaker 1: is the point at which Chucker Carlson, Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that funny. It's just like, yeah, they do the results
Speaker 1: that kind of sorry, yeah, um, it's it's it is remarkable.
Speaker 1: And at this point Tucker Carlson, who'd kind of started
Speaker 1: out on like broadly speaking team reason like angry at
Speaker 1: the election conspiracies, takes a turn. Carlson texted his producer,
Speaker 1: do the executives understand how much credibility and trust we've
Speaker 1: lost with our audience? We're playing with fire for real?
Speaker 1: An alternative like Newsmax could be devastating to us. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they know exactly. Yeah, yeah, they know exactly. Like the
Speaker 1: ship that they're in. Um yeah, they're in a bad
Speaker 1: way back Fond might overtake us. Yeah, um, it's very
Speaker 1: very funny. On November eighth, the day after the election
Speaker 1: was called, Maria bartar Romo had Sidney Powell on again
Speaker 1: to talk about Dominions software, which she alleged had an
Speaker 1: algorithm that had stolen the election from Trump. Bartar Roma
Speaker 1: knew ahead of time that Pale was going to spread
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories about the company because Powell had sent her
Speaker 1: a document the day before titled election fraud Info. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the core of all of the information about
Speaker 1: the Dominion and Smartmadock or whatever like this is this
Speaker 1: is the actual nut of data that Sidney Powell has
Speaker 1: that all of her claims are based on. Right. So
Speaker 1: basically everything that Fox is going to magnify about the
Speaker 1: election conspiracy comes from this document that Powell has been
Speaker 1: sent from an anonymous source titled election fraud Info. Now,
Speaker 1: for one thing, Powell describes the synonymous source as pretty whackadoodle,
Speaker 1: right like, and what does that mean exactly? I bet
Speaker 1: you're wondering what is from Sydney Powell the sentence or
Speaker 1: the statement pretty whackadoodle mean. Here's how the motion describes
Speaker 1: the election fraud Info document. In addition to promoting lies
Speaker 1: about Dominion, the cinder claimed that Justice Scalia was purposefully
Speaker 1: killed at the annual Bohemian Grove Camp during a week
Speaker 1: long human hunting expedition, and that former Fox News CEO
Speaker 1: Roger Ales, who died in twenty seventeen, and Rupert Murdoch
Speaker 1: secretly huddle most days to determine how best to portray
Speaker 1: mister Trump as badly as possible. The author continued, Who
Speaker 1: am I and how do I know all of this?
Speaker 1: I had the strangest dream since I was a little girl.
Speaker 1: I was internally decapitated. Oh, Cody, you gotta hear this.
Speaker 1: I was internally decapitated and yet I live. The wind
Speaker 1: tells me I'm a ghost, but I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: What right? You don't believe it? This is the source? Yea,
Speaker 1: this is This is the source that three or four
Speaker 1: billion dollars in loss suits are based around. Now. At
Speaker 1: another point in this email, this anonymous source claims to
Speaker 1: be able to quote time travel in a semi conscious state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is also I think that just means dreaming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is fucking incredible, like to know where it all
Speaker 1: comes to. It's not even Sydney making stuff up or
Speaker 1: just pretending to be a black box. She shares this
Speaker 1: email with Fox hosts right so that she can inform
Speaker 1: them what she's going to bring up, so they know
Speaker 1: that the source of a lot of these election claims
Speaker 1: is an internally decapitated woman who the wind tells us
Speaker 1: a ghost and can time travel in a semiconscious state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a semiconscious state. Very impressive, Yeah, very interesting info. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cody, I don't think any of your sources
Speaker 1: can time travel in a semiconscious state. So she includes
Speaker 1: all this in her resume and cover letters. Job, I'm
Speaker 1: travel in a semiconta state. Um. Interestingly, our friend David
Speaker 1: Bell puts that on his resume as well, So you
Speaker 1: know that's true. That is true. He can wondering what
Speaker 1: I did David Bell write? Does letter? No, he was
Speaker 1: never internally decapitated. That's right, that's right. He would have
Speaker 1: shared that. No, he sends me a cat scan of
Speaker 1: his neck every single week, so I can I can
Speaker 1: confirm he has not been internally decapitated. Um so Barter remo, Jesus,
Speaker 1: what a stupid last name was aware of the email
Speaker 1: and stated in her deposition that she knew that it
Speaker 1: was nonsense, but at no point on air did she
Speaker 1: mention that this email was the source of Powell's claims
Speaker 1: about Dominion, which had aired on Fox to millions of viewers.
Speaker 1: As Tucker Carlson texted that night, the software shit is absurd.
Speaker 1: Half our viewers have seen the Maria clip and yeah,
Speaker 1: not wrong. Yeah, it's the most interesting stuff in here
Speaker 1: to me is this behind the scenes glimpse and how
Speaker 1: Tucker communicates when he thinks he has a reasonable expectation
Speaker 1: of privacy, because he seems equally preoccupied with how dumb
Speaker 1: the conspiracy is, as he is with lambasting his colleagues
Speaker 1: for not adequately furthering the conspiracy theory. Right, Like, he's
Speaker 1: pissed about both. He's angry that this conspiracy's taking off,
Speaker 1: and he's even angrier when his colleagues don't back it
Speaker 1: up on the air. Um, what a weird position for
Speaker 1: a giant asshole to be in. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: his position, though, wouldn't it. Yeah, of course, because there's
Speaker 1: no personal responsibility. There's nothing like be angry about everybody
Speaker 1: the options but yeah, there are no what are the
Speaker 1: options breaks on this ride he's on. It's just he
Speaker 1: wants the drivers to guide it a little better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's he's definitely not stopping. On November ninth, Carlson
Speaker 1: told Suzanne Scott Fox, his CEO direct I've never seen
Speaker 1: a reaction like this to any media company. Kills me
Speaker 1: to watch it. Scott took that message down the line,
Speaker 1: attacking her colleagues for having the arrogance to call Arizona.
Speaker 1: She expressed that it was astonishing that a top executive
Speaker 1: had signed off on the Arizona call, given that every
Speaker 1: executive's first job was to quote protect the brand. Oh
Speaker 1: that's their first job. Oh yeah, it's sheer shit, not
Speaker 1: reporting the news, Katie. No, no, it definitely isn't that.
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue from the motion. And on that day,
Speaker 1: day one, as Scott termed it, Fox executives made an
Speaker 1: explicit decision to push narratives to entice their audience back.
Speaker 1: Scott and Lackland Murdoch exchanged texts about the plan going forward. Scott,
Speaker 1: viewers going through the five stages of grief. It's a
Speaker 1: question of trust. The Azy call was damaged. But we
Speaker 1: will highlight our stars and plant flags letting the viewers
Speaker 1: know we hear them and respect them. Murdoch, Yes, but
Speaker 1: needs constant rebuilding without any missteps. Scott. Yes, today is
Speaker 1: day one and it's a process souces. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that respecting their audience means embracing the lie their audience,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, yeahf the lie. Maybe we've got to respect
Speaker 1: our audience so funny. I think that one of the
Speaker 1: things I find really compelling here is that like the
Speaker 1: most honest any of them seems is when they are
Speaker 1: distraught that the audience is losing trust in them. And
Speaker 1: so it's like, I think they do feel bad that
Speaker 1: they didn't embrace the audiences insane conspiracy enough that like, oh,
Speaker 1: we let them down. They expected us to be as
Speaker 1: batshit as they are and we really fell down on
Speaker 1: the job there. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, feeling upset
Speaker 1: that they can't that they're in this situation and they can't. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that they that they failed their audience should have gone
Speaker 1: in harder. I think at the outset it's embarrassing to
Speaker 1: let your right. Now, we should have been dumber and faster.
Speaker 1: I do say that a lot myself. But you know
Speaker 1: who's as dumb and as fast as it's possible to be?
Speaker 1: Sponsors are Sponsors? They are They are as they are
Speaker 1: as fast as I don't know how to finish that
Speaker 1: sentence anyway, here's our fucking ads. Ah, we are back.
Speaker 1: On November ninth, Neil Cavuto cut away from a White
Speaker 1: House press conference where Kaylee McKinney made unsubstantiated claims about
Speaker 1: election fraud. Neil told viewers that he could not in
Speaker 1: good conscience air her claims unless she had evidence to
Speaker 1: back them up, which is honestly more of a principled
Speaker 1: stand than I think any of us ever expected from
Speaker 1: Neil Cavuto. Absolutely surprising, yeah, shocking. The brand team at
Speaker 1: Fox panicked. Raj Shaw, who headed the brand team, notified
Speaker 1: senior leadership at Cavo represented a brand threat. Tighten. With
Speaker 1: all this and with Cucker's reaction, was an ever present
Speaker 1: fear of Newsmax's built over into the course of November.
Speaker 1: Fox exec and talent seemed to see Newsmax as a
Speaker 1: mortal threat to their continued profitability, Which is funny because
Speaker 1: didn't it just get dropped from like, uh, what is it? Um?
Speaker 1: Was it Newsmax or the one News? Yeah? Direct Tv?
Speaker 1: Direct Tv just dropped Newsmax because it didn't get enough
Speaker 1: people watching it. It's interesting, so yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: Fox was. I don't know, it may it may have
Speaker 1: just been that, like in the moment, Newsmax was experiencing
Speaker 1: a surge, but it clearly didn't last. They're not doing
Speaker 1: well right now, which is very funny. Also fuck all
Speaker 1: of those people. Quote. Prior to November eight, Fox executive
Speaker 1: David Clark testified that Newsmax was not a credible media
Speaker 1: outlet because quote, their hosts were extremely one sided, ignored
Speaker 1: the facts, they did not seem to care about telling
Speaker 1: the truth. They seem to invest truly in conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: versus fact. Yeah, I mean that'll do it. Wow. Imagine
Speaker 1: a news agency being like that. David fucked up. Huh.
Speaker 1: On November tenth, Scott pointed out to senior Fox executives
Speaker 1: a note from analyst Kyl Goodwin on Newsmax's ride. Fox
Speaker 1: executive Porter Berry responded, just pulled up Newsmax's show and
Speaker 1: they're heading cavudo. They're just whacking us. Smart on their part.
Speaker 1: Lauren Peterson added, they definitely have a strategy across all
Speaker 1: shows to try and target and steal our viewers. And
Speaker 1: this is also really compelling to me just because like
Speaker 1: at number one, obviously, at no point is even ideology
Speaker 1: a primary concern. Like the concern is the competition, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's pure, it's pure business, And there's almost
Speaker 1: this like I can respect the degree to which they're
Speaker 1: good at fucking us over. Yeah, we would do that too.
Speaker 1: We would do that too, and it's a shame to
Speaker 1: us that we weren't smart enough to do it. Master right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: m Fox executives talk about Newsmax. They're way the rest
Speaker 1: of us talk about Fox, which is one of the
Speaker 1: most entertaining things in the document. Fox president Jay Wallace
Speaker 1: describes Newsmax as truly an alternative universe that can't be ignored.
Speaker 1: He then adds in a message to Suzanne Scott that
Speaker 1: he is trying to get everyone to comprehend we are
Speaker 1: on war footing. And again that's also from the point
Speaker 1: I'm making about, like ideology doesn't seem to come into
Speaker 1: it with these people. They're not at war with the Biden,
Speaker 1: White House or Democrats. They're at war with other right
Speaker 1: wing media that might steal their thunder. Yeah, who's yeah
Speaker 1: out Fox using them. It's very very interesting. Yeah, Foxing,
Speaker 1: I'm proud. I'm proud, proud of you, Cody. You know what,
Speaker 1: Let's get on a call with the T shirt people
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, let's let's get them on one of those.
Speaker 1: So the T shirt people, the people. Everything that Fox
Speaker 1: does next is influenced by this feeling of being at
Speaker 1: war with New Max. This is what causes Tucker to
Speaker 1: make common cause with Sean Hannity in order to push
Speaker 1: the false claim that Dominion was the core of some
Speaker 1: grand fraud. The express purpose of backing this conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: was to bring viewers back from Newsmax. Quote Hannity told
Speaker 1: Carlson and Ingraham on November twelfth, in one week, in
Speaker 1: one debate, they destroyed a brand that took twenty five
Speaker 1: years to build, and the damage is incalculable. Tucker responded,
Speaker 1: it's vandalism. The hosts also discussed the possibility of competition
Speaker 1: to Fox emerging. Hannity told them serious money with serious
Speaker 1: distribution could be a real problem. I mho they need
Speaker 1: to address. But what I don't know, Tucker, that could happen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, feel that fear, Yeah, feel that, feel that fear.
Speaker 1: It is nice to know that he can be afraid.
Speaker 1: It's a little brain bug moment there, putting your hand
Speaker 1: on the goop stick that Tucker Carlson uses to suck
Speaker 1: the brains out of your aunts and uncles. Yeah, it's afraid.
Speaker 1: It's afraid. Normally, normally I feel um a little bit
Speaker 1: of empathy when an unlikable character when you realize that
Speaker 1: you know, they're afraid that you know, humanize them. No,
Speaker 1: not this guy be afraid. I would not feel empathy
Speaker 1: if Tucker Carlson's asshole got sucked out of his backside
Speaker 1: by one of those one of those sucker things in
Speaker 1: a swimming pool, in a grain silo or something, yea,
Speaker 1: or a grain silo. Yeah, let's let's grain silo. The fucker.
Speaker 1: Um did you guys grow up with that? That like
Speaker 1: that at your local pool? That there was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all their guts sucked up and then like a pollenux
Speaker 1: short story, right, I think ended up doing a short
Speaker 1: story about that urban legend, which if anyone ever yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely say, Cody, if there's a short story
Speaker 1: about getting your guts sucked out of your butt through
Speaker 1: a swimming pool, chuck pals, Actually yeah, yeah, beautiful. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna read it now. Okay, But for the record, I
Speaker 1: would think it was funny if that happened to Tucker,
Speaker 1: So yeah. That same day, Laura Ingram's producer Tommy Firth,
Speaker 1: texted a Fox executive responsible for overseeing her show. He complained,
Speaker 1: this dominion ship is going to give me a fucking aneurysm.
Speaker 1: As many times as I've told Laura it's bs, she
Speaker 1: sees shit posters and Trump tweeting about it. The next
Speaker 1: sentence or so was redacted, but the Fox executive response,
Speaker 1: this is the Bill Gates microchip angle to voter fraud.
Speaker 1: The next day he messages Firth again asking how's it
Speaker 1: going with the kooks? So they're both being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Laura's you know, she's watching these ship posters. She's tweeting
Speaker 1: about nonsense. But the executives like, yeah, you know, this
Speaker 1: is something we can work with. It's this Bill Gates
Speaker 1: microchip angle, but applied to work. Yeah, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Are the crazy people biting? Feels you're not done telling
Speaker 1: this story? But this all feels really damning, it does.
Speaker 1: It feels like people should be locked up, Like we're
Speaker 1: we're we're we have fun, we make our jokes, but like, honestly,
Speaker 1: the real life repercussions of this ship families destroyed. People
Speaker 1: kill themselves over this. There was just another like suicide
Speaker 1: of an entire family over this shit, Like this is
Speaker 1: destroyed so many lives, Like I don't know these people,
Speaker 1: Like the money is not enough I don't see on
Speaker 1: a moral level, I don't see any argument as to
Speaker 1: why a lot of this shouldn't be criminally liable. But
Speaker 1: none of it is obviously or ever will be. Um
Speaker 1: because it's fine to do this. It's not fine to like,
Speaker 1: yell at the Atlanta police after they shoot a guy,
Speaker 1: then you get charged with domestic terrorism. But this is cool. Um. Yeah. So.
Speaker 1: Also on November twelve, lou Dobbs took to the airways
Speaker 1: with Rudy Giuliani as guest. After Giuliani repeated his litany
Speaker 1: of false allegations against Dominion, Dobbs said on air, it's stunning.
Speaker 1: They have no ability to audit meaningfully the votes that
Speaker 1: are the votes that are cast because the servers are
Speaker 1: somewhere else. This looks to me like it is the
Speaker 1: end game to a four and a half year long
Speaker 1: effort to overthrow the president of the United States. While
Speaker 1: Dobbs dug that hole deeper, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, who are in a group text thread together,
Speaker 1: and boy, that sounds like the worst group that want that.
Speaker 1: I want to say it all every breaking news story
Speaker 1: that happens. I want to see just everything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on that thread in any way. Oh God,
Speaker 1: I would love to read it for sure. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'd like to be on there be like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you know it's Friday. I got some beers, the liver
Speaker 1: of a child that was drowned to death and Amaretto.
Speaker 1: You guys want to come over, you know, have some bruise,
Speaker 1: eat a little bit. Um. I assume. I assume when
Speaker 1: Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson hang out together,
Speaker 1: they eat like the human equivalent of an ortolan. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the omni thing that they don't even hide
Speaker 1: their shame from God though Tucker Nosey's more powerful. Um
Speaker 1: so yeah, while Dobbs dug that hole deeper. Laura Ingram,
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson are in their group chat
Speaker 1: and Carlson shares a tweet by Fox reporter Jackie Heinrich.
Speaker 1: And Jackie was one of the like three or four
Speaker 1: people at Fox who had a shred of integrity and
Speaker 1: she was she fact Trump tweeted about dominion like sharing
Speaker 1: this Sydney Powell conspiracy and Jackie Heinrich fact checked it.
Speaker 1: She noted there is no evidence that any voting system
Speaker 1: deleted or lost votes. Carlson shares this and tells Hannity
Speaker 1: please get her fired. Seriously, what the fuck? I'm actually shocked.
Speaker 1: It needs to stop immediately, like tonight, it's measurably hurting
Speaker 1: the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke.
Speaker 1: Tucker then adds, I just went crazy on me to
Speaker 1: over it. Hannity responds that he had already sent to
Speaker 1: Suzanne with a really. He then added, I'm three strikes
Speaker 1: Wallace shit debate election night of disaster now this BS Nope,
Speaker 1: not gonna fly. Did I mention Cavudo? They're so pissed,
Speaker 1: They're so pissed. Yeah, it does feel good a little bit.
Speaker 1: I can so see him. M yeah now, Hannity and
Speaker 1: next text Suzanne Scott, who reached out to Fox's SVP
Speaker 1: of Corporate Communications, Irena Briganti. Quote Sean texted me he's
Speaker 1: standing down on responding, but not happy about this and
Speaker 1: doesn't understand how this is allowed to happen from anyone
Speaker 1: in news. She Heinrich has serious nerve doing this, and
Speaker 1: if it gets picked up, viewers are going to be
Speaker 1: further disgusted. By the next morning, Heinrich had deleted her
Speaker 1: fact checking tweet, So I guess look again, you know,
Speaker 1: Heinrich had a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 1: what do you what do you say, courage or whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not so much that when her bosses yelled at her,
Speaker 1: she doesn't shows Yeah, yeah, texts. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: one thing you could take from that is that, like,
Speaker 1: if you get caught telling the truth in right wing media,
Speaker 1: there's not like a job open for you in normal media,
Speaker 1: whereas if you get caught lying in mainstream media, there's
Speaker 1: a job for you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I was putting
Speaker 1: myself trying to put myself in that position, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see how you get intimidated. I would like
Speaker 1: to think I wouldn't because I would make those series
Speaker 1: of choices where I was working at this place. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, there's this term you here
Speaker 1: because of Hannah or Rent, the banality of evil, and
Speaker 1: she was talking about like Holocaust perpetrators, but it gets
Speaker 1: used a lot. I think it. I prefer to think
Speaker 1: of things a little differently, which is that like, it's
Speaker 1: not that evil has banal. It's that the vast majority
Speaker 1: of evil is perpetuated so that people can pay their
Speaker 1: mortgage like that, and that's what that's what's going on here,
Speaker 1: and that's even what's going on with like like Tucker
Speaker 1: doesn't have a mortgage or whatever, but it's it's very
Speaker 1: much just about the bottom line, right, Like if the
Speaker 1: money for Tucker had been in being a liberal or
Speaker 1: left wing media personality, he would have been just as
Speaker 1: fine doing that. He doesn't care. Like, Yeah, while this
Speaker 1: is going on, Dominion representatives are frantically contacting Fox News
Speaker 1: to try and correct these false allegations. In the first
Speaker 1: like two months that followed the election, they send thirty
Speaker 1: six hundred messages to Fox representatives. Fox executive David Clark
Speaker 1: tells a colleague on November fourteenth, I have it tattooed
Speaker 1: on my body at this point, l ol. Super aware
Speaker 1: that we're we're lying criminally about a corporation LMAO. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope they don't sue us for one point six
Speaker 1: billion dollars kiss f Yeah. One fun thing I learned
Speaker 1: reading this is that Fox does in fact have its
Speaker 1: own fact checking department. Now that's an astonishing thing to hear.
Speaker 1: If you have watched a lot of Fox News, you
Speaker 1: a note they call themselves fucking losers. No, no, what
Speaker 1: the brain rooms? But oh no, goodness room Yeah, incredible
Speaker 1: love it. What what facts are they checking? They'll check
Speaker 1: the facts so that they know, Katie report the opposite.
Speaker 1: I would love to answer that question for you. But
Speaker 1: as soon as the motion notes that Fox's fact checking
Speaker 1: department is called the brain room, the next two full
Speaker 1: paragraphs are redacted. Why again, there's some there's some juicy
Speaker 1: shit that's black barred in this. It's the funniest place
Speaker 1: to put redaction. It's it's it's really there is a
Speaker 1: degree of comedic timing from some of these dominion lawyers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of it's like intriguing something. Well, I wonder what
Speaker 1: you're saying there. It's like, no, no no, no, the brain
Speaker 1: room is the brain room. Yeah, we can't talk about
Speaker 1: what happens in the brain room. So immediately after in
Speaker 1: the brain room, So immediately after those two full paragraphs
Speaker 1: of redaction comes this paragraph. Fox continued to broadcast its
Speaker 1: lies about dominion as it nervously eyed Newsmax, and in
Speaker 1: November sixteenth email, Rupert Murdoch told Scott to read a
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal piece about Newsmax, telling her these people
Speaker 1: should be watched if skeptically. Trump will concede eventually, and
Speaker 1: we should concentrate on Georgia helping any way we can.
Speaker 1: We don't want to antagonize Trump further. But Giuliani taken
Speaker 1: with a large grain of salt. Everything at stake here,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. Um, yeah, what a hard time. So
Speaker 1: the paragraph that follows this is also redacted, and immediately
Speaker 1: after all that redaction comes this line. Carlson told his
Speaker 1: producer Alex Feiffer that night, Sidney Powell is lying, fucking bitch.
Speaker 1: It's so good, struggling, having a rough one out, buddy,
Speaker 1: letting it out. He continues to complain about this regularly
Speaker 1: up to November eighteenth, when he tells Laura Ingram that
Speaker 1: Powell is crazy, and Ingram responds, Sydney is a complete nut.
Speaker 1: No one will work with her. Ditto Rudy Carlson response,
Speaker 1: holy shit, check this out. Carlson response, it's unbelievably offensive
Speaker 1: to me. Our viewers are good people, and they believe it.
Speaker 1: Why do they believe it? Why do they believe it?
Speaker 1: People believe it let's take it a step further. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so there's almost like a schizophrenic quality to reading
Speaker 1: through this, because there's this mix of like Carlson responding
Speaker 1: the way a regular person should. This is unbelievably offensive
Speaker 1: up there, but also like you're doing it, Tucker, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so, it's like it's like, look what they're making
Speaker 1: me do kind of stuff, like, yeah, the situation I'm
Speaker 1: in and what I have to do because obviously, but
Speaker 1: I respect the audience so much. There's such good people,
Speaker 1: but I have to know they respect what the audience
Speaker 1: means for his bottom line. But again, it's this not
Speaker 1: surprising in any way, but you do an inability psychologically
Speaker 1: incapable of seeing any accountability. No, no, absolutely not nightmare
Speaker 1: to be married too, Tucker. You're doing it. You're doing it, yeah, Tucker.
Speaker 1: The lies have come from inside the you, inside you.
Speaker 1: This is this is entirely your fault, Tucker Carlson. But
Speaker 1: you know what's not What isn't Tucker Carlson's fault The
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Speaker 1: On November eighteenth, SVP of Primetime Programming and Analytics Run
Speaker 1: mitchell sends end message to underlings R E. Newsmax the
Speaker 1: lack of any meaningful editorial guidance may be a positive
Speaker 1: for them, at least in the short term. For example,
Speaker 1: last night on Stitchfield at eight pm, the show sourced
Speaker 1: websites like Gateway Pundit while talking about voter fraud. This
Speaker 1: type of conspiratorial reporting might be exactly what the disgruntled
Speaker 1: FNC Fox News Corporation viewers looking for. Mitchell concluded that
Speaker 1: viewers are watching less Fox News and suggested fixes do
Speaker 1: not ever give viewers a reason to turn us off.
Speaker 1: Every topic and guest must perform no unforced errors and content. Example,
Speaker 1: abruptly turning away from a Trump campaign press conference. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: keep fucking people's relatives up. So yeah, ruined bring down
Speaker 1: a society to its knees. It sure it suis so
Speaker 1: um yeah. Following this guidance, on November nineteenth, Fox broadcast
Speaker 1: the entirety of a press conference with Rudy Giuliani and
Speaker 1: Sydney Powell. Now, you guys probably all remember this as
Speaker 1: the press conference where Rudy's hair melted off of his face.
Speaker 1: I remember that, what an incredible moment for this country.
Speaker 1: Made up It's ai r. It was a lie. It
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I want to be like frozen so that
Speaker 1: a thousand years from now, I can help journalists make
Speaker 1: a documentary about America. And I want to cut straight
Speaker 1: from like the battlefield at Gettysburg, thousands of corpses, a
Speaker 1: nation fighting with its past in order to like finally right,
Speaker 1: like the evil at the center of its existence. And
Speaker 1: cut immediately from that to like Rudy Giuliani with his
Speaker 1: hair melting off, leaking, just leaking from his skull. Nothing
Speaker 1: else is important. We can cut the rest of American
Speaker 1: history between those moments, from Gettysburg to Sydney, Ball and Juliani,
Speaker 1: the two most pivotal points in American absolutely, no question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we might even be
Speaker 1: like morally obligated to have a little detour into four
Speaker 1: season's total landscaping. Um, okay, I'm gonna play a little
Speaker 1: segment from that from that clip because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people enjoyed Rudy's head melting, but I think
Speaker 1: fewer people actually, like, actually listen to some of the
Speaker 1: claims being made. Um, this is a particularly powerful moment
Speaker 1: from that press conference, and I'm gonna play it in
Speaker 1: just a second. Outrageous situation. Now, I don't think most
Speaker 1: Americans know, but our ballots get calculated, many of them
Speaker 1: outside the United States, completely open to hacking, completely open
Speaker 1: to change, and being done by a company that specializes
Speaker 1: in voter front back to you. He does not look well. Also,
Speaker 1: Sidney Powell is very tall and wearing a leopard Prince
Speaker 1: Real School. Interesting choice. What we are really feeling different?
Speaker 1: Uncovering more by the day massive influence of communist money
Speaker 1: inference are elections here in the United States, the dominion
Speaker 1: voting systems smart Maadic technology software, and the software that
Speaker 1: goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not
Speaker 1: just Dominion. We're created Vendezuela, at the direction of Hugo
Speaker 1: shaves to make sure he never lost an election. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's oh my god, I do love the way she
Speaker 1: says Venezuela too. Yeah yeah, uh. His the crude oil
Speaker 1: leaking from his brain really distracted from the things that
Speaker 1: she said, Yeah, which it should not have because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: could talk about it. Attack maybe his plan. Yeah, Rudy
Speaker 1: is much more cunning than we give him credit for.
Speaker 1: He has. You know, some species of lizards can shoot
Speaker 1: blood out of their eyes to like distracted attacker. Rudy
Speaker 1: is able to do that to the entire nagent with
Speaker 1: his head oil developed over millions of years himself, with
Speaker 1: the symbiote yea, do my little trick. This is how
Speaker 1: Rudy's Giuliani have managed to survive at the fringes of
Speaker 1: the world for the last sixty five million years since
Speaker 1: the death of the rest of their race. I consider
Speaker 1: Rudy to be the same species as the dinosaurs in
Speaker 1: the original Mario movie, you know, the one with Bob Hoskins.
Speaker 1: You could just put Rudy in that movie and he
Speaker 1: would He would out immediately the same way he wasn't
Speaker 1: in that movie. Not not entirely. So. While this beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful scene was unfolding, Rupert Murdoch sent out an email
Speaker 1: with the subject watching Juliani exclamation point. The text of
Speaker 1: that email real, really crazy stuff and damaging. If only
Speaker 1: you had the power to stop this, Rupert Murdoch. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's like watching a train crash. And also you have
Speaker 1: the superman likability to stop any object in motion with
Speaker 1: a moment's notice. It's probably problem, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: trolley problem. But you're god, Yeah, it's very footing. White
Speaker 1: House correspondent Kristin Fisher did at least fact check some
Speaker 1: of the claims made during this press conference. Her boss,
Speaker 1: Brian Boyton called her and told her emphatically that he
Speaker 1: and his bosses were unhappy with her and that she
Speaker 1: quote needed to do a better job of and this
Speaker 1: is a quote respecting our audience. Fisher texted a colleague
Speaker 1: about being punished for doing my job. Shortly thereafter real
Speaker 1: lions eating faces party moment. Oh no, I like that.
Speaker 1: This is their phrase. That's the way they're respecting our audience.
Speaker 1: In a week, Yeah, lie to our audience. It's very fun.
Speaker 1: It's also like you get these people at Kristin Fisher,
Speaker 1: who is like, well, it's good that you were doing
Speaker 1: your job as a journalist, but also like you did
Speaker 1: work at Fox, like you did choose to work there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't the first thing. Yeah, like a first questionable
Speaker 1: move that they Yeah, you didn't have a long career
Speaker 1: there without any kind of moral qualms. This is just
Speaker 1: like happened to be the time that there were a
Speaker 1: bunch of depositions. Maybe this is the only bad thing
Speaker 1: they've ever done. Maybe this is the only bad thing
Speaker 1: they've ever done. That's possible, we just can't know. So
Speaker 1: the fact that there was regular spirited resistance within Fox
Speaker 1: to the increasingly unhinged dominion conspiracy is very compelling to me.
Speaker 1: At one point, Fox anchored Dana Perino comments that Dominion
Speaker 1: would probably be able to sue over the comments made
Speaker 1: in that press conference. This prompt CEO Suzanne Scott to
Speaker 1: send an email saying, you can't give the crazies an
Speaker 1: inch right now. They are looking for and blowing up
Speaker 1: all appearances of disrespect to the audience. Scott separately noted,
Speaker 1: the audience feels like we crapped on them and we
Speaker 1: have damaged their trust and belief in us. We can
Speaker 1: fix this, but we cannot smirk at our viewers any longer.
Speaker 1: I'm not positive what is being argued for here. She's
Speaker 1: saying like, we can't give the crazies at Fox an
Speaker 1: inch right now. They're looking for any opportunity to like
Speaker 1: blow shit up. But also the audience feels like we're
Speaker 1: shitting on them when we correct this stuff, and that's
Speaker 1: damaged their trust, so we have to It's it's again
Speaker 1: every there, Yeah, exactly. It's this impossible situation because you're evil,
Speaker 1: Like you're evil, but you don't want to be choices
Speaker 1: and the scenario that you've created that you know is bad,
Speaker 1: but you also need in order to continue. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the crew of the Hindenburg got themselves into an
Speaker 1: impossible situation when they explode it. We don't want to explode,
Speaker 1: and yet this explosive thing. What a what A what
Speaker 1: an impossible situation? Respect the explosion. Yeah, we're not respecting
Speaker 1: the audience if we don't explode properly. Um, the audience
Speaker 1: being hydrogen So Internally, Fox executives like Ron Mitchell laughed
Speaker 1: at the clowns Rudy and Sidney who had put us
Speaker 1: in a terrible place. He even asked a colleague jokingly
Speaker 1: if Sidney was going to mention the quote international crime
Speaker 1: conspiracy to steal the election featuring Soros, Madiro Chavez, Antifa,
Speaker 1: Cuba and China. It's noted in the conversation that silly
Speaker 1: as these allegations are, if they put Fox in an
Speaker 1: awkward place where we're going to need to thread the needle,
Speaker 1: you're actually not in an awkward place. You don't have
Speaker 1: It's okay, you don't have to do this. Yeah, nobody's
Speaker 1: making you do this. Okay, you can help you make better.
Speaker 1: On November twentieth, Dominion sends Fox's general counsel a cease
Speaker 1: and desist. Internally, executives fretted over how reckless it was
Speaker 1: to keep giving Powell air, but she continued to guess
Speaker 1: regularly on Fox primetime shows, including Dobbs and Hannity that
Speaker 1: same day. This continued into December. On December second, Bill Samon,
Speaker 1: Fox's DC editor message to colleague, It's remarkable how weak
Speaker 1: ratings make good journalists do bad things. It's good stuff,
Speaker 1: good stuff. I might, yeah, I equipal with that, but
Speaker 1: by late November even some of the bad journalists at
Speaker 1: Fox were expressing a fear of where the recklessness might lead.
Speaker 1: Suzanne Scott said privately, I had a number of conversations
Speaker 1: with Sean where he wanted the president to accept the results,
Speaker 1: and Hannity had understood that Joe Biden legitimately won the
Speaker 1: election for some time. He admits this in his deposition too.
Speaker 1: On November nineteenth, after the Giuliani Powell press conference, Carlson
Speaker 1: very carefully tried to thread his own needle. On one hand,
Speaker 1: he said publicly on his show that what Powell was
Speaker 1: describing would amount to the single greatest crime in American history,
Speaker 1: but she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot
Speaker 1: of requests on the other. However, he did not say
Speaker 1: that what he believed privately that she was lying. Instead,
Speaker 1: he closed by saying, maybe Sidney Powell will come forward
Speaker 1: soon with details and exactly how this happened and precisely
Speaker 1: who did it. We are certainly hopeful that she will.
Speaker 1: And this is the most minimal pushback you could get
Speaker 1: on this still too much for Fox viewers. The motion,
Speaker 1: citing internal Fox communications, notes that there was a massive
Speaker 1: viewer backlash Tor sent on this, which caused him to
Speaker 1: mobilize with Raj Shaw from the brand team. Shaw messaged
Speaker 1: a number of executives, including Lackland, Murdoch and Suzanne Scott
Speaker 1: about this. But we don't know precisely what was said
Speaker 1: because the next full page or so was redacted. Again,
Speaker 1: super curious as to what was said there. When the
Speaker 1: black bars end, we come to this. Shaw also texted
Speaker 1: with producer Alex Piffer November twenty second, Shah wrote, shit
Speaker 1: is so crazy right now, so many people openly denying
Speaker 1: the obvious that Powell was clearly full of it. Phifer,
Speaker 1: she is a fucking nutcase now. November twenty second is
Speaker 1: the day that Trump finally disavows Powell. Noting that she
Speaker 1: did not represent his campaign. This appears to have been
Speaker 1: on the behest of Tucker Carlson, who messaged Ingram that
Speaker 1: day that dealing with Powell totally wrecked. He spells it
Speaker 1: r e c k ed my weekend. Then he says,
Speaker 1: this is Teckel. Wow. I had to try to make
Speaker 1: the White House disavow her, which they obviously should have
Speaker 1: done long before. Ingrams no serious lawyer could believe what
Speaker 1: they were saying. Carlson replies, but they said nothing in public.
Speaker 1: Pretty disgusting. Oh yeah, well, oh, it's disgusting that they
Speaker 1: didn't say it. Yeah, yeah. Oh. It's also interesting because
Speaker 1: the White House does disavow Powell after this, Like Carlson,
Speaker 1: that's just kind of evidence of the amount of poll
Speaker 1: that he does have. January sixth came as a surprise
Speaker 1: to everyone involved at Fox, at least based on what
Speaker 1: the discovery documents suggest. It seems to have done something
Speaker 1: to set up a sense of stakes for guys like Carlson,
Speaker 1: but he was still too afraid of losing his audience
Speaker 1: to reverse course. Late on January sixth, Carlson texted with
Speaker 1: Fiffer that Trump is quote a demonic force a destroyer,
Speaker 1: but he's not going to destroy us. On January twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: Carlson invited his leading sponsor Mike Lindell on the show,
Speaker 1: where Lindell spouted these same conspiracies on air after previewing
Speaker 1: them for Carlson staff during a pre interview. And again,
Speaker 1: this tycho to me between the almost panicked awareness of
Speaker 1: how much trouble they're getting into by defaming dominion and
Speaker 1: like inciting an insurrection. It exists on every level of
Speaker 1: decision making that Fox. And the last quote I'm going
Speaker 1: to read you from this motion is this. On January fifth,
Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch told Suzanne Scott it's been suggested our primetime
Speaker 1: three should independently or together say something like the election
Speaker 1: is over and Joe Biden won, and that such a
Speaker 1: statement would go a long way to stop the Trump
Speaker 1: myth at the election as stolen. Scott forwarded the email
Speaker 1: to Cooper, stating, I told Rupert privately that they are
Speaker 1: all there. We need to be careful about how using
Speaker 1: the shows and pissing off the viewers, but they know
Speaker 1: how to navigate. They did not know how to navigate
Speaker 1: and in fact refused to. But it's interesting that they
Speaker 1: were aware, as it's this suggests that Murdoch is aware,
Speaker 1: like we do have some sort of duty to use
Speaker 1: our reach to try and quash this might be seen
Speaker 1: as like evidence of guilt. Yeah, I mean, they're not unaware. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting what lines they I mean. But again, you're
Speaker 1: saying like they didn't do it, so yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't do it. Not the line is like considering doing something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess anyway, that's where we are, folks. That was
Speaker 1: a real treat. It wasn't treat, wasn't it. I'm so honor.
Speaker 1: Do you invite it? I loved it. I felt good
Speaker 1: about it. Do you feel good? I feel great about it?
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean I don't. I don't feel great
Speaker 1: about it. But I change a lot of people's minds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, That's what pisses me off most
Speaker 1: about it is like, oh, here, it is objective proof
Speaker 1: from the mouths of the people who run and are
Speaker 1: the main faces on Fox that they are liars and
Speaker 1: they are lying to their audience and they are like
Speaker 1: doing it out of a pure cowardly venal desire for
Speaker 1: money and fame and care nothing about the degree to
Speaker 1: which they mislead people really and it will never matter
Speaker 1: because facts, it's impossible to convince anyone with facts. You
Speaker 1: put this in front of a person, like the tiny
Speaker 1: little morsel right of here's well Tucker, here he is
Speaker 1: saying that, like he needs evidence for it. So he
Speaker 1: did push back, Like that's the game that they try
Speaker 1: to play and sometimes exceed that. There's enough like you
Speaker 1: can see people running cover for them already of like,
Speaker 1: well no he did, It's he said it without acknowledging
Speaker 1: anything else. It's very frustrating. I mean, it's it's this
Speaker 1: thing where like I don't know, I shouldn't say it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all because we just had this very
Speaker 1: shocking like midterm upset where like maybe maybe we're coming
Speaker 1: to like ahead of how much they can get away with.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll know after twenty twenty four, but um,
Speaker 1: it does. I do know that like the people in
Speaker 1: my own life who have been listening to watching Fox
Speaker 1: religiously for years, this won't stop them. This will not
Speaker 1: have any impact. And like, and they're not dumb people,
Speaker 1: nor are they bad people. It just they have gotten
Speaker 1: bored into their reality tunnel and the like like digging
Speaker 1: into this acknowledging the degree to which they've just been
Speaker 1: manipulated for their viewership would be I think psychically painful.
Speaker 1: So why why would you do it? It's hard to accept.
Speaker 1: We see it all the time, the people that still
Speaker 1: are on the Q trade, you know, like having a
Speaker 1: hard time accepting the facts of it. But also I
Speaker 1: would imagine that there's a lot of people who straight
Speaker 1: up don't even know this story, like Fox News viewers
Speaker 1: that oh, yeah, get this information because it's not like
Speaker 1: this is going to be a breaking news segment on
Speaker 1: Fox News, you know. Yeah. Anyhow, I want to read
Speaker 1: more their texts, either adapted parts. Yeah, I would like
Speaker 1: some of that too. There's a lot of very enticing pieces.
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Speaker 1: are a well oiled gazelle. Yeah we aren't. We get
Speaker 1: that a lot. Yeah, we get the oil from Rudy's skull.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's where we need to invade. Next
Speaker 1: is Rudy Juliani's forty. Send the Tenth Mountain Division in there,
Speaker 1: get it out, get it all that fuel really out
Speaker 1: right now, though, somebody needs to cut like, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, use an AI or something to like cut
Speaker 1: him into X Files whenever there's one of the aliens
Speaker 1: that have like the black oil coming out of there. Yeah, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody make Rudy into an alien super soldier on like
Speaker 1: season six of the X Files. I feel like someone will.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah I could always a person. Thank you in advance. Yeah,
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