Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Lyle. Just a reminder that I am
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Speaker 1: city in the episode description. Okay, let's get into the podcast. Hello. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's your name?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: It says here you're anonymous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can call me Snoopy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. Why Snoopy? What is there a?
Speaker 1: It's like something behind that.
Speaker 3: It's my dog's name.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Snoopy, what's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've been on probation for about eight years
Speaker 2: now and I'm about to get off in one week.
Speaker 1: You've been on probation for eight years? You said.
Speaker 3: Eight years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is probation?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What are the ground rules of probation?
Speaker 3: Well, I live in a.
Speaker 2: Small town, so it's like, well, first of all, ground
Speaker 2: rules is no doing pot, no smoking wheat at all,
Speaker 2: no drinking.
Speaker 3: You gotta go to a meeting.
Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you mentioned you live in a small town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like a couple of different times, people
Speaker 2: have like reported me from my probation officer just for
Speaker 2: like you know, going to the bar hanging with people.
Speaker 3: Which is obviously breaking rules.
Speaker 1: But you know, interesting around the town have reported you
Speaker 1: to your probation officer for breaking the rules. Yes, why
Speaker 1: do you think they do all the town? What do
Speaker 1: you believe is in it for them to report you?
Speaker 3: Good question, but it's happened multiple times. You know. It's
Speaker 3: like people out trying to ruin lives.
Speaker 1: Maybe, So can I ask why you were on probation?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like eight years ago, I got caught selling just
Speaker 5: good drugs I would say ecstasy and acid and mushrooms.
Speaker 2: And so the cops bus in my house and I
Speaker 2: had like ten pounds a weeed, like forty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: cash and and some ecstasy and mushrooms.
Speaker 3: And and then I got put on probation.
Speaker 2: I went into jail for about seven months, and then
Speaker 2: and then I got onto ankle water.
Speaker 3: Which was a breeze everyone should do it.
Speaker 2: And then and then served the time on probation. And
Speaker 2: then I had another charge, well, still on probation, of
Speaker 2: ordering drugs off the dark web, but this time I
Speaker 2: thought that they were legal drugs.
Speaker 1: You thought that you were ordering legal drugs off of
Speaker 1: the dark way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the hand of God right now.
Speaker 2: I thought that what I was ordering was legal because
Speaker 2: it was like a research chemical.
Speaker 1: But snoopy, If it was legal, why would they be
Speaker 1: selling it on the dark web?
Speaker 3: Well it was. It was on the gray web.
Speaker 2: So I basically like emailed a guy from China and he.
Speaker 3: Sent me something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid for it was a bitcoin.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you were caught. And then how did
Speaker 1: that manifest in more charges that just extend your career?
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, another two years which I served on ankle
Speaker 2: monitor and then extended out my probation even longer. But
Speaker 2: in one week I am about to get off. I
Speaker 2: have just intense anxiety, you know. It's more of like
Speaker 2: this intending doom thing, like the whole world's about to.
Speaker 3: Collapse on me.
Speaker 1: So you were on the ankle monitor for two years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what were you? And and with the ankle monitor, were
Speaker 1: you just not allowed to leave the house?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 2: I had four hours a week of.
Speaker 3: Free time, which I think is honestly too low.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, uh, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people go outside, and that's very curing of their addiction,
Speaker 2: I would say, And I'm big into disc golfing, and
Speaker 2: and I only had four hours a week to get
Speaker 2: like shopping done and maybe go on a walk.
Speaker 1: You know, what kinds of things would you do to
Speaker 1: bide your time if you couldn't go outside?
Speaker 3: Just Xbox.
Speaker 2: Destiny computer games, throw the ball in.
Speaker 3: The yard for my dogs.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me more about this anxiety and impending
Speaker 1: doom that you're feeling as a result of your approbation
Speaker 1: being over. I would, I would. I would think that
Speaker 1: that would be a positive thing that you're looking forward to.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious, why are you feeling it?
Speaker 7: Is?
Speaker 2: I just maybe that's the anxiety causing it, Is that
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking that something bad is going to happen,
Speaker 2: you know, even though I'm not doing anything wrong that
Speaker 2: you know, I guess it's just a big thing after
Speaker 2: not being able to do anything after so long and
Speaker 2: then suddenly you know, you don't have probation officers that
Speaker 2: can suddenly stop at your house or I can go
Speaker 2: out to the bar and get a drink. I can
Speaker 2: go to the dispensary and buy weed. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just a big difference in my life.
Speaker 1: So where is the anxiety coming from? What you said?
Speaker 1: You said that you're afraid of what bad things could happen.
Speaker 1: Do you have any examples of specific bad things that
Speaker 1: you're afraid might happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually it's uh, my wife she smokes weed and
Speaker 2: she drinks, and so I'm in this kind of predicament
Speaker 2: where if they were to stop buy right now, I
Speaker 2: like I would get in.
Speaker 3: Trouble just by proxy. I believe.
Speaker 2: You know, there's alcohol in the house, there's weed in
Speaker 2: the house. I'm not doing it, but he is. But
Speaker 2: then here I will be doing it, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's like I'm in this tough position where it's like
Speaker 2: I can't really.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, So so is your So I
Speaker 1: mean what you just described is an anxiety over potentially
Speaker 1: being caught while still on probation. Is that what you're
Speaker 1: Are you anxious in this time period right now? Or
Speaker 1: I'm trying to proverb about, like you know, what is
Speaker 1: it that you're anxious about that you think might happen
Speaker 1: that could go wrong once you are free from probation.
Speaker 2: More it's just the fear of unknown, i'd say. I mean,
Speaker 2: since I've been on probation and I've gotten married, We've
Speaker 2: gotten multiple animals together, you know, life is good. But
Speaker 2: it's just kind of, yeah, just something.
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced for a very long time, you.
Speaker 8: Know, so.
Speaker 3: Twenty one, you know, and I'm almost thirty.
Speaker 1: So is it more so, let me take a stab
Speaker 1: at it. Is it? Just like you have your life
Speaker 1: is pretty small and you know, literally being lived within
Speaker 1: this finite circle for the past eight years, and it's comfortable.
Speaker 1: You're used to it. It sounds like it's you know,
Speaker 1: been nice. You have your wife, you have your animals,
Speaker 1: you have your house. Things seem like they've been okay
Speaker 1: for you from what I've you know, gathered from the
Speaker 1: way you're talking about it. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that comfortable circle is opening up to a wide, expansive
Speaker 1: see of the infinite, and the size of that infinite
Speaker 1: is giving you anxiety. Yes, definitely, Okay. Is there anything
Speaker 1: over these past eight years that you have really wanted
Speaker 1: to do that you could not do because of your
Speaker 1: probation that you are now to do.
Speaker 3: There was a vacation, you know.
Speaker 2: I couldn't leave town for a very long time, but
Speaker 2: I just did that. I just got married and went
Speaker 2: on my honeymoon.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: That was a possibility.
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't smoke, I couldn't drink on my.
Speaker 3: Honeymoon, you know, so that was fun.
Speaker 6: But still it was a vacation, you know, man, I
Speaker 6: think it.
Speaker 1: I think it. First. I was struggling to understand where
Speaker 1: you were coming from, but I actually kind of get
Speaker 1: it now. I'm thinking back to the pandemic, where all
Speaker 1: the opportunity costs of the world disappeared, and for once,
Speaker 1: things of you know, for some people. Everyone kind of
Speaker 1: handled it differently and has different philosophies on how they
Speaker 1: want to live life. But for once, the smaller your
Speaker 1: world is, the more manageable it is. And there's something
Speaker 1: nice to that. And I remember feeling like all of
Speaker 1: the anxieties of oh I could do anything of that big,
Speaker 1: unknowable ocean of the universe for the first time ever
Speaker 1: disappeared not just for me but for everyone, and there
Speaker 1: was a weirdly comfortable thing to it that I'm kind
Speaker 1: of keying into. With your situation, and well, let me
Speaker 1: ask you, Well, let me ask you this. You're saying change?
Speaker 1: Why why if you have everything you need at home,
Speaker 1: why does there even need to be any change?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I do like smoking weed.
Speaker 4: You know, Okay, who.
Speaker 2: Doesn't say, Well, a lot of people, but you know.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean okay, Well, so I mean listen, if
Speaker 1: you want to smoke weed and you know you're you
Speaker 1: know that it's not going to fuck you up in
Speaker 1: any kind of negative way, then go smoke weed. But
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about your anxiety over your world
Speaker 1: opening up? Yeah, are you anxious about is it? Let
Speaker 1: me ask you, is there any part of you that's
Speaker 1: anxious about any negative? So you haven't smoked weed in
Speaker 1: eight years? Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Well, through a loophole in.
Speaker 2: My probation, I tried to get a medical card, and
Speaker 2: so this last Christmas I was allowed to smoke for
Speaker 2: one week and then and then they canceled it and
Speaker 2: said it wasn't a good enough reason, and so I
Speaker 2: had one week of smoking weed.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to assume that over these past eight
Speaker 1: years you have had little pockets of pieces where you have,
Speaker 1: you know, however legally or not smoked weed. Or gotten drunk.
Speaker 1: But in the past eight years it more or less
Speaker 1: has not been you know, I guess legal by your terms. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So a constant thing. And so is there is any
Speaker 1: part of you wanted to do Is any part of
Speaker 1: you anxious about any negative effects that reintroducing a consistent
Speaker 1: stream of weed, smoking and alcohol drinking back into your
Speaker 1: life might have.
Speaker 2: Well, I would hope I wouldn't have a constant shame
Speaker 2: of alcohol.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think alcohol is the best for you,
Speaker 3: okay or me? Yeah, But.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: I would say it's just anxiety in general.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what what if I go back
Speaker 2: to jail? What if I get back on probation for
Speaker 2: some something stupid?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any plans or let's not even
Speaker 1: talk about plans, but desires, thoughts, intrusive thoughts, temptations to
Speaker 1: do anything that might land you back in the situation
Speaker 1: like that. No, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad
Speaker 1: to hear that.
Speaker 2: Intrusive thoughts maybe maybe in true.
Speaker 1: Oh we all got those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Think I think that after eight years kind of you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sick of being under the government's thump.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But I feel I feel my best interest.
Speaker 1: I feel where your anxiety is coming from. And I
Speaker 1: also feel like you'll you'll adjust to your freedom after
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, and it won't be as
Speaker 1: scary for you. Uh once once sometimes pasted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, well, it says he you definitely made me
Speaker 2: feel a little better better.
Speaker 1: Okay, good good. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that this uh was something.
Speaker 3: Something.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you also were able to
Speaker 1: build a b A A a A a good life for
Speaker 1: yourself while on probation. Yeah, it sounds like you've got
Speaker 1: a good thing going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely taught me to to not fuck up,
Speaker 2: i'd say, and not have to deal with the police.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you were about to say that I should
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 3: You should come to Alaska on your tour.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I saw here it says Anonymous twenty nine
Speaker 1: is from Alaska. I saw that you're from Alaska. I
Speaker 1: don't want to dox you, but I really I really
Speaker 1: want to go to Anchorage find some I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people that listen to this are in the
Speaker 1: fucking Alaska.
Speaker 3: Well I'm not from Anchorage. You shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do Anchorage. I feel like if I'm going anywhere,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Anchorage. And you know what, with
Speaker 1: your new found anywhere, where.
Speaker 5: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Where do you think I should go?
Speaker 2: That's the most popular city. Yeah, there's a couple of
Speaker 2: different cities.
Speaker 1: Well here I'll go to I'll go to Anchorage, and
Speaker 1: then you, with your new found freedom should come I
Speaker 1: we'll talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or I just for a bit and find
Speaker 2: a live.
Speaker 1: Show you're doing, Snooper or anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before you go.
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you too.
Speaker 3: Have a good one.
Speaker 1: I like that guy. He had an interesting dilemma. He
Speaker 1: had an interesting dilemma that I like. I said to him.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it first, and then I kind of
Speaker 1: got it because I was relating it to my own
Speaker 1: experience with the pandemic. And there's a weird I guess,
Speaker 1: paralysis of choice, where if you are are limited to
Speaker 1: a certain area that you can exist in certain finite
Speaker 1: actions you can take. There's a almost a comfort in
Speaker 1: it that I think Snoopy was reeling in for the
Speaker 1: past eight years. And it's really bizarre because, yes, the
Speaker 1: world is opening back up for him now his privation
Speaker 1: is open. But just because the world has opened up,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do anything he could if he
Speaker 1: wanted to continue to enjoy his comfort live exactly the
Speaker 1: same way he's been living for the past eight years.
Speaker 1: There is no law saying that he has to travel
Speaker 1: anywhere or do anything outside of his bubble. But it's
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to me, just from like some objective standpoint
Speaker 1: that just the knowledge that the world is opening up,
Speaker 1: even though he's not being forced to leave his comfort zone,
Speaker 1: just the fact that the option exists is giving him anxiety.
Speaker 1: I find that interesting. I've kind of, like I said,
Speaker 1: I connected with that a lot with the pandemic. You know,
Speaker 1: the idea that you can do anything is both beautiful
Speaker 1: and weirdly paralyzing. Hello, how's it going.
Speaker 8: Pretty good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am? Okay, I'm a gecko on the computer. Crazy
Speaker 1: times we're living in where you can just do that.
Speaker 1: Very What are you? What are you up to? What's
Speaker 1: going on in your.
Speaker 8: Life right now? I'm just sitting in bed with my cat.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 8: I didn't think I was gonna get on here.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of nervous.
Speaker 1: No, don't be look I and everyone. I was saying
Speaker 1: this a lot during the live shows. Everyone is kind
Speaker 1: of gets nervous when they first get on, and then
Speaker 1: after like two minutes you'll be like, oh, I'm just
Speaker 1: on the phone with a person hanging out, So don't
Speaker 1: worry about that'll that'll go away eventually. But what's honest,
Speaker 1: is there anything in particularly called in to talk about.
Speaker 8: I was trying to think about something, you know, when
Speaker 8: I was calling. There's like one thing that stood out.
Speaker 8: I know you can like see what it is, but
Speaker 8: it's given me a lot of anxiety, and I haven't
Speaker 8: really talked to anyone about it.
Speaker 1: So, uh, do you do you want to talk about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's fine, Okay, I mean listen, you know, you only
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't. I think that's fine.
Speaker 8: I don't think no one's listening anyway, no one that
Speaker 8: I know, And even if they are, I mean, it'll
Speaker 8: come out eventually. So yeah, I'll just say I'm pregnant,
Speaker 8: not that any of you guys care but like, you know,
Speaker 8: obviously that's something crazy in my life.
Speaker 1: So do people in your life not know that you
Speaker 1: are pregnant?
Speaker 8: Only only the dad and it's really early?
Speaker 1: So mm hmm, are is there a Is there a
Speaker 1: reason why? And by the way, know that you're you know,
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about this with anyone. So look, if
Speaker 1: I ask you any questions about anything that you you know,
Speaker 1: don't want to answer, don't don't uh feel like you
Speaker 1: have to. Is there is there a reason why you
Speaker 1: haven't told anyone?
Speaker 8: I guess I'm I'm kind of nervous. I mean, I'm
Speaker 8: twenty five. It's not like I'm like a kid. But
Speaker 8: I guess, well, the relationship is kind of new and
Speaker 8: everything's great, and like I know, this is something I've wanted,
Speaker 8: you know, I've always wanted to be a mom, But
Speaker 8: like when it happens, it's kind of it kind of
Speaker 8: hits a lot different.
Speaker 1: In what way is it hitting you different?
Speaker 8: I guess just like not knowing. If I guess everyone
Speaker 8: if they're in that situation that doesn't know if they're
Speaker 8: gonna be able to handle it or not. Mm hmmm, Uh,
Speaker 8: I don't know. I guess just like if I'm making
Speaker 8: the right decisions.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, is it is it? Is it a decision
Speaker 1: that you have thought a lot about? Yeah, okay, can
Speaker 1: I hear about kind of the thought processes and you know,
Speaker 1: the what the bouncing of thoughts back and forth has been.
Speaker 8: Well, it's like I don't have like a you know,
Speaker 8: great career or something something like that. Like I'm in
Speaker 8: a relationship with the father and he's he's a lot
Speaker 8: more you know, stable, and like I guess, you know,
Speaker 8: we wouldn't I wouldn't have to worry about like things
Speaker 8: being handled or taken care of. You know, we could,
Speaker 8: we would be able to handle it. But like like
Speaker 8: I said, since it's a newish relationship, I just kind
Speaker 8: of want to obviously make sure that like if and
Speaker 8: you never know if a relationship is going to work out,
Speaker 8: whether you're like married or whatever. But I guess, just
Speaker 8: like thinking in my head if I can, if I'd
Speaker 8: be willing to do that alone if it ever came
Speaker 8: to that, you know, not that I don't think I have.
Speaker 8: I don't have any reason to think about that.
Speaker 1: But how long have you been in a relationship with
Speaker 1: with the father?
Speaker 8: Less than a year?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, And is is he excited about the pregnancy
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 8: Yeah, like he's been. He's been really supportive and hasn't
Speaker 8: you know, every time we've talked about it or I
Speaker 8: guess I've asked what he thinks. He hasn't hasn't suggested
Speaker 8: that I get an abortion, or you know, is supportive
Speaker 8: like say like let's do it or whatever. But it's
Speaker 8: just scary, I guess.
Speaker 1: And you said to me that this is something that
Speaker 1: you have always known that you wanted to do. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know I feel like the feelings that you have
Speaker 1: where you know, first of all, I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: that there's something you want, you know, it's not something
Speaker 1: that you're feeling like you're being pressured into. It's it's not,
Speaker 1: you know, something where you know. I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: that the father is also has you know, is on
Speaker 1: the same page as you are with everything. Those are
Speaker 1: those are are great things to not have be hurdles
Speaker 1: in all of this. And you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what you want, you made the decision to go
Speaker 1: for it, and then you're dealing with these feelings of
Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to handle it, and I
Speaker 1: get the feeling. I'm not a mom, I don't have kids,
Speaker 1: but my mom has kids. And I get the feeling
Speaker 1: that your feelings of not knowing whether or not to
Speaker 1: handle it are about as normal as they could possibly
Speaker 1: be in this situation. It has to be something that
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody who is about to have a kid
Speaker 1: feels and eventually deals with and overcomes. And I think
Speaker 1: that you sound like, again, you're going into this for
Speaker 1: the right reason, which is that you want to. And
Speaker 1: I think that even though it'll be challenging, I think
Speaker 1: that will overcome those challenges.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you. I guess it's kind of also just
Speaker 8: feeling like I haven't done enough, you know, like like
Speaker 8: thinking you would have done more by that point, like
Speaker 8: bringing a kid into the world. You know, I want
Speaker 8: to have like things to show and like be proud of.
Speaker 1: Kind of can I can?
Speaker 8: I ask what time I'm getting emotional?
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, it's okay. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: like I keep telling you, you know, I only want
Speaker 1: you to have this conversation if you feel like you
Speaker 1: know you want to and everything. I know it's something
Speaker 1: you haven't talked about before.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess that's why because I haven't talked to
Speaker 8: anyone about it.
Speaker 1: So can I ask you this? You said that there
Speaker 1: are things that you felt like you wanted to do
Speaker 1: or have to show forth. What can I hear some
Speaker 1: of those things an example?
Speaker 8: I really don't know. That's why it sucks, Like I
Speaker 8: guess that's the only reason I'm doubting things is because
Speaker 8: I don't have like get anything figured out yet.
Speaker 1: You know, m hm, Well, I mean, if to me,
Speaker 1: if you don't have clear examples of, Oh, I want
Speaker 1: to accomplish X thing, but I don't think I can
Speaker 1: do it if I have a baby, then if we
Speaker 1: don't even know what X thing is, then how can
Speaker 1: we jump to the conclusion that you can't do it
Speaker 1: while also having a kid?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I mean, I you know, I mean, if I
Speaker 1: gave you a second to think about it, are there
Speaker 1: are there things that that you really can think of
Speaker 1: that you want to do that you're afraid you might
Speaker 1: not be able to do? And maybe if we talk
Speaker 1: about it a little bit, we can realize that maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we really can do those things.
Speaker 8: I I don't know, I haven't I still haven't been
Speaker 8: able to find some uh, I guess career path or
Speaker 8: like figure out exactly what I want to do. I
Speaker 8: know I want to help people. I'm not great at
Speaker 8: the like uh, I mean, I can do a nine
Speaker 8: to five, you know, anyone can. But it's not it's
Speaker 8: not like what I'm drawn too. I really, I really
Speaker 8: it's I feel like it sounds so stupid, but I
Speaker 8: always wanted to be a mom, so like that's kind of.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 8: I feel like everything else was like as as long
Speaker 8: as I was able to like provide or like give
Speaker 8: a good life, like that's what I wanted. But I
Speaker 8: don't know. No, I don't know any I don't know
Speaker 8: any like concrete things that I would like to accomplish.
Speaker 1: Really, if what you're saying is is true, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you're doing the thing that you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand why there's a lot of fear
Speaker 1: that having a kid can be limiting. But also, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're very young, and I feel like anything that you
Speaker 1: would want to do, there's a lot of time for
Speaker 1: you to do it, and you're doing a thing that
Speaker 1: you've always wanted to do. So you know, you're sitting
Speaker 1: here and you can't think of anything concrete aside from
Speaker 1: being a mom that you want to do and you're
Speaker 1: doing the thing that you want to do, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's that's great. And I think
Speaker 1: there's lots of people out there who have kids that
Speaker 1: later in life, maybe five years from now, when you're
Speaker 1: thirty and the kid is five, you are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to fucking paint stuff, and you find a
Speaker 1: way to finagle that into your life or any other
Speaker 1: things that you would want to do, you know. I
Speaker 1: I I feel like this idea of limitations that you're
Speaker 1: setting doesn't have a concrete basis, and so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be so afraid of it.
Speaker 7: Okay, I get that.
Speaker 1: I mean you could tell you could tell me if
Speaker 1: you if you don't agree, or if you think otherwise,
Speaker 1: or if you have any other no of this, you know.
Speaker 8: I guess I just feel like, you know, obviously, it
Speaker 8: depends on like how the future goes with like you know,
Speaker 8: my relationship or the structure of it, or however we
Speaker 8: work that out. But like, hm, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I guess people, I guess I'm worried about people judging
Speaker 8: too for like people kind of judge or like, my
Speaker 8: family will support me and everything, but it's also like
Speaker 8: I think they'll think that stuff too. M h.
Speaker 4: H.
Speaker 1: I I hope that you understand, at least from where
Speaker 1: you know, from where I from where I see it,
Speaker 1: from what you've told me, you're making a decision in
Speaker 1: the direction of what you want out of life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I hope that you understand that, and I hope
Speaker 1: that you feel confident in that, and I hope that
Speaker 1: your confidence in that supersedes any of your friends or
Speaker 1: family's judgments on your decisions, because I really feel like
Speaker 1: it should.
Speaker 7: Thank you are.
Speaker 8: How do you know, you know, but here you are.
Speaker 8: I feel good. I just I I've felt excited, you
Speaker 8: know the whole time.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 8: Been on the fence, like you know, should I have time,
Speaker 8: like I have time to make a decision, you know,
Speaker 8: or like to think about my options. So I guess
Speaker 8: I was just kind of doing that. But I I know,
Speaker 8: like what you're saying, it is right if that's kind
Speaker 8: of what I have wanted, and you know I'm able.
Speaker 7: To to do that in the right situation. M Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: that's basically it.
Speaker 1: Brianna. Is there anything else that you you want to say,
Speaker 1: or any aspect of this that that you feel like
Speaker 1: we didn't cover that you want to talk about before
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 8: No. I also, okay, somebody's probably I have a question.
Speaker 8: Somebody's probably asked this before.
Speaker 4: Sure, stupid.
Speaker 8: How how often do you wash the GAT suit?
Speaker 1: I have probably bought more. This is embarrassing to say,
Speaker 1: but I have bought more GaX suits than I have
Speaker 1: washed GAK suits. That is a testament to my laziness.
Speaker 8: So do you have like different ones? You just toss
Speaker 8: them out when you're done.
Speaker 1: Some of the they get like tattered and destroyed and lost.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one, that one. Everyone was worried about your
Speaker 8: jewels coming out on that one.
Speaker 1: Keep your like, oh yeah there's a big Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a big fucking hole in my pants right now. So
Speaker 1: this one will probably be thrown together to the to
Speaker 1: the to the to the wolves. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't I don't think I could sell this
Speaker 1: suit in good conscious. Uh maybe, man, maybe I'll do
Speaker 1: like a fucking charity thing or something like that.
Speaker 8: But yes, at one of your life.
Speaker 1: That could be oh man, like, actually could be a
Speaker 1: good idea to do it at a live Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: think about that helped me out here, Brianna. I appreciate this, Brianna.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I know that you came
Speaker 1: and you you and this is honestly, like been my
Speaker 1: favorite part of doing this ship is. I know that
Speaker 1: you came into this like feeling nervous and unsure if
Speaker 1: you wanted to share anything. And uh, I just want
Speaker 1: to say, I really appreciate you sharing all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I know it was a tough thing. I'm proud of
Speaker 1: you for making decisions in life that are difficult but
Speaker 1: that you know are the right ones to make for
Speaker 1: you and your happiness and what you want to do.
Speaker 1: I hope that you don't feel limited. I hope that
Speaker 1: you feel quite the opposite as you should, feel empowered,
Speaker 1: feel infinite to do whatever it is you want. And
Speaker 1: I I wish you good luck in the future.
Speaker 7: Man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: So have a good night you as well, Brianna. Ye
Speaker 1: oh you know what, Okay, I'm gonna come out with this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out with this. I I contradicted myself
Speaker 1: in that phone call. I really did. I contradicted myself
Speaker 1: because I've said and and and Actually I liked that.
Speaker 1: I liked that phone call because it kind of made
Speaker 1: me have to face something that I've said a lot.
Speaker 1: I have said a lot on this podcast that the
Speaker 1: the only irreversible things you could do to change your
Speaker 1: life is have is get arrested, or have a kid.
Speaker 1: And I had to face that one now because I
Speaker 1: was telling her that she should feel as though life
Speaker 1: is infinite and not super limited, and and what going
Speaker 1: into that conversation, and I was really thinking about it
Speaker 1: the whole time I was thinking. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: like I was thinking about my parents and you know,
Speaker 1: the lives that they live, thinking about other people I've
Speaker 1: talked to on this podcast that our parents people you
Speaker 1: know I've seen in media people. I know that our
Speaker 1: parents and they do stuff, they really do. I feel
Speaker 1: like I kind of ate my words at that conversation
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about and they do do stuff,
Speaker 1: they do fine time in their lives to do things
Speaker 1: that they want to do. And especially Brionna, because Briann
Speaker 1: I was so young that like her life could could
Speaker 1: run a billion different ways. She could have the kid
Speaker 1: and then be like, you know what I actually wants
Speaker 1: to be fucking I'm trying to think of anything here.
Speaker 1: I used painting is an example. I want to start
Speaker 1: a podcast about the Sopranos. And I bet she could
Speaker 1: find some time after she puts the kid to bed
Speaker 1: to record her Sopranos episodes and do her thing, just any,
Speaker 1: just anything, really, And I really do believe that. I
Speaker 1: do believe that there's enough room in a life to
Speaker 1: accomplish many things. And it sounded to me like the
Speaker 1: forefront thing in her mind that she wanted to accomplish
Speaker 1: was to be a mother, and so I'm really glad
Speaker 1: that she's going after that accomplishment. And then you know,
Speaker 1: on top of that, there is another thing I talk
Speaker 1: about in the podcast all the time, is she had
Speaker 1: this general idea of what she wanted to do, which
Speaker 1: was to help people. Fantastic, beautiful, amazing, start with the kid, helpless,
Speaker 1: shit out of the kid, and then eventually the kid
Speaker 1: will will will will slowly over over the years, because
Speaker 1: as much as we think life is short, life is
Speaker 1: pretty long. Become self sufficient and give her some time
Speaker 1: to help other people in whatever way she wants to.
Speaker 1: If she wants to get involved in volunteer work, if
Speaker 1: she wants to start some business, if she wants to
Speaker 1: give a guy on a street five dollars. Whatever her
Speaker 1: fucking way is of helping people. I think she'll be
Speaker 1: able to do that, and I think that she'll be
Speaker 1: able to live a nice and happy life. And I'm
Speaker 1: excited for her, and I hope that she internalizes all
Speaker 1: that and really feels it, because I do believe it beautiful.
Speaker 1: Next call, Hello, Hello, is this Christian?
Speaker 6: Yeah? It's way, am I You're at.
Speaker 1: You said that just now? Like, did I annoy you?
Speaker 1: I have? Did I apologize if I did? You seemed
Speaker 1: you seemed a little bit annoyed. It's okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: coming at you. I just want to know how you're feeling. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could hear you? Am I in Yeah? Oh shit? Okay, No, No,
Speaker 6: you didn't annoy me?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I you said hello in like a kind
Speaker 1: of an annoyed way, and I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I'm not offended. If I annoyed you, I can handle.
Speaker 6: Hello with a question mark. No, that was like a
Speaker 6: hello with a question mark.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What is your name again?
Speaker 6: My name is Christian?
Speaker 1: Christian? What's going on with you?
Speaker 6: Christian, Oh, not not much. Just here, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm pretty I'm kind of stoned.
Speaker 1: Okay, how stone is kind of stone? Like on a
Speaker 1: scale from one to ten.
Speaker 6: Oh fuck, i'd say a good solid like twelve.
Speaker 1: You're a that's not kind of stoned, that's extremely.
Speaker 6: Kind of sort of.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm gonna just you know, I'm not even I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna trust. I'm not going to trust your first
Speaker 1: hand experience. But judging by your actions and words over
Speaker 1: the course of this phone call, you sound like you're
Speaker 1: at an eight.
Speaker 6: At an eight, okay, I mean that's that sounds plausible.
Speaker 1: Christian, What's what's up with you? Man? Is there a
Speaker 1: thing that you called in to want to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yes, I actually harass my wife with a turtle puppet,
Speaker 6: like outside in public.
Speaker 1: You harass your wife with a turtle puppet outside in public?
Speaker 6: Yes, I pretty much like make like very awkward moaning
Speaker 6: noises to her like here, and it's the funniest thing,
Speaker 6: Like her reaction is the most funniest thing.
Speaker 1: Do you bring the turtle puppet around with you everywhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Like literally everywhere?
Speaker 1: How did you start doing this?
Speaker 4: Basically?
Speaker 6: What happened was we were at Barnes and Noble and
Speaker 6: we were in the kids section because she, I mean
Speaker 6: she was pregnant at the time, and I just saw
Speaker 6: this turtle puppet. He pretty much looked like he looked
Speaker 6: retardedly like cute. Can I say that?
Speaker 1: Well you already did, okay.
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry, And I just pretty much grabbed it
Speaker 6: and just started like making a very awkward noises like
Speaker 6: to her ear. And yeah, it was pretty much. It
Speaker 6: was pretty funny because like a bunch of kids just
Speaker 6: kind of like looked at me while was making like
Speaker 6: these noises.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so you you were trying out the puppet,
Speaker 1: and then what made you decide to buy it?
Speaker 6: Well, oh, dude, like her reaction pretty much, I literally
Speaker 6: spent forty.
Speaker 3: Dollars on this puppet.
Speaker 1: Okay. And how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 6: Hm, I would say about six months? Six months already.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you do this, You've been doing it for
Speaker 1: six months? And you say you've been doing it every
Speaker 1: single time you guys go out in public.
Speaker 6: Almost every time. Sometimes she like kind of asked me
Speaker 6: to leave the puppet in the car, which I kind
Speaker 6: of understand.
Speaker 2: You know, are you.
Speaker 1: Is your wife at home with you right now? Yes?
Speaker 4: She is?
Speaker 1: Actually, can I talk to her?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 4: Baby, it's Lyle.
Speaker 6: He wants to talk to you. Yeah, about the puppet here.
Speaker 9: This is not the way I wanted to meet Therapy
Speaker 9: got go Hello, Hi, what is your name? I'm CALLI.
Speaker 1: I'm Christian, Callie. It's nice to meet you. So, okay.
Speaker 1: We got a perspective from Christian on this puppet situation,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of wondering what your thoughts are
Speaker 1: on it, because if I were married to him, I
Speaker 1: would have gotten a divorce around at about maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know what your guys like, how long you were
Speaker 1: dating before, but I would have divorced him at about
Speaker 1: a month of the puppet.
Speaker 9: The thought cost my mind.
Speaker 7: No, I don't.
Speaker 9: He's just weird. I don't know. It was just something
Speaker 9: that happened and he just kept doing it because people
Speaker 9: thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: So does he do other things like this? Or is
Speaker 1: this the first kind of prank that he has pulled
Speaker 1: on you?
Speaker 9: I think that's pretty much. This is pretty much the
Speaker 9: only prank he's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is does he do other things to annoy you
Speaker 1: or just the puppets?
Speaker 9: Well? When you're married. Yeah, but I know, just just
Speaker 9: that one thing.
Speaker 1: Really, h What is it about Christian that made you
Speaker 1: want to get married to him? I don't know.
Speaker 9: We just like we were hanging out and we just
Speaker 9: kind of clicked and never really left each other.
Speaker 1: Is is there anything that you've done to enact any
Speaker 1: kind of revenge against Christian for the puppet? Nonsense?
Speaker 9: Things are in the works, not really, because I've been
Speaker 9: pregnant so I couldn't. Really, I haven't really been able
Speaker 9: to do anything, so not yet. But if you have
Speaker 9: any ideas, I'm all here.
Speaker 1: I would say you could get your own puppet, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that would work because Christian sounds like
Speaker 1: he like he likes puppets.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you got me there.
Speaker 1: Now what would now? What would Christian have to do
Speaker 1: to make you leave him?
Speaker 9: Honestly, the only thing he could do is probably like
Speaker 9: cheat on me, and that would be the end.
Speaker 1: What if he cheated on you but he used the
Speaker 1: puppet and then claims that the puppet was cheating and
Speaker 1: not him.
Speaker 9: That's probably grounds for divorce too.
Speaker 1: Even if it was the puppets.
Speaker 9: Probably that I'm sorry, not not my thing.
Speaker 1: Hmm, Well, something tells me that that you're not going
Speaker 1: to have to worry about that.
Speaker 9: No at all. This is your name again, the Cally Kelly.
Speaker 1: Mm. How did you guys meet?
Speaker 9: So it's a long story. So I actually Christian stopped no,
Speaker 9: So that happened like a couple months into us being married.
Speaker 9: So how so he knew some of the same people
Speaker 9: I knew, but we actually never met. We were pretty
Speaker 9: much like he was with one girl and I was
Speaker 9: actually hanging out with her ex. And then we never
Speaker 9: knew each other until two years ago, and then we
Speaker 9: were like, what the fuck. I don't know if I
Speaker 9: can curse on your podcast, but we were like, what
Speaker 9: the hell? Like, we've never like, we were pretty much
Speaker 9: in between people and we just never met.
Speaker 1: Well, I find it very beautiful because it it takes
Speaker 1: a lot of searching for a puppet guy to find
Speaker 1: a lady who does not mind the puppets, and so
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for both of you. Oh, thank you, Kelly.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before.
Speaker 9: We go, No, just thanks for having me, I guess.
Speaker 1: Of course it has been very cool and interesting for
Speaker 1: me as well. I still can't get over, and I
Speaker 1: was gonna save this for my post call thoughts. But
Speaker 1: it's not the fact that he occasionally bothers you with
Speaker 1: the puppet. It's a fact that he doesn't occasionally bother
Speaker 1: you with the puppet, that he bothers you with the
Speaker 1: puppet every single day.
Speaker 9: And he did it for the entire time I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Are you sure there's not something going on underneath him?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know him better than I do, so I
Speaker 1: trust you. Thank you for calling Kelly.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Every single day. I see, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: at one point he just stops talking at all, and
Speaker 1: then she just finds herself married to the puppets.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hi, Hey something man, I was just on
Speaker 4: your stream.
Speaker 1: What's uh? What's your name? Boss?
Speaker 4: My name is Nathan.
Speaker 1: Your name is Mason, Nathan Nathan. Oh, it says you'r Mason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think got it a little missed up.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I mean, it sounds like it's Nathan. I
Speaker 1: mean no, it sounds like it could be Mason. There's
Speaker 1: a thun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a friend named Mason. I'm actually I'm
Speaker 4: eating right now, and I got a potato almost stuck
Speaker 4: in my throat. I almost choked.
Speaker 1: Really, what were you thinking while you were while you
Speaker 1: were almost choking and dying?
Speaker 4: Get some water, because that's what I have right now
Speaker 4: in my position.
Speaker 1: So, Mason, Mason, I'm gonna just I'm gonna kind of
Speaker 1: alternate between Mason and Nathan because I don't remember names
Speaker 1: and I don't care anymore, because I just I can't
Speaker 1: do it. I've tried. I just Mason and Nathan are
Speaker 1: the same name essentially. But I am talking to you
Speaker 1: right now. I'm on the phone with you, and me
Speaker 1: knowing your name is not that important, and I don't
Speaker 1: care if that sounded me. That's it's because it's true.
Speaker 4: I don't know that. That's why I love you, Lyle.
Speaker 4: I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Mason, tell me why you called in today, if there
Speaker 1: was a reason.
Speaker 2: Even so.
Speaker 4: My kind of like soul basis so I kind of
Speaker 4: just I just wanted to talk to you, basically. But
Speaker 4: what I really wanted to, like say, was time. That's
Speaker 4: why I told the greener. I was talking about time
Speaker 4: and the concept of time and how we're tracked in
Speaker 4: this reality of time is inevitable, right, But what if
Speaker 4: time didn't exist, Everything's still went the same, but time
Speaker 4: was irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Mace, Are you high right now? Mm hmm, I'm not okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about time. What if time didn't exist?
Speaker 1: What time is it for you? Right now? Where you live?
Speaker 1: It's nine five, nine forty five. Tell me, Mason, what
Speaker 1: does nine forty five even mean?
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly? You're proving my point, right.
Speaker 1: I'm proving your point right. What is nine forty five
Speaker 1: even more? Tell me? Tell me what what does nine
Speaker 1: forty five mean to you? Mason? I want to know.
Speaker 4: So what it means to me? So time time is
Speaker 4: inevitably restricted, right, So nine forty five to me means,
Speaker 4: you know it's that late, right, like, oh, it's this time.
Speaker 4: It's pretty late. You know, it's nine forty five, not
Speaker 4: that late, but it's kind of getting there. But like
Speaker 4: what I was saying, what if that didn't even matter?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So you're you're you're trying to live in
Speaker 1: a world where the time does not matter. Where nine five?
Speaker 1: I mean, let's see nine forty five. It's nighttime. What
Speaker 1: are things that people don't typically do in the nighttime?
Speaker 1: They typically don't eat pancakes, and you could go downstairs
Speaker 1: make yourself some in a rebellion against the clock. But
Speaker 1: what else don't people do at night? They don't what
Speaker 1: to give me some stuff? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What? What are some things that you would do right now?
Speaker 1: At certain times you wouldn't do it other times?
Speaker 4: Get ready, like get really dressed up, you know you,
Speaker 4: I mean only if you're going to a party, but
Speaker 4: like at a casual, you know, Friday night, and then
Speaker 4: you're just gonna go to the store. You know, on
Speaker 4: a Friday night, you don't get you don't get dressed
Speaker 4: to go to the store.
Speaker 1: Right No, No, if you really wanted to, you could
Speaker 1: right now get dressed up in a suit and go
Speaker 1: to this store. Mason, I have another question for you.
Speaker 1: It says here that you claim you've been getting bullied
Speaker 1: a lot and you don't know what to do.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into this.
Speaker 1: What tell tell me? Tell me about this because we
Speaker 1: could argue about time forever, but I you know here
Speaker 1: I could talk about time with anyone, but I can
Speaker 1: only talk about your life experience with you. So what's
Speaker 1: what's what's going on?
Speaker 4: So? I mean, there's just these little hooligans, you know,
Speaker 4: a little messing with me. And what I told the
Speaker 4: screener is, you know, I don't I don't really care.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't really care that they're gonna mess
Speaker 4: with me. I don't know how to deal with all that, right,
Speaker 4: you know, it's easy, but it's to the point where
Speaker 4: it's annoying.
Speaker 1: What are these people doing to you? Exactly?
Speaker 4: So, like I told him already, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: back off when alone. I don't like you, like I
Speaker 4: really don't like you. I don't care if you'll beat
Speaker 4: me up.
Speaker 1: Well, Mason, tell me what what are what types of
Speaker 1: things specifically are they doing to you?
Speaker 4: So they're like, I feel like calling me all these
Speaker 4: names they always say, uh so it's kind of a
Speaker 4: bit of a little bit racist because I'm Mexican, right
Speaker 4: they always say, and I'm half an American but they
Speaker 4: don't know that. But they always been calling me like beanner,
Speaker 4: you know, all this racial mumbo jumble or whatever it's
Speaker 4: And it's like and it's not to the point where
Speaker 4: it's just names. It's like physical sometimes you know, push me,
Speaker 4: knock me on the head, you know, I guess annoying
Speaker 4: mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: What have you been doing lately in response to all
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 4: So, like I said, I don't really have I mean,
Speaker 4: I have a solution, but it's not the right solution.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what you have as the solution that
Speaker 1: you believe is not the right solution.
Speaker 4: I think because you don't like I think I would
Speaker 4: want to fight them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you're you're considering physically fighting them back.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I know that's a wrong option. But you know,
Speaker 4: if they're pushing me, playing a hands on me, or whatever,
Speaker 4: I can to have a reason to.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. You know, this is tough. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of, you know, trying to think of what I
Speaker 1: would say if you were my son, Mason. Mhm uh.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I believe that cosmically right, Mason. You
Speaker 1: live your life trying to do the best that you can,
Speaker 1: trying to be nice to people. I know that you
Speaker 1: don't deserve any of the things that people are saying
Speaker 1: to you or doing to you physically, and I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope that you are taking solace in that that
Speaker 1: you know that the most important thing is that you
Speaker 1: are living in a way that is in line with
Speaker 1: how you feel you shouldn't know who are you? Who
Speaker 1: you're talking to? Is that your real dad? Yes, let's
Speaker 1: ye up to.
Speaker 4: He just told me a digg a shower.
Speaker 1: Have you talked to him about this? Uh?
Speaker 9: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What say?
Speaker 4: He just said? Don't don't listen to him?
Speaker 1: I think that's smart. I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: you should fight these guys, you know, because I I
Speaker 1: this is some weird hippie bullshit, But I do believe
Speaker 1: it it takes more strength to not fight than to fight, right,
Speaker 1: because that's you. It's you overpowering your urges to do
Speaker 1: what you believe is correct. And you said it yourself
Speaker 1: that you know that that's not the right answer for you,
Speaker 1: and so I think when you're evaluating yourself again, that
Speaker 1: that it that it takes more strength not to fight,
Speaker 1: too and for you to control your emotions in such
Speaker 1: a way that allows you to act how you believe
Speaker 1: is the right way to. And I hope that's what
Speaker 1: you do, yees, Because again, Cosm, I don't believe that
Speaker 1: there's any kind of a charmatic spirit that necessarily enforces this,
Speaker 1: but I do think that you know, the people who
Speaker 1: are bullying you will eventually grow up and recognize the
Speaker 1: error of their ways and repent in however way they do,
Speaker 1: and that things will work out for you as well,
Speaker 1: And that only really can trouble come from you giving
Speaker 1: into them, because that's the real thing, right If these
Speaker 1: if these people, you know, these people can call you names,
Speaker 1: they can push you around, whatever, But as long as
Speaker 1: you are not allowing yourself to be emotionally rattled or
Speaker 1: have your actions dictated by what they're telling you, then
Speaker 1: they don't have power over you. It's when you compromise
Speaker 1: your values by fighting back against them is when they
Speaker 1: have won because they got to. But it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like they did. And I'm glad to hear that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 4: What's your what's your favorite bands? Do you have any
Speaker 4: favorite bands?
Speaker 1: Oh? Band like music bands?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't really listen to music. Oh cool, Nathan,
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Listen to listen to Lyol on Spotify and important. Exactly. Man,
Speaker 4: he's the most beautiful man in existence. He deserves to
Speaker 4: be a praise. Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for calling Nathan. Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was an interesting one. I'm always you know, I'm always
Speaker 1: open to being wrong about that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 1: know that some people have the different opinions or or
Speaker 1: you know, have different experiences with dealing with being antagonized.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I'm necessarily right. It's just my
Speaker 1: own personal philosophy about it. Who knows other people might
Speaker 1: be like, no, you have to fight. There's a song.
Speaker 1: Fuck who sings that song? Kenny Rogers? Kenny Rogers. Kenny
Speaker 1: Rogers has this song called Coward of the County, and
Speaker 1: the thesis of it is the exact opposite of what
Speaker 1: I just said. So if you listened to what I
Speaker 1: just said and you agreed with it, go listen to
Speaker 1: Kenyan Rodgers Coward of the Country, No, Coward of the County,
Speaker 1: and then because he gives an alternative point of view,
Speaker 1: and then come back and then make up your mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with the message, but
Speaker 1: it's a good song. Shout out to Kenny Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Ken goes on the line taking your phone calls every night,
Speaker 5: the beak goes to his hide.
Speaker 1: He's teaching you cloud in the mind.
Speaker 7: Of your life.
Speaker 1: But he's not really an expert