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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Lyle. Just a reminder that I am

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Speaker 1: city in the episode description. Okay, let's get into the podcast. Hello. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's your name?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: It says here you're anonymous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can call me Snoopy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. Why Snoopy? What is there a?

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Speaker 1: It's like something behind that.

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Speaker 3: It's my dog's name.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Snoopy, what's going on with you?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've been on probation for about eight years

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Speaker 2: now and I'm about to get off in one week.

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Speaker 1: You've been on probation for eight years? You said.

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Speaker 3: Eight years?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is probation?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are the ground rules of probation?

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Speaker 3: Well, I live in a.

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Speaker 2: Small town, so it's like, well, first of all, ground

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Speaker 2: rules is no doing pot, no smoking wheat at all,

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Speaker 3: You gotta go to a meeting.

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Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you mentioned you live in a small town.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like a couple of different times, people

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Speaker 2: have like reported me from my probation officer just for

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Speaker 2: like you know, going to the bar hanging with people.

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Speaker 3: Which is obviously breaking rules.

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Speaker 1: But you know, interesting around the town have reported you

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Speaker 1: to your probation officer for breaking the rules. Yes, why

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Speaker 1: do you think they do all the town? What do

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Speaker 1: you believe is in it for them to report you?

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Speaker 3: Good question, but it's happened multiple times. You know. It's

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Speaker 3: like people out trying to ruin lives.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, So can I ask why you were on probation?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like eight years ago, I got caught selling just

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Speaker 5: good drugs I would say ecstasy and acid and mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: And so the cops bus in my house and I

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Speaker 2: had like ten pounds a weeed, like forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: And and then I got put on probation.

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Speaker 2: I went into jail for about seven months, and then

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Speaker 2: and then I got onto ankle water.

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Speaker 3: Which was a breeze everyone should do it.

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Speaker 2: And then and then served the time on probation. And

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Speaker 2: then I had another charge, well, still on probation, of

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Speaker 2: ordering drugs off the dark web, but this time I

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Speaker 2: thought that they were legal drugs.

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Speaker 1: You thought that you were ordering legal drugs off of

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Speaker 1: the dark way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the hand of God right now.

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Speaker 2: I thought that what I was ordering was legal because

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Speaker 2: it was like a research chemical.

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Speaker 1: But snoopy, If it was legal, why would they be

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Speaker 1: selling it on the dark web?

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Speaker 3: Well it was. It was on the gray web.

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Speaker 2: So I basically like emailed a guy from China and he.

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Speaker 3: Sent me something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid for it was a bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and you were caught. And then how did

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Speaker 1: that manifest in more charges that just extend your career?

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Speaker 6: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, another two years which I served on ankle

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Speaker 2: monitor and then extended out my probation even longer. But

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Speaker 2: in one week I am about to get off. I

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Speaker 2: have just intense anxiety, you know. It's more of like

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Speaker 3: Collapse on me.

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Speaker 1: So you were on the ankle monitor for two years? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what were you? And and with the ankle monitor, were

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I had four hours a week of.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, uh, you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, what kinds of things would you do to

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Speaker 3: Just Xbox.

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Speaker 2: Destiny computer games, throw the ball in.

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Speaker 3: The yard for my dogs.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me more about this anxiety and impending

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Speaker 1: being over. I would, I would. I would think that

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious, why are you feeling it?

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Speaker 2: I just maybe that's the anxiety causing it, Is that

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking that something bad is going to happen,

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Speaker 2: then suddenly you know, you don't have probation officers that

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Speaker 2: out to the bar and get a drink. I can

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Speaker 2: go to the dispensary and buy weed. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: just a big difference in my life.

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Speaker 1: So where is the anxiety coming from? What you said?

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Speaker 1: You said that you're afraid of what bad things could happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any examples of specific bad things that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually it's uh, my wife she smokes weed and

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Speaker 3: Trouble just by proxy. I believe.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's alcohol in the house, there's weed in

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Speaker 2: the house. I'm not doing it, but he is. But

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Speaker 2: then here I will be doing it, you know. So

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Speaker 2: it's like I'm in this tough position where it's like

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Speaker 2: I can't really.

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Speaker 1: So wait a minute, So so is your So I

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Speaker 1: mean what you just described is an anxiety over potentially

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Speaker 1: being caught while still on probation. Is that what you're

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Speaker 1: Are you anxious in this time period right now? Or

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to proverb about, like you know, what is

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Speaker 1: it that you're anxious about that you think might happen

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Speaker 2: More it's just the fear of unknown, i'd say. I mean,

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Speaker 2: since I've been on probation and I've gotten married, We've

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Speaker 2: gotten multiple animals together, you know, life is good. But

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Speaker 2: it's just kind of, yeah, just something.

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Speaker 1: I haven't experienced for a very long time, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, so.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one, you know, and I'm almost thirty.

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Speaker 1: So is it more so, let me take a stab

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Speaker 1: You're used to it. It sounds like it's you know,

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Speaker 1: for you from what I've you know, gathered from the

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Speaker 1: is giving you anxiety. Yes, definitely, Okay. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: probation that you are now to do.

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Speaker 3: There was a vacation, you know.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't leave town for a very long time, but

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Speaker 2: I just did that. I just got married and went

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Speaker 3: That was a possibility.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't smoke, I couldn't drink on my.

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Speaker 6: But still it was a vacation, you know, man, I

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Speaker 1: I think it. First. I was struggling to understand where

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Speaker 1: it now. I'm thinking back to the pandemic, where all

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Speaker 1: want to live life. But for once, the smaller your

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Speaker 1: was a weirdly comfortable thing to it that I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of keying into. With your situation, and well, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, Well, let me ask you this. You're saying change?

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Speaker 1: Why why if you have everything you need at home,

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I do like smoking weed.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't say, Well, a lot of people, but you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean okay, Well, so I mean listen, if

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about your anxiety over your world

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Speaker 1: opening up? Yeah, are you anxious about is it? Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, is there any part of you that's

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Speaker 1: anxious about any negative? So you haven't smoked weed in

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Speaker 1: eight years? Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Well, through a loophole in.

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Speaker 2: My probation, I tried to get a medical card, and

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Speaker 2: so this last Christmas I was allowed to smoke for

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Speaker 2: had one week of smoking weed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to assume that over these past eight

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Speaker 1: you know, however legally or not smoked weed. Or gotten drunk.

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Speaker 1: But in the past eight years it more or less

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Speaker 1: So a constant thing. And so is there is any

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Speaker 1: part of you wanted to do Is any part of

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Speaker 1: you anxious about any negative effects that reintroducing a consistent

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Speaker 1: stream of weed, smoking and alcohol drinking back into your

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Speaker 1: life might have.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would hope I wouldn't have a constant shame

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Speaker 2: of alcohol.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think alcohol is the best for you,

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Speaker 3: okay or me? Yeah, But.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's just anxiety in general.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what what if I go back

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Speaker 2: to jail? What if I get back on probation for

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Speaker 2: some something stupid?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any plans or let's not even

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Speaker 1: talk about plans, but desires, thoughts, intrusive thoughts, temptations to

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Speaker 1: do anything that might land you back in the situation

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Speaker 1: like that. No, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: Intrusive thoughts maybe maybe in true.

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Speaker 1: Oh we all got those.

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Speaker 8: I didn't think I was gonna get on here.

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Speaker 8: I ask what time I'm getting emotional?

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Speaker 8: to five, you know, anyone can. But it's not it's

446
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 8: not like what I'm drawn too. I really, I really

447
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 8: it's I feel like it sounds so stupid, but I

448
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 8: always wanted to be a mom, so like that's kind of.

449
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

450
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 8: I feel like everything else was like as as long

451
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 8: as I was able to like provide or like give

452
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 8: a good life, like that's what I wanted. But I

453
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 8: don't know. No, I don't know any I don't know

454
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 8: any like concrete things that I would like to accomplish.

455
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Really, if what you're saying is is true, it sounds

456
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: like you're doing the thing that you want to do. Yeah,

457
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, I understand why there's a lot of fear

458
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: that having a kid can be limiting. But also, I mean,

459
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: you're very young, and I feel like anything that you

460
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: would want to do, there's a lot of time for

461
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: you to do it, and you're doing a thing that

462
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: you've always wanted to do. So you know, you're sitting

463
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: here and you can't think of anything concrete aside from

464
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: being a mom that you want to do and you're

465
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: doing the thing that you want to do, and I,

466
00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's that's great. And I think

467
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: there's lots of people out there who have kids that

468
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: later in life, maybe five years from now, when you're

469
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: thirty and the kid is five, you are like, oh,

470
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I want to fucking paint stuff, and you find a

471
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: way to finagle that into your life or any other

472
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: things that you would want to do, you know. I

473
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: I I feel like this idea of limitations that you're

474
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: setting doesn't have a concrete basis, and so I wouldn't

475
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be so afraid of it.

476
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 7: Okay, I get that.

477
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean you could tell you could tell me if

478
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you if you don't agree, or if you think otherwise,

479
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: or if you have any other no of this, you know.

480
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 8: I guess I just feel like, you know, obviously, it

481
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 8: depends on like how the future goes with like you know,

482
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 8: my relationship or the structure of it, or however we

483
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 8: work that out. But like, hm, I don't, I don't know.

484
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 8: I guess people, I guess I'm worried about people judging

485
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 8: too for like people kind of judge or like, my

486
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 8: family will support me and everything, but it's also like

487
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 8: I think they'll think that stuff too. M h.

488
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Speaker 4: H.

489
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Speaker 1: I I hope that you understand, at least from where

490
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, from where I from where I see it,

491
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: from what you've told me, you're making a decision in

492
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: the direction of what you want out of life. Yeah,

493
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And I hope that you understand that, and I hope

494
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: that you feel confident in that, and I hope that

495
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: your confidence in that supersedes any of your friends or

496
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: family's judgments on your decisions, because I really feel like

497
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: it should.

498
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 7: Thank you are.

499
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 8: How do you know, you know, but here you are.

500
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 8: I feel good. I just I I've felt excited, you

501
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 8: know the whole time.

502
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: I just.

503
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 8: Been on the fence, like you know, should I have time,

504
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 8: like I have time to make a decision, you know,

505
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 8: or like to think about my options. So I guess

506
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: I was just kind of doing that. But I I know,

507
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 8: like what you're saying, it is right if that's kind

508
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 8: of what I have wanted, and you know I'm able.

509
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: To to do that in the right situation. M Oh yeah,

510
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 7: that's basically it.

511
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Brianna. Is there anything else that you you want to say,

512
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: or any aspect of this that that you feel like

513
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: we didn't cover that you want to talk about before

514
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: we go.

515
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 8: No. I also, okay, somebody's probably I have a question.

516
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 8: Somebody's probably asked this before.

517
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: Sure, stupid.

518
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 8: How how often do you wash the GAT suit?

519
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: I have probably bought more. This is embarrassing to say,

520
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: but I have bought more GaX suits than I have

521
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: washed GAK suits. That is a testament to my laziness.

522
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 8: So do you have like different ones? You just toss

523
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 8: them out when you're done.

524
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Some of the they get like tattered and destroyed and lost.

525
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one, that one. Everyone was worried about your

526
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 8: jewels coming out on that one.

527
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Keep your like, oh yeah there's a big Yeah, there's

528
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: a big fucking hole in my pants right now. So

529
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: this one will probably be thrown together to the to

530
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: the to the to the wolves. You know, I don't

531
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: think I don't I don't think I could sell this

532
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: suit in good conscious. Uh maybe, man, maybe I'll do

533
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: like a fucking charity thing or something like that.

534
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 8: But yes, at one of your life.

535
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: That could be oh man, like, actually could be a

536
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: good idea to do it at a live Okay, I'll

537
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: think about that helped me out here, Brianna. I appreciate this, Brianna.

538
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I know that you came

539
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: and you you and this is honestly, like been my

540
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: favorite part of doing this ship is. I know that

541
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: you came into this like feeling nervous and unsure if

542
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: you wanted to share anything. And uh, I just want

543
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: to say, I really appreciate you sharing all that stuff.

544
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: I know it was a tough thing. I'm proud of

545
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: you for making decisions in life that are difficult but

546
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: that you know are the right ones to make for

547
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: you and your happiness and what you want to do.

548
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I hope that you don't feel limited. I hope that

549
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: you feel quite the opposite as you should, feel empowered,

550
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: feel infinite to do whatever it is you want. And

551
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: I I wish you good luck in the future.

552
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 7: Man, Thank you so much.

553
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: So have a good night you as well, Brianna. Ye

554
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: oh you know what, Okay, I'm gonna come out with this.

555
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out with this. I I contradicted myself

556
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: in that phone call. I really did. I contradicted myself

557
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: because I've said and and and Actually I liked that.

558
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: I liked that phone call because it kind of made

559
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: me have to face something that I've said a lot.

560
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: I have said a lot on this podcast that the

561
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: the only irreversible things you could do to change your

562
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: life is have is get arrested, or have a kid.

563
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: And I had to face that one now because I

564
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: was telling her that she should feel as though life

565
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: is infinite and not super limited, and and what going

566
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: into that conversation, and I was really thinking about it

567
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: the whole time I was thinking. I was thinking about

568
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: like I was thinking about my parents and you know,

569
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: the lives that they live, thinking about other people I've

570
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: talked to on this podcast that our parents people you

571
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: know I've seen in media people. I know that our

572
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: parents and they do stuff, they really do. I feel

573
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: like I kind of ate my words at that conversation

574
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about and they do do stuff,

575
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: they do fine time in their lives to do things

576
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: that they want to do. And especially Brionna, because Briann

577
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: I was so young that like her life could could

578
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: run a billion different ways. She could have the kid

579
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: and then be like, you know what I actually wants

580
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: to be fucking I'm trying to think of anything here.

581
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: I used painting is an example. I want to start

582
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: a podcast about the Sopranos. And I bet she could

583
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: find some time after she puts the kid to bed

584
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: to record her Sopranos episodes and do her thing, just any,

585
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: just anything, really, And I really do believe that. I

586
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: do believe that there's enough room in a life to

587
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: accomplish many things. And it sounded to me like the

588
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: forefront thing in her mind that she wanted to accomplish

589
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: was to be a mother, and so I'm really glad

590
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: that she's going after that accomplishment. And then you know,

591
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: on top of that, there is another thing I talk

592
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: about in the podcast all the time, is she had

593
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: this general idea of what she wanted to do, which

594
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: was to help people. Fantastic, beautiful, amazing, start with the kid, helpless,

595
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: shit out of the kid, and then eventually the kid

596
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: will will will will slowly over over the years, because

597
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: as much as we think life is short, life is

598
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: pretty long. Become self sufficient and give her some time

599
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: to help other people in whatever way she wants to.

600
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: If she wants to get involved in volunteer work, if

601
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: she wants to start some business, if she wants to

602
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: give a guy on a street five dollars. Whatever her

603
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: fucking way is of helping people. I think she'll be

604
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: able to do that, and I think that she'll be

605
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: able to live a nice and happy life. And I'm

606
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: excited for her, and I hope that she internalizes all

607
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: that and really feels it, because I do believe it beautiful.

608
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: Next call, Hello, Hello, is this Christian?

609
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 6: Yeah? It's way, am I You're at.

610
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: You said that just now? Like, did I annoy you?

611
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: I have? Did I apologize if I did? You seemed

612
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: you seemed a little bit annoyed. It's okay, I'm not

613
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: coming at you. I just want to know how you're feeling. Hello, Hey,

614
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: can you hear me?

615
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

616
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could hear you? Am I in Yeah? Oh shit? Okay, No, No,

617
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: you didn't annoy me?

618
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I you said hello in like a kind

619
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: of an annoyed way, and I just wanted to make

620
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: sure I'm not offended. If I annoyed you, I can handle.

621
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 6: Hello with a question mark. No, that was like a

622
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: hello with a question mark.

623
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

624
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: What is your name again?

625
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 6: My name is Christian?

626
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Christian? What's going on with you?

627
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 6: Christian, Oh, not not much. Just here, you know, I mean,

628
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 6: I'm pretty I'm kind of stoned.

629
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Okay, how stone is kind of stone? Like on a

630
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: scale from one to ten.

631
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: Oh fuck, i'd say a good solid like twelve.

632
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: You're a that's not kind of stoned, that's extremely.

633
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 6: Kind of sort of.

634
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm gonna just you know, I'm not even I'm

635
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: not gonna trust. I'm not going to trust your first

636
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: hand experience. But judging by your actions and words over

637
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: the course of this phone call, you sound like you're

638
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: at an eight.

639
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 6: At an eight, okay, I mean that's that sounds plausible.

640
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Christian, What's what's up with you? Man? Is there a

641
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: thing that you called in to want to talk about today?

642
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: Oh?

643
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 6: Yes, I actually harass my wife with a turtle puppet,

644
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: like outside in public.

645
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: You harass your wife with a turtle puppet outside in public?

646
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 6: Yes, I pretty much like make like very awkward moaning

647
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: noises to her like here, and it's the funniest thing,

648
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 6: Like her reaction is the most funniest thing.

649
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: Do you bring the turtle puppet around with you everywhere?

650
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

651
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: Like literally everywhere?

652
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: How did you start doing this?

653
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: Basically?

654
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: What happened was we were at Barnes and Noble and

655
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 6: we were in the kids section because she, I mean

656
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: she was pregnant at the time, and I just saw

657
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 6: this turtle puppet. He pretty much looked like he looked

658
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 6: retardedly like cute. Can I say that?

659
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Well you already did, okay.

660
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry, And I just pretty much grabbed it

661
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 6: and just started like making a very awkward noises like

662
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 6: to her ear. And yeah, it was pretty much. It

663
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 6: was pretty funny because like a bunch of kids just

664
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 6: kind of like looked at me while was making like

665
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 6: these noises.

666
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Okay, and so you you were trying out the puppet,

667
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: and then what made you decide to buy it?

668
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 6: Well, oh, dude, like her reaction pretty much, I literally

669
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: spent forty.

670
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Dollars on this puppet.

671
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay. And how long have you been doing this?

672
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 6: Hm, I would say about six months? Six months already.

673
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so you do this, You've been doing it for

674
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: six months? And you say you've been doing it every

675
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: single time you guys go out in public.

676
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 6: Almost every time. Sometimes she like kind of asked me

677
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 6: to leave the puppet in the car, which I kind

678
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 6: of understand.

679
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: You know, are you.

680
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Is your wife at home with you right now? Yes?

681
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: She is?

682
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: Actually, can I talk to her?

683
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 6: Hey?

684
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: Baby, it's Lyle.

685
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 6: He wants to talk to you. Yeah, about the puppet here.

686
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 9: This is not the way I wanted to meet Therapy

687
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 9: got go Hello, Hi, what is your name? I'm CALLI.

688
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm Christian, Callie. It's nice to meet you. So, okay.

689
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: We got a perspective from Christian on this puppet situation,

690
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: and I was kind of wondering what your thoughts are

691
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: on it, because if I were married to him, I

692
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: would have gotten a divorce around at about maybe I

693
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: don't know what your guys like, how long you were

694
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: dating before, but I would have divorced him at about

695
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: a month of the puppet.

696
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 9: The thought cost my mind.

697
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 7: No, I don't.

698
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 9: He's just weird. I don't know. It was just something

699
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 9: that happened and he just kept doing it because people

700
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 9: thought it was funny.

701
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: So does he do other things like this? Or is

702
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: this the first kind of prank that he has pulled

703
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: on you?

704
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 9: I think that's pretty much. This is pretty much the

705
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 9: only prank he's done.

706
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, is does he do other things to annoy you

707
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: or just the puppets?

708
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 9: Well? When you're married. Yeah, but I know, just just

709
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 9: that one thing.

710
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: Really, h What is it about Christian that made you

711
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: want to get married to him? I don't know.

712
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 9: We just like we were hanging out and we just

713
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 9: kind of clicked and never really left each other.

714
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Is is there anything that you've done to enact any

715
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of revenge against Christian for the puppet? Nonsense?

716
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 9: Things are in the works, not really, because I've been

717
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 9: pregnant so I couldn't. Really, I haven't really been able

718
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 9: to do anything, so not yet. But if you have

719
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 9: any ideas, I'm all here.

720
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I would say you could get your own puppet, but

721
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that would work because Christian sounds like

722
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: he like he likes puppets.

723
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, you got me there.

724
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: Now what would now? What would Christian have to do

725
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: to make you leave him?

726
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 9: Honestly, the only thing he could do is probably like

727
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 9: cheat on me, and that would be the end.

728
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: What if he cheated on you but he used the

729
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: puppet and then claims that the puppet was cheating and

730
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: not him.

731
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 9: That's probably grounds for divorce too.

732
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Even if it was the puppets.

733
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 9: Probably that I'm sorry, not not my thing.

734
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Hmm, Well, something tells me that that you're not going

735
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: to have to worry about that.

736
00:47:54,120 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 9: No at all. This is your name again, the Cally Kelly.

737
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: Mm. How did you guys meet?

738
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 9: So it's a long story. So I actually Christian stopped no,

739
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 9: So that happened like a couple months into us being married.

740
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 9: So how so he knew some of the same people

741
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 9: I knew, but we actually never met. We were pretty

742
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 9: much like he was with one girl and I was

743
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 9: actually hanging out with her ex. And then we never

744
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 9: knew each other until two years ago, and then we

745
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 9: were like, what the fuck. I don't know if I

746
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 9: can curse on your podcast, but we were like, what

747
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 9: the hell? Like, we've never like, we were pretty much

748
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 9: in between people and we just never met.

749
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 1: Well, I find it very beautiful because it it takes

750
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: a lot of searching for a puppet guy to find

751
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: a lady who does not mind the puppets, and so

752
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for both of you. Oh, thank you, Kelly.

753
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to say to

754
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before.

755
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 9: We go, No, just thanks for having me, I guess.

756
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Of course it has been very cool and interesting for

757
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: me as well. I still can't get over, and I

758
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: was gonna save this for my post call thoughts. But

759
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: it's not the fact that he occasionally bothers you with

760
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: the puppet. It's a fact that he doesn't occasionally bother

761
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: you with the puppet, that he bothers you with the

762
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: puppet every single day.

763
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 9: And he did it for the entire time I was pregnant.

764
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Are you sure there's not something going on underneath him?

765
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sure.

766
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Okay, you know him better than I do, so I

767
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: trust you. Thank you for calling Kelly.

768
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 9: Thank you.

769
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: Every single day. I see, I wouldn't be surprised if

770
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: at one point he just stops talking at all, and

771
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: then she just finds herself married to the puppets.

772
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hi, Hey something man, I was just on

773
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 4: your stream.

774
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: What's uh? What's your name? Boss?

775
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: My name is Nathan.

776
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: Your name is Mason, Nathan Nathan. Oh, it says you'r Mason.

777
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think got it a little missed up.

778
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's I mean, it sounds like it's Nathan. I

779
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: mean no, it sounds like it could be Mason. There's

780
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: a thun.

781
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a friend named Mason. I'm actually I'm

782
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: eating right now, and I got a potato almost stuck

783
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: in my throat. I almost choked.

784
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Really, what were you thinking while you were while you

785
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: were almost choking and dying?

786
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: Get some water, because that's what I have right now

787
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: in my position.

788
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: So, Mason, Mason, I'm gonna just I'm gonna kind of

789
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: alternate between Mason and Nathan because I don't remember names

790
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: and I don't care anymore, because I just I can't

791
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: do it. I've tried. I just Mason and Nathan are

792
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: the same name essentially. But I am talking to you

793
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: right now. I'm on the phone with you, and me

794
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: knowing your name is not that important, and I don't

795
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: care if that sounded me. That's it's because it's true.

796
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: I don't know that. That's why I love you, Lyle.

797
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: I love you so much.

798
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: Mason, tell me why you called in today, if there

799
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: was a reason.

800
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: Even so.

801
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: My kind of like soul basis so I kind of

802
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: just I just wanted to talk to you, basically. But

803
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: what I really wanted to, like say, was time. That's

804
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: why I told the greener. I was talking about time

805
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: and the concept of time and how we're tracked in

806
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: this reality of time is inevitable, right, But what if

807
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: time didn't exist, Everything's still went the same, but time

808
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 4: was irrelevant.

809
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Mace, Are you high right now? Mm hmm, I'm not okay, okay,

810
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about time. What if time didn't exist?

811
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: What time is it for you? Right now? Where you live?

812
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: It's nine five, nine forty five. Tell me, Mason, what

813
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: does nine forty five even mean?

814
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly? You're proving my point, right.

815
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm proving your point right. What is nine forty five

816
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: even more? Tell me? Tell me what what does nine

817
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: forty five mean to you? Mason? I want to know.

818
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: So what it means to me? So time time is

819
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: inevitably restricted, right, So nine forty five to me means,

820
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: you know it's that late, right, like, oh, it's this time.

821
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: It's pretty late. You know, it's nine forty five, not

822
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: that late, but it's kind of getting there. But like

823
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: what I was saying, what if that didn't even matter?

824
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 8: You know?

825
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So you're you're you're trying to live in

826
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: a world where the time does not matter. Where nine five?

827
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, let's see nine forty five. It's nighttime. What

828
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: are things that people don't typically do in the nighttime?

829
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: They typically don't eat pancakes, and you could go downstairs

830
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: make yourself some in a rebellion against the clock. But

831
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: what else don't people do at night? They don't what

832
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: to give me some stuff? What?

833
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 4: What?

834
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: What? What are some things that you would do right now?

835
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: At certain times you wouldn't do it other times?

836
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: Get ready, like get really dressed up, you know you,

837
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: I mean only if you're going to a party, but

838
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: like at a casual, you know, Friday night, and then

839
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: you're just gonna go to the store. You know, on

840
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 4: a Friday night, you don't get you don't get dressed

841
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: to go to the store.

842
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: Right No, No, if you really wanted to, you could

843
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: right now get dressed up in a suit and go

844
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: to this store. Mason, I have another question for you.

845
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: It says here that you claim you've been getting bullied

846
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot and you don't know what to do.

847
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into this.

848
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: What tell tell me? Tell me about this because we

849
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: could argue about time forever, but I you know here

850
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: I could talk about time with anyone, but I can

851
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: only talk about your life experience with you. So what's

852
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: what's what's going on?

853
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: So? I mean, there's just these little hooligans, you know,

854
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: a little messing with me. And what I told the

855
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: screener is, you know, I don't I don't really care.

856
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 4: You know, I don't really care that they're gonna mess

857
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 4: with me. I don't know how to deal with all that, right,

858
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, it's easy, but it's to the point where

859
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: it's annoying.

860
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: What are these people doing to you? Exactly?

861
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: So, like I told him already, you know, it's like

862
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: back off when alone. I don't like you, like I

863
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: really don't like you. I don't care if you'll beat

864
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: me up.

865
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Well, Mason, tell me what what are what types of

866
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: things specifically are they doing to you?

867
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: So they're like, I feel like calling me all these

868
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: names they always say, uh so it's kind of a

869
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: bit of a little bit racist because I'm Mexican, right

870
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: they always say, and I'm half an American but they

871
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: don't know that. But they always been calling me like beanner,

872
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: you know, all this racial mumbo jumble or whatever it's

873
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: And it's like and it's not to the point where

874
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: it's just names. It's like physical sometimes you know, push me,

875
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: knock me on the head, you know, I guess annoying

876
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: mm hmmm.

877
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: What have you been doing lately in response to all

878
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: of this?

879
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: So, like I said, I don't really have I mean,

880
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: I have a solution, but it's not the right solution.

881
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what you have as the solution that

882
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: you believe is not the right solution.

883
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: I think because you don't like I think I would

884
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: want to fight them.

885
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you're you're considering physically fighting them back.

886
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: Yes, but I know that's a wrong option. But you know,

887
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: if they're pushing me, playing a hands on me, or whatever,

888
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: I can to have a reason to.

889
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. You know, this is tough. I'm trying to

890
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: think of, you know, trying to think of what I

891
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: would say if you were my son, Mason. Mhm uh.

892
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, look, I believe that cosmically right, Mason. You

893
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: live your life trying to do the best that you can,

894
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: trying to be nice to people. I know that you

895
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: don't deserve any of the things that people are saying

896
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: to you or doing to you physically, and I hope,

897
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: I hope that you are taking solace in that that

898
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: you know that the most important thing is that you

899
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: are living in a way that is in line with

900
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: how you feel you shouldn't know who are you? Who

901
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: you're talking to? Is that your real dad? Yes, let's

902
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: ye up to.

903
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: He just told me a digg a shower.

904
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Have you talked to him about this? Uh?

905
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 9: I do?

906
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? What say?

907
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: He just said? Don't don't listen to him?

908
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: I think that's smart. I don't think. I don't think

909
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: you should fight these guys, you know, because I I

910
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: this is some weird hippie bullshit, But I do believe

911
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: it it takes more strength to not fight than to fight, right,

912
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: because that's you. It's you overpowering your urges to do

913
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: what you believe is correct. And you said it yourself

914
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: that you know that that's not the right answer for you,

915
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: and so I think when you're evaluating yourself again, that

916
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: that it that it takes more strength not to fight,

917
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: too and for you to control your emotions in such

918
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: a way that allows you to act how you believe

919
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: is the right way to. And I hope that's what

920
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: you do, yees, Because again, Cosm, I don't believe that

921
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: there's any kind of a charmatic spirit that necessarily enforces this,

922
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: but I do think that you know, the people who

923
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: are bullying you will eventually grow up and recognize the

924
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: error of their ways and repent in however way they do,

925
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: and that things will work out for you as well,

926
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: And that only really can trouble come from you giving

927
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: into them, because that's the real thing, right If these

928
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: if these people, you know, these people can call you names,

929
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: they can push you around, whatever, But as long as

930
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: you are not allowing yourself to be emotionally rattled or

931
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: have your actions dictated by what they're telling you, then

932
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: they don't have power over you. It's when you compromise

933
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: your values by fighting back against them is when they

934
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: have won because they got to. But it doesn't sound

935
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: like they did. And I'm glad to hear that. Yeah,

936
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: what's up?

937
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: What's your what's your favorite bands? Do you have any

938
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: favorite bands?

939
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: Oh? Band like music bands?

940
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 4: Yes?

941
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't really listen to music. Oh cool, Nathan,

942
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

943
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

944
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: Listen to listen to Lyol on Spotify and important. Exactly. Man,

945
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: he's the most beautiful man in existence. He deserves to

946
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: be a praise. Yeah, and that's it.

947
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for calling Nathan. Yeah, that was that

948
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: was an interesting one. I'm always you know, I'm always

949
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: open to being wrong about that kind of stuff. I

950
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: know that some people have the different opinions or or

951
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, have different experiences with dealing with being antagonized.

952
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: And I don't think I'm necessarily right. It's just my

953
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: own personal philosophy about it. Who knows other people might

954
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: be like, no, you have to fight. There's a song.

955
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: Fuck who sings that song? Kenny Rogers? Kenny Rogers. Kenny

956
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: Rogers has this song called Coward of the County, and

957
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: the thesis of it is the exact opposite of what

958
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: I just said. So if you listened to what I

959
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: just said and you agreed with it, go listen to

960
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Kenyan Rodgers Coward of the Country, No, Coward of the County,

961
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: and then because he gives an alternative point of view,

962
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: and then come back and then make up your mind.

963
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with the message, but

964
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: it's a good song. Shout out to Kenny Rodgers.

965
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 5: Ken goes on the line taking your phone calls every night,

966
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 5: the beak goes to his hide.

967
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: He's teaching you cloud in the mind.

968
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 7: Of your life.

969
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: But he's not really an expert