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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. Chuck is cracking up? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? Chuck? I just can't believe I said

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Speaker 1: that episode growth. Yeah, we can't repeat what Chuck just said.

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Speaker 1: He's a dirty, dirty boy. They're all gonna wonder. His

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Speaker 1: name is Charles W. Bryant. My name is Joshua M. Clark.

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Speaker 1: I go by Josh. He goes by Chuck or compass

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Speaker 1: head and chuckers Um, and this is stuff you should know.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning into our podcast. Are you on uppers? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I did a bunch of amial nitrate. Man, everything is weird.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, Thanks so, Chuck Um. Times are tough

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Speaker 1: right now. Indeed, as you know, they're particularly tough for me.

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Speaker 1: trouble too, but they take quite a bite. Well imagine

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Speaker 1: so so it's a little rough right now. One of

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Speaker 1: I hope you don't have anything really wrong with you.

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Speaker 1: but that's funk. Okay, So that was that. That was Patrick.

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